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The Terminator - Renegade Cut

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  • An analysis of The Terminator and how it relates to Jesus Christ.
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  • @bgalloway7199
    @bgalloway7199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I noticed you did not reference Rise of the Machines.... one of the lesser known books of the bible

  • @d3nv1
    @d3nv1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow - all these years watching the Terminator films and never picked-up on this. I feel kinda dumb now, since you make it so clear !

  • @bordaz1
    @bordaz1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    just like to say i've always appreciated your balanced and thoughtful analyses of the themes of these films. Keep up the good work

  • @Onmysheet
    @Onmysheet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1:57 The way the terminator moves is still scary today.

  • @twelfthknight
    @twelfthknight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think it was Northrop Frye who argued that the Christian Bible has been so instrumental in shaping the imagination and imagery of Western Civilization that it will keep getting replicated in art regardless of the artists' intentions. It's funny that I missed the Biblical language becoming a theme in the titles, despite being so immediately plain.

  • @spencermalley10
    @spencermalley10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    See, That's how you do it, Zack Snyder.

  • @philosopher.d
    @philosopher.d 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Judgement Day" in this universe, August 29, 1997, is my birthday.

    • @babywolf4238
      @babywolf4238 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Happy Judgement Day!

    • @kestral63
      @kestral63 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hope at least one of your birthday presents was labeled "To: Dilan, From: The future" containing a T-800 action figure. And as soon as you opened it speakers blasted "DU-DUN DUN DUN DU-DUN."

  • @kherelable
    @kherelable 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is so amazing.
    It's a big pleasure to watch your videos. Your analysis is really great.

  • @cruzer6181
    @cruzer6181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Christ metaphor is western film storytelling; especially in these genres. This can be applied to almost all good works of western films. I'm not disagreeing, I'm simply adding to the discussion. In fact, I totally agree and kudos on the great examples referenced in your video.

  • @moviemaestro800
    @moviemaestro800 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact! Although the script of the first Terminator film is credited to James Cameron and Gale Anne Hurd, Cameron has since said that the real credit belongs more to himself and his friend William Wisher Jr. Allegedly, Wisher didn't feel like he contributed enough to earn credit, since Cameron already had a story, and Wisher was merely assigned to script the drafts of most of the scenes at the police station and Sarah's house. However, it's been claimed that Hurd similarly contributed to the script in terms of suggesting scenes and dialogue. So, why is Hurd's name attached, but not Wisher's? Mainly, it was because Hurd had far more of a reputation at the time (albeit nothing close to a Spielberg of Weinstein production credit), and was indeed the very reason that The Terminator got greenlit with Cameron attached to direct. Cameron was still an up-and coming production designer and assistant director at Roger Corman's studio, and had only recently been given his first directing job on Piranha II, which didn't work out well for either him or the studio. Hurd did like Cameron''s Terminator script, but Cameron wanted to direct, and was certain that no studio would give him a second chance after his fiasco of a first attempt, unless he made a deal with someone he could trust. He sold the rights of The Terminator to Hurd at the cost of literally one dollar, in exchange for the exclusive rights to direct the project, if any studio would back it. Since she was seen as a promising producer by the distributors, she was given a "with" screenwriting credit when it became known that she contributed edits to the script, despite Cameron's insistence that "she did no actual writing at all." Make of that what you will.

  • @TimS440
    @TimS440 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very, very interesting analysis.

  • @luisa.belmares5716
    @luisa.belmares5716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And now it seems that James Cameron wants to make the same mistake that Ridley Scott did with Alien.
    I would only like to see one last movie (not a trilogy nor a reboot as Cameron is planing) set it in the future where all the pieces of the first two films close the loop.

  • @jordanwaskelis4913
    @jordanwaskelis4913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So when are we getting Terminator: Revelation? ;)

  • @nichtoffentlich4142
    @nichtoffentlich4142 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is all so familiar, did you release this video before?

  • @matthewpaul6904
    @matthewpaul6904 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Christ figure has become an archetype of fiction over the years. And writers like Cameron or George Lucas and others love their archetypes

  • @joshuabell7761
    @joshuabell7761 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What if James Cameron is Jesus Christ?

  • @rhymebeat1142
    @rhymebeat1142 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think it's overgeneralizing to assume any and all characters with JC initials are meant to be Christ stand ins.

    • @rhymebeat1142
      @rhymebeat1142 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK.

    • @ShirDeutch
      @ShirDeutch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "I'm not Jesus but I have the same initials"
      - Jarvis Cocker

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    J C are also James Cameron's initials.

    • @ryanmarquez3556
      @ryanmarquez3556 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He says that.

    • @guilmon182
      @guilmon182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah. He says that.

    • @nichtoffentlich4142
      @nichtoffentlich4142 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He mentioned that in the video!

    • @scoobytwenty327
      @scoobytwenty327 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      KingOfMadCows He literally says this in the video.

    • @MagusMarquillin
      @MagusMarquillin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +guilmon182 Ryan Marquez covered that.
      +nicht oddentlich Guilmon182 mentioned that in another comment.
      +Ryan Hayes This has been said many times, you're not even the first Ryan.
      +KingOfMadCows Huh, neat.

  • @polreamonn
    @polreamonn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Terminator.....both the greatest love story and biblical saga ever told.

  • @sonalirai5835
    @sonalirai5835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In fact, I feel that these Christ figures in films can also be compared to similar saviour like figures in various different religions. I think that the concept of a saviour isn't just a Christian one but actually something that all humans can relate to. Although, yes, John Corner's story parallels to that of Jesus Christ so obviously he was intended to be a Christ figure. Can't help but see the similarities.

    • @felixhaggblom7562
      @felixhaggblom7562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well these figures were invented in a predominantly Christian setting. If similar characters were made in, say, an Bollywood produciton, perhaps it would be more likely a Krishna figure.

  • @romanatwin
    @romanatwin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this movie is pretty unique in that it uses the Christ narrative by focusing on Mary rather than JC. I can think of a few movies that focus on a Judas figure, but I can't think of any other Mary-centric films.

  • @waldenandwilson
    @waldenandwilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only two of those movies tell a meaningful story. The rest of that shit is the Book of Mormon, at best.

  • @erupendragon7376
    @erupendragon7376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just ruined this movies for me. I think Christians see Jesus everywhere, like conspiracy theorists. In reality there is not a single original story in the Bible and predecessors did it much better. I usually compare cinema with better pieces of literature, until someone ruins it with jesus.