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- Hatice Sultana Sees Red With Rage "YOU CANNOT BE MY EQUAL"
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Sultan Suleiman asks İbrahim Pasha what he talked about with Hürrem. Meanwhile, Lajos's assassination chivalries, who hide in the forest, attack them. One of them targets Sultan Suleiman and shoots him. Malkoçoğlu Bali Bey gets to where attack took place.
Sultana Hatice learns that she is pregnant and doesn't want to inform İbrahim Pasha about it because of her fear of losing her baby again. While Sultana Hatice prays for İbrahim Pasha's return safe and sound, Hürrem prays for him to die.
Gül Aga completely setteles in harem and starts getting up against Sümbül Aga. Gül Aga makes a pass at Nigar Kalfa at the same time. However, the only thing in Nigar Kalfa's mind is to be forgiven by Hürrem. Hürrem asks Gül Aga to find her a new odalisque.
Sultan Suleiman, İbrahim Pasha and Malkoçoğlu Bali Bey unite forces in the camp around Belgrade. The chivalry imprisoned gets questioned in the camp. The chivalry confesses that Lajos is in Tolna which is close to Mohács Plain.
Hürrem suggests Sultana Hatice who is afraid of losing her baby to have her fortune her told. Gül Aga mentions former head of fortune tellers Yakup Efendi who was dismissed from the palace. Yakup Efendi is a soothsayer who has shadowy forces. Sultana Hatice wants Gül Aga to bring Yakup Efendi to the palace secretly.
Gül Aga brings Yakup Efendi to the Marble Mansion in the palace. Yakup Efendi tells Sultana Hatice that she will have a son. He also perceives that Hürrem has a problem. The only thing will solve this problem is blood.
At the age of 26, when he ascended to the throne, Sultan Suleiman aimed to build an empire more powerful than Alexander the Great and to render the Ottomans invincible. Throughout his 46-year reign, he became the greatest warrior and ruler of both East and West.
The young Suleiman received news of his succession to the throne during a hunting party in 1520. Unaware that he would be ruling a reign beyond his dreams, he left behind his wife son and took to the road with his close friend and companion Pargali Ibrahim to reach the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. As they started their journey overland, an Ottoman ship set sail from Crimea in the Black Sea, bringing female slaves as gifts for the Ottoman palace… On this ship was Alexandra La Rossa, the daughter of a Ukrainian Orthodox minister, taken away from her family and sold to the Crimean palace. She had no idea that she would become Hurrem, wife of Sultan Suleiman and mother of princes, ruling the empire with him through bloodshed and intrigue.
As Sultan Suleiman conquered the world, his great passion for Hurrem would clash with his love for and trust in his closest friend and advisor, Grand Vizier Pargali Ibrahim, all set against the backdrop of the tension between Christian Europe and the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century.
Cast: Halit Ergenç, Nebahat Çehre, Meryem Uzerli, Okan Yalabık, Nur Aysan, Selma Ergeç, Sema Keçik, Filiz Ahmet, Selim Bayraktar, Selen Öztürk, Nihan Büyükağaç, Burcu Tuna, Merve Oflaz, Arif Erkin, Ali Uyandıran, Alp Öyken, Murat Tüzün, Doğan Turan, Gökhan Çelebi, Yüksel Ünal.
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Lol even Mahidevran and Gulfem weren't amused when Hatice was yelling that all of them were slaves.
Why would they;
Granted Hurrem should have just keep her silence in topics she doesn't know of (remaining silent in unknown topics does prevent misunderstandings after all) but Hatice overreacted. She could easily explain nicely and calmly that the men who get married to blood sultanas don't get to have harems
That was totally unnecessary on Hatice's part. Especially to Gülfem, who's a loyal friend to her. She is not a better person or a better wife, just because she was born a princess. Mahidevran and Hürrem worked hard for their position - Hatice did not.
eox1144..Yeah...because usually the " slave" slur was used n meant towards hurrem only..mahi devil would sneakily glee abt it😅
Only when she is in the receiving end..she is displeased😮😮
Mahi devil,..A pathetic woman with no morality or what- so- ever....
I love how Hatice erased smile from Mahidevran's face when she called them slaves, not just Hurrem.
I have a soft spot for Hatice. She goes through so much trauma in this series. It all started with her first miscarriage and I believe she had PTSD. She’s genuinely a kind and loving soul and she doesn’t deserve the hate she gets on this channel. But although I don’t like young Hürrem, Hatice was out of line for talking to her that way. Hürrem is an important part of the dynasty and gave Süleyman 3 princes at this point. Hürrem has more impact than Hatice does as a blood sultana.
I quite agree. Hatice is a good person. Pained, misguided, volatile, impulsive, heedless, selfish, inexperienced. But not evil. And unlike her sisters, she's not ambitious. She doesn't wish to rule the harem, much less the state.
Give her a nice home, some competent trustworthy employees to manage her household, a good budget, a husband who can shower her with love, care, respect and attention and a kid or two and she'll be perfectly content
Yes true. A Sultana who gave birth to the Sultans where more Important then the "Princesses". Who really remembers Hatice? She is not a huge Figure in History but the Mothers of the Sultans from Hürrem on everybody knew them.
I lost all respect for her and Gulfem when she stole Nigar's child and told her she died. Yes Nigar was wrong to sleep with Hatice's husband but to steal her child away and then try and put Nigar to death was just disgusting and wrong and I don't care that this took place in another time period. That was wrong
@@BroodyRuby I agree. That thing, as well as the fact that Hatice practically abandoned her own children to focus on her vendetta against Hurrem is something I cannot forgive to Hatice despite the affection I have for her (she reminds me of my late mother)
And do you know what's worse; Deep down, Hatice knew that what she was doing was wrong. You could see her conflicting emotions on her face, when she was about to give the order to seperate Nigar from her daughter.
I really wanted to tell her: "you're venting your righteous anger on the wrong people, Hatice. And you know it."
@@user-ob4sq6fi3s
And she will call that husband one day her slave 😎
Ibrahim is completely a bi*ch in tjis show, but that was wrong even to him
"Take a few concubines. Your palace will be joyful. Ibrahim pasha will like it too. He'll be cheered up in his harem."
Guys, I understand that at that point Hurrem meant no offense. After all, back then she and Hatice were on friendly terms. And certainly Hatice shouldn't have misinterpreted Hurrem's ignorance of the dynamics of dynastic marriages for an insult.
But... don't you think that this fight would have been prevented if Hurrem had simply remained silent in topics she doesn't know of;
I agree. Hatice over reacted. She could of just easily told Hurrem nicely that Ibrahim wasnt allowed to have a harem since he married her. I think Hatice was mentally unstable, with the way she acted through the show
Exactly initially she spoke many things like this just to be thought of as an equal family member, many times it was utterly nonsense she deserves the rebuke by hatice.
@@priyaraman617 exactly. Plus, I don't think that Hurrem would have be very pleased if someone had suggested that to her
@@emilish624 I agree. Hatice overreacted.
As for her mental state...as much as it hurts me to admit it (Hatice reminds me a lot of my late mother) she was volatile, impulsive and emotional.
But it's not her fault. Not entirely. Granted as a grown woman Hatice is responsible for her choices and decisions. But what we saw is the result of her dread of her father (Selim I the Resolute capable, ruthless, arrogant. A terror to his advisors where the tiniest mistake was punishible by death) and the overproduction and indulgence of her mother.
Because of this poor upbringing, Hatice never really had the opportunity to learn, to grow, to mature.
And that's quite sad, because I strongly believe that of all of Suleiman's sisters, Hatice had the greatest potential to be great. She's beautiful, elegant, kind, passionate and intelligent. If she had an upbringing that would have enable her to combine these promising traits with the ability to rely on calculation rather than impulse, how to deal with negative emotions and situations, how to respect other people's feelings, wishes and interests and how to seek what she needs to hear instead of what she'd like to hear, Hatice could and would have been a real powerhouse on Hurrem's side. Far better than Mahidevran, Sah and Fatma combined.
Αυτό. Εδώ αυτή η ίδια νευριάζει και μόνο που σκέφτεται τον Σουλειμαν με άλλες γυναίκες, πώς μπορεί να λέει κάτι τέτοιο σε μια άλλη γυναίκα; 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Thx for adding it. Please more.
I don't understand why hurrem said this to hatice cause if it was the other way around hurrem would have reacted the same way maybe even worse than hatice.
Frankly, I have no idea.
"Take a few concubines. Your palace will be joyful. Ibrahim pasha will like it too. He'll be cheered up in his harem."
I understand that at that point Hurrem meant no offense. After all, back then she and Hatice were on fairly good, friendly terms. And certainly Hatice shouldn't have misinterpreted Hurrem's ignorance of the dynamics of dynastic marriages as an insult.
But... don't you think that this fight would have been prevented if Hurrem had simply remained silent in topics she doesn't know of;
I kind of understand Hürrem. I mean she must accept all this Women in the Harem and fight for Suleyman only wanting her while Hatice can Threaten Ibrahim with Divorce which actually from the Muslim Religion isnt that easy(Ottomans used Islam where thex wanted it). Well in the Last it was Ibrahim cheating on her...
Yep....hurrem would of had a meltdown
@@lindamoore192 yep. Apparently the motto "don't say and do what you wouldn't be said and done to you" isn't known to her.
@@susanneal6063 they are equal and more equal, they all were hypocritic murderers and greedy degenerates.
All of this never took place. A Sultana who gave birth to a prince instantly outranked the princesses (the Sultan's sisters). And because Hürrem gave birth to four princes, she outranked Mahidevran. Actually, in this scene, she's the most high ranking person in the room and NONE of them would have been allowed to speak to her like that. Especially not after Süleyman freed her and married her. She was above all of them.
At this point Hürrem was not freed yet and she wasn't legally the Empress consort.
@@cinna_sultan You're right, not at this point. But they keep talking to her like she's dirt throughout the entire series. That would not have been possible.
@@meryembasar7910
True
Wrong
This is about an islamic reign
You are partially true, but not totally. A Haseki Sultan (Turkish equivalent of empress consort) ranks higher than an Ottoman princess. However regular concubines who birthed sons do not. In real history there was no such thing as a woman giving birth and immediately becoming a sultana. The sultana title was given only to princesses, mothers of the ruling sultan and Hasekis.
So in real history Hurrem as a Haseki Sultan indeed outranked all of Suleiman's sisters and other concubines, but Hatice outranked Mahidevran and Gulfem.
hurrem has pretty eyes. She looks like a red haired godess of fire!
I think hurrem was only being quite frank she meant no offense yet she was insulted by one she thought was her friend
Im not Pro Hürrem but this Scene i was Happy that Hürrem was freed. There is no Justice here between Humans. Hürrem has to accept all the Concubines and Hatice can threaten Ibrahim as she wish.
Oh look, Hatice is throwing a fit again 😅
All of a sudden hurrem got against hatice. Why is she annoying her by taunting about Haram in her palace! B4 that hatice was never against hurrem
Shes been against her many times.
@@katarinasvensson9801 not yet.
"Take a few concubines. Your palace will be joyful. Ibrahim pasha will like it too. He'll be cheered up in his harem."
Guys, I understand that at that point Hurrem meant no offense. After all, back then she and Hatice were on friendly terms. And certainly Hatice shouldn't have misinterpreted Hurrem's ignorance of the dynamics of dynastic marriages for an insult.
But... don't you think that this fight would have been prevented if Hurrem had simply remained silent in topics she doesn't know of;
It's true..even, when she learned that hatice wanted to keep secret about her pregnancy but hurrem opened it she could humbly apologise to hatice as a friend. But, she remained silent and shamelessly started another topic. Hurrem behaved arrogantly. If she had showed a little bit of honour to The SULTAN then, hatice wouldn’t gone against her.
Lol, Hatice was always with her mother and Mahi. When did she ever speak up for Hurrem? You all have a weird understanding what standing with someone means.
A lot of pro-slavery comments here today.
Yes. Like "Mahidevran is just a slave, it's HER fault".
Well, I don't think any of these women signed up for sexual slavery and bearing children only to see them slaughtered
@@nielubieinceli Exactly. And same with Hürrem.
@@hurremsultannss Yes, but I refer to endless insulting of Mahidevran here 😂
Like, yes, I don't like her character, i also don't consider Hürrem as a saint in the show, but c'mon people, they were abducted and litteraly raped!
Hurrem was lucky she felt in love, but no one would ask her anyway.
It's like Shah, who always insults Hürrem with calling her slave (when she is no more, she is a wife of the Sultan).
Shah, guess who made her that slave? Maybe your family?
@@nielubieinceli True. Unfortunately I have seen people make fun of Mahidevran for being a slave. Which is just awful and completely out of line. What the women went through was deeply horrific and traumatising and people make light of it. My original comment was also referring to people saying that Hürrem should just be obedient because she's 'just a slave' as well.
Yeah. The Dynasty members are very blind to their own privilege and entitlement. And Şah in particular can be very classist.
@@nielubieinceli Agreed. Mahidevran deserved her freedom. And also very true about Hatice. She definitely had the attitude of a Dynasty member.
Hurrem is an extremly self centered women. She got against Ibrahim only out of jealousy.
Then she stood against hatice, disclosed her personal matter and made her enemy. So she's like first make any1 her enemy and then kill them!
Well, tbh, Ibrahim was against Hürrem from the start, since he supported Mahidevran
@@nielubieinceli true. But it's not like she had to make Hatice her enemy too
Ibrahim was the one who escalated things in their conflict though. He shouldn't have taken a bratty concubine's jealousy so seriously. Especially in going so far as to do what he did to Leo. Which was honestly completely sick.
@@user-ob4sq6fi3s it wasn't her intention to do this.
@@annanussecke9251 I don't disagree. But by saying things like this, she doesn't help things. If she wanted to stay in Hatice's good graces, she'd have kept her silence about topics she doesn't know of.
Hatice just wait and see. You will realize what it means to face the true dynasty
I understand that at that point Hurrem meant no offense. After all, back then she and Hatice were on friendly terms. And certainly Hatice shouldn't have misinterpreted Hurrem's ignorance of the dynamics of dynastic marriages for an insult.
But... don't you think that this fight would have been prevented if Hurrem had simply remained silent in topics she doesn't know of;
How would have Hurrem reacted if someone else had said something like that to her;
Suleiman married Hurrem she is not a slave. She is the official wife and princess. After marriage Hatice is the wife of just wazire pasha. 😂😂
How dare hatice talk like that
Hatice was a disgrace to the dynasty and even as a woman n finally as a mother she could not keep her words she found out abt Ibrahim's affairs but still was so spinless in front of a so called slave to take a stand for herself she didn't have an ounce of a dignity as a woman after Ibrahim's death she was so full of hate towards hurrem that she didn't care abt her children and did suicide