How To Frame A Deck - Tips and Tricks For a Successful Project
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- Learn some tips on how to effectively build a pressure treated deck frame. This should make building your deck a little bit easier! If you have any questions about the build process, please leave a comment!
I recommend laying down woven wire fence like carpet directly on the ground like carpet first. This will prevent groundhogs from building dens under your deck.
How about a Q and A answering pricing questions. You do great work some of the best if not the best I see on youtube. I would love to know if craftsmanship like yours is affordable. Keep up the great work!
We call those spacers “noggins”. Absolutely a must-have to stop the beams twisting.
Dooks in Scotland 😂
No idea why
Like the videos keep it up . A lot to learn
Great advice!
Awesome I've been thinking of doing a small deck and this puts things in a great perspective appreciate it
mad D glad you found it helpful!!
thanks for your opinion, beside i appreciate you shed and coop related things building programs.
Definitely could be charging for this information. Great info dude!
I just want to help spread some knowledge that I've picked up from others, free information for all!
@@THEpremieroutdoor love it man. Keep up the great work!
@@GetItDonewithGunn Thanks man, i appreciate it!!
Great video Bud. So much useful information. Soon we'll all be building $50K decks!!! Following all your tips is why your decks come out awesomely fantastic!! But, don't think this exempts you from not putting out a Camden Ave Project video tonight!! Hope all is well bud.
Hahah I'm waiting for a grand reveal, I'm building suspense!
@@THEpremieroutdoor I'm sure it's gonna be Stupid Dope Fresh!!
Great vid! For the top deck boards, do people use 2 x 6 or 1 x 6 for a small deck that’s low to the ground?
Great content. Are there any attachments to the house? Just curious what you did at the stucco
What footing did you use for this deck?
Thank you for your video. I would like to know if you used Joist Butyl Tape to prevent rot even though you used Madison wood for your decking.
Awesome shed building plans, next time use it
That yellow pine is good wood we have Douglas fir here in the northwest also very good
I have flipped over my ten-year-old pressure-treated boards and am starting again with the non stained side up and now need to know if I should put a 1/8 gap in between all the boards before I screw them down. I've heard that I should do that to allow for movement. The trouble is I don't want to put a space between because those gaps tend to fill up with all of the tree stuff that's surrounding the deck. Is it necessary to put the 1/8 Gap between the boards? Thank you so much for your advice.
Your channel profile pic needs shades 😎 Awesome content mate, you guys are awesome👍🏽
You’re not wrong my friend!! 😎😎😎
For those of us who don't know construction, but want to talk knowledgeably with contractors (to find out who knows his stuff and who's fake), it would have been handy to have these videos numbered somehow so that we could follow them in sequence. Still, thanks for a worthy video.
Good tip!!
In need to see more
Thanks for your personal experience but this woodplaning so good
Hey mate, just wondering why you didn't do a' Scarf Joint' for that "Ledger/Whaling plate/ Ledger board" on the Slab for the Joists to run off? Scarf Joint is a great way to join two pieces of timber of the same thickness that will support a load.
4:05 The worker looks frustrated wanting to tell the host shut the fuck up and let me finish my job lol...
do you use and deck design software ? and where do i find those demotion tables ? whats a good software to use for deck that give you the plans to take in for permits?
I use realtime landscape architect to design the projects but I just draw the permit plans by hand
What type of footings are those? They look different from the usual concrete tube.
Great video!
Question: Are these madison boards sold in Canada? or just the US?
Thats pretty funny looking pressure treated lumber! Never seen any pressure treated lumber 1 not have holes in it from the solution of treatment an 2 not be dark brown or green from the actual pressure treatment. Also i have the tables an in none of my tables does it show a doubled up 2x 12 is a dimensional beam that you can use you gotta triple the 2x material or use a Real 4x or 6x beam
So what do you suggest for building a deck over a 12x10 concrete patio with 10 inch wide 5 inch high concrete step ? The deck I’m building will be 16x16 that have a 2 foot 10 inch overlook. The entire deck will be 1 foot 5 inches off the ground. Someone told me to attach my ledger to the wall and frame around the step. I’m using 2x8 treated lumber. Thanks in advance
I’m having to do something similar with my deck and am planning on having the patio torn out. The patio is in bad shape and it will make it much easier to build a deck where it was.
Good tip on free standing deck. Set up the rim joist closet to the house on the first set of beam and push it in. I see a lot of deck with double rim joist. I didn't see it in the deck that you're building here. Is there a reason why you didn't go with double rim joists?
Because the beams are doubled. They are the ones caring the weight.
What a beautifully done th-cam.com/users/postUgkxYGamVaHfdHiPlAQaLa7zkwR02OKpGYDU ! The instructions and the photographs are brilliant. It is thorough and genuinely informative. Ryan got another winner! No one does it better!
I special ordered 24’ treated pine from my lumberyard. But, they were expensive, especially when I paid them to deliver the 4 long boards.
When you are building a deck that is higher off the ground and you are using 6x6 posts, do you set the beam on top of the post using Simpson hardware, or do you notch the post and set the beam in the notch?
I'm curious about this also. We have high winds with occasional 80+ mph wind gusts.
Notch the 6x6 so the besm sits on the notch
Definitely awesome!! Love your enthusiasm and authenticity. Your creativity and design skills are out of this world. I love seeing how you transform these ordinary spaces into beautiful master pieces. What’s so amazing I think is how you work with so many different materials and transition from different trades like Being a Deck Builder to a mason. You guys are Very talented
You guys are the best! Keep the videos/vlogs coming
I really appreciate that my friend!! We're having a lot of fun making the videos lol so I'm glad you're digging them!
FYI You can get up to 24 foot 2x12 treated I just bought some for a deck job from a big box store
You have some AMAZING videos on your various projects! What’s state/area do you work in? Your crazy inlay project turned out wonderful.
Thanks a lot!! We mostly work in south jersey
@@THEpremieroutdoor That's great, I'm near the MD line right off 95 about 45 minutes south of Wilmington DE. Maybe if I ever have the money you'll transform my yard. We live on a small lot, 3/4 acre, and basically need you to do this magic for us. If only your channel had 3 million subs and you just needed places to work on for content creation!
amazed you had so many 20' boards that we straight and flat! you go the lumber yard and pick each out? i have never had that good of an experience....
We always use ProWood and have had really good luck with them!
What type of fastener system do you use on the blocking between the joists? Are they simply 2.5-inch nails with a toenail angle or something more complex?
Stagger the blocking so you don't have to toenail. I always use screws. Nails suck.
What are you using in place of traditional concrete posts? Noticed you had something that appeared to be metal rods in the ground.
They are called helical piles. More expensive than concrete footings but will never heave
Premier Outdoor Living how far down do they go?
About 7 feet
Good content. Tip to the video editor..., turn the volume of the music DOWN to the level of the speaker.
I have a 12x12 deck that’s got a wobble to it. How far apart should I put the blocking in the joists?
You can try diagonal bracing underneath the joists to help stiffen it up
what about staining/waterproofing the lumber? is it ready to stain from the store or i am hearing to wait a year before staining and is it worth waiting.
needs to dry out, maybe 3 months....
Do you have to use preservative on the cut ends?
did you flash the "rim Joist" that butts up against the house?
What’s the deciding factor to make it freestanding vs ledger board.
I love the salt and pepper hair. I was mad distracted. But I did learn a couple tips on framing. I plan on making a ground deck that's freestanding like this one is. But I am going to mill my own wood and I'd have to treat it myself for ground contact
Mill the joists to shortest measurement with table saw....
Any tips for companies or customers that want hard wood? Ie right now doing black walnut and one black locust. Much different than pressure treated wood. It is 16 on center plus attached to house
Sorry buddy, nope, we only use pressure treated for framing and composite for the decking!
What exactly do you call the lumber used in the video. In California, when i see pressure treated lumber, it is always the dark brown soft wood with little dent marks all over. Like the fencing posts. Thanks
This is also pressure treated, its PT yellow pine!
I couldn't concentrate, was obsessed with that awesome hair
You should see it right now, it’s a god damn shame what this quarantine has done to my luscious locks
Man i was having the same problem. Haha. I need a haircut too.
I need to ledger my deck to my house and where I need to attach ledger to the rim joist its an engineered I beam running perpendicular with ledger. So what would you do? Also deck 5' off ground
Make it freestanding deck
It's best not to attach to LvL (laminated veneer lumber) which is used as a rim joist on many homes. It can fail quite easily...the free standing would be the best but you will need diagonals due to the 5 foot height...check local codes
Can you use screws to hold the 2x12's for the beams together as opposed to nails? If so what screws would you recommend
You definitely can, just use some heavy screws like a grk or fastenmaster
@@THEpremieroutdoor thank you!
Anytime!
Epoxy coated deck screws
What is the brand of the hardware you used to hold the beams?
4.10 love the face of the guy in the back
Can u put the base of the deck into an already existing concrete pad for a double wide mobile????
If it’s in good shape probably!
I would make sure the beams are on paver pads so water can run out from underneath and they can’t sit in puddles of water. It will be a faff to mortar bed and level the pavers. But better than rotten beams.
What about hanger brackets? Why not screws instead of nails?
Overall good video good information!
Are you only using nails for joists?
Yup
where u guys located
Did you guys not use a ledger board for this project?
4:07 look at the guy in the background. "Boss, TH-cam is slowing us down bro."
Why aren't you ledgering off the house and using joist hangers? You couldve eliminated 2 of the 3 beams.
Ledgers should be avoided on lower decks. They're really only good for eliminating posts on taller decks with visible/usable space underneath. Ledgers boards put all the weight on fastening hardware rather than a nice sturdy beam. Still would've needed the middle beam anyway with 2x8 joists.
everyone should follow it for make a shed.
Is that a Lufkin tape with that black blade?
2:47 what is this "this old house" ?? LOL
WOW, looked like a big waste of lumber cutting them to length, I know there are standard lengths but looked painful to watch
I bet the foundation of the deck would last much longer if the downspout seen at 1:51 wasn't draining underneath it.
Yeah I noticed that too --- seems like an easy fix.
Is 12"C Code by you or just what you guys do ?
I don't get it. 6:41 if you cut off three feet off the end of the joists, then you could have used boards that are two feet shorter and save yourself a ton of money. What am I not understanding?
silverwoodchuck47 great observation! The reason I do that is because it was 17 feet. 18 foot boards are such an odd size that they end up sitting around the lumber yard for a long time and you get some really crappy pieces. 20 footers are really common and you always end up getting fresh lumber that is much better
The cut offs are for mid-span blocking
What did you use as footings?
We now use Goliath Tech helical piles!
Not only that joists are different in height, when using jigs to attach the joist hangers please take that into account! I did the mistake of creating by using a scrap joist and using it to attach my joist hangers, in the end i had to take most of them out since a lot of my joists would be unlevel with the beam by as much as 1/4 inch
footings /piers/ pads????
Steel decks are where it's at, every joist is machines perfectly flat without imperfections
I’ll have to try out steel framing on a deck sometime soon!
@@THEpremieroutdoor here in Australia it's the go to, especially larger decks, you get much greater spans for the same dimension too
The only thing I like about wood is it’s really easy to add blocking for complex inlays, is that also easy with steel?
@@THEpremieroutdoor Yeah I'm not sure about what's avliable in the US but we got off the shelf kits with 100's of brackets allowing anything, you can always still use some timber and fix it within the steel joists
It’s starting to become more popular in the states, not so much in my area but it’s definitely something I’m looking into! Do you just buy galvanized steel framing? Trex and fortress both make steel framing but they don’t have a lot of hardware options
Square off of the house. even if the house isn't square... Guess the building inspector is a friendly guy there...
did you not use joist hangers?
This is a freestanding deck, not attached to the house so there is no need for hangers
They are cantilevered passed the beam a short distance. For every foot passed you need 4 feet back. 17' joist size? I think its well passed the code in my area.
Great job
@@THEpremieroutdoor With a cantilevered end you should always use joist hangers. they resist the up force of the cantilevered end and resist twisting of the joists. Ask me how I know...I am tearing an old deck down that was just end nailed and every joist is rotted at the end...plus it looks like you are only using maybe 3 to 3 1/2 inch nails. That means only 1 1/2 to 2" is in the joist. I thought Jersey was much stricter than that. End grain also has a tendency to split...
You can actually get 26' 2x12 special order at any big box store..
No shit? Thats amazing. How about 2x10s?
@@mediocrefloridaman I'm not sure where you are located, but if you have a Menards then yes you should be able to get most dimensional lumber in atleast 24'.
Make sure it's approved for ground contact
Listen carefully @ 05:51
@@ernestgalvan9037 not that interested tbh
Most important thing you can do is install blocking ITS CODE TO INSTALL BLOCKING DOWN ALL BEAMS AN BLOCK YOUR JOIST!
if i had a quarter for every time he said Madison wood.... bro is this a how to frame or a Madison wood ad
If you're doing this DIY don't forget your building permit. The gov't wants their money too!
100%, ain’t worth risking it!
Neil? Is that you?
7/10
You personal Feeling share with us Lovely Woodplan.
Should be using timber locks not nails. Nails only for noggins.
Treated wood is not such safe stuff.... depending on the chemicals they used.. 12 inches on center... how much more solid is it then 16 on center? its a deck not supporting a house ...
Throw back
Digging through the archives?!
Yeah you know it!
Camera is more on this guy's face than the project itself
And that’s a major perk, right?
Time for metric
3:47 Attention back on me please. Thank you peasant.
Yeah that's a great way to nail the frame if you have 30 people to lift it and put it in place against the house unfortunately I only have one helper shit buddy I can't even imagine trying to figure out how heavy that frame must have been I know how much a single 2x12x20 weighs 2 guys would bust their ass trying to carry one your way of framing a deck is very unrealistic and you must be getting a pretty good discount from Madison lumber I think you said their name at least 20 times
I turned off the video when I saw you were using a Lufkin tape 🤢
Lol they get ruined after a few weeks no matter what brand when being used outside all the time so I buy the cheap ones
As long as the same tape does the same job who cares?
I made some tool drawers recently. Some got measured with the tape, some with the framing square. Half had to be scrapped - too big for the case. Rookie mistake.
But he can nail with the nail gun other than that he don't do a fucking thing
Untrue....u can get lumber longer than 20 ft....
Most lumber yards don’t stock it though, that’s really what I meant
@@THEpremieroutdoor not true either....most lumberyards don't stock treated in lengths longer than 20.....30 yr master....I don't just build decks budroseph
woog e you should make some framing videos to show your 30 year master experience. I bet you don’t make ANY talking mistakes...
@@nicholasjohn1001 no....I do....I've got videos....but idgaf if u see them
@UCrBZy2_qypF8PzPapTuiojQ lol.....now I really want to show u...u pretty tuff on phone....u anywhere near white oak Texas I'm bored....I'd sure like to meet u
Hate to be negative but Im building 35 years and a lot of these methods seem amateurish.
He red decks for dummy's this morning He don't have a clue he's only in the way the guys working know what's going on lmao
What if he's the company owner?
Didn't get this video at all ..
Why wouldn’t you just attach the ledger to the rim of the house and use joist hangers? No need to separate the variance in width or pick up and move the entire frame. If you were 10 feet up in the air, your video is pointless.
This guy likes to repeat the phrase "no thinking involved" 😅 makes you and your crew sound like Tards
This dudes hair is trying too hard
I learned nothing
cool!
That is a weird way to build a deck, no thanks.