NEW Morgan Plus Six: Road Review | Carfection 4K
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- Henry Catchpole drives the new BMW-powered Morgan Plus Six and discovers if the introduction of the BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra engine has been a success.
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That gear selector hurts to look at
Jep! - The LED stripe in the front lights also look weired...
@@Eratosthenes0815 I think the LED strip looks amazing. Remind me of what they did with the mid cycle refresh on the last generation RR Phantom
Looks like the old WW2 blackout covers on Jeep headlights. I like it.
And the paddles. It also sounds a bit like a Dyson.
A LOT!
Are you joking with that gear selector, it looks horrible in that car
It must be part of the deal with BMW or something - surely they wouldn't choose that...!
@@Carfection Oof, fingers crossed for the Plus Seven then!
Haha I read the comment and was waiting to see what the fuss was about. I take your point!
Ironically, it's the only thing in that interior that isn't designed or build like shit.
I am pretty sure that modern automatic gear selector is nothing else than electronic switches and a bit of SW. They could have replaced those switches with some cool buttons at least.
Exterior: wow
Interior: oof, especially the gear shifter
It looks awful from any angle
...the gear shifter and everything else in the interior. Morgan needs to work with Frontline Developments' design team for a total makeover.
Unlike you, i like the interior. But i will agree, i do not like that BMW gear knob/lever it looks so very aftermarket and stuck on in this car lol.
But then when they redesign the interior into a modern and flashy feel, it won't fit the styling of the car and it makes it look bizzare. But i would agree that gear knob needs to be removed and replaced with just a column shifter.
BMW is handing out the B58 engine like they're on a charity campaign.
_On the News : Next Mitsubishi Mirage to have the B58_
Yeah. That's called business.
Hahahahhaha this actually made me laugh
Probably because that motor and tranny is literally THE BEST powertrain out right now. I had it in my /M240i and it was INSANELY brilliant!!!
@@raymondnewbill5294 I've only had experience with BMW's straight six's with the 435i Convertible a family friend let me take out. The pops and burbles on downshifts and upshifts were absolutely intoxicating. I can only imagine how much better the B58 is over the N55.
Needs a manual with a wood gear shifter.
Metal to metal*
Agreed. Never mind the selector, just needs a a manual. What’s the point of buying a car like this if it doesn’t offer the driving experience to match.
Makes sense a wooden gear shifter for a wooden car
Agreed! In spades! Any two-seater, rear-wheel-drive roadster must have a manual, stick shift, transmission with polished wooden shifter knob and steering wheel as options.
Out of all the cars using that engine, I feel the Morgan is the one that should have been a manual.
The Z4 and Supra are modern GT/Sports cars, so I can understand the exclusively automatic gearbox. But isn't the appeal of a Morgan that it is intended to feel more raw and involving?
I heard it's coming later
Though I agree they are better suited to auto than that morgan, the Supra and Z4 need manual options too.
@@jordanbanko5347 it hasn’t yet
Absolutely no idea why it doesn’t have a manual box. Ruined.
If BMW didn't make a manual with the b58, good luck. I'm sure they will add it once it's available, but manual transmission options take a low priority
@@NatoriousGamePlay No they don't. Almost nobody in Europe buys an automatic outside of big luxury cars.
BeyerT1 that’s not true at all. A LOT of people buy autos even on sports cars. Morgan don’t have the resources to develop their own manual box.
BMW may make a manual B58 but your assertion is patently false
@@wasdwasdwwasd What assertion? That it is ruined?
Which knobbead thought keeping the knob was a good idea? I literally threw up in my mouth.
small budget decided it was a good idea
The idiots who build morgans use a tree litreally for the main chassis.
@@stephenbachman132 the body frame is ash yes. This chassis is aluminium. No Morgan in history has used a wooden chassis. They've always been steel until recent update. Who is the idiot now?
@@stephenbachman132 the idiot with poor knowledge since they've never had a wooden chassis 😂
As the average age of a Morgan owner is 85 yrs old they need an automatic box got it !!
Some say under the Toyota Supra you’ll find a wooden chassis...
Not made of wood, but wooden to drive with wooden steering feel.
@@stevenkelby2169 ??
@@nf1369 Wooden steering = poor steering feel /no feedback.
@@stevenkelby2169 Funny you say that because that's the opposite of what many reviewers have mentioned about the Supra.
All we know is, he’s not a Supra…but Supra’s British cousin
The cost of getting a Morgan legally saleable in Australia means that it's a very rare site on our roads, but I think it looks great and I can't see anything wrong with the interior. It does look a bit like the interior's we are used to seeing in high end hot rods but I see that as a positive thing. I suspect that after a couple of months of ownership other cars would seem rather lacking in flair. It probably should be a manual but perhaps it was to big a job to separate the auto from the computer. No car made in low numbers is cheap so its not too expensive. I can't have one but I'm glad it exists.
I wish brands just stopped using dry weights. Maybe all the performance measures should be conducted in that configuration too! Would get you a nice 0-60 of however steep the hill is.
Love it. Perfect mix of modern and classic. So much more character than 99.9% of the mundane boring sports cars out there
After seeing that gear selector I’m genuinely struggling to watch the rest of the video. Quite upsetting overall.
Very Distressing.
I remember the time when Charles Morgan himself is one of the host at this channel. Will he ever featured again here?
rockzs74r - No. He won’t be.
Carfection probably don’t want him stealing their money to fund his mistresses.
I love mr Morgan’s voice he could read me bed time stories
I am so jealous of Europe. You guys have such nice roads. In Canada ours are riddled with potholes and we have an unfortunate lack of twisty roads.
Nie jest aż tak cudownie, jak myślisz. Przyjedź do Polski po zimie, na wiosnę. Wtedy zobaczysz dziurę na dziurze i masę odszkodowań za uszkodzone koła i zawieszenia. Po 2-3 tygodniach drogi już są naprawione i znów można latać. Tylko, że mandaty bardzo podrożały w Polsce i na policję oraz fotoradary trzeba uważać.
Morgan jest fajny pod warunkiem, że jeździsz nim bez dachu. Jak założysz dach, do szału doprowadza świst powietrza i klekotanie niektórych elementów. Nie słychać tego podczas jazdy bez dachu, bo wtedy czujesz dzikość morgana i otaczającą naturę. Osobiście z brytyjskich zabawek wybrał bym jednak tvr chimaera. A najchętniej model cerbera ze stałym dachem. Nie mam na myśli kształtu nadwozia, a użyte materiały. Nie lubię drewna, ani aluminium. Wolę stal i laminat. Szkoda, że tvr już nie istnieje.
Absolutely wonderful looking car I love it! This is pure lottery win for me. For all those talking about the gear lever, the cost to develop a new one must be much much bigger than anyone imagines. The Toyota also uses the same. So there’s clearly a very good reason why it wasn’t so simple to change. A company like Morgan can’t develop a manual box either if one doesn’t exist off the shelf. They just don’t have the resources. Great car, wish Morgan all the best for the future 🙏
Henry, you are just one of the best in world, to do what you do. Love all of your films. Keep up the great job.
I audibly laughed when I saw that BMW gear selector. What in god's name were they thinking!?!? Were they thinking?
Yeah, anyone who's okay with this car knows absolutely nothing about what Morgan were, and what they're supposed to be.
Of course they weren't thinking! Where did you get the idea Morgan ever did think?
The BMW Auto box is to appeal to all those who can't drive properly, have spare cash and think that buying a Morgan is the cool thing to do. - just as they approach their 65th birthday and sell up to retire to the countryside or beach. I can see why Morgan used the BMW engine, but Borg-Warner or Getrag should have a 6 speed manual, that's bolts straight on. But then, Auto boxes and their reliability are hard to beat
That interior is bloody awful!! the Horrendous BMW gear shifter has been mentioned too many times in the comments... but what about that Sport + button?? I would be revoke my order faster than this thing may accelerate. I'd take the + 4 over this purely for that reason.
I always like the looks of old English roadsters but haven't driven one I hope I could drive one in the future
Surely a low mileage V8 is the way to go...
Those headlights sum the car up for me, needlessly new. I love the manual v8 Morgans that had a dirty old soul.
It looks really classically modern and as always a superb review and excellent photography.
That 4:3 ratio is perfect. Well done lol
Morgan should have gone to Lotus and put one of their supercharged Toyota engines in with their lovely manual gearshifts because that engine sounds better and better the harder you push it.
+ it will be more reliable
@@raupenimmersatt6906 The B58 is way more reliable than you think lmao
A 4 cylinder? That would be pretty dumb for a Morgan.
@@Arman-nl6mg I was thinking about the V6 from the Evora 410.
@@JamesYoung61 that would've made it heavier compared to the B58
There is no substitute for true British motoring-the sounds, the smells, the feel.
Nothing compares.
Living on the North Wales border is never taken for granted when it comes to some of the best roads in the world to drive on :)
Good on you Henry got it spot on at the end there - the idea of a car as an adventure is fundamental
Well produced video. Someone should take this to 'Pure Turbos' to get a B58 Stage 2 upgrade for 540hp+. That amount of power in a 1000kg body that looks like a car from the 1940s will be a deathtrap and an unexpected missile!
It'll need very grippy tyres, like Michellin Cup 2s maybe hahaha
Morgan, please! Catchpole does a great job of putting us in the driver seat. EVO dna all over the quality of this review. Everyone at Carfection should learn from his journalistic stylings.
Gorgeous car, a perfect balance of classic and modern design and features. I assume the BMW shift knob is there for cost reasons: not only it was cheaper and faster to marry the BMW engine with its corresponding BMW transmission, but because the knob is so "integral" to the transmission itself (what with all those buttons and LED indicators for the shift positions), a custom-designed knob would've been too expensive for Morgan. and IMHO it doesn't detract that much from the beauty and "Britishness" of this car.
Two manufacturers have went to BMW for the B58. It really must be a great engine.....but BMW does make a great I6
Designer: hmmm it feels like theres something wrong... but I just can’t seem to put my... fingers on it...
This is one of my dream cars! The charm and pantomime is second to none.
What I CANNOT BELIEVE is that Morgan is producing cars TODAY and Wiesmann is out of business. Their top down cars were sooo much more beautiful.
…a Z4 for those chasing the past glory of UK motoring - great attention to detail by Morgan
At first I was a bit worried..but now I love this combination ☺️👍 well done Morgan
Regardless of the gear shifter, the look is fantastic. Most people won't even see the shifter, the car is so cool. Sounds like a great cruiser for those that can afford a nice weekend cruiser.
nope, i'll have a caterham and bolt some wooden planks onto it... at least that has a manual gearbox
I visited Morgan factory this week and joined the factory tour. It was fascinating to see the details of production and witnessing the heritage. However, I also learned that 9 out of 10 car that Morgan produce has the automatic transmission. I think, a real petrolhead would never fancy that. And I also think Morgan is too expensive what it offers, therefore the company is not really targeting petrolheads at all.
Great video as always! Greetings from South Africa!
It's the charm gone? (I have a 3 Wheeler and a 4/4 1800 not because they are fast and modern, but because they are special...)
No man, this thing should have a manual transmission. Seeing that bmw gear selector was a total turnoff.
Don't even know abou the car but whole time amazed by the views
Cymru 🏴
I like the style of the Plus Six. Has a nostalgic tone, the way it whips down UK roads like it was being reunited with the asphalt. And uh, if the B58 available as a crate engine? Is BMW desperate for something? Just asking.
www.bmw-powertrain.com/en/home/
They sell crate engines to every customer that uses them in 100 or more vehicles
No abs, no esp, no esc, no another ridiclous acronym in terms of driver's assistants ... = Perfect machine
Automatic gearbox in a Morgan? No, thanks.
That BMW gear selector ruins the car for me
Need more cars like this
"bad money drives out good" [Gresham-Copernicus law]
As you said in your later vid about the new Plus Four: it has all the power you need and a manual gear box with a stick you don't have to be ashamed of.
Nice looking car i am surprised at a few of the bits left in. The gear shifter why not change that out. A few other things. That are important to a car like this
I just checked the BMW website, thinking that maybe the manual gearbox had been dropped from the option list on the M4, but it's still offered. I'm disappointed that the manual wasn't in this car... regardless of the fact that it's not liable to find it's way into my garage anyway. My 19 year old 330xi will probably be there for quite a while yet. I like it far better than any of the new models. The 5-speed and all-wheel-drive will get my anywhere I need to go, any time I need to get there.
Auto box is just right. With an ageing population they are aiming sales at the older age groups. Morgan's research shows that this age group has more disposable income than millennials.
The above is said in jest so more serious point.
Did anyone think that the horn/centre hub looked like a MINIS badge?
Ribie
Number 1 on my Christmas list
As Always High Quality Original Content
There are different models with different shifters , what I like about Morgan is their GT model and some mew one off models. If you guy have time ,please take a tour of their factory , it was an amazing experience for me .
Great video, my question is: where are you driving? It’s such a beautiful road!
A fantastic car to say anything else is sour grapes. Outside the British Isles the best place to drive this magnificent automobile is the coast line of Nova Scotia with special emphases on the Cape Breton Highlands National Park. Other great locations out side of Europe would include the coast of NFLD. Both are great summer drives in a Morgan.
Harry potter driving a Morgan and nearly hit Shaun the sheep in British road, amazing!!!!!!
Apart from that gear selector and the steering wheel I'm on it.
In maybe about 30 years eh?
It looks AWESOME, I would love to own one... it looks comfortable enough to travel the 49 states...
I don’t see a problem with the gear selector. Nice car.
Should have the option of a manual in this card and a normally aspirated version.
I have been obsessive about Morgans since the past few weeks. And what a wonderful time this video dropped in!
The only way I'm taking this over a Z4 is:
A) it would need to have a hard roof w/ wind up windows (not that god awful drive-thru slide window),
B) the steering wheel would have to be changed and new paddles (aluminum or carbon) attached,
C) the gear knob needs to the thrown out and replaced w/ a wooden knob with the gears milled into the face (stained in a cherry wood color, w/ ivory colored paint to fill the gear markings that were milled, and all of it cleared in an eggshell finish),
D) those seats would be tossed out and replaced with something with a bit more bolstering.
With all of those changes made it would probably be well north of $120,000 and I would just go buy something else at that point.
I Iive near here and recently applied for a new job just so this road would be my commute.
Brilliant review. Thank you
Very impressive - don't want it to be too modern or comfy, not why you'd likely be interested in a Morgan in the first place. Racing green paint job with cap to match.
Same drivetrain as BMW M140i/M240i, not just Z4 M40i or Zupra. Lotus steering wheel?
Its Sooo sad to hear that car slushing into gear! The only good points about this review is Henry....Keep up the good work Henry, there will be other proper cars to follow, I'm sure ..
If I had the money I'd get a plus8 or plus 4 because they have a proper manual transmission. Thanks.
I love the all electric Morgan. I love the Morgan style.
Watched until 2:07; I feel proud I got that far, after seeing that stillborn interior.
This is one of my dream cars. It's so unpratical that I can see that will be hard to enjoy it. But it is a beauty.
I owned a BMW 335i with the same engine and its a cracking unit.... No turbo lag and tons of torque from low revs.. Drove like a small block V8 but higher revving at the top. Mine was manual and dont know why this isnt a manual?
Nope your talking about the n55 or n54 this is the b58
Somebody will make an aftermarket gear stick eventually
Beautiful car! (I agree with others that the gear selector is a dissonant design element.)
BMW must be making a fortune selling that B58 engine off to other brands... Shame no one else can be bothered to put the time and money into developing a new engine.
It obviously didn’t break down as many times as my Aero Coupe did because the video made it to 8 minutes! Morgan entitled a previous works event “Run for the Hills” and I suggested to their MD that any prospective customer should do just that! Barge pole, not Catchpole, comes to mind.....
What road is that at the start of the video? Looks stunning!
Wales
There are a fair few roads in Wales
Fantastic video, Henry can you do a similar review of the Frontline Abingdon Edition? Both cars are similar prices and I think would appeal to a similar audience.
It’s one of two launch models. It will change for production. They have to ditch the shifter for a wooden or alloy knob and a manual box option! Auto will have a more retro looking alloy selector or push button and lose the auto stick. Has paddle shifters anyway.
How much does this cost?
U all complaining about the gear selector but not mentioning the engine it is attached to...... At least be happy that BMW gave it a proper engine and there were no complaints about the way the gearbox performed..... Maybe Morgan's are bought only to be sat in, me thinks!
Nice Morgan Plus Sixra Z4
Someone could make a few quid selling an aftermarket leather sleeve for the shifter.
Excellent video!
Great Video Review. I would choose the Morgan
The interior has lost something. It doesn't look right at all. And despite it being 'hand crafted', £90,000 is a complete joke. It doesn't even sound good.
Shogun serious disconnect between the classic exterior and the semi-bling interior
@@JohnSmith-mm1oi Interior isn't even semi-bling; it's just semi-blah. Morgan needs to work with Frontline Developments' design team for a total makeover.
That shifter is a deal-breaker, both for what it is, and what it isn't.
Car looks like
Something I would drive once, then sale it . 8/10
Love the show .
Keep them coming.
I really hope that they're working on an improved Aero so we can get the Blood'n'Thunder sound track back.
First I miss the sound of the V8 - no replacement for that. Secondly, that gear shift knob seems out of place in a Morgan. Third, what are the two holes in the side windows for? They look unfinished and could use a metal through-fitting. Fourth, no manual transmission? So this drives better but seems a mish mash of old and new. Give me some Smith gauges, a manual transmission with a wood gearshift knob, a V8, and I would be much happier.
Love the car, exterior & interior colours but I'd have dark coloured rims & a corresponding bonnet stripe.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Magnific car's British ! I love it's!
Love that 4:3 ratio
The idea is excellent. Execution not so much. Needed a retro internal look.
why the interior isn’t dark brown? it would match well with the moonstone color
Love the gear selector.