What If Mirabel DIED | Encanto Disney Film Theory
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Today Ben dives into the Magical world of Encanto and the Family Madrigal to find out what would have happened if Casita had not been able to save Mirabel and she had died when the Miracle broke
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What other What If Scenarios would you like to see us cover?!
What if Dolores told the truth!!!! Aka Bruno is in the house !!! Keep in mind we don’t talk about brouno may impact this guys
What if Mirabel actually had a Gift
What is abuela let everyone in the family be who they want to be. And not what she want them to be.
Whichever! You guys always make my day!
What if the tva had not pruned the 2012 timeline? We have an escaped Loki and (more importantly) a whole elevator who think Cap is/know about Hydra. Yes I've read fanfictions on this but I need your take
Mirabel's mom was fine without Mirabel having a gift. Because to her, Mirabel WAS the gift, just as she was.
That's one reason Julieta is one of my favorite characters.
SHE IS SUCH A GREAT MOTHER OMIGOSH
Not how Alma saw it and that’s what made her so toxic
I agree with you all
I have the head cannon that each gift is Pedro sending a message to Abuela. "Weather this storm", "heal", "look to the future", "time to grow", "you are strong", "listen to your family", you need to accept change", silence (can be a strong statement), "you need to communicate"
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Which one is Camilo?
@@bushrak2247 accept change
omg that makes so much sense
@@bushrak2247"you need to accept change" since Camilo can shapeshift/CHANGE his appearance
Bruno charging thru the wall like a tank makes me like his character even more
he is surprisingly strong 😆
That was my absolute favorite part of the movie. And I like Bruno even more because his voice actor played Sid the Sloth in ICE AGE.
Bruno is a unit
We don't talk about Bruno.
The fact that we’re all still somewhat in an Encanto phase really makes me happy LOL
It's not a phase lol
I sometimes miss all the encanto TikTok’s😂
Oh no, I realized when you showed the clip of the “family photo” at 15:52, imagine how hard it’d hit that it was the last group photo while mirabel was alive, and they didn’t include her 😭
Oh my what a punch in the gut that would be.
OOF 😢
One of my favorite shots in the movie is right after Casita falls apart. When Mirabel is covered in dust, she looks like she did in the vision. That might be obvious, but it gives me chills every time.
I think it means that they thought that Mirabel was in the center of the destruction, the one who caused it...
Just a thought. The fact that mirabel was still sleeping in the nursery shows her childlike-out of the box thinking. When everyone enforces the thought that being in the nursery is a bad thing, it’s actually the thing that saves her and Casita. Once a person has their powers, Abuela pretty much pigeonholes that person. Making their existence their power. They are not allowed to have a life of their own. Because mirabel is “safe” from this burden she was able to see things from a different perspective and use the gift she DID receive. She received the gift of freedom and the opportunity to think for herself. Bruno tried to do this by living in the walls. But because this didn’t fit “his role” abuela pressured him into, he only felt loneliness and separation. Casita is the foundation and protection for the family. Mirabel is the foundation and protection for the family. Had she received a “door”, she wouldn’t have had the opportunity to bond with casita on the level she did. Much like her cousin who can talk to animals, mirabel could talk to casita. That is why she received her vision of the house cracking.
I believe Mirabel not only grounded her family but humbled them too. She made them relatable to the villagers. While everyone had god-like powers she did not. She made the family more approachable. Lbh, Abuela has RBF, and that is not your best spokes person. Mirabel was known for smiling and singing, having fun.
I saw many people headcanon that before Mirabel's ceremony went "bad," Abuela's favorite grandchild was Mirabel due to her being the youngest and taking after Julieta the most, who was also Abuela's most favored child.
I feel like something I don't see talked about enough is how bad Luisa's technique for lifting would actually be: she doesn't have to exert ANY effort to lift obscenely strong things, and when her power fails, she is still treated like the pack...uh...donkey?, and she would never have had to worry about lifting before. She would have hurt herself pretty badly. (That said, I freaking love Luisa, and I love that she gets her powers back and then immediately has her baby primo basically ground her, like nah, take five fam. XD)
Interesting thought. But I think she does need to exert effort. She is seen working out/training several times. And Isabella says "You're so strong" when they've already lost their powers, which means she actually is really strong even as a "regular" person.
@@LorileeLusby You know what? That's fair actually. XD I guess I forgot those parts. My bad! ^_^;
I dunno if she can turn off her powers or not, but it seems like she does need to exert effort though. She has the muscles to show signs of strength and resistance training, and even when she did not have her powers anymore, we see her being able to move a piano all on her own. I cannot say about her lifting techniques though. I am no weight lifter so.....
her lack of knowing how to lift correctly also explains why she had such a hard time even dragging things across the floor, which she probably could've reasonably done without her power if she had better form
@@LorileeLusbyshe doesn’t need too but she enjoys working out
i dont think the family could recover that fast from mirabel dying, too much blame would be flying around, but i do think they will eventually, but it wont be quick
Have you guys talked about the fact (theory ig, technically) that Abuela had Luisa LITERALLY move a mountain?
When was this?
@@LieutenantByrd At the beginning and end of the movie, when they show what happened to Abuelo, you can see that mountains of the Encanto formed between the river, cutting it out of the Encanto. But at the end of the movie, Mirabel and Abuela go to the river. During Surface Pressure, Luisa says "I move mountains, I move churches" While she's literally moving a church. So I think it shows that she's not just sensationalizing her powers by saying she can move a mountain, but that she literally can and has moved a mountain. I guess it's possible that it's just a different river in the Encanto, but I personally don't think so
@Lauryn I believe it's the Encanto that does that, and I think they ha e a vid about it. The mountain pops up to protect the village (they don't seem to have any contact with the rest of Columbia) but the mountain breaks when the miracle breaks. When the magic comes back, the mountain stays broken as a sign that they've changed and no longer need to be protected in the same way.
One of my favourite theories about this movie is that Dominic Toretto (main character from fast and furious movies) is a long descendent of the Madrigal's and his gift is "family" which makes him immortal so long as he has family.
I love this. ❤ one of my favourite franchises and a fantastic Disney movie... a crossover I never knew I needed
I feel like the people that would die because casita wasn't able to protect them would be: Mirabel, Isabella and Camlio because they are the only ones actively trying to save the candle, everyone else is just trying to protect each other.
I've watched Encanto twice already this week, but I kinda wanna watch it again
Do it!
It's that good of a movie.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I read this in Darth Sidious's voice
The way this theory plays out feels more like a Ghibli or Makoto Shinkai anime than a Disney movie. In that case, I highly suggest you see “In this corner of the world.” They are not the same story, but some of the sentiments in the third act resemble this scenario.
I feel like Pedro had powers and that’s why they were chasing them. Also I think that’s why he decided to sacrifice himself to save everyone else. They never even found his body or had a funeral for him.
Just the daily reminder that Encanto is one of the best movies Disney has ever made
What if Mirabel got bitter with how she was treated and in the argument that broke the candle she out right said Alma doesn't have a gift either why should any of them listen to her.
It's surprising that it was never brought up as an argument.
Day 8 of politely asking the brothers to do a “what if…” Sirius took Harry the night his parents died instead of hagrid and raised him.
I'm fairly sure they already did one of those? Or at the very least someone did
he would have died because no blood protection from his family
@@irishuisman1450 do you know who?
@@bluehairedemon do you mean from the Dursleys?
And if so, Dumbledore might have been able to cast the fidelius charm on where ever Sirius was living
The miracle is you. Take care of yourself like Mirebel did her family. You deserve it.
I could imagine if Mirabel did die if Casita didn't and reach her and who you have to would blame her mother for it and Alma would be will be feeling so much guilt for mistreating Mirabel
I agree. I think Casita isn't an "it", but a "he" a.k.a. Pedro. Congrats on running a marathon!
Wouldn't it be Casito, then?
What If Mirabel touched Antonio's doorknob?
Set-Up: Mirabel walks to Antonio's door, just like in the movie. However instead of Antonio touching his doorknob and getting his gift of speaking to animals, he grabs Mirabel's hand and puts it on his doorknob.
"I would rather risk losing my gift, so Mirabel could have another chance getting one of her own than have her go another day without one."
What would happen then?
Congrats on the marathon! I ran 18 miles yesterday, and I hope to run an organized marathon soon. My feet are still feeling it--the run was across a floodplain over a shallow river, up a steep hill past a small village, and down a gentle hill to the floodplain at a boat ramp.
Abuala talks to Pedro like he is still there because the town are all catholics. The priest makes several appearances in the movie, including when his church is moved.
Catholics believe in eternal life and that you can ask those who have pased to liason with God for you.
Yeah I thought the same when he brought that up, I don't think she's talking to Pedro because she thinks he's the house, I think she was literally just talking to his spirit in the afterlife, because they'd most likely be religious and believe his soul lived on and is in heaven watching over them.
Actual what if video starts at 10:49 ...
Prior to that, it is 8 minutes of talking about everything we already know about the movie and a 2 minute ad break.
Thanks
Encanto 2, mirabells start hearing voices and seeing old ghost of her family, she thinks she turns crazy and runs away, rest of family start to look for her. insert plots of intrest. due to plot mirabel starts to realise that it´s her power awakening beeing able to comunicate with family spirits and realice pedro is the spirit of the house. rest of family is splitting once again due they cant find mirabell until in a hectic event, she pops up to rescue the spliting family once again with help of the spirits of family.
That could be a fast easy pitch for the sequel.
ed. should be bit more bruno beeing one main plot to start searching for mirabel. ( or both bruno and mirabell is running away making rest trying to find both.) Mira is still a main char.
The way I see it is Pedro is the Candle, and Casita(I don't know the spelling) is more like a sibling to Pepa, Julieta, and Bruno, born from the Candle(Pedro) to protect and shelter, because a new town would need shelter too, and I don't think Pedro is Casita because it's a feminine form of house, if they called it Casito, then sure, but that's not the case
Abuela: *about to walk down the stairs*
casita!Abuelo: Don't do it, Mira. It's not worth it.
casita!Mirabel: I'm not gonna do it, I was just thinking about it. *turns the stairs into a slide* I did it.
I actually got emotional during this video. Very well done! I think this is one of my favorite videos of yours now. A part of me wishes this is how the movie actually went. It's heart breaking, but so meaningful. And would rival, or even top, some of the most tear jerking moments of Pixar.
Me too! I'm glad it wasn't just me lol
Question: do we think that, if Julieta became the keeper of the miracle in this scenario, that she would lose her gift?
There are to many heart braking soul destroying fanfics of this concept.
Hmm yes this is exactly what I needed on Revenge of the Fifth an even darker end to a movie that has dark underlying themes on the day named after one of the darkest Star Wars films.
In all seriousness though keep up the great content you guys!
One question that came up for me during this video is this: What's purpose of Camillo's shapeshifting and Antonio's communication with jungle animals (at least at the point when he gets the ability). The communication with jungle animals would've made sense in an older character, like Camillo or Mirabel, as a useful ability to have in the town because it could've still been dangerous to venture in for food but by the time Antonio gets his gift the town seems pretty settled and safe, they have ample access to food or else they wouldn't have nearly as many donkeys as they have people. And Camillo's gift has no application in defence or advancment of the town. However, both their gifts would suit well in espionage and in breaking down enemy defences. But I feel like the miracle/Pedro (who just wants his family safe) wouldn't be overly interested interested in actively undermining the military on the other side of the magical mountains across a river that his family is safe from
The butterflies in Encanto remind me of the butterflies in Bambi 2. In Encanto the yellow/golden butterfly is at the end of Encanto where Mirabel and Abuela reconcile, and Bambi 2 has them when Bambi dreams about his mother. Both films have a yellow/golden butterfly(s). Abuela, Mirabel, and Bambi all make peace with their losses and change for the best, no longer tied to their trauma. I like the repeating symbolism of the yellow butterflies. (Idk if other films/shorts/etc have them or not).
I had a similar what if kind of thought a while ago, but not 'what if mirabel died' but 'what if she'd kept going' when she ran away to the place where Pedro died, what if she had managed to get out and just kept going - so there would be a chance her family could follow her and bring her back. A lot of the same emotional problems you noted here would come up but with the silver lining that Mirabel is still there for them to apologize to lol.
YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TO MAKE ME CRY AT WORK WITH THIS WHAT IF 😭😭😭
I know that the war is based off of an actual war but in movie, I think it was different. Why would Pedro believe that sacrificing himself would stop the soldiers? The only reason I can think of is that the soldiers were after him. My theory is that Pedro had some sort of magic or something that the soldiers wanted to destroy. When he was killed, the magic connected back to his wife and children.
He didn't think it would stop them. He was just buying time.
What if Bruno hadn’t left? This could happen two ways - either he doesn’t let his mother convince him to ask why Mirabel didn’t get a gift, or he just doesn’t leave after that vision. Does he try to hide it? Lie? Break it and throw away the pieces? How does he treat Mirabel?
I mean...I love that you have such an optimistic outlook on the scenario, but honestly I think if Mirabel died during Casita's fall, that would be the absolute straw for Bruno. Guy spent TEN YEARS hidden away in order to give his niece a somewhat normal life. If that was all in vain...I honestly think he would be the first to break. And I wouldn't blame him.
Would it break the family forever? No...I don't think it really will, but it would take a long time.
I've read some canon extending fics where the author allows Bruno to finish what he was starting to say to Alma at the river (often at Alma's own request) and it's always extremely cathartic.
Why isnt this more acknowledged, clever thinking!!
@@lucidfangirl1030 Thanks. There's a bit of pushback from some very good fanfic writers against some other writers who will either a. infantalise Bruno to the point that he can't function at all or b. make him act like a complete saint. He's neither, he's a complex character with both good and bad traits, and I just don't believe he would be instantly ready to forgive his family, specifically Alma, if Mirabel got killed.
I feel like that would have been a great act three for the movie. If they had more money and time that would have been Amazing. Of course it would be sad Mirabel died but we have scene Bambi’s mom die and several other characters die. I just feel Abuela needs to feel that kind of guilt. I also can see the scene with Julietta yelling at Abuela clearly in my mind.
My what if question is, what if padro didn’t die but Abuela did
I started crying when i realised where you were going with that! Wow!
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It’s kind of cute to think that Pedro is close to Mirabel that whole time. Best grandpa 😊
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THE WAR PART IS DARK NOT THE FAMILY TRAMA PART. THERE WORTH SHOW GIFTS. HE’S STILL THERE IN SPIRIT. DON’T LEAVE EACH OTHER, YOU LOVE EACH OTHER. WHAT THEY PROVIDE IT IMPORTANT. IT’S ( JU-LEE-EH-TUH ).
Man this episode had me at tears
There are fanfics out there where the premises of Mirabel dying is explored.
Links?
There are a lot of fanfiction stories on the internet telling this 'What If' story
My only problem with this is that in the story as originally presented, casita comes back to life anyway, which to me means that Pedro was able to still live on, so in your scrnario, with Mirabel as casita, what becomes of Pedro? And why does Mirabel's mom get to be the keeper of the magic *and* have her own gift? But I do like some of your other insigts and thoughts on this, and how it plays into the themes of the movie
Every family member who dies, "goes in" the Casita? So far Pedro is the only one who has, but would be interesting
Yea, could be a greatgrand child instead
18 min video
8:00: here we go
8:30 sponsor
10:45 starting to answer the question the video promised.
I once had a dream about an alternate Encanto ending where Isabela died squished by a boulder in the scene Casita was falling and the Madrigals threw a party
Yeesh and yikes!
@@Mythmasyer4728 Are you laughing? I don't find the idea of the Madrigals partying over a family member's grave funny at all.
I wonder what Bruno and Mirabel would've seen in the vision in Antonio's room if Mirabel were to die. Would the cracks in casita also run through Mirabel's body?
Someone on Tumblr once asked "Why don't men write Fan Fiction?", someone replied, "They do, have you ever seen a What If Video on TH-cam?"
Pedro. Felix. Agustin. Encanto is a demonstration of good fatherhood.
I love your theory’s or situations it something changes.
I've seen Encanto too many times and read some (meaning a lot not too much) fanfics and a few where Pedro is Casita. And ofc we've got our boi Sid the Sloth reincarnated as Bruno.
I saw fanart where mirabel did die when casita fell
Way to make me bawl my eyes out guys! I love this so much ❤
Do you think Mirabel's room changed to a nicer room since her "door" was the whole house?
I've got a what-if scenario for you...
What if Marlin died from the barracuda attack in Finding Nemo?
Coral was the laid-back parent, but after Marlin's death, would she act the same way Marlin does in the main story? Would Nemo even be called Nemo because Marlin only stuck with Marlin Jr. and Coral Jr?
When are we gonna get the next Pixar Theory Recap video🥺
Elemental is coming up in June so maybe they will update the Pixar Theory by July.
Heyyyyy brother! This sounds fun 😊
I've never liked the idea of Pedro being casita mostly because that means he'd have to watch his wife, children and granchildren and every one of his descendants die. I feel like there's only so long before a spirit loses its identity, and eventually Pedro would forget who he is, and simply become a nameless living house, and I find that sad as well.
This would be good to the story, but I still need to say what you've made very clear you know:
What is wrong with you? 😭 why do you think Mirabel should die?
I'm glad the story played out the way it did and Mirabel survived, but this version would also be so beautiful
Given the Catholic influences that Encanto draws on, I would say that Pedro can't *be* Casita, but perhaps could be given the ability miraculously to be able to work through Casita from the afterlife (presumably Heaven).
Love your videos!❤❤
12:41 sounds like an obscurious
Casita was the spirit of the dead husband of the matriarch?
Yep
Indeed!
That's just a theory. A Film Th... no wait. The Film Theorists actually concluded that it wasn't. Ah, whatever, you get the point.
@@SgtSupaman 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought that Pedro was Casita the first time I watched the movie.
Maybe they should make a au movie of this ending
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Nice. Abuela becomes a murderer! But... Pedro would likely still be there to support his daughter and rest of the family so... What about "twin" casitas? Because the new casita would have 2 souls (Pedro and Mirabel) so eventually it could grow and divide so each soul control 1 casita.
Love your videos
Casita owes mirabel a gift
man i love whenb johsef seed is theorizing about my favorite disney films!
Hey Ben & J, why don’t you guys dissect Percy Jackson?
Could you please do one of these what if videos for Pixar?
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What if Idea:
What if Isabella married Mariano?
I doubt that would end well if that happened Isabella doesn't want to marry Mariano so if they did resentment would build up for years without being talked about and Delores would be suffering every day unless she moves on which I doubt.
Stawp I wanna cry this would’ve been so sad 😭
Bruh why did this make me tear up when you talked abt memory living on
I actually teared up.
I’m not crying! You’re crying!
It would be a Disney version of Final Destination kind of
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Why am i crying!!
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Love this.
I agree
This is the first time I am early in one of your video's
If Mirabel Died I Definitely Cry And I Think All The Family Cried And Gets In Depression For Mirabel And Abuela Gets Hated By All The Family
How come Mirabel isn’t a Disney Princess yet?
She was not born royalty, she did not marry royalty, she did not nothing of epic heroics.
@@msk-qp6fn Well, she sort of became Royal after Pedro's sacrifice, because in their secluded community the family Madrigal were some sort of royals, and one could argue that because of her actions the miracle (which made Madrigal's royal in the first place) was saved, so she did perform a heroic action, just not the one we see in Mulan or Moana but a more subtle one... Of course, I do not know about the unmentioned and unofficial but most important rule - How did Encanto perform in the box office? 🤔
@@lindamazule2289Agreed, and the Miracle affects the entire community, not just the family.
Regarding the box office, you'd think it did well enough if only from how popular it is with kids lol. Anyway, according to imdb the worldwide gross is $256,786,742 (budget was about $50,000,000).
@@msk-qp6fn I would say risking your life for your family and community is heroic. So my guess is she’s simply too popular to be a princess. Kinda like with frozen encanto is it’s own franchise so mirabel doesn’t need to be a princess because she can carry a franchise herself