who's the real monster? | MONSTERS: THE LYLE AND ERIK MENENDEZ STORY [2x1] (REACTION)
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Asking for a second king sized Snickers is hella rude. Move along, kid. 😂
Back then in the 60-90 abused victims especially men stayed quiet, fear of being not belived judged, now we know so many family members even fathers have committed such nasty things towards they own children. It was Taboo something not spoken about.
Just how many women normalized staying in an abusive marriage because that’s what her own mother did and they normalized it , didn’t report stay quiet that behavior passes on to the next generations
Exactly
Please keep reacting to this show. It is heavy at time and there are inaccuracies but it is very well acted and it does have surprises if you’re new to their story
To be honest they took too many liberties with this interpretations. Coming from such a high S1 with Dahmer, this season was a bit of a letdown. A nice ride but nothing outstanding to be honest. The love happenings in the shower was weird to include it even though there is no confirm facts of that happening. I wish they hadn't strayed.
Love happenings? 😂
Unfortunately this is a very inaccurate portrayal of what really happened. It’s very disappointing that ryan murphy used this story to create his incestuous fanfiction of these two who went through so much at the hands of their father.
Agreed
It makes me so, so mad. Crafting the funeral scene to be so weirdly dramatic when Erik was unable to speak he was so upset, and Lyle gave a wonderful speech, was the first big red flag
Agreed so much
Meh...
Ryan murphy is disrespecting to Erik calling him gay too. Like they are married men to woman
Apparently Erik came out with a statement where he talks about how inaccurate this show portrayed the brothers.
a show that literally just came out ? yesterday ?
Yeah, I’m sure the convicted murderer of his parents is upset at being portrayed as a convicted murderer of his parents.
@@LanadelreysWife5Yeah. I guess nobody ever watches a show that came out a day before.
@@LanadelreysWife5it’s literally a show about him and his brother, they most likely watched it before it came out September 19 or read the script
It must've been weird and maybe disturbing seeing a recreation of your own crime being made, even the brutality of the murders.
Unless the brothers have 0 empathy till this day.
Nicholas Alexander Chavez is a fabulous actor whose known for his role as Spencer Cassadine on General Hospital and iconic super couple aka Sprina! Not surprised that he killed this!
15:12 "honey, you were gone your hair was gone ok" 😭😭
She didn't have to humble him like that so quick😂😂😂
This some relationship goals❤😂 fr
If you watch the trial you can feel how DARK it was in that house, since they were babies! The aunts and cousins testified to some stuff that happened. p.s. That baldness was such an exaggeration, he did start losing his hair young but it wasnt totally bald like that. So sad how the mother tore it off and he was so humiliated. He testified to that in court. 😢
..........I grew up with an abusive mother and older brother. My mother said she left my real father because he abused me, but then she took up the mantle to continue the abuse. My older brother sexually abused me and I say that because --- despite all of that and wanting to kill myself - for years, during and after, I never killed my parents. I never killed my older brother.
@2SanJunipero I am so sorry you went through that, really. But yeah its not an excuse to kill but at the same time not everyone can deal or cope with things the SAME way. Nobody is saying its okay, its just an explanation. I dealt with things differently with things growing up than my sibling did with no emotional regulation or examples of healthy ways to deal with feelings, all that stuff that goes on in an individuals life leads to certain actions or lifestyle.
He was bald like that when he had the hairpiece, because it needed to be bladed to be applied. But before that, it was just thinning.
@@ipurpleu1668 Ohhh, yeah they do like shave it off before applying.
I’m sorry but the way she snatched his wig off
The rule is that if the client comes into the therapy session and says oh, I am going to kill or I have killed. Whoever the therapist has report it to the police, especially if a victim has been identified. It is called the Tarasoff law.
Actually Tarasoff doesn't apply to PAST crimes
The therapist couldn’t call the police or else he would have lost his license. He could have called the police if they had threatened to kill someone but not for confessing to a murder that’s already happened. The law can be funky like that
Lyle and Erik have never had an incestuous relationship. They were sexually abused by their own father and after that Lyle began sexually abusing Erik, his own brother.
@@itsthatgirl98_ in what way is fucking your own brother not incestuous?
I binged this series in a day, its def dramatized and like dahmer, theres truths and theres lies in it. I won't get into spoilers but some things lowkey upset me but I have to remind myself that there are many theories about these brothers specifically their relationship/dynamic with eachother and their father.
@@1b0y4me why's everyone say low key in every fuckin sentence?
The way they heavily sexualized Erik and Lyles relationship is downright disgusting. This man really just doesn’t know how to portray victims trauma without adding some weird gay undertones to it does he? Like what was up with those kissing scenes? Completely unnecessary.
i like how you mention how erik acts like a child and then switches which is just hinting to both of their abuse as children
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they're only defending them because they're attracted to them lol. if the menendez brothers were unattractive no one would care
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@@rosetoi03 The way that's not even true, what r u on? Yk how many ppl don't find them attractive but still support them. You're weird for bringing looks in it!
@@FatherStomach Because they actually acknowledge things unlike you
@@Haniihao there are people on social media making edits about these boys, literally saw one the other day but ok!!
That was the real 911 phone call u were hearing.
Theyre in the background of a now infamous basketball rookie card. When the pic was taken that was used for that card they had already killed the parents.
I love that you guys are reacting to it, but the show does very poorly portrayed the case and very poorly portrays Lyle so it is very inaccurate but it's a good watch
i'm pretty sure they portrayed lyle very bad in this series, which makes him look like a horrible person.
Well, he killed his parents.
@@Dman425for a good cause.
@@MariaDonkova there is never a good reason to murder someone. Some of you are so gullible and lost!
@@NikaiaHepi-Taratoa he is a horrible person. Hense the life in jail thing
@Dman425 you don't know anything about the case
The actors who played the brothers absolutely killed it with their acting in this series although i don think Ryan Murphy did the story justice a lot of misinformation
I binged the whole thing in two days. You guys won’t be disappointed. The performances left me stunned. Be prepared for a whole rollercoaster of emotions. One of the best series I’ve seen in a while.
If you don’t know a lot about the real case you should look into it the show has a lot on inaccurate information, and really glosses over how bad the abuse really was, there are public court videos and documentary’s and other things that are more accurate.
I agree the show as a show eg. The cinematography, directing, and acting are all on point it would have been much better had they made the show completely fictional or simply stated at the beginning that there are inaccuracies and dramatisation.
@@Fullmovieszz Yes I’m aware there were going to be fictionalized portions and dramatic license; it’s Ryan Murphy after all lol. I remember when the case happened but I didn’t follow it closely. I’ve seen several things about it. I thought they got pretty close on a lot of things and went off into Murphy’s fantasies on others but overall I was still riveted by the performances. Episode 6 was my favorite.
Generally, a therapist does not have to report a past crime; they have only a duty to warn. This therapist is, clinically speaking, wilin'.
It is important to approach this case/story with sympathy for Erik and Lyle. They're not sociopaths or psychopaths, their behavior is a reflection of the abusive environment they were raised in. Of course, murder is never the answer, and at the same time, there is so much abuse someone can endure before something happens. I would also suggest reading Erik's statement on the show.
back w the show that started it all (4 me anyways hehe) but i probably won't be watching bc ryan murphy being his weird self [derogatory] hes so hit or miss nowadays. i feel like s2 should've been john wayne gacy like it was teased in the dahmer show (what was the reason,) and he should've saved the menendez story for american crime story and focused on the courtroom aspect. idk its gonna sound morbid but i think the monsters format only works with serial killers. sorry!!
And the menedez bros had a cross over with the OJ Simpson case
@@jessicagudino8461 yeah! didn't one of the lawyers on the dream team say he organized one of the brother's surrender?
As long as you guys beilive they aren’t monsters and just victims I will be happy
I hate this show it’s completely inaccurate to the real case
Lyle was never a douche and never cussed this much
I watched with my partner and friends
And my partner is very much close to this case and they were pisssed on how much they destroyed the boys rep in it
The boys even stated this show was a joke
But there a documentary coming out in October where the boys speak and are going talk about new things and everything
Plesze Bridgette and Cody watch the trial on your on time
"honey.."
"what happened?"
took me tf out
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The chills I got when Lyle reloaded & went back in… like I don’t think you needed to do that, my dude. 🫤😐
He didn’t need to do that, but trauma is fucking weird. :/.
That is actually how it happened in real life
@@LunarHexagon yes blame the trauma for him going to reload his shotgun after unloading rounds on his parents blowing off their arms and legs and faces. blame the trauma for it all. He had no choice and the trauma made him do it. Puhhhhhlease......
@@AnonymousSaiyan You are not a very smart person are you?
@@AnonymousSaiyan when the man that raped you your whole life and the woman who did nothing but stand aside and do nothing your whole life are dead at your feet... Most ppl would shoot some more, letting all the anger and resentment of a lifetime out. Also why are we acting like we've never seen a scene of a character shooting/stabbing another (dead) character multiple times out of rage/resentment? Like it's a new, never seen before thing? I could probably name 3 scenes like that of the top of my head.
This show is very inaccurate when portraying the brothers and for that reason the only thing that saved the show for me was the performances
This is one of the many reasons I love you guys! Y’all always come through. I haven’t seen anyone else react to this after i literally binged the entire thing yesterday lol I love the conversation afterwards too! Day made 🖤
This show was so brutal first episode gave me chills
I sobbed so hard throughout the serie, and it also made me realize how naive and how easily one may fall for a narrative without acknowledging an other point of view. (me)
They don’t deserve the sentence that they were given
The brothers are innocent, all they wanted was love from the parents. They both told they mom when they were little what was happening as well as family members who also told the mom and she denied. Imagine Erik horror when he realized she knew all along and allowed it to happened. Up to the week they got murdered, Erik was still getting raped and abused daily as a form of punishment:
Bad grades get raped
Speak back get raped
Don’t do good in tennis get raped etc.
He manipulated both brothers in keeping it from one another. Erik being the most sensible and sensitive, got it worse and he stayed quiet and didn’t tell lyle because he knew his temper , it wasn’t until that night where they rip Lyle wig off that he confessed to his brother him getting abused since 6. Lyle had no idea and had thought it stopped.
Remember abused is taught no one wakes up after 30 years and decides to start hitting raping molesting out of no where. Jose went through it as a kid and normalized it , his way of gettting some of his childhood back or voice he lost was to inflict that same behavior to his child. The brothers grew up and realized it was wrong and decided to end that cycle: it would had continued if they had stayed alive. Imagine if Erik and Lyle would had gotten married or had kids with those grandparents around.
Babe you’re spoiling everything they dont know all the details yet but i agree with what u said
blah blah blah
@@destiny8128spoiling the details… of a real life crime? Ok
Innocent? They killed their parents
@@Guyvermectin the why is what matters
You guys are about to be disappointed
Too many different ways a victim can react. Most think their post to just whimper in the corner & do nothing. I’m not ok’ing that they murdered them, but I can understand… I also know those that was S.A.’d and took their own life… this situation also didn’t just stop wit Erik & Lyle. Former Menundo Member Roy Rosselló was also S.A.’d by Jose Menendez, & try to help the brothers with their case & it was denied.
TCBY was a frozen yogurt shop.....I think they're outta business now😮
I hope for season 4 and after they do h.h Holmes and John Wayne gacy
(P.s I could be wrong about what happened with Eric and his brother I'm just saying what I found)
This season I sorta looked up about the two killers and law and order the crime show apparently did a episode on this case and even a movie was made about them,
What was strange about this case is there was confusion on if what they did was due to the amount of abuse the father put the both of em through and the mother sadly did nothing if I remember.
As of September 20th 2024
Eric and Lyle are still currently in prison serving there life sentences, Eric is 53 and Lyle is 56
@@toddlacroix8992 Mother was hella abusive as well!
@@toddlacroix8992 is there any actual proof of abuse though?
Started watching this yesterday and Please be advised for some coming up episodes that are very heartbreaking
Great performances but not accurate.
I finished this in one day having it on in the background while I was studying. After I finished, I immediately went to your channel to see if you guys put out a reaction yet. I can’t wait for you guys to see the show!!
Great show, just finished it yesterday. You guys are gonna love it.
You didn't know that TCBY was a frozen yogurt chain? How old are you guys?
We were born in the early 90s 🤷🏻♂️💀
@@BRIDGECO1Boo this man
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I am probably one of the few people who thinks this series was successful in portraying the agony, the pain and the hell the brothers went through. I didn't know anything about the Menendez brothers and though I have to say the first episode was quite creepy, after finishing the series, I absolutely believe that the brothers went through hell with their parents and that there was no other way for them to set them free, at least I am convinced that was what they truly felt when commiting the murders. I think the way it depicts their feelings, the hesitation to talk about the abuse, the feelings they shared, are very believable and relatable, especially if you have been a victim of abuse yourself.
After finishing the series I started to dig down the rabbit hole and watched the trial, theories .. well, a lot of information. And for me, again - after finishing the series - I felt that the series portrayed perfectly the way the public perceived these two men during the 90s, but always made clear that the abuse took place and that the creator believes the brothers. It was a risky move to portray it that way, absolutely, but it kept me thinking about it.
For me it clearly showed the facade the parents put up for the public to see and at the same time the reality, the horrors that happened behind closed doors. When Eric and Lyle talk about the abuse, in the series as well as during the trial, it hits deep. You can just feel and hear - by the way they are talking about it - that it is true. Abuse isn't black and white, it's not easy, it is painful, hurtful, destroying and confusing as hell. Your brain can't make sense that the person who should protect you and who you love with all your heart does this to you. Especially when you experience it since your childhood and by one or both parents. The feelings they shared might not make sense to someone who hasn't have to gone through it, but for a victim it actually does make sense. And as strange as it sounds, the alleged contradictions that people without abuse experience see in the brothers' statements and interpret them as evidence of guilt, exactly these statements prove, on the contrary, the truth of what was said. Someone who hasn't experienced abuse would never make such statements because they don't sound logical. However, a victim of abuse will recognize these feelings, especially if the abuse came from one or both parents. You can't play something like that if you don't have experienced it.
Despite the sometimes awkward depiction of the brothers (that were filmed on purpose - in my opinion - to show the public's opinion and the extreme difference between the public's impression and the dark, horrible reality) the show emphasized more and more on the manipulating nature of the father and what reality the brothers really had to live in. One moment stayed with me especially. In episode 6 or 7 right before they shot the family picture it is shown that José allegedly tried to be a "better" husband and father. That's the surface. Then there is the scene between him and Eric behind the door, his sexual encounter with the young men, and most shockingly during the photo session you can see Eric moving very uncomfortably behind José because his bottom hurt from the abuse that happened not long before that. On the surface this episode seems as if the parents were trying hard to be good, but everything else showed how badly they were failing and how abusive they've been. Not only sexual abuse, but also emotional and physical. The last scene in this episode, with the parents sitting on the couch eating ice cream, it felt intentionally superficial for me and the version of the public that didn't and don't bother to look closer behind the scenes.
So - I thought it was quite successful in showing the brothers' trauma and made me feel extremely sorry and angry for them. And after digging down the whole I feel even stronger about it. But the series was the door to it, and for me it made me want to know more.
Btw, Javier Bardem scared the hell out of me, his depiction of the abusive, manipulative, unhinged and deeply troubled father was outstanding.
I'm not sure if I can get my point across correctly. Unfortunately, English is not my native language. Ultimately, of course, it's just my opinion anyway, nothing more.
I shouldn’t laugh, but when his mom yanked off his wig I lost it😂😂😂
@@melanated_persephone2334 the entire scene had massive Kyle gass in the pick of destiny vibes 🤣
Since when did Bebop's fashion sense become an actual look? Weird. If only those actually knew the true background of what a nose ring represents. But I guess meanings change.
Because of dahmer i followd you!!. Was a very cool ride with you guys
Javier in this looks almost identical to my grandpa, fucking trips me out
Be careful !!!! The problem of the show is that in the show the point of view of the family members that supports the brothers and the new evidences found about their father's abuses are completely ignored. So in the show we have the brother's point of view and the one of those who don't believe them. But the family members who witnessed the abuse and knew about it, such as the sister of Kitty menendez, or the cousins of the brothers or their uncle, (all of them have spoken on tv about it many times) are nowhere to be found in the show. And the approach of "make tour own oppinion" could be true 20-10 years ago but nowadays with all the proof the police have found and gathered, it seems at 90% that the brothers were not lying about their father ! The problem is that the showrunner purposely ignored all these elements that are proving the brothers declaration. Of course they are not innocents ! They killed their parents but the reasons behind it are being diminished by those showrunner's action.
People who watch this series (not y'all but the audience in general) about the Menendez brothers need to make sure they look deeply into the case before developing a full opinion on the brothers guilt or to what degree they are guilty. There is a TON of info, documentaries (there is another coming out on the 7th), you can watch the brothers actual testimonies, see doctors information from their childhood etc. Monsters WAS a good watch but it also appears to have done a disservice to the brothers. The show has been criticized for their portrayal of Lyle in particular (he was not known by anyone for being so aggressive though Erik always appeared to be the more emotional of the brothers) The insinuation on the brothers relationship with each other was absurd and had no place in the show. In their 1st trials they had countless people back their abuse claims; aunts, uncle, cousins, coaches, teachers etc.
Erik has learning disabilities that were ignored by his parents - which is why at times in the show and in his actual trial etc. Erik struggled at times with processing how to respond to things. Both boys had questionable history with their medical issues as children such as a 7 yr old Erik having injuries within his throat that doctors say is consistent with the SA claims. Erik also suffered the SA abuse for many more years than Lyle though both make claims of abuse on all levels (note; they are not the only males who accused their father of SA as minors.) The degree of abuse at all ages and levels would have altered Eriks development truthfully.
The spending they did after the crime was committed fell in line with their normal spending. It was normal of their life style.
They were also young. Erik was only 18 and Lyle 3 years older so in a lot of ways, Eriks mind WAS still very young and he was a kid. Sure, 18 is a legal adult but we also know..18 is a kid in many ways.
Lyle has always said he gave the final k*ll shots. He said it was all to protect his brother and they had threatened to tell on their father and they were fearful of him.
Their scattered behavior and poor "planning" after the crime is actually consistent with NOT having premeditation but the boys basically having snapped.
This is been one of my favourite (for lack of better phrasing) cases over the years to study (I swear, I am not strange, I studied education, special education, and psychology as majors in college as well took criminal law classes for fun and leaned heavily into my love of psychology which is why I love studying crime!) Back when all of this happened, what happened behind closed doors tended to be left behind closed doors and the brothers fears came true when they were forced to talk about their abuse and SA. They were not believed. They were shamed and embarrassed. Make note the SA abuse was NOT going to be part of their defense but it came to be after a therapist spent 50 hours with Erik and learned what she learned. In the 1st trial for both they had mistrials and the not shocking thing is that the women leaned heavily toward manslaughter but the males leaned toward murder. Eriks jury was 6 men and 6 women. All of the women believed Erik.
Dr Oziel was a criminal in his own right with how he interacted with patients - like an affair with a patient - and secretly recorded the brothers.
The boys mother had addiction issues and a panic disorder and I believe also a personality disorder (Jose also had an 8 yr affair on her). So yeah, a deep dive will give people a better understanding of the life the boys lived and what is believed - I always believed the brothers and believe they should have been found guilty of a voluntary manslaughter charge. If they were believed and found guilty on the manslaughter charges they'd be free now.
The brothers were separated for 22 years but are not again together in the same prison where they are spearheading some things to help prisoners- like painting the prison yard walls to add positivity.
I will be quiet now. Lol But again, my favourite case I have looked into for years and I believe the brothers.
I've said it before- watch SOA! I know you say you've seen season 1, that's fine. Maybe just condense s1 into 2 or 3 kids, then start with s2. It's one of the best shows of the 21st century and perfect for yalls sensibilities
I couldn't watch all of the scenes of them explaining but from what I watched the parents had to go!
Then, you leave them and start a new life somewhere else. They were greedy also. Something that isn’t talked about
@@Dman425 True
@@Dman425 You clearly don't know everything. Do your research
@@deborahbala7756 they needed a reason for what they did. They should of left them if things were so bad
@@Dman425Nobody just kills their own parents without a reason. The fact that two of them agreed to do it says enough for me. It’s one thing to have one sibling do it, but to have everyone else agree that mom and dad deserved to go is a whole different story.
did not expect peaky blinders season 2 to start off like this, such a tonal shift
Wildly insensitive, disrespectfully stfu.
I miss having Netflix. I wish these documentaries were available on prime video. Is there anywhere else that I can wacth it?
I can’t believe it’s already been TWO years since dahmer!! I watched yall reaction to the series and I loved it! So excited when I saw this come up on my recommended. Enjoy the series it’s a good one!!
This series is 3 episodes too long. I hate that the Netflix docs/shows “stretch” their good stories into lame territory to reach a number of epi$ode$.
No way has it been 2 years since Dahmer? I think I first found you guys through Dahmer, thanks for 2 years of great reactions! 😁
I found y'all thru your reaction to Dahmer and loved it! I'm very disappointed with how they did this season. It seemed like they didn't want to tell the story as much as they wanted to be shocking
15:07 😂😂😂😂 Funniest part of your commentary! Love the chemistry between you two
just discovered yall, excited for the rest of this series reactions!
This show was so gooddd i like binged in in 2 days sooo excited to see you guys reacting to this season cuz i neeeddd more people to talk about itttt
TCBY had me throwing back. They're all gone in my neck of the woods
anyone knows a site where i can watch it? (🏴☠️lf you catch my drift)
Free them both 😢😊❤
After watching Dahmer off of your channel i was hooked instantly, now we get a part 2!!!
The series isn’t accurate at all
There's not only Erik's comment on this but also other members of the family wrote statements about how inaccurate this show is especially when it comes to Lyle.
It's also very bad that Roy isn't mentioned at all, cancelling his own story for the sake of the narrative Ryan Murphy decided to go with. So, please, have that in mind while watching this show.
Who is Roy ?
@@itswelly03 Roy Rosselló is another victim of Jose. You can watch the documentary Menendez + Menudo: Boys Betrayed to know more about him.
Roy Rosello a former member of Menudo. He admits Jose raped him multiple times and Eduardo Diaz helped it happen.
It is insane how much Lyle looks like Sebastian stan
bro i just feel like these kids were sexually abused !! this was not fucking normal .. and i can’t imagine how they felt ! they deserve to serve time but i feel like they got their freedom stripped away twice .. like it’s just too much! and you are closed in with no help or protection from the people who birthed you because they are the same people who harmed you !!!
Netflix did get the story wrong
Wait I didn't know we were getting Leatherface lore for season 3
it's going to get weird. Hang on.
such a sad story bro
Yay back for this
Not being funny. I love sons of anarchy but Charlie hunnam can't really do an American accent to save his life. Geordie ed gein should be a laugh 😂
Started watching ypu guys when you guys did the Jeffery dahmer story. Been watching ever sense. Love ypur reactions ❤
This show was so brutal first episode gave me chills
I couldn't even watch Dahlmer......
You guys should watch the show "From"..
Continue with the reaction for ep 2😢
Thanks. WTF!
yall I need you reacting to ARCANE!!!
lol November is Arcane month!
Can yall react to the Terrifier 3 Naughty Cut Trailer🗿🍷 Please
No. Only dickheads react to trailers. Wait til the movie comes out
I wish people would quit saying "multiple personalities" that isnt a real thing
I've got the day off and this is the perfect way to start it 🙌
During the Dahmer craze a couple years ago I was greatly annoyed by the inaccuracies in the show and found myself bouncing from comment section to comment section correcting the record - I know much less about this case so it's gonna be interesting to peruse the comment sections this time around for the true story from those who have been invested in it for years.
Yeah I said everything needs taken with a grain of salt, and we’re the same. Gonna enjoy the show and then do a dive into the actual case for accuracies after!
Please react to episode 2
@@thenashmin im sure they will. Be patient
@@Chriswallace0405 ☺☺
When will u watch the next one??
Should be up Tuesday
@@BRIDGECO1 okok thanks, can't wait.
@@BRIDGECO1for Patreon as well?
damn the comment section is quite wild. Never understood the obsession with convicted murderers
What a waste of season this was....How are they monsters type criminals like Dahmer of Ed Gein, who will be the next season's Story. They werr not monsters. They just average criminals with a tragic childhood. And thats it. S2 should've been about John Wayne Gacy, especially after the Dahmer cameo..
@@evanicszoltan7755 can you speak English if you're going to comment?
@@Chriswallace0405 oh cmon buddy u know that he meant. We all know the Menendez brothers shouldnt be put in the same category, which is what Murphy did, as Dahmer or Gein.
Public thoughts after the Bros were implicated was: Those guys just wanted the money and they are spoiled. These are two boys/young men at the time that killed their parents for the money.
But as soon as I saw them on the stand and heard even a small bit of their story, I was like “oh my god, they did it, but their parents were monsters, so I get it”
People who have been thru extreme trauma as children, even not sexual trauma, understand. what happened here.
What I wanna know is if theres legit evidence that they were abused by there father is there actual proof or evidence that's that happen or did the menendez brothers both say that just for empathy from people ? What fo u all think
@@mr.broomshr00m37 it's all hearsay from what I can gather there's no solid evidence.
No there’s no proof at all.
there literally are many witnesses including their cousins recalling the time as they were kids when lyle asked him if their father also did weird stuff to them, there’s naked pics of them as kids in very inappropriate ways in an envelopes, most of their family knew their father still showered with them and they weren’t to enter the rooms when their father was with the boys. there were many legit evidence, judge was biased from the get go that “men cannot be raped”
There were many witnesses, child porn of the brothers found, medical reports coinciding with CSA, among other things.
@@TellyGianoulis you shouldnt talk out ur ass, there are actually evidences that were even brought up in court. family and close familys friends testimonies that they were indeed abused, therapists backing up what the brothers said about the abuse, and even a letter Lyle sent to his cousin, confessing that his father abused him sexually.
Lots of people have horrible parents who are very abusive. They don’t go blowing their brains because of it
@@Dman425 precisely. At the very least they could have just beaten the shit out of the dad. I'm sure that would have made their point
Not everyone is gonna react the same way. Humans are more complex than that
@@thaispereira7311 well, their actions put them in prison for life. Do these people who do this, really think they won’t get caught?
those 2 are sick and are paying for what they've done. but I do believe they were raised up in hell.
I already can’t wait for ed geins story. I’m a fan of fake gore and I’m all ed geins case! (Even though the gores not fake…)
Spoiled rich sociopaths
Some of you young people are so gullible. 😂
@@Dman425 just people in general are fucking idiots mate. Not just young people
so watchu think huh? they killed their parent for fun?
I have a hard time feeling bad for the brothers. If you are in an abusive situation, whether with family, friends , a relationship; you dont murder them. You get out of the situation. Go to a friends house, you trust, a family member (what i heard wasnt really an option) , or a partners house. I hate to say this but it also makes the abuse a little hard to believe, especially the you know parts of it, because of the robbing they did before the murders.
quick question, have u ever been abused by someone such as parents?
I think the show had a lot of really good angles it took me feeling sorry for them to understanding why they got life with no parole. I think they were spoiled warped liars who tried to get away with the brutal murder of their parents and then played every card they could to escape the death penalty. My favorite part was when Erik cried during the earthquake.
@@hippiecheezburger5457 wtf
I was a senior in high school when this happened. At the time there was no evidence from anyone that the parents were abusive at all. Strict yes but nothing ever came out that they were abusive. Maybe something has been uncovered about it since then but I don’t know. Back then it was black and white. They murdered their parents and then came up with an outlandish defense of all different kinds of abuse. These boys are the monsters. They are guilty and are in prison for a reason. Just recently the zoomers and gen y/mil kids are thinking they are innocent because mom and dad hurt their feelings and they had no choice but to kill them to stop the mental abuse. I watched this happen live and in color at the time it happened. They wanted money so they killed their parents to get it.
lol, their first trial was a deadlock jury because they couldn't tell if they should be guilty of murder or manslaughter, and they only got convicted in the second trial because the court blocked the defense from using the evidence of abuse that was corroborated by several family members such as Diane Vander Molen (their cousin who lived with them when Lyle was 8)
So you don’t even know all the facts about the case and you are still calling these guys monsters. They are Murders but they aren’t monsters the real monsters are the ones they lived with that sexually abused them for YEARS of their lives. And yes there has been evidence that came out since you can’t bother to look yourself that proves these men were abused and not to mention during the case there was also family members coming forward confirming their stories.
@@kendravaldez8862 well apparently you were there so you know everything. Or maybe you are one of those people I was talking about earlier. Hmmm…
@@deannawinsletthughes5958 neither were you lmfaooo
I don’t agree with murder at all but until someone has sexually abused you that you trust and rely on you know nothing. I was 3 when it happened to me not a family member thankfully but it was a friend of the family and it took me years to come to terms with my abuse. It is absolutely horrific to be a child and have everything good and innocent taken away from you before you even experience life. I don’t think they should have killed them but my heart breaks for the little boys they were and those parents needed to be punished it wasn’t the right way but it was the brothers only way out. I don’t think you realise how badly abuse can fuck you up like that.