The Old CAT Moves DIRT after 15+ YEARS ~ DAY 6 ~ RARE 1954 Cat No.6 Shovel FORGOTTEN in a BARN

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  • Day Six is in the books! Now that the hydraulic hoses are replaced, Big Bad John is ready to dig again! Before I started digging, I worked on a few maintenance items, such as the thermostats and the water temperature gauge. I used the grease pump I found in the garage to grease the zerks. Once these tasks were completed, it was time to see Big Bad John in BEAST mode!
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    The DAY by DAY Video PLAYLIST for the REVIVAL of this Rare Caterpillar No.6 Shovel and all of it's videos can be found HERE: • RARE Caterpillar Track...
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    I recently discovered this 60+ year old Caterpillar No 6 Shovel that has been sitting for 15+ years at a farm beautifully parked under a barn! Apparently they parked it one day due to a scare with a tree they were pushing down, and it hasn't moved since!Grandpa has honored me with the privilege of bring this old beast back to life, & then BACK TO WORK!
    Join me on the journey as I show you what it TRULY takes to get old machines running again without doing major harm in the process! It takes a little longer to do it this way, but it's ALWAYS worth it!
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    This will be a little different than normal content, because my plan is to create a new video of the progress I make on the old machine as each day passes. We'll see how this goes, but I'd love to know your thoughts on the different content style, and if you are willing to follow along! Join me as I take you along on my journey through the many ups and downs of this project! I feel honored to be taking on this project, and I truly hope you enjoy the process and progress as we get this OLD CAT to ROAR once again.
    Thanks as always for watching and following along with all my crazy adventures here on Salvage Workshop, I TRULY appreciate it! Please enjoy! I know I did!
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    1:18 - Fixing a flat tire on my truck
    5:52 - Taking a look at the thermostats
    9:48 - Installing a water temperature gauge
    14:11 - Replacing the spark plug
    17:35 - Cleaning up the arm rest and putting back on Big Bad John
    18:46 - Taking a look at the fuel filter tower
    25:12 - Greasing the zerks
    30:00 - Firing up the machine
    31:33 - Back out of the barn we go
    32:50 - Digging!
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    Check out this machine's younger brother, OLD RED. The FULL playlist for the Caterpillar 955 TraxCavator can be found here: • 1950's CATERPILLAR 955...
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    If you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below! Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
    #DiggingWithCatNo6 #CaterpillarNo6Shovel #SalvageWorkshop

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  • @tinkerbob5929
    @tinkerbob5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    It's my understanding that the thermostats are designed to moderate temperature, not only by opening when the temperature rises but to also moderate the speed at which the coolant flows. If the coolant flows too fast through the radiator it's not removing the heat from the coolant at the most efficient level. Awesome channel, I was looking for machining channels but found a diamond in the rough. Best of luck.

    • @MarkD-nd9lg
      @MarkD-nd9lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, the coolant doesn’t spend enough time in the radiator to cool it. Old timer helped me out with that detail when I thought a 160 thermostat would help run cooler. Radiator was also pretty well plugged too...so fixing the radiator was also a big help.

    • @Bobbywolf64
      @Bobbywolf64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What you say sounds like it could be plausible, but in practice it isn't really. Lots of folks for many many years just toss the thermostats if they get stuck closed, or for fear that they might stick closed. Basically what he is saying should be true. The diesel should take longer than normal to heat up. Since it is still overheating, the rad is very likely badly scaled or at least partially plugged. Along with all the coolant passages in the engine.

    • @turkeybasham9644
      @turkeybasham9644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s right on our race cars we had to put a plate in instead of a thermostat. Had to drill a 1/2 hole to hold the coolant in the radiator to cool it. It over heated at first without anything holding the water back during or hot laps.

    • @ngmtk7t
      @ngmtk7t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fluid heat transfer is a balancing act between temp difference (coolant to outside), coolant flow rate and coolant pressure. If any of those are out of whack, the system won’t cool properly.
      He’s right, you need a thermostat to govern flow rate as well as temp. But check your radiator passages as well.

    • @manfredschmalbach9023
      @manfredschmalbach9023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bobbywolf64 You usually do - if no replacement is present - NOT just throw away the thermostat, You remove not more than the part that's supposed to move with the bimetal spring stretching once temperature rises. Most modern engines heavily relying on proper cooling would not work sufficiently or even for a longer time with a completely lacking thermostat. Too many sensors in too many places would influence too much the injection/temperature-sensitive parameters with a completely lacking thermostat which usually would lead to severe, substantial engine damages. Throwing out the whole thing might work with prewar-engines, it might even work with the old Cat diesel engine (which I doubt though), but You can not do that with postwar gas engines or with turboed/directly injected diesel engines

  • @richarddecoster4464
    @richarddecoster4464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    These old machines are living history and a testimont to how well built vehicles were built by our grandparents.

    • @williambrown1031
      @williambrown1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AND, hopefully maintained and stored as well as this one.

    • @how_to_hallagon1
      @how_to_hallagon1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then Nixon and Billy bob came along with trade deals to china and our machines are laughable

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool of that gentleman to let you use his driveway to change your tire.
    I have lived in the city for so long I keep forgetting how decent and helpful country folks are.

  • @jamesdearman814
    @jamesdearman814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    she's a beast old big bad john - thanks for saving her.

  • @richardkuehn5402
    @richardkuehn5402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the fact that you had learned so much from ole Red !

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I learned a TON working on Old Red!

  • @walterlamb4756
    @walterlamb4756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work! I liked your comment “Be Prepared”, with the flat tire. Congratulations on being an Eagle Scout!!!

  • @jimoakley4944
    @jimoakley4944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thermostat controls the water flow. If you do not have a thermostat in place, it lets the water flow without having time to let the radiator do its job to cool the water so the water is circulating without getting cooled down by the radiator and just recirculates the hot water back into the engine. Love watching your progress

  • @joedingman4181
    @joedingman4181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series on this old machine you resurrected the dead and kept it out of the scrapyard bravo sir….

  • @kerrygleeson4409
    @kerrygleeson4409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still digging like a new machine thanks for sharing 🦘👍

  • @tinamorris3512
    @tinamorris3512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your videos on the big old machinery

  • @kennethhall5070
    @kennethhall5070 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, again I appreciate your diligence in working through the problems that crop up. Sign of an outstanding mechanic, not to mention your raisin.

  • @LimaRadek
    @LimaRadek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    sadly those thermostats are gone , that "copper anti seize" is the wax from the actuator that is leaking out.
    thos cans at the bottom are basicly a hydraulic piston filled with wax, as the wax melts it expands and pushes the rod out of the can opening up the valve , as ist cools down the wax solidifyes slowly and contracts so the rod is pulled back (with the assistance of the spring) and the valve closes

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, it looks like a mix of wax and powdered copper. I learned that as a plumber. Water heater pressure relief valves have that same thing within them.

    • @gordonagent7037
      @gordonagent7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had no clue about how they functioned so thanks very much for your post and explanation, always a great day when you learn something of value

  • @bobwyder4344
    @bobwyder4344 ปีที่แล้ว

    I truly enjoy your show keep up the good work recovering old equipment and making it useful again thank you very much for being a special person to do stuff like that God bless you Bob

  • @waynetrain8033
    @waynetrain8033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job learning to shift those sticks. The Ol ‘ Cat sounds good

  • @jonbeardsley3621
    @jonbeardsley3621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Engines can run hotter without a thermostat sometimes because the water/coolant doesn’t stay in the radiator long enough to cool down because it is flowing to quick. We use to run restrictor plates (basically a thermostat without the guts) to slow the flow of coolant down

    • @cyrilhudak4568
      @cyrilhudak4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +1

    • @benchipley
      @benchipley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly. When I was a young hot-rodder, we would replace the thermostat with a washer. The small opening would give the coolant time to do it's job in the radiator but would take the "stuck thermostat" problem out of the equation. Sometimes it would take a few different sizes to find the one that was perfect and would keep the engine at a constant temp.

    • @richardsurber8226
      @richardsurber8226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah...

    • @silvergreylion
      @silvergreylion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your physics teacher failed. Thermostats work by restricting/raising flow according to temperature. If taken out, cooling is always at max, and an engine would run very cool, probably too cool, which is why you'd need a restrictor plate to allow the engine to reach working temperature at top speed.

  • @fernandoscrenci4874
    @fernandoscrenci4874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Bad John is looking good!!👍🏻

  • @nobuckle40
    @nobuckle40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The more I watch this channel the more I thank God that I'm broke! Otherwise I'd be out there trying to find a machine like this to do what you're doing. So cool to see that old thing back in action.

  • @quagmiredavis4117
    @quagmiredavis4117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Add 2 quarts of Macs 1300 water pump lubricant and antirust with antifreeze this will unstuck thermostat and prevent water pump seal damage* you can purchase this at napa auto parts
    And 1 quart or 2 marvel mystery oil to diesel fuel loosen rings and sticking injection pump and injectors
    And 3 to 4 oz marvel mystery oil to pony motor fuel helps lubricant everything
    This is a great informative video like your other videos
    Keep the old iron rescues coming thanks for posting 👍

  • @73DiamondReo
    @73DiamondReo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great feeling rescuing this old iron.

  • @robertarmitage8709
    @robertarmitage8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I deeply respect you for the honor you are giving/showing the presrnt owners and their previous generations. Our debt to those who went before us is often overlooked.
    My hat is off to you my friend.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And my Hat is off the men that ran this old beast before me!

  • @hughbryant1326
    @hughbryant1326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great fun watching this machine come to life. Hugh Somerset UK

  • @jeneannekent7080
    @jeneannekent7080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I look forward to every video you put out. Thank you

  • @timothyargento8457
    @timothyargento8457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job. nice to see the old equipment moving

  • @costrio
    @costrio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Caterpillar tractors have always been an American icon since I was a child. People know more about cars than the big equipment so it is out of the ordinary. Having said that, I don't think it's enough for more than a passing glance, for most folk. What makes it good is how you explain every step, admit your mistakes, and ask for input from your fans. Your presentation is excellent, the camera work is spot on, you give good safety tips and you don't lose your cool, like I would after rapping my knuckle against hard steel. I had never heard of a pony motor before, but it makes sense. You are on a voyage of discoveries and we are tagging along for the ride. Thank you.

    • @janmarkaltmann7636
      @janmarkaltmann7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is One of the best Feedbacks i ever read in youtube

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well Olivier, im glad you're along for the journey with me! I truly appreciate your feedback and im glad you are enjoying rescuing this old piece of history with me! Stick around, LOTS more to come!

  • @lorrainedimmock4096
    @lorrainedimmock4096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noticed that as she warms up, really Powerful.....shifting the dirt well.....

  • @oldunclemikewoodruff4463
    @oldunclemikewoodruff4463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The thermostats are needed to slow the coolant down so that heat transfer can take place. Heat transfer is not instant, so the coolant must have time to absorb heat in the engine and lose it in the radiator. I hope this helps. Keep the videos coming.

    • @tarstakars
      @tarstakars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely correct, without a thermostat all engines run hot depending on the weather or vehicle speed and since that old cat just crawls the fan can't move enough air without thermostatic control.

    • @cumminsnchevy
      @cumminsnchevy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed with all coolant flow restriction for heat transfer, newer engines have the restrictors built into the head gasket that I have seen several times in engine rebuilds but not in the older engines, they rely on the thermostat or thermostats for the correct amount of coolant restriction.

    • @norwegiangadgetman
      @norwegiangadgetman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No, the important thing about a thermostat is that it stops liquid from circulating until the engine reaches a working temperature.
      Remove a thermostat and the engine will just heat up much slower, and will end up smoking and using more fuel. IT will NOT overheat unless there's another issue in the system.
      If it was just to slow liquid down to allow heat transfer, all they'd had to do was install narrower hoses to begin with.
      Heat transfer isn't happening at one single spot in the engine, but all the way from the water enters the engine through the lower hose and until it leaves though the thermostat housing and the upper hose.
      I have run engines without thermostats, and particularly diesels will run cold.

    • @slainesmith
      @slainesmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@norwegiangadgetman Fully agree...a well known antidote to overheating is to remove the T'stat.

    • @IO-zz2xy
      @IO-zz2xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@norwegiangadgetman That is my understanding of thermostats as well.
      Regards from South Africa

  • @bombardier3qtrlbpsi
    @bombardier3qtrlbpsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Bringing USA made equipment back to life.👍👍

  • @MikeK-NIreland
    @MikeK-NIreland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the videos, keep them up. Mick, Northern Ireland 👍👌🍻

  • @jimclark576
    @jimclark576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An old farmer I worked for plumbed his bucket to dump when you pulled back on the lever because he was used to an old manual trip style loader. I could never get used to it.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have considered doing that... I should be able to just switch the hydraulic hoses that feed the control lever...I get why they did it that way, but it is difficult to get used to!

  • @jstutzman1301
    @jstutzman1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another channel that proves that Scouts can do anything. Because failure is not a barrier, it is the best teacher.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sure does pay to be prepared, that's for sure!

  • @busterkeaton3144
    @busterkeaton3144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heavy Equipment Ed..
    Running hot ...
    Density coolant test must be done with a coolant hydrometer ...any automotive parts store will have one.
    Water mix 60/40
    Hydrometer reading -28...-30 Celsius.
    To adjust add water to the pail and must be stirred.
    Big radiators huge payloaders sample taken from bottom of radiator as I learned this in a 2 year heavy equipment course..

  • @skipstein744
    @skipstein744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Success and more to come! Hey! Hey!!

  • @brettrobinson3636
    @brettrobinson3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My thoughts as to why it got so hot is because the water did not have time to cool in the radiator. So it was constantly recirculating around the system. Being that it's not going down a road at speed there's not really air flowing through the radiator like in a vehicle.
    Awesome revival series btw. I think everyone should experience something like operating old equipment to show how much easier we have it now days.

  • @FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS
    @FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great series! Been a fan for a good while Keep up the great work! My 8year son loves Your Channel; He comes an jumps on My knee to watch Your vids soon as I get a notification, He's got autism and gets distracted a lot, very quickly but on Your vids He doesn't move of My knee the whole vid... Thank from both of us Big Hi from Liverpool UK

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that! Glad you're both able to enjoy the vidoes together! Thanks for the support! Lots more to come!

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "reciprocity of life's journey is never ending. Today you doing tomorrow you watching. Thanks for the look.

  • @dale5898
    @dale5898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your very hard work. Fun to watch plus a little education.

  • @IconicSpitters
    @IconicSpitters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Living over here in South West UK 🇬🇧 I have been following your videos for a long time .. loving Big Red and Big Bad John .. keep these old machines running .. well done .. your videos are excellent to watch 👏👏👍😉🤓

  • @drone_nerd
    @drone_nerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing recovery. Thanks for history preservation. Following from Brazil. Thanks

  • @MakinEndsMeet69
    @MakinEndsMeet69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah you are right about not having thermostats in running a cooler temperature at the beginning but the hotter the motor gets the hotter the water gets without thermostats all they do is cycle cool water into the engine from the radiator and warm water into the radiator so it can be cooled. So keep in mind not to run it that long, I do understand you have thermostats coming and it is only temporary thank God. I've seen a lot of people just pull their thermostats out and let me tell you that is just an accident waiting to happen. Great job on the machine and many blessings to you and your family as always.

  • @KBrown517
    @KBrown517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I enjoy most is your persistence and willingness to ask for help. To say nothing about your skills.

  • @mabloodhound
    @mabloodhound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm always pleased to see an Eagle Scout doing great work. Matt at Diesel Creek is also an Eagle. I spent 25 years in Scouting and always notice a lot of You Tubers are scouts.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I learned a LOT in scouts and have NEVER regretted finishing scouts! There is definitely something to be said about Eagle Scouts!

    • @mabloodhound
      @mabloodhound 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalvageWorkshop So glad to read that. I am 80 years old and still use a lot of my scouting experience every day. Keep it up.

  • @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc
    @Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the big bad John series keep them coming

  • @matthewpatstone5933
    @matthewpatstone5933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The longer you were operating that beauty of a machine the more you were getting into the groove of it👍

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, give me a few more hours running it and I'll be quite a bit better! It sure is a workout with all the different things you have to manually control, but I'm ok with that!

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see the old cat doing some work for the first time in many years! As for running hot, once it has functioning thermostats that problem will likely go away, at the moment the coolant is flowing to fast to efficiently cool the engine, don’t worry, it shouldn’t be a problem! Fix that, the pony motor plug clearance and maybe a few hydraulic hoses and leaks and its ready for years of trouble free work! Its a gem!

  • @tfatcher
    @tfatcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no first hand big equipment experience but remain fascinated by your projects and skills.

  • @brianhoway5042
    @brianhoway5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember an old timer telling me the thermostats worked backwards and some of this equipment that’s why there’s two of them. That when they actually got hot they closed and it sent the water where it needed to cool the engine, memory serves me.

  • @marksshed1100
    @marksshed1100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Without the thermostat in place, restricting the coolant flow, the coolant goes through the radiator too fast to get cooled efficiently.
    Even when the thermostat is fully open, it will still slow down the flow.

    • @jimthode
      @jimthode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you look at the thermostat the bottom part controls the bypass. Without the thermostat the bypass is open and the flow is not directed through the radiator. I have a similar thermostat on a Hercules engine. I converted it to a "normal" thermostat but did restrict the bypass so it works fine.
      Too much flow thorough the radiator will not cause it to run hot.

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Too much flow through radiator causes engine to run too cool. Not good as it never reaches normal operating temperature.

    • @dimievers5573
      @dimievers5573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since it's a dual thermostat in one housing I would put one back in there so you atleast will have a little bit of restriction to get the machine up to some sort of working temperature

    • @duanecook1
      @duanecook1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are absolutely correct

    • @FangBlah
      @FangBlah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimthode Too much flow will cause the fluid to not stay in the radiator long enough for heat transfer and get heat soaked; the fluid gets hotter and hotter.

  • @The-Deadbolt-Deputy
    @The-Deadbolt-Deputy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can’t believe how fast this rig was going in only 3rd gear. Wow. You did an awesome Job on this loader. It’s satisfying to me when everything is officially working and all points are greased. Thanks for sharing

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I couldn't believe it either... cant wait to try out 5th gear!

  • @chuckmcatee9000
    @chuckmcatee9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, Big Bad John really travels! And I love that you pick names which honor the machine's history, that's awesome!

  • @dennislaws5187
    @dennislaws5187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dad owned a smaller version of that same machine, A 933G 4cyl hand clutch, reverser lever and the backwards dump lever, when I was 13, I moved thousands of yards of dirt then, and more later when he got a 955H series, with power shift and pedal steer. Then a 955K and later a 955L. I wish I had a 933G now, I enjoy operating those old monsters.

  • @RustyNail5856
    @RustyNail5856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, i can't wait for the one.

  • @philliphennessy9757
    @philliphennessy9757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day from australia, i wish to thank you so very much for saving old machinery and allowiing me to ride along, keep it up and thanks agai ( from pj ) !!!!!😅😅

  • @gordonagent7037
    @gordonagent7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic viewing and learning experience. This has to be the most complete machine I’ve ever seen as a barn find. Bloody well done

  • @Jossy92
    @Jossy92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep this type of video coming. Thanks

  • @greypoet2
    @greypoet2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All the time I've watched you, I've waited for the day you put out regular content. Knew it would come. You have a lot of very interested and curious followers that love the work you do. You're doing work the rest of us are envious of.
    You're right, looks like you have a coolant flow problem. Wish I had the smarts to figure out what, but you will.
    Be blessed.

  • @rebootonthetrail51
    @rebootonthetrail51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two of my favorite TH-camrs, Salvage Workshop and Diesel Creek are fellow Eagle Scouts. Way to represent the club guys! Boys Life magazine should do an article on your success.

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME BUILD!...thanks 4 video. be kind.

  • @roadlizardcu8664
    @roadlizardcu8664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Agree with the circulation issues other commenters addressed, one simple thing to check is the radiator cap which maintains the pressure in the system and could also effect flow.

    • @bensymington5550
      @bensymington5550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the video looks like you’re having fun out there

    • @csnelling4
      @csnelling4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the coolant pressure is controlled by the “pressure relief valve” (PRV on an early video) not that type of rad. Cat cap😉

    • @rbmccloskey
      @rbmccloskey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check that the cooling system is obtaining AND maintaining it's design pressure. If it is not it will run hot. My 977L was running hot, I was told it needed a head gasket, a $2,500 repair, by a mechanic. I replaced a $12 radiator cap, problem solved.

  • @bigjim5723
    @bigjim5723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    congrats to hitting 200,000 subs. luving every video--thanks

  • @midgetrace
    @midgetrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend had a #6 about 50 years ago. We always referred to it as the Shovel Dozer.

  • @dianemcewen8922
    @dianemcewen8922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father worked for Rochester gauges who was a supplier to cat for all their gauges he used to call on them in the late 40s and 50s and bring souvenirs home for us .when there was fair or equipment show he would look to see whose gauges were on it.There is someone
    Making repro Rochester gauges.i think thermostats on the end have a mixture of wax and copper enclosed in copper which is heat sensitive and that goes bad.great vid ,really enjoy them and the dogs.mike

  • @tct855
    @tct855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and Big Bad John are the men! 👍👍 Thanx Thom...

  • @5fingers1
    @5fingers1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressed how fast it is

  • @rong-man1502
    @rong-man1502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This really a great piece of equipment. It’ll do just about anything needing to be done on a farm. Don’t know whether its still got the reliability for full time road construction work, but farm maintenance, ya boy!

  • @Dave-1277
    @Dave-1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is truly and inspiration. Really love seeing all of these rescue and recoveries! Great job and keep the content coming!

  • @twodrbenz
    @twodrbenz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome series! Saving these old machines is a worthy cause. Keep up the great work !!!

  • @jeroen1836
    @jeroen1836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will stick around! So please don’t let me wait to long 👍👊🤗

  • @Sundancer268
    @Sundancer268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    DO NOT use Copper Anti-Sieze any where near or on Aluminum, it will cause Galvanic Corrosion and you will be sorry down the road. Copper Anti-Sieze is great any where else, just not on Aluminum, please remove it and use the silver stuff. I keep both types in my shop and have had no issues since I learned this lesson the hard way.

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’ve seen other folks say this but the high solids copper/carbon stuff I use has been superb on stainless bolts into aluminium. Zero corrosion on stuff that was previously seized solid. That’s my experience. I make no claims for how or why it’s worked so well.

    • @iamthetarget52
      @iamthetarget52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you said that. I feel the same, no copper with aluminum.

    • @Sundancer268
      @Sundancer268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluejar5614 This is not my experience, when I got my Pick-up from my sister, she had just had new tires installed on the Aluminum Rims, 8-10 years later, I could not get the rims off without beating them with a long 2x4 and a 10# sledge Hammer. I found the shop had used Copper Anti-Seize on the hub assembly and it was seized to the rim. All four rims were like that to some degree or another. I have had similar issues with Copper Anti-Seize and Aluminum, just not as bad as the Pick-up as the parts were not in use as long. Maybe it is different where you are, but in Michigan, we use salt on the roads and that makes a good electrolyte to destroy parts. With the other formulations on steel & iron, I don't see the corrosion. Parts not coated, like fenders and other body parts are always rust damaged.

  • @Fatamus
    @Fatamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I wrote several articles on ACMOC regarding thermostats in the D318
    I found with a little bit of help they worked adequately. The Gates 33388 dose have a small 1/16" hole for a bypass in the seat C.; If you like one can drill an 1/8" hole in the lid of the valve to allow more coolant to bypass.Drill a hole mid way between seat and spring in lid so not to interfere with seat nor spring. Also the brass flange has a bit thinner OD at A. which can be made up by a thin o-ring to help center the thermostat in the housing. As well the brass fling at B. is 0.136 thinner and can also be made up by a thick o-ring to fill the gap - when torquing down housing be sure not to block bypass in seat with o-ring or gasket..
    Ooo the lower bypass .... lower part that controls the coolant bypass circuit .... after looking at the manual again I see what you mean. I'll keep doing some research and get back with you on that ..... so far i read the bypass circuit dose have a flow but a diminished flow after thermostats open. The coolant was not drained out of the thermostat housing so I did not get a look inside the housing. I did stick my finger around to see if there was a slot for the bottom of the OEM thermostats to set in but there was nothing of the sort.
    Thermostat p/n 5H957 (8T14759 - 8T14774 & 8T14776-up) later version of the 8F881-T which I believe has the part that controls the coolant bypass circuit in the housing 2H72491

    • @blairfright9622
      @blairfright9622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      After working on many diesel powered compressors I found that by removing the thermostats they will run hotter as the bypass circuit is not being used. This allows the coolant returning to rad a chance to drop temp before returning to cool motor. In other words you need the thermostats in place.

    • @Fatamus
      @Fatamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@blairfright9622 Yup, You are completely right. There are several styles of Thermostats housings (Cat calls them Regulators) even on the D318 in the same prefix e.g. 8T, D6. One of the main differences is when the thermostat opens the bypass circuit closes. That is the big brass ring moves in the way of the bypass opening in the same movement the circuit (valve) opens to the radiator.
      Another style housing (even on the D318) used the thermostat (5H0957 175*F) without the big brass ring and the bypass is regulated by a 1/16th" hole in the thermostat valve lid and/or an extra port on the side of the thermostat housing, mine is connected to the cab heater.
      Other Cats use different methods of bypassing so refer to your manual. You have to be careful and think about how things
      I was wrong when I thought the spring operated the opening of the thermostat valve. I found out on on ACMOC that the thermostat is actually operated via a gas inside the the brass bellows on the bottom of the thermostat that are sensitive to heat. These Thermostats have a little o-ring that can be replaced. The manual even shows how to make a tool to collapse the thermostat so you can replace the o-ring if the thermostat gets sticky and stays open.
      How the thermostats are to be tested is to suspend them in water and slowly bring up the heat and keep an eye on the temp.
      A 175°F thermostat should start opening at 166°F midway open at 175°F and wide open at 188°F.
      lots of reasons for over heating
      pony needs to be well purged,
      pony could have the wrong style intake manifold gaskets,
      pony and main engine water jackets could be restricted/plugged with sediment,
      Water Pump could need attention
      valve lash off
      injection timing off
      NORMALLY when you pull the thermostats an engine runs at a temp too cold to maintain proper temp and runs poorly.
      ALSO Depending on the way it is plumed it can also over heat if the thermostats are removed.

    • @blairfright9622
      @blairfright9622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you sir . Yes there are several factors that could be causing over heat condition as you mentioned , purge , plugged rad . But I think the logical choice is the thermostats.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for all the help Dan! Your thread on ACMOC regarding the thermostats on your motor grader with the D318 is the reason i purchased 2 Gates 33388 thermostats... i got one in the mail so far and i was curious, did you have to create any kind of shim or spacer to hold the newer Thermostats into the housing? Or did they just fit and you just installed the water neck? Also like you addressed, the newer gates dont have a block off for the bypass circuit, and so would i even need to drill a hole in the thermostats to get the engine to cool properly since the bypass will always be open? I am about 90% sure i DO have a large bypass channel in the thermostat housing, because i drained the compartment and could see it... ill prolly do that again on camera when i get back to dealing with the thermostats on the macine, and ill show it to you then!

    • @Fatamus
      @Fatamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SalvageWorkshop I am so glad you have consulted ACMOC. I have several health issues and am in lot of pain these days. I thought I had made a video on the thermostats (stat) but now I can not seem to find it online. I will redo and re-post the video. Sorry
      In short Yes, the Gates 33388 stat needs to be centered in the housing AND because the stat is thinner you will also need to secured it to the bottom of the stat hosing . I used a thick 1/4" x 3/8" cork gasket (I had from Harley project) on top of the stat to hold it into place. An 1/8" x ??id O-ring could also be used to hold the stat centered and secured.
      I should have the video up by morning.
      Good luck

  • @stumpy2816
    @stumpy2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy watching you work on these old historical machines. 👍👍

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, Salvage Workshop!

  • @mcfwelding
    @mcfwelding 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that thing is a beast! anti seize also works on gaskets like the grease you put on the water pump flanges

  • @GIITW.5OKC
    @GIITW.5OKC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like the end clips (digging) is the grown up equal to playing in the sand box with toys.

  • @bobbyblizzard8488
    @bobbyblizzard8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoying the series!

  • @oleukeman
    @oleukeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Probably not an abacus, more likely slide rules. Good job. Keep ‘em coming.

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Abacus sure sounded better....lol!

    • @corydriver7634
      @corydriver7634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalvageWorkshop 😂True. Not a word you use everyday?

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Down the road, you might even look into welding on some grousers for those flat track pads? It looks like that tractor was fashioned for a gravel pit or a loading yard originally?

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You hit the nail on the head... ill talk a bit more about who bought this machine new and what it was originally used for in an upcoming video! I spoke to Ed, the guy i got the machine from and he told me a bit more about it's history!

  • @TheLuapsch
    @TheLuapsch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredable work. Love watching you get these beauties back working instead of leaving them to rot.

  • @davidaylsworth8964
    @davidaylsworth8964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll join the chorus by saying I enjoy the multi-part projects. Interesting old machines.

  • @Discovery123.
    @Discovery123. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, I enjoy this so much.

  • @alfiversen7023
    @alfiversen7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are becoming a source. Of old Caterpillar content.
    I like this series

  • @youseetime
    @youseetime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed watching Big Bad John do his thing.

  • @harrykeel8557
    @harrykeel8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see an old Cat back running. Just love the sound of those old machines running.

  • @greggoin2232
    @greggoin2232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being a retired Operator the older machines have a grease fitting on the water pump itself. Love your Project!!!! Good luck!!

  • @huathai8204
    @huathai8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thermostat stuck open means no problems short terms but big problems long term. Replacing it with new one is required.

  • @ridleyscurry2480
    @ridleyscurry2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are like a little slice of home. Thank you

  • @johnking8679
    @johnking8679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, my friend !!

  • @bigone9678
    @bigone9678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome old iron rescue Matt. Learning alot from u

  • @greghoward6305
    @greghoward6305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool to see old work horses come back to life. It sure keeps you busy in the drivers seat.

  • @l0jack
    @l0jack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these old Cats. Working for a home builder in the late 70s as a teen I was fortunate to have the opportunity to run a 52 D2 dozer and a 49 D2 that had latch tripped bucket operated by a rope. I got to know the machine well as there was always s something to fix, pony motor repairs clutch replacement, track swapping, steering clutch adjustments etc. We also had a 1950 Cat 212 grader and a 1960 international ten wheel and 1958 six wheel dump truck, none of which were road worthy and were only used on the housing tracts. The best machine was our new 72 Cat 955K track loader. Yours looks to be a predecessor of the 977 loader which was a beast.

  • @jamestrump9593
    @jamestrump9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Bad John is almost as old as I am. I wish I still work that hard, Can't wait to see what other surprises you have in store for us.

  • @jamesjenkins81
    @jamesjenkins81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It looks like those thermostats are a "Controlled By-pass type". This means they must be fitted into the housing to prevent the cooling water by-passing back to the engine block, instead of going into the radiator to be cooled. IE - the water will take the path of least resistance.

  • @4GSR
    @4GSR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've enjoyed this series so good I think I'm going to go drag out my Tonka bulldozer and go play in the dirt pile! Much enjoyed! Thanks for sharing. Ken

  • @walterramirez797
    @walterramirez797 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impresionante reparación 😊

  • @christopherputland3640
    @christopherputland3640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proper vintage power. Well done for resurrecting it.

  • @richardwalters1803
    @richardwalters1803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems to me your having far more fun than usually allowed

    • @SalvageWorkshop
      @SalvageWorkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I LOVE this stuff! Finally running the machine is always the best part!

  • @joehuff7628
    @joehuff7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comment to help the channel, thank you for doing it.

  • @Colonel169
    @Colonel169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the videos and keep them coming!!! On a side note. When digging into soild pile of dirt like this. As your bucks starts to fill and you get close to the pile start raising the bucket as you move forward. Not only will you get a full full bucket. But it's also alot easier on your machine and all the joints on the arms

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're the first to notice that I've read so far. And you are right!

  • @johnboysantics7799
    @johnboysantics7799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That zerk on the water pump is suppose to get a parafin based grease and they usually get greased with regular grease and it plugs up the radiator. Have had that come up on multiple old machines I have worked on.

  • @nicktrask4717
    @nicktrask4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m loving it

  • @7waltster
    @7waltster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite impressed by how it dug!! Great machine. Thanks for gettin' her goin!!