The Griekwastad Farm Murders
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- The end of the Rhodesian Bush War brought hopes for Zimbabwe’s future, but farm conflicts across Southern Africa revealed tensions beneath. Explore the violence, resilience, and the fight for survival.
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@The Casual Criminalist you will be happy to know that that he was denied parole on September 6 2024.
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🎉 Thank you for updatimg this info. As a South Afrcan, living near the White Cross monument (Witkruis Monument) in Limpopo, my heart breakes when I see all the crosses, and 1:06:43 new crosses been added each year on 21 September. There are a few clips about it on TH-cam and Google. I too have family and friends represented there. It would make a powerful script by Emma or any objective South African script writer.
Keep up the hard work, we love unbias reporting of how thongs go around the globe.
Hell yeah🎉❤😊
That sucks!
I knew he was guilty when the farmer said the dogs wouldn’t stop barking while they were searching the crime scene and Don said he didn’t hear the dogs barking at all during the happening of the crime.
Agreed. Also, the investigation sounds terrible, and the lawyers should have fought more for him, but yes, the thing with the dogs is big. If outsiders came in and hurt the family, especially because they're farm dogs, the outsiders would have had to hurt the dogs to be able to get away with the crime, I'm sure of it.
The dogs where alive, if I was the discovering officer that would have me even more suspicious.
There was a paragraph earlier detailing why Farm Attackers take the dogs out first....
That’s what I thought!! It would instantly make you question why the dogs didn’t sound an alarm
And the fact that the dogs wouldn't shut up when they were investigating the farm...
Came for the murders.left with so much pegging knowledge. Thank you Simon
"Tent pegging knowledge"
I'm only a few minutes in, how does this end with pegging? Haha
Lol right
South Africans regularly have to send their kids to different towns for better schools, than what a really small town like Griekwastad would probably be able to offer. Hence boarding school.
Yup. I went to boarding school at age 7....
Was going to say same. Especially since the school is probably pretty far. But yeah, the education factor, if you could, you would.
All "south africans?" The Real one? Meaning the Indigenous "south africans?"
They didn't name themselves or their country.
@@missladyanonymityYes there is often too few primary schools & no high schools in this small rural communities/ towns.
@@missladyanonymitycalm down no one is talking about it now
Although the s.a. evidence was graphic and hard to hear about a girl whose ending was tragic enough already, I really appreciate this inclusion in the script. I never knew exactly how s.a. could forensically be discerned from consensual intercourse. Now I'm thinking, not only should I know that, but everybody should. We should know what victims went through and we should know why the perpetrator(s) can't get away with saying it was consensual.
Thank you Emma.
Honestly unless it’s violent I don’t think you’d be able to forensically tell. I think it’s probably mostly an assumption based off context clues. 🤔
That poor girl
@@evelynvslife The testimony described in detail how non-consent MAKES it violent (because of the lack of lubrication, it is traumatic to the tissues).
@@audreymuzingo933 not all SAs are violent. I’d go so far as to say MOST probably aren’t.
@@evelynvslife I'm curious why you would "go so far" as to say that. Based on what?
Aw man the fact that the little sister fought back so hard and tried to care to her dying parent to finally collapsing close to her mother for confort hit hard... I wish i would believe in heaven because she fucking deserves it 😥
and the mfer raped her in the last 24h of her young life! i couldn't believe at the end, some family members caring about him having some money after prison given his despicable crimes!
It really is devastating, that poor little girl :(
She never deserved any of what she got but bloody hell, she was an amazing person
Marthella was made of much stronger stuff than the little shit who ended her. He took her future away from her, so he should never be released.
Have to say, Emma. While the crimes you present to Simon are some of the more grim variety. His pronunciations of our town names or even the people always makes me giggle a bit. Really helps to bring a little levity to a dark script. Love your work. All of you. Writers, Editors and naturally Simon too
Koot-zay... 🤣
But, he Did nail the word "bakkie"...
"Orangie" meisieskool slayed me 😂
@tarrynharbour2907 He did try...
But as somebody from Bloem it was. An inventive pronunciation shall we say 😂
MO-foo-keng instead of Mfookeng made me blink because it's so exotic, until I read it and returned to South Africa lmao
@@diewaarheid9431there should be a glossary for these things in the video. I was trying to figure out why different brands made a vehicle with the same name
Thank you Emma, love all the Southern African representation. Thanks to The Casual Criminalist for offering the complex and interesting cases from our beautiful complicated continent.
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They let him wash away evidence, wow. Yeah, I’m leaning toward the boy.
If he took the bloody shirt off, how did the shirt that he wore to the police station become bloody? It makes no sense.
It's dubious but SataFrika mentions are always a fun bit
A Beignet, “ben-yay”, is like a sweet bun/ doughnut, popular in french speaking places like New Orleans.
I’ve learned a lot from Simon’s videos, and it’s nice to think he can learn a tidbit from me 😊
I accidentally tried beignets for the first time at Cafe du Monde in the French Quarter at seventeen, when I happened to be in New Orleans to visit Loyola New Orleans. I didn't even know what they were prior to that experience, and then I was ruined forever 😂😂😂
Not really, there are a few places that make good ones, but that will always hold a special place in my heart. ❤
I was born and raised an hour outside of New Orleans so hearing him say Ben-yets gave me a visceral reaction 😂
Vetkoek can be sweet or savory. It is commonly filled with curried minced beef before being deep fried.
@@victoriaeads6126 Cafe Du Monde is famous for them, I ate their once too, and they're great.
Where did he say that he learned that from you?
My mother grew up in Tanzania in the 1950’s and she said her dad had a gun in the drawer of his desk at home, not to defend their property if anyone came to attack, but a bullet for each member of the family. It was preferable for him to take out his wife, kids and himself rather than experience what happened if they were captured.
I have to ask, why did he choose to raise a family in a place so exposed to such danger?
@@toastercatxOften takes money and privilege to be able to move
@@marieseaman7855It's very hard for some people to understand this.
My question is why was he so fatalistic to believe his family could not win the gunfight? If it's not possible to get your family out of their situation in any way, then you are not trying hard enough or are simply ok with your family being killed in terrible ways. If I lived on a farm that I was unwilling to part with, even though there were marauding killers bent on robbing everything my family has worth anything, to include our lives, then I would own more than one pistol with six bullets. I would have a two story stone or block home with that had a courtyard enclosed by a 10 foot tall block wall and with no windows facing outwards in which you could enter. The top of the wall and along the outside border of the roof would be covered by glass shards created by using concrete to secure large wine bottles to the entire top of the wall and border of the roof then be broken about four inches from the bottom. It would also have iron gates only big enough to allow a single car to pass through and only opened outward due to concrete barriers. This would give me plenty of time, even if I was deep in sleep, to gather my weapons and respond to any threats. I would not leave my gun in a drawer but would go everywhere on my property fully armed and ready for a gunfight, even if would be attackers only had knives.
My wife and children would be armed on my property at all times and we would conduct live fire training weekly and dry fire exercises daily.
Nothing can possibly completely safe as anything I can do, someone can figure out how to defeat.
The whole exercise is not to stop a very determined enemy. It is to fulfill the old adage...you don't have to out run/swim the bear/shark... you only have to out run/swim your buddies.
Making your farm or property a hardened target makes it not worth the trouble involved if there are easier targets.
@@robertmosher7418 You ought to work on both your empathy and your ignorance.
I love that Simon has a Saffa writer. Just repeatedly dropping "bakkie" in there and making him pronounce some fun words and names😂
I never thought this case would make it to Casual Criminalist. The one aunt of the two kids is my good friend's stepmother, her little brother is their cousin, so while it had no impact on me personally, it impacted the family of a good friend of mine. Feels trippy.
Remember, “being seen by police standing over the body holding the murder weapon” is technically circumstantial evidence. You absolutely can convict on circumstantial alone as long as it’s substantial enough as to leave no reasonable doubt.
To be fair, just because your seen by the police standing over the body holding the murder weapon doesn't mean that you did it. That being said it's certainly most likely and you're going to need a heck of a lawyer or a colossal failure from the prosecution to convince of reasonable doubt.
Technically, fingerprint and DNA are circumstantial evidence. Most is. It is a preponderance of circumstantial evidence that eventually becomes "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. "
@@darkamora5123circumstantial just means there’s no way to directly link the suspect to the scene of a crime. Yes DNA and fingerprints can be in this context circumstantial if they weren’t deposited at the time of the crime. But it is generally easy to pinpoint when a trace is deposited by determining the sequence of events. Like a fingerprint got on a door handle two days before the crime during a visit etc, that person would be ruled out. Generally circumstantial will refer to something that can’t be proven to be a link, like a suspect went for a ‘walk’ alone around the time of the crime with enough time to get there and back, but left no traces to directly link them to the crime scene.
Depending on the type of DNA deposit it can be circumstantial, like a semen deposit on underwear that happened before the crime, say hours before, but those can usually be cleared by an alibi. But something like skin cells under fingernails or blood DNA of the suspect on the victim or vice versa, those, those are not so circumstantial.
Immediate thought with this is why would some random killers drop valuable firearms covered with evidence at the scene instead of taking them with them? Guns are expensive items in South Africa, this alone makes no sense at all.
Irish person here. Who grew up a farm. Murder in not unheard of.but is uncommon.
But what happened to my family & sadly happened to way to many family's in Ireland.
I know of two other children within eight years in my county of children dieing from farm accidents. My brother at two years old snuk out and was hit by a tractor. Friend of my mothers son fell from bails of straw. Farmers out. Be safe and keep your children safe 🙏
Also my only south African friends uncal was murdered home robbery. And she in not even white. So crime seems to be constant over there/. I hope for better because I have herd it is a beautiful country with beautiful people.
Accidents and “accidents” are too common in Australia too. I’m sorry about your brother, I can’t imagine how traumatic that must have been for everyone involved. Sending you love and healing from Australia
@@ook428I’d love to visit both Ireland and South Africa- everyone I’ve ever had contact with from both countries have been beautiful people, inside and out!!
@@Dani-Louisecan say the same. Had friends from both countries, both living in germany. Was a rough time in my life, and with both of them i always knew i had a safe place to stay. Whenever i came to visit they made sure food was already on the table by the time i arrived, and a bed prepared in case i needed to stay overnight. Absolutely lovely people, i still miss them dearly. Eoin went back to ireland and we lost contact over the years, and Lars sadly had a car accident he didn't survive... some of the best friends a man could wish for.
Farming accidents kill so many I have a relative who was killed by a falling tractor and another who was killed when his grain silo broke open and he was smothered by a tidal wave of grain. Farming is incredibly dangerous....and we don't even discuss the fatal events with cows...
32:30 even if he killed his family, I think it is so disrespectful to act like paparazzi at a funeral. The deceased deserve respect even if you can’t spare any for their potential murderer. Imagine being one of their loved ones. Shameful
The way Simon pronounces the Afrikaans names 😂 Thank you for featuring more South African cases.
We have to give him points for at least getting "bakkie" correct :grinning_squinting_face:
Farm attacks in RSA is STILL a major issue.
Yes...please remember regular attacks are also a thing.
Murders in general are a big thing in SA.
Farm attacks sounds like a virus or something
It's genocide
So a child’s friend has been charged with their entire families murder and you are okay with him living in your house?!!! Omg!!!
Right? And his family is crazy too, besides the grandma.
It can be REALLY hard to believe that someone you know and care for has done something this horrendous.
You should have seen how the girls in our school were adamant to defend Don. They simply refused to accept it
@@ladygrndr9424yeah. People are really good at denying reality...
My collegue is his cousin. The family is split in 2 because of it half think he is innocent the other half guilty. It's crazy that he will be able to get all that money from his grandparents & will profit from his crime & get the money & farm he so desperately wanted.
Thanks Emma! Feels less like a *casual* criminalist with current events, with such unclear perpetrators at the top. Thanks for bringing this to a general audience, really lovely work
Henrietta is so relatable. This was a town of 6500. I live outside a farming town in Alabama that has 8800. So many people like to poke their noses in other people's business. 🤣
I grew up in a town of 750. Lol people love to be nosy.
Real lmao in South Africa we really be like that in any town, but the small towns we're straight up asking for context and details, minding everyone's business
Farming town of
It is shocking politicians and people in South Africa can look at Zimbabwe and say yeah, I want to emulate those policies and methods because everything turned out so awesome there.
Because they don’t know. They think if they just “get everything” they’ll HAVE everything. It’s not as easy as it looks. You can’t just get land and not have ANY idea what to do with it.🤷♀️ You can’t just kick out the “evil foreigners” and take their shops if you have NO idea how to get supplies, etc. no wonder bread was so expensive. They don’t HAVE any. doughnuts to dollars the PRESIDENT is sitting pretty, though.
1:01:11 You guys should write an episode on the Richthofen case in Brazil, the girl kills her parents and brother, is allowed to get out of prison on holidays such as mother's day and father's day and the living relatives are fighting hard to keep her away from the money, which she could possibly inherit.
An old saying comes to mind after listening to this story. "Criminals aren't the sharpest people in the world." As soon as the position of the victims was revealed, I knew right away it was the kid. Greed seems to be the motivation that truly inspires most people to commit stupid things.
His parents loved the daughter more and he raped his sister... I think to keep her quiet and prevent the crime from coming out he killed them all
Simon is not immune to the power of the leg bounce!!🙌
21:34 I was nearly the same demeanor after coming home and hearing my father shoot himself and then finding him. Sometimes when you have shock like that. All you're looking for is distractions because the more you're interacting with the real world at that point means that this actually happened and that's the last thing you want.
I've never experienced anything that traumatic, but when my sister learned that her sister (same dad for them, same mum for us) had had stillbirth after my sister made a baby blanket, she did the same thing. She began to talk about other things, she wanted to talk to me about nicer things and she began to gather new conversation topics just to not have to focus on it.
She has dealt with it now, but I could totally see someone disconnecting in that manner after finding their dead family member(s), especially if they are now "alone".
My brother also began drinking when his sister (same mum for them, same dad for us) committed. I'm not sure if he is alright now, but he has settled in the way you can, settle after that happening. Right when we learned, he was completely shut off and went to see his mum and little brother and I'm sure it was very hard to try to understand.
Grief does strange things, grief and shock only does stranger things.
(not to take over your comment, just wanted to share what I have seen)
When i was super young I thought it was so bizarre/sad/pessimistic that family members were the first to be viewed as suspects for murders/crimes because it just seemed like such a wild thing to assume. Ahhh to go back to those simpler, childish days.
I think it is great. It speaks of a secure childhood.
1:46 As a Zimbabwean myself, Inflation is still very much going on. And the first Zimbabwean president was Canaan Banana, however, he has effectively been written out of history for some reason
I'm so glad you said this! I met him as a child and totally thought it never happened cause I couldn't find any info on him other than the photo of us together with my grand the day we met each other. He was such a kind man.
I grew up in Zimbabwe. Such a beautiful country with amazing people. I miss it so much.
5:30 - Chapter 1 - The narrow espace on naauwhoek
13:00 - Chapter 2 - The steenkamp family
17:15 - Chapter 3 - Farmer, wife & daughter killed
30:00 - Chapter 4 - The boy who lived
36:40 - Chapter 5 - The bail hearing
41:20 - Chapter 6 - The state vs D.D
51:30 - Chapter 7 - 13 minutes
55:25 - Chapter 8 - The weight of circumstantial evidence
1:01:20 - Chapter 9 - The bloody hands principle
1:05:30 - Dismembered appendices
As a fencer, your mistake Simon had me in stiches
bonus for making the same mistake with two similar sports 😂
In the US, the Supreme Court actually ruled that if a minor commits a crime before they turn 18 because they know they won’t be punished as strictly, the court can rule to charge them as an adult
Interestingly, this case doesn't take place in the US
Thank you Emma and Simon! I love the teams work and get a flush of dopamine when you folks upload.
21:58 Everyone processes grief differently. Also he's had a fair bit of time to calm himself &/or for his mind to start spiraling with questions about his future.
THIS. Like my guy was 15 and had just lost everyone.. His brain was obviously not working right.
To be fair when my grandfather passed from complications of an accident (the hospital missed a massive internal bleed) I was pissed, I took a couple days off of work before the weekend and got ripped drunk and stayed in a hotel room for a few days. The next week I went to work and carried on like nothing happened but I'm not a teenager, I'm within a few months of factboys age and I've been combat deployed, my point being is sometimes we don't show loss amd even though we're falling apart inside, the show must go on.
Did you go out partying/bar hopping with your bros, or did you get drunk at the bar. Those are two different things. It's understandable to try and numb the pain but the pain is still there.
Thank you Simon and Emma!
A depressing story but brilliantly written and told (don't want to say "executed".
Your Afrikaans/Dutch is hilarious, Simon. But I do like your enthusiasm 😂
Simon being so down to build a fence but finding out he gets to swing a sword instead is priceless. Golden memory brethren thank you for sharing 😂🫱🏻🫲🏿
I don't think I've ever seen Simon as uncomfortable as when he was describing the events. This has to take a toll to read through... This was a rough one.
You send children to boarding school because you stay on a farm with a small town that probably don't have a high school. Small towns in rural areas generally only have a primary school.
I confused this case with the van Breda case around a similar time. Also the son killing his family and faking is own injuries. That was also terrible
I've literally just listened to this case on another channel. And yes there are startling similarities.
My school friend emigrated to Rhodesia with her family, the were well off, a few years later the all left Zimbabwe to return to the UK with just the clothes in their back😮
Stolen by the non whites no doubt
For anyone who doesn't know what a "bucky" is, it's spelled bakkie, and it's the same thing as a "ute". 😆
(It's a small pickup truck.)
I only know what a bakkie or a Ute is because I own a Pontiac G8 which happens to be a Holden and we wished we would have gotten the Ute version here in the states.
Ute doesn't help much as we don't use any of these terms in the UK 😂
My SA friend had to explain bakkie to me a few weeks ago 😂
I wasn't familiar with bakkie, but as I consume a lot of UK content I was familiar with ute.
1:06:45 lol... pegging competitions... sounds so much worse when you don't say tent before.
How so?
Why? They use those really small, individual tents, so it's a challenge in there... I may misunderstand what tent pegging is.
@@LethalG1523 "pegging" has other meanings.
@@notshardain those being?
Yes it does 😂. I see you are a person of culture 😂
Murder is wrong but a few groups seem like it's a bad idea to target. Sewage and water treatment, power and gas, farmers, medical personnel, fire and rescue... You know, the people you need to live.
Thank you for including sewage and water treatment workers.
Ja, some here (in South Africa) have yet to accept this. We have a couple of places where emergency services need to wait for a police escort to enter because otherwise the risk to them is too high.
@@sewgood568 Any group that satisfies the 2 lowest levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs should be exempt by default.
I drive through Griekwastad everytime I head back home from University, and everytime, without fail, I get a shiver down my spine.
Edit: Having gotten through a bit of the video, I feel like as a local, not just to the relative area, but as a farmer's son myself, I can give a lot of context to some of the points, including why being able to handle a 4x4 vehicle as a farmer is extremely important xD
Jy gaan nie n springbok uit die veld gaan haal met n VW golf nie is al wat ek gaan sê. Nie in daai wereld nie.
@mctbaggins2084 😂😂
I love how many cases are in South Africa.... not that I love that South Africa has a ton of this. But I have a friend over there and it's the perfect excuse to send her another Cas Crim video!
She's loving them. =D
Thanks For this emma! Love your scripts! Thanks For all your hardwork too simon
I dont think that Don not breaking down that night is nesseeserally damning because shock like that can basicslly paralize you, but when combined with everything else....yeahhhh, not a good look.
Simon, you are not the only one who was confused with the layout and timeline in this story.. I thought I was being a smooth brain since I was having following the story. 😅
Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) used to be called the bread basket of Africa because their agricultural industry was so great.
Emma... That one hit a little close to home. My heart is in the Kalahari even though my butt lives in Pretoria.
My grandfather had to give up his land in Keimoes due to safety concerns. We all grew up in Upington, Postmasburg and the surrounding military bases and as our parents ranked up in the military we moved to Cape Town and Pretoria, leaving our grandparents far away from the close family.
Same. Like I said, I don't think that there's a farming family out there that hasn't been affected by farm attacks. We were lucky - some of our cattle were stolen, and one of our dogs were poisoned, but that's it. I also live in Pretoria now, but my parents and brother still live and work on the farm
Upington lol hell on earth 45 degrees Celsius plus 😅
I get way too happy about these notifications... but now I have an excellent background while I affix leaves to my girlfriend's gown for the fantasy themed ball , which Simon would *definitely* find fascinating. Thanks for the fantastic writing and narration, you absolute legends!
Edit: oof, this one got so grim. When Simon said "Don't like this", I felt that.
Amen to that. I swear some days I only check my notifications for CasCrim...and if it's not, swipe!
I stumbled onto The Casual Criminalist while working on my own wedding dress. I finished the embroidery on it while binge-watching CasCrim and DtU....exactly 3 years ago now 😎
I got one of my old coworkers hooked on this when they changed jobs. They love the channel and even others Simon host's.
@@thegreatpugtato1823I watch most of Simon's other channels - they're phenomenal.
relatable - on the first part at least! wholesome and sweet on the second :)
I do see where this is going. But, really, if you're covered in blood, no matter the situation, do you not want to wash that off? Least suspicious thing in the story
14:50 I’m Australian and I’ve never heard of tent pegging before. I even grew up around horses and thought I at least knew most of the equestrian events by name. I think saying it’s ‘popular’ here is something of an overstatement. 😂
Rushed to the comments to say the same thing 😂 but I’m in Sydney and I reckon this would be a country thing. Has rural Qld vibes
Australian Tentpegging Association .. pretty much in all Australian mainland states (maybe not so much in WA and NT) and yes rural.
Me too, and I live in a horsey part of rural Victoria.
I gotta admit, I was concerned from the moment they mentioned that the gate was still shut, and that no one had already attacked the workers. Wouldn't you get rid of the large number of witnesses who could easily overhear shooting and/or screaming and flee to spread word? And what murderous thieves are so polite as to close the gate behind themselves? But the truth was even darker than I'd expected. Those poor people.
Thanks!
Poor meerkats 😢 52:31
yeah, the killer was the kid that tortured animals in his chieldhood, who would have thought.
I have to disagree. Simple greed doesn't cause you to torture and mutilate perfect strangers.
Greed can drive anger, and anger can turn to wanton cruelty.
@@chunkofchunksYoda drivel.
Well, maybe not you… 😉
I dunno… it could maybe, if you’re already sort of psychopathic
More than simple greed for sure. You have to be able to see a human being as something you can pull apart for material and emotional gain.
Top reading and info, love fact boy and team 💙
Awesome choice, Emma. Neat to see this one pop-up that I recognise and am familiar with. It is an interesting case (if not a bit tragic and brutal).
One omission I feel, is that on the day if the murder, this wasn't the first occurrence of sexual assault/attempted sexual attempt with the sister (as per the court records). It puts things into a whole other perspective (in my opinion), when you realise this had happened already once before.. That this wasn't just a single-time, spur of the moment thing. This would further increase the motive for Don to hide his offending considering that.
The court documents does mention the fact that Marthella wasn't a virgin, and that there might have been more than one sexual assault, but since they couldn't definitely say when she'd had sex, I didn't think it was necessary to include it
@emmafreylink Thanks a lot for your reply, Emma. I really enjoy your writing and have re-watched many of your scripts on both CasCrim and DTU (often multiple times) 🙂
That is a fair reason. If it truly is the case, it makes me think of Don as an even more heinous individual. In my personal opinion, anyway 🙂
Emma you beauty!👏👏👏👏 well written as always
Thanks Emma and Simon 😊 has always
Didn't expect this story to get even darker halfway through, but here we are.
34:33 Hansie Cronje was infamous for a match fixing scandal when he was the captain of the South African Cricket team. A commission was set up to investigate and he was banned for life from the sport. Such a shame coz he was a really good leader and player who fell for the temptations of extra money.
Well done, Emma! As always, excellent presentation, Simon.
So instead of facing justice for just s3ku4l assault against his sister, he chose to murder his family and have longer prison sentence.
Its a grim story tbh
Why did you censor 'sexual' like that?
The dogs barked the hole time the cops were there. But he didn't hear the dogs. Changed shirts before he left the house and the clean shirt had her blood on it two. The workers didn't see anything or any one go down the road being at the start of the drive.
Simon! I love listening to your readings. A phrase that goes through my head constantly is, "god damn, god damn!" Thank you for casual readings ❤
Just to say something about the sugar water, and why it could have been a thing here.
Its a common house hold remedy for shock.
She saw a panicking kid covered in blood and probably thought it would help.
7:30 I was thinking exactly the same as Simon as soon as I heard his arms were covered in blood, then x10 when he’s like ‘…and here’s the guns’.
16:01 How can a fourteen year old be ‘a local beauty’? That’s just a bit creepy.
3 uploads in under a week
Keep it up 😂
I think “only confirmed” at 39:00 doesn’t mean what Simon took it as. It means “it did nothing other than confirm” as in it didn’t disprove that it was him, it only confirmed it.
Always interesting to see what channels Simon pops up in
I wish I could afford to join the patron of every one of Simon's writers for this channel, but I'm broke af. I hope Simon pays y'all well!
@3:55 I disagree that greed is to be blamed for these crimes. If how these people were murdered and mutilated could make you exclaim in horrified shock, it's probably not a standard case of thievery 😮
Hey Simon! Have you ever thought about creating a channel where you read short stories-maybe horror, fiction, or fantasy?
I love listening to your videos while I work, and your delivery is so engaging. You really bring the scripts to life!
I’m sure this comment section will be reasonable and considerate
Most of Simon's channels are, no?
Hi simon!
Im a long time viewer of a couple of your channels!
Just wanted to get some feedback, in the last weeks i keep scrolling past your videos, because i dont recognize the thumbnail as one of your videos! I dont know if something changed recently, but i used to immediately know its one of your videos.
Love the content, thank you so much for all the work you do
Cheers from Germany! ❤
i'd be interested to see y'all cover the 1998 disappearance of dorien thomas in amarillo, texas. it occasionally gets covered locally, but mostly just on social media. it'd be nice to give his case more exposure. he's still missing to this day.
Immaculate timing as always Simon.
I started watching a true crime TH-camr who is from South Africa. She mentioned this incident and I was able to watch the movie online. It's worth the watch. She had only mentioned it as part of South African crime lore, so I didn't know the details. I don't think Simon mentioned it, but in the movie, the brother and sister had had sex a previous time, but she didn't want to do it anymore. When he wouldn't stop his advances, she threatened to tell their father, and it went downhill from there. I think it provides a good look at South African society for those of us who know little about it.
Way he himself the source of that claim, because it isn't uncommon for abusers to falsely claim a consensual relationship before or after the incident in question.
@@vorynrosethorn903for real, and she’s what, 14? I highly doubt a 14 year old could really consent with whatever rudimentary understanding of sex one would have.
I'm interested in english speaking youtubers from Africa, would you mind naming the channel you mentioned? Please?😊
We are well fed recently!
Jayy! We're finally talking about the farm murders!
1979...back in the day....ugh I'm just going to listen and feel old af 😅
The number of times ive heard "tent pegging" is just bonkers...
This hits close to home.. since I am a South African. I've had friends and family attached on their farms. Heard my fair share of horrifically gruesome things done to babies, children and elderly. It in the news on the daily.
Another grim reminder of why gun safety is so important - if the son didn't have unsupervised access to guns, this whole thing could have gone down very differently. It's "funny" to see this issue being a thing outside of the US - living in Portugal, I can't imagine a world in which children (or anyone other than the legal owner) should ever have unsupervised access to guns... I get that each region has its own traditions, especially surrounding hunting, but surely in 2024 we can all agree on this much, right?
The nra (national rifle association) in America runs propaganda campaigns constantly, making it a political thing. Not a logic thing. So even tho I wish you were right, unfortunately there are many people here that would disagree.
A funny side note is that Russia is one of, if not THE biggest contributor to the nra. Making their pro killing Americans stance basically a government subversion tactic. Yet it's self proclaimed patriots that are most pro gun... the irony is palpable.
This story breaks my heart.
Really interesting to hear a South African case. I live here in SA and I didn't know all the details.
When these pop up I have to weigh whether to listen NOW or to save it for when I can't sleep. Listening now, so I'll hate myself later when I have to listen to something else.
Just listen again, especially if you're going to sleep, wont miss anything 😅
@@liliespetals19that's what I do, or I watch it while falling asleep, then watch it again the next morning when I'm actually awake 😂
I saved it to watch later but came back 😅
I watch it awake the first time, and a second time if I'm trying to fall asleep!
The balance between interesting enough to keep my brain engaged, but boring (as in I've heard it before) enough to let me fall asleep when the hyperactive part of the brain is busy listening to fact boi is imperative!
Didn't that start a major famine in Zimbabwe?
Not quite a famine, but it came pretty damn close.
Who'd have thought that removing the experienced agricultural practitioners would do such a thing? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!
Fellow horse people, help me figure out what 2 horse breeds Simon utterly butchered here:
16:18 "....on her beloved 'Le-pan-zuh / Bo-pid' mix."
I'm guessing maybe Lipizzaner for the first one, but the second???
Boerperd. It's a South African breed
Hello fellow horse person. I was stumped on the second one as well until I found the South African Boerperd breed. I'd never heard of it.
@@montstergirl2377 HOLY SH, that totally checks out. THANK YOU! My ADHD never would have let this go, ha.
@@audreymuzingo933 HAHA it was exactly my ADHD that took over and all of a sudden I'm looking through alphabetical lists of horse breeds. I'm not going to admit how much time I lost on this ...
@@montstergirl2377 Sounds like we'd be great friends ..... who'd never get anything done together. (nless you count solving trivial mysteries I guess). 😆
Love the show❤️❤️❤️
For those who don't know, a bakkie is a ute/pick up truck in south african slang.
Ooh. Only been up 21 minutes. By far the fastest I've had a new cas-crim delivered.
I once knew a girl who grew up in Rhodesia, her family were 'white farmers'. Not rich, but well respected employers in their local community until Mugabe's thugs chased them out of the country - a very common story for those not outright murdered. The 'blacks' who divided up her parent's land didn't have the first clue about farming and spent much of their time hiding from bandits and Mugabe's thugs. So the farm became entirely wild and was abandoned. The same the whole country over; mass starvation, lawlessness, rape, murder... The rest is history.
The moral is of course to beware of 'revolutionaries' and 'ideological reformers'. At very best they don't know what they are doing and will screw things up far worse than they started, at worst their weasel words are no more than a cover for their own nefarious ambitions.
She was full of stories as a girl in that once beautiful country, such as going snake hunting with the local boys on Sundays. Then it all just stopped. One day a bunch of Mugabe's thugs came to the farm to say the government was repossessing the property for 'redistribution to real Zimbabweans' and they were to get out immediately. The elders of the local villages tried to explain they had no complaints with her family and they didn't know how to run the farm in their absence, but it fell on deaf ears.
She said there was a long and tearful couple of days while her family hurriedly packed and everyone said their goodbyes while her father tried to explain as much as he could to his workmen - he might have well have not bothered as the farm workmen weren't allowed to stay because they were 'under suspicion for working with the whites' and wouldn't be allowed to stay either!
Also her family left with almost nothing as when it came time to leave Mugabe's thugs had evidently allowed them to pack so it would be easier for them to carry off their possessions! The plan was to kill them all and take everything of value, but the local villagers actually stood between her family and Mugabe's gunmen then smuggled them out.
Thankfully Mugabe is finally dead, and while the terrible harm that was done can't be undone I sincerely hope the remaining people of Zimbabwe can finally look to a better future.
you are literally defending colonialism here what the hell is wrong with you
What a fucking freak you are defend colonialism by saying “well they don’t know what to do with the land”. No they don’t know how to produce bc their society isn’t structured around this bullshit ideal of infinite growth and productivity. You and people like you are what is wrong with the world and you sicken me
^...and there's a perfect example of ideological thinking destroying morality. Some horrible things were done under colonial rule, but that does not make everything associated with colonialism de facto bad. Without the British occupation, India would still be engaging in the ritual killing of widows... and they'd be getting around on horses and carts.
During the colonial period and under Ian Smith's Rhodesian government, numerous crimes were committed, particularly against the black majority population. These crimes include murder, arrests, and torture, among other forms of repression and violence. Here is a list detailing some of the significant crimes committed by colonial powers and the Rhodesian government:
Colonial Era Crimes
Land Dispossession:
The Land Apportionment Act (1930) forcibly removed black Africans from fertile lands to make way for white settlers, leading to widespread displacement and loss of livelihood for the indigenous population.
Forced Labor:
Black Africans were often subjected to forced labor, with harsh working conditions and little to no pay, under various colonial policies and practices.
Smith's Rhodesian Government Crimes
Extrajudicial Killings:
The Rhodesian security forces, including the military and police, were involved in the extrajudicial killing of suspected guerrillas and civilians. This included operations such as the "Gukurahundi" campaign, which resulted in the massacre of thousands of Ndebele people suspected of supporting ZAPU.
Mass Arrests and Detentions:
Thousands of black Africans were arrested and detained without trial under the Emergency Powers Act and Law and Order (Maintenance) Act. Detention camps were notorious for their inhumane conditions and treatment of detainees.
Torture:
Detainees and suspected guerrillas were subjected to severe torture, including beatings, electric shocks, and other forms of physical and psychological abuse. The use of torture was widespread in attempts to extract information and suppress resistance.
Arbitrary Executions:
Suspected guerrillas and supporters were often executed without fair trial procedures. Summary executions were common, especially during military operations in rural areas.
Destruction of Property:
The Rhodesian security forces frequently destroyed property, including homes and villages, suspected of harboring or supporting guerrilla fighters. This tactic aimed to undermine the support base of the nationalist movements.
Use of Chemical and Biological Warfare:
There is evidence that the Rhodesian government used chemical and biological agents to contaminate water sources and food supplies used by guerrillas and rural populations.
Operation "Dingo":
A significant military operation where Rhodesian forces attacked guerrilla bases in Mozambique, resulting in high civilian casualties and widespread destruction.
Suppression of Civil Liberties:
The government imposed strict censorship, banned political parties, and curtailed freedoms of speech, assembly, and association, effectively silencing opposition and maintaining control over the population.
Crimes Against Specific Groups
Targeting of Political Activists:
Prominent political activists, including members of ZAPU and ZANU, were targeted for arrest, torture, and assassination. Leaders such as Herbert Chitepo and Joshua Nkomo faced severe persecution.
Civilian Massacres:
Numerous civilian massacres occurred, with the Elim Mission Massacre (1978) being one of the most notable, where Rhodesian forces killed missionaries and children suspected of aiding guerrillas.
Repression in Tribal Trust Lands:
Inhabitants of the Tribal Trust Lands (areas designated for black Africans) faced severe repression, including forced relocations, destruction of crops, and restrictions on movement.
@@nbdjz1058They're giving a personal account of what happened. Sorry it doesn't line up with your beliefs but history generally doesn't care about your feelings.
I'd love to hear a longer form version of the DC Sniper case here on Casual Criminalist
Dont they have one? I think its a couple hrs long
@clark2491 no, he has a 30 minute brief look on his Into The Darkness channel but never a real look.
@Red_Oliver i must have watched it somewhere else.
13:53 pegging is a taboo word in the western world 🥴
Shout out to Emma from another South African🇿🇦🇿🇦
Hoezit!
Thank you!