Batman Return to Arkham PS4/Pro Patch 1.02: Good News and Bad News

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  • Return to Arkham is finally much closer to the game we hoped it would be at launch - on base PS4 hardware. Unfortunately, PS4 Pro support is still a mess. Some might even say it's got worse compared to 1.01.
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  • @HannibalBarca93
    @HannibalBarca93 7 ปีที่แล้ว +578

    Everyone blaming the Pro for the bad performance when its the developers fault for not trying harder. Look at how square enix put 3 different options for Tomb Raider. A lot of developers don't want to spend time on the ps4 pro.

    • @evertonjames123
      @evertonjames123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      exactly, and the ones running worse seem to be ones already released and forgotten! why would a developer spend time on a game that wont be bringing them any decent amount of revenue. the games that need to run better like bf1 are running better on the pro. and im sure we will see newly released games also running better.

    • @frijolitodr
      @frijolitodr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hannibal Barca I agree to the both of you

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Exactly! The Rise of The Tomb Raider is still the best example of how to support PS4 Pro properly. It gives not only one but two different options to the player to choose from how to utilize the system's extra power. That's how it's done. If I were in the Sony management I'd make this mandatory for all games that are on PS4 or at least for the games that have PS4 Pro patch and all upcoming PS4 games. They are already bullying developers left and right, why not apply something useful and pro-consumer rules for a change?

    • @aidinkelki2441
      @aidinkelki2441 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Why would they??! this mid gen upgrade is stupid and completely ruins the console existence essence

    • @frijolitodr
      @frijolitodr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MadFinnTech do feel that most of the new onss will use the Pro system more properly

  • @DJ_Dopamine
    @DJ_Dopamine 7 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    It promises improved visuals for the PS4 Pro... but there are none. Great.

    • @rankcolour8780
      @rankcolour8780 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Playing Videogames my ps4 pro would melt trying to run this at 4k, it just isn't not anything like powerful enough. Wish I'd gone with the standard ps4...

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I know. In the video it said they (the devs) were promising improved visuals for this patch.
      But DF stated that they cannot find any improvement over the base PS4 version.
      The additional shadows are also in the base PS4 patch.

    • @varshithjackson
      @varshithjackson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Greatness awaits remember? Looks like Sony is also waiting on it :p

    • @rankcolour8780
      @rankcolour8780 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *****
      Devs aren't magicians, if the hardware is shit, the end result with be shitty despit all the optimisation in the world. The ps4 pro tomb raider version is lauded but the end result is average at best and there is nothing more to squueze from it.

    • @elrey1717
      @elrey1717 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sherriff Brown they can do it if they whant, skyrim is a bigger game and its have 4k resolucion on ps4 pro, i have it and it looks amazing. but the programers have to work more.horizon right now is runing at 1800p and have more graphics than batman.

  • @cosmocalypse3708
    @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +416

    There's no excuse for 30 fps in this game. A potato GPU played this game at 60+ fps several years ago.

    • @cosmocalypse3708
      @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Gaming and Music Trash So? We have much better looking games running at 60 fps. There's still no excuse for this.

    • @cosmocalypse3708
      @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Gaming and Music Trash I never blamed the console

    • @cosmocalypse3708
      @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Pauls Stay in school, kid.

    • @cosmocalypse3708
      @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Pauls Excellent retort, kid. Stay in school.

    • @cosmocalypse3708
      @cosmocalypse3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pauls Why are you getting so emotional, kid? And why are you defending this lazy "remaster?"

  • @Squishmallows24
    @Squishmallows24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Sadly the FPS was locked to 30. Would had ran perfect at 60 on a ps5

    • @you_commentbackyourmomahoe
      @you_commentbackyourmomahoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just don't update the game you'll get 60 fps

    • @kalebv1161
      @kalebv1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@you_commentbackyourmomahoe only works on disc :/

    • @you_commentbackyourmomahoe
      @you_commentbackyourmomahoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kalebv1161 yes iam sorry that i didn't mention it

    • @user-fj9ye3xz6c
      @user-fj9ye3xz6c ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here is a rule: consoles will never offer what we want. If it was on pc, just as powerful as ps4 pro, just reduce the resolution and what ever unnecessary setting and that's it you have above 40 at less

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kalebv1161 always buy disc! at least if you dont like the game you can sell it. Digital is just a license you dont actually own it, god forbid your account gets hack or ban that means you’ll lose all you games!

  • @rez9914
    @rez9914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    if infamous second son and god of war can run at 40-50fps or even 60fps, then i don't understand why a game from 2012 can't run at nearly 60fps

    • @BeexDubb
      @BeexDubb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rez This is why I wont buy this game, they shit the bed on this port.

    • @Jabba094
      @Jabba094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Infamous and god of war are ps exclusive so it’s easier for those developers to work on PS4 hardware rather than those working on 3 different platforms

    • @JonathanPaspula
      @JonathanPaspula 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jabba094 while that would be true, this game is literally from a previous generation, it’s not graphically demanding for the PS4 at all and they should be able to manage a 60 FPS mode

    • @secondaccounta320
      @secondaccounta320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanPaspula Yeah but this game running on UE4 which struggles a lot on last gen consoles jaguar cpu plus god of war nor infamous runs at 40/50 sometimes sees 40 but usually 30/35

    • @AZITHEMLGPRO
      @AZITHEMLGPRO ปีที่แล้ว

      Unoptimized

  • @y-stylzz
    @y-stylzz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Bringing these games from the modified Unreal Engine 3 to Unreal Engine 4 and changing the look of the game are some very stupid decisions. All they really had to do was releasing the PC versions on consoles in native 1080p and 60fps on the highest settings, and maybe improve some textures here and there. That would have been perfect, but they had to go the bullshit route. Sad, really. :(

    • @Agus_Lombax
      @Agus_Lombax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely agree with your opinion.

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was to give them more development options, specifically to better the lighting and such. But... it's debatable whether it was worth it.

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what looks are stupid and look bad exactly?

  • @kodemasterx
    @kodemasterx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    30fps
    no PhysX
    new Textures that ruin the original theme of the game
    is this an upgrade or downgrade?

    • @Objectorbit
      @Objectorbit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GPU PhysX effects are an nVidia thing so legally they can't. At best, you can use it as a general physics engine like so many others, but the special shit's locked behind legal agreements.

    • @harkinsteven
      @harkinsteven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not true. There have been a some games that AMD could run GPU physx. Borderlands for one. But it tends to run very poorly.

    • @paulbarnes755
      @paulbarnes755 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      kodemasterx 30 frames per second more cinematic 😂 😂

    • @erdincylmaz2842
      @erdincylmaz2842 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      that physx run by cpu not gpu. because of it it is poor.

    • @psndude101
      @psndude101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They only just got shadows lmao!

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Absolutely terrible port. This game ran at 60fps on PCs in 2008, and the modest upgrades they've added shouldn't be that much of a problem.

    • @DanTheMan33088
      @DanTheMan33088 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Bluepoint is awesome when it comes to remasters

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nukleon . It's more than modest updating. There's certain updates that just can't run well on the consoles. However, They'd been better off porting the PC version over and tweaking it to run well on the consoles. You'd at least get a locked full 1080p on the base consoles, and maybe higher frame rates, especially on the pro model.

  • @martianmanhunter8219
    @martianmanhunter8219 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    wow a steady 30FPS is an achievement for ps4 on a 2011 game

    • @dwijanuar3279
      @dwijanuar3279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      it's the developer not ps4.

    • @88Enon
      @88Enon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      tell that to r7 250 who can run that game on high

  • @unixpert321
    @unixpert321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Is it so hard to put a fps cap on launch?

  • @noblealfred5010
    @noblealfred5010 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blue on blue graph is kind of hard to pick out unless fullscreen, next time little more contrasting colours please.

  • @TheAznPixel
    @TheAznPixel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Always some good and bad news with any new ps4 pro update :/

    • @dsidsidsi1000
      @dsidsidsi1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Logmetech just bad news

  • @malbhet
    @malbhet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Batman Return to Arkham was nothing more than a cash grab by WB.

    • @wayge
      @wayge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      everything WB makes is a cash grab

    • @wayge
      @wayge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah i played some mad max and it was fun. il give them that. as for their super hero games...well..

    • @bootis32
      @bootis32 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you're saying this remastered is a cash grab but what about other remastered. Are they cash grab as well?

    • @malbhet
      @malbhet 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Justin Murphy YES! Some of the remasters are welcomed, but others are not. GOW3 remaster was another cash grab, hell that damn thing wasn't even a remaster. It was nothing but a straight port, and WB, Ubi, and Capcom are doing the same damn thing.
      The only remasters I want to see are remasters of RDR and LoD (Legend of Dragoon).

    • @n0vembr86
      @n0vembr86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least GoW3 Remaster ran at 60fps. This game couldn't even get that right.

  • @what9681
    @what9681 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So in summary: avoid any remaster that Virtuos works on. This is the same team that screwed up the Heavy Rain remaster and didn't even include The Taxidermist dlc for that remaster rofl. Virtuos is just a shitty, cheap Chinese developer who's employees probably work for like $2 an hour.

  • @ChrisWTube
    @ChrisWTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If the physical version is compatible on PS5 and Series X, do you think it will be possible to run City, unpatched at a locked 60fps?

    • @trza49er
      @trza49er ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This guy knew.

  • @antgue756
    @antgue756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would really like to see how the ps5 runs the game on the first patch cause we might be able to play at a locked 60

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean unpatched or version 1.00 or version 1.01?

    • @ahsanvirk130
      @ahsanvirk130 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can play the game at 60 fps on the PS5 without updating it, but according to some, the game is subject to crashing at random intervals

  • @microsista1413
    @microsista1413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    below 1080p on "4k" machine xD

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually played Arkham Asylum and Arkham City on PC 4K 60 fps with NVIDIA effects ON! Almost TWO years ago!

    • @SeanBarkerNegaScott128
      @SeanBarkerNegaScott128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      > Arkham Knight runs like shit on PC
      "The devs were lazy!"
      > Arkham City runs at 1080p on Pro, even though the vast majority of games run at higher resolutions
      "LOL PS4 PRO IS SHIT"

    • @salamanderpants4139
      @salamanderpants4139 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And how much did that cost?

    • @Shevchenkocss
      @Shevchenkocss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Akrham Knight did good on my PC .. What's sad, its after 2 years PS4 players can finally play at 30fps lol. It's almost 2017 cmon, and dont get me wrong i have a ps4 but i only buy exclusives

    • @piotrmazek540
      @piotrmazek540 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also on PS3 it was pretty good optimised.

  • @trza49er
    @trza49er ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What’s really crazy is that you still have to pull some shenanigans to get 60 fps on PS5. They can’t just make a “PS5 version” where they unpatch the frame cap?

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Running at a steady frame rate with no visual compromise is better than nothing.
    I think this is a band-aid patch and hopefully they patch the game at least one more time to properly utilize the Pro hardware soon.

    • @nitroOCE
      @nitroOCE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no Pro hardware to actually utilise, it's already being used. The Pro is simply an upgrade from a very low-end PC to a low-end PC. You can't use something that doesn't exist.

  • @SveinOlavLarsen
    @SveinOlavLarsen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Pro is a nice machine but more and more developers are taking a piss at it....

    • @ThatNormalBunny
      @ThatNormalBunny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you expect Sony is asking more from the developers

  • @MerryBlind
    @MerryBlind 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd say this is mainly good news. It went from a messy to a stable performance. I wouldn't have expected the games to reach 60fps anyway, so locked 30fps is the next best thing. Though it's a shame there is not visual enhancements on the Pro. They could have at least extended the range of the dynamic resolution beyond 1080p.

  • @nickmotsarsky4382
    @nickmotsarsky4382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ..didn't sony mandate that ps4 pro is not allowed to have ANY resolution below full 1080p? So how can it be dynamic then?

  • @AllieRX
    @AllieRX 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Meanwhile, my PC from 2012 can run Arkham City at 60fps.

    • @thiagovidal6137
      @thiagovidal6137 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      in a different engine, mind you. I'd like to see a PC from 2012 running U4.

    • @brucewayne4036
      @brucewayne4036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thiagovidal6137 not alot changes only few extra shadoss to render lol

    • @thiagovidal6137
      @thiagovidal6137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brucewayne4036 Regardless, it's running on a different engine with different requirements built for more modern machines.

    • @naytny5819
      @naytny5819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thiagovidal6137 so built to run like shit

  • @RationalLlama
    @RationalLlama 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got this for $7 at the PS store. Def worth it now. Don't pay full price for this.

  • @darthv72
    @darthv72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonder if DF will revisit this with the PS5? The 1.01 patch would be locked 60fps and prob no dynamic resolution scaling.

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is the stock version 1.00 at 60 FPS or only the 1.01 has 60fps?

  • @JerryFlowersIII
    @JerryFlowersIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well darn.
    I wish they DIDNT add a cap.
    Now I have to play it at 30fps on PS5.

    • @7ndrew
      @7ndrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you have a PS5 Disc version and own the game on physical, you can play the unpatched 1.0 version with a locked 60FPS

  • @tritonk1759
    @tritonk1759 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta say, as an Xbox ONE guy, I couldn't give two fucks about how it runs on PS4 Pro. So this is all good news for me.

  • @pottyaboutpotter1
    @pottyaboutpotter1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what would have happened if Virtuos had just not bothered making any Pro enhancements and we'd been able to play the base game in Boost Mode. Would it have been similar performance to 1.01 on the Pro? Or would it have even lead to a further increase in frame rate letting the game hit even closer to 60?

  • @rocketpunchgo1
    @rocketpunchgo1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Every post-launch "patch" video starts this way: "Well there's some good news... and some bad news."
    Lazy ass developers/companies rushing their games.

  • @synth_pulse3098
    @synth_pulse3098 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    So what is the reason to get a PS4 pro? I mean most games have ran worse!

    • @blessedred
      @blessedred 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spiderman. Horizon Zero Dawn. NiOh which supposedly has at least 4 modes...And ok make fun of TLOUP2. Guarantee its better than anything you're currently playing.

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      actually a lot of games run better. bf1, cod, the last gaurdian. it's only because ps4 pro is so new, in 6 months when developers have become accustomed to ps4 pro it will have leveled out

    • @merritt2014
      @merritt2014 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So you're the arbiter of what people buy the ps4 pro for? People want their old games to run better on new hardware. When I buy or build a new PC, old games always run significantly better. Can't really say the same for consoles.

    • @MrSlashtf2
      @MrSlashtf2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sonygers believe old games should not be played on new hardware, their logic is so biased it's ridiculous. The only two exclusives I find for the PS4 are Spider-man and Crash remastered, the rest seems not worth buying over for me (for now).

    • @eggy6857
      @eggy6857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go back to /v/ please.

  • @cjx_gaming1214
    @cjx_gaming1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish all remasters were capped at 60fps :(

  • @mz4ever123
    @mz4ever123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    60 fps on PS5 with the disc & update 1.00

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do I need to add any update or just leave it as the stock version? Update 1.00 sounds like I don't update the disc at all?

    • @mz4ever123
      @mz4ever123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyleTO7 leave it on 1.00 but the update will automatically download each time you boot ps5

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mz4ever123 I've done it, on version 1.00. it doesn't look like 60fps though.
      I did the PS5 game booster mode for a higher framerate and I don't see a difference. Everything turns into a total headache blur whenever I pan the camera. I'll upload a video soon. I gotta figure out a program to check framerates on videos.

    • @mz4ever123
      @mz4ever123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyleTO7 only Arkham City is 60fps. I don't know what a PS5 booster mode?

    • @klopinosantos
      @klopinosantos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have 1.02 Arkham City, I need Uninstall the game for I have 1.01(60 fps)? And I lost everything???

  • @arkpan4x4
    @arkpan4x4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hi digital foundry..are you will make video for BF1 after the massive patch 1.05???

  • @KnightBoltFilm
    @KnightBoltFilm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Candidate for PS5 with version 1.01uncapped frame rate. Could we get a solid 60fps

    • @zeusoftheaegis9038
      @zeusoftheaegis9038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seconded. I'd love to see this. It's in the same boat as AC Unity and The Last Guardian in that the unlocked framerate before the patch let's PS5 brute force their fps to 60.

    • @ayushsinghchauhan9558
      @ayushsinghchauhan9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      fuck this shit man i am buying the originals on PC, even though my laptop is limited to 1080p atleast I will get 60 fps and Its cheap on steam rn

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think it would give 60 fps on version 1.00 or only on version 1.01?

  • @prlolosto7396
    @prlolosto7396 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't care about slightly better graphics
    they should make ps pro for 1080p 60fps

  • @Winnetou64
    @Winnetou64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expected the game to be 1080p@60 on base PS4 at release, but I also expected it to only look like the original. Now we have updated graphics at almost solid 30 fps - good enough for me to give it a chance.

  • @ghost085
    @ghost085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I understood your previous video correctly, Return to Arkham didn't have official PS4 Pro support, so why are you disappointed? It was a pipe dream to think this game would improve its performance on those scenes that barely scratched 40fps, and honestly why would they keep an unlocked frame rate when people obsess and complain about small frame drops on other games.

  • @TheSmurf1973
    @TheSmurf1973 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's simple really. As a Pro owner, they dont get my money for this piss poor effort.

  • @Tropcopter
    @Tropcopter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the laziest engine remaster I've ever seen for a game. Literally upgrading it to a new generation of Unreal and still making it look like an overall downgrade somehow. That's an achievement.

  • @TheOneSourceOfTruth
    @TheOneSourceOfTruth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I for once are just glad I am getting a stable framerate on my Pro now. STABLE and CONSISTENT is preferable to all other alternatives!

    • @iciboy9
      @iciboy9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      at 30 fps with an old ass game ? Thats the problem... You shouldn't be accepting it, but meh... console players will suck sony off if they asked them too.

  • @Csmitty125
    @Csmitty125 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no reason a remaster should be 30fps.

  • @mintbrisk5961
    @mintbrisk5961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The update patch removed the 60fps for better performance. What a shitty thing to compromise over. They couldn’t handle both!?

  • @TheMedianGam3r
    @TheMedianGam3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man i wish they would had an Xbox one x enhancement for Arkham knight

  • @AAcidtrapp
    @AAcidtrapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want the original uncapped just reinstall without update , on the pro there’s not many drops that break gameplay

    • @KyleTO7
      @KyleTO7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the PS5? Is version 1.00 no good for above 30fps and only good for acute Above FPS on version 1.01?

  • @knightshifter2201
    @knightshifter2201 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Patching old games isn't the answer and the developers are lazy as hell and refuses to put real work into most games nowadays.

    • @Clybius
      @Clybius 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Critical Pilot There's this thing called money.

    • @knightshifter2201
      @knightshifter2201 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I understand that but I also understand when you start fucking over your consumers you start making less of that money and that something game developers need to fucking get to their damn skulls.

    • @Clybius
      @Clybius 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Critical Pilot Then don't buy said product until they get the point.

    • @TheKillerZmile
      @TheKillerZmile 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Critical Pilot bro try to code the game and develop it. its not that easy

    • @spaidakula
      @spaidakula 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Critical Pilot except naughty dog my friend . They are the good company

  • @219SilverChoc
    @219SilverChoc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With this game being so cpu intensive instead of gpu, a increased res like 1440p or 1620p with a more consistent 30fps would be great.

  • @jotarokujo5329
    @jotarokujo5329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not to mention I’m pretty sure a whole bunch of people are still getting lags on this game after Patch 1.02. If they make 1.03 the things I want is 60fps,darker colors where there suppose to be,brighter colors where there suppose to be,less crashes,graphical glitches fixed,more details and better texture for PS4 pro and this goes for asylum too.

  • @romandoo
    @romandoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG just pick the games individually for few bucks on PC and play them at higher framerates, without any problems even with lower end machine.

  • @MancaveCentral1
    @MancaveCentral1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have to wonder why this Batman collection was made in the first place.

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As much as I dislike WB, it actually makes sense they focused on the larger instal base here first. I imagine they will boost the resolution in the pro in a future patch.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      wolfflow Honestly I want a 60 fps mode for this remaster on the Pro. I'll gladly take a hit in resolution if necessary.

    • @cornbreadNFrends
      @cornbreadNFrends 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      wolfflow yup still waiting on that update lol 😂

    • @1gta4gta
      @1gta4gta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really

  • @runargisli9694
    @runargisli9694 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible Arkham Knight might get a Ps4Pro boost?

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Runar Gisli I hope so. I want 60 FPS.

  • @PreacherMan1971
    @PreacherMan1971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm aware of the fact that it is up to the developers to enhance their games or leave it as is. However, when they decide to do so without giving the Pro owners like myself the freedom to choose between different options, they might as well not do it at all. This is disappointing news to me. I was going to buy this game. Now I changed my mind. I'll stick with the PS3 version.

  • @thiagovidal6137
    @thiagovidal6137 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What people seems to forget is that the game now runs in the garbage Unreal 4. U4 can provide great graphics, sure, but as a 4K enthusiast I can tell you, U4 was designed for 1080p gaming. The engine suffers tremendously at higher resolution and presents several shading scale issues. It still works fine up to 1440p, but beyond that the engine pretty much breaks itself and go bananas.
    I kind of understand why it won't go past 1080p even though we expect PS4 PRO to run remasters of old games at native 4k. I blame the engine judging by all U4 tests I've done on my Titan X.

  • @protro0059
    @protro0059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The gliding feel stuttering

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty much done with consoles at this point. The only reason why I won't sell my PS4 Pro or my original PS4 is because upcoming GT Sport and NHL games which are to us Finns lifeline. So, they still have something that I cannot get on PC, but I can't live without. Expensive for a couple of exclusive experiences. It wouldn't be a hobby if it isn't expensive, wouldn't it?

  • @TravisMackie12ft4
    @TravisMackie12ft4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this game was made with making improvements on the original console in mind. I think if you played it on PS3 and Xbox 360 and wanted an upgrade for your new console, then this is a good option for better visuals. If you are a PC gamer, this isn't an upgrade for you, therefore it is best to stay on the PC. As a person who doesn't own a gaming PC, this is an upgrade for me above the originals, despite it not having 60fps, it still is visually an upgrade from PS3 and 360. I don't blame anyone for feeling one way or the other about this collection, but I can't consider it anywhere close to "the worst remaster ever". I can see disappointing, but I don't think it's the worst.

    • @Psydrre
      @Psydrre 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well put. Very nice to see someone who has a reasonable approach to this. I applaud you, Mr. Mackie.

  • @shehzaanaabdulla3047
    @shehzaanaabdulla3047 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *sigh* The 30fps cap and better framepacing is all good and well (at it should have been that way at launch) but this is such a mess.
    Honestly, at this rate I'd just play it on the PC. Yeah, might not have the shiny textures and advanced lighting of the console remaster, but it's easy to get running at a high, stable framerate without all these headaches of semi-regressive game updates.

  • @KILLAWATTS804
    @KILLAWATTS804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every game on ps4 doesnt need to be patched. this one definitely wasn't worth it. To all developers...don't do a ps4pro patch if it doesn't improve the game performance. ps4pro is a great console when used efficiently

    • @219SilverChoc
      @219SilverChoc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that they should allow the peformance increase on all titles, have it optinal incase the game breaks when using it, yet still have ps4 pro patches that allow for it to have a uncapped framerate run at a higher res.
      I dont get why sony did not make it a option to enable pros peformance improvements in all games.

    • @KILLAWATTS804
      @KILLAWATTS804 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BritishActionGamer sounds doable but ultimately it's up to the developers. Sony was clear on this matter

  • @GhostMotley
    @GhostMotley 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WB shouldn't have outsourced this to Virtuos

  • @lewiscudd
    @lewiscudd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was perfectly happy playing at an unlocked framerate on Pro. I'm usually in favour of a 30fps cap. But it actually felt smooth on pro, despite being inconsistent. Just give people the option. I foolishly allowed the patch to update, and now half way through the game, it feels jarring playing at 30fps. It was fine before.

  • @Birmanncat
    @Birmanncat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Meanwhile I'm here having steady 60 fps on a 5 year old pc in original games at max settings.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Birm I sooo can't wait to build my first gaming PC in 2017. I'm aiming for 4K at 60 fps bare minimum. I'll start saving up.

  • @Redefine07
    @Redefine07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did played this game with PhysX on a GTX 560 Ti Hawk and i5-2400 back then (60fps also) , the art direction looks so bad now with UE4.....they should had done what Bioshock Collection did not this...ffs .

  • @clouds5
    @clouds5 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Played all these Batman games in full 60fps 1080p - you know on what platform...

  • @tomaspostorivo
    @tomaspostorivo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ps4 pro was released very soon, they should have waited more, so the patchs were more polished

  • @winstonharambe
    @winstonharambe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyone targets EA and Activision as a bad company but Warner Bros is often forgotten as it is I think more worse than both of those company atleast in this time period. Why? Shadow of Mordor paid promo, Arkham Origin patch abandon for dlc, the obvious Arkham knight PC thing and now this and many more. I would like more people to acknowlege Warner Bros as one of the worse gaming company out there.

    • @mikec-ob7kl
      @mikec-ob7kl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fraction25 shadow of mordor was an amazing game though, just saying.

    • @winstonharambe
      @winstonharambe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mikec1844 but I was referring to the paid promo thing

    • @jackson43780
      @jackson43780 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "shadow of mordor was an amazing game though, just saying." Not on Ps3 and Xbox 360, just saying.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Zero Reverse yeah it was pretty irresponsible of them to make it a cross gen game, it ran below 20fps on last gen.

    • @souhail6148
      @souhail6148 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because they at least try to make up for what they do, in addition to that their games scale from "Good to Amazing" nothing is a complete shit show

  • @martinkeys3717
    @martinkeys3717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ps4 Pro, 1080p TV, no hdr (off) and boost mode (on) this way is the best way, 30fps is locked throughout and you don't get those blurry drops during gliding in arkham city

  • @MarceloTezza
    @MarceloTezza 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant see a problem wigh the 30 cap on the pro...
    If they got to the conclusion that it would not be able to sustain a better fps or a better quality, so be it. There is not a need for every launch to be more than 1080p, if the game/engine is not optimized enough for it.

  • @Turniplord
    @Turniplord 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so many people in the comments blaming Sony and taking the piss out of the Pro - as usual. You do realise its the devs who have done this and that the pro is capable of delivering a much better result. I'm guessing you do know that but you are either trying to be funny (which isn't working) or you are immature or just have some kind of unhealthy hate for Sony. If it is the latter, maybe you need help?

  • @CoD4Disturbed
    @CoD4Disturbed 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice analysis, Digital Foundry. Could you guys do a video on how the Xbox One version runs after Update 1.02?

  • @JamesBond007Nejc
    @JamesBond007Nejc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    PS4 Pro had so much potential for giant PS4 market, but Sony's low demands for developers, ruin it all

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully, Sony sees the error of it's ways. Especially, once Project Scorpio comes out. People are practically crying out for performance over resolution.
      MS seems to be more relaxed on it's demands too. People will push hard for performance parity.

  • @natahndolar2142
    @natahndolar2142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait this game is only 30 FPS? I thought it was 60 since the movement in cutscenes look a lot smoother than the original.

    • @vincevirtua
      @vincevirtua 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen a streamer enjoy a game like this believing it to be 60fps (Spider-Man), and then revert to fps whine mode as soon as someone points out they've been enjoying playing their game at 30. A fact of life is current gen is mostly 30fps lock, people spend too much time on this point and not enough playing and enjoying the game as intended.

    • @ayushsinghchauhan9558
      @ayushsinghchauhan9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fuck this shit man i am buying the originals on PC, even though my laptop is limited to 1080p atleast I will get 60 fps and Its cheap on steam rn

  • @really.not.important
    @really.not.important 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get a comparison to see how the game runs if the power connector is not in all the way?

  • @banana82728
    @banana82728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MFW this game runs at like 4k 60fps on any mid tier gpu today

  • @Sebastian4216663
    @Sebastian4216663 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So there is no patch basically for PS4 PRO, like most games.

  • @pastqr
    @pastqr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    like i said the ps4 is a waste of money

    • @malcolmboyd3467
      @malcolmboyd3467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ps4 in general or the pro?

    • @pastqr
      @pastqr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Malcolm Boyd the ps4 is great. the pro is useless

    • @malcolmboyd3467
      @malcolmboyd3467 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think the pro is ALL bad. The standard ps4 is great though

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the pro cost barely any more than the stanard ps4. If you already own a ps4 there is no reason to upgrade. but if you don't own a ps4 it's worth the extra money. A lot of games run better. bf1, cod, the last guardian. it's only because ps4 pro is so new, in 6 months when developers have become accustomed to ps4 pro it will have leveled out and wewill see a larger gap

    • @randomuser4785
      @randomuser4785 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually ps4/pro is the best console currently available.
      PC is waste of money. PC is dead irrelevant garbage that nobody gives a fuck about.

  • @ankitsen5971
    @ankitsen5971 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing i notice if ps4 runs 30fps its runs so smoothly no jerk or anything and if pc running at 30fps its not at all playable thats why pc needs 60fps

  • @wallacerigby4393
    @wallacerigby4393 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least pro delivers a solid remake that lives up to and goes beyond original console release. I bought a pro for better performance or better graphics and I guess this satisfied that criteria.

  • @MrHPfan4ever
    @MrHPfan4ever 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we to assume all discussion of performance and visual changes hold true on Xbox One?

  • @BeyondX3
    @BeyondX3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    After the patch, Arkham City looks like it got a downgrade in the graphics on my standard PS4. Does anyone else have this problem?

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is pathetic... this old game runs in 30 fps and it's made with new engine...

  • @CristianFlores-xq7xq
    @CristianFlores-xq7xq 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any comparison of the new Battlefield's update on the frame-rate?

  • @zakapholiac9377
    @zakapholiac9377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man wish the patch 1.01 was still available for PS5 it’d run as it should

    • @silentassasin4202
      @silentassasin4202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If u have a disc version of ps5. Then buy a physical copy of the game and enjoy. These devs are too lazy to fix anything.

    • @zakapholiac9377
      @zakapholiac9377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silentassasin4202 the disc is only 1.00 which has a ton of glitches and performance issues that not even the PS5 can solve. 1.01 at least had a lot of these fixed. But there’s no way of getting that :(

    • @ayushsinghchauhan9558
      @ayushsinghchauhan9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      fuck this shit man i am buying the originals on PC, even though my laptop is limited to 1080p atleast I will get 60 fps and Its cheap on steam rn

  • @razallac
    @razallac 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any update on the Xbox One version? Im holding off to see which version is worth getting after I get through some backlog, and I have to be honest that I prefer the One controller for most action heavy games

  • @Onlyicedmilk
    @Onlyicedmilk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly feel bad for people who wasted $ on the pro. PS4 slim is a much better deal.

    • @paulbarnes755
      @paulbarnes755 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dale Doback I agree the playstation pro is pointless just keep your standard or slim ps4 instead of wasting money.

    • @CarurossTheSecond218
      @CarurossTheSecond218 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dale Doback I caved and got the slim to pair with my PC. Loving it it's so quiet too

    • @paulbarnes755
      @paulbarnes755 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bagel Beater That's good to hear.

  • @deftestaphid2026
    @deftestaphid2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wtf removing unlocked framerate damn I mean ps5 and this would have been neat.

  • @sebotrp
    @sebotrp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PS4 Pro just can't stop being a meme.

  • @VideosbySteve
    @VideosbySteve 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sony really f'd up with Pro support by letting devs do whatever they want.

    • @CarurossTheSecond218
      @CarurossTheSecond218 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      16bitSteve having most of your install base on the standard console will do that.

    • @AllPro777
      @AllPro777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which is why this should've never been released. Devs didn't want to do it and gamers were generally happy with the base PS4. What Sony should've done is mandate more graphical settings for base PS4 games and that would've fixed a lot. Base PS4 users didn't give a shit about 4K, they just wanted their normal games to run 1080p 60fps or at least have a choice of framerate and resolution. What's happening with Pro is just a spit into the face of what people were asking for. Fuck the Pro and fuck Sony for this.
      Wake me up when PS5 comes. I'm cool with my base PS4.

  • @TheShangryLlamas
    @TheShangryLlamas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well at least it doesn't perform WORSE on the PS4 Pro than on the OG PS4 like SOME games out there... fucking lazy developers.

  • @salamanderpants4139
    @salamanderpants4139 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the point of developers patching their games for ps4 pro? Unless they are charging for the ps4 pro patch, I just don't get why they would do it.

  • @PsyEdaz4u
    @PsyEdaz4u 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    DF do one on BLOPS3 MP....now its really bad on PRO...what the hell is going on with "pro" patches?

  • @phoenixstopmotions
    @phoenixstopmotions 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro and scorpio should have been made as full 1080p and *locked* 60fps machines, not barely 4k stutter machines

  • @TheProduca
    @TheProduca 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the Xbox ONE version now? Does it still have the frame drops of death?

  • @boredstudent
    @boredstudent 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this game is using Unreal Engine 4 so of course it's not going to have optimal performance on a console. but it should have something close to having optimal performance on the PS4 Pro since it's a supposedly stronger console

  • @deffloyd
    @deffloyd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the pro did Sony promised i have a lot of old ps4 games i avoid playing because of technical issues.

  • @andreasschmidt9417
    @andreasschmidt9417 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Xbox One Version? I saw it also got a Patch a few days ago?

  • @FPRobber
    @FPRobber 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the price of a PS4 Pro I upgraded my PC and now all games run at 1080p60. Often even 1080p144
    I really expected more from Sony.

  • @VariantAEC
    @VariantAEC 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the developer didn't push for Pro support to begin with then it really doesn't go against PS4 Pro guidelines.
    Afterall you guys said it yourselves this game had a "stealth update". So the developer never said there were Pro benefits. Because you saw them now you're disappointed. Oh well, the facts are what they are.

  • @aaoppe
    @aaoppe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this game ever going to be patched to adequate standards? I still have crazy stutters, over 1 year later. Amazing.

  • @hababacon
    @hababacon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering if the tablet CPU holding back the Polaris based GPU, I can run this game at 60 locked (1440P) on my 290. The 480 is every bit as fast, if not faster than my aging 290. I have the Pro as well and wished Sony would have bumped the CPU up to 2.7 GHZ to go along with it's Polaris GPU.

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I had to guess, I'd say that there's a limit to the Jaguar cpu architecture possibly. I'm really not qualified to give any absolutes. But, it just doesn't seem like Sony would choose that low of a clock on purpose. And, who knows? Maybe, the next tier up cpu-wise might've only cost Sony a little more from AMD. But, Sony just didn't want to pay?

    • @hababacon
      @hababacon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bob Bop Perano I agree, I'm confused by Sony because they patented their CPU core running at 2.7 GHZ about two years ago. I figured this would be the PS4 Pro CPU clock rate.

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hababacon That's interesting. I'm gonna have to look that up.

    • @hababacon
      @hababacon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bob Bop Perano It looks like it was devkits, anywho here's the link. ps4daily.com/2013/07/playstation-4-dev-kits-cpu-runs-at-up-to-2-75-ghz/

  • @BassMonstrum
    @BassMonstrum 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am no expert at FPS, but it does seem like the game still goes above 30fps after the update. Am I completely wrong?