SRAM SX Eagle Upgrades, Recommendations, Adjustment - 12 Speed Eagle SX Quick Check

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  • @Scarab002
    @Scarab002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My bike came with full SX and I could never make it shift just right. I'm convinced that the whole derailleur had just way too much play. Then the main cage joint developed play, nullifying the limit screw settings, which even caused the chain to jump off from the 50t into the spokes.
    I recently upgraded the derailleur and shifter to the new lunar GX and installed a X01 chain. The difference in shifting precision is absolutely staggering.

  • @MrDistill
    @MrDistill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Always great no nonsense content. Really appreciate it.

  • @TheRealColt
    @TheRealColt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had the older sram 11 speed sx with the powerspline and bike worked great for 5 years consistent riding about 3-4000 miles before the powerspline was worse for wear and tear but still continued to ride for about 2-300 miles considering getting a full new updated sram group set when more things start to go on it however this video has made me consider mixing and matching components, something I previously didn’t know thank you

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great review as usual! On my X01/GX mixed drivetrain on my Chameleon, I recently replaced the GX chain with an X01 chain (because of the same article you read) and my chain falling off the 50T cog while back pedaling issue has vanished.... no other changes. 3 years with GX chains, I could not get 1 full revolution without it dropping, and now I can back pedal all day. The X01 chain is far more laterally compliant than the GX chain and I can only guess that is the reason why?? Whatever it is, it's awesome!

  • @pabloGAGV
    @pabloGAGV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My bike came with the PowerSpline version of the SX. I used it for 4000 kms without problems until the rear derailleur bent. Considering it is a cheap grupo I was pretty satisfied with it. After that I decided to upgrade to a GX 2021 shifter and rear derailleur as well as for a NX dub cranckset. Now everything works super crisp!

    • @esanchez47
      @esanchez47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My bike came with powerspline too, can i ask if it's normal that the left side (left arm) doesn't have spacers? for the big space it has between the frame and the arm, it get's really dirty inside...

    • @coerce
      @coerce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@esanchez47 yes it’s normal

  • @chubscoi
    @chubscoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I would use most of the SX parts except the derailleur and shifter, these parts i would actually choose GX or XO1
    Edit: and probably some gold kmc12s chain for le bling

  • @artixsweden
    @artixsweden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started my upgrade on my Scott Scale 970 with changing SRAM SX shifter and derailleur to Shimano XT. Works perfectly 👌

    • @valentinoisaias7268
      @valentinoisaias7268 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you keep the cassette, chain and everything else from the sram sx eagle? How did the change work?

  • @uriberry
    @uriberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Replaced my garbage SX RD with a lunar GX. Improved shifting by a lot, works great now.

  • @kurtharrington1973
    @kurtharrington1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, thank you very much. I have a new / mid 2020 RSD Middle Child that came with SX group... with minimal ride time over the course of ~8 months, the rear derailleur broke. Searching now for the upgrade to improve durability while limiting the need for other changes. Thanks again, very helpful!

  • @mytoyota80
    @mytoyota80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My bike came with the dub SX crank and the rest are Shimano RD and Shifter.
    This is my first Sram and I won’t be upgrading since I really think that this SX crank is good enough for my need however I did replaced the chainring to aluminum and that’s about it.
    Thanks for your review on this SX dub crank.
    Keep up the good work

  • @WGazeon
    @WGazeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hehe pretty accurate, would keep the group as is except the RD and the Shifter. I upgraded mine to GX works awesome thus far!

    • @Diego-oy6en
      @Diego-oy6en 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was this a worthwhile upgrade? My local bike shop recommended this with a yearly tune up I am doing but not sure if it’s worth the $125

    • @WGazeon
      @WGazeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Diego-oy6en If you can go to GX that would be better, but given that SRAM has modified the RD for 2021 model year hopefully that would resolve the issues that plagued the current -old SX RD.

    • @Diego-oy6en
      @Diego-oy6en 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WGazeon Thank you for the reply, I’m going forward with the GX derailer but not the shifter, at least for now. This is for a Roscoe 7 2020

  • @mattelliott5242
    @mattelliott5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great videos as always. Last year I bought xt 12 speed based off your recommendation and as it was a great group set a tiny bit smoother at shifting then the competition I’m going back to gx eagle as I prefer the shifter ergonomics, completely subjective it feels better quality and I like going from 42 to 50 tooth for a bail out gear. Reason I like the spacing better as I know when I’m in the easiest gear. I feel like shimano sneaks up on me and wanting more gear range because of it. At the end of the day amazing group sets. Also one thing I noticed is comparing xt and gx on a hard tail I don’t feel one shifts better then the next but noticeable on a full squish. Thanks again for sharing your experience with different group sets. I also noticed a lot of long term comment on shimano 12 speed are negative I can’t comment as I only have a season on shimano but price wise there killing it.

    • @engibike
      @engibike ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. What about your chain líne? Rear and front?

  • @rwogmtb-ridingwitholdguy
    @rwogmtb-ridingwitholdguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video and good comments, I can add one piece of experience with the SX derailleur. It is not very durable a small branch got caught up and ripped it off my bike. The piece where it bolts to the hanger is plastic and broke even before bending the hanger which is designed to be the weak point. Replaced it with NX as that piece is metal on the NX, no issues since.

  • @benmillns8976
    @benmillns8976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've heard nothing but bad things about SX, much better option is to go for Deore I think.
    Surprised to hear about the chains though. I thought more expensive chains were just lighter with hollow pins and links etc. I only use KMC SL and Shimano Hg901 chains and they do seem to last a long time.

  • @akafoxmd
    @akafoxmd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video, I wish I've seen this earlier. But this is exactly what I've made with my stock SX groupset, I've changed to NX derailleur and shifter. I wish I've studied more before starting and I didn't know that the cassette will work fine for GX derailleur as well. If I knew I would change to GX right from the start. SX derailleur is 100% plastic garbage just for one season to understand basics of 1x12 system. Wish everyone a good trails!

  • @vannipaolo
    @vannipaolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did the same things you said in your review!
    I changed rear derailleur, shifter and chain with GX group, I only kept the cassette (cause my rear hub was a Shimano with the old freebody...)
    Good review as usual, thubs up!
    Cheers!

    • @drmoynihan
      @drmoynihan ปีที่แล้ว

      I did the same on the day when I received my Commencal 2020 which came with NX. I replaced the "rear derailleur, shifter and chain with GX group, I only kept the cassette (cause my rear hub was a Shimano with the old freebody...)."
      2 years later and I am still very happy with the performance.
      And because of all of the mentioned reviews, my latest new chain is a Eagle X01.

  • @franbelta1533
    @franbelta1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always remember to anyone who’s been in the mtb scene for a while then being picky with parts is normal and needed, but if your a newbie like me anything better than what you can get for 400$ on offer up lol, then lower end stuff experienced guys don’t like will be a big plus to noobs haha great vid

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  • @DumbDogIsDumb
    @DumbDogIsDumb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the detailed info. I want to get my wife a fairly cheap MTB that comes with the SX drivetrain. My new bike has a GX group, which has been great. My thought was to get the GX AXS upgrade for my bike and put the GX derailleur and shifter on hers. Based on your video, it seems like this should work.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will work just fine great plan👍

  • @ezemen
    @ezemen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just the video I was looking for! Thank you very much for the tips and the details, very useful information. Good vibes from Mexico ✌🏼

  • @jitodiaz
    @jitodiaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great great video. Very informative! well done and thanks for the recommendations.

  • @AlexA-nx9bf
    @AlexA-nx9bf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had 2021 SX on my Focus Thron2...the deraileur was junk...it skipped from the small cog and snapped the Sram SX chain twice.
    I binned it and now run XX1 shifter and deraileur and a KMC chain and its smooth as butter.

  • @thesinofthetin
    @thesinofthetin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2022 Trek Marlin 8 came with the new revised SX Rear Deraulier. It and the shifter had major issues. Ended up just replacing the SX Rear Derauiler and shifter with GX Eagle.

    • @thesinofthetin
      @thesinofthetin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB The shifter actually jammed and stopped working like a day before the race. So we scrambled to find a bikeshop. Luckily we managed to.

  • @scottamolinari
    @scottamolinari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. I'm buying a Scott Strike 930 and it has the SX/NX level SRAM kit. It is a lesser expensive eMTB, so later, if I get serious, I now know what is going to be necessary to change to.

  • @frieriernesto
    @frieriernesto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the SX on my Scott Scale 970 2020. I broke the SX derailleur and switch to Deore. I maintain the SX shifter. Is working great.

    • @frieriernesto
      @frieriernesto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Scott si a great bike but I prefer the ones that comes with Shimano groupsets for 2 reasons: Shimano is cheaper and have better support and availability of pieces here in my 3rd world country (Colombia). Here Sram is ridiculously expensive. I didnt expect that when I bought the bike. Now the Scale 980 2021 version comes with Deore 1x12 and the 970 keeps the SX. The Only upgrade of the 970 versus the 980 is the Rock Shox air suspension fork. I strongly recommend the Deore groupset over the SX. Also the Deore comes with a better cassette range (10-51 vs 11-50 for the SX). Do we need more? I don't think so.

  • @WaRn00b85
    @WaRn00b85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for your informative videos man. Helped me a lot with making some choices on upgrades for my bike.

  • @patchesthejaybird8431
    @patchesthejaybird8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinks in your cable... Yes! I had shifting problems with my GX derailleur. It turns out there was a kink in the cable inside the twist shifter where I could not see it. Cable was factory installed in the twist shifter, but maybe was kinked due to my installation? Once I got that sorted out, the shifting just fell into place! I used that same shimano cable housing, really good stuff.

  • @andyfpt
    @andyfpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous video! I have a 2021 Stumpjumper alloy, while the bike is great for my relatively gentle riding, the sx is a definite weak link in bike. Despite having it adjusted it shifts sluggish and not with snappy reliability of other bikes I've ridden. The local bike mechanic didn't think that the GX would make much a difference but videos like this make me think the upgrade might be worthwhile.

    • @lucasmarquis8990
      @lucasmarquis8990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro kinda same. I just bought gx cranks and upgraded to dub bb from powerspline for my 2020 stumpjumper st

    • @andyfpt
      @andyfpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB Thanks. Should I do the shifter as well or just go with the derailluer?

    • @beejaysaenz3035
      @beejaysaenz3035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure what component of the drive train your local bike mechanic is referring to but switching out your SX derailleur and shifter to GX and above makes a world of a difference. I have the same SX grupo and had shifting issues within the first 100 miles. After a couple trips to LBS for adjustments I ended up swapping out to X01 shifter and derailleur along with XX1 gold chain for bling and longevity but still using SX cassette and crankset and couldn't be any happier.

    • @andyfpt
      @andyfpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beejaysaenz3035 Thank you for additional information that will help me make a decision to upgrade from SX. I had specifically asked my LBS about swapping the SX derailleur for the GX--- they said it's not worth it and wouldn't see a difference. But clearly I'm reading plenty of evidence that it will. I'm thinking some bike mechanics, while good at fixing things, aren't so good at discerning the actual on trail differences in component performance. So yeah the SX isn't bad but it's slow and a bit sloppy compared to other bikes I've ridden. I like your idea with the XX1 gold chain also! Thank you!

  • @ademirgoodjunior3371
    @ademirgoodjunior3371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had really bad experience with SX, I dnt do trails, just off road,at first it shifts ok, then starts to be noisy, then starts to shift ok again, then ghost gear changes, nightmare, the screws in the shifter just fell off, u cannot replace that type of screw, so i needed to wrap it with tape, I bought another bike with new GX 2021, and it doesnt even seen the same brand, shifts perfectly, already put more than a thousand km on it and it doesnt need to adjust... For my bike with sx I will do exactly what u did...

  • @patrickprouty4415
    @patrickprouty4415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Good info. I have the SX groupo on my $500 MTB. I did have to straighten the derailure. No issues except rear hub is this old style with 2 pawls for engagement so that large pie plate cassette has a lot of slack in the low gear before engagement. These huge cassettes need the new hubs with at least double the engagement or more. Wheels maybe my first upgrade. Obviously I don’t ride wicked trails with this MTB. I have 120 acres hay meadow I ride around for exercise when not on my $8000 road bike🙄. When it breaks I’ll know what too upgrade with. Thanks.

  • @richardwebb3013
    @richardwebb3013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Upgraded the SX SHIFTER and derailleur to NX. Positive difference. Would you recommend getting the NX (steel ring) or GX (aluminum) crankset.....or keep the SX cranks and just upgrade the brackett to BB hub? I ride easy medium bike parks on Trek Roscoe 7 hard tail.

  • @Mr.P.Griffith
    @Mr.P.Griffith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I installed an sx groupset on my 2019 trek marlin 5. I had to replace the rear wheel but I got a deal on an Inine build and it sounds awesome. The groupset cost $325 cad and was a game changer. It works perfectly, crisp clean shifting, dead silent and it got my bike down to 28lbs. I've upgraded everything but the brakes, that still stop me on a dime.

    • @eilbron
      @eilbron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sx fits on trek marlin wheel without replacing the wheel fyi

    • @Mr.P.Griffith
      @Mr.P.Griffith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eilbron the m5 switched from a freewheel to a cassette in 2020. I got mine in mid 2019.

    • @eilbron
      @eilbron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.P.Griffith oh i see

  • @tonybb
    @tonybb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I upgraded from sx to x01 shifter and gx derailleur, its so much sharper and cleaner than sx

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, to be expected

  • @thangpham7555
    @thangpham7555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am using a shimano deore HG 11speed Hub, QR standard 135mm, can I use this sram NX 12 speed cassette?

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can

    • @thangpham7555
      @thangpham7555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LoveMTB thanksgiving

  • @torresharbin
    @torresharbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of info in this video , thanks!! Questions if you change derailleur to GX do you need to change cable as well ? Or does it work with the shifter and cable?

    • @torresharbin
      @torresharbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB oh ok perfect thank you!

  • @Montblanc1986
    @Montblanc1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had good luck with SX but my early NX had 3 pulley wheel failures, it fell out of the bike... SRAM eventually replaced it with GX and that GX lasted a few thousand miles until I sold the bike. The bike with SX had non drivetrain issues but SX ran great

    • @Montblanc1986
      @Montblanc1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB when riding suddenly I felt a bang/pop from drivetrain. The upper jockey wheel was damaged, bent to the side severely on the first one. Second NX derailleur failed after just a few hours riding again but it totally fell out. Luckily I could pedal the bike in the 50T. With the cage lock and just one pulley. I got good at this. Third time again it fell out all the way. SRAM finally sent a GX. The next season I had a winter bike with SX it worked great.

  • @Bronfps
    @Bronfps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ordered a gx derailleur on my rockhopper expert with sx groupset should I go for xx1 derailleur and do you suggest I put ceramic bearing wheels in it?

  • @cloterico
    @cloterico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a full XX1 Eagle for arround 5000 miles. I used 2 XX1 chains and then i had to change the chain again. I was afraid that the cassette would not accept the new chain so i bought a cheaper NX chain. The good news is that the cassette accepted the chain. The bad news is that the NX chain is a piece of crap. It gains rust like nothing i have ever seen.
    I will try to do 1000 miles with that and then buy a new XX1 cassette and chain.

  • @gabrielcalegari4717
    @gabrielcalegari4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using this group on an Scott Scale 970 2021 (default groupset in 2021 model ), I live in Brazil and a lot of my trails here has dirt, big elvations and bad terrain... for sure, this group is fine for me... I used it in trails with about 50Km 70Km 3~4 hours of outdoor, last week I just ran about 200Km with this group and no issues found since I bought this in October 2020, I just go to the bike shop once to configure the rear derailleur that lost configuration in a couple of center up-down kogs. for 2021 maybe I will join an GX but for sure this SX is very good in my opinion... already get rain and a lot of mud in this no issues found... again I live in a tropical country so... the only thing I've done is keep it lub and clean after a big week of trainnings. Kr,

    • @ademirgoodjunior3371
      @ademirgoodjunior3371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      acho que a tua bike veio com SX 2021, peguei uma sense imp sl 2020 com sx e incomodou bastante ja, mecanico ja fez 4 regulagens, e a ultima vez foi uma desmontagem total e revisao geral do cambio, bike deve ta com 1500km.. pego muito estradao, qdo for fazer o up com GX pega o 2021+ não desrregula nunca mais..

    • @gabrielcalegari4717
      @gabrielcalegari4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ademirgoodjunior3371 opa era o modelo 2021 mesmo ! hoje ele ja foi substituido, um amigo se interessou pelo desempenho do SX e foi comprado por ele, rodando hoje proximo as 3k KM se comporta muito bem... porem hoje estou em um XX1 Gold, quanto a regulagem, tanto no SX quanto no XX1 não tive problemas, o grande diferencial que eu sinto hoje é a possibilidade de trocar de marcha pedalando em pé e nao sentir nada.... o gatilho do XX1 tem uma resposta absurdamente superior, plastico vs carbono... n tem muito o que discutir rs... vai ser substituido por um GX Axs em 2022... na proxima magrela.. boas pedaladas ! abs !

    • @ademirgood1530
      @ademirgood1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrielcalegari4717 que sonho meu, não tive oportunidade de testar o X01 nem o XX1, mas deve ser show poder mudar marcha sem aliviar o pedal. o GX eu ja arrisco as vezes, mas não facilito muito, valeu... tmj

  • @journeyman6752
    @journeyman6752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much helpful info, instant sub.
    I'm wanting to replace my SX derailleur soon and the GX is a straight swap or is a Deore better?

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would go GX or even NX straight swap

  • @davidmeloni8282
    @davidmeloni8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like I am one of the “happy” SX users.
    My only annoyance is the derailleur that features no clutch, but shortening the chain by 2 links or shifting to a bigger cog on downhill sections helps a lot to avoid the cage slapping around due to the chain it has to hold.
    It seems like you didn’t mention it in the video, but the SX cassette is 100gr heavier than the NX. My NX PG1230 was 614gr and my SX PG1210 was 709gr.
    I’m waiting for my SX cassette to wear out to upgrade to the Sunrace CSMZ903, but availability in Europe isn’t great. A lot of online shops are out of stock with the 903, some still have the MZ90. But the 90 is heavy and still has the 8 tooth jump between the 42 and 50, which the 903 doesn’t have due to the Shimano jumps between gear (51,45)

  • @abshassan
    @abshassan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    recently bought a Trek Marlin 8 with the SX groupset, took the bike into the bike shop for its 1 month tune-up and on the notes, the bike mechanic wrote that the chain was at 50% wear, This is in 600km of riding, pretty poor life! and i look after my drive train, lubed fairly regularly.

    • @getstrongby4038
      @getstrongby4038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB it is the cheapest, but 1 month is nothing to be at 50%

  • @vinceigmeme5104
    @vinceigmeme5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a GX lunar RD, would you recommend it ? Or should I change it to SLX RD?
    I really like your Videos and your Voice 😊
    Thanks

  • @Dman90
    @Dman90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video just what I needed like everything 👍

  • @joen3992
    @joen3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the trails of Niagara, I've seen riders snap their SX rear mech from use. It cannot handle constant fast shifting through rain and mud on a trail..dozens of guys have upgraded the chain and rear mech to NX and GX. Without issues in performance.

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the nx 12 speed groupset on my scott 900 elite(2020 scale 940 but in silver) and the whole bike was only 1300€, but the weight of the groupset and the rest of the components did not complement the xmf scale frame. Sx is probably as heavy because of the cassette.

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sram dub crank was a major reason why i went w shimano... the 54nm torque is ridiculous and the 29mm spindle limits bb compatibility... i also dont like how they marketed 12 sp as 'eagle'

  • @Kotešiša
    @Kotešiša 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have sx groupset and sx deraillerium snapped so i changed it with gx should i also change to gx shifter? Will it shift smoother?
    Ty for awesome video.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kotešiša ish…
      Won’t be a huge noticeable difference but if you ever have any issue change the shifter also

    • @Kotešiša
      @Kotešiša 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LoveMTB Thanks man!

  • @adamneulander
    @adamneulander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just picked up an x01 shifter for my sx drivetrain!

    • @adamneulander
      @adamneulander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @lucasvermet67 I've got a fabric chainstay guard so paint damage isn't an issue, as for the chain snapping, I frequently check the chain wear with a gauge, so it's unlikely it will just out of the blue snap. Still, I think I will upgrade to NX or gx derailleur (or maybe switch to shimano) as soon as it's an issue, but so far it's been smooth sailing.

    • @adamneulander
      @adamneulander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @lucasvermet67 ok, right now I've sort of spent a bit more money than I should have on that x01 shifter and other things, but I'll swap my derailleur once I have the budget, I think you ride a bit harder than me. Maybe I'll get a Shimano derailleur, because I've learned from this channel that it'll work with a sram shifter, and a deore derailleur is a lot less than an NX, but is apparently actually made for mtb.

  • @thisdewd007
    @thisdewd007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video!

  • @vegetarischerdrachenlord901
    @vegetarischerdrachenlord901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, don’t understand that much. So u don’t recommend this SX right? I want to buy a new bike maybe from cube and it has a lot of SX components:O

  • @TheTappyOne
    @TheTappyOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate this video!

  • @Rbnsssll
    @Rbnsssll ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, i have a few questions about mix matching the drivetrain components. My bike has a sram sx eagle components and I am planning to replace my rear derailleur as I’ve noticed it is plastic. Im planning to replace it with a slx or a deore xt Rear derailleur, Can i use the slx or deore xt Rear derailleur with my sram sx shifter? Or do i need to also replace my shifter with a slx or deore xt shifter? If so, does the slx or deore xt Rear Derailleur and shifter work with the sram sx cassette?

  • @carlosmesa4885
    @carlosmesa4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the information, it is very useful. My case is having changed from 2x10 to 1x12. The chain line is not right, the crank set are from the old transmission, will it be necessary to change the connecting rods to correct the chain line?

  • @AlvaroQF
    @AlvaroQF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:30 Cassette changed from Sram to Shimano? MAGIC!!

    • @AlvaroQF
      @AlvaroQF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB haha, hmm the SunRace cassette looks like Shimano, nice! I didn’t notice the wheels, but now i can see that you changed from Schwalbe to Bontrager at the back. Easter eggs in videos? I like that!

  • @elliesworld4112
    @elliesworld4112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. I can't stand my SX. Ive had it on my last two bikes and will be my next upgrade. A very temperamental device to say the least.
    This will get replaced before my charger 2.1 upgrade. That's how much I hate the SX....

  • @720Tmoney
    @720Tmoney ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! Thanks for the info

  • @devourermastikator
    @devourermastikator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ! Very useful videos ! Thank you for sharing your experience. I have an ebike who came with Sx sram transmision and please give me an advice if it will be ok to buy a Gx asx wirless derailleur, keeping the sx 12 speeds casette, the chain ring and the X01 chain. After 7000km touring recebtly i changed the OEM chain with X01 but on the smalest 4 sprockets it skips sometimes. Maybe is from the cassette, maybe is from the chainring....i want to change the cassette and the chainring, maybe 7000km is to much for an mtb ebike and with this situation maybe i will change the SX derailleur with GX ASX wireless. What do you think ? Is a good ideea ? It will match all the components of the transmision ? Thank you for your help !

  • @samiamgrnegsnhamnonftercan2ham
    @samiamgrnegsnhamnonftercan2ham 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this!

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure!

  • @MrLazze69
    @MrLazze69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have some issues with the SX crank set. I cracked the first bottom bracket after 1500 km - got it replaced under warranty - and now it feels like I've cracked it again, 1900 km after replacing the original. So, obviously, I'm seriously considering upgrading at least that part.

    • @MrLazze69
      @MrLazze69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB I believe it's the Powerspline. The description says Sram Eagle Boost48

  • @edgarstudillo5649
    @edgarstudillo5649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My SX grupset lasted 1year and 4 months of heavy XC traning and racing, i replaced the shifter and derailleur with Shimano SLX and replaced the power spline SX Crank with Deore. Sram Cassette and chain still have life left, but when they wear out ill be replacing them for shimano Deore. Overall i enjoyed the Sram gruopset, its a shame that it doesnt last longer. If the new derailleur last long it could be a better option as a entre level groupset but i think Deore still has better reliability.

    • @chrismayne5320
      @chrismayne5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was trying to see if i could swap my 12 sx groupset for a 12 speed deore what bottom bracket did you use for this, thank you

    • @edgarstudillo5649
      @edgarstudillo5649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrismayne5320 Shimano SM-BB52

    • @chrismayne5320
      @chrismayne5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edgarstudillo5649 sorry for the 21 questions I literally just ordered hope wheels and shimano deore 12 speed today is the bottom bracket any good it’s basically the final piece of my puzzle i just dont want to order the wrong size

  • @mikethomson6864
    @mikethomson6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My bike came with GX and within the first month my derailer wouldn't shift properly.
    Absolute junk, all the pins were bent to crap and I hadn't even dropped the bike on the rear mech.
    Replaced it with an SLX derailleur only to find that the pull ratios were different.
    Once I got a matching XT shifter it's been working awesome ever since.
    I personally try to stay away from sram but some of their stuff is still decent.

  • @justinhorsley1978
    @justinhorsley1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, super informative. Believe i'm having issues with my SX derailleur and am leaning towards upgrading. One question though, how would one specifically diagnose the derailleur as the issue compared to other components in the drive train? More specifically, under tension and when backpedaling on the 11th gear, it will skip and readjust to the 12th gear. This has caused a near pants-shitting moment when I was pedaling hard when it skipped, almost causing me to lose control.
    I took it to a bike shop for basic tune up, chain replacement, and derailleur hanger replacement, but issue is still there.

    • @justinhorsley1978
      @justinhorsley1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB yeah strongly considering the shimano derailleur. Worth a shot considering the reputation of the SX. Thanks!

    • @andyfpt
      @andyfpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever upgrade your sx derailleur? I have the sx on my Stumpjumper and I'm thinking of going to the GX or even x01. I just find that the sx comes out adjustment easily and does not shift quick and snappy. 1 shop told me that GX wouldn't be noticeably better but I'm interested in hearing other opinions. Thanks

    • @justinhorsley1978
      @justinhorsley1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyfpt yes I did. It's worth upgrading I think. I'm glad I did, so far all my shifting issues have gone away.

    • @andyfpt
      @andyfpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinhorsley1978 hey great to hear and thank you. Did you just swap the derailleur to a GX or did you swap out other components as well.
      Thank you again!

    • @justinhorsley1978
      @justinhorsley1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyfpt just swapped the derailleur, left all other components the same except for shift cable and housing. Of course man, good luck!

  • @nikkoyoshida6935
    @nikkoyoshida6935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Sram 11-50t 12speed cassete compatible with a deore 12speed rd and shifter or even the chain? Is it compatible? Hope you answer my question thank you.💯

  • @AlenRi
    @AlenRi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've just bought Trek X-Caliber 8 2021 with Sram SX. Do I need XT Driver to replace rear derailleur to Sram GX or maybe to Shimano XT?

  • @mechdiff
    @mechdiff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had SX rear derailleur on my bike. There is no clutch which makes it a poor option for off road use. I recommend replacing if this comes on your bike.

  • @loooga18
    @loooga18 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have diamondback sync'r that I just
    bought this year 12/22 and it came with
    this bb with sram sx drivetrain. Just
    wondering if I replace the bb, do I need
    to replace the whole drive train? Or just
    the crank? What would you suggest
    should I go by with a better bb if I need to replace it?

    • @loooga18
      @loooga18 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB Thank you. Love the channel

  • @Anachkin_Adventures
    @Anachkin_Adventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! You're mentioning a possible upgrade of the rear derailleur by one from Shimano - Deore or SLX 12S RD. Just to be sure, you understand by that a replacement of the shifter too or do those RD's from Shimano work with Sram's SX shifter?

  • @sixtring73
    @sixtring73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thanks for the information here! I've been looking at upgrading my SX 12 speed cassette as it's all steel and feels quite heavy but the alleged weight is 615g and the Sunrace 12 speed cassette is 648g so actually heavier! Doesn't seem to add up, can you shed any light on this? Would be much appreciated!

    • @sixtring73
      @sixtring73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB Thanks man!

  • @MrYoutweet
    @MrYoutweet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had problem on my SX groupset with SX derailleur and I replaced him with SLX derailleur

    • @pedrovarela1635
      @pedrovarela1635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I currently have slx brakes on my bike and sx in drivetrain. I'd like to change the shifter and derailleur from sx to slx, and keep the rest(crank, chain, and cassete). Is everything compatible? What's is your experience so far?

  • @martinmbae2688
    @martinmbae2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I bought some used wheels which came with a NX casette which I later changed to Shimano because I had some shimano cranks and BB lying around. Now I wanted to try Sram and see how it would work with Shimano, and was wondering what's the difference between NX and SX cassette? Since SX is cheaper, doesn't it make sense to buy it if I don't mind the weight penalty?

  • @colonaustral
    @colonaustral 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, do you have the link of the article of chain wear 2:38 ?

  • @adamkleinert2698
    @adamkleinert2698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    has anyone upgraded to GX AXS on a SX group set? sounds like the SX derailleur is the weak point what would be a massive improvement. thanks!

  • @BH-cy9tb
    @BH-cy9tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok SX came on my 2021 trek rail ebike. The shifter and derailleur are very cheap. My bike has 900 miles and the SX derailleur broke in half while I was out on the trail. Oh I was expecting the derailleur hanger to be broken not the derailleur itself. And when I got home lucky I had already bought a new GX eagle 12 speed derailleur in anticipation of the SX breaking. The SX shifter I had to replace the cable and it got stuck so I had to take off top cover and shifter just fell apart in my hands. I found a GX shifter at very reasonable price on Amazon . Get at least GX and above.

    • @BH-cy9tb
      @BH-cy9tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB read the first line of my post. Lol.

  • @engibike
    @engibike ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Your videos are great. I have a bike with sram SX group. Rear wheel is 135 OLD. The Crankset use a SX with power spline and the plate IS 30T offset 6 mm. Rear chain líne is 43 mm and front is,49. It is a Big diference. What can I do

    • @engibike
      @engibike ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTBthe problems is the chain. The chain slips off the largest cog when I ride backpedal There is too much differece between the chain lines

  • @markjanco4613
    @markjanco4613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SX derailleur was terrible. Mine lasted less than a week before it went into the spokes. I replaced with Advent 9 speed parts and it works way better. I will sell the shifter and the cassette and probably never buy Sram again. Unfortunately the bike has the powerspline crankset so that will also be replaced when supply is better. Live and learn!

    • @markjanco4613
      @markjanco4613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB KInd of stupid for Sram to "introduce" themselves with such garbage!

    • @markjanco4613
      @markjanco4613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB Agreed. I really like your channel!

  • @eilbron
    @eilbron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a trek dual sport 2 and i wanted a 1x12 so i ended up getting:
    Nx cassette
    Gx derailleur
    Nx crankset
    Xx1 chain
    X01 shifter
    So far im happy with how things work. Would you recommend any other combinations?
    Maybe return the gx derailleur and get an X01 derailleur? 100$ difference. Will improve shifting? (Gx seems pretty smooth)

    • @eilbron
      @eilbron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB thanks for replying. I might just get the x01 to match it with the x01 shifter.

  • @rikbond1960
    @rikbond1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI, if you remember I asked why cycling backwards the chain went down from the 50...you said chainstay length ...yes, nx cogs , KMX 12 v chain, gx derailleur and gx shifter...I'm preparing a 27.5 instead of the 29wheel, and xd driver...I think the probelm should meet same defect but what you recommend as 12 v cassette ? gx ? sunrace or others? price/ quality...

    • @rikbond1960
      @rikbond1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB thanks... With this new combination instead of the nx cassette mounted on the 29 wheel, if 27.5 with new gx cassette the derailleur must be adjusted or the position remain the same?

  • @sabitbagirli7399
    @sabitbagirli7399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have heard many bad opinions about SRAM Eagle SX . I want to buy scott scale 970 2021 and it comes with SRAM Eagle SX. Is it that bad?

    • @sabitbagirli7399
      @sabitbagirli7399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB I wanted to buy Trek Marlin 8 2022 or Scott Scale 970. Both have the same system SRAM Eagle SX. What could you suggest for me at this segment?

  • @kevinborovsky3558
    @kevinborovsky3558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Side note the octane looks fantastic. Much has happened to that frame since last video.

  • @MrTrazz09
    @MrTrazz09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can we use the flat tops chain by sram? i think its xx1

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrTrazz09 nope

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u suggest adding a chain guide on these setups?

  • @zekefreak6082
    @zekefreak6082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone wants to buy my SX groupset and I’m planning to go for NX. Will it be straight upgrade from SX to NX?

  • @MaQuGo119
    @MaQuGo119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine came Full SX but with Truvative power spline, what are some dub with 34 chainring?

  • @holgaholic
    @holgaholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what model of sunrace did you change the cassette at 8:41 ?

  • @nikkoyoshida6935
    @nikkoyoshida6935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it compatible when i would mix match it with the shimano deore m6100 rd and shifter?

  • @mazditzo
    @mazditzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My opinion is if tight budget go for deore, unless you can afford x01 above

  • @arefin-rp8hy
    @arefin-rp8hy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I run SRAM NX 12 speed rarederailleur with SRAM SX 12 speed Shifter.
    Dose SRAM 12 speed NX or SX cassette are compitable with any other brand 12 Speed Hub.

  • @JOHN-uj4zg
    @JOHN-uj4zg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the powerspline version of the crank ok? Or is it bad?

  • @Dman90
    @Dman90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I get the shimano deore rear derailleur or the gx?

  • @lorenzobecks82tube
    @lorenzobecks82tube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a rockrder xc50 with a SRAM sx, but I can switch to a rockrider xc100 for 150 euro with SRAM NX (and a bit better fork). In your opinion is worth the money? Or you suggest to keep my bike until something broke (probably the derailleur) and then change only that parts?

    • @lorenzobecks82tube
      @lorenzobecks82tube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB actually I have a rock shock Judy the other bike have a manitou Markhor. But i was thinking (later) to use the 150 euro to change the derailleur and with bit of money more buy a slx breaking system (actually I have a tektro). Maybe is a better upgrade in this way?

    • @lorenzobecks82tube
      @lorenzobecks82tube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB you suggest to use the "Shimano SLX M7100" instead the sram nx derailleur?

  • @BIKE-PLUS
    @BIKE-PLUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job😃👍

  • @XCRiders
    @XCRiders ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SX 🙌🏼

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't tkknow about that...😏

  • @chatterbox91
    @chatterbox91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the largest Chainring you can use ?

  • @KibAgong
    @KibAgong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi..Thanks for the video. Now I’m using SX groupset with powerspline on my Specialized Chisel. Im planning to upgrade only my crankset to GX with DUB. Or maby should I just install BSA dub on my current Powerspline SX crank?

    • @KibAgong
      @KibAgong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see.. What is your sugestion? At first, I plan to upgrade my crankset to GX to reduce some weight and maby get better feel/quality...plus someone told me, DUB is better than power spline

    • @KibAgong
      @KibAgong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB if you only have 1 option to upgrade(crankset/rd/cassette) due to budget. To improve my performance in xc/xco style of riding, which one should I go first. Im sorry for this kind of questions. I couldn’t find any clear info on this

    • @KibAgong
      @KibAgong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB just to add on, I already got my GX shifter cz my SX shifter has broken.

  • @Sudhanshuvermaphotography
    @Sudhanshuvermaphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you should make a video on power meter available for such cranks!

  • @lazydrain
    @lazydrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got my SX. can you make a video on how to put it correctly especially for the DUB BB. Im not sure I put it correctly. lol

  • @nyreppin1
    @nyreppin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the power spline version with my Marlin 8 and just a few weeks into riding I'm already having issues with shifting. Not sure if it was the fault of the shop I bought it from or sram but it's pretty unfortunate.

  • @anthonyb924
    @anthonyb924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend GX derailleur and shifter or XT derailleur and shifter as an upgrade on SX?
    I have SX and am trying to decide.

    • @anthonyb924
      @anthonyb924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB ok so I’m guessing no massively noticeable difference?
      BTW just discovered your channel a few days ago, great content and very easy to follow and understand, nice one!

  • @coerce
    @coerce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the powerspline version of this one and would like to turn it into the dub version. I’m not a fan of the powerspline. Is there a way to reuse the powerspline cranks and convert them with the dub system?

    • @getstrongby4038
      @getstrongby4038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is it about the powerspline that is bad? How can you tell??
      I only ask because I have this but I don't know anything about bikes lol

    • @coerce
      @coerce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@getstrongby4038 eh it’s just cheap. Think of the bottom brackets that are on Walmart bikes. Heavy and tends to creak and not as smooth

  • @frakafrocka
    @frakafrocka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing vid. do you work in a shop? love your channel. thanks.

    • @frakafrocka
      @frakafrocka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveMTB awesome!