Adding a SECOND Way to Start the OLD Cat TraxCavator!!! ~ Part 17 ~ 1950s Caterpillar TraxCavator

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  • So the Pony Motor is AWESOME, but can be a HUGE pain to deal with, AS WE'VE LEARNED. Maybe it's time to change something to make using this machine EASIER!
    I LOVE the old school way this machine is started with the Pony Motor, and as much as I don't want to eliminate it!
    I found a way to ADD a direct starter to the Diesel Engine AND keep the Pony Motor so it can also start the Diesel!
    HOW COOL is that!! TWO ways start this old Cat Track Loader!!
    Join me, and I'll show you how I did it! I got pretty lucky with the way my machine was already setup!
    For help doing this on your machine, check out George at Auto-Lec Rebuilders... He is awesome and he helped me a ton figuring out everything I needed to complete this Starter Add on for "Old Red"! auto-lec.com/crawler-tractors/
    0:00 - Highlights of the Project So Far
    1:06 - Back in the Cat Showing Where a Direct Starter Will Go
    2:30 - Removing the Starter Cover Plate
    3:12 - IT HAS ARRIVED!
    4:43 - Introducing the SECOND Way to Start the DIESEL Engine!
    6:20 - HOW To Add a Direct Starter to Most Old Cat's
    8:26 - ANY Ideas on WIRING BOTH Starters?!?
    10:08 - Testing the Starter
    11:26 - WHICH Starter will Work?
    12:34 - Removing the Starter Nose Cone
    13:49 - Making Cooper Wire Lugs
    18:22 - Changing the Bendix / Drive Gear on the Starter
    26:45 - WHY add a Starter in ADDITION to the Pony Motor?!?
    30:48 - Let's talk about Storing / Organizing Parts for FUTURE Use
    35:31 - Test Fitting & Trimming the Starter Nose Cone
    40:31 - Making a Gasket for the Starter
    41:42 - ReInstalling the Starter's Nose Cone
    42:26 - INSTALLING the NEW STARTER!
    45:41 - I Had to Adjust the Starter & Trim part of the Engine Block
    48:01 - Final Walk Around
    48:54 - SHOULD I DO THE DIESEL HEAD GASKET?!?
    52:52 - Would You Watch me Fix the Tahoe?!?
    53:41 - Want to Come to the MONSTER BonFire?!?
    ~
    Click Below for the FULL Video playlist that contains ALL of the videos and the ENTIRE Journey Bringing this OLD Caterpillar 955 TraxCavator named "Old Red" BACK to life!
    Here is the LINK:
    • 1950's CATERPILLAR 955...
    ~
    I'll show you that OLD machines CAN be a LOT of work, EXTREMELY frustrating at times, but once running properly, an INCREDIBLE amount of fun!!
    I recently discovered this 60+ year old Caterpillar TraxCavator at an old chicken farm, and the owners have honored me with the privilege of bringing it back to life, and then putting it BACK TO WORK!
    Join me as I take you along on my journey through the many ups and downs of this project! I feel honored to be taking on this project, and I truly hope you enjoy the process and progress as we get this OLD CAT to ROAR once again
    #AddingAnotherStarter #CaterpillarTraxCavator #SalvageWorkshop
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  • @wingdwolf56
    @wingdwolf56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Do the work so you won’t worry about it later. If you don’t, you’ll be watching it leak every time you use it. And video the Tahoe work too

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I hated watching it leak when I had it running before!

    • @aukepiersma4822
      @aukepiersma4822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SalvageWorkshop So you have your answer....

  • @mantaz603
    @mantaz603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    For all the reasons you mentioned, yes, change the head gasket. You'll kick yourself later if you put it all together and then are forced to do.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah.... I agree, begrudgingly, but I agree!

    • @Fatamus
      @Fatamus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup, I second that emotion... because if you don't .... you will be emoting at yourself the whole time you're working on it .... AGAIN ...
      Did you get a head gasket from Cat?
      the only head gasket I advise putting gasket sealer on (Permatex Aviation 300 only)
      get new water jacket ferrules and seals (goes between the head and block) ... copper ferrules CAN be reused so use caution when removing .... seals are updated to a new type o polymer which replace the leaky old styled rubberish seals. NOTE: after your first heat cool cycle on the new head gasket ... pop valve cover and re-toque the head bolts to final toque spec.

    • @bobblack3870
      @bobblack3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SalvageWorkshop Too bad you didn't tighten the head bolts to see if that would have solved the problem while it was running.

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobblack3870 just looking at this again, I think the old head gasket has already expired due to age and the materials available when it was originally made.

  • @Gman13
    @Gman13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Having been a diesel mechanic for 50 yrs before I retired, I would check the head bolts for correct tightness, if they are okay, I'm afraid the head will have to come off to cure the leaks.
    Well done on the work though, I really enjoy seeing how you overcome problems. Keep the Vids coming. Regards Graham (UK)

  • @kevjo13
    @kevjo13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never herd the 2 word's pony motor in my short life! Lol.

  • @lilreb601
    @lilreb601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Yup! Since you’re in it this far, might as well. Because you’ll doubt yourself later. And YES, I’d follow the Tahoe series!!!

    • @xxbreakingwindxx4264
      @xxbreakingwindxx4264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      agreed

    • @gutsngorrrr
      @gutsngorrrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree, it would be mad not to do it.

    • @terrydavis6132
      @terrydavis6132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If your needing Tahoe to ride , then by all means fix it first , I used to run a 955 just like that when I was fifteen and sixteen , I would certainly like to see it fixed back right with it's bucket in the dirt and making some money ..... A little advice , when you start working it hard in a tight place , get ready to do some sweating , that's a lot of hot metal to be setting on top of .

    • @josephderusso1678
      @josephderusso1678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know you want to

    • @josephderusso1678
      @josephderusso1678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also Tahoe 👍

  • @kenchasser4376
    @kenchasser4376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Go for the head gasket on “Old Red” now! And, you’ll be able to adjust your rockers at the end.

    • @robertwenzell9510
      @robertwenzell9510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I concur with the Head Gasket replacement

    • @johnadams3152
      @johnadams3152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about retorquing the head bolts first to see if it really needs to be tore down. theres been a lot of loose bolt on Old Red.

  • @tiptondavid
    @tiptondavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've gotten sucked in on these videos. I'm up to 17 on old Red so heck yeah, make it brand new. I'd love to see you redo the Tahoe, too! I even subscribed! I am 73 and I'll never be doing anything like this but I'm loving you doing it! Thanks! I love dogs an kids so I'm with ya all the way!

    • @davecanly7535
      @davecanly7535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like old red won't be back

  • @64marine
    @64marine ปีที่แล้ว

    Called the starter supplier guy; he appreciated your listing him.

  • @GodzillaB210
    @GodzillaB210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I am throwing my hat in on changing the head gasket. Like you said, it's a good time to do it.

  • @julianpighin1572
    @julianpighin1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    YAAAAS. I'm ashamed to admit I'm addicted to this series

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why are you ashamed? OWN IT!

    • @Simon-nn4kf
      @Simon-nn4kf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here brother !!

    • @leoalmond9489
      @leoalmond9489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't stop this service on OLD RED I LOVE IT!!!

  • @JB-NZ
    @JB-NZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    @Salvage Workshop, I have been binge watching this whole series over the last few days, love it. But no update since this Part 17, 9 months ago? Has there been something mentioned in another one of your series which I haven't seen yet? Would love more updates on this series. I was gutted to get to 17 thinking I have 9 more months of possible content to binge, and I have come to the end.

    • @davecanly7535
      @davecanly7535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like the end for old red, no series 18???

    • @WIDESIDE72
      @WIDESIDE72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wondered the same thing…

    • @ajl9491
      @ajl9491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scrap price is going thru the roof! Gotta fund other stuff!

    • @ljangus
      @ljangus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know as well.

  • @johnfrett1739
    @johnfrett1739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would like to suggest finding another starter cone and removing less material and using larger corner radii. If the cone deflects the end bearing will wear quicker or may possibly bind. If the cone breaks things can go really bad. Additions and/or corrections to this post are welcome.

  • @apachepaul
    @apachepaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "Switch is smoking, wires are getting hot...", smashes button 5 more times, "...probably not good for it!" LOLOL!

  • @Larry_C_191
    @Larry_C_191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    For 12 volt just run a line from the positive of the first battery in series. It's only the second battery that gives you 24 volts. Many 24 volt machines have lots of 12 volt accessories. I do it all the time on heavy equipment and trucks.
    Keep up the extremely interesting videos.

    • @gutsngorrrr
      @gutsngorrrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was going to say the same thing.

    • @MrEdwardhartmann
      @MrEdwardhartmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robjustlooking8729 That 24V alternator/regulator is the whole key to the simple configuration. If he stays with the 12V charging system, then then the batteries will need to be in parallel for charging and series for starting - a much more complex switching problem.

    • @challengerhitchman
      @challengerhitchman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrEdwardhartmann switches are common to go between 12 and 24 volt, many ag tractors start on 24 but operate on 12v.

    • @tractorguysgarage7057
      @tractorguysgarage7057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup we have a couple of dozers that are 24v start but all the cab controls and lights are 12v. In ours the 24v cable runs direct to the starter and that's it. Another line runs off the first batt with 12v and runs into the cab to power all the rest including the starters solenoid

    • @tractorguysgarage7057
      @tractorguysgarage7057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also then as mentioned they have 24v alternators as well

  • @JohnnyUmphress
    @JohnnyUmphress 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know exactly where you are coming from with organization. My kids laugh at me about my obsessive organization and labeling everything in bins. But I always find anything I have in a moment's notice. Or I can tell them right where to get at whatever they are looking for in my shop.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!!! It takes lots of time to be organized, but NO one laughs when they need something and you have it AND know RIGHT where it is!!

    • @roymay3006
      @roymay3006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I was more organized, Mrs claus reminds me every day of my disorganization. And the elves to as well.

  • @aussiepewpew557
    @aussiepewpew557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta say i really love this old red series.👍🏻
    I did my trade in engine machining and assembly straight after school, for 12 years. Now I'm a plant operator here in Australia for 14 years, so these videos encompass everything i love. Keep up the great work. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @alfredneumann4692
    @alfredneumann4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In the moment you asked abt the head gasket, it's not a question anymore: Make it. You will feel better and you sleep better.
    And yes, lets look the Tahoe! Regards from Germany.

  • @brentking-gmailking2570
    @brentking-gmailking2570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Yes, video the repairs on the truck. We all will watch it.

  • @eldonjenkins551
    @eldonjenkins551 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was always taught that when something has been opened up fix it. Saves time and usually money in the long run. Good videos and love to see old things brought back to life. These are the machines that built a lot of America and it's a shame to see them turned to junk and put out like old People

  • @paulfreeman5054
    @paulfreeman5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you kept the pony motor.

  • @sjp52047
    @sjp52047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You answered it yourself. I always ask the question, "will it be any easier any other time than it is now?" Then comes, "well I might as well as". So there you go. I really like your decision to keep the pony in it as well as the new starter. Regards, Solomon

  • @JAQ157
    @JAQ157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Go ahead and make it right, you've come this far. Imagine if you don't do it and then you have take everything apart again.

  • @roderickmacgregor4867
    @roderickmacgregor4867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking from my own self anything you put out i will watch and enjoy go for the truck

  • @ronmathewson
    @ronmathewson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes to both, I enjoy learning new things, whether it's old tractors or newish trucks. Great channel, keep up the nice work.

  • @williamhague2768
    @williamhague2768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Do it. You’ll never regret it.
    Quality work never costs, it ALWAYS pays....

  • @andrewd.1113
    @andrewd.1113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for telling how the Pony Motor could be used to pre-heat the engine on a cold day to make starting easier. It goes to show how much though went into the design of this machine.
    Your explanations as to what you are doing , and what will be done next are logical and methodical. I don't want to "blow smoke" at you, but yours is one of the best channels on TH-cam! Keep up the good work!

    • @andrewd.1113
      @andrewd.1113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

  • @rogerlaw7472
    @rogerlaw7472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like you say your so far into restoring ole red and with the parts you have already removed your well on your way.......it would be Sod’s law the leaking will get worse further down the line. Removing the head having it skimmed and new gasket isn’t a massive undertaking and certainly is worth doing now,and man after me own heart as I like the way like me you research and give it ago and your doing a great job on this traxcavator...... really enjoying ole reds journey.

  • @craigsmith8217
    @craigsmith8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The electric starter sounds like a good idea for starting a warmed up diesel. I suspect using the pony motor for cold starts would work best.

  • @garfield1415
    @garfield1415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i agree on the fact that you have "OLD RED" already apart, it seems like a no-brainer to do the head gasket now purely for longevity of the machine, i really enjoy watching the videos!

  • @cadcad4974
    @cadcad4974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have been following your Big Red project from the beginning don't want to miss a single video!🙂

  • @JeremiahMuchangi
    @JeremiahMuchangi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Addictive series. Watched and learnt so much this month on the Old Red videos

  • @likemydrums666
    @likemydrums666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I repair various drum kits and I label spare parts like that. I also put a brief description in a XL spreadsheet so I can just check that before I have to spend money on spares. I love your dedication to solving each problem. Brilliant!

  • @johnforgy2494
    @johnforgy2494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Head gasket now. You don't want to button everything up and then go back and tear it apart to fix a leak you can access now. Love your videos...you do a great job explaining and educating as you go. The dogs are great too!!

  • @StealthDonut1
    @StealthDonut1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I'm not a mechanical expert or engine guy, but it seems that at every step along the journey of getting Ol' Red back up and running you've removed various parts and in *every* one of them you've found something that made you glad you did it. This beast is Korean War vintage, pushing 70 years old now and just based on that it's probably well worth it to take it apart, refurbish everything inside, and then slap it back together again. It'll be in great working order, but most importantly you'll *know* it's in great working order because you did the work on it! :)

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That track drive sprocket that nearly took your leg off when it let gos is testament to this machine's hard life. Why would the cylinder head be any different? YKIMS. ;)

    • @carstennelson4830
      @carstennelson4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's a bit tired.. she's pushing 70 you would need a new head gasket too..

    • @64marine
      @64marine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed; what you do now to refurbish that motor will ensure that it will run a good while after you quit working; lol.

    • @64marine
      @64marine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A man I knew got one for $15500 non running; refurbished it and buil;t the area for houses (2) and a barn and outbuildings. Then sold the fine running old beast for $25000

  • @richardsmith4147
    @richardsmith4147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, perfect time to do it. Regardless of what you find inside, it’s easier at this point great job on the starter.

  • @dayleb3619
    @dayleb3619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father started mechanised logging with a 955 TraxCavator with a crane custom mounted on the back.
    I have been really enjoying learning about how the machine functioned from your videos as that was well before my time.

  • @davidakridge2831
    @davidakridge2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hard not to keep it authentic. I get it though. This is going to be a working beast.

  • @paulog8813
    @paulog8813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Definitely make a series on the Tahoe fixing. Concerning the head on the tractor motor, although there is an old saying that if it’s running don’t mess with it; on your case, meticulous as you are, I wouldn’t hesitate to say, DO IT. Greetings from Brazil.

  • @fernandoscrenci9555
    @fernandoscrenci9555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any motor vehicle of any kind you want fix, and tape on TH-cam!! I'll be glad to watch!! You have great program here!! 👍👍👍👍👍 And love your dogs!!

  • @pedrocantarelli3636
    @pedrocantarelli3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go ahead with the restoration. You are doing things correctly. Do not stop! The old red deserves this affection.

  • @kelvinaston1367
    @kelvinaston1367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s worth doing now. You will always regret not doing in the future. Great videos, series and channel. Greeting from London UK

    • @alanbedford9989
      @alanbedford9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the comments r telling u yer get that head off and that sump u can look for nothing there is never a better time than now and I will watch u do that 4 wheel drive and now I will get on with my honda crv clutch in my back yard been at it since I was 17 still spanner ing now 70 enjoy it Google luck from uk

  • @blindeinsteinnichols2023
    @blindeinsteinnichols2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After hard days work on my 1973 lincoln continental its nice to sit back watch you guys repair old stuff to !!!!!!

  • @firewalker1372
    @firewalker1372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has been an amazing series, 100 percent invested in this series now 😂. If I where you, I would definitely go ahead and replace the head gasket. If it’s already leaking and it could only get worse. You already removed a lot crap that’s in the way. Yeah it’s a little more work, but could definitely save you a headache down the road. Get it done bud......

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This starter is what I mentioned to you about several months ago. I'm glad you decided to go this route. I'm sure you won't regret doing this.

  • @bjarnevarme9830
    @bjarnevarme9830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No problem. You put 2 batteries in series to the starter 24v . The 12 v you just connect to one of the batteries. That way you have 2 system with 2 different voltage but connected together.

    • @Mad.Man.Marine
      @Mad.Man.Marine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was gonna say the same thing. I’ve done it like this before.

  • @nathankveene3849
    @nathankveene3849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes to all of the questions, especially the FIRE!

  • @lancedaniels
    @lancedaniels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting and sharing. Great to hear that you will have a back up starter to stand in for the pony motor if necessary.

  • @tomlawson5655
    @tomlawson5655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the work you,ve done on this machine, it would be criminal not to do the head gasket now. You know you won't regret it.

  • @Arachnikadia
    @Arachnikadia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes on the headgasket repairs and yes to watch the bonfire. Love your series! Keep up the great work!

  • @garyablett5180
    @garyablett5180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your dilemma reminds me of the old man who never goes to the Doctor because he might find out bad news ! cheers from Australia

  • @robertbarry4021
    @robertbarry4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely change the head gasket. I was a bus mechanic at NYC MTA. I was not an electrician. However we got 25 Grumman buses of the failing A-Frame fiasco, and I am pretty sure the had a two voltage system 12 and 24.Maybe you could dig up some of the old schematics. I am retired a long time so my memory fails. I love watching Old Red go through the makeover. You're doing a great job, reminds me of myself when I was young.

  • @cliffthelondoncabbie
    @cliffthelondoncabbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive lost a few finger nails putting heavy starter motors in when i was a young strong kid in the 70s so felt for you, please keep it up as i enjoy your videos very much.

  • @TheHandOfFear
    @TheHandOfFear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FOR SIMPLE 12V/24V: You can simply connect the 12V motor to one 12V battery and the 24V motor to two 12V batteries in series, no switch required. The only drawback is that if you ran both on a regular basis the battery supplying the 12V circuit and half of the 24V would drain much faster than the other battery. I don't think this would really be an issue if you are mostly using the 24V motor and the 12V only occasionally. If you were using the 12V regularly you could of course physically swap the batteries from time to time to balance their discharge rate, or even have a switch to alternate the 12V circuit between the two batteries. This might be overkill however. If you have the room, you could simply install 3 12V batteries, one supplying the 12V motor and the other two connected in series to the 24V motor. The advantage being that you have completely isolated circuits, but because all three batteries are the same type, you could physically swap them around if one were to fail giving you some redundancy.

    • @kayneahnung3661
      @kayneahnung3661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly, just put the two batteries in serial (- of Battery one to + of Battery two) for the 12V circuit you just use the connectors of Battery one, for the 24V circuit you use + of Battery one and - of Battery two. I agree that it should be overkill to automatically alternate between the two batteries, but maybe create it in a way that you can easily change where the 12V-Circuit is connected.

    • @wyattbrown9506
      @wyattbrown9506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This might be months later, but just get that old piece of equipment to charge at a 24 volt rate, and charge both batteries as if they were one 24 volt battery.

    • @jimrankin2583
      @jimrankin2583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is space, on a track loader especially. Just not much room to stick 3 batteries, or even two.
      And you can’t simply switch the positive feed for 12 volts between batteries. You have to physically swap the ground as well or you’ll go from 12 volts to 24 when you move the positive cable. It would have been a lot simpler to use a 12 volt starter ☹️

  • @davidhelmuth6654
    @davidhelmuth6654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The consensus is to do the head gasket on “ol red”. As to the content do what you do we will watch. Been watching when you were doing just tool stuff and cleanup and fixing stuff around the shop and house. Was on the fence about the tractor, but now I get upset that it takes to long to see the next thing... 🤫😂👍👍

  • @johnmcdonnell6109
    @johnmcdonnell6109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would absolutely recommend doing the head gasket since you have it down to the state that it is in today! Doing great work and I enjoy the videos! Thanks

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Its better to open the can to see if its full of worms than have them all escape at an inconvenient time after you've spent hours putting it all back together!

  • @sube1988
    @sube1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    in my eyes you are a true genious you deserve 1000000000mil subscribers cheers from country GEORGIA🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🥃🥃🥃

  • @benjaminmellingen5340
    @benjaminmellingen5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    hmm. the head gasket is a tricky one. this is definitely the time to do it if you have the resources and time, but I think you have to prepare yourself to open a can of worms :P if you plan on using the machine I would definitely want a machine that didn't leak!

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YUP! That's the dilemma!

    • @SkullCrusher757
      @SkullCrusher757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SalvageWorkshop shia lebeouf has the perfect saying for this situation "just do it"

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SkullCrusher757 Pretty sure that's Nike's tag line! lol, but ya I agree!

  • @clarklindquist8137
    @clarklindquist8137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the battery terminal tip with the copper tubing. That will help me in my solar build. Thanks so much

  • @iamspindleman
    @iamspindleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The answer to all of your questions is Yes.
    I love watching your videos and look forward to the new ones especially Old Red. Your dogs are a great bonus in the vids. I say do the head gasket but full disclosure, I say that because I want more videos of this project.

  • @russgier4409
    @russgier4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Old semi trucks had a series parallel switch that accommodated a 24 volt starter and a 12 lighting and accessories you might start there, they were phased out in the early 80s they charge both 12 batteries at the same time

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds PERFECT!! I'll look into it, thank you!!

    • @tommywilliams5135
      @tommywilliams5135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lot big trucks from the 80s had parallel switch so you can crank with 24 run everything else on 12 volts

    • @ronaldheit196
      @ronaldheit196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalvageWorkshop please check out my comment on Marine battery switches.

    • @SuperBrainAK
      @SuperBrainAK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What you need to do is connect the two 12v batteries in series, then connect the negative of one battery to the chassis ground and ground of both starters. Then the positive of the second battery in series (24v) will go to the contactor of the giant Diesel starter. Then the midpoint of the two batteries (positive of the battery connected directly to chassis ground) will be your 12v point. The 12v from that will go directly to the contactor of the Pony motor starter. Then all you need to do is have a toggle switch that changes which starter contactor gets energized or have two different buttons to engage one of the two starters. You will probably need to use the 12v to engage the pony motor starter contactor and the 24v to engage the Diesel starter. So wire the two buttons or switches approprietly. Lastly you just need to have a 24v alternator to charge the batteries in series and the SLA chemistry will do all the balancing you may need by itself.

    • @deanparsons2594
      @deanparsons2594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another option is 24 to 12v voltage regulators common to electric golf carts. They are cheap. Hope this helps.

  • @barrytimmerman2411
    @barrytimmerman2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Yes, definitely put in a new head gasket. It’s logical. Pay me now or pay me later as the expression goes.

    • @jimjoenks5595
      @jimjoenks5595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To srart it on 24 then run on12 volt you just need a series parallel switch availible at any truck shop

    • @realanimal3602
      @realanimal3602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes do it now, with having so much off now is the time since it is already leaking. If you don't, the leak will get worse then it will be a bear to pull everything back off.
      Just my 2 cents on the Tahoe, there are so many channels that work on the newer cars and trucks. I come here to see the more unusual. I mean really how many other channels are working on old forklifts and crawler loaders? Back in the day my dad operated a grader, not sure the brand, it was huge but only had 4 wheels not 6. It had 4 wheel steering and started with a pony motor. I always wondered how it worked, now thanks to you I know.

  • @roblachman8919
    @roblachman8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, still here watching Old Red getting bought back to life. You have put so much time and effort into her up to this point I would definitely do the head. You would have peace of mind in the end. Stay safe.🇦🇺👍

  • @GMascelli
    @GMascelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stumbled upon your videos and binge watched all of “Old Red”. Love the old iron and your great attitude. Looking forward to working my way through the playlists.

  • @michaelalan1546
    @michaelalan1546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey man, in my opinion you’ve done such a wonderful job restoring and fixing your Traxcavator , I think it would be worth it to take the time to replace the head gasket and as far as your Chevy Tahoe I really enjoy your enthusiasm in how you go about restoring and fixing the things that you work on it’s a pleasure to watch your channel!

  • @stevecobb6001
    @stevecobb6001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Greetings SW from North Wales UK. Great series!

  • @dwayneshelton9306
    @dwayneshelton9306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you will feel better and sleep better knowing that you did everything you could to have a safe and useable machine.

  • @f75gunslinger
    @f75gunslinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely do the head gasket now. You've already got so much of the work done to get to the head easily, and if the head is leaking as badly as I remember it needs to be done. The more you run it the worse it'll get.

  • @robertbohannan2255
    @robertbohannan2255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never be any easier than it is right now.. Go for it.

  • @kadmaster
    @kadmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfect timing...Cheers from Turkey....

  • @space-pop3527
    @space-pop3527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like watching how you think things through so even though I don't care about the Tahoe, I would probably watch just to see what you run into.

  • @Djwally13
    @Djwally13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally! A starter! I just found out you'll be using both. What a great contingency plan! 😁👌

  • @KathrinRena
    @KathrinRena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I found in my life, if you have to ask your self "should I?" then 95% of the time, yes you should, change the head gasket

    • @fedebla70
      @fedebla70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you're sailing and the wind is getting strong that the rule to know when to reef the mainsail: when you think about it, do it

  • @Gman13
    @Gman13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just has a added note, regarding the starter when you tested it, I noticed you had the pos. battery feed on the end body stud. This should be a earth return (assuming it is neg return), the small wire from the solenoid to this stud allows the solenoid to work (neg return), that bracket you call a support bracket on the solenoid is actually the feed to the starter motor after the bendix has engaged. The pos wire from the battery should go to the other large solenoid stud. To operate the starter, a pos feed should go to the other small solenoid connector (not the wire that goes to the earth stud) Hope this helps

    • @mikekopisz1227
      @mikekopisz1227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking the exact same thing.....Stud on the can is -/negative...main post on solenoid is main +/positive....inner post on the solenoid,is solenoid/bendex trigger and outer,small post on the solenoid is an option lead,that energizes when key is in start position,to either "throw" a 3 wire fuel shut off or to energize a murphy switch....UNLESS, its a reverse polarity setup,which I've seen in the past,but that's usually seen on an engine that uses a generator/starter combo ..I think he needs to confirm his wiring,before his hard work goes up in smoke

    • @robertkenney-oles5948
      @robertkenney-oles5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of 24v systems are positive ground

  • @jeffnewcomb212
    @jeffnewcomb212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Decided to redo the traxcavator I inherited with my ranch thanks to your series!

  • @alan71033
    @alan71033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you should definitely videotape the Tahoe. My father was a mechanic. I seen all this when I was growing up. I think today’s kids and young men even some of the girls would love to see these videos. I can do what you do but I don’t do well with a video camera. It’s also nice watching somebody else wrench learning your ideas.

  • @johncole1917
    @johncole1917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WHEN YOU ARE WIRING THE NEW STARTER, I RECOMMEND PUTTING A KEYED INLINE “DEAD MAN” SWITCH. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE THE BATTERY FROM DRAINING IF ANY OPTION IS LEFT RUNNING, THERE IS A DEAD SHORT, AND PREVENT AN KIDS OR UN-NICE PERSON FROM USING THE POOR OLD LADY.

  • @malcolmlane-ley2044
    @malcolmlane-ley2044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank goodness the pony moder isn’t going to be trashed otherwise I heard that 300 times for nothing

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOLOLOL

    • @RSterkenburg
      @RSterkenburg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you not need the pony to warm the coolant? Sure the starter CAN start the diesel cold, but SHOULD it?

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RSterkenburg I think this alone is a strong reason to keep the pony motor. Though you could fit a fuel fired block heater.

  • @tolbaszy8067
    @tolbaszy8067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are enough domestic auto repair videos on TH-cam. Video the Tahoe for yourself. New head gasket for Red. Great organizational skills. We know you love to say "Pony Motor", so keeping it is a no-brainer!

  • @buddycarroll9665
    @buddycarroll9665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy the work on the pony motor and starter. Sure do the head gasket . I’m a gear head and more than likely many of your viewers are too.

  • @fredrichardson9761
    @fredrichardson9761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely pay more attention to other commentators who know something, but I think addressing the slightly leaky head gasket is probably a good idea. I know 1 projects leads to 1000 and it's hard to know if you should do something just because you can, so I I'll only say that I would certainly watch the video and I would certainly watch the Tahoe restoration work as well! Great video by the way - nice upgrade to the old beast you got in there this time around!

  • @Quake81270
    @Quake81270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I would do everything you can do to "Old Red" while he is disassembled. Dogs, other rebuild videos or home repair whatever you do we (subs who watch ALL your posts) will watch and some won't like it but the vast majority will support you.

  • @altairbauer3297
    @altairbauer3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a big yes to all your questions about making more vids. i love your stuff and am learning so much from them.

  • @WACRE44
    @WACRE44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ol Red is Awesome thankful for your beautiful vlogs.

  • @stevewilkinson7200
    @stevewilkinson7200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve watched and enjoyed everything that you have posted so far so I would say YES to the Tahoe series!

  • @almostanengineer
    @almostanengineer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think you answered your own question, this is one of the easiest times to do it, so you might as well do it.

  • @paulbutterfield6924
    @paulbutterfield6924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m with you with tests and memory. Only things I have done with hands on do I remember.👍👍👍

  • @robertjull9851
    @robertjull9851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally enjoy your channel. Old red deserves to be rebuilt to the best of your ability. Change the head gasket.

  • @traktorworks3200
    @traktorworks3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    absolutely top video
    no waffle
    gets to the point
    knows his stuff
    interesting projects
    no crappy music
    so keep up your excellent work as I really enjoyed it

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You nailed it! He isn't showing a bunch of tattoos, with colored hair using filthy profanity trying to develope a brand while all we want is wrenching. Cheers!

  • @pipefitter1728
    @pipefitter1728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1. Old Red, definitely replace the head gasket, most of the tear down is already done. The engine started relatively quickly and seemed to run strong without a lot of exhaust smoke, so I don’t think that you have a lot of issues with sleeves, pistons, rings, etc. I would definitely watch it if you filmed it!
    2. The Tahoe, of course film the work on it! I’m sure your experience has shown that a video that you think won’t be of much interest gets a huge number of views , and others that you think are great don’t get as much attention. TH-camr’s are funny that way!

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As to #2 Yes you hit that one RIGHT on the head! Most times I know if a video will do well, but I have been surprised, both ways before!

  • @rafidishak7801
    @rafidishak7801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video....by all mean this is the time to do the head gasket to stop the leaks . Bettter do it now rather than dealing with it later ...
    Looking forward to see more of your nice thorough presentation.

  • @stuartwatson3178
    @stuartwatson3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the way you explained making the terminal tabs for the electronics, better to do the head gasket now then regret it latter.

  • @tomanpcm
    @tomanpcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    :-) Greetings from Slovakia.

  • @Argumedies
    @Argumedies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your can of worms opened up the day you walked in that old barn.
    With everything you've already done, it would be foolish to not replace the head gasket because if its already leaking, its not going to get better and your choices are to do it now or do it later.
    I dont know why im so vested in this machine but ive watched every one of them and i look forward to its completion.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol... yeah this machine was more like a truck load of worms, wasn't it!! Slowly but surely, we're getting them taken care of!! Thanks for the support! I truly appreciate it!

  • @davidtaylor8304
    @davidtaylor8304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suspect head gaskets only ever get worse, they never cure themselves. Lifting the head will also address several other "unknowns". Take the injector's away for a professional service. Money, money !! but you'll compliment yourself in the long run. Much impressed with all your work so far. Cheers.

  • @stanolmstead6540
    @stanolmstead6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see it . I can’t Wait to see how the Starter Works out for You . You are very Smart to have both the Pony Motor and Starter Good Job and Thanks for Videoing Your Progress

  • @harmonicadude4732
    @harmonicadude4732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The real question to ask is how many more episodes until the opening is “so I pulled the main diesel out of old red”.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NEVER!!

    • @chadnaumetz2189
      @chadnaumetz2189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SalvageWorkshop I hope you haven’t jinxed yourself , but I would still watch.

    • @markdauncey927
      @markdauncey927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never - That's only because you'll in frame it 😀😀

  • @sunkmango6673
    @sunkmango6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah its better to it now while its fairly easy to get to. And yes I'd watch a tahoe repair series

  • @francismewton3276
    @francismewton3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You won't know until you take the cover off while there's nothing in the way, at the end of the day it's a learning curve. All the best. Great job so far...

  • @robertadriver6931
    @robertadriver6931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've gone thru all these problems so don't stop now. Fix her up & enjoy her, you deserve it. I'm surprised you are not subscribed to Matt at Diesel Creek as he is into old/vintage machines too. Hope you do more videos with the old Cat soon.