How to clean your whetstones
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- This is the easiest way to clean your whetstones. Using Sabitoru Rust Erasers to clean whetstones has changed my life. The Naniwa dressing stone is the next best thing but wears too quickly for my taste. The rust eraser will save you time and money, and I have still used one that is 4-5 years old.
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I bought those rust erasers at your suggestion a good while ago. They do the trick very easily and my whetstone felt so slick and more effective afterwards. They're cheap too; really great.
thanks for the input. i'm glad i wasn't lying!
who are the manufacturers of these erasers and where can I get them?
They're in the description right at the top.
Thank you for the review!!!
Isn't the rust eraser with the white writing the medium and the one with black/dark blue a course?
Now that I realize, I started directly with the rust eraser... Thank you, you changed my life!
Wow thank you, have been using a nagura stone to clean my whetstones without much luck, just took to them with a rust eraser and they have come up as new, thanks again
It's always a pleasure when some cheaper alternative is as good or better than the more expensive solutions. Thanks! :-)
Sharpening yesterday I didn't have my rust erasers. But, I did have a well worn green 3 m pad. I soaked it. It worked quite well during the session. It removed the load up quite well.
" Knife is Life " I didn't know there was so much to cleaning stones and/or rust removers. Great video
Every question I've looked up in the past week has resulted in your video popping up first and at this point I'm just going to watch every video you have in order.
Class is in session.
I'm glad I dug this far back on your videos.
Just ordered two of these rust erasers to give them a try!
just now discovering your videos, love them! Awesome resource for those of us that love knives and taking care of them!
I got that rust eraser and tried to clean an 8000 soaking stone with it. It didn't remove any of the dirt, but it did wreck the surface of the stone, which now feels a lot rougher than before. So that's something.
Did you use the coarse or fine rust eraser?
Hi Ryky, many thanks for another great tip. I just used these on my new Veneve Dragon Diamond whetstones, and it worked great without sacrificing too much "stone" as with the Nagura's which very quickly turned the colour of what ever stone I was cleaning by wearing down the stone, not just removing metal, thanks again.
Your previous Nagura you were using was literally wearing down the Venev? I’m really surprised by that wow
I been getting good results cleaning my glass shapton stones with scotch brite scrubbing pads in a pinch, believe it or not it works, but I do use my cleaning stones when I want to feel the stone.
You should make a video only about your favorite Chosera 3000 stone, and how you use it to fully sharpen a dull knife among other things. Other than that, please add the Chosera Glass to the Naniwa Chosera VS Shapton Glass comparison (making it a three series versus, Chosera Glass VS Regular Chosera VS Shapton Glass),
oh.... that's in the works
Thank you so much for suggesting the rust eraser for cleaning stones. I got one last summer after watching one of your videos and love it!
right on. glad i'm not lying!
Thanks for the helpful video, I would have definitely ruined my new whetstone immediately without this information lol.
Before I have Rust Eraser, I like to use Magic Eraser to clean my whetstone, it cleans nearly all the residue and it’s pretty cheap and easy to find.
I got my rust erasers in today, can't wait to try them out once i get my knife sharpening series up and running, i just want to say you have given me inspiration in how i want to present my knife sharpening series, will post a link once it is up and running .
Please do a video about the different types of materials used to make wet stones and which ones are better for what!
The top camera view made this video AWESOME!
Awesome channel. I've only scratched the surface of giving my kitchen knives some well deserved care and to say the least I've been inspired.
I just wanted convey that the strop venture sounds great and I would have been a happy buyer if I didn't live where import cost is either equal or above the starting price...
Dang Ryky, like you, I’m a father of three. I work and do most of the cooking. I really like you and think you’re a good guy. That being said I hope you can appreciate that I don’t have 45 minutes in my busy schedule to learn how to clean a whetstone. Can you make a series for the busy folks? Short and to the point vids.
I really hope I didn’t come across as being rude or talking mess.
Many thanks to do this review, is so great to see you doing something for your subscribers that are following from the beginning.
just doing my best and keeping it real.
I know A,G,Russell had a few videos he made before he died that promoted the use of a rust eraser to clean a whetstone. Although he was primarily talking about oil stones and ceramics.
Do those rust erasers change the surface grit on the stones? Meaning making a very fine stone cut coarser?
Do you have a video on flattening Stones?
Whetstone flattening and maintenance, a video by him about flattening. The rust erasers shouldn’t change the grit. The very top surface may get a little changed, especially if you use one that is really coarse. But, after a few passes it should be back to normal for the most part. If not, fine sandpaper, a nagura, or something similar will bring it back.
no, I just used the rust erasers. It takes off as little of the stone as possible. It also does not alter the grit of your whetstone.
I tried cleaning the 6000 grit polishing side of my King 1K/6K combo stone, which needs cleaning pretty regularly in use, and the medium grit sabitoru rust eraser seemed to be leaving finer particles embedded in the polishing stone surface. I didn't like the feel of that - wasn't sure if was a good idea to continue. Anyone found that in the higher grit stones? Maybe I didn't soak it in water long enough - Sabitoru recommend soaking for a while
@@dan1931 I tried the rust eraser and it did the same to my king 4000! Maybe it’s cause we are both Dans
I love your videos, and I’m quickly becoming a fan of Shun. Would you please do a video on your top 5 or 10 cleavers? I’m in the market for my first one.
Thanks
Great video I’ve just ordered my rust eraser set, I will keep you posted.
Hi, you know something that I tried recently to clean a stone was some 600 grit sandpaper. I was refinishing a blade and had an assortment of wet/dry sandpaper and I just gave it a shot. I made sure that the surface of the stone was nice and wet and just used light pressure. It worked very well and I also used it to round off the edges a little. I am not sure if there are any negative side effects to this such as grit contamination but the sandpaper grit certainly does not become embedded in the stone. It is very inexpensive of course and simple and quick.. (I am not suggesting I thought of this, I just haven't seen this method used to clean the surface of a water stone before). I have been doing it now for a few months and I have used various grits from 600-1,000. Give it a shot :)
I find that 2000 grit sandpaper does the job even better; it cleans the surface nicely, and flattens waterstones slowly so that you can use the sandpaper with every use without any problems.
ı use 180 grit sandpaper and my stone now not working what should ı do
Sure you figured it out by now, but hit it with a diamond plate if you have one. Some stones don't respond well to sandpaper, especially if grit is too high or low @ibrahimakpnar3008
I just grabbed 2 of the white ones from Amazon based on your suggestion 👍🏻
Hi Ryky, thanks for the vids! I got myself a pair of the same rust erasers and they cleaned my Shapton stones really well. But I did get worried about my Naniwa super 5k. It felt like it cross contaminated quite a bit. The stone was bobbly and slightly gritty after a few passes. Anyone else having this experience with the Naniwa’s?
where is the promised butter knife sharpening video?
Man I bought one of those rust erasers like 3 years ago on Amazon lol, never found a use for it until now thanks lol. I thought it would be great to clean my knives but after I bought it I realized it was a hard stone and figured it would just scratch the heck off my knife
The Rust Eraser is not a stone. It is a polymer with grit in it.
Thanks for the tip! If I understood your point, you're saying that rust erasers work well for cleaning the whetstones? But we would still need a nagura for flattening them, right? (Sorry for the n00b question.)
happy new year ryky may you have more blessings in the coming year cheers
how Howard! its' going to be a great 2018! Happy New Year, and catch you in 2018!
Thank you for a great video: What can one use to clean a 2000 grit oil stone, or any oil stone for that matter?
The eraser looked very good tot me. Just ordered two in Japan on Ebay, thanks.
Hi, Happy new year! hope u r having a great time. I stopped sharpening knives 10 years ago, and now I see it was my technique wrong, so I'm copying yours :) question, do you have like a starting kit recommendation? I have and old 2 sided shun stone, 300 and 1000 both sides are uneven, I want to make some investment know, getting a couple of nice stones, what are recommended, I love Muela knives and I have normal kitchen knives, all the best for '18!
Is cross contamination not an issue if using the grit from different stones are falling into the same water? Does the grit just not stay suspended?
If you're cleaning the stone then yes i would be careful to use the same water. Not a big deal but I'd watch out for it.
Hello your rest eraser infomercial you just put on I'm definitely going to purchase some of those for my stones and rest I do a lot of metal work prior to polishing this I think will work great thank you🕶"
Just got my rust eraser today. Can’t wait to try them.
Outstanding video. I am slightly unclear on one issue, can I use a 6,000 grit dressing stone to properly clean the same grit sharpening stone? I do use the rust eraser too. It is amazing!
Love watching your sharpening videos! Been very helpful as I am learning and getting better. Don't know if you have ever addressed it, but does water temperature matter with soaking stones? Any recommendations?
Cool. I just ordered a couple of those rust erasers. Also, it's good to know that the rust erasers are a little soft, kinda like an eraser.
right on. let me know how it works. what whetstones do you have?
Thanks as always for the valuable content! Quick question:
For my first stone for mainly sharpening a kogatana knife, survival knives and wood working chisels, should I get a King KDS 1000/6000 or just get Cerax 1000 and buy a separate 6,000 later on when I have the money?
Thanks!
go cerax 1k, and get polishing stone later one. always invest in good 1000 stone first.
This is awesome, I need some advice in where to find a sharpening stone with length more than 8 o 9 inches
hmmm. i never measure my stones, but from now on, when i feature stones, i'll try to remember to mention their lengths
I picked up the 800 Chosera and the 3000 Chosera stones after seeing one of your comparison videos! I haven't used them yet! I think I'll use them on my new straight edge razor I just purchased online today! I won't use the 800 grit stone on a new factory finished razor, but the 3000 Chosera and the 8000 and 16,000 Sharpton Glass whetstone to finish up the honing! Even if they say shave ready I at least will strop the razor! It just works miracles when stropping after honing! or do I mean that the other way around?
haha. many people will strop on leather even after polishing on a 20K stone. it's all good.
*Look into and test, the magic erasers for kitchen pots and pans. That's what I use on my King KDS stones. I think you will like it*
Hello, I have been watching you extensively. I have grown tired of paying $65 to sharpen my kitchen knives. So, upon your recommendation I bought a King 1000/6000 whetstone. I want to learn as much as I can prior to my first use. I have watched others and feel your presentations and knowledge are unsurpassed.
I just found out about nagura stones, and ordered on from King. I also wanted to know how to clean them, thus me watching this video. Thank you for your time and putting these on your channel.
If I am not being nosy, what is on your right wrist, and does it have meaning?
Respectfully,
Michael Duncan
Yup. Good approach. Eventually you Will have gained most of the academic knowledge. At that point you need serious sharpening experience. I started becoming quite confident and very effective after 200 - 300. Don’t worry you won’t wreck your knives. But eventually you’ll be able to get them razor sharp without thinking about it. Eventually you’ll learn your own tricks that even TH-cam won’t tell you about. Even after 400 sharpenings, I recently had my wire- burr edge after sharpening on a fine 3000 grit come off the blade just like a fine long hair. Lol. I’ve yet to see that on TH-cam, by anyone. So give yourself some time and after a couple years he will be very good. I’m thoroughly convinced anyone can be as good as Japanese if you apply yourself and our OCD enough.
what did you get to clean your King 1000/6000 stone?? would you mind adding a link please
Patback22 KRAMER by ZWILLING Cleaning Stone for Sharpening Stones off of Amazon.
Ryke thanks for the good vids mate , but have a question regarding these rust erasors for cleaning your wetstones??. I wash my stones after evry use and a bit of flattening prior or after use with a diamond stone and would have thought that would have been ample for cleaning a wetstone ??..Other than a Nagura Stone for the finer stones for that added bit of slurry i havent thought of a rust erasor??. This good enough or does the rust erasor do more ??.
Cheers and keep em comming in :)..
if you already have a plate you are using, you don't need to pick up anything else. plates do tend to be a bit aggressive, but if you are happy with the results, just keep at it. just use what you have
Hey Ryky, could have a video on what the best stones for a knife sharpener to have professionally, since it will get a varied amount of quality from the customers knives
sure. will do a followup
Where is that link to the Kramer dressing stone? Nice video!
Here's one thing people should understand about naguras...they aren't great for cleaning up an already loaded stone, although they will work. Their biggest function is raising a slurry BEFORE sharpening so that significant loading doesn't take place to begin with. Especially with higher grit finishing stones they'll also act to increase the feedback and improve the overall feel of the stone. Some stones really feel much better when they're hit with a nagura first, I'm thinking stones like the Kitayama 8k, Arashiyama 6k, the fine grit Shapton Pro/Ha No Kuromaku stones (even though Shapton will tell you NOT to use them 🤷♂️) etc. The fact is a rust eraser simply can't do everything a good nagura can do. For strictly cleaning loading, sure they work fine. And not all naguras are soft. Naniwa makes a line of them now (although they are pricey like all things Naniwa) that are actually very hard and will last a very long time. Certainly far, far more than the blanket "20 times" stated in this video. They are hard hard, like Shapton Pro hard. My point is don't forget about naguras and just buy a rust eraser after watching this, you'll miss out on some of their primary functions and and intended uses. Their use is more complex than cleaning an already loaded up stone
I have one of those "ocean blue" naguras from amazon that works pretty well for stone cleaning. Wears ridiculously slow. Want to try out a rust eraser now though...
use up what you have, then pick up something new when its' time. don't purchase anything unless you really need to
Is that the same thing as naniwa Dressing stone
Hey m8 great Video. Like and Subscriped ^^
But i got a question, my 5 and 8 naniwa Superstones get while Polishing small raised Points ( steel ) Can i use the Naniwa Dressing Stone for all grids ?
Never used it above 5k but most likely
Hey ryky aaah
I really need to know something how do you dry your stones
Did you ever get little cracks on the 8000 grit snow white???
Because i hear a lot of people having trouble with that
Falcon take them out of the water at them dry before putting them away too much water may activate the materials used🕶"
I used the exact same brand and use the white writing medium grit eraser on my king 6000 and it left the texture of the stone very coarse feeling coarser than my 1000 and 800. Anything from anybody reading this would be much appreciated.
Yes, use a nagura before sharpening and the stone won't load up to begin with
I didn't know there was multiple types of rust erasers. I was using the rust eraser that kind of looks like the erases pencil markings. Good video I enjoy your videos when I get a chance to watch them. Peace ✌
Another a is a mud style stone it is slurry solidified. Or use rotten stone in sandstone constantly in my stone flattening and forming processes. Some of my favorite polishing compound is rotten opal, In Australian slurry or no obvious reasons diggers have it left over.
if you arent a professional chef, japanese chef, or need your knife to be insanely sharp and super precise, just get a cheap nagura stone. nagura stones basically has 2 primary functions, clean and correct. the most important function of a nagura stone is to correct the shape of the whetstone; from convex shape back to its original flatten shape. after long usage a whetstone surface can become inconsistent (no longer flat/convex shape) and this can become a problem when sharpening knives especially on lower grit stones whereby a slight error in the angle can cause your edge to be damaged or the stone to be damaged. the other function is to clean; remove metal shavings from previous sharpening, accumulated dirt and whatever thats making it dirty. the only thing you probably need to take note is to not use a lower grit nagura stone on a higher grit whetstone. e.g. for 3000g whetstone, use a 3000g nagura or higher but not too high. you dont want to use a 3000g nagura on a 800g whetstone either, you will just destroy the nagura stone before you can even clean out or flatten the 800g whetstone.
What’s a good one for the chosera 800
@@bri3449 king is a good brand to start from
@@Ace-cv1xd :( I don’t think they make an 800g one
Thank you - that was really helpful. I bought a rust eraser.
Hi! Where did you buy the stone holder? Are you satisfied with it? Stainless steel shafts and screws? Rust? And what the width? Planning on using with my 3" x 8 " DMT DiaSharp stones.
Thanks ☺
Hi Ryky I'm thinking about possibly buying a miyabi artisan chef knife and santoku they are rated at 63 on the Rockwell scale and I was hoping you would give me some budget whetstone recommendations in the 1000 6000 and 8000 grit ranges
When I was a child I would go over to Gerber and help them clean their stones I learned much as a child including how to turn stone into inc
Now I am searching my local online stores for it....Thanks for the tips.
Any time!
store.burrfection.com/collections/accessories/products/sabitoru-rust-eraser?variant=3203735080150
Rust Eraser Sabitoru by Kuniyoshi (on Amazon)
So I have 6 wurstoff steak knifes that I sharpened on a 400 grit 1000 grit then 3000 grit and then 8000 grit. They have some big chips. So should I try and fix the chips if so how? Or should I buy new steak knifes if so what is a good brand in $150 range for 6 knifes with decent metal?
Great video, very informative. Question, what is the source for your water tray?
Richard Beaudoin he has a amazon store the link is in the description
I see you've listed many favorite whetstones. I tried going through all your videos to see which to use but still a little confused. You normally go with the 800 grit and stop? When would I use 1000 or 3000 or 5000 or 8000 grit?
if you want mirror polish. i don't like mirror polishes for my knives.
I'm assuming you mean mirror polishes when using 5000 or 8000 grit? So when do you use 1000 or 3000?
Can you do a review on the Dalstrong Infinity 8inch chef knife with the black blade? I like to know your opinion about ceramic knifes.
What do you mean by cleaning whetstone, does it simply mean to flatten it or does it have a different meaning behind it?
Can we use any cheap (no brand) flattening stone instead of using the rust eraser or quality flattening stone?
cleaning is simply removing load up on the stone. you can flatten, but that takes off a bit more materials, and costs a lot more money to get a flattening stone, than just a stone cleaner. i use the atoma 140 for flattening, but it's pricey burrfectionstore.com/collections/accessories/products/atoma-diamond-sharpener
You didn't put a link to the Rust Erasers.
Is the name of the rust eraser 'Kuniyoshi'?
Will the rust eraser work on ceramic?
Nice video, do you sell and send your leather strops to europe? If so, is there an extra cost? What quality leather do you advise for a beginner? Thanks!
i do ship to EU. but, when you factor in shipping, you might want to look on ebay, or a local seller who sells strops. i'd say, if you want to buy from me, consider the shell cordovan, or buffalo, since they are probably much more expensive if you go elsewhere, but if you really just want a leather strop, just pick up a latigo leather strop locally, since you'll save money on the international shipping.
For a soaking stone,do I need to soak it first before I use the eraser?
Hey Ryky, do you still have a Dalstrong code? I guess this one may have expired...Thank you! Loving your channel.
Those rust erasers cleaned my shapton pro 8k well but left a rougher looking texture than my atoma plate which leaves it "glassy" looking. Could this affect the finish and/or speed of sharpening? Iirc the shapton website says the stone should have a "mirror like" finish.
I aggree the Shapton Pro 120 is fast cutting but faster wearing than the rest of the Shapton's. I like it too, but is there a faster-cutting super coarse stone--perhaps the Atoma 140 or DMT coarse Diasharp? For cleaning whetstones, rust erasers are better than Nagura's and cheap coarse dressing stones. When you say the latter will "destroy" your whetstones, you mean only that they will abrade them, not damage them--right?
Great Video, is rust eraser still your go-to cleaner?
Yup!
Haha. And I thought I was the only one using the Sabitori rust eraser. But it's the rubbery version, that won't wear the stone as much and will put a fine surface. I do have this medium coarse duo as well for about 2-3 years now, but I like that one more. It's almost new after all these years.
Worse dressing stone for me could be that Naniwa chunk from Chosera packs. Not what I would expect from top notch series (they could learn something from Suehiro here). I couldn't use it on anything from #400 to #12000. Just didn't like it at all as it was. I think it works better if the surface of the nagura itself is prepared on a coarse diamond stone from time to time. I did try this and it made a visible difference.
coolness, thanks for sharing your experience.
Can I use sandpaper for removing rust on my bluesteel yanagiba on the front and the back side or better use rust eraser??
Great videos! Appreciate what you do. Is your dalstrong discount on Amazon still active? Tried to use it but it says the code is expired.
ended midnight on Jan 1,. will contact Dalstrong to see if they can renew it for Jan. will post an update
Hello, I have some shapton glass stones but they seem to be clogged. It is possible to clean them with a flatting or lapping stone?
what grit are those rust erasers that you have?
i should probably get the fine grit for my 12,000 whetstone at least.
So, basically if Im only using #3000 or lower stones, like the chosera one as example, I dont have to worry about naguras or cleaning it? Thanks!
So medium for cleaning all your stones, and fine for scratches on blades? Thanks just about bought nagura
Yup
I just have a double sided whetstone one side is course and the other is fine and I am in my mechanic shop all the time so I usually just grab any oil I can find wd-40, ATF, motor oil etc. I don’t have any whetstones that I use water to soak them in I always use oil
Should my Whetstone be getting so dirty that I need to clean them after every knife I sharpen? The last time I sharpened my knives my Whetstones got a ton of metal embedded in the surface. An I don't something wrong or is that expected?
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am new to actual quality knives. What is a good knife for cutting up whole chickens? In the army I just used the chef knives, I see a lot of the higher end knives may chip cutting through bones. A little confused on what hardness would be right for it. Also would like a nice santoku as well...any recommendations would be appreciated.
kit.com/Burrfection/best-of-2017, that's my list of top picks for 2017, and you can watch my video of best knives 2017 that was uploaded a couple of weeks ago.
Burrfection so will any of those work on chicken bones as well? Don’t want to spend good money and breaking it because of my lack of knowledge lol sorry if these are stupid questions 😁
yeah they will all work. chicken is pretty straight forward, but if you want something VERY specific, go for a boning knife amzn.to/2EH1qsI. a great budget one is Mercer
Burrfection cool thanks so much for answering, I think I will look at the Enso HD hammered 8 inch, for all around use. It will be a gift for someone so I wanted to make sure it was a good all around quality. I like the look and is only $129 on Amazon right now. Thanks again
I have a 1000 grit Japanese whetstone I've been using for years and the stone is loaded up pretty good and is not cutting well and it needs to be flattened too.. So, what grit cleaning stone should I use on this 100 grit stone I have?
Burrfection Hi im new to whetstones. i got one about 4 or 5 days ago as a gift and i want to know if i should get some of those little rust erasers because i made a bit of a mess of my whetstone (its only a $30 whetstone) but still i want to take care of it. I never looked anything up when i first got it, just wanted to use it XD so i did do a little bit of damage to it. could one of those rust erasers level out my whet stone and make it good again? (i dont want to break the bank here)
The rust erasers made all my whetstones look brand new. Pro tip fosho !
Just keeping it real!
Hi could you please provide the link to where I can get the whestone cleaner, thanks.
What do you think of the ZELITE knives on amazon? They have a chefs knife that looks very similar to the Kramer chef knife. Any good ??
i'm sure they perform just fine. i don't feature them on my channel because they didn't treat me very nicely.
What do you think of the Naniwa Pro series?
hi there, happy new year everyone. just wondering when we can see the DMT and atoma plates on show...cant wait to see them
working on it!
great, and congrats on the new presents!
so, you never made a video of you sharpening with that 80,000 grit DIY stone that you made in april with the 3M adhesives. or I just couldn't find it.
CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THAT VIDEO? I am interested in how it performed. Happy New Years :)
th-cam.com/video/ge-rvSe0f6w/w-d-xo.html
"Kill two birds with one stone" Proceeds to kill one bird with two stones.
Thanks my brothers stone was almost black and it was originally white so I cleaned it for him
nice!
@@Burrfection weird how your replying 2 years after you made the video
Amazing video! Thanks!
Sabitooru observations:
1: You too have problems opening that package as I can see at the end of the video :D
2: Should these be as soft as a hard eraser? From the video I had the impression that these are hard stones like the Naniwa rust eraser.