The interior has actually aged REALLY well! In an era of touch screens and flat panels, that somewhat protruding dashboard of buttons and knobs is gorgeous! 😍
I have a BMW 650i e64 convertible 2008 that I got in 2019 right before pandemic for only $15k before fees at only 51,000 miles. I absolutely love this car. Heaviest car I’ve ever driven. Acceleration is out of this world. Feels amazing. Best used car I ever bought but keep in mind getting one of these are expensive to upkeep especially in NYC. I take care of it well but it really does turn heads
@shaserdeses - I have come across an 08 Coupe with 65K Miles. Was thinking of getting it just as a side summer/weekend car however hear horrible stuff about its V8. Are they really that awful? I would put apprx 6-8K miles per year.
The N62 engine mate bmw used made for it is actually a fantastic engine. It won international engine of the year in 2002. Keep in mind a v8 is gonna guzzle gas a lot. If ur not driving a lot then you’re fine. My only downside has really just been handing tires, tire pressure and damage that can happen to the rims over time. If you’re using it just for summer then it’s perfect!
So... I foolishly traded my beloved 2002 E39 M5 on a slightly used 2006 650i coupe, it even had a rare 6 speed manual. I liked the car except for the extremely harsh 1st gen run-flats. I took it to the track twice and would frequently meet a group of E63/E64s at the Tail of the Dragon. With the torquey V8 and ARS, it did quite well, even keeping up with M3s. We had folks from NJ, FL, MS, & IL, along with myself from NC! Some upped their 6's to M6s but I soon traded to a 2008 550i M Sport with 6sp auto and no runflat tires! I preferred the 550i room and comfort with minimal sacrifice in sportiness. We continued meeting at the TOD twice a year for 5 years when several moved on to other exploits. PS: I've driven 10 different BMWs at the Dragon over the years! SO nice to be relatively close to it.
I often dream of what it's like to have roads this empty during the day without being in the literal sticks. Please appreciate how blessed you are for this. I have to wait until 10pm earliest to be able to go the speed limit without constantly cutting lanes, EXCLUSIVELY passing on the right & being an outright jerk, which is many times the only way to make it to work on time.
Thanks for doing this video! N62 is such a gem of an engine (if it was taken care of). Can’t emphasize the oil change interval importance on this engine enough. It has an awesome powerband, sounds almost exotic when you open it up, and it’s so smooth. Pushes these cars down the road really well. Even if an N62 was neglected and it’s leaking and/or burning oil, it’ll always just keep running. These don’t have all of the timing chain guide, injector, carbon buildup, HPFP, and rod bearing issues that the N63 has, especially the early one. Lastly, N62 still has a dipstick and a mechanical water pump, unlike most BMWs from that era and currently.
@@RyanRoadReaper You’re right. However, if the oil change intervals were sane (5-7k miles not BMW’s 15-20k interval), they can last a long time. I know 2 people with around 200k miles on original N62 valve stem seals, and they’re doing just fine. They did maintain the car religiously.
I've had my 2008 650i cab 10 years now, it has done just shy of a 100K km (62K miles) and as time goes by I just love the car even more. Not sure how to explain it, but when I put the roof down and take my wife for a spin we both smile from ear to ear. It's in mint condition, always parked indoors. I've had no issues with the engine, only transmission. Get one while you can!
I love the interior and powertrains of these older BMWs, aswell as the styling. The exterior styling is very subjective, some people like it, some people don’t on this carI’m not the biggest fan of it, but it’s better than most of the new cars.
I really liked the styling of the E63 6-Series when it came out because it closely resembled the Z9 concept from 1999. Then as the years went on I started to hate it. Now I’m starting to like it again. But then I compare it to the nearly perfect E24 and think never mind…
I'm on my second used e64. A one owner low mileage 650i. Love everything about it! Just had muffler delete and it now sounds like a WW2 Messerschmitt going down the runway when pushing it! 🚙💨 👍👌😎
I have an ‘08 650i coupe and I adore it. It’s basically a Baby-Bentley. Always loved the looks, sure it’s got a couple of weird angles but it’s all part of the character. I have the tan/aluminium interior and it’s a stunning place to be. The rear seats are usable by an adult for short journeys and isofix as standard means it’s practical. The boot on the coupe is huge. Give the engine lots of TLC and it’ll be generally reliable. The power is plenty, the car is damn quick, and I say that as a motorcycle rider. Economy is surprisingly good for such a big V8.
Honestly im weirded out. This happened with the CT5 V blackwing too. Savagegeese posted on the same day and it was completely unplanned on a car that has been out for ages.
Interesting that you and Jayemm posted a video about the same car within a few hours of each other. Stop driving prices up lol! But seriously, I’ve always liked the 650i but N62 reliability terrifies me.
Thank you Tedward for this test drive! I own E63 650i and the way to deeper someones feelings or get inloved in this cars is to watch 3-episodes series of Discovery Channel about how this car was designed, tested and produced in Munich/Dingolfing. A must see recommendation...All the best 🏳🌈
OMG Ted!!! I thought I am the only one who looses his nerves when he hears that warning noise! :D #ptsd since my F10 with N53 Engine has some engine cold-start issues (VANOS Errors, Nox Sensor Errors, camshaft related stuff which is common with this engine..) I simply get the cold shiver when I hear the GONG telling me it has 3 °C :D Does anyone know a way to change the sound for non-errors to something different? The 650i is killer, love that vibe and the beige leather seats
By far the biggest bargain on the market (not this one necessarily). So thank you to all the people that think they're so expensive to own, that the price has dropped 90% from new!
@tedward, I have a 2009 E63 M6 manual, interlagos blue on silverstone interior you can review. I’m in NJ but I could def try to make it to Boston if it’s something you’d be willing to make a video with!
Ok, I'm pedantic, but...BMW cars are referred to as Bimmers. The BMW motorcycles are the Beemers. Regardless of the general acceptance. However, I do love your videos!
I remember liking it a lot like 10 years ago or so back when I was not a car guy yet but just a boy interested in typical boys' stuff and I remember my dad being the complete opposite saying it's disgustingly ugly. I still like it although definitely less, the rear POV still looks really good imo, very unique, front end not so much, side looks atrocious if you focus on the line and kinda remove the boot in your head. But now I can't see myself ever having one. I think if I were to get a big, luxurious beemer from that period for whatever reason, I'd go with 5 series if anything.
As much as having the E64 650i would have been nice.. I decided to play safe and go with the N52 3L as the Exxon Valdez V8 put me off.. Also went for the coupe as I live in the UK…so convertibles don’t make sense here ☔️💁🏻♂️
@@picdar16 Well, the tandem pump is expensive and the gear itself, but neither are prone to failure. Maintenance? Other than checking oil level, there is none? I have a E64 650i with active steering and had a E64 630i before without it.
@@jackdoe3889 the Dynamic Drive Pack which includes hydraulic anti-roll bars and a variable ratio steering rack may sharpen up the 6-series’ handling. But It’s not worth it, big bills are guaranteed if it goes wrong and honestly it’s inferior to a proper aftermarket suspension setup which is cheaper to repair, offers 1 less thing to go wrong and generally aftermarket setups can be fine tuned for far better handling and ride quality. Also they do go wrong and they tend to be difficult to find replacements for at a reasonable price. I’ve replaced allot of dynamic drive valve blocks over the last few years with various bmw models. By maintenance I refer to replacing the seals that keep it in good order as well as the block solenoids.
@@picdar16 You are now talking about something entirely different. I mentioned the active steering, but you talk about the hydraulicly adjustable sway bars. Yes, they have issues, but you can and many did have active steering without them.
I don’t understand why any automotive TH-camr just don’t fasten the seatbelt BEFORE they startup the engine😅 Then they would be free of the sounds, and we would be too😁
@@TedwardDrives he's a great chap, always something interesting in the works. Highly recommend his history/ tales series. Keep it up, love your content!
I can't tell you how many of these I've seen in awful, awful shape. But there's definitely been too many! Still looks like one of the best Bangle designs though
Love these older ones. Those gauges are so much better looking than the new digital ones imo
Absolutely.
Our lives are saturated with screens. The last thing I want to do is look at another one in my car.
@@verdict1163 this.
@@verdict1163 yup
@@verdict1163I felt this. Long live analog gauges and button heavy center stacks.
I'd love to see if Tedward ever gets the opportunity to bring us a V10 M6/M5 POV drive, I really love them
Make it a manual too
I THINK he drove a manual m6 years ago
Dad used to have this, absolutely loved it, I still have fond memories of sitting in the back while listening to the BBC on the radio
The interior has actually aged REALLY well! In an era of touch screens and flat panels, that somewhat protruding dashboard of buttons and knobs is gorgeous! 😍
I have a BMW 650i e64 convertible 2008 that I got in 2019 right before pandemic for only $15k before fees at only 51,000 miles. I absolutely love this car. Heaviest car I’ve ever driven. Acceleration is out of this world. Feels amazing. Best used car I ever bought but keep in mind getting one of these are expensive to upkeep especially in NYC. I take care of it well but it really does turn heads
@shaserdeses - I have come across an 08 Coupe with 65K Miles. Was thinking of getting it just as a side summer/weekend car however hear horrible stuff about its V8. Are they really that awful? I would put apprx 6-8K miles per year.
The N62 engine mate bmw used made for it is actually a fantastic engine. It won international engine of the year in 2002. Keep in mind a v8 is gonna guzzle gas a lot. If ur not driving a lot then you’re fine. My only downside has really just been handing tires, tire pressure and damage that can happen to the rims over time. If you’re using it just for summer then it’s perfect!
So... I foolishly traded my beloved 2002 E39 M5 on a slightly used 2006 650i coupe, it even had a rare 6 speed manual. I liked the car except for the extremely harsh 1st gen run-flats. I took it to the track twice and would frequently meet a group of E63/E64s at the Tail of the Dragon. With the torquey V8 and ARS, it did quite well, even keeping up with M3s. We had folks from NJ, FL, MS, & IL, along with myself from NC! Some upped their 6's to M6s but I soon traded to a 2008 550i M Sport with 6sp auto and no runflat tires! I preferred the 550i room and comfort with minimal sacrifice in sportiness. We continued meeting at the TOD twice a year for 5 years when several moved on to other exploits. PS: I've driven 10 different BMWs at the Dragon over the years! SO nice to be relatively close to it.
That interior still looks really good.
This is one of those cars I’ve always secretly liked but ashamed to admit it LOL
Why ? It’s a good looking car
How DARE you be ashamed to like a bmw
I know! I like them a lot tbh
In our minds we all knew the bangle butt wasn't as ugly as everyone was making it out to be.
Same here, I always liked the coupe e36
My 645Ci conv SMG is the most fabulous car (of 130) that I have every owned...GORGEOUS
I often dream of what it's like to have roads this empty during the day without being in the literal sticks.
Please appreciate how blessed you are for this. I have to wait until 10pm earliest to be able to go the speed limit without constantly cutting lanes, EXCLUSIVELY passing on the right & being an outright jerk, which is many times the only way to make it to work on time.
Thanks for doing this video! N62 is such a gem of an engine (if it was taken care of). Can’t emphasize the oil change interval importance on this engine enough. It has an awesome powerband, sounds almost exotic when you open it up, and it’s so smooth. Pushes these cars down the road really well. Even if an N62 was neglected and it’s leaking and/or burning oil, it’ll always just keep running. These don’t have all of the timing chain guide, injector, carbon buildup, HPFP, and rod bearing issues that the N63 has, especially the early one. Lastly, N62 still has a dipstick and a mechanical water pump, unlike most BMWs from that era and currently.
The Achilles heel of the N62 are the valve seals. Once those are gone, it's typically more money than the car is worth to fix them.
@@RyanRoadReaper You’re right. However, if the oil change intervals were sane (5-7k miles not BMW’s 15-20k interval), they can last a long time. I know 2 people with around 200k miles on original N62 valve stem seals, and they’re doing just fine. They did maintain the car religiously.
some of them actually do have chain guide issues, pretty rare though
youre giving me hope that buying one of these wont be so bad
@@Metrooo4 It won’t. Make sure it had regular oil changes. That’s the most
important part.
I've driven E60 550 and it was one of the best driving cars i've driven.
I've had my 2008 650i cab 10 years now, it has done just shy of a 100K km (62K miles) and as time goes by I just love the car even more. Not sure how to explain it, but when I put the roof down and take my wife for a spin we both smile from ear to ear. It's in mint condition, always parked indoors. I've had no issues with the engine, only transmission. Get one while you can!
You and JayEmm must have similar ideas at similar times. I am getting a double dose of E64 650i content today!
Even with the damage, its still a beautiful car.
It's not even that rough.
@@Parrotdise290 exactly car’s going on 13 years old!! Looks good to me!!
I have always loved the look of these.
Hope you get your hands on a V10 M6. Always felt that was the pick of this gen M Cars. Nice review!
I love the interior and powertrains of these older BMWs, aswell as the styling. The exterior styling is very subjective, some people like it, some people don’t on this carI’m not the biggest fan of it, but it’s better than most of the new cars.
I really liked the styling of the E63 6-Series when it came out because it closely resembled the Z9 concept from 1999. Then as the years went on I started to hate it. Now I’m starting to like it again. But then I compare it to the nearly perfect E24 and think never mind…
I'm on my second used e64. A one owner low mileage 650i. Love everything about it! Just had muffler delete and it now sounds like a WW2 Messerschmitt going down the runway when pushing it! 🚙💨 👍👌😎
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I have an ‘08 650i coupe and I adore it. It’s basically a Baby-Bentley. Always loved the looks, sure it’s got a couple of weird angles but it’s all part of the character. I have the tan/aluminium interior and it’s a stunning place to be. The rear seats are usable by an adult for short journeys and isofix as standard means it’s practical. The boot on the coupe is huge.
Give the engine lots of TLC and it’ll be generally reliable. The power is plenty, the car is damn quick, and I say that as a motorcycle rider. Economy is surprisingly good for such a big V8.
I’ve always though this was a beautiful car inside and out
My dads got one, all black with silver rims and a dark red leather interior. Love that thing
I’ve been looking at these for ages, especially the 650i sport version
First JayEmm, and now you, both within a few hours.
Yea...weird
Honestly im weirded out. This happened with the CT5 V blackwing too. Savagegeese posted on the same day and it was completely unplanned on a car that has been out for ages.
Interesting that you and Jayemm posted a video about the same car within a few hours of each other. Stop driving prices up lol! But seriously, I’ve always liked the 650i but N62 reliability terrifies me.
What the heck.. Jay Emm just posted a review of a used BMW 650i . 3 hours ago.
More proof that we live in a simulation lol
@@TedwardDrives we live in something...lol. Yes
Thank you Tedward for this test drive! I own E63 650i and the way to deeper someones feelings or get inloved in this cars is to watch 3-episodes series of Discovery Channel about how this car was designed, tested and produced in Munich/Dingolfing. A must see recommendation...All the best 🏳🌈
OMG Ted!!! I thought I am the only one who looses his nerves when he hears that warning noise! :D #ptsd since my F10 with N53 Engine has some engine cold-start issues (VANOS Errors, Nox Sensor Errors, camshaft related stuff which is common with this engine..) I simply get the cold shiver when I hear the GONG telling me it has 3 °C :D Does anyone know a way to change the sound for non-errors to something different? The 650i is killer, love that vibe and the beige leather seats
Do a video with the B8 ALPINA. that's one of the 1's...
No way Jayemm and Tedwars do a review on the same car just 3 hours apart.
I love the 6 series 👍
By far the biggest bargain on the market (not this one necessarily). So thank you to all the people that think they're so expensive to own, that the price has dropped 90% from new!
Hell yeah 😂😂😂I bought a 07 650 vert for $2500. White red interior black top
I had fl 650i for some years. Was in the repair shop all the time 😅
I was in middle school when this came out, I remember hearing so much flak about reliability that I thought they completely fell apart weekly 😂
The E60 M5 and E63 M6 are my personal favorite BMW cars ever.😊
Fun fact Alphina B7 had this engine in it and only diference was compresion and supercharger
The 650i has the N62B48 engine, the Alpina B5, B6 and B7 have the H1 Motor wich is based on the N62B44 motor.
Would love to see a M6 V10 in the future
I have a 2007 650i myself! Cool cars!
Hows the reliability?
@tedward, I have a 2009 E63 M6 manual, interlagos blue on silverstone interior you can review. I’m in NJ but I could def try to make it to Boston if it’s something you’d be willing to make a video with!
Luv this v8❤
This is one of the fancy cars you'd pull up to work in daily lol
My buddy has that car in black, there built solid, especially with no turbos
The bangle era of BMW has grown on me. I still don’t care for E65. The Alpina B7 version looks great in my opinion.
My mates roast the e60 design, but idk something about it.. I really like it.
Ok, I'm pedantic, but...BMW cars are referred to as Bimmers. The BMW motorcycles are the Beemers. Regardless of the general acceptance. However, I do love your videos!
My dad has an e65 7 series V8 and at 100 kph the tacho is cruising at 1050 and he's getting about 48 miles per gallon, same engine and gearbox 🤔
I thought those shifters were for DCT transmissions ?
Love this car
I remember liking it a lot like 10 years ago or so back when I was not a car guy yet but just a boy interested in typical boys' stuff and I remember my dad being the complete opposite saying it's disgustingly ugly. I still like it although definitely less, the rear POV still looks really good imo, very unique, front end not so much, side looks atrocious if you focus on the line and kinda remove the boot in your head. But now I can't see myself ever having one. I think if I were to get a big, luxurious beemer from that period for whatever reason, I'd go with 5 series if anything.
Most funniest thing about Ted ward is "let take a under the hood "
As much as having the E64 650i would have been nice.. I decided to play safe and go with the N52 3L as the Exxon Valdez V8 put me off.. Also went for the coupe as I live in the UK…so convertibles don’t make sense here ☔️💁🏻♂️
4:00 Unimpressed, the windshield is still up
I like these cars I might get one
Arabanız çok güzel size bi sorum olacak tavan dikiz aynadaki 3 tane tuş ne işe yarıyo bilgi verirseniz çok sevinirim aynı aracın 645ci var bende
I think they are garage door buttons for your home
I have an N52 328xi so its too reliable to get rid off, but one day i want an n54 or N62 just to have fun with
Ahh the bmw for old men whose hobbies include watercolour painting, collecting coins and reading the newspaper.
Good 3rd or 4th car for a retiree here in Florida. Horrible daily driver for someone in the northeast
Well scratches are normal wear and tear. As every car gets old they need to get a new paint job and do everything to protect the paint.
That car has active steering, which is a rather brilliant extra.
It‘s a must have
It is until it goes wrong, absurdly expensive to maintain and repair.
Speaking as a E63 owner.
@@picdar16 Well, the tandem pump is expensive and the gear itself, but neither are prone to failure.
Maintenance? Other than checking oil level, there is none?
I have a E64 650i with active steering and had a E64 630i before without it.
@@jackdoe3889 the Dynamic Drive Pack which includes hydraulic anti-roll bars and a variable ratio steering rack may sharpen up the 6-series’ handling.
But It’s not worth it, big bills are guaranteed if it goes wrong and honestly it’s inferior to a proper aftermarket suspension setup which is cheaper to repair, offers 1 less thing to go wrong and generally aftermarket setups can be fine tuned for far better handling and ride quality.
Also they do go wrong and they tend to be difficult to find replacements for at a reasonable price. I’ve replaced allot of dynamic drive valve blocks over the last few years with various bmw models. By maintenance I refer to replacing the seals that keep it in good order as well as the block solenoids.
@@picdar16 You are now talking about something entirely different. I mentioned the active steering, but you talk about the hydraulicly adjustable sway bars.
Yes, they have issues, but you can and many did have active steering without them.
I don’t understand why any automotive TH-camr just don’t fasten the seatbelt BEFORE they startup the engine😅
Then they would be free of the sounds, and we would be too😁
245 section in the rear, too? Wrong setup, should be a wider tire in the back.
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Not a big fan of the shape, but the engine 😍Hope to drive a BMW on my channel some day.
From the inside I like the car more than modern cars.
Is this vehicle for sale?
It sold in July
One of my most controversial opinions was wanting to drive an E60 M5 lol
Hope more people appreciate these now that modern design has truly ruined BMW
Been chatting with Jay Emm lately? 😂
genuinely had never heard of him until today. lovely video he made. he seems to like this car a lot more than I do.
@@TedwardDrives he's a great chap, always something interesting in the works. Highly recommend his history/ tales series. Keep it up, love your content!
The absolutely hideous cars that BMW makes today (e.g., 7 series, X M, etc.) trick us into thinking the Bangle-era cars maybe look OK.
Bmw should bring back the 6 series
These were when cars were cars not the plastic screened filled crap they call cars today. Miss these older designs.
I can't tell you how many of these I've seen in awful, awful shape. But there's definitely been too many! Still looks like one of the best Bangle designs though
Front-on isn't a great angle, but I think it's pretty cute honestly. Probably part the problem guys have with it, now that I say that.
It’s got a mousy little snoot haha
I thought it said e46 with a v8 for a second there
Hello
The last great Germany Autobahn before the tight eyes ruin the market
I want your job so bad dude.
Dude kinda talks like the Nazi guy from inglorious bastards.
You can’t fix ugly lol.
It's good, but ugly
In my opinion one of the most ugly bmws ever 😅
I love BMW but that car's front is just plain ugly.