France did a LOT for us in our time of need. Looking at the enormous financial burden of supporting the American rebels, you begin to see what this war meant to France. They went into a huge amount of debt to secure our independence, and for years France was America's only friend (complex politics here though) . "An estimated 90% of materiel for the 1777 Saratoga campaign was supplied directly by France." American rebels learned French military tactics and training regimens courtesy of French military advisors and volunteers. At this time, France had arguably the finest army in Western Europe. We surely would have been crushed without the support of the French, and their naval support during the war was crucial in forcing the Brits to sue for peace. They gave the Royal Navy hell, and their actions allowed many land campaigns to be supplied! Thank you, France
Well, I'm sure a rivalry between France and England had a bit to do with it as well as their own interests in the new world. After all we did give them a substantial sum for the undeveloped territories west of the colonies that the French had spent some time extracting some resources from.
@@darioinfini that’s what allies does! Helping in common interest. You can try to downplay what france have done to help you in those time just read about Lafrayette you will just feel stupid and useless.
Thank you very much for such an objective (and pleasant for a french people!) comment, but it may not be forgotten that it's always a pleasure to upset England's interests.....as the reverse is also true!!!😉😅
Yup. And furthermore Master and Commander soundtrack (Boccherini's Musica Notturna Delle Strade Di Madrid) was composed in 1780, when the original version of that ship sailed from France to the US).
@@Maxu2027 “Moron”? Let’s keep it civil here. The fact that the original operated without this modern technological safety-net makes it all the more impressive. It’s one thing to join the crew of a modern replica ship (which I do, as a hobby) knowing that if you screw-up, you can radio for rescue, but imagine doing it knowing that you must depend on your own ability as a sailor, and the abilities and dedication of the rest of the crew, because no one will come to your rescue when things go kablooey. In my experiences on replica vessels I’ve seen many cock-ups due to people ignoring orders, or getting “creative” or whatever. I cringe at the thought of dealing with this in a historical context. I digress, but my point is, the modern safety equipment is there precisely because of bitter experience.
In this video: th-cam.com/video/IU2gnV1VgLc/w-d-xo.html , you can see the same kids being interviewed by Channel 11 at the end of my video. Also, the Channel 11 Video shows me filming this video. I guess everyone had their cameras pointed at each other.
Fred Blonder good evening to you all i'm french i was they in 1999 when they started the construction of the ship in ROCHEFORT ,the construction it was on 17 years.
I’m probably the wrong person to ask, but based on my knowledge of history and sailing ships I’d say a couple weeks in a fast ship with the wind and current in your favor. Absent these it could take arbitrarily long or even forever. Many ships set sail and were never heard from again.
@@fredblonder7850 so it probably includes route right? And they won't do it straight due to the fact the wind tend to change direction every few hours and during sail ship era the weather tends to be unpredictable
How is she moving ? :) Stupid question i know. But sails are down and she is going fast. And what did they do in open water when wind is blowing in oposite direction how do they sail north for example if wind is blowing south :)
Engines. International law is pretty rigorous regarding safety, and one of the requirements is that historic replica ships must have engines. So if they have engines, and they must adhere to a schedule for public appearances, they cheat and use their engines. Yes, that’s not historically authentic. If you read historical accounts of sailing voyages or the Viking Sagas, they spend an awful lot of time milling about waiting for a favorable wind. There are few replica ships that do not have engines, and those are legally restricted as to who they may carry and what they may do.
Is she rated as a Frigate? I believe the French Navy used the name Cruiser to describe ships of the class knoiwn as a Frigate in British and American navies. Is the America sailing ship sailing under full sail in the harbor a Sloop of War? I was just an Army puke but is it safe to be under full sale in harbor like that?
Baltimore clippers were used in merchant shipping, and while not intended for warfare, most carried a few small cannon as defensive armament against pirates.
she is authentic, you wouldn't want a ship like they had before, neither the people who invented it. They just couldn't have things like we have now. Or should they have scurvy, rats and all kinds of other things to be authentic? I bet you that if those people who invented it were alive now, they would be even more modern with that ship.
I allow myself to post here the link of the video which touched me the most and which sums up well the beginning of this adventure ► th-cam.com/video/YyBROqeqM6w/w-d-xo.html
MdR. Très bien trouvé, mais en fait, c'est "objectif La Fayit" depuis le pompidou jusqu'à maintenant avec le micron et très probablement le prochain qui risque fort d'être encore le même. Le hollande n'est qu'un des responsables de la décadence de la France.
En tant que bateau enregistré, il arbore le pavillon de son pays d'enregistrement. Le royaume de Frabce n'existe plus depuis 1848. Le pavillon de marine historique serait un blanc uni. Il y a deja assez de blagues infondées sur les français lâches au combat pour ne pas en rajouter non ?
Leebpascal1 Je ne savais pas que les Français avait cette réputation, les Anglais sans doute, ils gardent un très mauvais souvenir des vaisseaux au drapeau blanc...
@@francinesicard464 La ripoublique maçonnique mafieuse est finie, elle vient de nous montrer avec le passe de la honte son vrai visage celui d’une dictature sanguinaire qui veut la destruction de la France et du peuple Français ! Mais la roue tourne, l’idée du rétablissement de la Monarchie de Droit Divin en France est une idée d’avenir elle fait son chemin, c’est ce qui sauvera la France de l’autre dictature, l’UE !
![BABYMONSTER - 'DRIP' M/V REACTION [WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS!!!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t0Lpgr1jo3Y/mqdefault.jpg)
No kidding, in 1781 this would have been like the Starship Enterprise visiting a colony world. The height of those masts!
Fun fact, they used the HMS Victory for a scene in NG
France did a LOT for us in our time of need. Looking at the enormous financial burden of supporting the American rebels, you begin to see what this war meant to France. They went into a huge amount of debt to secure our independence, and for years France was America's only friend (complex politics here though) . "An estimated 90% of materiel for the 1777 Saratoga campaign was supplied directly by France." American rebels learned French military tactics and training regimens courtesy of French military advisors and volunteers. At this time, France had arguably the finest army in Western Europe. We surely would have been crushed without the support of the French, and their naval support during the war was crucial in forcing the Brits to sue for peace. They gave the Royal Navy hell, and their actions allowed many land campaigns to be supplied!
Thank you, France
Well, I'm sure a rivalry between France and England had a bit to do with it as well as their own interests in the new world. After all we did give them a substantial sum for the undeveloped territories west of the colonies that the French had spent some time extracting some resources from.
@@darioinfini that’s what allies does! Helping in common interest. You can try to downplay what france have done to help you in those time just read about Lafrayette you will just feel stupid and useless.
Thank you very much for such an objective (and pleasant for a french people!) comment, but it may not be forgotten that it's always a pleasure to upset England's interests.....as the reverse is also true!!!😉😅
Times are changing, now we're doing French bashing.
Gorgeous vessel. Thanks for posting her arrival.
Oh just seeing those ships makes me happy!
Beatifull, quel navire, ça c'est de la construction française 👍😉
Thank you for this very nice film.
You're welcome. Of all the videos I've put on TH-cam, this has been the most wildly popular.
Back when people appreciated history instead of cancelling it.
magnifique
Fred, nice. Thank you for the Hermione video in Baltimore Inner Harbor by Ft McHenry..
She is a beautiful ship. Does she remember the French ship Acheron in the film " Master and Commander " ?
Yup. And furthermore Master and Commander soundtrack (Boccherini's Musica Notturna Delle Strade Di Madrid) was composed in 1780, when the original version of that ship sailed from France to the US).
Haha!It has an engine!
I still like it.It's beautiful!😊
These days, governments >> require
.... and radios, gps, safety jacket, modern life raft ... otherwise no trip ...m....
@@Maxu2027 “Moron”? Let’s keep it civil here.
The fact that the original operated without this modern technological safety-net makes it all the more impressive. It’s one thing to join the crew of a modern replica ship (which I do, as a hobby) knowing that if you screw-up, you can radio for rescue, but imagine doing it knowing that you must depend on your own ability as a sailor, and the abilities and dedication of the rest of the crew, because no one will come to your rescue when things go kablooey.
In my experiences on replica vessels I’ve seen many cock-ups due to people ignoring orders, or getting “creative” or whatever. I cringe at the thought of dealing with this in a historical context.
I digress, but my point is, the modern safety equipment is there precisely because of bitter experience.
@@Maxu2027 Absolutely!
In this video: th-cam.com/video/IU2gnV1VgLc/w-d-xo.html , you can see the same kids being interviewed by Channel 11 at the end of my video.
Also, the Channel 11 Video shows me filming this video.
I guess everyone had their cameras pointed at each other.
Fred Blonder good evening to you all i'm french i was they in 1999 when they started the construction of the ship in ROCHEFORT ,the construction it was on 17 years.
How long would it take a person to come across from France to the Colonies?
I’m probably the wrong person to ask, but based on my knowledge of history and sailing ships I’d say a couple weeks in a fast ship with the wind and current in your favor. Absent these it could take arbitrarily long or even forever. Many ships set sail and were never heard from again.
@@fredblonder7850 so it probably includes route right? And they won't do it straight due to the fact the wind tend to change direction every few hours and during sail ship era the weather tends to be unpredictable
Beautiful ship
How is she moving ? :) Stupid question i know. But sails are down and she is going fast. And what did they do in open water when wind is blowing in oposite direction how do they sail north for example if wind is blowing south :)
Engines.
International law is pretty rigorous regarding safety, and one of the requirements is that historic replica ships must have engines. So if they have engines, and they must adhere to a schedule for public appearances, they cheat and use their engines. Yes, that’s not historically authentic. If you read historical accounts of sailing voyages or the Viking Sagas, they spend an awful lot of time milling about waiting for a favorable wind.
There are few replica ships that do not have engines, and those are legally restricted as to who they may carry and what they may do.
Thank you. Non the less it's beautiful ship :)
Sailing ships can sail into the wind at an angle, generally about 45°.
Super !
Is she rated as a Frigate? I believe the French Navy used the name Cruiser to describe ships of the class knoiwn as a Frigate
in British and American navies.
Is the America sailing ship sailing under full sail in the harbor a Sloop of War?
I was just an Army puke but is it safe to be under full sale in harbor like that?
There is a frigate class in the french navy. They don't use as designation, cruisers and destroyers.
Yes, she is a Concorde-class frigate. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde_class_frigate.
Yes, it's safe to have been under sail at that time. They were sailing into the wind, and it was a light wind.
The American ship appears to be what is commonly called a "Baltimore Clipper" and is technically rigged as a "topsail schooner".
Baltimore clippers were used in merchant shipping, and while not intended for warfare, most carried a few small cannon as defensive armament against pirates.
Why does that woman has to yell when the cannons are rendering a salute? Childish, stupid!
My ship concept 3D.
Animation 3D d'un navire de 74 canons -partie 1- : th-cam.com/video/pRxh3etXo2w/w-d-xo.html
I assume she has been upgraded to a diesel engine below decks.
Yes, as well as generators. Not completely authentic, but practical.
she is authentic, you wouldn't want a ship like they had before, neither the people who invented it. They just couldn't have things like we have now. Or should they have scurvy, rats and all kinds of other things to be authentic? I bet you that if those people who invented it were alive now, they would be even more modern with that ship.
+ Monk Wales "she is authentic"
You must not know what "authentic" means.
@Susur I think a safety issue aka by law she needed it or would not be allowed as a ship, let alone one doing a transatlantic cruise.
I allow myself to post here the link of the video which touched me the most and which sums up well the beginning of this adventure ► th-cam.com/video/YyBROqeqM6w/w-d-xo.html
Hermione, c'est La Fayette
Hollande, c'est La Fayite lol
ohhhhhhhhhh la faillite !! pas la Fayite !!
MdR. Très bien trouvé, mais en fait, c'est "objectif La Fayit" depuis le pompidou jusqu'à maintenant avec le micron et très probablement le prochain qui risque fort d'être encore le même. Le hollande n'est qu'un des responsables de la décadence de la France.
TETA Toto
C’est le régime républicain qui est responsable de la destruction de la France !
Is that the Schooner Lynx sailing with her?
I have no idea.
That's the "Pride of Baltimore II". Lynx (which does look a bit similar) is based in Nantucket.
that is the pride two and no she was not built in Nantucket she was built in Baltimore
What would have been more cooler is the Hermonie and the USS Construction
Constellation? Constitution?
@@fredblonder7850 f constitution
@@fredblonder7850 constitution probably and by the way it is kinda odd seeing 18th century warship in a 21st century background
Making good time for no sail.
Must be some galley slaves pulling on the oars.
Nah. They were sailing downhill. ;-)
They are volunteers.
Under ENGINE ?
Blaaaaah !
engine = sécurity
It's a Coast Guard requirement.
For such a large ship with a crew of 80 persones, it's mandatory law of the present Navy for security.
Et notre étendard Royal, il est où ???
Le drapeau tricolore des révolutionnaires n’a rien à faire sur l’Hermione!
En tant que bateau enregistré, il arbore le pavillon de son pays d'enregistrement. Le royaume de Frabce n'existe plus depuis 1848.
Le pavillon de marine historique serait un blanc uni. Il y a deja assez de blagues infondées sur les français lâches au combat pour ne pas en rajouter non ?
Leebpascal1
Je ne savais pas que les Français avait cette réputation, les Anglais sans doute, ils gardent un très mauvais souvenir des vaisseaux au drapeau blanc...
@@Leebpascal1 mdr, les lâches au combat sont plutôt les Anglais. Eux sont directement partis de Dunkerque sans combattre.
Si, nous sommes une République, et le navire n'est qu'une réplique. La monarchie, c'est fini!
@@francinesicard464
La ripoublique maçonnique mafieuse est finie, elle vient de nous montrer avec le passe de la honte son vrai visage celui d’une dictature sanguinaire qui veut la destruction de la France et du peuple Français !
Mais la roue tourne, l’idée du rétablissement de la Monarchie de Droit Divin en France est une idée d’avenir elle fait son chemin, c’est ce qui sauvera la France de l’autre dictature, l’UE !