Mangawhai bar crossing - 11.08.2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- In todays adventures, we witness what is NEARLY the largest mass casualty event to occur in New Zealand in the last 5 years...
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Geez mate! We've just had 3 drown "attempting" to cross the Riverton bar. Some people don't seem to reckonise what "danger" is! Sadly, to their detriment! 😱
Ahhh, that’s sad to hear! Yup, no fish is worth losing your life over. Breaks my heart to hear
Saw this happening live on Surfline. Couldn’t believe my eyes! Was poised ready to call emergency services. Never seen a boat head straight for the peak and avoid the deeper water there 😮
Crazy stuff. There was another one maybe 2 or 3 months ago, very similar to this one.
That first "FKIN BOOM" had me cracking up 🤣😂🤣
Dan, I was one of 5 sea kayakers coming in over the bar on a coastal trip up nz. We were almost wiped out by weekend fizz boaters. It is under control of a harbour master, but seems not to be monitored. If you are out and need to get in there is no option. Normally outgoing trafic gives way to incoming. Trouble is, these dicks don't even know there is a marritime code. Well done for bringing attention to this issue.
O dam, glad you made it alright! Yea, very different if you’re stuck out there. I have been once and we had to go and beach the boat at Langs because we timed the tide wrong and the low was way to gnarly to get back through. There’s always another option, these guys should’ve slept in 😆
the side you circled as the boat went out looked way bigger than were you expect the boat to go out only a few meters from the rocks.
@@garys4204 the camera angle is somewhat deceptive, I should have pointed that out better, I will in the next one.
So, where that GIANT wave is breaking is not in the channel, it's beyond the channel, "out at sea" let's say. If you watch that wave after it breaks, it enters the channel and reforms into unbroken swell. THATS the channel. If you watch the same wave over near the surfers line up, you'll see it stays as white wash, re breaking several times.
So the trick is to sit in the channel, almost all the way out until there is a lull. Then you can just cruise on through.
Hectic! Scary view from the line up. On a brighter note, Waves were looking good!
Waves were cranking, hope you guys are getting something down there too!
It would be interesting to see the camera angle relative to the channel . I get the impression that looking straight out from the channel , the view would be surfers right across the horizon . Surfers move up and down the beach , depending on the break . Boats also need to go left or right depending on the break ! In saying that I would’ve left the boat at home and watched the surfers on that day . Have fun out there .
Yeah, surfers in the channel too. Not a good day for boaties, big surf and surfers everywhere. Two wrongs don't make a right, sorry , a 'left'.
If he had waited in the channel and not been so impatient, he would've made it through quite easily. A few others went out before him, they used patience, their skill in reading the conditions and the proper channel. No issues. I've seen some footage from one of the surfers out there, scary shit!
JasonJohnson-mo5bu,
So, give up because there is a surfer out there, just go home for the day ?
And what about the next day, another surfer.
So he waits and another surfer replaces the 1st and he's expected to wait, or go home till tomorrow.
And on and on ad nauseum/ infinitum.
Or possibly head out at dusk, spend the night on the boat and then gets shamed / yelled at when he attempts to reenter in the early morning ?
Naw mate. As stated, some surfers act like bicycle riders on the road " It's All about me...i have rights !"
I view it more like driving in 2nd / 3rd / and 4th world countries: Bigger trucks have the right of way. There's no problem till you have a Brit or Yank driving there thinking they're "equal" to a big truck. Then they cry... ☆
@@fjb4932 several boats crossed that morning, non-issue. They used the channel, timed the sets, maintained control and speed. No surfer stopped them, no surfer wants to stop them.
Weather there were surfers out there or not, this particular boat blew every part of their crossing, without question. Their mistakes actually had nothing to do with any surfer.
@@fjb4932if giving up means turning around and going back to the ramp because the conditions are worse than expected then yea give up . I fish out of the kaipara and have crossed the bar many times . I have also turned around and stayed inside the harbour a few times when the bar was up . I stand by the comments I made regarding the camera angle etc . From experience, it is natural for a boatie to stay off a rocky outcrop due to reefs extending out . Obviously different story here so that’s where local knowledge comes in .
I hope the Coastguard had a nice 'chat' afterwards!
I agree, Needs more than a “chat” though
Mangawhai bar breaking right across .
Just no to trying it in a boat.
Counting on uniform Sets does not work. i have spent enough time crossing bars and rock fishing to know you can get a rouge monster any time.
I don’t think these guys even knew what a set is 😆 they couldn’t have had worse timing if they tried!
Whakatane heads has the same conflict between the boating and surfing communities. Way back in the 1980s the boaties stopped complaining so much about the surfers when a couple of boats came to grief crossing the bar and the occupants were saved by surfers.
🖤 Whakatāne!
There’s no surf vs boat beef here. Just a bunch of people in my comments section trying to make it that.
Boats stick to the channel, surfers on the peak, everyone’s generally, happy as Larry! Out there on the bar surfing, you pretty much know every boat and captain driving past anyway
@@smallkinedings The conflict at Whakatāne exists because the boat channel is where you paddle out.
One year back in the 80s the recreational fishing fleet out on the annual tuna competition got caught at sea with a huge ground swell and had all sorts of trouble getting back in. Of course we surfers were ecstatic, I recall it as possibly the best spring, summer and autumn surfing the whole time I lived there.
These days the swell forecasting is so much better and the boaties not so inclined to get caught out.
Bob Wo & co - dead set legends (anyway, a groyne is only a matter of time at WHK tick tick (what you think that Marina is gonna live with an erratic bar?)
Bro really could seriously injure or even kill someone with cowboy moves in the line up like that, what a kook
A scary half hour for everyone out there, probably the guys on the boat too!
Dan that’s insane. Thanks for sharing
Too good not to 😹
When you are driving a large gas powered vehicle, car, boat or whatever.... its your responsibility to drive that thing safely, away from people, waking, swimmin or paddling. We have similar problems with party boats and jet skis on the Willamette River in Oregon.
100%. The rule here is 5 knots within 200 meters of any land or swimmer. This guys timing was so poor though he had no choice but to throttle it to clear those waves!
That was a good insight to the Mangawhai Bar. Freaky place to be boating with that swell.
I struggle on a knee high day 😂 Rather be IN the water than on it!
All that is really demonstrated is the importance of knowing the entrance to an estuary or habour before attempting it.
Arguably, the boater was always more at risk than any surfers.
Thanks for the video bro. I live in Ruawai and that river can kick off real quick at out going tides.
My pleasure! Ruawai is a beautiful part of the island!
Saw something similar there 10 yrs ago at the same bar .. case of hang on the wheel and back .. the surf life savers were getting ready for a rescue .. gun-ho .. just be safe on the day and buy some fish & chips at the local shop ..
I noticed how there was a long lull after he just got out. What a dick weed. Been a long time since I surfed that bar & the main beach. Epic memories. I'm 64 now.
A few went out this morning and made it. This guy just somehow had the worlds worst timing of sets 😆
It’s still all here waiting for ya!
Insanity,,, ridiculous risk taking and then there's the prospect of getting back again
Crazy to cross in those conditions 😮 there is an ongoing issue with surfers in the channel tho. I often cross in a small swell and lots of surfers paddling out or across from the beach break or vis versa. So it is something surfer’s need to be more aware of usually too.
The channel is the only way to access the bar. As long as you're doing your 5 knots within 200 meters of land and swimmers both boats and surfers can easily navigate this bit of water... Shy of a 6 ft swell though, maybe 😂
If you see a tired looking fulla with his thumb out next time, gimme a lift and I'll buy you a beer! 🤙
Did it take them long to clean all the surf wax off their windscreen?
😂 😂 😂
Holy crap bro! So lucky they didn’t kill some surfers 😅
Mangawhai bar is no fricken joke. !
It’ll get ya!
The water is there for everybody to enjoy, respect isn’t a new thing
Hashtag know your limits 🤙
At my local right fishermen cast and put long lines right through the section. I've caught a hook on my leash a couple of times over the years. Not life threatening but lucky not to have been hooked myself.
@@o4pureh2o years ago I was surfing a loooong beach near here. There was a pack of us out on a peak and large family arrived with their torpedo long line. They spent some time setting up on the beach right in front of us, we were all waving and yelling at them from the water telling them to move down the beach. They ignored us and sent their torpedo and line of hooks straight through us. One of the uncles was so pissed he paddled into the beach, cursed this family out for a bit and eventually disappeared to his car for a bit and then paddled back out to us. He found their line beneath us, pulled out a pocket knife he'd grabbed from his car and cut their line 😂 torpedo gone and line slack, we all paddled down the beach a ways to find a new peak
@@smallkinedingsGood work
They watched the film "Far North " and bought a boat . 🙃
It's that easy 😂
There is always somewhere bugger, somewhere worse, you can't just bring something up because it's better than somewhere else. I'm talking about the rapid overwhelming change. I've been to London, lived near there, so what, how does that relate in anyway to the massive and rapid changes here? When a quiet peaceful area becomes overwhelmed and completely changed by development and crowds, large corporate businesses the essence of what once was is gone. That's it, that's my point. I've been living here over 10 years and visiting over 20 years, my observations aren't about me being more involved.
@@Kanuka-Forest I'm not having a go at you, I feel the same way quite often but, we only have 3 choices. We can be bitter and angry about it, we can move somewhere else or we can look at all of the positives. The choice is totally ours to make, I'm just reminding you (as other have reminded me) that the third choice exists and is a pretty good one!
Bloody surfers… cyclists of the sea 😂
😂 But have you seen those ''water bikes'' yet?!
Bloody useless boat drivers, what a menace.
Not quite. Cyclist don’t pay to use the roads but motorists do. Neither boaties or surfers pay to use the water so neither has any more claim.
@@mitseraffej5812 But boat owners pay rego and insurance otherwise they cannot access the water.
Surfers and cyclists pay neither.
saw exactly this the day before on saturday, putting everyone in serious danger
Scary shit!
Very ballsy these people 😮
We got a place like this where boats shoot out in the lineup and it’s always a bit nerve racking when you start hearing a boat wailing on its horn on the way in. They’re usually seasoned fishermen though and are careful. It’s the beginners in the water that are worrisome when they dont realize a boats coming in and get away by the skin of their teeth!
Also very cool to hear you go spearfishing in that area too!
There was definitely nothing skilled about the timing of that set...nothing seasoned. We have Been surf beach launching for 15plus years off the west coast in all types of surf, bars, beaches etc. These guys are Incredibly lucky. Absolutely nil timing...Nothing skilled about that crossing, just reckless and inexperienced...
Most folks crossing that bar get through with no issues, there were even a few this very day who timed the sets, used the channel and no dramas. It’s always that 2% who just “monkey see, monkey do” 😆
Vert off the lip (12 o'clockers) 8.3 pts🤙👌
Is there any footage of him coming back in??? That would be interesting to see.
Not that I ever saw. It probably would've been a higher tide by then though so a lot flatter coming back... hopefully for him!
I've been there when a boats flipped on the bar, day after a cyclone swell, picked up and flipped coming back in, was hectic
Have seen a couple myself, never fun to watch!
good post
Chur Ross boss!
imo the boat could have gone a little more vertical on that
Did you submit this to the harbor master and/or local authorities?
Both harbour master and coast guard have seen it and I’ve been on the phone with both. Not with any interest in reporting the driver, just with the outlook of how we can make things better and clearer for all in the future!
I’ll do a follow up to this video but I’m just waiting on a statement from the coast guard before I do that one 🤙
He needs to be reported and held to account @@smallkinedingsotherwise he'll be out doing it again.
Not a great day for going over the bar but there were a lot of Muppets on boards right out in front of where the boats go out.
Wow! "kookery" is a good term!
Don't you guys down South call that guy a Wanker ?
Anyway God Blesses you with some beautiful waves.
Haha, something along those lines!
It was a good day for sure!
really He did well! Definitely a Local!!
😂 😂 😂
I notice in the end he did go out the right channel, thou he was lucky not to get flipped.
Kinda made it! He was almost in it after his first 180 on the way back ironically 😆
I deal with this shit on the regular surfing my local! Gotta remember too he’s obviously ganna be able to see a lot clearer than we can out there, but yea probably coulda chilled a bit more and picked a better lul to cross 🤙
I've seen some photos from out there, terrifyingly close to surfers. Was sunrise too so they had major sun strike heading out. Impressive air though, I'll give um that!
Where can you find the photos?
@@smallkinedings where can we see the photos
@@Surfersboard some on my instagram story
Nah your wrong.....i am a surfer, but if that is an inlet pass.....that is boat priority and surfers are the problem.....i see the same situations on alex's channel....he films the inlet at Hoosegor/cape breton in france...same inlet that killed EU head of quicksilver on his boat......now u see longboarders surfing in inlet because of the dangerous shoaling having interactions with boats.....lots of places to surf...only 1 inlet.....so if a boat is trying to pass....surfers need to clear out of the way
@@gg9960 you're half right. Boats certainly have the right of way and priority in the channel. It is illegal for any vessel or person to stop and block a boating channel. They can navigate and cross it, but they cannot stop and block it. Be that a fishing kayak, spear fisherman, sitting on a surfboard or anchored up in a boat.
The issue here is that the boat was never in the channel. He directly avoided the boating channel and instead made his way, at speed, through a group of people. That, is of course illegal at worst and incredibly irresponsible at best.
I'll have a loot at the Hoosegor, ot should be said though, NZ bylaws are going to be very different from NZs. What's Alexes channel name?
@@smallkinedings alex videos cape breton
@@gg9960 chur, I'll have a look!
As a boatie and former surfer, I can see why the boatie was going through the surfers. From the footage it looked less gnarly where the surfers were waiting in the line up, even though it was shallower through there.
But FFS if your "best" option is going through a bunch of surfers then turn around and fuck off home. No fish is worth risking any human life. Even if the surfers were blocking the deeper channel I wouldn't go through them. Imagine how entitled you must be to think it's OK to risk mowing someone down with a keel and propeller.
The craziest thing is (I’ll share the footage in a follow up video), leading up to his failed attempt and for almost 40 minutes after he made it, the channel was as flat as a lake. He chose one of the biggest sets of the day to make his crossing. If he’d gone earlier instead of just sitting around waiting, or waited an extra 3 minutes (no exaggeration) he would have cruised through easy as.
That’s my fault though for not sharing the full clip of the crossing. I will do so in the near future 🤙
Surfers are in the way in the line up and paddling across the channel.
@@micdlewis incorrect, not only according to me but also our coast guard and our local professional boat operators.
The line up of surfers is WAY out of the boating channel. Surfers in the water or not, this guys timing and path of crossing was terrible.
There are two surfers in the channel, a channel that would fit 10 to 20 boats wide. That said, it doesnt much matter because he was never in the channel. This really isn't a case of surfers vs boat operators as most surfers are also boat operators and many boat operators are also surfers. This is a case on 1 individual that morning blowing his crossing, many other boats that same morning crossed easily and successfully with no issues at all.
@@smallkinedings No, no, no…….actually he’s right about the surfers in the channel. Look at the second attempt, 2 boarders paddling in the channel. The boatie is a wanker, probably from Auckland with his roof tent that he never uses(seems to be the latest craze in Auckland) along with a boat he only uses once a year.
But there are actually two surfers paddling in the channel. @ 3.45 and 4.23 check them out to the left of that idiot.
@@TheEnzedone 100% 2 surfers in the channel. 2 options of what they’re up to. Heading back out to the line up or going back in to the beach. The channel rips water through there so you definitely can’t just sit in it, it will drag you straight back to the peak and that channel is wide enough for 30 boats to travel through so they really shouldn’t have been an issue for the boater.
Your roof top tent comment cracked me up! 😆
Maybe the surfers with their ultimate wisdom should’ve got out of the way when they saw the fucking boat coming
Orrrrr… maybe the boat, which travels at higher speed and more easily against the never ending strong current should have… wait for it… stayed in the boating channel…
Let’s pretend for a minute that there were no surfers out there at all, the boat still blew it beyond belief. Poor timing, poor read of conditions, lack of experience and putting themself and their crew at risk. The plus side to the surfers being out there is that if these guys didn’t get SO LUCKY, at least there were people there to rescue them. It wouldn’t have been the first time surfers out there came to the rescue of inexperienced boaties, it certainly wouldn’t have been the last. Nice try though 🤙
What do you think...they can just teleport?
Surfers are where the surf us, that isn't where boats should be.
Boats don't have a God given right to the ocean 🤡
A surfer sitting on their board is perfectly entitled to do exactly that.
I'm not a surfer, I'm a skipper with thousands of sea hours.
You should stick to land based activities.
Surfer and a fisho, no idea about the location but you woild sitely stick to the deeper water not just straight line it foe the lineup
100%
Deep water there for a reason. Even watching the water in the channel as he hops waves, it’s just very clearly the place a boat wants to be
When the surfers are out stay home
Or paddle out with the rods and bait strapped to ya back!
Kook of the year!
As a surfer and a boater his boat handing skills are pretty good and he read the swell very well.!
In the next video I'll show the other crossings made that morning with absolute ease and precision and the 40 minutes of flat water through the channel that occured less than 3 minutes after these guys made their crossing. They read the conditions terribly, but that's my fault for not showing the entire piece of footage 🤙
The only time I've seen boats do that is going out in swell here on Norfolk Island or surf rescue, coast guards. Not a weekend boater going out from a safe harbour through a safe marked channel that is deep water.
Why would you do this? It is unsafe in so many ways.
Boater tries to kill surfers? Bit of a clickbait there 🙄
Aww diddums 😆
The boat was in the right
@@kingfree2357 no.
Wow. Terrifying 😮
Alota Muppet boaties out there, the closer to Auckland, the more there are.😎
😂😂😂
No comment 😂
Unreal
That's effed up.
Eh mate what do you have an empty bookcase for?
Always good to have a spare, you never know when you might buy something!
This boat captain was not a surfer.
He wasn't a captain either 😂
Dunno who’s more cooked, the boatie or the guy who made the video!
I'm as underdone as a person could possibly be
It’s got nothing to do with surfers previous comment and everything to do with understanding the ocean more specifically that channel and asking some local boaties what’s the best way to get out here can you give me local advice same as a visiting surfer would do to the other local surfers out there
That's the ticket! If I had a dollar for everytime some random surfer has asked me in the parking lot ''what's the best way out there?''... Well', I'd have about 6 dollars but still! Never hurts to ask!
nob end
Where about is this mate?
Land of the long white cloud and endless road cones... New Zealand 🤙
this is how boaties drown… hope t Coastguard have a look/ b a bit much to expect they had life jackets on eh!
I wonder 🤔
he made it... did you..
@@cheymorley8243 haven't won kook of the day yet, one day 😉
That was hard to watch 😮all the gear no idea
I had to desensitise myself to it before filming! Have spoken to a few people who witnessed it today at work and the fear for everyone was real. A few life guards out there surfing who were prepping for a rescue when the boat flipped!
Absolute kookery😂
All good, I don't really care, I actually see it as another boom and boost scenario in the making, just like so many. Take a nice area to live, put massive infrastructure into it, expensive housing, high cost of living, ever increasing housing rates and not the economy or enough people with the money to support it. Retired people eventually go, the young struggle to keep up. It's a beautiful part of the world, just never thought out well by councils and planners.
@@Kanuka-Forest bang on! I actually think the future of this whole area will end up in the blank canvas of forestry/tearai. Mangawhais planning has been so poor, we are quickly running out land! Land barons and developers would cram their jeans with all the land between te Arai and parkari! Time will tell, will be a crazy thing!
This driver has only luck and a good boat on his side. To take a big wave you need to approach at an angle, as you ride up the wave you turn into it. Plan A is, avoid taking big waves unnecessarily, and don't drive straight over the top of a breaking wave. Slapping into a wave like that can easily kill your motor. If you don't get it started quickly, guess what's coming? Another breaking wave.
He wouldn't of been the first to kill his motor half way out and then get rolled back in. I saw it happen to an old fulla last year. Thankfully he was alright, boat, not so much
Forward it to your Harbor master. The guy is dangerous!
I heard today that the process is possibly underway
😮
Grew up surfing near a boat ramp with Alot of traffic. Any time a boat was coming in or landing someone would yell boat and everyone would clear the area...... Few times numbskulls didn't boats got damaged...... It was a small channel barely 20ft wide that waves would break directly into
Haha, reminds me of when I was a kid and we'd play cricket on the road. Car would come, we'd all yell ''caaaaaaar'', clear the wickets, let it pass and then back to it 😂
@@smallkinedings exactly!!! Pretty easy concept to follow... 🤣. Always a few that ruin it.
Thats a small boat for big waves ... maybe 9 meter cabin boat twin engines self draining cock pit plus experienced skipper who sticks to the channel even then still skecthy 😂😂😂
They made it through the waves though, if they flipped it would have been much more interesting. Just another day on the water really, selfish surfers dropping in on each other and a boat going out fishing.
Haha, sums it up!
bloody kookery yep..if i have to fly ever again im goin to oz🤟
😂
Mean waves
Firing 🤙
But if he had flipped it, the surfies would have been there to save his ass.
Certainly wouldn't be the first time!
That boater is one big lunatic... no clue ..
Don't play with your life there's to much to lose stay safe
I surf and boat. I run a 4-m rib with a 30 horse on the back a boat designs specifically to take on that kind of surf, and even I like to throw caution to the wind, but would not bother in a day like that, specially if there are a bunch of people's lives in the balance, including the people on my boat. This video is very poor decision making behalf of the captain. What about when the boat flips, passenger drowns and washes through the lineup and hits a surfer??? The fish will always be there but how are you going to feel when your boat has KO'd a surfer?? #yardsale the problem with the world is that people don't think about each other. I almost got run over by a 7 meter fishing boat giving it 60 going out of the heads who didn't see me at all. #oceanbogans?
Is that you mcquarrie
Wreckles as poor crew I would be like Fahk sakes mate that's it ... Your of the wheel 😂lol
Right?! Bro, I would’ve bailed over the side after the first attempt and swam back to shore if I was a passenger!
@@smallkinedings I nearly bailed a few years bk on Westport bar lol little inshore trawller the crew started getting ready to jump luckly we straitened up coming back in just about turned and flipped ... I already planed well before the bar seen the rocks and kept to my plan I claimed the roof for higher and further jump lol
Insanity!! Great vid though
to infinity ,,,,, did me ,, lol
Haha, thanks for noticing!! Takes time to add little bits like that 😂
What a muppet
Hate to tell you this but by making this video and making everyone aware there will most likely be some law implemented to protect people from themselves like closing the channel to surfers. I’ve seen this same thing happen in places in CA and so they just close the channel to surfers. Santa Cruz! Perfect example. But hey. You’re getting views so. . ,
This ain't the states. This is NZ. Buckleys chance of that happening, and even if they tried, theres literally nobody here to police it...
Giddyup 😂
🐎 🏍️ 🛥️
It's a shipping channel stay TF out of it you got 10km of surf beach but you gotta play there have had many encounters with surfers there put scratches on the prop
@@TonyYorke-it1xf another one. You're wrong. Not just according to me, according to our local professional boat operators, our coast guard, our life club.
1. Not a shipping channel, it's a boating channel.
2. He was never in the boating channel.
3. Regardless of weather or not there were surfers in the water, this was a terrible crossing. That had nothing to do with any surfers.
3. Whenever a compete amateur like this guy (and based on your comment, I'm assuming you too) gets into trouble on this bar, it is ALWAYS the surfers that come to the rescue. Our local surfers have saved many lives out there, many of those surfers are also our local life guards.
This is not a "surfer vs boatie" issue, this is a rubbish ocean goer vs other ocean goers minding their own business.
I would suggest you go and look up some of coastguards upcoming courses on bar crossings, they have many popping up around the country and it sounds like you would really benefit from it.
Wow. The level of ignorance, recklessness, and lack of common sense on display is shocking. I don't know much about boaties but don't they consult charts before they set out?
Nice memories of that wave :) That's pumping.
Just a quick look at the Webcam that we just watched would've helped um 😂
Was pumping today for sure!
More beers then IQ
As any captain with a straight head would know the powerboat has to watch for swimmers basically surfers are swimmers if your not goin out in a marked boat channel of marked path for boats then your a idiot now i am not from there also at the same time if all the way to the rocks is the boat path the surfer's shouldn't be all the way across leaving no access for boats and you definitely cannot see through a wave so its definitely unsafe both sides need to pay attention or someone will get hurt😊
The camera is quite deceptive when it comes to the width of the channels exit. I'll point it out in the next video but the channel was certainly never blocked. You're right though, it's illegal and ill advised to block a boating channel. You can navigate it, but you can't sit in it! Definitely gotta keep your eyes peeled out there no matter who you are. Kayak, surfers, spearo, boat, whoever!
Good reason for boating licensing. Just saying.
Hard to argue with that!
Licensing doesn't stop idiots on the road
whahahah muppet. Boaties should know: No waves = deep water
Exactimando!
WTF! A good day for surfing not for boating. Unfortunately mangawhai is too full of obnoxious Aucklanders and outsiders now, we used to have a bit of a more peaceful haven up here with people who actually knew and respected the area more. That's long gone. I get pissed off while having chill time and swims at picnic bay and jet skis and boats go fanging past. You can't even get a park for your vehicle and trailer anymore, mangawhai is Auckland now with all of the muppets that come with it 🤨
I feel your pain but, I always find a weekend in Auckland or Whangārei, anywhere bigger than here is pretty eye opening. We are still small kine, our “crowds” are nothing compared to 90% of the world. Be it parking, surfers, lines for coffee… we are so spoilt living here that a 5 minute wait to order coffee is pain in the ass. That’s how lucky we are. Our 40 parking spots at the beach fill quickly in the summer for sure, go check out Maunganuis 400 parks and see how quickly they fill. Which beach is more crowded? Sample a surf at Waikiki, try some Auckland traffic, go sit on hot water beach, just fly over LA or Melbourne and look down, try a swim at Bondi.
We are so lucky and so spoilt living here, we bitch and moan about every little mild thing (I do it to) without stopping to think, all of these annoying “blow ins”… they’d kill to live where we do.
I love this place. I’ve lived and traveled a lot of places around the world, from Aussie to Europe, North America, Asia and Scandinavia. I stopped here after 10ish years of travel.
MAZ, SLS, trackies, pioneer village, the big dig, lions club and SO many other amazing people and organisations make this place great. I’ve never found a community anywhere else in the world like Mangawhai and I say to people often, if you’ve stopped seeing the magic in magical Mangawhai, you need to get more involved in this amazing place and with these people. I’ve needed that reminder myself a couple of times too.
🤙 🤙 chin up, the road cones are nearly gone 🤞 😁
insane person
You guys don't own the ocean maybe you should surf some other beach
Man, let's think about what you're saying for second. Like really break it down...
So, let's pretend for a minute that there were NO surfers out there. The boat driver STILL blew it! He still did EVERYTHING wrong. Left the channel, didn't read the conditions, timed his crossing poorly, put his and his crews life at risk. The only difference now is that when they roll, capsize and begin drowning, guess what, there's no one there to save them without the surfers! This wouldn't have been the first time surfers have had to rescue inexperienced boaties on the bar.
What should have happened is, the boat should've waited for a lull, used the correct boating channel and it would have crossed successfully (like every other boat that crossed that same morning) and without almost killing themselves or others... or they should've waited for a higher tide and for the waves to stop breaking all together.
The only reason the surf cams on this spot exist is because of... surfers. Guess who else uses the cams to check conditions... boaties. Guess who's manning the water out there when lifeguards aren't on duty... surfers. Guess who's out there surfing... off duty lifeguards.
This bar is safer because of the surfers out there and the surfers have ALWAYS been the first to rescue on this spot and save lives. The amount of drownings our local surfers have prevented is not a small number.
Stop writing silly thing on the internet, its unbecoming.
@@smallkinedings you're so full of shit that I can smell it in Oregon. I'm a commercial fisherman and the channel was made to enter and leave the harbor not for us to surf.I can't remember any time a surfer saved a boater so go find some where else to surf
Why attempt going out with the bar up like that. His trailer would have been the only one at the ramp. Also you have to be close to head rock. I've spent over 20 years boating out from there and its fine if you use some common sense. Luckily, no one got hit by this clown.
A few went out that morning with no issue. They waited in the channel for a lull, made it through no issue. Like you say, it's fine if you use your common sense. This fulla was lacking though!
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Blocking a river bar crossing should be illegal for surfers. Obstructing vessels restricted in manoeuvring.
No one was blocking the boating channel. But, it wouldn't mattered even if they were because.... wait for it... he was never in it.
No one was blocking the river bar. The boat was out of the boat channel and it is illegal to approach swimmers closer than 200m and with a speed over 5kph. Now what did your eyes see in the video?
Surfers are like cyclists. They think the roads and ocean belong to them.
@@Toffie10 I've never met a surfer who think the ocean or road belongs to them. Never met a cyclist who thought the roads and ocean belong to them either 🤔. I think that you don't actually know what you're talking about... move along fulla, the adults are speaking, back to your soaps
@@smallkinedings No my friend, if you take a close look at this footage, and even follow the "channel where the boat is suppose to follow. What do you see behind the waves. Surfers, surfers and more surfers. Where must the boat go without endangering any sufers, because they are everywhere.
@@Toffie10 mate, I've looked at the footage a LOT closer than you. You've seen a snippet of it, what I showed you.
1. There are 2 surfers "in" the channel during his second crossing
2. You could line up 20 boats side to side through that channel
3. The surfers aren't "in" the channel, they are beyond the channel (hard to tell with the cameras angle, I'll give you that). Waves don't break "in" the channel, that's the entire point of it.
4. The reason the surfers are there is because what we are seeing is the literal set of the day.
5. Literally 2 minutes after this boat made it out, the water was FLAT for 37 minutes, not a wave in sight. No exaggeration. That's how badly he read the conditions.
6. MANY other boats crossed that morning, easily and without issue. The surfers being out has nothing to do with this being a poorly executed crossing. There could be not another soul in the water, this guy still blew it beyond belief. This was a terrible crossing and had nothing to do with anyone else but him.
7. Our coast guard, surf life savers, Harbour master, local professional boat operators (fishing charters and water taxis) all agree with what I have just written. A couple were even on national TV saying the same about this very footage last week.
To answer your question "where's he supposed to go", it depends who you ask. If you ask me, he is supposed to wait in the channel until there is a suitable lull (which every other boat that morning did) and there was, he was just too impatiant. If you ask our local water taxi and fishing charter (which the TV did last week) he needed to turn around and go home until a higher tide. If you ask coastguard, he needs to do one of their bar crossing courses before he attempts this again.
Well if this is the only possibility for boats to go out surfers should appreciate this and give others a space as well.
Incorrect.
The boat left the boating channel, they left it because it was a literal wall of water. This is a sure fire indicator to:
A. Wait for a higher tide
B. Don’t cross the bar on a 5 to 6ft swell.
Thanks for playing though 🤙
boaties should learn to read a swell pattern!
@@smallkinedings C. Drive to Marsden, Omaha, or Rangiora Rd instead of risking it all for a couple fish.
Did you even listen to the explanation in regards to where the channel is?
Plus, the conditions aren’t always right for any ocean activity, that was definitely not a day to cross that bar, especially when the moron obviously had zero boating experience…. Like you. 😉
Experienced boatie here - quite simply shouldn't be going out if the bar crossing is like that.
Get a haircut and a job.
@@Oscarcat2212 you realise this youtube channel literally follows my work/business I own right?! You realise this youtube channel pays me and is a part of my business/job?
Thanks for the view and the comment, you've literally put money in my pocket with your foolishness. Perhaps you should've just gone to work instead of embarrassing yourself?