Sounds like an inefficiency in the airlines' booking system. Let me get this right; airlines can overbook the flight, kick you off and fight you tooth and nail for any compensation, but taking advantage of their red tape and overhead in flight booking will get you detained and interrogated? LOL okay.
@@Chad_Max Which airline do you work for dude? Because you certainly sound like one of their paid spokes holes! The airlines spend the same amount on the plane, crew and fuel for a flight from NYC to Omaha as they do a flight from NYC to LA. Yes, there are fewer people going to Omaha from NYC than are going to LA from NYC, but there are also fewer flights from NYC to Omaha than there are between NYC and LA. The airlines pays the same either way, they simply have fewer flights operating to Omaha from NYC. I simply do not understand your argument. You mean it costs less for an airline to stop in Omaha on the way to LA than it does for them to simply fly to Omaha from NYC? RIDICULOUS!
I think that skiplagging is great. I don’t practice it, but it seems that’s it results in the connected flights having more open seating (from the passengers who ditched the next leg), resulting in a more spacious seating experience for those who will be boarding. Sounds like a “win” to me!!
I don’t see the issue. He paid for his ticket, and it’s his business to get off where he wants to. 🤷🏽♂️ The airlines should be lowering their prices to accommodate.
How is this not extortion on the part of the airlines? I *have* to go on a trip that I don't want, or you'll take my money? I already paid to get this far, I should be able to part ways at any point without incurring some fee or penalty.
@@Chad_Max But airlines aren't committing fraud overselling most flights because "on average, a few people don't show up"? oh, right, it's legalized fraud.
@@Chad_Max That's not true, the feds say it's not illegal. If it were truly fraud, they'd say it's illegal. It's a matter of airline policies whether they want to allow it or not.
@@Chad_Max No, the airlines are charging exorbitant fees for some routes. The airlines already formed their fraudulent intent when they charge you three times as much as it costs them to fly you to your destination! Then of course they tack on bag fees, seat selection fees, airport fees, etc. all the while eliminating leg space and shoving as many people into the cabin as is possible without them literally lying on top of one another. What airline do you work for? You certainly have the airline's talking points down pat!
If airlines are allowed to overbook, passengers should be allowed to skiplag. And they have no problem when you "skiplag" because they've canceled or delayed flights. For example - I was in Maryland and had to get home to Vegas for work. The flight was from Baltimore to Newark, Newark to Vegas. Well, for some reason (it wasn't weather I remember) all flights out of Baltimore were grounded on the day I was to fly home . The airline was like "nothing we can do! You're trapped indefinitely." Well, I said "what if I just drive to Newark and skip the leg from Baltimore?" They were like "sure, you can do that." It was a huge pain - I had to pay to rent a car (they refused to help) and drive from Baltimore to Newark to get home.
The reality is that the airlines provide the fares based on their estimated costs. If you purchase the ABC fare and get off at point B, you are actually saving the airline on fuel with the lighter payload (one person less). The crew has to be there anyway. And there can usually be a person or two on standby waiting at the airport to board and take that empty seat. It's BS on part of the airlines to cry foul for something they created. Hiding behind a contract is merely an excuse to charge you money for nothing but greed.
The real problem I see is that a ticket from Florida to JFK (nyc) with a layover in Charlotte, is cheaper then a direct flight to Charlotte (nc) Shame on the airline for overreacting and putting a juvenile through this process of horseshit. Doing it to anyone is an issue but especially a minor.
Driving is true American freedom. Why pay some liberal corporation money you can spend elsewhere to be up in your personal business. Stand in line. What’s this in your bag. Wait here go there. No thanks I’ll make my decisions.
What I didn't hear brought up is, and using this case as an example, with the guy booking a seat on the CLT-JFK segment, that's one less seat available to buy for someone who legimately is traveling from CLT-JFK. With supply and demand, that trickles down to higher fares for every other honest passenger to pay. Please be honest and don't skip lag.
Do you honestly believe that American is charging fair pricing for its routes? Like someone else already said, "You don't cheat airlines, they cheat you!" If airlines charged fair prices for their routes, then people would not have to resort to trickery to get the fare they ought to have paid in the first place! This guy paid a fare for the entire route. Therefore he is cheating no one! It's American Airlines that is the swindler here!
Those parents knew, horrible people. It is equivalent to stealing! Not just stealing from the airline but it takes aways fares, seats and significant availability from other passengers and ties up flight crew where it may not be necessary not to mention the delay for that next connecting flight while they call for the missing passenger over and over before take off, so people should be upset when greedy people do this! You don’t see the issue with this but you do see a huge problem with the airline when your flight is delayed or the flight shows the seat you want for your family member next to you sold out but you get on the flight and its empty so you blame the the airline staff again.. there are so many issues this causes that people will never see. I am a travel agent and its a long list of headaches, it would disgust you too.
Skip lagging is stupid. Who actually takes a flight 4+ hours away and brings only a carry on? Naw I’d rather pay my dues and be comfortable with my luggage on the plane
Sounds like an inefficiency in the airlines' booking system. Let me get this right; airlines can overbook the flight, kick you off and fight you tooth and nail for any compensation, but taking advantage of their red tape and overhead in flight booking will get you detained and interrogated? LOL okay.
Get this straight: you don't cheat the airlines, they cheat you.
How so? Running an airline is expensive. You pay for a service.
@@brentj.peterson6070 it's not that expensive. Corporate greed is all devouring
This trick is older than a lot of people reading this. Newsflash: you create a game, expect someone to game the system.
Ha! Smart people. Charging more for flying fewer miles to less cities is ridiculous. They shouldn’t be surprised people are doing it.
@@Chad_Max Which airline do you work for dude? Because you certainly sound like one of their paid spokes holes! The airlines spend the same amount on the plane, crew and fuel for a flight from NYC to Omaha as they do a flight from NYC to LA. Yes, there are fewer people going to Omaha from NYC than are going to LA from NYC, but there are also fewer flights from NYC to Omaha than there are between NYC and LA. The airlines pays the same either way, they simply have fewer flights operating to Omaha from NYC. I simply do not understand your argument. You mean it costs less for an airline to stop in Omaha on the way to LA than it does for them to simply fly to Omaha from NYC? RIDICULOUS!
PSA- the airline can NOT force you to pay anything.
Lol just use another airline, problem solved
I think that skiplagging is great. I don’t practice it, but it seems that’s it results in the connected flights having more open seating (from the passengers who ditched the next leg), resulting in a more spacious seating experience for those who will be boarding.
Sounds like a “win” to me!!
I don’t see the issue. He paid for his ticket, and it’s his business to get off where he wants to. 🤷🏽♂️ The airlines should be lowering their prices to accommodate.
Exactly - they claim "lost revenue" but didn't he pay for the ticket already? It's not like he gets a refund for the additional leg!
How is this not extortion on the part of the airlines? I *have* to go on a trip that I don't want, or you'll take my money? I already paid to get this far, I should be able to part ways at any point without incurring some fee or penalty.
@@Chad_Max But airlines aren't committing fraud overselling most flights because "on average, a few people don't show up"?
oh, right, it's legalized fraud.
@@Chad_Max That's not true, the feds say it's not illegal. If it were truly fraud, they'd say it's illegal. It's a matter of airline policies whether they want to allow it or not.
@@Chad_Max No, the airlines are charging exorbitant fees for some routes. The airlines already formed their fraudulent intent when they charge you three times as much as it costs them to fly you to your destination! Then of course they tack on bag fees, seat selection fees, airport fees, etc. all the while eliminating leg space and shoving as many people into the cabin as is possible without them literally lying on top of one another. What airline do you work for? You certainly have the airline's talking points down pat!
@@Deelambs Exactly what I said. Legalized fraud. They're having their cake and eating it, too.
If airlines are allowed to overbook, passengers should be allowed to skiplag. And they have no problem when you "skiplag" because they've canceled or delayed flights. For example - I was in Maryland and had to get home to Vegas for work. The flight was from Baltimore to Newark, Newark to Vegas. Well, for some reason (it wasn't weather I remember) all flights out of Baltimore were grounded on the day I was to fly home . The airline was like "nothing we can do! You're trapped indefinitely." Well, I said "what if I just drive to Newark and skip the leg from Baltimore?" They were like "sure, you can do that." It was a huge pain - I had to pay to rent a car (they refused to help) and drive from Baltimore to Newark to get home.
This makes no sense. You free up a seat and it’s not acceptable??
Cause they don’t make more money of you! That’s why they are not happy about it!
Why does the airlines care?? They got your money!!
The reality is that the airlines provide the fares based on their estimated costs. If you purchase the ABC fare and get off at point B, you are actually saving the airline on fuel with the lighter payload (one person less). The crew has to be there anyway. And there can usually be a person or two on standby waiting at the airport to board and take that empty seat. It's BS on part of the airlines to cry foul for something they created. Hiding behind a contract is merely an excuse to charge you money for nothing but greed.
The real problem I see is that a ticket from Florida to JFK (nyc) with a layover in Charlotte, is cheaper then a direct flight to Charlotte (nc)
Shame on the airline for overreacting and putting a juvenile through this process of horseshit. Doing it to anyone is an issue but especially a minor.
if you are skip lagging, how do you save if you booked an original full flight and paid as such?..
Driving is true American freedom. Why pay some liberal corporation money you can spend elsewhere to be up in your personal business. Stand in line. What’s this in your bag. Wait here go there. No thanks I’ll make my decisions.
Overbook flights though??
How is going farther.. less money than just buying a ticket to the closer place??
What I didn't hear brought up is, and using this case as an example, with the guy booking a seat on the CLT-JFK segment, that's one less seat available to buy for someone who legimately is traveling from CLT-JFK. With supply and demand, that trickles down to higher fares for every other honest passenger to pay. Please be honest and don't skip lag.
Do you honestly believe that American is charging fair pricing for its routes? Like someone else already said, "You don't cheat airlines, they cheat you!" If airlines charged fair prices for their routes, then people would not have to resort to trickery to get the fare they ought to have paid in the first place! This guy paid a fare for the entire route. Therefore he is cheating no one! It's American Airlines that is the swindler here!
So, they'll rake you over the coals even though they were able to fill that seat anyway? Screw them.
Hate the game, not the players airlines...
Cry me a river. 🤦♂️
Those parents knew, horrible people. It is equivalent to stealing! Not just stealing from the airline but it takes aways fares, seats and significant availability from other passengers and ties up flight crew where it may not be necessary not to mention the delay for that next connecting flight while they call for the missing passenger over and over before take off, so people should be upset when greedy people do this!
You don’t see the issue with this but you do see a huge problem with the airline when your flight is delayed or the flight shows the seat you want for your family member next to you sold out but you get on the flight and its empty so you blame the the airline staff again.. there are so many issues this causes that people will never see. I am a travel agent and its a long list of headaches, it would disgust you too.
No they're not. Fuck these airlines. They're just pissed off they weren't able to extort you for more money.
Skip lagging is stupid. Who actually takes a flight 4+ hours away and brings only a carry on? Naw I’d rather pay my dues and be comfortable with my luggage on the plane