I’m planning to retire my 4 year old GX 1x11 and swap to an Eagle GX. Great video. Will Be keeping my old cranks and getting an aftermarket 32T chainring. Just couldn’t be bothered to replace my old GX crank arms and GXP BB as they’re still good.
Hi, id like to upgrade from a 2x10 sram gx to a 1x11 or 1x12. My hub is non xd compatible and don't want to change out my wheel. I'd like to keep about the same range of gears. What components do u suggest that are comparable or better than the standard sram gx line?
Thanks for the great video -I personally went with the 30 tooth front as I found I wasn't using 12th gear and really appreciated the lower granny for those long and steep climbs.
What a nice walkthrough video! Definitely saved me :) Just replaced my 2x10 speed group with a new Sram GX Eagle group. Followed your tips step by step and everything works so well. Thanks alot for contributing to the mountainbike community in such a stellar way. Much appreciated! Thanks :)
@@LoveMTB It is years between my bike upgrades and this last jump to the new geometry, 1x12, and dropper seat has been fantastic! I bought a Commencal Meta TR 29, and had the upgrades awaiting its its arrival. SRAM Twist Shifter, GX Derailleur, and GX Chain. (The Cassette/Hub upgrade will wait until I wear these out.) This Bike is a Climber and has taken me, in the last 2 weeks on Oregon Paths and Logging Roads that I could only dream of with my former (and still loved) Trek XC Hardtail. It is scary how far I keep going, right outside my door in the Oregon Coast Mountain Range. The only thing I continue to be unsure of is how to know if I have the B Gap set accurately. Commencal had already set the Gap for the stock NX Derailleur, but when I upgraded to the GX, I had to fumble through it alone.
Thanks for the post! Helped with my installment this evening and I was a little apprehensive about it being in the lower end of the EAgle system.... it is OUTSTANDING. You hit it right on the head, feels like Shimano shifting ..s m o o t h... impressed on how easy it was to put together as well.
I'm thinking of using this set for my trekking bike, i will carry a lot of weight and going up-hill can be a pain. Hopefully this set should lighten the issue ! Awesome video.
This is a great video it goes into depth how to put everything on and didn't leave anything technically important out. For people like me that prefer to do stuff like this myself its a great video.
Very effective video, thank you so much for sharing! I purchased X01 Eagle recently which was the first time to install a Sram groupset and this helped me a lot.
I bet that extended range was nice to have on the last climb at Enduro at the 1km mark. Excellent detailed video as always. Gave you a shout out during the race :)
Fantastic video. Very informative and outstanding camera work. My one worry with the eagle is that extra long cage. I'm already smashing my XT long cage more than I'd like to admit. 😔 You'll have to let me know how yours does through rock gardens.
I love SRAM gears loads, I love that instant immediate click you get as it changes gears rather than the shimano 'has it or hasn't it' feel where you often need to look to see if it has switched sprockets. I wonder if an electric version is very far away?....
Watching this video helped me understand a little more on the rear (duh lol) derailleur adjusting thanks for also that info......I have my 10x50 setup coming soooooo soon. Great video and clearly explained. Rod
Thanks, just the vid that provided the info I need. One thing you failed to mention is that you need an XD rear hub to make the 1x11-to-1x12 upgrade even possible, correct?
Great video ! Amazing job ! It was very usefull in my installation of this Rear Derailleur (With a Sunrace 12v in my case) . Great explanation, and great images. Greetings from Spain.
I just ordered one of these kits, i have an old shop-brand but fairly decent aluminium hardtail with a 3x9 drivet rain, i wonder if it will fit the rear hub at all. Maby i will need a wider hub, or just go at it with a file to make room. Looking forward to not having twist-style shifters with way too many gear combinations to choose from. I allways shift wrong, even tho i have used them for years. It's something about them that's counter intuitive for me.
Bought ten speed gx, it shifted poorly and then broke 2 weeks later, wasn't impressed. Ordered shimano Saint de railer and shit it's good, amazing shifting and no chain slap on my enduro rig, had to move down to a 32 tooth rear cog so have to sacrifice a little but I would say it is worth it, will be going xtr next year and hope that will be as good. I wanted to like sram but so many problems I just can't.
Thanks for your great video. I’m just installing my new eagle cassette, but as I keep tightening it seems that the cassette can still be lifted out and when it is lifted out, the XD freehub comes out together with it. Is this because I haven’t fully tightened it? What could I be doing wrong ?
Great video. I have a technical question that no bike shop seems to be able to answer. I hope you can help. I have a 29 inch Cube LTD 2014 mountain bike fitted with slick tires that I want to dedicate exclusively to asphalt riding, and I wanted to have the 12X1 described in the video but with bigger gears. So the question is if I can use the Sram gx eagle groupset, but instead of the gx eagle crank and ring, install a Sram Rival 1 X-Sync 10-11 speed Compact GXP crankset with a 50 tooth chainring. This ring also has the narrow wide profile of the teeth, so I think it should work with the 12 speed chain. The set up would take a rather long chain to accommodate a potential 50/50 pairing, but assuming that there are no clearance issues with any part of the bike frame, is this feasible? Thanks!
Hey! I saw that there was a thicker cable housing as well as the normal one coming out of your frame to the derailleur. Is this just to protect the cable better? Thx
How does it perform while shifting under load? Is it better than a GX shifter on that matter? Is it silent or do you still feel the pain when you perform the shift specially moving to bigger cogs in the cassette?
I have the same exact bike, 2016 Trek fuel , even the same color.. Its killing me to watch this cause now i want mine Upgraded.. My components are all rock beat up.. I was wondering of the cost, because money is tight right now.. Great video..
Does your chainring contact the chain stay? I see some marks on your bike right there, that I have also noticed on my bike after I switched to a larger front chainring. My chainring does not look like it has run into the frame, but the frame does!
Alternatively put the chain on the chainring and the smallest cog and then pull it untill the deraileur is tensioning the chain and then cut it there, that way you have the longest chain possible and dont have to worry about the suspension and it runs a lot smoother!
Xtr has a clutch, is it really important adding 2 extra links in the chain? Also, shimano recommends 9mm bscrew gap for cassettes larger than 42t, not sure if the 15mm gap is specific to eagle.
Why would you add 4 chain links on a hardtail and only 2 on a fully? Aren't the added links used to compensate for the movement of the rear suspension? On a hardtail, there is no movement at all, so there are no variables. Can you please explain? :)
I feel your knee pain. I just got a new bike with gx 1x11. I had a 2x10 which got me up most of the hills I wanted to get up easily, the 1x11 is like being 3 rings down on the rear cassette of the 2x. Is there a cheaper swap that I can do on my 1x 11 can I take off the 42 and put in a 44+?
Just got SRAm EAgle on a new bike coming from XTR 3 x 10. I find that the Shimano shifts to the smaller cogs much faster. Maybe its due to the closer gears or does XTR actually force the cable out and Sram just releases? Not sure but am surprised because no one else has really mentioned noticing this.
Subscribed and love your videos! I have an NX (non-eagle) SRAM drivetrain. If I'm understanding correctly, to upgrade to an eagle GX (or eagle NX for that matter) I need a new hub (to go from the shimano style to XD hub), derailleur, shifter, and cogs. But, I don't need to replace my 32T chainring or cranks, correct?
@@LoveMTB Cool! thanks for the suggestions. Pricing that out now! Curious - why that group vs the SRAM GX? Probably value for price. That cassette looks great! Do I need a new hanger (or is that specific to the bike and not the derailleur)?
When you're allining your hanger you use the valve as a reference point and just turn the wheel to the up, down and side positions and use the valve so even if your wheel is buckled it still is accurate. Didnt look like you were doing ut right
what is the rear axle spacing on that trek bike? some what off the subject, what is the most cogs I can fit on a 135mm spacing that has a 8 speed cassette? if I change the entire wheel and drivetrain how big can I go, number of cogs?
Cool! Your vídeo help me not only for learning about upgrade my Ktm myroon but also to improve my English comprehension. In my case i have a Sram XX1 11 gears but i would like to upgrade to 12 gears. How can i get it.? Is it necessary change all the components ? Thanks
are no space problems when you change from 11 to 12 speed at rear? i thought i also have to change the rear hub aswell?! at least when i want to change from 10 to 12?
Great video! So the 50T goes out of sync only on the stand? Please update this as the miles pile up if you have any out of sync issues while out on the trail...... I just don't understand how this 'out of sync' thing got past SRAM, be it only on the stand or otherwise.
I've probably put about 90 miles on my GX Eagle, and have had no issues. I'm a mechanic at a shop. The trick with these is to get the B-limit perfect in the stand, then you will have no issues on the trail. Mine has worked flawless everytime.
you must have some real big hills you only run a 32 tooth oval chain ring you should be able to run a 34 oval ring and still have plenty of climbing range nate hills runs a 36 chain ring with his xo1 50tooth cass what year is your fuel ex nice color
Wondering...does that 32 tooth non Eagle chain ring hold the chain on like a genuine SRAM Eagle ring? Did you know that was a feature of the genuine SRAM Eagle complete drivetrain?
I just got my xx1 dub eagle and been riding it for almost a month now and I’m using a 34t sram oval chainring, I noticed that when I shift from the largest cog down to the smallest cog, it would sometimes skip gears and then go back to the intended gear. Shifting up is perfect, shifting down is the problem
Got it all installed today, but I’m temporarily using my old GX 11 speed chainring while waiting for the Gx12 speed ring to arrive. I found that the chain is creaking when I am pedalling under load, on the larger cogs. Do you know what could be the problem? Is the chain not meshing properly due to me using an old (4 years) chainring?
Nice video!I have a question for you I have the GX drive train I would like to get a Sram 1299 gold cassette can I use my GX chain?Or do I have to use the Eagle gold XX1 chain?I have the GX Eagle 36 tooth chain ring up front any opinions or does it matter will it work.Thank You
I have a 2018 Trek Fuel EX 8 which comes with 1x12 GX Eagle, but the bike didn't come with the spacer tool. What is the correct technique to adjust the distance using the B screw without the spacing tool?
Nice video, I tried installing my GX Eagle Derailleur today and noticed when I adjust the high limit screw it won't go any further to the right hand side and is off by a few mm, any idea why this might be?
Thanks for replying, I haven't attached the shifter cable yet, could it be the hanger is not aligned correctly even though it's a brand new frame? I'm guessing it's unlikely the derailleur is a dud however when the high limit screw is adjusted as far as it can go it comes into contact with the arm which isn't good.
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the info. My first two rides with Eagle were not to great. I never got the sram chain gap tool so my b tension was way off. i was getting alot of chain chatter from the lower gears. Going to take out the bike to see if that's fixed.
@@LoveMTB Im starting to scratch my head now. I have the b tension prefect and the shifting is butter smooth across the hole cassette. But when i get into the lower gears im getting chain noise. i can feel it in the cranks and hear its really annoying. Maybe my chain length might be off. Here are some pics. farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/46795671651_83de6bd878_c.jpg farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/46795673741_f94c25a8b6_c.jpg I'm going to rebuild the hub soon. Its a bikehubstore MTB 270 hub witch has been great. Im going to get a steel axe 12x142 and a steel freehub body and new bearings.
Do you think the 36t will fit in fuel ex 8 29er eagle by putting spacer so the chainrinf will move rightward and the will not get rid to the frame although the factory said it max can fit is 32t. Pls answer
hi, do you know how thick is eagle cassette? I want upgrade to eagle drivetrain but I have 10 speed hub body with 3,7cm free place for cassette. Will thickness of eagle cassette fit that? My second bike has 3,5cm hub cassette body and 11 speed xt8000 cassette fit OK, there are 2 milimeters missing but it stay on place and works without problem..
LoveMTB , I am considering Sunrace 11-50t 12speed cassette which is shimano hub compatible but still I dont know its thickness. You didnt review Sunrace CSMZ 90 cassette yet, but I expect that will be same thickness as 12 speed eagle cassette, so I want that dimension just in case you maybe measured it..
The upgrade without the x-sync 2 won't give the real benefits of the system like the low friction and the great chain retention. And for those who have the spider cranksets, it is available the 104bcd chainring.
Don't believe all the marketing hype. The real benefit of this system is the 500% range (which you get with any chainrings) not the friction or chain retention that cannot really be quantified... of course SRAM will make up stories because they would like you to buy their new crankset or $80 chainrings. If you read mtbr or any other forums you will see that Eagle works with any NW chainrings.
I think it's not a belief question, but Engineering development, and real improvement that can be felt by any amateur rider. And be atempt to the cold forged GX chainrings, they're no more $40 expensive.
I'd be surprised if your statement - "real improvement that can be felt by any amateur rider" - could be proved to be true. I'm very skeptical about the marketing statements as if they were true Eagle shouldn't even work with other than X-Sync 2 chainrings - and it's definitely not the case... Btw in Europe the cheapest GX chainrings start from 55€. I'm not saying don't buy/use them but they are less miraculous than you might think and a 3rd party NW chainring for half price can be just as good.
Tamas Varga thats the question I was asking to people, finally aswered ... I will keep my 34t Sram 11speed chainring without worries and save U$92. Thanks !
32t chain ring is not big enough, you probably won't use the 50t in rear, if you do you'll be going so slow you may as well walk, I've had my 12 speed for over a year now, I ride on a 34t chainring, it gives me a full range, and adds torque in all gears. Nino runs a 38t chainring, I doubt anyone else could ever do that, the point is try bigger chainrings until you find the one that gives you a full range, on the trails you ride. the 12 speed is like going from a small block chevy to a big block, if set up properly, more torque, less rpm.
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This is a million times better than the official Sram installation video. So much clearer and much better filmed! Thanks a lot, it really helped! :D
It seriously is lol. I would feel comfortable installing it myself now. But damnnn that hanger hangs low!
Yeah, the SRAM video is dark and horrible! Sad from a manufacturer....those SHOULD be the best one out there.
I’m planning to retire my 4 year old GX 1x11 and swap to an Eagle GX. Great video. Will Be keeping my old cranks and getting an aftermarket 32T chainring. Just couldn’t be bothered to replace my old GX crank arms and GXP BB as they’re still good.
Thanks for posting. I have a 1x11 and planning to upgrade to the 1x12. Best video and explanation I've seen of how the system works.
Hi, id like to upgrade from a 2x10 sram gx to a 1x11 or 1x12. My hub is non xd compatible and don't want to change out my wheel. I'd like to keep about the same range of gears. What components do u suggest that are comparable or better than the standard sram gx line?
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Thanks for the great video -I personally went with the 30 tooth front as I found I wasn't using 12th gear and really appreciated the lower granny for those long and steep climbs.
What a nice walkthrough video! Definitely saved me :) Just replaced my 2x10 speed group with a new Sram GX Eagle group. Followed your tips step by step and everything works so well. Thanks alot for contributing to the mountainbike community in such a stellar way. Much appreciated! Thanks :)
Followed all steps in this video to install my 1x12. Great video, perfect info and my setup works perfectly. Thanks very much and great job!
i recently upgraded to x01/gx from nx i got a x01 derailleur and a gx cassete and shifter 100% worth it
This is such a clear presentation. I am going over and over it - as I install my GX upgrade.
Thank you!!!
@@LoveMTB
It is years between my bike upgrades and this last jump to the new geometry, 1x12, and dropper seat has been fantastic! I bought a Commencal Meta TR 29, and had the upgrades awaiting its its arrival. SRAM Twist Shifter, GX Derailleur, and GX Chain. (The Cassette/Hub upgrade will wait until I wear these out.) This Bike is a Climber and has taken me, in the last 2 weeks on Oregon Paths and Logging Roads that I could only dream of with my former (and still loved) Trek XC Hardtail. It is scary how far I keep going, right outside my door in the Oregon Coast Mountain Range. The only thing I continue to be unsure of is how to know if I have the B Gap set accurately. Commencal had already set the Gap for the stock NX Derailleur, but when I upgraded to the GX, I had to fumble through it alone.
Exceptional work sir! You got my 14 year old and I through the tougher parts of the powertrain build on his racer. Thanks sincerely!
Thanks for the post! Helped with my installment this evening and I was a little apprehensive about it being in the lower end of the EAgle system.... it is OUTSTANDING. You hit it right on the head, feels like Shimano shifting ..s m o o t h... impressed on how easy it was to put together as well.
I'm thinking of using this set for my trekking bike, i will carry a lot of weight and going up-hill can be a pain.
Hopefully this set should lighten the issue ! Awesome video.
Thank you for the very detailed and helpful video! Really liked the close-ups for the detailed views of the upgrade!
This is a great video it goes into depth how to put everything on and didn't leave anything technically important out. For people like me that prefer to do stuff like this myself its a great video.
Very effective video, thank you so much for sharing! I purchased X01 Eagle recently which was the first time to install a Sram groupset and this helped me a lot.
I bet that extended range was nice to have on the last climb at Enduro at the 1km mark. Excellent detailed video as always. Gave you a shout out during the race :)
Fantastic video. Very informative and outstanding camera work.
My one worry with the eagle is that extra long cage. I'm already smashing my XT long cage more than I'd like to admit. 😔 You'll have to let me know how yours does through rock gardens.
Wouldn't it be adding two links on a hardtail and 4 on a full suspension to account for chain growth throughout the travel
i added 4 when setting up my SLX 1x11 on my hardtail, seems to be fine for me
Excellent Excellent Excellent!
Cannot say it enough...... Thank you for such detail and clear, lucid, understandable direction.
@@LoveMTB
Awesome! And I subbed.
I love SRAM gears loads, I love that instant immediate click you get as it changes gears rather than the shimano 'has it or hasn't it' feel where you often need to look to see if it has switched sprockets.
I wonder if an electric version is very far away?....
Nice vid! Just made my first race with GX Eagle, same impressions as yours. That floating chain happened for the first 10km, then disappeared.
Last weekend was the Iron Biker Brasil. 2 days, 150km and 4000+m... 50t saved my life hahaha
this is just mtb pornography...love the setup.
Best instructional video ever. Thanks for the detailed and easy to understand adjustment advice.
Watching this video helped me understand a little more on the rear (duh lol) derailleur adjusting thanks for also that info......I have my 10x50 setup coming soooooo soon. Great video and clearly explained. Rod
Thanks, just the vid that provided the info I need. One thing you failed to mention is that you need an XD rear hub to make the 1x11-to-1x12 upgrade even possible, correct?
Awesome presentation here! I’m a novice and this is greatly helpful:)
Awesome video and the Eagle GX 1x12 is a great product. I've had zero issues with mine.
Great video ! Amazing job ! It was very usefull in my installation of this Rear Derailleur (With a Sunrace 12v in my case) . Great explanation, and great images. Greetings from Spain.
not sure I follow you, you went 12sp because it was the same 11sp cassette but with a bailout 50t but at the same time you upped your chainring???
Thanks! Better instructions than the SRAM website.
Very nice video indeed.
It can't be more clear. Images, explanations.... A huge "thanks"
Excellent video! Thank you for the detailed explanation on setting up a rear mech.
I just ordered one of these kits, i have an old shop-brand but fairly decent aluminium hardtail with a 3x9 drivet rain, i wonder if it will fit the rear hub at all.
Maby i will need a wider hub, or just go at it with a file to make room.
Looking forward to not having twist-style shifters with way too many gear combinations to choose from.
I allways shift wrong, even tho i have used them for years.
It's something about them that's counter intuitive for me.
Bought ten speed gx, it shifted poorly and then broke 2 weeks later, wasn't impressed. Ordered shimano Saint de railer and shit it's good, amazing shifting and no chain slap on my enduro rig, had to move down to a 32 tooth rear cog so have to sacrifice a little but I would say it is worth it, will be going xtr next year and hope that will be as good. I wanted to like sram but so many problems I just can't.
Thanks for your great video. I’m just installing my new eagle cassette, but as I keep tightening it seems that the cassette can still be lifted out and when it is lifted out, the XD freehub comes out together with it. Is this because I haven’t fully tightened it? What could I be doing wrong ?
LoveMTB my hubs are the stock ones with my SRAM ROAM30 wheelset. Someone told me that they adopted DT style designs?
LoveMTB thanks for that tip. Installed nicely last night.
I have a question: Do you degrease the new chain ? Or leave on the factory grease ? tnx for the video btw!
Agreed!
Great video. I have a technical question that no bike shop seems to be able to answer. I hope you can help. I have a 29 inch Cube LTD 2014 mountain bike fitted with slick tires that I want to dedicate exclusively to asphalt riding, and I wanted to have the 12X1 described in the video but with bigger gears. So the question is if I can use the Sram gx eagle groupset, but instead of the gx eagle crank and ring, install a Sram Rival 1 X-Sync 10-11 speed Compact GXP crankset with a 50 tooth chainring. This ring also has the narrow wide profile of the teeth, so I think it should work with the 12 speed chain. The set up would take a rather long chain to accommodate a potential 50/50 pairing, but assuming that there are no clearance issues with any part of the bike frame, is this feasible? Thanks!
Hey! I saw that there was a thicker cable housing as well as the normal one coming out of your frame to the derailleur. Is this just to protect the cable better? Thx
LOVE this video bro
How does it perform while shifting under load? Is it better than a GX shifter on that matter? Is it silent or do you still feel the pain when you perform the shift specially moving to bigger cogs in the cassette?
I have the same exact bike, 2016 Trek fuel , even the same color.. Its killing me to watch this cause now i want mine Upgraded.. My components are all rock beat up.. I was wondering of the cost, because money is tight right now.. Great video..
Great video! I enjoyed watching it and learned how to install my own kit. Thanks
Does your chainring contact the chain stay? I see some marks on your bike right there, that I have also noticed on my bike after I switched to a larger front chainring. My chainring does not look like it has run into the frame, but the frame does!
Would you please tell me which 32t or 34t oval non SRAM chainring with offset for BOOST I should buy? Thanks and great video!
Wow definitely learned a lot from your video compared to others!
Alternatively put the chain on the chainring and the smallest cog and then pull it untill the deraileur is tensioning the chain and then cut it there, that way you have the longest chain possible and dont have to worry about the suspension and it runs a lot smoother!
Xtr has a clutch, is it really important adding 2 extra links in the chain? Also, shimano recommends 9mm bscrew gap for cassettes larger than 42t, not sure if the 15mm gap is specific to eagle.
Why would you add 4 chain links on a hardtail and only 2 on a fully? Aren't the added links used to compensate for the movement of the rear suspension? On a hardtail, there is no movement at all, so there are no variables. Can you please explain? :)
I feel your knee pain. I just got a new bike with gx 1x11. I had a 2x10 which got me up most of the hills I wanted to get up easily, the 1x11 is like being 3 rings down on the rear cassette of the 2x. Is there a cheaper swap that I can do on my 1x 11 can I take off the 42 and put in a 44+?
Just got SRAm EAgle on a new bike coming from XTR 3 x 10. I find that the Shimano shifts to the smaller cogs much faster. Maybe its due to the closer gears or does XTR actually force the cable out and Sram just releases? Not sure but am surprised because no one else has really mentioned noticing this.
Such detail on this video. btw I dont know much about oval chainrings, what does it do?
Subscribed and love your videos! I have an NX (non-eagle) SRAM drivetrain. If I'm understanding correctly, to upgrade to an eagle GX (or eagle NX for that matter) I need a new hub (to go from the shimano style to XD hub), derailleur, shifter, and cogs. But, I don't need to replace my 32T chainring or cranks, correct?
@@LoveMTB Cool! thanks for the suggestions. Pricing that out now! Curious - why that group vs the SRAM GX? Probably value for price. That cassette looks great! Do I need a new hanger (or is that specific to the bike and not the derailleur)?
When you're allining your hanger you use the valve as a reference point and just turn the wheel to the up, down and side positions and use the valve so even if your wheel is buckled it still is accurate. Didnt look like you were doing ut right
LoveMTB didn't mean it as as criticism just letting you know so don't bend your hanger even more
what is the rear axle spacing on that trek bike? some what off the subject, what is the most cogs I can fit on a 135mm spacing that has a 8 speed cassette? if I change the entire wheel and drivetrain how big can I go, number of cogs?
Cool! Your vídeo help me not only for learning about upgrade my Ktm myroon but also to improve my English comprehension. In my case i have a Sram XX1 11 gears but i would like to upgrade to 12 gears. How can i get it.? Is it necessary change all the components ? Thanks
LoveMTB For sure! But I wouldn’t lose the feeling of the shifter current XX1 ajjaja
Whats the trick to keep the chain from falling or coming out of crank at jumps and bumps, I can't get it to stay on!!
So my current set up is 1 x 11 on my stumpjumper. Will the 1x 12 set up fit my bike without replacing the hubs?
are no space problems when you change from 11 to 12 speed at rear? i thought i also have to change the rear hub aswell?! at least when i want to change from 10 to 12?
So far all Rd's I have used had as much play in the cage when they were new, shimano,& Box.
Great video! So the 50T goes out of sync only on the stand? Please update this as the miles pile up if you have any out of sync issues while out on the trail...... I just don't understand how this 'out of sync' thing got past SRAM, be it only on the stand or otherwise.
I've probably put about 90 miles on my GX Eagle, and have had no issues. I'm a mechanic at a shop. The trick with these is to get the B-limit perfect in the stand, then you will have no issues on the trail. Mine has worked flawless everytime.
What gears do you guys wear out the fastest?
was planning on getting a Trek Roscoe will this fit that bike.
you must have some real big hills you only run a 32 tooth oval chain ring you should be able to run a 34 oval ring and still have plenty of climbing range nate hills runs a 36 chain ring with his xo1 50tooth cass what year is your fuel ex nice color
The power stroke of the 32 oval is about that of a 34 round, so not too far off.
nate hills, blah blah blah, who the fuk cares what someone else rides? nate hills is a 125 pound girl for crissakes.
I have the 11 speed with a 28 ring on my 6fattie. And it's not enough, I'm not Lance Armstrong! 😁
My xx1 shifts like that on 13:26 when I place it on my stand, why is it happening? And is it true that brand new drivetrains doesn’t ship perfectly?
Wondering...does that 32 tooth non Eagle chain ring hold the chain on like a genuine SRAM Eagle ring? Did you know that was a feature of the genuine SRAM Eagle complete drivetrain?
why is the front ring looks so oblong ovally when the crank is turned
Whats your honest review about the shifting is it better than Shimano? do you recommend Brakes for Shimano then the rest is Sram? Thanks!
@@LoveMTBNow i have a clearer idea what drivetrain i should put on my build bike..Thanks!
I just got my xx1 dub eagle and been riding it for almost a month now and I’m using a 34t sram oval chainring, I noticed that when I shift from the largest cog down to the smallest cog, it would sometimes skip gears and then go back to the intended gear. Shifting up is perfect, shifting down is the problem
LoveMTB ok noted, should I lube the cable?
Last question if you don’t mind, Should I change my stock cable to a teflon coated cable?
LoveMTB ok thanks!
What an excellent video. Very informative.
Hi there, have you experienced back pedaling issue?
Got it all installed today, but I’m temporarily using my old GX 11 speed chainring while waiting for the Gx12 speed ring to arrive. I found that the chain is creaking when I am pedalling under load, on the larger cogs. Do you know what could be the problem? Is the chain not meshing properly due to me using an old (4 years) chainring?
LoveMTB i greased the freehub splines and threads, and also dabbed a bit on the cassette threads. Should be enough?
Nice video!I have a question for you I have the GX drive train I would like to get a Sram 1299 gold cassette can I use my GX chain?Or do I have to use the Eagle gold XX1 chain?I have the GX Eagle 36 tooth chain ring up front any opinions or does it matter will it work.Thank You
Thank you 🙏🏻
Super educating video, thanks a lot
how do you barrel adjust from the rear mech tho ???
I have a 2018 Trek Fuel EX 8 which comes with 1x12 GX Eagle, but the bike didn't come with the spacer tool. What is the correct technique to adjust the distance using the B screw without the spacing tool?
I adjust the upper guide when in 2nd gear to about 1 mm clearance relative to the largest sprocket. Very crisp shifting.
What is the cost for this whole setup? Im using a 1x10 right now
This video is legit! 👍🏻👍🏻
Make sure whenever you straighten your hanger you need to true your wheel first. Otherwise your truing your hanger to a untrue wheel.
Where did you get that b tension gap tool
Could the chain riding up on the 50T be caused from being too short? I know it only did it on the stand.
LoveMTB Well, thanks for the vid either way. It helped me decide. Ordered GX 1x12 eagle with Sunrace cassette. Subscribed 👍
Nice video, I tried installing my GX Eagle Derailleur today and noticed when I adjust the high limit screw it won't go any further to the right hand side and is off by a few mm, any idea why this might be?
Thanks for replying, I haven't attached the shifter cable yet, could it be the hanger is not aligned correctly even though it's a brand new frame? I'm guessing it's unlikely the derailleur is a dud however when the high limit screw is adjusted as far as it can go it comes into contact with the arm which isn't good.
So many money's lol.you got some awesome detailed videos tho thanks it helps people alot
planning to change my slx chainring 34t into oval. is there a huge difference? which one is better overall oval or normal?
danielrobert baui just changed to oval, best thing i did for the bike smooths out the pedal stroke and makes climbing effortless esp over roots
How do you like the oval cain ring?
Super nice Video; very helpful… i have 1 question… can i use my old 12 speed chain from th nx deraileur.?(chain length?)
I will upgrade gx
@@LoveMTB thank you for the fast answer✌🏾
@@LoveMTB I rebuild my bike the same way and your videos help me a lot ... have the xo1 shifter with GX derailleur …this make it easy for me
Hello, what chain size you use? And 11s nw chainring works with this system? Thanks for video
LoveMTB thanks, i found 120links with Gold price in eBay, i think its work with 34t
the 15mm gap your talking about. So are we measuring from the tip of each tooth>?
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the info. My first two rides with Eagle were not to great. I never got the sram chain gap tool so my b tension was way off. i was getting alot of chain chatter from the lower gears. Going to take out the bike to see if that's fixed.
@@LoveMTB Im starting to scratch my head now. I have the b tension prefect and the shifting is butter smooth across the hole cassette. But when i get into the lower gears im getting chain noise. i can feel it in the cranks and hear its really annoying. Maybe my chain length might be off. Here are some pics. farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/46795671651_83de6bd878_c.jpg
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I'm going to rebuild the hub soon. Its a bikehubstore MTB 270 hub witch has been great. Im going to get a steel axe 12x142 and a steel freehub body and new bearings.
Very helpful, well explained
Does it fit in a Shimano FH-M3050-CL hub???
Nice video. Excellent information.
Rear shock upgrade before this surely?
How long do the components last? In compare to 11 and 10 gears?
I currently use a 1×10 with 36 in the back and 38 in the front and its way to big.
LoveMTB Okay, and will a 12 speed fit on the bike? It s from 2012
LoveMTB no, but a Sram Cassette... would an XD freehub fit?
Do you think the 36t will fit in fuel ex 8 29er eagle by putting spacer so the chainrinf will move rightward and the will not get rid to the frame although the factory said it max can fit is 32t. Pls answer
LoveMTB its 2018 fuel ex 8 29er eagle. And i think it have PF BB
LoveMTB ok thanks i will find out.
How do you turn the clutch on ?
hi, do you know how thick is eagle cassette? I want upgrade to eagle drivetrain but I have 10 speed hub body with 3,7cm free place for cassette. Will thickness of eagle cassette fit that? My second bike has 3,5cm hub cassette body and 11 speed xt8000 cassette fit OK, there are 2 milimeters missing but it stay on place and works without problem..
LoveMTB , I am considering Sunrace 11-50t 12speed cassette which is shimano hub compatible but still I dont know its thickness. You didnt review Sunrace CSMZ 90 cassette yet, but I expect that will be same thickness as 12 speed eagle cassette, so I want that dimension just in case you maybe measured it..
exelente video y muchas gracias
Would any 11 speed chainring work.
The upgrade without the x-sync 2 won't give the real benefits of the system like the low friction and the great chain retention. And for those who have the spider cranksets, it is available the 104bcd chainring.
Don't believe all the marketing hype. The real benefit of this system is the 500% range (which you get with any chainrings) not the friction or chain retention that cannot really be quantified... of course SRAM will make up stories because they would like you to buy their new crankset or $80 chainrings. If you read mtbr or any other forums you will see that Eagle works with any NW chainrings.
I think it's not a belief question, but Engineering development, and real improvement that can be felt by any amateur rider. And be atempt to the cold forged GX chainrings, they're no more $40 expensive.
I'd be surprised if your statement - "real improvement that can be felt by any amateur rider" - could be proved to be true. I'm very skeptical about the marketing statements as if they were true Eagle shouldn't even work with other than X-Sync 2 chainrings - and it's definitely not the case... Btw in Europe the cheapest GX chainrings start from 55€. I'm not saying don't buy/use them but they are less miraculous than you might think and a 3rd party NW chainring for half price can be just as good.
Tamas Varga thats the question I was asking to people, finally aswered ... I will keep my 34t Sram 11speed chainring without worries and save U$92.
Thanks !
32t chain ring is not big enough, you probably won't use the 50t in rear, if you do you'll be going so slow you may as well walk, I've had my 12 speed for over a year now, I ride on a 34t chainring, it gives me a full range, and adds torque in all gears. Nino runs a 38t chainring, I doubt anyone else could ever do that, the point is try bigger chainrings until you find the one that gives you a full range, on the trails you ride. the 12 speed is like going from a small block chevy to a big block, if set up properly, more torque, less rpm.
Great video as usual
Thanks
It possible to use 11 speed chain to 12 speed cassate? Any issues if we use it to 12 speed cassate or the RD?
Great. Thanks
Nice revue, thank´s
i think the problem with the lowest gear is that your using an oval chainring.
Why the oval chain ring?