Lyle was balding due to severe stress from being sexually assaulted by his own father and physically abused his mother was also ripping out his hair a lot the hair piece is real he wore it during the trial in court but no longer wears it today.
Back then in the 60-90 abused victims especially men stayed quiet, fear of being not belived judged, now we know so many family members even fathers have committed such nasty things towards they own children. It was Taboo something not spoken about. Just how many women normalized staying in an abusive marriage because that’s what her own mother did and they normalized it , didn’t report stay quiet that behavior passes on to the next generations
It must've been weird and maybe disturbing seeing a recreation of your own crime being made, even the brutality of the murders. Unless the brothers have 0 empathy till this day.
Unfortunately this is a very inaccurate portrayal of what really happened. It’s very disappointing that ryan murphy used this story to create his incestuous fanfiction of these two who went through so much at the hands of their father.
It makes me so, so mad. Crafting the funeral scene to be so weirdly dramatic when Erik was unable to speak he was so upset, and Lyle gave a wonderful speech, was the first big red flag
If you watched their actual trials, you would know how effed up their dad was. Erik got raped over 100 times by his OWN father and Kitty didn't do anything, also, Ryan Murphy made it seem like they are the monsters, no, their parents are. He also made it seem like the brothers had a sexual relationship with each other which is completely wrong and totally off topic with the show. Erik and Lyle aren't monsters, they are literal victims. Did they kill their parents? Yes, but they killed them because they were afraid of them, how in the hell are you supposed to live with YOUR OWN parents that rape and abuse you everyday? You can't. Thats why Erik starting getting su1cidal, he just couldn't live with all the trauma. Thankfully, he never did attempt I don't think. They are both survivors. Their whole story is just really sad and now I'm attached to them. It's just unbelievable, I feel so bad for them. But Erik and Lyle now are great, Erik's married (search it up how they got married cus I ain't saying it) and Lyle is doing well, I don't know if he's married or not. And the actors in the show are literally amazing, nicholas did a great job playing lyle, but like i mentioned, lyle was never that hot headed. You could just tell by looking at him, he was very sweet, and even Erik. Erik wouldnt hurt a fly. And cooper, man cooper did a good effing job playing erik. Best acting ive seen this year. But some people just need to understand what actually happened behind closed doors.
no, Ryan Murphy did not made it seem like they are the monsters LOL, we can literally see theres mutiple perspectives in the show, just like back then. also, all the promo is based on "Are they monsters?", educate yourself
@@savss_editssno he doesn’t. He literally comes out and says the point is to question everyone’s pov and give different perspectives. He doesn’t point the finger at all to one specific person.
@@rosetoi03 The way that's not even true, what r u on? Yk how many ppl don't find them attractive but still support them. You're weird for bringing looks in it!
Nicholas Alexander Chavez is a fabulous actor whose known for his role as Spencer Cassadine on General Hospital and iconic super couple aka Sprina! Not surprised that he killed this!
It is important to approach this case/story with sympathy for Erik and Lyle. They're not sociopaths or psychopaths, their behavior is a reflection of the abusive environment they were raised in. Of course, murder is never the answer, and at the same time, there is so much abuse someone can endure before something happens. I would also suggest reading Erik's statement on the show.
I mean hell Erik especially. Everyone described him as sensitive and would cry and he’s the reason they even got caught. He felt so guilty he had to talk to someone, truly sad
Why not just say what the statement is. What an idiotic thing to do to bring up that there is a statement but fail to actually say it. Also, one can only have sympathy for them if they believe the accusations of abuse, a choice that is very personal so you have no business telling people how to view the brothers.
The therapist couldn’t call the police or else he would have lost his license. He could have called the police if they had threatened to kill someone but not for confessing to a murder that’s already happened. The law can be funky like that
You learn something new everyday cuz I was like if I was a therapist. Idc about no confidentiality. Im going to tell someone about this but that makes sense tho
If you watch the trial you can feel how DARK it was in that house, since they were babies! The aunts and cousins testified to some stuff that happened. p.s. That baldness was such an exaggeration, he did start losing his hair young but it wasnt totally bald like that. So sad how the mother tore it off and he was so humiliated. He testified to that in court. 😢
..........I grew up with an abusive mother and older brother. My mother said she left my real father because he abused me, but then she took up the mantle to continue the abuse. My older brother sexually abused me and I say that because --- despite all of that and wanting to kill myself - for years, during and after, I never killed my parents. I never killed my older brother.
@2SanJunipero I am so sorry you went through that, really. But yeah its not an excuse to kill but at the same time not everyone can deal or cope with things the SAME way. Nobody is saying its okay, its just an explanation. I dealt with things differently with things growing up than my sibling did with no emotional regulation or examples of healthy ways to deal with feelings, all that stuff that goes on in an individuals life leads to certain actions or lifestyle.
Lyle and Erik have never had an incestuous relationship. They were sexually abused by their own father and after that Lyle began sexually abusing Erik, his own brother.
They could made that up to avoid death penalty it is actually surprising how people justify what they did ,they are other ways to punish your parent for abuse but i read people say parents deserve it people are that sick like wtf is wrong with people all this because they look handsome ?? so we should let them out ???!
The rule is that if the client comes into the therapy session and says oh, I am going to kill or I have killed. Whoever the therapist has report it to the police, especially if a victim has been identified. It is called the Tarasoff law.
The actors who played the brothers absolutely killed it with their acting in this series although i don think Ryan Murphy did the story justice a lot of misinformation
He didnt. He has came out said he’s one of those people who dont believe that they were abused at all & that they should be thankful for him. Ryan is a pos
@@vickybabadoo9927 You are crazy...they still killed they parents they deserve prison and so did they parents if abuse ever happen but they did not choose that path they took shotguns and massacred their parents
The way they heavily sexualized Erik and Lyles relationship is downright disgusting. This man really just doesn’t know how to portray victims trauma without adding some weird gay undertones to it does he? Like what was up with those kissing scenes? Completely unnecessary.
I binged the whole thing in two days. You guys won’t be disappointed. The performances left me stunned. Be prepared for a whole rollercoaster of emotions. One of the best series I’ve seen in a while.
If you don’t know a lot about the real case you should look into it the show has a lot on inaccurate information, and really glosses over how bad the abuse really was, there are public court videos and documentary’s and other things that are more accurate. I agree the show as a show eg. The cinematography, directing, and acting are all on point it would have been much better had they made the show completely fictional or simply stated at the beginning that there are inaccuracies and dramatisation.
@@Fullmovieszz Yes I’m aware there were going to be fictionalized portions and dramatic license; it’s Ryan Murphy after all lol. I remember when the case happened but I didn’t follow it closely. I’ve seen several things about it. I thought they got pretty close on a lot of things and went off into Murphy’s fantasies on others but overall I was still riveted by the performances. Episode 6 was my favorite.
Im soooo happy that you, guys made a remark about the soundtrack when the brothers are preparing the kills. Thomas Newman did a phenomenal job with the music. Made me anxious the whole time. Awesome reaction :)
I finished this in one day having it on in the background while I was studying. After I finished, I immediately went to your channel to see if you guys put out a reaction yet. I can’t wait for you guys to see the show!!
Theyre in the background of a now infamous basketball rookie card. When the pic was taken that was used for that card they had already killed the parents.
People who watch this series (not y'all but the audience in general) about the Menendez brothers need to make sure they look deeply into the case before developing a full opinion on the brothers guilt or to what degree they are guilty. There is a TON of info, documentaries (there is another coming out on the 7th), you can watch the brothers actual testimonies, see doctors information from their childhood etc. Monsters WAS a good watch but it also appears to have done a disservice to the brothers. The show has been criticized for their portrayal of Lyle in particular (he was not known by anyone for being so aggressive though Erik always appeared to be the more emotional of the brothers) The insinuation on the brothers relationship with each other was absurd and had no place in the show. In their 1st trials they had countless people back their abuse claims; aunts, uncle, cousins, coaches, teachers etc. Erik has learning disabilities that were ignored by his parents - which is why at times in the show and in his actual trial etc. Erik struggled at times with processing how to respond to things. Both boys had questionable history with their medical issues as children such as a 7 yr old Erik having injuries within his throat that doctors say is consistent with the SA claims. Erik also suffered the SA abuse for many more years than Lyle though both make claims of abuse on all levels (note; they are not the only males who accused their father of SA as minors.) The degree of abuse at all ages and levels would have altered Eriks development truthfully. The spending they did after the crime was committed fell in line with their normal spending. It was normal of their life style. They were also young. Erik was only 18 and Lyle 3 years older so in a lot of ways, Eriks mind WAS still very young and he was a kid. Sure, 18 is a legal adult but we also know..18 is a kid in many ways. Lyle has always said he gave the final k*ll shots. He said it was all to protect his brother and they had threatened to tell on their father and they were fearful of him. Their scattered behavior and poor "planning" after the crime is actually consistent with NOT having premeditation but the boys basically having snapped. This is been one of my favourite (for lack of better phrasing) cases over the years to study (I swear, I am not strange, I studied education, special education, and psychology as majors in college as well took criminal law classes for fun and leaned heavily into my love of psychology which is why I love studying crime!) Back when all of this happened, what happened behind closed doors tended to be left behind closed doors and the brothers fears came true when they were forced to talk about their abuse and SA. They were not believed. They were shamed and embarrassed. Make note the SA abuse was NOT going to be part of their defense but it came to be after a therapist spent 50 hours with Erik and learned what she learned. In the 1st trial for both they had mistrials and the not shocking thing is that the women leaned heavily toward manslaughter but the males leaned toward murder. Eriks jury was 6 men and 6 women. All of the women believed Erik. Dr Oziel was a criminal in his own right with how he interacted with patients - like an affair with a patient - and secretly recorded the brothers. The boys mother had addiction issues and a panic disorder and I believe also a personality disorder (Jose also had an 8 yr affair on her). So yeah, a deep dive will give people a better understanding of the life the boys lived and what is believed - I always believed the brothers and believe they should have been found guilty of a voluntary manslaughter charge. If they were believed and found guilty on the manslaughter charges they'd be free now. The brothers were separated for 22 years but are not again together in the same prison where they are spearheading some things to help prisoners- like painting the prison yard walls to add positivity. I will be quiet now. Lol But again, my favourite case I have looked into for years and I believe the brothers.
Please keep reacting to this show. It is heavy at time and there are inaccuracies but it is very well acted and it does have surprises if you’re new to their story
I binged this series in a day, its def dramatized and like dahmer, theres truths and theres lies in it. I won't get into spoilers but some things lowkey upset me but I have to remind myself that there are many theories about these brothers specifically their relationship/dynamic with eachother and their father.
This is one of the many reasons I love you guys! Y’all always come through. I haven’t seen anyone else react to this after i literally binged the entire thing yesterday lol I love the conversation afterwards too! Day made 🖤
I sobbed so hard throughout the serie, and it also made me realize how naive and how easily one may fall for a narrative without acknowledging an other point of view. (me)
The brothers are innocent, all they wanted was love from the parents. They both told they mom when they were little what was happening as well as family members who also told the mom and she denied. Imagine Erik horror when he realized she knew all along and allowed it to happened. Up to the week they got murdered, Erik was still getting raped and abused daily as a form of punishment: Bad grades get raped Speak back get raped Don’t do good in tennis get raped etc. He manipulated both brothers in keeping it from one another. Erik being the most sensible and sensitive, got it worse and he stayed quiet and didn’t tell lyle because he knew his temper , it wasn’t until that night where they rip Lyle wig off that he confessed to his brother him getting abused since 6. Lyle had no idea and had thought it stopped. Remember abused is taught no one wakes up after 30 years and decides to start hitting raping molesting out of no where. Jose went through it as a kid and normalized it , his way of gettting some of his childhood back or voice he lost was to inflict that same behavior to his child. The brothers grew up and realized it was wrong and decided to end that cycle: it would had continued if they had stayed alive. Imagine if Erik and Lyle would had gotten married or had kids with those grandparents around.
the bbc thing was actually proved to be fabricated/misunderstood as the therapist confused it with the billonares boys club when erik menendez was talking about some program he saw on the british broadcast corporation. also the shooting did not happen as potrayed in the show. in real life, the brothers feared for their lives because of unusual behavour on their parents' part, leading them to believe that they themselves were going to die that night. their larents refused to let them leave the house on the night of the killings and the father told erik to go to his room implying he would follow him to r*pe him, and thats when they went to get their guns and entered the room their parents were in after the altercation. the characterization of lyle menendez is also just that, a character. friends and family have come forward to complain about ryan murphy's version of a very real person. could go on and on about the damage this show has done to the real case.
About the Milli Vinilli stuff, Lyle has said that Milli Vinilii was one of his fathers favorite artists and there songs were just playing when they got the memorial, the brothers didn't choose to play the songs themselves.
I can’t believe it’s already been TWO years since dahmer!! I watched yall reaction to the series and I loved it! So excited when I saw this come up on my recommended. Enjoy the series it’s a good one!!
this series could not be less accurate to what actually happened the only accurate thing is that lyle made the decision to kill their parents because erik told lyle that their father was raping him too.
@@LunarHexagon yes blame the trauma for him going to reload his shotgun after unloading rounds on his parents blowing off their arms and legs and faces. blame the trauma for it all. He had no choice and the trauma made him do it. Puhhhhhlease......
@@AnonymousSaiyan when the man that raped you your whole life and the woman who did nothing but stand aside and do nothing your whole life are dead at your feet... Most ppl would shoot some more, letting all the anger and resentment of a lifetime out. Also why are we acting like we've never seen a scene of a character shooting/stabbing another (dead) character multiple times out of rage/resentment? Like it's a new, never seen before thing? I could probably name 3 scenes like that of the top of my head.
(P.s I could be wrong about what happened with Eric and his brother I'm just saying what I found) This season I sorta looked up about the two killers and law and order the crime show apparently did a episode on this case and even a movie was made about them, What was strange about this case is there was confusion on if what they did was due to the amount of abuse the father put the both of em through and the mother sadly did nothing if I remember. As of September 20th 2024 Eric and Lyle are still currently in prison serving there life sentences, Eric is 53 and Lyle is 56
I love that you guys are reacting to it, but the show does very poorly portrayed the case and very poorly portrays Lyle so it is very inaccurate but it's a good watch
There's not only Erik's comment on this but also other members of the family wrote statements about how inaccurate this show is especially when it comes to Lyle. It's also very bad that Roy isn't mentioned at all, cancelling his own story for the sake of the narrative Ryan Murphy decided to go with. So, please, have that in mind while watching this show.
Be careful !!!! The problem of the show is that in the show the point of view of the family members that supports the brothers and the new evidences found about their father's abuses are completely ignored. So in the show we have the brother's point of view and the one of those who don't believe them. But the family members who witnessed the abuse and knew about it, such as the sister of Kitty menendez, or the cousins of the brothers or their uncle, (all of them have spoken on tv about it many times) are nowhere to be found in the show. And the approach of "make tour own oppinion" could be true 20-10 years ago but nowadays with all the proof the police have found and gathered, it seems at 90% that the brothers were not lying about their father ! The problem is that the showrunner purposely ignored all these elements that are proving the brothers declaration. Of course they are not innocents ! They killed their parents but the reasons behind it are being diminished by those showrunner's action.
To be honest they took too many liberties with this interpretations. Coming from such a high S1 with Dahmer, this season was a bit of a letdown. A nice ride but nothing outstanding to be honest. The love happenings in the shower was weird to include it even though there is no confirm facts of that happening. I wish they hadn't strayed.
Yooo I had no idea the new Monster show is about the real Leather Face I’m actually hyped for it gonna be very gruesome from the documentary he literally tried to make a “skin suit” of his mom full of his Victims pretty insane.
People in the comments apparently don't understand that a drama has no responsibility as a documentary. Guess what? American Horror Story Season 3 Coven has almost zero facts in it - it's everyone's favorite season. This show is awesomely entertaining, and it's getting the brothers (who DID commit premeditated murder) case reviewed. So...
Too many different ways a victim can react. Most think their post to just whimper in the corner & do nothing. I’m not ok’ing that they murdered them, but I can understand… I also know those that was S.A.’d and took their own life… this situation also didn’t just stop wit Erik & Lyle. Former Menundo Member Roy Rosselló was also S.A.’d by Jose Menendez, & try to help the brothers with their case & it was denied.
back w the show that started it all (4 me anyways hehe) but i probably won't be watching bc ryan murphy being his weird self [derogatory] hes so hit or miss nowadays. i feel like s2 should've been john wayne gacy like it was teased in the dahmer show (what was the reason,) and he should've saved the menendez story for american crime story and focused on the courtroom aspect. idk its gonna sound morbid but i think the monsters format only works with serial killers. sorry!!
Hearing that Erik has actually watched the movie(s) that have come out are absolutely not portraying their story accurately/correctly the way it really happened, & with his own statement I’m gonna think twice about watching anything further about this film. Erik should know he was there! So really this statement should have us all pausing to think about how would we like to be portrayed inaccurately? I believe Erik is correct in pointing this out to the public. Think 🤔people.
I've said it before- watch SOA! I know you say you've seen season 1, that's fine. Maybe just condense s1 into 2 or 3 kids, then start with s2. It's one of the best shows of the 21st century and perfect for yalls sensibilities
Ryan Murphy said when he made the show it’s not supposed to be accurate it’s a take on it and wanted to push the story and make different sides of the different stories that where said or people think
See ryan murphy imo made lyle look unhinged and aggressive but i dont think he was actually like that, the show isnt really accurate whatsoever but some bits and peices are but not all of it
Since when did Bebop's fashion sense become an actual look? Weird. If only those actually knew the true background of what a nose ring represents. But I guess meanings change.
As long as you guys beilive they aren’t monsters and just victims I will be happy I hate this show it’s completely inaccurate to the real case Lyle was never a douche and never cussed this much I watched with my partner and friends And my partner is very much close to this case and they were pisssed on how much they destroyed the boys rep in it The boys even stated this show was a joke But there a documentary coming out in October where the boys speak and are going talk about new things and everything Plesze Bridgette and Cody watch the trial on your on time
The way I took this show is that it depicts events from multiple peoples point of view but instead of just hearing about it, we see the boys actually play out the different scenarios. I don’t think this played well with audiences even if I understood the show was trying to go with a “oo who do we believe? Who’s telling the real truth” angle. It’s very well acted but it definitely leans on an unsympathetic position which is enough for many to hate it.
I found y'all thru your reaction to Dahmer and loved it! I'm very disappointed with how they did this season. It seemed like they didn't want to tell the story as much as they wanted to be shocking
@@Dman425Nobody just kills their own parents without a reason. The fact that two of them agreed to do it says enough for me. It’s one thing to have one sibling do it, but to have everyone else agree that mom and dad deserved to go is a whole different story.
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bro i just feel like these kids were sexually abused !! this was not fucking normal .. and i can’t imagine how they felt ! they deserve to serve time but i feel like they got their freedom stripped away twice .. like it’s just too much! and you are closed in with no help or protection from the people who birthed you because they are the same people who harmed you !!!
This is not what happened. Only some scenes are accurate and those are some of scenes of the trial, that's it. Oh and some family matters but that's about it.
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Lyle was balding due to severe stress from being sexually assaulted by his own father and physically abused his mother was also ripping out his hair a lot the hair piece is real he wore it during the trial in court but no longer wears it today.
Back then in the 60-90 abused victims especially men stayed quiet, fear of being not belived judged, now we know so many family members even fathers have committed such nasty things towards they own children. It was Taboo something not spoken about.
Just how many women normalized staying in an abusive marriage because that’s what her own mother did and they normalized it , didn’t report stay quiet that behavior passes on to the next generations
Exactly
Apparently Erik came out with a statement where he talks about how inaccurate this show portrayed the brothers.
a show that literally just came out ? yesterday ?
Yeah, I’m sure the convicted murderer of his parents is upset at being portrayed as a convicted murderer of his parents.
@@LanadelreysWife5Yeah. I guess nobody ever watches a show that came out a day before.
@@LanadelreysWife5it’s literally a show about him and his brother, they most likely watched it before it came out September 19 or read the script
It must've been weird and maybe disturbing seeing a recreation of your own crime being made, even the brutality of the murders.
Unless the brothers have 0 empathy till this day.
Unfortunately this is a very inaccurate portrayal of what really happened. It’s very disappointing that ryan murphy used this story to create his incestuous fanfiction of these two who went through so much at the hands of their father.
Agreed
It makes me so, so mad. Crafting the funeral scene to be so weirdly dramatic when Erik was unable to speak he was so upset, and Lyle gave a wonderful speech, was the first big red flag
Agreed so much
Meh...
Ryan murphy is disrespecting to Erik calling him gay too. Like they are married men to woman
If you watched their actual trials, you would know how effed up their dad was. Erik got raped over 100 times by his OWN father and Kitty didn't do anything, also, Ryan Murphy made it seem like they are the monsters, no, their parents are. He also made it seem like the brothers had a sexual relationship with each other which is completely wrong and totally off topic with the show. Erik and Lyle aren't monsters, they are literal victims. Did they kill their parents? Yes, but they killed them because they were afraid of them, how in the hell are you supposed to live with YOUR OWN parents that rape and abuse you everyday? You can't. Thats why Erik starting getting su1cidal, he just couldn't live with all the trauma. Thankfully, he never did attempt I don't think. They are both survivors. Their whole story is just really sad and now I'm attached to them. It's just unbelievable, I feel so bad for them. But Erik and Lyle now are great, Erik's married (search it up how they got married cus I ain't saying it) and Lyle is doing well, I don't know if he's married or not.
And the actors in the show are literally amazing, nicholas did a great job playing lyle, but like i mentioned, lyle was never that hot headed. You could just tell by looking at him, he was very sweet, and even Erik. Erik wouldnt hurt a fly. And cooper, man cooper did a good effing job playing erik. Best acting ive seen this year.
But some people just need to understand what actually happened behind closed doors.
You are 100% correct
no, Ryan Murphy did not made it seem like they are the monsters LOL, we can literally see theres mutiple perspectives in the show, just like back then. also, all the promo is based on "Are they monsters?", educate yourself
@@MariaMagalhaes-hc8zw you educate yourself, he made it seem like Lyle was the monster
@@savss_editssno he doesn’t. He literally comes out and says the point is to question everyone’s pov and give different perspectives. He doesn’t point the finger at all to one specific person.
@@dredre102906 and u like murphy?
i like how you mention how erik acts like a child and then switches which is just hinting to both of their abuse as children
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they're only defending them because they're attracted to them lol. if the menendez brothers were unattractive no one would care
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@@rosetoi03 The way that's not even true, what r u on? Yk how many ppl don't find them attractive but still support them. You're weird for bringing looks in it!
@@FatherStomach Because they actually acknowledge things unlike you
@@Haniihao there are people on social media making edits about these boys, literally saw one the other day but ok!!
Asking for a second king sized Snickers is hella rude. Move along, kid. 😂
Nicholas Alexander Chavez is a fabulous actor whose known for his role as Spencer Cassadine on General Hospital and iconic super couple aka Sprina! Not surprised that he killed this!
It is important to approach this case/story with sympathy for Erik and Lyle. They're not sociopaths or psychopaths, their behavior is a reflection of the abusive environment they were raised in. Of course, murder is never the answer, and at the same time, there is so much abuse someone can endure before something happens. I would also suggest reading Erik's statement on the show.
I mean hell Erik especially. Everyone described him as sensitive and would cry and he’s the reason they even got caught. He felt so guilty he had to talk to someone, truly sad
they are sociopaths they killed their parents and they lied to get away with it
@@queenxx1690 that’s why Erik folded of guilt after less than a year
Why not just say what the statement is. What an idiotic thing to do to bring up that there is a statement but fail to actually say it.
Also, one can only have sympathy for them if they believe the accusations of abuse, a choice that is very personal so you have no business telling people how to view the brothers.
@@queenxx1690omg shut up
The therapist couldn’t call the police or else he would have lost his license. He could have called the police if they had threatened to kill someone but not for confessing to a murder that’s already happened. The law can be funky like that
You learn something new everyday cuz I was like if I was a therapist. Idc about no confidentiality. Im going to tell someone about this but that makes sense tho
If you watch the trial you can feel how DARK it was in that house, since they were babies! The aunts and cousins testified to some stuff that happened. p.s. That baldness was such an exaggeration, he did start losing his hair young but it wasnt totally bald like that. So sad how the mother tore it off and he was so humiliated. He testified to that in court. 😢
..........I grew up with an abusive mother and older brother. My mother said she left my real father because he abused me, but then she took up the mantle to continue the abuse. My older brother sexually abused me and I say that because --- despite all of that and wanting to kill myself - for years, during and after, I never killed my parents. I never killed my older brother.
@2SanJunipero I am so sorry you went through that, really. But yeah its not an excuse to kill but at the same time not everyone can deal or cope with things the SAME way. Nobody is saying its okay, its just an explanation. I dealt with things differently with things growing up than my sibling did with no emotional regulation or examples of healthy ways to deal with feelings, all that stuff that goes on in an individuals life leads to certain actions or lifestyle.
He was bald like that when he had the hairpiece, because it needed to be bladed to be applied. But before that, it was just thinning.
@@ipurpleu1668 Ohhh, yeah they do like shave it off before applying.
I’m sorry but the way she snatched his wig off
Lyle and Erik have never had an incestuous relationship. They were sexually abused by their own father and after that Lyle began sexually abusing Erik, his own brother.
@@itsthatgirl98_ in what way is fucking your own brother not incestuous?
They could made that up to avoid death penalty it is actually surprising how people justify what they did ,they are other ways to punish your parent for abuse but i read people say parents deserve it people are that sick like wtf is wrong with people all this because they look handsome ?? so we should let them out ???!
15:12 "honey, you were gone your hair was gone ok" 😭😭
She didn't have to humble him like that so quick😂😂😂
This some relationship goals❤😂 fr
Gagged him BAD he needs to get his lick back 😂😂😂
The rule is that if the client comes into the therapy session and says oh, I am going to kill or I have killed. Whoever the therapist has report it to the police, especially if a victim has been identified. It is called the Tarasoff law.
Actually Tarasoff doesn't apply to PAST crimes
@@deathkitten109are you sure? So what law applies when clients confess to crimes he/she has already done?
The actors who played the brothers absolutely killed it with their acting in this series although i don think Ryan Murphy did the story justice a lot of misinformation
He didnt. He has came out said he’s one of those people who dont believe that they were abused at all & that they should be thankful for him. Ryan is a pos
@@vickybabadoo9927 You are crazy...they still killed they parents they deserve prison and so did they parents if abuse ever happen but they did not choose that path they took shotguns and massacred their parents
Generally, a therapist does not have to report a past crime; they have only a duty to warn. This therapist is, clinically speaking, wilin'.
The way they heavily sexualized Erik and Lyles relationship is downright disgusting. This man really just doesn’t know how to portray victims trauma without adding some weird gay undertones to it does he? Like what was up with those kissing scenes? Completely unnecessary.
but there were some rumours about that no ? maybe he had it bc in some people head that was their relationship bc of the abuse
@@justlive2809that was never their relationship. go look at their documentary
I binged the whole thing in two days. You guys won’t be disappointed. The performances left me stunned. Be prepared for a whole rollercoaster of emotions. One of the best series I’ve seen in a while.
If you don’t know a lot about the real case you should look into it the show has a lot on inaccurate information, and really glosses over how bad the abuse really was, there are public court videos and documentary’s and other things that are more accurate.
I agree the show as a show eg. The cinematography, directing, and acting are all on point it would have been much better had they made the show completely fictional or simply stated at the beginning that there are inaccuracies and dramatisation.
@@Fullmovieszz Yes I’m aware there were going to be fictionalized portions and dramatic license; it’s Ryan Murphy after all lol. I remember when the case happened but I didn’t follow it closely. I’ve seen several things about it. I thought they got pretty close on a lot of things and went off into Murphy’s fantasies on others but overall I was still riveted by the performances. Episode 6 was my favorite.
Im soooo happy that you, guys made a remark about the soundtrack when the brothers are preparing the kills. Thomas Newman did a phenomenal job with the music. Made me anxious the whole time. Awesome reaction :)
That was the real 911 phone call u were hearing.
Woahhh
I finished this in one day having it on in the background while I was studying. After I finished, I immediately went to your channel to see if you guys put out a reaction yet. I can’t wait for you guys to see the show!!
Theyre in the background of a now infamous basketball rookie card. When the pic was taken that was used for that card they had already killed the parents.
What rookie
15:07 😂😂😂😂 Funniest part of your commentary! Love the chemistry between you two
"Can i have another one?"
Lyle : "The fuck are you talking about? Thats a king size snicker" idk why this has me dead! 😂
People who watch this series (not y'all but the audience in general) about the Menendez brothers need to make sure they look deeply into the case before developing a full opinion on the brothers guilt or to what degree they are guilty. There is a TON of info, documentaries (there is another coming out on the 7th), you can watch the brothers actual testimonies, see doctors information from their childhood etc. Monsters WAS a good watch but it also appears to have done a disservice to the brothers. The show has been criticized for their portrayal of Lyle in particular (he was not known by anyone for being so aggressive though Erik always appeared to be the more emotional of the brothers) The insinuation on the brothers relationship with each other was absurd and had no place in the show. In their 1st trials they had countless people back their abuse claims; aunts, uncle, cousins, coaches, teachers etc.
Erik has learning disabilities that were ignored by his parents - which is why at times in the show and in his actual trial etc. Erik struggled at times with processing how to respond to things. Both boys had questionable history with their medical issues as children such as a 7 yr old Erik having injuries within his throat that doctors say is consistent with the SA claims. Erik also suffered the SA abuse for many more years than Lyle though both make claims of abuse on all levels (note; they are not the only males who accused their father of SA as minors.) The degree of abuse at all ages and levels would have altered Eriks development truthfully.
The spending they did after the crime was committed fell in line with their normal spending. It was normal of their life style.
They were also young. Erik was only 18 and Lyle 3 years older so in a lot of ways, Eriks mind WAS still very young and he was a kid. Sure, 18 is a legal adult but we also know..18 is a kid in many ways.
Lyle has always said he gave the final k*ll shots. He said it was all to protect his brother and they had threatened to tell on their father and they were fearful of him.
Their scattered behavior and poor "planning" after the crime is actually consistent with NOT having premeditation but the boys basically having snapped.
This is been one of my favourite (for lack of better phrasing) cases over the years to study (I swear, I am not strange, I studied education, special education, and psychology as majors in college as well took criminal law classes for fun and leaned heavily into my love of psychology which is why I love studying crime!) Back when all of this happened, what happened behind closed doors tended to be left behind closed doors and the brothers fears came true when they were forced to talk about their abuse and SA. They were not believed. They were shamed and embarrassed. Make note the SA abuse was NOT going to be part of their defense but it came to be after a therapist spent 50 hours with Erik and learned what she learned. In the 1st trial for both they had mistrials and the not shocking thing is that the women leaned heavily toward manslaughter but the males leaned toward murder. Eriks jury was 6 men and 6 women. All of the women believed Erik.
Dr Oziel was a criminal in his own right with how he interacted with patients - like an affair with a patient - and secretly recorded the brothers.
The boys mother had addiction issues and a panic disorder and I believe also a personality disorder (Jose also had an 8 yr affair on her). So yeah, a deep dive will give people a better understanding of the life the boys lived and what is believed - I always believed the brothers and believe they should have been found guilty of a voluntary manslaughter charge. If they were believed and found guilty on the manslaughter charges they'd be free now.
The brothers were separated for 22 years but are not again together in the same prison where they are spearheading some things to help prisoners- like painting the prison yard walls to add positivity.
I will be quiet now. Lol But again, my favourite case I have looked into for years and I believe the brothers.
Please keep reacting to this show. It is heavy at time and there are inaccuracies but it is very well acted and it does have surprises if you’re new to their story
I binged this series in a day, its def dramatized and like dahmer, theres truths and theres lies in it. I won't get into spoilers but some things lowkey upset me but I have to remind myself that there are many theories about these brothers specifically their relationship/dynamic with eachother and their father.
@@1b0y4me why's everyone say low key in every fuckin sentence?
Dahmer was definitely better, Atleast in my opinion. Hopefully season 3 is just as good.
This is one of the many reasons I love you guys! Y’all always come through. I haven’t seen anyone else react to this after i literally binged the entire thing yesterday lol I love the conversation afterwards too! Day made 🖤
I sobbed so hard throughout the serie, and it also made me realize how naive and how easily one may fall for a narrative without acknowledging an other point of view. (me)
The brothers are innocent, all they wanted was love from the parents. They both told they mom when they were little what was happening as well as family members who also told the mom and she denied. Imagine Erik horror when he realized she knew all along and allowed it to happened. Up to the week they got murdered, Erik was still getting raped and abused daily as a form of punishment:
Bad grades get raped
Speak back get raped
Don’t do good in tennis get raped etc.
He manipulated both brothers in keeping it from one another. Erik being the most sensible and sensitive, got it worse and he stayed quiet and didn’t tell lyle because he knew his temper , it wasn’t until that night where they rip Lyle wig off that he confessed to his brother him getting abused since 6. Lyle had no idea and had thought it stopped.
Remember abused is taught no one wakes up after 30 years and decides to start hitting raping molesting out of no where. Jose went through it as a kid and normalized it , his way of gettting some of his childhood back or voice he lost was to inflict that same behavior to his child. The brothers grew up and realized it was wrong and decided to end that cycle: it would had continued if they had stayed alive. Imagine if Erik and Lyle would had gotten married or had kids with those grandparents around.
Babe you’re spoiling everything they dont know all the details yet but i agree with what u said
blah blah blah
@@destiny8128spoiling the details… of a real life crime? Ok
Innocent? They killed their parents
@@Guyvermectin the why is what matters
i'm pretty sure they portrayed lyle very bad in this series, which makes him look like a horrible person.
Well, he killed his parents.
@@Dman425for a good cause.
@@MariaDonkova there is never a good reason to murder someone. Some of you are so gullible and lost!
@@NikaiaHepi-Taratoa he is a horrible person. Hense the life in jail thing
@Dman425 you don't know anything about the case
the bbc thing was actually proved to be fabricated/misunderstood as the therapist confused it with the billonares boys club when erik menendez was talking about some program he saw on the british broadcast corporation.
also the shooting did not happen as potrayed in the show. in real life, the brothers feared for their lives because of unusual behavour on their parents' part, leading them to believe that they themselves were going to die that night. their larents refused to let them leave the house on the night of the killings and the father told erik to go to his room implying he would follow him to r*pe him, and thats when they went to get their guns and entered the room their parents were in after the altercation.
the characterization of lyle menendez is also just that, a character. friends and family have come forward to complain about ryan murphy's version of a very real person. could go on and on about the damage this show has done to the real case.
"honey.."
"what happened?"
took me tf out
🤣🤣🤣🤣
About the Milli Vinilli stuff, Lyle has said that Milli Vinilii was one of his fathers favorite artists and there songs were just playing when they got the memorial, the brothers didn't choose to play the songs themselves.
I can’t believe it’s already been TWO years since dahmer!! I watched yall reaction to the series and I loved it! So excited when I saw this come up on my recommended. Enjoy the series it’s a good one!!
this series could not be less accurate to what actually happened the only accurate thing is that lyle made the decision to kill their parents because erik told lyle that their father was raping him too.
and the other accurate part was that erik was extremely suicidal afterwards the murder.
The chills I got when Lyle reloaded & went back in… like I don’t think you needed to do that, my dude. 🫤😐
He didn’t need to do that, but trauma is fucking weird. :/.
That is actually how it happened in real life
@@LunarHexagon yes blame the trauma for him going to reload his shotgun after unloading rounds on his parents blowing off their arms and legs and faces. blame the trauma for it all. He had no choice and the trauma made him do it. Puhhhhhlease......
@@AnonymousSaiyan You are not a very smart person are you?
@@AnonymousSaiyan when the man that raped you your whole life and the woman who did nothing but stand aside and do nothing your whole life are dead at your feet... Most ppl would shoot some more, letting all the anger and resentment of a lifetime out. Also why are we acting like we've never seen a scene of a character shooting/stabbing another (dead) character multiple times out of rage/resentment? Like it's a new, never seen before thing? I could probably name 3 scenes like that of the top of my head.
(P.s I could be wrong about what happened with Eric and his brother I'm just saying what I found)
This season I sorta looked up about the two killers and law and order the crime show apparently did a episode on this case and even a movie was made about them,
What was strange about this case is there was confusion on if what they did was due to the amount of abuse the father put the both of em through and the mother sadly did nothing if I remember.
As of September 20th 2024
Eric and Lyle are still currently in prison serving there life sentences, Eric is 53 and Lyle is 56
@@toddlacroix8992 Mother was hella abusive as well!
@@toddlacroix8992 is there any actual proof of abuse though?
@@Chriswallace0405yes there was. You keep defending abusers & p3dos. Why? You definitely need to be on a watchlist
I love that you guys are reacting to it, but the show does very poorly portrayed the case and very poorly portrays Lyle so it is very inaccurate but it's a good watch
This show was so gooddd i like binged in in 2 days sooo excited to see you guys reacting to this season cuz i neeeddd more people to talk about itttt
just discovered yall, excited for the rest of this series reactions!
There's not only Erik's comment on this but also other members of the family wrote statements about how inaccurate this show is especially when it comes to Lyle.
It's also very bad that Roy isn't mentioned at all, cancelling his own story for the sake of the narrative Ryan Murphy decided to go with. So, please, have that in mind while watching this show.
Who is Roy ?
@@itswelly03 Roy Rosselló is another victim of Jose. You can watch the documentary Menendez + Menudo: Boys Betrayed to know more about him.
Roy Rosello a former member of Menudo. He admits Jose raped him multiple times and Eduardo Diaz helped it happen.
@@itswelly03roy rossello, he was a menudo member and has alleged that jose drugged and raped him when he was a teenager
Started watching this yesterday and Please be advised for some coming up episodes that are very heartbreaking
Be careful !!!! The problem of the show is that in the show the point of view of the family members that supports the brothers and the new evidences found about their father's abuses are completely ignored. So in the show we have the brother's point of view and the one of those who don't believe them. But the family members who witnessed the abuse and knew about it, such as the sister of Kitty menendez, or the cousins of the brothers or their uncle, (all of them have spoken on tv about it many times) are nowhere to be found in the show. And the approach of "make tour own oppinion" could be true 20-10 years ago but nowadays with all the proof the police have found and gathered, it seems at 90% that the brothers were not lying about their father ! The problem is that the showrunner purposely ignored all these elements that are proving the brothers declaration. Of course they are not innocents ! They killed their parents but the reasons behind it are being diminished by those showrunner's action.
Two brothers one shotgun was a gross out video that went viral 9 years ago.
It is insane how much Lyle looks like Sebastian stan
Yeah it's insane how nicholas chavez looks like sebastian stan-
The music is so well done especially that last bit of the episode when they walk out from the therapist office
To be honest they took too many liberties with this interpretations. Coming from such a high S1 with Dahmer, this season was a bit of a letdown. A nice ride but nothing outstanding to be honest. The love happenings in the shower was weird to include it even though there is no confirm facts of that happening. I wish they hadn't strayed.
Love happenings? 😂
Yooo I had no idea the new Monster show is about the real Leather Face I’m actually hyped for it gonna be very gruesome from the documentary he literally tried to make a “skin suit” of his mom full of his Victims pretty insane.
did not expect peaky blinders season 2 to start off like this, such a tonal shift
Wildly insensitive, disrespectfully stfu.
God man they should be freed
I want to feel sorry for them for what they went through. But man after I seen the gruesome killings its hard idk... 😶😶😯👀👀
People in the comments apparently don't understand that a drama has no responsibility as a documentary.
Guess what? American Horror Story Season 3 Coven has almost zero facts in it - it's everyone's favorite season.
This show is awesomely entertaining, and it's getting the brothers (who DID commit premeditated murder) case reviewed. So...
Javier in this looks almost identical to my grandpa, fucking trips me out
I wish Netflix would do the 'Billy Milligan" Story next..
Too many different ways a victim can react. Most think their post to just whimper in the corner & do nothing. I’m not ok’ing that they murdered them, but I can understand… I also know those that was S.A.’d and took their own life… this situation also didn’t just stop wit Erik & Lyle. Former Menundo Member Roy Rosselló was also S.A.’d by Jose Menendez, & try to help the brothers with their case & it was denied.
The parents were the monsters not the boys
back w the show that started it all (4 me anyways hehe) but i probably won't be watching bc ryan murphy being his weird self [derogatory] hes so hit or miss nowadays. i feel like s2 should've been john wayne gacy like it was teased in the dahmer show (what was the reason,) and he should've saved the menendez story for american crime story and focused on the courtroom aspect. idk its gonna sound morbid but i think the monsters format only works with serial killers. sorry!!
And the menedez bros had a cross over with the OJ Simpson case
@@jessicagudino8461 yeah! didn't one of the lawyers on the dream team say he organized one of the brother's surrender?
Because of dahmer i followd you!!. Was a very cool ride with you guys
Hair loss at his age, in his teens... that is a sign of stress ( and abuse).
Fr.
Hearing that Erik has actually watched the movie(s) that have come out are absolutely not portraying their story accurately/correctly the way it really happened, & with his own statement I’m gonna think twice about watching anything further about this film. Erik should know he was there! So really this statement should have us all pausing to think about how would we like to be portrayed inaccurately? I believe Erik is correct in pointing this out to the public. Think 🤔people.
I always thought it was Lyles idea...
This show is very inaccurate when portraying the brothers and for that reason the only thing that saved the show for me was the performances
I've said it before- watch SOA! I know you say you've seen season 1, that's fine. Maybe just condense s1 into 2 or 3 kids, then start with s2. It's one of the best shows of the 21st century and perfect for yalls sensibilities
15:14 she gagged tf outta him😂😂😂😂😂
Ryan Murphy said when he made the show it’s not supposed to be accurate it’s a take on it and wanted to push the story and make different sides of the different stories that where said or people think
See ryan murphy imo made lyle look unhinged and aggressive but i dont think he was actually like that, the show isnt really accurate whatsoever but some bits and peices are but not all of it
Karate Kid 3 playing in the Theatre. Please tell me you guys have watched all 3 and Cobra Kai
TCBY- The countries best yogurt! I used to go there as a kid since we weren’t allowed ice cream. It was before the FroYo craze .
Great show, just finished it yesterday. You guys are gonna love it.
After watching Dahmer off of your channel i was hooked instantly, now we get a part 2!!!
TCBY had me throwing back. They're all gone in my neck of the woods
Since when did Bebop's fashion sense become an actual look? Weird. If only those actually knew the true background of what a nose ring represents. But I guess meanings change.
As long as you guys beilive they aren’t monsters and just victims I will be happy
I hate this show it’s completely inaccurate to the real case
Lyle was never a douche and never cussed this much
I watched with my partner and friends
And my partner is very much close to this case and they were pisssed on how much they destroyed the boys rep in it
The boys even stated this show was a joke
But there a documentary coming out in October where the boys speak and are going talk about new things and everything
Plesze Bridgette and Cody watch the trial on your on time
about the documentary it will be out on which platform?
@@rosivlyz Netflix
@@rosivlyzNetflix
I would say this show is 50% fiction 25% truth 25% true but lot more dramatic in certain areas so can’t believe a lot of the details
18:37 what do u mean you weren’t expecting them to show the killings when it’s the main part of this whole case and show
I think he meant the level of brutality they showed on TV, we were obviously gonna see them dead
@Tronjon4278 Obviously the look is fake af, but in terms of the acts of violence that were happening, it was absolutely brutal. Relax.
Ryan murphy takes a lot of liberties
ERIC WAS ON HIS WAY TO BE A TENNIS PRO.
This show is FANTASTIC!
This show was so brutal first episode gave me chills
You didn't know that TCBY was a frozen yogurt chain? How old are you guys?
We were born in the early 90s 🤷🏻♂️💀
@@BRIDGECO1Boo this man
The way I took this show is that it depicts events from multiple peoples point of view but instead of just hearing about it, we see the boys actually play out the different scenarios. I don’t think this played well with audiences even if I understood the show was trying to go with a “oo who do we believe? Who’s telling the real truth” angle.
It’s very well acted but it definitely leans on an unsympathetic position which is enough for many to hate it.
TCBY was a frozen yogurt shop.....I think they're outta business now😮
Wait I didn't know we were getting Leatherface lore for season 3
They don’t deserve the sentence that they were given
Would you do it to your parents if they abused you ?
Like I know this is supposed to be serious but you guys make me laugh. 😅
First episode was a gut punch. Music made me laugh.
I shouldn’t laugh, but when his mom yanked off his wig I lost it😂😂😂
@@melanated_persephone2334 the entire scene had massive Kyle gass in the pick of destiny vibes 🤣
I found y'all thru your reaction to Dahmer and loved it! I'm very disappointed with how they did this season. It seemed like they didn't want to tell the story as much as they wanted to be shocking
I couldn't watch all of the scenes of them explaining but from what I watched the parents had to go!
Then, you leave them and start a new life somewhere else. They were greedy also. Something that isn’t talked about
@@Dman425 True
@@Dman425 You clearly don't know everything. Do your research
@@deborahbala7756 they needed a reason for what they did. They should of left them if things were so bad
@@Dman425Nobody just kills their own parents without a reason. The fact that two of them agreed to do it says enough for me. It’s one thing to have one sibling do it, but to have everyone else agree that mom and dad deserved to go is a whole different story.
bro i just feel like these kids were sexually abused !! this was not fucking normal .. and i can’t imagine how they felt ! they deserve to serve time but i feel like they got their freedom stripped away twice .. like it’s just too much! and you are closed in with no help or protection from the people who birthed you because they are the same people who harmed you !!!
Notice the MILLIE VANILLI song at end?????😎😎
Javier Bardem is SCARY!!!! GREAT ACTOR❤❤❤
The crimes, the trial, the horror...I REMEMBER IT WELL😵😵😵😵😵
NEVER been to a funeral videotaped!!! OMG!!!!
This is not what happened. Only some scenes are accurate and those are some of scenes of the trial, that's it. Oh and some family matters but that's about it.
I've got the day off and this is the perfect way to start it 🙌
Nicholas Alexander Chavez (Lyle) is also in Ryan Murphys grotesquierie....
I hope for season 4 and after they do h.h Holmes and John Wayne gacy
And what ?!??! I thought it was confirmed gacy was season three