Tom Lang takes you through some of VoiceLive 3's vocal effects, including the new Harmony Modes, Mixed Mode and Vocoder/Synth, as well as some edit menus.
I've just bought one. Great for live harmonies. Live performances have always been a drama when it comes to harmonies. Musicians come and go and along with them, backing vocals. I'm not the lead singer but now I can do all harmonies in any voicing I want just by singing lead along with the main singer (I don't send my lead vocal to PA). The result is absolutely fantastic. This is only possible due to the tremendous flexibility of Voice Live 3, including how you build harmonies up, the easy of storage and access and the various output choices.
@@robertlyle3806 I can’t remember the exact details as I haven’t used it in a while. But under each preset settings you have the option to adjust LEAD level. You can have it as low as zero.
This is looking better and better. I'm sold, vocally speaking. Awaiting the Guitar Closer Look for VL3, and hoping this will be as good of a live sound investment as I have been thinking so far!
I have to get one of these. Great video. Now we just need a box that can translate my language to another language, and make it rhyme. Some holographic backup singers would be cool too.
Hi Sam, sorry I can't reply to your linked comment. You've probably got replies turned off. We feel that the biggest factor in "real" (beyond the ears of the beholder) is the level of the effect. We tend to push the levels in demos, since folks complain when they're hard to hear on TH-cam etc. In practice, setting the levels more realistically can really help with the "natural" feel. Digitech makes different note output decisions than we do. I'd classify them as more dynamic, which can be read as "unpredictable" too. So, sometimes the DT unit will make a harmony we think is better than our choice, but then the next time it won't choose the same note, which can be frustrating. We go for a more set-in-stone output, so you can count on it, but if you don't like one of the notes it can be problematic. In VL3 you can create custom scales to get exactly the output you want. There's also a lot of depth to humanization and eq etc. to mess with as well.
Hello Tom, here is Lars from Germany! I like what you are doing! Very symphatic and well done! I You ever come to Germany, I like to spend a coffee or a beer, whatever you like! You are a great talent. Nice haircut! Like mine ;-)
There is a Roomsense option that's suppose to pick up the key of the song from a built in mic in VL, but I'm not sure how well it works. I run a bass signal in my my unit then manually change the key by hitting the root note of the key and holding the harmony button down for a couple seconds before the song starts. For minor key songs I use the relative major key for that minor. It's not the best but it seems to work and it's easier than hitting the harmony button and manually changing the key with the preset buttons. I may look closer at the roomsense and see how well that works. Good luck..
Hi Baz, the manual is a bit out of date, since we changed the way the MIDI menu is shown so it's simpler now. Essentially, you've got an input and output section for MIDI. The CC channel and MIDI channel are one in the same. If you're receiving MIDI and see the light on the VL3 screen, you know the channel is correct. Then, you're down to the filters. If you have any filters set, you might be filtering the PC's or CC's. Keep in mind that the filter parameter shows you what you're filtering OUT not what you're letting in.
TC-Helicon Hi again, I have the filters set to "None" in the MIDI menu. There are no filter setting in the Input or Output menus. I have Firmware Version 1.2.02 Build 187. This is so frustrating. It just don't work how it should do. I rely heavily on what the manual is telling me. Maybe my unit is not working properly or something else is amiss 8-( It is receiving the MIDI message but not changing anything. I have raised a ticket with support but until now received no reply. Could it be something specific to certain preset settings?
TC-Helicon Just as an FYI, the manual mentions a CC channel, but that's been removed and changed to a separate incoming and outgoing MIDI channel. You can't run separate PC and CC channels.
TC-Helicon I raised a ticket with James of Support and now I'm trying to use my Roland FC-300 to offload the guitar layer for control and use the two on-board expression pedals but it appears that I will only be able to do this via sysex which I'm looking into right now. Any advice is warmly welcome.
I got this unit recently, when i tried factory presets i didn't like it very much. But when we sat down with my audio engineer and built presets from scratch in a detailed way for every song, we were really satisfied with the product. The things we found missing was, firstly tc helicon should develop a software to edit the effects in the unit, since it's hard to do it by hand from the unit. There is a third party application and we use it for it, but why third party? Even their analog pedals can be configured from pc while their fx processors cant, it's interesting. Second, we use transducer a lot, but that effect is mostly used with mix of dry vocals, it would've been nice if there was a dry/wet or mix percentage option in that effect section. Third one is routing, there are some little options for it like delay mix for lead vocal or harmonies, but can't give delay to doubling etc. And lastly it would be nice if it had make-up gain in the compressor. Still i'm very satisfied with the product, but these updates will make this unit excellent. I hope we can see these futures in a firmware update maybe?
It would be awesome if the harmony scroll order would modulate around the circle of 5ths/4ths instead of chromatically so that you can move through keys in an order that would make musical sense (aka adding sharps or flats). This would be FAR a more useful tool for working musicians than the current system. Also the inclusion of more exotic scale options and church modes would be great. Props to TC for choosing harmonies of the non-diatonic pitches that work great in the harmonizer, btw!
+LFOVCF Yeah, that can definitely happen after a product has been available for a while. Purchase price doesn't affect warranty on a new unit, so go for the best price you can find from a dealer you trust.
Djam Music We don't have any plans to add per-preset EQ and compression settings. In a live environment, especially if you're moving from venue to venue, you are more likely to find yourself in a negative situation if you've got all sorts of EQ/comp settings throughout your presets than in a positive one. I can certainly see a FOH engineer that tours with a band having some specific settings for songs, but that's a level above what we want to offer. It's too easy for an average user to get into trouble with.
Hey folks, is it possible to just have 5 self made presets and quickly to go through them on the gig. That is what I need, not like 200 of them.. Is that possible ? Without too much interaction with a pedal ? :)
How about processing power on this new unit?Reason I'm asking is, this summer I used Voicelive Play GTX (white one) every night..First of all I noticed processing delay when I was using internal guitar processing (not going out thru) When it comes some acoustic soloing, you could literally feel that it wasn't coming out as you play, and it would threw me off on many occasions.. so I stopped using internal guitar processing and passing out from thru to my other processor.. I also noticed that when use "AutoTune Radio" when I move to next preset in the same song quickly, machine was not able to immediately quit the radio effect, sometimes looping was happening some weird stuff was happening. I was blaming on the not adequate processing power on the machine and maybe very heavy presets etc etc.. So I'm not sure if you acknowledge what I'm talking about and if you could put some input or comparison on the matter. We appreciate TC and great work being done. Thank you. Turk
I wonder how many of the new features can be backported to the VL Rack? I appreciate there may be some limitation but I'm guessing the DSPs have enough leg room. And btw, I must say, for studio work the VL Rack is such a good product in terms of ports and productivity... I'd say it's well undervalued and right now you can pick them up quite cheap.
***** We'd likely make a completely new Rack if it were to have VL3's features. There's a completely different underlying software system that would need to be implemented in order to bring VL3 features to the table.
Hi TC-Helicon.. This is a really cool pedal and I have watched a few introduction videos for it.. how ever I am playing a western guitar, a Yamaha cpx1000, and I would like to know if Voicelive 3 can emulate amplifiers spicificly made for that kind of guitar? Morten from Denmark
Sp3ctrum 30 Heya Morten, we don't simulate acoustic amps, but we do have BodyRez presets and amp styles that do a great job at getting rid of undersaddle pickup "quack" in acoustic guitars. The amp styles in VL3 are created with only the parameters you see in the box, so anything we've built could be done by a user. If you're into it, you could certainly spend time trying to get an approximation of your favorite amp.
where or how do I get that fixed and pedal harmony that he is singing in playing in a rock and roll band at the same time. Just got the product yesterday. This thing is so cool. I would like to find a harmony for the songs of the Eagles and the Doobie brothers. Any suggestions and far as setting that up?
I'd start with just setting up a couple of presets with different harmony voicings like "High", "Low", "High and Low" etc. and save them next to each other. Start experimenting with which voicings work best with the songs as-is and then start mucking about with adding a pedal voice etc. as you learn where the stock voices fit into things.
How do I turn off the guitar sound but keep it sensing chords? I want to use it with no guitar sounds from the guitar coming out. Right now I hear the guitar sound in addition to vocals from the main outputs.
Í have no time to study my voice live 3. All í want is to transmit the harmonies í do on keyboard thru midi. Manual is not helpful Í would be glad for Any advice Alfonso
When doing the vocal to match the chords played...how is it hooked up in the back of the unit? Struggling to figure that out. Where are the cords going. Mic, guitar, in and out etc...thanks in advance.
TC H, how would you generalize the overall product advantage over the VL2? I hear many people they are saying their VL2 would be nearly as capable with downloadable firmware? Is the expanded looper functionality a force multiplier? Could you do a video explaining how your other award-winning voice and guitar pedals are integrated into the VL3?
Hallo ! I do not find one important thing. I do not know how to set a different vocal volume in each preset, and guitars separately. This means, for example: Preset 1 - guitar at a volume level of 60%, vocal 65%. Preset 2 - guitar at a volume level of 80%, vocal 75%. This needs to be used when I want to use two or three different guitars during the concert, each having a different signal level. Just as when two or three singers want to sing, each with a different voice. I need to guarantee the same volume throughout the whole concert. I hope my question is understandable, my English is not good. Thank you for answer , Petr
If you go to the edit page for guitar or vocal and go all the way over to the right most tab called "preset" there's a trim control there. You can tweak the levels there. That said, using multiple guitars with VL3 is a bit of a weakness for the reason you mentioned. I've seen people run multiple guitars into a small mixer and then use the mixer to get all their levels even before heading off to the VL3. That is a bit of work but can help. Rest assured that we're addressing the concept of easily supporting multiple guitars in the next flagship product :)
Hi. I know the tc helicon play has roomsense microphone. Voicelive 3 didnt. Why? I play with the band. And in one song theres no guitar and in another there is no keys. So i cant plug in one of them to make harmony. And few song has a modulation …
Hello. Are the talkbox/vocoder effects comparable to the ones found on the "Talkbox Synth" and "VoiceTone Synth"? I really (really) like the sound of the Talkbox Synth. Also, can the VL3 do the equivalent of the Talkbox Synth's "Classic+" and "Modern+" settings by having the carrier signal and the vocoded robot voice play at the same time? If so, it is time for an upgrade.
i just bought an extreme. i have a problem. or im confused. i do not have any dry output from xlr 'voice - L mono' output when 'mono output' mode in setup menu is selected. What I mean is NO sound/signal can be heard when no effect is on. And activating an effect e.g delay or reverb or (it would seem) doubling etc, results in hearing only those wet output signals. This also occurs if the output mode is set to ‘stereo’, in this instance both left and right voice outputs only output fx wet signal.
THANK YOU . THERE IS A POSIBILITY THAT THE MACHINE IS FLEXIBLE AND ABLE TO recognize BETWEEN THE TONE For example : between C and D Bar 50 degrees down and 50 degrees up. Nor must any chord OR Early harmony In order to recognize A TH3 IF CHOSEN.WHAT HAPPNS IF SOMONE Do not know TO PLAY ? SO ,,,.?
Is it my imagination, or does the Voicelive 3 seem to sound a bit thinner, and seem to have less sonic depth than the Voicetone Harmony G-XT. Almost as if the G-XT is a bit more "analog"?
Hi Tom Lang i got a voicelive 3 and i wont start and im almost certain that it the SD card inside thai is the problem i have seen a lot of videoes here in youtube from others with the same problem i tryed to clean it no good Can you tell med if and how i get a new card vith data on it or shal i just trough a nice pedat that i paid over 5000 kr for in denmark out ????? I hope you can help me
Hi B; You mention at minute 7:30 or so, where you can plug a synthesizer into the Aux jack. I was wondering if that is from the headphone jack output or from the actual main output of the synth? In other words, the manual shows plugging an MP3 player into the Aux jack. That is typically a headphone level signal. I have both available. Please advise. Thanks.
Jeffrey Cranston The Aux in jack is set up to take devices like phones, HP outs and other line type level signals. That said, the mains from a keyboard work just fine. They tend to be closer to line level than mic.
I noticed when you did one of the vocal sounds (Lucy Skye) it says preset 51 and it says 1V Pedal & Fixed but that preset (#51) is actually called AC Two High? So where did you find or build this preset and how?
Hi Tom. Please let me now how to run guitar effects at same time as vocal effects. Also how in the world do I get my wha pedal to activate through VL3. Thank you!
Sounds great, love the new features. Just curious, will there be a rack version, or will I have to settle for the now-limited features of the current Voicelive Rack?
Does it allow the singer to shape vocals via equalization....harmony is great, etc...however, if you want to manipulate the tone of your vocals - can you shape it with this...I think you could with your first one...but the plane has gone from a 1 propeller engine to jet engines...lots of features but for me I like to adjust / shape of tone for certain songs - it would be nice to shape prior to playing a song vs post production...cheers...
Luca Montana You can use our adaptive Tone (EQ, Compression, De-Essing, Gating) or control things manually. Tone isn't adjustable per song. That's more of a studio thing than live. When you start messing with compression/EQ on a song-by-song basis in a live setup, you're opening yourself up to a feedback can of worms. Since the unit is designed predominantly as a live unit, we're comfortable with global controls for EQ etc.
Hi TC-Helicon, Is there a rack version of VoiceLive 3? If not, then please make it in rack mount, as I am studio guy. This is a request from your customer. I love all your products. especially harmony effects processors.
I've got a VL3X and nothing compares to it in terms of intelligent harmonies. I just wish there was a plugin version (i.e. successor to Harmony4) to help me arrange vocal harmonies in Logic. Yes, you can send stuff out to it via USB, but it's an awkward, drawn-out workflow. If there was a plugin version, the UI would open up so much flexibility.
Hello, great video!! Just bought one yesterday. I’ve been looking for a TC Helicon MP-76 to buy but they are discontinued and I cannot find a used one anywhere. Do you have a source that could get me one? Thank you, Gregg
The manufacturing/build needs improvement. I opened a voicelive 3 up today to address the white screen crash issue due to an internal SD card issue. Lots of tech in this pedal but zoom, boss, and roland etc make the internal mechanisms with more rugged standards that last a long time. This does boast a lot of great sounding effects though.
Control of the individual voices isn't available in Play. You can choose combinations of the voices through the styles but not tweak them to the level of the VL3.
I ordered one of these and had to send it back because it doesn't do MIDI sync for the looper. I use an RC300 for my looper and I needed the VL3 to sync to MIDI sync so that I could sync my vocals with my RC300 loops. But it doesn't do that. Too bad! The other features are great. Hopefully they'll fix that in a firmware upgrade soon.
Hey Larry, I was let down by the lack of MIDI Sync as well. I employ a similar setup with the RC-505. I'd love to set the tempo with the RC and switch over to the VL3 for guitar looping ( frees up my hands for guitar and saving the other tracks on RC-505 for further vocal/beatbox embellishment). It DOES look like MIDI sync is on their list of Features planned to implement via Firmware updates and has been mentioned by TC on a number of occasions, but this near from launch they are more focused on stomping bugs. You can read more here: support.tc-helicon.com/forums/21570831-VoiceLive-1-2-3 I went ahead and made the jump. I'll be greatly disappointed if MIDI sync doesn't happen soon, but the other features of the VL3 are impressive enough to still serve a purpose... Just a 'not fully realized' purpose quite yet. Cheers!
I really wanted to keep the unit. But the lack of MIDI sync (or MIDI clock) was a deal breaker for me. The sound and other features of the unit are great. These guys are missing the boat if they don't add the ability to sync with the RC300. Imagine being able to use the RC300 as the 'master' looper and then the VL3 for vocal loops that are independently controlled BUT REMAIN IN SYNC with the RC-300. I believe it would be a HUGE reason to get one of these boxes if they implement that feature. But - until then. I sent mine back. No thanks
Hi TC-Helicon. i have a voice live 3 pedal and the voice fx 150 but can not understand how to set them up properly to get a clear sound when using a guitar and mic. there are no videos to show how to set them up. can you make a video showing how to set them up to each other ? by the way great piece of gear
+Ben Ranger The simplest connection to FX150 is to use the headphone output on VL3 to the Aux input on FX150. That leaves the other two channels free on the FX150 for other inputs, like another mic.
amazing . I am thinking of using it in live shows. Can these effects be played in a particular order and trigerred off by a footswitch or software like Qlab or a Nanopad?
Alexander Wong All the effects can be controlled directly via the footswitches or by changing presets. There are MIDI CC's for on/off of each effect and if you're into the Sysex world, you can get access to pretty much any parameter in the box.
Please help man. I just want some instructions of how to solder the barrel plug to the other one. I need to make this device portable. Iv purchased a new psu for the vl3 i just need some instructions on how you do it
I would be interested in the sound of Dave Gahan , Depeche Mode . I think his vocal sound is similar from the 80ies until now and is THE signature-sound of depeche mode. How they do this?
It's tricky for us to describe specific sounds in text. Typically, we get people to ask on the forums, since replies there become public and others can use them. Maybe give it a shot over there and see if any users can give you hand. support.tc-helicon.com/hc/en-us/community/topics
Cool Stuff. Inspiring and motivating. What would be great - adding some simple to use multitrack recording 8-16 Tracks to USB-Stick not only Stereo Recording. And some Arrange-Functions for the Patterns/Tracks to built full songs and export as mp3 without computer. So we must not use computer and cubase / logic etc to record, all in one box. But at the moment i use a simple 8-Track Zoom R8 for that. Easy to use, not much functions, but it does what i want - press "record", and it records what i play/sing. But yep, great stuff as it is.
In order for us to do multi-channel USB audio, we need both hardware support internally (which VL3 can't do) but also a computer side driver (for PC's at least). It's something we'd love to bring to future products and we're definitely looking into it.
There's a TON to do with VL3 if you don't play an instrument. The only thing that's different (other than not using the guitar portion of the effects) is that you'd want to use a set key/scale when doing harmonies, instead of having it guided by guitar/keys. That's saveable in each preset, so you can set things up for each song you sing.
I've just bought one. Great for live harmonies.
Live performances have always been a drama when it comes to harmonies. Musicians come and go and along with them, backing vocals. I'm not the lead singer but now I can do all harmonies in any voicing I want just by singing lead along with the main singer (I don't send my lead vocal to PA). The result is absolutely fantastic. This is only possible due to the tremendous flexibility of Voice Live 3, including how you build harmonies up, the easy of storage and access and the various output choices.
How do you not send your lead vocal to the PA? Thx.
@@robertlyle3806 I can’t remember the exact details as I haven’t used it in a while. But under each preset settings you have the option to adjust LEAD level. You can have it as low as zero.
Where did y buy it at buddy? Can u point at? Link? Site???
@@jkinjazz hey Johnny. Sorry mate. It was over 6 years ago. Can’t remember. But I still use it and it’s great.
The better video about voicelive 3. Tom Lang is a great musician.
So good. I have two VL3X's. Full time musician. The most comprehensive unit ever. Love it.
This is looking better and better. I'm sold, vocally speaking. Awaiting the Guitar Closer Look for VL3, and hoping this will be as good of a live sound investment as I have been thinking so far!
Here you go! VoiceLive 3 - Closer Look - Guitar
I have to get one of these. Great video. Now we just need a box that can translate my language to another language, and make it rhyme. Some holographic backup singers would be cool too.
+egjanuary We're working on it! ;)
Hello Tom!
Thank you for your great videos! :)
love your voice
you helped me out a whole lot. I've had my voicelive3 for over a year and haven't really used it
Rickey Jones send it to me
My saxes and flute are lovin' the VoiceLive Play. Well done!
So glad to hear this Warren! keep on rocking and getting creative with it :)
Great video, informative and entertaining. What a fun job to demo this amazing pedal - love the robot samples! Cheers
I have the Voice Live 2...not sure if I can justify an new one yet, but GREAT product!!
Hi Sam, sorry I can't reply to your linked comment. You've probably got replies turned off.
We feel that the biggest factor in "real" (beyond the ears of the beholder) is the level of the effect. We tend to push the levels in demos, since folks complain when they're hard to hear on TH-cam etc. In practice, setting the levels more realistically can really help with the "natural" feel.
Digitech makes different note output decisions than we do. I'd classify them as more dynamic, which can be read as "unpredictable" too. So, sometimes the DT unit will make a harmony we think is better than our choice, but then the next time it won't choose the same note, which can be frustrating. We go for a more set-in-stone output, so you can count on it, but if you don't like one of the notes it can be problematic. In VL3 you can create custom scales to get exactly the output you want. There's also a lot of depth to humanization and eq etc. to mess with as well.
TC HELICON 9
Iv never had any idea during the 90s that technology would bring such useful equipment for music making OMG
Another great video TC. Tom and Craig rock. BTW , lovin' my 3. So glad I upgraded from the 2.
Excellent video,well explained. Thank you
Hello Tom, here is Lars from Germany! I like what you are doing! Very symphatic and well done! I You ever come to Germany, I like to spend a coffee or a beer, whatever you like! You are a great talent. Nice haircut! Like mine ;-)
" I guess there will be a lot of unemployed back up singers"
ha
As a singing bassist, I feel this oughta be better with an additional bass mode. Harmonies that can follow just a bass note vs guitar chords.
There is a Roomsense option that's suppose to pick up the key of the song from a built in mic in VL, but I'm not sure how well it works. I run a bass signal in my my unit then manually change the key by hitting the root note of the key and holding the harmony button down for a couple seconds before the song starts. For minor key songs I use the relative major key for that minor. It's not the best but it seems to work and it's easier than hitting the harmony button and manually changing the key with the preset buttons. I may look closer at the roomsense and see how well that works. Good luck..
Why are there no videos about setting up the microphone? It’s crazy nobody talks about this.
In what way for the setup? Like doing the gain or physical setup like positioning etc?
@@tchelicon yes please
Najbolji procesor. Pozdrav iz Bosne i Hercegovine
Hi Baz, the manual is a bit out of date, since we changed the way the MIDI menu is shown so it's simpler now.
Essentially, you've got an input and output section for MIDI. The CC channel and MIDI channel are one in the same. If you're receiving MIDI and see the light on the VL3 screen, you know the channel is correct. Then, you're down to the filters. If you have any filters set, you might be filtering the PC's or CC's. Keep in mind that the filter parameter shows you what you're filtering OUT not what you're letting in.
TC-Helicon Hi again, I have the filters set to "None" in the MIDI menu. There are no filter setting in the Input or Output menus. I have Firmware Version 1.2.02 Build 187. This is so frustrating. It just don't work how it should do. I rely heavily on what the manual is telling me. Maybe my unit is not working properly or something else is amiss 8-( It is receiving the MIDI message but not changing anything. I have raised a ticket with support but until now received no reply. Could it be something specific to certain preset settings?
Baz Axe Hi Baz, what specifically are you trying to control?
TC-Helicon Just as an FYI, the manual mentions a CC channel, but that's been removed and changed to a separate incoming and outgoing MIDI channel. You can't run separate PC and CC channels.
TC-Helicon I raised a ticket with James of Support and now I'm trying to use my Roland FC-300 to offload the guitar layer for control and use the two on-board expression pedals but it appears that I will only be able to do this via sysex which I'm looking into right now. Any advice is warmly welcome.
TC-Helicon _hello,are you using compression while demonstrating? or is the mic direct to a mixer...
Bloody amazing!
I got this unit recently, when i tried factory presets i didn't like it very much. But when we sat down with my audio engineer and built presets from scratch in a detailed way for every song, we were really satisfied with the product. The things we found missing was, firstly tc helicon should develop a software to edit the effects in the unit, since it's hard to do it by hand from the unit. There is a third party application and we use it for it, but why third party? Even their analog pedals can be configured from pc while their fx processors cant, it's interesting. Second, we use transducer a lot, but that effect is mostly used with mix of dry vocals, it would've been nice if there was a dry/wet or mix percentage option in that effect section. Third one is routing, there are some little options for it like delay mix for lead vocal or harmonies, but can't give delay to doubling etc. And lastly it would be nice if it had make-up gain in the compressor. Still i'm very satisfied with the product, but these updates will make this unit excellent. I hope we can see these futures in a firmware update maybe?
Just received my VoiceLive 3 today from Amazon but sadly neither the Guitar/Headphone or USB cable were in the box.
Hopefully they'll send them to me.
excellent product.excellent.
It would be awesome if the harmony scroll order would modulate around the circle of 5ths/4ths instead of chromatically so that you can move through keys in an order that would make musical sense (aka adding sharps or flats). This would be FAR a more useful tool for working musicians than the current system. Also the inclusion of more exotic scale options and church modes would be great. Props to TC for choosing harmonies of the non-diatonic pitches that work great in the harmonizer, btw!
Salivating!
Great demo!
Rather oddly, the prices for this are all over the place, £350-589!
+LFOVCF Yeah, that can definitely happen after a product has been available for a while. Purchase price doesn't affect warranty on a new unit, so go for the best price you can find from a dealer you trust.
Excellent Video Tom, By the way do you know if you can use an audio Instrumental to track the pitch?
Well done Tom, another outstanding demo. Getting to know my VL3 at the moment and still using the VL2 fro my gigs.
Cool! I got the Harmony-M. But I think I got to get one of these.
And Tom Lang kind of looks like John Malkovich when in profile! ::)
WOW!!! Very cool ..Very interesting..
I have VL2 and was waiting for Eq and Compon VL3...but No eq no compressor on presets? amazing the basic fx for vocals!!!
Maybe in VL4 :-)
Djam Music We don't have any plans to add per-preset EQ and compression settings. In a live environment, especially if you're moving from venue to venue, you are more likely to find yourself in a negative situation if you've got all sorts of EQ/comp settings throughout your presets than in a positive one. I can certainly see a FOH engineer that tours with a band having some specific settings for songs, but that's a level above what we want to offer. It's too easy for an average user to get into trouble with.
There is not stereo input left and right for Keyboard player arranger or workstation.
Hey folks, is it possible to just have 5 self made presets and quickly to go through them on the gig. That is what I need, not like 200 of them.. Is that possible ? Without too much interaction with a pedal ? :)
How about processing power on this new unit?Reason I'm asking is, this summer I used Voicelive Play GTX (white one) every night..First of all I noticed processing delay when I was using internal guitar processing (not going out thru) When it comes some acoustic soloing, you could literally feel that it wasn't coming out as you play, and it would threw me off on many occasions.. so I stopped using internal guitar processing and passing out from thru to my other processor.. I also noticed that when use "AutoTune Radio" when I move to next preset in the same song quickly, machine was not able to immediately quit the radio effect, sometimes looping was happening some weird stuff was happening. I was blaming on the not adequate processing power on the machine and maybe very heavy presets etc etc.. So I'm not sure if you acknowledge what I'm talking about and if you could put some input or comparison on the matter. We appreciate TC and great work being done. Thank you. Turk
Mixing the Fixed and Pedal harmony effects sounds great Tom, I can definitely hear enhanced improvement with the VL3.
I have been saving up to get a Voice Live Touch 2 but now I see the VoiceLive 3.... is there a VoiceLive Touch 3 coming out? What should I get?
im getting this for sure
Great video, i saw a someone map the tap tempo for delay, on the "step" button... how can i do that? i have the voicelive 3 extreme
I wonder how many of the new features can be backported to the VL Rack? I appreciate there may be some limitation but I'm guessing the DSPs have enough leg room.
And btw, I must say, for studio work the VL Rack is such a good product in terms of ports and productivity... I'd say it's well undervalued and right now you can pick them up quite cheap.
***** We'd likely make a completely new Rack if it were to have VL3's features. There's a completely different underlying software system that would need to be implemented in order to bring VL3 features to the table.
Which is better tc Helicon Acoustic play or this ?
Please provide more and longer examples. These were great, but just too short to determine the value.
Give this video a shot. Lots of folks seem to really like it as a demo: th-cam.com/video/5medMsuso64/w-d-xo.html
where can I find the NP SYNTH2 and SYNTH SCALE HRM presets on the Extreme 3?
Hi TC-Helicon.. This is a really cool pedal and I have watched a few introduction videos for it.. how ever I am playing a western guitar, a Yamaha cpx1000, and I would like to know if Voicelive 3 can emulate amplifiers spicificly made for that kind of guitar? Morten from Denmark
Sp3ctrum 30 Heya Morten, we don't simulate acoustic amps, but we do have BodyRez presets and amp styles that do a great job at getting rid of undersaddle pickup "quack" in acoustic guitars. The amp styles in VL3 are created with only the parameters you see in the box, so anything we've built could be done by a user. If you're into it, you could certainly spend time trying to get an approximation of your favorite amp.
where or how do I get that fixed and pedal harmony that he is singing in playing in a rock and roll band at the same time. Just got the product yesterday. This thing is so cool. I would like to find a harmony for the songs of the Eagles and the Doobie brothers. Any suggestions and far as setting that up?
I'd start with just setting up a couple of presets with different harmony voicings like "High", "Low", "High and Low" etc. and save them next to each other. Start experimenting with which voicings work best with the songs as-is and then start mucking about with adding a pedal voice etc. as you learn where the stock voices fit into things.
How do I turn off the guitar sound but keep it sensing chords? I want to use it with no guitar sounds from the guitar coming out. Right now I hear the guitar sound in addition to vocals from the main outputs.
Í have no time to study my voice live 3. All í want is to transmit the harmonies í do on keyboard thru midi. Manual is not helpful
Í would be glad for Any advice
Alfonso
How about the guitar effects demo? And pictures? Planning to have one soon if the gtr effects is nice also!
Just put it out today: VoiceLive 3 - Closer Look - Guitar
When doing the vocal to match the chords played...how is it hooked up in the back of the unit? Struggling to figure that out. Where are the cords going. Mic, guitar, in and out etc...thanks in advance.
TC H, how would you generalize the overall product advantage over the VL2? I hear many people they are saying their VL2 would be nearly as capable with downloadable firmware? Is the expanded looper functionality a force multiplier?
Could you do a video explaining how your other award-winning voice and guitar pedals are integrated into the VL3?
Hallo ! I do not find one important thing. I do not know how to set a different vocal volume in each preset, and guitars separately. This means, for example: Preset 1 - guitar at a volume level of 60%, vocal 65%. Preset 2 - guitar at a volume level of 80%, vocal 75%. This needs to be used when I want to use two or three different guitars during the concert, each having a different signal level. Just as when two or three singers want to sing, each with a different voice. I need to guarantee the same volume throughout the whole concert.
I hope my question is understandable, my English is not good.
Thank you for answer , Petr
If you go to the edit page for guitar or vocal and go all the way over to the right most tab called "preset" there's a trim control there. You can tweak the levels there. That said, using multiple guitars with VL3 is a bit of a weakness for the reason you mentioned. I've seen people run multiple guitars into a small mixer and then use the mixer to get all their levels even before heading off to the VL3. That is a bit of work but can help.
Rest assured that we're addressing the concept of easily supporting multiple guitars in the next flagship product :)
Hi. I know the tc helicon play has roomsense microphone. Voicelive 3 didnt. Why?
I play with the band. And in one song theres no guitar and in another there is no keys.
So i cant plug in one of them to make harmony. And few song has a modulation …
Hello. Are the talkbox/vocoder effects comparable to the ones found on the "Talkbox Synth" and "VoiceTone Synth"? I really (really) like the sound of the Talkbox Synth. Also, can the VL3 do the equivalent of the Talkbox Synth's "Classic+" and "Modern+" settings by having the carrier signal and the vocoded robot voice play at the same time? If so, it is time for an upgrade.
can the machine also be triggered by keyboard chords insted of guitarchords? So can i connect my keyboard on it? Thnx grts frm Belgium
Yes
i just bought an extreme. i have a problem. or im confused.
i do not have any dry output from xlr 'voice - L mono' output when 'mono output' mode in setup menu is selected. What I mean is NO sound/signal can be heard when no effect is on. And activating an effect e.g delay or reverb or (it would seem) doubling etc, results in hearing only those wet output signals. This also occurs if the output mode is set to ‘stereo’, in this instance both left and right voice outputs only output fx wet signal.
You can have dry outpun on ‘mono output’ R line. And dont forget to change R output from guitar to vocal. Hope it helps!
THANK YOU . THERE IS A POSIBILITY THAT
THE MACHINE IS FLEXIBLE AND ABLE TO recognize BETWEEN THE TONE
For example : between C and D Bar 50 degrees down and 50 degrees up. Nor must any chord OR Early harmony In order to recognize A TH3 IF CHOSEN.WHAT HAPPNS IF SOMONE Do not know TO PLAY ? SO ,,,.?
+רפאל ונונו Whenever you tip over from 49 cents to 50 cents it'll go to the next chromatic note. We don't support tones between western chromatic.
+TC-Helicon THANK YOU
Great demo Tom
Is it my imagination, or does the Voicelive 3 seem to sound a bit thinner, and seem to have less sonic depth than the Voicetone Harmony G-XT. Almost as if the G-XT is a bit more "analog"?
Hi Tom Lang
i got a voicelive 3 and i wont start and im almost certain that it the SD card inside thai is the problem
i have seen a lot of videoes here in youtube from others with the same problem i tryed to clean it no good
Can you tell med if and how i get a new card vith data on it or shal i just trough a nice pedat that i paid over 5000 kr for in denmark out ?????
I hope you can help me
Hi B; You mention at minute 7:30 or so, where you can plug a synthesizer into the Aux jack. I was wondering if that is from the headphone jack output or from the actual main output of the synth? In other words, the manual shows plugging an MP3 player into the Aux jack. That is typically a headphone level signal. I have both available. Please advise. Thanks.
Jeffrey Cranston The Aux in jack is set up to take devices like phones, HP outs and other line type level signals. That said, the mains from a keyboard work just fine. They tend to be closer to line level than mic.
Thanks!
OK thanks for the answer
I wish there was a really easy way to switch between effects so that I could for example do one synth line instead of singing the full song like that
I’ve just bought one too. Question: How do you adjust the vocal EQ?
his voice is soooo good
I noticed when you did one of the vocal sounds (Lucy Skye) it says preset 51 and it says 1V Pedal & Fixed but that preset (#51) is actually called AC Two High? So where did you find or build this preset and how?
I want one!
Hi Tom. Please let me now how to run guitar effects at same time as vocal effects. Also how in the world do I get my wha pedal to activate through VL3. Thank you!
great demo!
Sounds great, love the new features.
Just curious, will there be a rack version, or will I have to settle for the now-limited features of the current Voicelive Rack?
Hi Oculus, I'm not sure if we'll make a Rack version of VL3. It could be a neat idea for sure!
There are a lot of bugs in this equipment and usually I need to pray before every concert to not match the white screen or freeze the VL3X.
Problemática?
Does it allow the singer to shape vocals via equalization....harmony is great, etc...however, if you want to manipulate the tone of your vocals - can you shape it with this...I think you could with your first one...but the plane has gone from a 1 propeller engine to jet engines...lots of features but for me I like to adjust / shape of tone for certain songs - it would be nice to shape prior to playing a song vs post production...cheers...
Luca Montana You can use our adaptive Tone (EQ, Compression, De-Essing, Gating) or control things manually. Tone isn't adjustable per song. That's more of a studio thing than live. When you start messing with compression/EQ on a song-by-song basis in a live setup, you're opening yourself up to a feedback can of worms. Since the unit is designed predominantly as a live unit, we're comfortable with global controls for EQ etc.
Hi TC-Helicon,
Is there a rack version of VoiceLive 3?
If not, then please make it in rack mount, as I am studio guy. This is a request from your customer.
I love all your products. especially harmony effects processors.
And a pink one for me, because I like pink a lot.
I've got a VL3X and nothing compares to it in terms of intelligent harmonies. I just wish there was a plugin version (i.e. successor to Harmony4) to help me arrange vocal harmonies in Logic. Yes, you can send stuff out to it via USB, but it's an awkward, drawn-out workflow. If there was a plugin version, the UI would open up so much flexibility.
Hey @noisyneil! Completely agreed, that would be a wonderful addition! Thanks for your feedback, happy singing :)
Hello, great video!! Just bought one yesterday. I’ve been looking for a TC Helicon MP-76 to buy but they are discontinued and I cannot find a used one anywhere. Do you have a source that could get me one? Thank you, Gregg
The manufacturing/build needs improvement. I opened a voicelive 3 up today to address the white screen crash issue due to an internal SD card issue. Lots of tech in this pedal but zoom, boss, and roland etc make the internal mechanisms with more rugged standards that last a long time. This does boast a lot of great sounding effects though.
I have the same problem.
TC-Helicon, are the harmony mixing vocal modes as featured here in the Voicelive 3 also available in the Voicelive Play? Thanks!
Control of the individual voices isn't available in Play. You can choose combinations of the voices through the styles but not tweak them to the level of the VL3.
Deciding on this or the Touchlive 2 mostly for vocals - what do you think?
I ordered one of these and had to send it back because it doesn't do MIDI sync for the looper. I use an RC300 for my looper and I needed the VL3 to sync to MIDI sync so that I could sync my vocals with my RC300 loops. But it doesn't do that. Too bad! The other features are great. Hopefully they'll fix that in a firmware upgrade soon.
Hey Larry,
I was let down by the lack of MIDI Sync as well. I employ a similar setup with the RC-505. I'd love to set the tempo with the RC and switch over to the VL3 for guitar looping ( frees up my hands for guitar and saving the other tracks on RC-505 for further vocal/beatbox embellishment).
It DOES look like MIDI sync is on their list of Features planned to implement via Firmware updates and has been mentioned by TC on a number of occasions, but this near from launch they are more focused on stomping bugs. You can read more here: support.tc-helicon.com/forums/21570831-VoiceLive-1-2-3
I went ahead and made the jump. I'll be greatly disappointed if MIDI sync doesn't happen soon, but the other features of the VL3 are impressive enough to still serve a purpose... Just a 'not fully realized' purpose quite yet.
Cheers!
I really wanted to keep the unit. But the lack of MIDI sync (or MIDI clock) was a deal breaker for me.
The sound and other features of the unit are great. These guys are missing the boat if they don't add the ability to sync with the RC300.
Imagine being able to use the RC300 as the 'master' looper and then the VL3 for vocal loops that are independently controlled BUT REMAIN IN SYNC with the RC-300.
I believe it would be a HUGE reason to get one of these boxes if they implement that feature.
But - until then. I sent mine back. No thanks
I sync mine to midi clock
It doesn’t generate clock though, although I may not be on the latest software..
I Want it !!!!!!!!!!
Please sing BEDS ARE BURNING !! By midnight old... only music heads will get that request! Cheers mate .. great review
Can you do 5 harmonies at once? Chose the harmonies? Like 3 7 9 11 only?
How are you
Expression pedal how should choose
Can it be used for vocals without playing an instrument?
Hi TC-Helicon. i have a voice live 3 pedal and the voice fx 150 but can not understand how to set them up properly to get a clear sound when using a guitar and mic. there are no videos to show how to set them up. can you make a video showing how to set them up to each other ? by the way great piece of gear
+Ben Ranger The simplest connection to FX150 is to use the headphone output on VL3 to the Aux input on FX150. That leaves the other two channels free on the FX150 for other inputs, like another mic.
This is an awesome system. I do wish it could be a little more affordable however.
amazing . I am thinking of using it in live shows. Can these effects be played in a particular order and trigerred off by a footswitch or software like Qlab or a Nanopad?
Alexander Wong All the effects can be controlled directly via the footswitches or by changing presets. There are MIDI CC's for on/off of each effect and if you're into the Sysex world, you can get access to pretty much any parameter in the box.
in this modern age, why cant i connect a usb cable between my vl3 and a smart phone/tablet and record live video and audio via the onboard camera.?
Please help man. I just want some instructions of how to solder the barrel plug to the other one. I need to make this device portable. Iv purchased a new psu for the vl3 i just need some instructions on how you do it
I would be interested in the sound of Dave Gahan , Depeche Mode . I think his vocal sound is similar from the 80ies until now and is THE signature-sound of depeche mode. How they do this?
It's tricky for us to describe specific sounds in text. Typically, we get people to ask on the forums, since replies there become public and others can use them. Maybe give it a shot over there and see if any users can give you hand.
support.tc-helicon.com/hc/en-us/community/topics
Does it work/sound good for a finger style guitar player?
Cool Stuff. Inspiring and motivating.
What would be great - adding some simple to use multitrack recording 8-16 Tracks to USB-Stick not only Stereo Recording.
And some Arrange-Functions for the Patterns/Tracks to built full songs and export as mp3 without computer.
So we must not use computer and cubase / logic etc to record, all in one box.
But at the moment i use a simple 8-Track Zoom R8 for that.
Easy to use, not much functions, but it does what i want - press "record", and it records what i play/sing.
But yep, great stuff as it is.
In order for us to do multi-channel USB audio, we need both hardware support internally (which VL3 can't do) but also a computer side driver (for PC's at least). It's something we'd love to bring to future products and we're definitely looking into it.
I've often though about getting one of these, they sound terrific...but if you cant play the guitar or keyboard I guess you cant do much with it....
There's a TON to do with VL3 if you don't play an instrument. The only thing that's different (other than not using the guitar portion of the effects) is that you'd want to use a set key/scale when doing harmonies, instead of having it guided by guitar/keys. That's saveable in each preset, so you can set things up for each song you sing.
can I plug a synthesizer into it
Hello. Tell me please. VOICELIVE 3 EXTREME surpasses VOICELIVE 2 by a lot in terms of vocal effects and their quality
Hey guys, how about voice compressor inside TC Helicon 3? i've bought it a few days ago, but didnt find it inside...
so if you are just a singer, do you have to connect this to your guitar player? can't you just use it for singing?
thanks, fantastic
amazing!
Can I also use it with an electric ukulele?
Please Please Please! Tell me a rack version is coming?