That would of been 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 especially after that end scene with Chris and weebey talking to each other I would of loved to see there dynamic. I always felt like we didn’t get enough weebey screen time I would of loved to see him on the streets against Marlo’s crew
Simon mentioned that he wished he spent more time on the Latino community in Baltimore. That would have been apart of another season or a longer season 5.
It does make me laugh imagining a season of the Wire briefly feature a Dragon Ballz poster in the background of a Latino household. You know he did his homework if he included that kind of detail.
David Simon once said that any extra season would have had to have come before 4 and 5, as he wanted to end on the media, and both seasons were linked. Healthcare, immigration, prison systems... they would have knocked it out the park whatever they did. Best show ever!
At the times this was set in there was no Baltimore Latino or Hispanic community, Shyt is off the chain now but not then ,at least not in Baltimore,the drug game benefited them and their interest more than any others. 🦉
Season 6 could have focused on a few different topics. As you said, the prison system, healthcare and police brutality. Another aspect could have been the positive & negative effects of gentrification.
I’ve always thought that the 6th season should focus on the prison system. We have such a great dynamic regarding the characters who are in prison. It would also be interesting to follow up on the young boys in season 4. I think that the idea of focusing on immigration so late in the series would have been a stand alone season that wouldn’t have time to tie up loose ends in regards to other plot lines (Carver as the new Colvin, Sydnor as the new McNulty, the boys, Slim Charles running the co-op)
I do think following the paths of the boys from the 4th season would've been a good one. The prison system might have been good but it could've run the risk of being viewed as another OZ type show and people probably would've compared the two. 🤔
I live about 30 minutes north of a large state prison. My city has many residents who are family to or affiates of the convicts. I can tell you that a _lot_ of my county's crime is managed by inmates, from prison. A season of _The Wire_ focused on prison life and business would have been good.
I heard no mention of Slim Charles, who inherited the connections, the corners and became boss. Being a D.C. native his plan was to flood the blocks with his product and Uptown D.C. folks in Baltimore. So a lot of new characters would've been introduced and storylines from there.
The idea I was absolutely *positive* that season 6 was going to be about was healthcare: Obamacare was about kicking in at the time, it could look at how free clinics are run in the city (maybe Bubbles could have gotten a job thereand thrive) and show how free clinics have to turn to be involved in organized crime. Maybe have a B-plot involving a a major hospital worker being jaded at only giving the wealthy proper attention and how only helping a small percentage of people quickly leaves to outbreaks. I was really surprised that that wasn't the planned direction they would've taken the plot. I loved a lot of your personal ideas, particularly the kids becoming cops direction, that was pretty ingenious. Btw, did you ever catch how there were hints that Namond was going to grow up to be another Clay Davis? He even repeats Clay Davis's "I'll take money from anyone giving it away" at one point.
Probably we could have gotten a season with Obamacare and the prison system. Also during Obamas time Guantanamo and human rights abuse in prison was quite relevant during the time
I was thinking they could've given cutty's GF a big role in a season focusing on healthcare due to her being a nurse. Bubbles, the deacon and some of the faces helping during the hamsterdam story plot could pop up too.
An idea for season 6; People living in safer cites and suburbs outside Baltimore city and their perceptions of the crime and poverty happening inside Baltimore. I like your idea about the healthcare and housing aspect’s in The Wire.
I'd say it's dramatic or theatrical like a stage play. Oz isn't the polished "prestige" drama we have grown accustomed to NOWADAYS, but I think it's borderline disrespectful to just call dismiss it as "hamfisted." How would the evolution of the TV landscape changed without Oz?
@@davehan241 I love Oz I’m not disrespecting it but it would get hamfisted at times. Mostly past season 2 it got really bad. Pills that age you? People being murdered and never investigated?
Honestly, there's been a revival in popularity for that season. It rubbed some people the wrong way because they didn't want to meet all these new characters they wanted to focus on the barksdale crew etc Although it did get better ratings than most of the other seasons. But I think with the benefit of hindsight and the ability to stream, season 2 has had a revival. It's probably the most coherent critique of the worst excesses of American capitalism and neoliberalism. David Simon isn't a Marxist but holy s*** he would have been a good one...
I would like to see what made Marlo who he became. A season around Marlo's life from say high school years until the moment we first saw Marlo with Bubbles.
@@jarlborg1531 yes for you and me that's the ultimate win. But Marlo Stanfield didn't care about the money he wanted to be respected on the corners his name to ring out. But that's why they added the seen at the end. To show you his name wasn't his name. And he has to stay away from the corners to keep that 10 million. Watch that last seen again.
What if they brought the kids from season 4 back, and they all replaced the players of the game. Randy becomes prop joe. Michael is the new omar, while Dookie is bubbles. Namond comes back as a cop, with bunnie guiding him to be good police
For me this is how I see what happens to certain characters. Bubbles: drug counselor Lt. Daniels & Pearlman get married Marlo & officer Colicchio catch a bullet Michael becomes Omar Randy becomes Cheese Dukie becomes Bubbles Brianna Barksdale becomes the Godmother with Slim Charles as her right hand man.
The Wire is the best show ever made. Problem is that The Sopranos is the best show ever made. So, here's the deal, we think of them as a bookends for our society. The Sopranos is the O.G. because it basically portrays the mafia at the end of it's real power. We get flashbacks and find out how the mafia in America originated. It also showed the business world in a macro sense and shows how business and government are a type of organized crime. This means The Sopranos are about the big picture. The Wire, is also about organize crime, but it's a micro-examination of the small time gangster from the street upward. It also has a macro theme, but the plots are small and local. If you want to understand how the two shows are the same thing but seen from a different perspective. It's like when you look through a telescope. If you're looking through the little lens, you get the big picture and see things far away. However, The Wire, is like looking through the wrong end and you see only a tiny, scaled down version of reality. The Sopranos and The Wire are the Yin Yan of the gangster world. They compliment each other and if you understand one, then this gives you an insight into the other. Have a nice day. Fight real crime, stop voting in elections. Stop being a consumer. Your products are your vice, and your hooked. The corp. mafia owns you.
The only problem with a "Prison Perspective" season... Or even a "Healthcare" season... Where would the wiretap fit in? The show is called "The Wire" afterall.
An impressive amount of people get in trouble for what they say in prison. Even and especially including on jail phone records, despite all calls literally repeating they're being recorded every couple minutes... Overall it wouldn't be a lot different than outside crime. Same for healthcare since there's plenty of crime and definitely addiction there.
@@whateverwhatever4026 I ask again... Where would the wiretap fit in? In a FEDERAL penetentary, surrounded by law enforcement, where the phones and inmates are already monitored, how do you create an entire season based on "wiretapping" a prison? You don't lol
@@VANIT_E First, I just gave you an example that could work, and you repeated it back at me, with emphasis/caps lock on the word "federal" for less than no reason, and then acted like you disproved something. Where's a wire tap usually fit into a school? You're not even trying to think about it at all, when there ALREADY is a "wire" and they already have went to prison in the show because it's all connected anyway. I guess they could go out of their way to do undercover shenanigans for people like you who need something to be as literal as possible, for a word that's not even in the actual title, but it's already right there without your stipulations...Ffs, it IS the exact same thing already. How did you even watch the show when wiretapping was rarely the actual focus? You're not even thinking about it and just want to be right lololz
@@whateverwhatever4026 i mean since David Simon wanted to set the next season about Immigration, you could use the healthcare side as a b plot of the consequences of gang wars/coming to work on the healthcare field and how some of them were working with international cartels and here we have our wiretap case. It could work since Cuttys girlfriend works at a hospital and he is friendly with Carver.
A prequel on Prop Joe would be nice. See how he build his empire. How he brought Cheese along. Even show how randy was made and who his mom is. Give a little more background on the others in the co op.
@@harriscarson4207 yes very good, its not the wire, it plays out like a documentary, great acted, just like the corner this is a great companion piece to the wire.
I like to see season 6 set in the present, with Avon finally being released bc his new lawyers finally showed some that McNulty and BPD did some unlawful things to catch his organization…. Avon who name still rings out in Baltimore bc he is a Barksdale and the “King stays the king”…. Marlowe is all but forgotten bc he wasn’t on top that long
I know it sounds crazy, but hear me out. Method Man back in season 6 as Cheese twin brother trying figure out what happened to Cheese. He was locked up this whole time. I know it sounds Cheesy (no pun... maybe that can be his name on the show). Cheesy acts and dresses just like the old Cheese. Sopranos proved twice that the twin brother trope can work. On the final episode Cheesy gets shot also by Slim Charles, and Slim says 'I hope they were not triplets.
We know Prop Joe does have another nephew out there named Drac who we met in Season 3. It’s possible he may have other nephews and even nieces. I think a twin could work if they pull it off right.
The next wire season should be about all the ppl who made it thru the drig era & how the streets is now compared to how things are now! How ppl used to be popular around the hood & how ppl are popular now days!
The Sopranos final and extended season suffered from having too much time and too little to do other than wrap up the series. The Wire's final and shortened season on the other hand had so much more to cover and too little time to do it.
The prison system idea would have been weird for them to do as they already done The oz The corner was also a cool short series they did prior to the wire
Gentrification. Rich hipsters buying up the fancy new condos they built in the grain elevator Frank was trying to save, stealing Stringer Bell's real estate holdings build Restoration Hardware showrooms, buying H from the corner kids after their Oxy prescriptions run out, and giving the BPD a hard time about Bubbles hanging out in their neighborhoods. The Hospital idea would be epic too.
How Stringer set up B&B when Avon gets out he's set for life on money and assets. Stringer was legitimately buying up property in his and Avon's name. Seeing Avon life after prison after everything that happened and how did he adjust being that he's just a gangster I suppose. Watching Ziggy,Wee Bey,Chris, White Mike,Bird and Boris in prison would've been a good written show
A season looking broadly at the ground level of the entertainment industry, how up and coming rappers, sportsstars, etc. are enticed to associate themselves with players of the game. How if you play it clean you will be without support before you make it big, but if you accept the association, and make it, you have to pay during your stardom.
Ziggy wouldn’t be no bitch, he might be runty but he’s wild. Once the initial shock wore off he’d be right in the mix getting into and causing trouble.
It was in its infancy at the time of the show, but if they were to continue today with a 6th season I'd say the theme should be social media and how it plays a part in so many criminal cases as it relates to a wiretap being traced thru social media from smart phones
I think we sort of got our Season 6 with the miniseries "We Own This City". Somebody mentioned that if you think about it, the Cops featured in the series were likely trained by the Hercs and Carvers of "The Wire" Era. EDIT - Nevermind, you brought up the show.
Season 6 ahould be a flash Forward to present day. Avon gets paroled and wants he corners back. Problem is, Slim , the Greeks and the CO Op ain't in a sharing mood. What they don't know is Avon has a new fentynol connect. Carver is Chief of detectives. Poot is public school crisis counselor. Cutty is city council, now. Chief Daniels is now Judge Daniels. Bubbles, now runs Narcs anon. Presbo is campaigning for the Mayor's office.
My season six explores the prison industrial complex; private prisons & their role in cheap labor & laws that encourage recidivism; Avon's struggle to maintain his power base against ever increasing Hispanic gangs & his relationship with the Greeks through Slim Charles, & how the Barksdale family's struggles persist. Plenty of rich materials to mine from
The Wire was perfect. Any additional season would be a rehash of everything you’ve seen, which I believe the characters (Mike being like Omar, Slim getting the crown, etc.) & some plots proved. The cycle continues, “the game is the game”, you know where things are headed based off what the show displayed.
There is actually an answer to this question. The shows creator said that if he had continued the show or had a spin off it would have focused more on the political side of things and probably followed the new Mayor of Baltimore and is campaign to become governor of Maryland
Randy wouldn’t be *Bodie* .. Randy would be *Prop Joe* incarnate (you forget about his business acumen) w/ the viciousness of *Marlo* (growing up in the system like Marlo & Chris) .. he definitely would be on top
They were setting up a possible season about healthcare (and maybe college) by having the same nurse appear in 4 and 5, and also Colvin's brief intersection with the university in 3. Johns Hopkins is a huge deal in Baltimore, even though it's obviously far removed from the streets.
I think it would be great to have a bunch of mini movies about back stories, maybe 10-15 minutes, to answer questions a lot of fans like myself have. Go into how Chris became the killer he is, Marlo's life after the game, what Daniels was up to in the eastern, etc. I think that would be great.
My thoughts are the 6th season should have centered around the Healthcare/Hospitals relationship with the community, Law enforcement and correction systems. The gun violence, drugs, the patience, both from the streets, as well as from the correctional institutions.
For me The Wire Season 4 is where the show ended. I personally consider season 5 an epilogue because I've seen the show 3 or 4 times now but have never been able to get through the first few episodes of season 5. It just doesn't feel like The Wire and with how season 4 ended, it felt like a solid conclusion with a slim glimmer of hope with Michael at Colvin's house watching donut neatly miss an accident as he drives a stolen car through a stop sign. I'll probably watch season 5 this time around but I don't think it'll change my stance on it
Wow. You missed out on the war between Omar and Marlo. Young Michael’s rise. Young Dookies fall. The bullshit stories from the media by ambitious journalist. Mcnulty and Freemon’s made up serial killer. Prop Joe’s betrayal. Damn son you missed alot LOL
I recall David Simon mentioned the idea of Immigration as a potential Season Six. Wendell Pierce (Bunk) mentioned that he had suggested a season on the healthcare. Jamie Hector (Marlo) said he would have loved to see one about gun trafficking. So there was no shortage of ideas between the creator and a couple of prominent cast members. All of those ideas are great!
What I really wanted the Wire to do was to continue another 5 season set in a different city. I kbow its based on Baltimore but I thought it could be an incredible to see what the breakdown of a city like New Orleans, Houston, Oakland or Chicago would look like
Tbqh whilst I do know the wire is specifically a study of baltimore, I also see it as a study of America in general. You can basically copy and paste most of the assets of baltimore portrayed in the wire in most American cities.
season 6 of the wire will be focused on avon getting out of jail then using his clout as a former druglord to start a podcast called "Droppin' Gems" or something (after doing a bunch of vladtv interviews) and do ads for hello fresh and stuff on his podcast as a metaphor for selling drugs and selling stupid consumer bullshit being analogous etc.
It would’ve been interesting to see the Hispanic Gangs and how they related to the Black Gangs. Maybe we can see where they can get their product from. A rival supplier to The Greeks. I wish they went through with that.
They should show the Prison system Chris locked up weebay from the inside still controlling the outside. While Marlo came back and has had to start up form the beginning would be cool to bring in 50 cent as Malos cousin or something from New York. As mike now became the new Omar and Kenard has unfinished beef with Mike as he roles with Marlo's people trying to take out Mike any chance he can as he's the next Chris now. Randy becomes a police officer as Dukie becomes the new bubble's and Namond becomes a school professor helping students away from the life of crime. Donut owns a washed stolen car part from..
I think it could be dope to see it back out a little further and show how state and federal politicians are so totally owned by the private prison industry, how pharmaceutical companies helped put a lotta the Bubbles on those corners and keep treatment behind a paywall, how the military industrial complex has led to the extreme militarization of local PDs and Sheriffs departments which has led to greater brutality and a shift in the perspective of law enforcement, how your social status and money directly correlate with successfully completing rehab and staying sober, how decisions mde by politicians and cutting funds leads to worse social services (think of Randy's situation, why no one intervened in Michael or Dukes, etc), less social programs to help people get their lives back together (having food stamps, Medicaid, etc, can be the difference for people tryna get sober, getting outta prison, tryna stop slingin, etc), less healthcare meaning less drug rehab, more pain, etc, worse prison conditions, no re-entry programs, etc, etc, etc, that lead to the so much of this unnecessarily being cyclical and diseases of despair spreading like cancer. Baltimore is the main character but ya can't really understand it without understanding how all that and more impacts the situation there. The only real issue is showing the sheer number of factors at play would take forever. I get why they skipped the gun part as important of a part as it is. It's pretty boring and you'd get half an episode out of it. Most are from thefts from homes, cars, gun retailers, etc, and maybe the rare theft from an actual manufacturer or manufacturer's shipment, straw purchases where somebody in need of cash that doesn't have a felony record can buy guns legally and pass em off to the people paying for em after the fact (how many people in a place like Baltimore where so many people are poor, addicts, or both would jump at the chance?) or somebody does it to pay down a debt (Cheese coulda had Ziggy do that), maybe some Greeks type characters smuggle guns in but it's honestly redundant and extremely difficult (it's actually using snagging guns outta the US, not in), and not many other ways that it happens, almost none are big, sexy numbers that make for good TV, most guns were legally purchased initially, etc. It's just a slow trickle from a number of typically legit places that add up over time.
I was thinking the Prison System would've been good. Watching how former enemies like Chris/Avon/WeeBey may have to become allies considering they are from West Baltimore.
The Wire never got the credit it truely deserved until season 5. And I only think it got that because it was known the show was ending after the season. But I loved the whole show. It's one that is studied in tv writing and directing cause it's so great. A true modern masterpiece
I would have loved to see how Avon stayed King and made moves even behind bars. I thought in an interview, Wood Harris hinted that David Simon considered exploring this but Wood himself wasn't feeling it and would not have mind if they killed his character off at one point. Anyhow, one of my favorite moments was when Marlo visited Jessup and who shows up to see him? Avon!
The next season should be how much prison politics inside the prison dictate the streets once the big shots are locked in there. Most times don't nothing change. They still going to be that guy, but it should definitely be based off the prison system also because that coincides with everything the wire has involved themselves with thus far including politics
I leave it up to the writers to surprise me, which they've done 5 times already..these guys are pros and geniuses who write about what they know and are passionate about and take the time to research their topic.. I grew to appreciate season 2 and 5 tremendously. They just caught me off guard the first viewing, but they're really good, I think, especially 2
Prison system could've been real cool. The legal system through the perspective of lawyers through a big trial could've worked or the healthcare system in the midst of a recession. However, I truly think had season been given one or two more episodes to fully close its story, I don't think we would've gotten that insane serial killer story at all.
I wish we got to learn more about the Dominicans, and I think one of the most underrated and Under discussed aspects of the wire was Roberto and the New York connect. I love the short but incredibly interesting storyline of how they cut off the Barksdale’s bc of Avons short sentence. I always felt that that storyline ended prematurely and that there should’ve been more to that. That would’ve been another natural way to bring in brother. Mouzone Also. That would’ve been a great way to bring him back in season three instead of him just showing up in the storyline after he was relatively forgotten. His story seemed irrelevant, even though it did become integral in season three..
Huge fan of your analysis and integrity. You posed a question for me that I think could make for an interesting video. At 4:10 you mention the failings of prequel movie attempts. Could you actually do an in depth analysis to as why specifically the Star Wars prequels are so much worse than the original episodes because I actually never got why those movies are so hated. Maybe the makings of a casual fan of the series but idk. I feel like you could really put the reasonings to why prequels fail at a great perspective
Season 6 should be Avon getting released on a technicality, the Co-op putting a price on Marlo, the return of Brother Mazone, , Michael robbing Co-op members
There's so much material to do 6 seasons for another Wire since after Freddie Gray. With the murder rate out of control, 300+ murders before October, the GTTF scandal and its aftermath, the police department struggling with the federal consent decree, and 2 mayors end up being federally indicted. Soo much easy material.
Personally if they have a season 6 it be great to see what happened to McNulty what happened to him I love that idea him becoming a private detective making a good decent amount of money like $2,750.00 a week $11k a month $132k a year so basically making good money but still investigating murders but not current murders only Cold cases him investigation of old murders covered up by the cops and old rivals gangsters and it leads back to one P.C. and all the way to city hall itself
It wouldn’t be that far off since the wire lives in the same universe as Homicide life on the streets, which has crossover characters from Law and Order. So technically…. Clearly the Wire is far superior. And I dig some of the ideas. Especially the brother Muzon.
The one area the show never really unpacked but felt like it was leading there was a season on the courts and lawyers. So much of that money and oiling of the system was done by the lawyers.
Maybe if they could find a way to cover the breaking of the family structure. That would be an interesting avenue to follow, especially since you saw pieces of it already with various kids. But if they focused solely on that it would be possible to one or two families being destroyed by the circumstances around them.
Many people misunderstood The many Saints of Newark. It wasn't really a prequel of the Sopranos. Its the story of Dicky Moltesanti. I thought it deserved more credit. Moltesanti translated is Many Saints....Moltesanti of Newark.
There is so many ways the series could have went. I like every idea you proposed. I would like to see the prison system. I would have like to see how prescription drugs is abuse and how they make it into the streets from corrupt through crooked doctors and pharmacy. Also I would like to see how the streets would react to the government legalizing drugs. I would like to see if anyone ever found out about Rawls secret life. The Brother Mouzone show would have been fire. How he a hired gun working for all of the gangs and mafia. I mean there is so many ways.
Everything u said after "Prison System" would've been a brilliant main or sub plot to what could've been a spectacular prison season of the Wire..EVERYTHING u said.
I definitely think a season about immigration and the tension between gangs from Baltimore and with immigrant gangs like Mexican and Haitian moving in would be great. Staying focused on the hustlers more than the police would be something I would like to see.
I feel like the best answer would be the hospital/health care system... including more of the coroner’s office. A season about the prisons might draw too many comparison with Oz.
A season set in the prison system would've been awesome
With Avon, Weebay, and Chris running the joint.
@@LouieOcean2 Exactly.
@@LouieOcean2 Oz is pretty over the top and not very realistic tho
@@levvy16 yeah that’s true still an entertaining show tho
That would of been 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 especially after that end scene with Chris and weebey talking to each other I would of loved to see there dynamic. I always felt like we didn’t get enough weebey screen time I would of loved to see him on the streets against Marlo’s crew
The wire is a masterpiece.
F yeah
Best show ever made without question
Simon mentioned that he wished he spent more time on the Latino community in Baltimore. That would have been apart of another season or a longer season 5.
It does make me laugh imagining a season of the Wire briefly feature a Dragon Ballz poster in the background of a Latino household. You know he did his homework if he included that kind of detail.
Yeah that's right I think I saw that interview, you said really the only thing left that was really unexplored was the immigrant / Latino community.
@@ringkunmoriwell there was a Dragon Ball Z drawing in Season 4
🙄🤦🏾♂️
It was fine as is, no need for unnecessary and forced inclusion.
David Simon once said that any extra season would have had to have come before 4 and 5, as he wanted to end on the media, and both seasons were linked. Healthcare, immigration, prison systems... they would have knocked it out the park whatever they did. Best show ever!
At the times this was set in there was no Baltimore Latino or Hispanic community, Shyt is off the chain now but not then ,at least not in Baltimore,the drug game benefited them and their interest more than any others. 🦉
Season 6 could have focused on a few different topics. As you said, the prison system, healthcare and police brutality. Another aspect could have been the positive & negative effects of gentrification.
Yea and how Crowcheck and the other developers take advantage of it
I’ve always thought that the 6th season should focus on the prison system. We have such a great dynamic regarding the characters who are in prison. It would also be interesting to follow up on the young boys in season 4. I think that the idea of focusing on immigration so late in the series would have been a stand alone season that wouldn’t have time to tie up loose ends in regards to other plot lines (Carver as the new Colvin, Sydnor as the new McNulty, the boys, Slim Charles running the co-op)
I do think following the paths of the boys from the 4th season would've been a good one. The prison system might have been good but it could've run the risk of being viewed as another OZ type show and people probably would've compared the two. 🤔
I live about 30 minutes north of a large state prison. My city has many residents who are family to or affiates of the convicts.
I can tell you that a _lot_ of my county's crime is managed by inmates, from prison. A season of _The Wire_ focused on prison life and business would have been good.
Probably Michael as the new Omar would be the centerpiece.
Follows dokie as well as the new bubbz
The only possibility that Michael is still living would be that he's incarcerated or he left Baltimore.
I love how it ended with everything coming full circle.
Wow my thoughts exactly
Avon would be the new Cutty
Mannnnnn, that prequel movie would've been MONEY if done right
I heard no mention of Slim Charles, who inherited the connections, the corners and became boss. Being a D.C. native his plan was to flood the blocks with his product and Uptown D.C. folks in Baltimore. So a lot of new characters would've been introduced and storylines from there.
The idea I was absolutely *positive* that season 6 was going to be about was healthcare: Obamacare was about kicking in at the time, it could look at how free clinics are run in the city (maybe Bubbles could have gotten a job thereand thrive) and show how free clinics have to turn to be involved in organized crime. Maybe have a B-plot involving a a major hospital worker being jaded at only giving the wealthy proper attention and how only helping a small percentage of people quickly leaves to outbreaks. I was really surprised that that wasn't the planned direction they would've taken the plot.
I loved a lot of your personal ideas, particularly the kids becoming cops direction, that was pretty ingenious. Btw, did you ever catch how there were hints that Namond was going to grow up to be another Clay Davis? He even repeats Clay Davis's "I'll take money from anyone giving it away" at one point.
Probably we could have gotten a season with Obamacare and the prison system. Also during Obamas time Guantanamo and human rights abuse in prison was quite relevant during the time
I was thinking they could've given cutty's GF a big role in a season focusing on healthcare due to her being a nurse. Bubbles, the deacon and some of the faces helping during the hamsterdam story plot could pop up too.
@@sethranson264 I didn't mention it, but I was thinking of that as well.
An idea for season 6;
People living in safer cites and suburbs outside Baltimore city and their perceptions of the crime and poverty happening inside Baltimore.
I like your idea about the healthcare and housing aspect’s in The Wire.
I would love a prison season of the Wire. It would be like the first season of Oz but less hamfisted drama.
And less rape
I'd say it's dramatic or theatrical like a stage play. Oz isn't the polished "prestige" drama we have grown accustomed to NOWADAYS, but I think it's borderline disrespectful to just call dismiss it as "hamfisted." How would the evolution of the TV landscape changed without Oz?
@@davehan241 I love Oz I’m not disrespecting it but it would get hamfisted at times. Mostly past season 2 it got really bad. Pills that age you? People being murdered and never investigated?
@@berserk4souls I would say convoluted not hamfisted.
@@berserk4soulsthe aging pill, then housing the Chinese in a maximum security prison, that's when it jumped the shark and got very cartoonish.
I do not get the hate for season 2. It's the one I rewatched the most.
It's become a rote line, so everyone just copies it even if they don't agree.
i agree i loved season 2 as well. most underrated season
I don't even see hate anymore, everybody just calls it underrated
I honestly didn't like Season 4 much
Honestly, there's been a revival in popularity for that season. It rubbed some people the wrong way because they didn't want to meet all these new characters they wanted to focus on the barksdale crew etc
Although it did get better ratings than most of the other seasons. But I think with the benefit of hindsight and the ability to stream, season 2 has had a revival. It's probably the most coherent critique of the worst excesses of American capitalism and neoliberalism.
David Simon isn't a Marxist but holy s*** he would have been a good one...
Would have liked to see how life went for Marlo after winning the game.
They could’ve done that over the course of a season in 1-5 minute scenes throughout. Would’ve been cool too.
I would like to see what made Marlo who he became. A season around Marlo's life from say high school years until the moment we first saw Marlo with Bubbles.
You must not be a true wire fan if you really think Marlo won.🤔
@@qisque8713 Alive and well, $10mill in an offshore account, out of the game with no charges. I'd call that a win.
@@jarlborg1531 yes for you and me that's the ultimate win. But Marlo Stanfield didn't care about the money he wanted to be respected on the corners his name to ring out. But that's why they added the seen at the end. To show you his name wasn't his name. And he has to stay away from the corners to keep that 10 million. Watch that last seen again.
8:11. HBO already did a show for that concept called “Oz.”
its pretty good too
@zacharyb2723 oz lacks the realism and careful storytelling though. I like it but how many murders without consequences can one prison have?
@@benjaminarias4467 A lot of prisons have unsolved murders.
What if they brought the kids from season 4 back, and they all replaced the players of the game. Randy becomes prop joe. Michael is the new omar, while Dookie is bubbles. Namond comes back as a cop, with bunnie guiding him to be good police
For me this is how I see what happens to certain characters.
Bubbles: drug counselor
Lt. Daniels & Pearlman get married
Marlo & officer Colicchio catch a bullet
Michael becomes Omar
Randy becomes Cheese
Dukie becomes Bubbles
Brianna Barksdale becomes the Godmother with Slim Charles as her right hand man.
I would totally be into a noir spinoff called McNulty P.I.
The Wire is the best show ever made. Problem is that The Sopranos is the best show ever made. So, here's the deal, we think of them as a bookends for our society. The Sopranos is the O.G. because it basically portrays the mafia at the end of it's real power. We get flashbacks and find out how the mafia in America originated. It also showed the business world in a macro sense and shows how business and government are a type of organized crime. This means The Sopranos are about the big picture. The Wire, is also about organize crime, but it's a micro-examination of the small time gangster from the street upward. It also has a macro theme, but the plots are small and local. If you want to understand how the two shows are the same thing but seen from a different perspective. It's like when you look through a telescope. If you're looking through the little lens, you get the big picture and see things far away. However, The Wire, is like looking through the wrong end and you see only a tiny, scaled down version of reality. The Sopranos and The Wire are the Yin Yan of the gangster world. They compliment each other and if you understand one, then this gives you an insight into the other. Have a nice day. Fight real crime, stop voting in elections. Stop being a consumer. Your products are your vice, and your hooked. The corp. mafia owns you.
The only problem with a "Prison Perspective" season... Or even a "Healthcare" season... Where would the wiretap fit in? The show is called "The Wire" afterall.
Probably people in the health care field are working together with local drug Lords and are abusing Obamacare to get the stuff???
An impressive amount of people get in trouble for what they say in prison. Even and especially including on jail phone records, despite all calls literally repeating they're being recorded every couple minutes... Overall it wouldn't be a lot different than outside crime. Same for healthcare since there's plenty of crime and definitely addiction there.
@@whateverwhatever4026 I ask again... Where would the wiretap fit in? In a FEDERAL penetentary, surrounded by law enforcement, where the phones and inmates are already monitored, how do you create an entire season based on "wiretapping" a prison? You don't lol
@@VANIT_E First, I just gave you an example that could work, and you repeated it back at me, with emphasis/caps lock on the word "federal" for less than no reason, and then acted like you disproved something. Where's a wire tap usually fit into a school? You're not even trying to think about it at all, when there ALREADY is a "wire" and they already have went to prison in the show because it's all connected anyway. I guess they could go out of their way to do undercover shenanigans for people like you who need something to be as literal as possible, for a word that's not even in the actual title, but it's already right there without your stipulations...Ffs, it IS the exact same thing already. How did you even watch the show when wiretapping was rarely the actual focus? You're not even thinking about it and just want to be right lololz
@@whateverwhatever4026 i mean since David Simon wanted to set the next season about Immigration, you could use the healthcare side as a b plot of the consequences of gang wars/coming to work on the healthcare field and how some of them were working with international cartels and here we have our wiretap case. It could work since Cuttys girlfriend works at a hospital and he is friendly with Carver.
That scene of Weebey and Chris was among my favorite from the entire season. Such a cool shot.
A prequel on Prop Joe would be nice. See how he build his empire. How he brought Cheese along. Even show how randy was made and who his mom is. Give a little more background on the others in the co op.
we own the city is the closest we going to get to a season 6
Is it good for real ?
@@harriscarson4207 yes very good, its not the wire, it plays out like a documentary, great acted, just like the corner this is a great companion piece to the wire.
@@sethbrundels Yeaa , thanks I appreciate that, ima give it a watch, does it look it’s Gonna be a another season or just the one ?
Marlo playing a Detective was a trip
@@harriscarson4207 some ppl really hate jon bernthal and he's pretty much the lead actor in the miniseries, so that may color your opinion
Maybe a time line that links the Wire to Top Boy, through Stringer untold background.
First scene gotta be Avon at the release gate with D’Angelo voice saying the king is always the king
I like to see season 6 set in the present, with Avon finally being released bc his new lawyers finally showed some that McNulty and BPD did some unlawful things to catch his organization…. Avon who name still rings out in Baltimore bc he is a Barksdale and the “King stays the king”…. Marlowe is all but forgotten bc he wasn’t on top that long
I know it sounds crazy, but hear me out.
Method Man back in season 6 as Cheese twin brother trying figure out what happened to Cheese. He was locked up this whole time.
I know it sounds Cheesy (no pun... maybe that can be his name on the show).
Cheesy acts and dresses just like the old Cheese.
Sopranos proved twice that the twin brother trope can work.
On the final episode Cheesy gets shot also by Slim Charles, and Slim says 'I hope they were not triplets.
We know Prop Joe does have another nephew out there named Drac who we met in Season 3. It’s possible he may have other nephews and even nieces.
I think a twin could work if they pull it off right.
The only problem is that anybody related to Cheese with an IQ above 30 would figure out how he ended up long before it happened.
Ahhhhh I see you got the ol Marked for death one liner in there when Segal kills Screwface
The next wire season should be about all the ppl who made it thru the drig era & how the streets is now compared to how things are now! How ppl used to be popular around the hood & how ppl are popular now days!
I think the show ended at the right time. A lot of shows start to lose their edge after 5 seasons. And The Wire finished on top.
The Sopranos final and extended season suffered from having too much time and too little to do other than wrap up the series. The Wire's final and shortened season on the other hand had so much more to cover and too little time to do it.
The prison system idea would have been weird for them to do as they already done The oz
The corner was also a cool short series they did prior to the wire
I do like the meta ending with McNulty starting the wire but only as like a final scene not season
Gentrification. Rich hipsters buying up the fancy new condos they built in the grain elevator Frank was trying to save, stealing Stringer Bell's real estate holdings build Restoration Hardware showrooms, buying H from the corner kids after their Oxy prescriptions run out, and giving the BPD a hard time about Bubbles hanging out in their neighborhoods. The Hospital idea would be epic too.
and the outrage of $19 sandwiches...
I just found out about the prequels I want to see Avon and Stringer coming up
How Stringer set up B&B when Avon gets out he's set for life on money and assets. Stringer was legitimately buying up property in his and Avon's name. Seeing Avon life after prison after everything that happened and how did he adjust being that he's just a gangster I suppose.
Watching Ziggy,Wee Bey,Chris, White Mike,Bird and Boris in prison would've been a good written show
Avon still Holding it Down and Michael is now the Guy on the Block
A season looking broadly at the ground level of the entertainment industry, how up and coming rappers, sportsstars, etc. are enticed to associate themselves with players of the game. How if you play it clean you will be without support before you make it big, but if you accept the association, and make it, you have to pay during your stardom.
I like that idea.
Ziggy wouldn’t be no bitch, he might be runty but he’s wild. Once the initial shock wore off he’d be right in the mix getting into and causing trouble.
@mreece4407: You don’t know that for sure!
It was in its infancy at the time of the show, but if they were to continue today with a 6th season I'd say the theme should be social media and how it plays a part in so many criminal cases as it relates to a wiretap being traced thru social media from smart phones
That was basically what season 5 was, except it was just media back then
I finish this Series, My Favourite TV Show of all times.
I think it would be about Avon pulling string from inside. I mean look how he put the battery in Marlo's back for him to take himself out the game.
I think we sort of got our Season 6 with the miniseries "We Own This City". Somebody mentioned that if you think about it, the Cops featured in the series were likely trained by the Hercs and Carvers of "The Wire" Era.
EDIT - Nevermind, you brought up the show.
Season 6 ahould be a flash Forward to present day. Avon gets paroled and wants he corners back. Problem is, Slim , the Greeks and the CO Op ain't in a sharing mood. What they don't know is Avon has a new fentynol connect. Carver is Chief of detectives. Poot is public school crisis counselor. Cutty is city council, now. Chief Daniels is now Judge Daniels. Bubbles, now runs Narcs anon. Presbo is campaigning for the Mayor's office.
Marlo is in the music industry but still has ties to the underworld through that.
I like that but the actor who played Daniels is dead now unfortunately
My season six explores the prison industrial complex; private prisons & their role in cheap labor & laws that encourage recidivism; Avon's struggle to maintain his power base against ever increasing Hispanic gangs & his relationship with the Greeks through Slim Charles, & how the Barksdale family's struggles persist. Plenty of rich materials to mine from
Season should focus on Marlo rise back to the top and Micheal being the new person robbing people
That's too repetitive we already saw Marlo's in season 3
The Wire was perfect. Any additional season would be a rehash of everything you’ve seen, which I believe the characters (Mike being like Omar, Slim getting the crown, etc.) & some plots proved. The cycle continues, “the game is the game”, you know where things are headed based off what the show displayed.
Always thought provinkjing a quality analysis with your videos, quailty edits too. The Terror season one would be a good one to do.
There is actually an answer to this question. The shows creator said that if he had continued the show or had a spin off it would have focused more on the political side of things and probably followed the new Mayor of Baltimore and is campaign to become governor of Maryland
The final season seemed to be "We own this City"
We Own This City is the wire if everyone were season 5 McNaulty, which apparently BCPD is.
I really feel that it is a spiritual season 6..
We own this,city is it's own show,Stop comparing to the wire
@@xxbobsetsfirexx4269 it's not
Randy wouldn’t be *Bodie* .. Randy would be *Prop Joe* incarnate (you forget about his business acumen) w/ the viciousness of *Marlo* (growing up in the system like Marlo & Chris) .. he definitely would be on top
They were setting up a possible season about healthcare (and maybe college) by having the same nurse appear in 4 and 5, and also Colvin's brief intersection with the university in 3. Johns Hopkins is a huge deal in Baltimore, even though it's obviously far removed from the streets.
I thought “we own this city” was the 6th season of the wire.
Nah that was a true story.
I think it would be great to have a bunch of mini movies about back stories, maybe 10-15 minutes, to answer questions a lot of fans like myself have. Go into how Chris became the killer he is, Marlo's life after the game, what Daniels was up to in the eastern, etc. I think that would be great.
I could honestly see The Wire coming back, all the characters who didn't die on the show are still alive in real life so it's definitely possible.
My thoughts are the 6th season should have centered around the Healthcare/Hospitals relationship with the community, Law enforcement and correction systems. The gun violence, drugs, the patience, both from the streets, as well as from the correctional institutions.
For me The Wire Season 4 is where the show ended. I personally consider season 5 an epilogue because I've seen the show 3 or 4 times now but have never been able to get through the first few episodes of season 5. It just doesn't feel like The Wire and with how season 4 ended, it felt like a solid conclusion with a slim glimmer of hope with Michael at Colvin's house watching donut neatly miss an accident as he drives a stolen car through a stop sign. I'll probably watch season 5 this time around but I don't think it'll change my stance on it
Wow. You missed out on the war between Omar and Marlo. Young Michael’s rise. Young Dookies fall. The bullshit stories from the media by ambitious journalist. Mcnulty and Freemon’s made up serial killer. Prop Joe’s betrayal. Damn son you missed alot LOL
I recall David Simon mentioned the idea of Immigration as a potential Season Six.
Wendell Pierce (Bunk) mentioned that he had suggested a season on the healthcare. Jamie Hector (Marlo) said he would have loved to see one about gun trafficking.
So there was no shortage of ideas between the creator and a couple of prominent cast members.
All of those ideas are great!
What I really wanted the Wire to do was to continue another 5 season set in a different city. I kbow its based on Baltimore but I thought it could be an incredible to see what the breakdown of a city like New Orleans, Houston, Oakland or Chicago would look like
Tbqh whilst I do know the wire is specifically a study of baltimore, I also see it as a study of America in general. You can basically copy and paste most of the assets of baltimore portrayed in the wire in most American cities.
season 6 of the wire will be focused on avon getting out of jail then using his clout as a former druglord to start a podcast called "Droppin' Gems" or something (after doing a bunch of vladtv interviews) and do ads for hello fresh and stuff on his podcast as a metaphor for selling drugs and selling stupid consumer bullshit being analogous etc.
It would’ve been interesting to see the Hispanic Gangs and how they related to the Black Gangs. Maybe we can see where they can get their product from. A rival supplier to The Greeks.
I wish they went through with that.
They should show the Prison system Chris locked up weebay from the inside still controlling the outside. While Marlo came back and has had to start up form the beginning would be cool to bring in 50 cent as Malos cousin or something from New York. As mike now became the new Omar and Kenard has unfinished beef with Mike as he roles with Marlo's people trying to take out Mike any chance he can as he's the next Chris now. Randy becomes a police officer as Dukie becomes the new bubble's and Namond becomes a school professor helping students away from the life of crime. Donut owns a washed stolen car part from..
At first I couldn’t get into the season 2 port thing. But after finishing the series and going back to 2, everything just tied in nicely.
I think it could be dope to see it back out a little further and show how state and federal politicians are so totally owned by the private prison industry, how pharmaceutical companies helped put a lotta the Bubbles on those corners and keep treatment behind a paywall, how the military industrial complex has led to the extreme militarization of local PDs and Sheriffs departments which has led to greater brutality and a shift in the perspective of law enforcement, how your social status and money directly correlate with successfully completing rehab and staying sober, how decisions mde by politicians and cutting funds leads to worse social services (think of Randy's situation, why no one intervened in Michael or Dukes, etc), less social programs to help people get their lives back together (having food stamps, Medicaid, etc, can be the difference for people tryna get sober, getting outta prison, tryna stop slingin, etc), less healthcare meaning less drug rehab, more pain, etc, worse prison conditions, no re-entry programs, etc, etc, etc, that lead to the so much of this unnecessarily being cyclical and diseases of despair spreading like cancer. Baltimore is the main character but ya can't really understand it without understanding how all that and more impacts the situation there. The only real issue is showing the sheer number of factors at play would take forever.
I get why they skipped the gun part as important of a part as it is. It's pretty boring and you'd get half an episode out of it. Most are from thefts from homes, cars, gun retailers, etc, and maybe the rare theft from an actual manufacturer or manufacturer's shipment, straw purchases where somebody in need of cash that doesn't have a felony record can buy guns legally and pass em off to the people paying for em after the fact (how many people in a place like Baltimore where so many people are poor, addicts, or both would jump at the chance?) or somebody does it to pay down a debt (Cheese coulda had Ziggy do that), maybe some Greeks type characters smuggle guns in but it's honestly redundant and extremely difficult (it's actually using snagging guns outta the US, not in), and not many other ways that it happens, almost none are big, sexy numbers that make for good TV, most guns were legally purchased initially, etc. It's just a slow trickle from a number of typically legit places that add up over time.
I was thinking the Prison System would've been good. Watching how former enemies like Chris/Avon/WeeBey may have to become allies considering they are from West Baltimore.
The Wire never got the credit it truely deserved until season 5. And I only think it got that because it was known the show was ending after the season. But I loved the whole show. It's one that is studied in tv writing and directing cause it's so great. A true modern masterpiece
I would have loved to see how Avon stayed King and made moves even behind bars. I thought in an interview, Wood Harris hinted that David Simon considered exploring this but Wood himself wasn't feeling it and would not have mind if they killed his character off at one point. Anyhow, one of my favorite moments was when Marlo visited Jessup and who shows up to see him? Avon!
Thing is....another cat just like Marlo would show up and challenge Avon and his empire in the prison.
There's always a challenger.🤷
@@johnpenley Of course, Avon was trying to school Stringer on this, "There's always gonna be a Marlo."
it should be an entire season showing everything that happened offscreen. wallaces move, the greeks migrating etc
The next season should be how much prison politics inside the prison dictate the streets once the big shots are locked in there. Most times don't nothing change. They still going to be that guy, but it should definitely be based off the prison system also because that coincides with everything the wire has involved themselves with thus far including politics
I leave it up to the writers to surprise me, which they've done 5 times already..these guys are pros and geniuses who write about what they know and are passionate about and take the time to research their topic..
I grew to appreciate season 2 and 5 tremendously. They just caught me off guard the first viewing, but they're really good, I think, especially 2
There's already a season about The Prison System. It's a HBO series called "Oz" have so many The Wire actors in it
if i recall, though Marlo was arrested, he was never convicted.....also a multi-millionaire...let's say Marlo's new hustle is Baltimore politics..
We need another 3-6 seasons!!!
Prison system could've been real cool. The legal system through the perspective of lawyers through a big trial could've worked or the healthcare system in the midst of a recession. However, I truly think had season been given one or two more episodes to fully close its story, I don't think we would've gotten that insane serial killer story at all.
I like these ideas, they’re very grounded and respect the analytical aspects of the show.
Fun fact- Dominic West “the actor who played Mcnulty” also did an opening skit on Eminem’s “Relapse” album.
I wish we got to learn more about the Dominicans, and I think one of the most underrated and Under discussed aspects of the wire was Roberto and the New York connect. I love the short but incredibly interesting storyline of how they cut off the Barksdale’s bc of Avons short sentence. I always felt that that storyline ended prematurely and that there should’ve been more to that. That would’ve been another natural way to bring in brother. Mouzone Also. That would’ve been a great way to bring him back in season three instead of him just showing up in the storyline after he was relatively forgotten. His story seemed irrelevant, even though it did become integral in season three..
Huge fan of your analysis and integrity. You posed a question for me that I think could make for an interesting video. At 4:10 you mention the failings of prequel movie attempts. Could you actually do an in depth analysis to as why specifically the Star Wars prequels are so much worse than the original episodes because I actually never got why those movies are so hated. Maybe the makings of a casual fan of the series but idk. I feel like you could really put the reasonings to why prequels fail at a great perspective
Season 6 should be Avon getting released on a technicality, the Co-op putting a price on Marlo, the return of Brother Mazone, , Michael robbing Co-op members
There's so much material to do 6 seasons for another Wire since after Freddie Gray. With the murder rate out of control, 300+ murders before October, the GTTF scandal and its aftermath, the police department struggling with the federal consent decree, and 2 mayors end up being federally indicted. Soo much easy material.
Season 6 should start with the kid who killed Omar getting out of prison as a older man and showing how the game has changed since he been locked up
David Simon said there was really only one potential option for a season 6 and it would have been to focus on the immigrant community..
Was late to watching the wire. Finished the show a few months back. Good shit
Personally if they have a season 6 it be great to see what happened to McNulty what happened to him I love that idea him becoming a private detective making a good decent amount of money like $2,750.00 a week $11k a month $132k a year so basically making good money but still investigating murders but not current murders only Cold cases him investigation of old murders covered up by the cops and old rivals gangsters and it leads back to one P.C. and all the way to city hall itself
It wouldn’t be that far off since the wire lives in the same universe as Homicide life on the streets, which has crossover characters from Law and Order. So technically…. Clearly the Wire is far superior. And I dig some of the ideas. Especially the brother Muzon.
I wanted to see Mike and his bunch move into the big guys on the block.
Wait, people don’t like season 2? That was my favourite season!
Is David Simon's series on the Spanish Civil War still a thing?
The one area the show never really unpacked but felt like it was leading there was a season on the courts and lawyers. So much of that money and oiling of the system was done by the lawyers.
Maybe if they could find a way to cover the breaking of the family structure. That would be an interesting avenue to follow, especially since you saw pieces of it already with various kids. But if they focused solely on that it would be possible to one or two families being destroyed by the circumstances around them.
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The pre-cursor of The Wire was The Corner, which I much preferred.
Many people misunderstood The many Saints of Newark. It wasn't really a prequel of the Sopranos. Its the story of Dicky Moltesanti. I thought it deserved more credit. Moltesanti translated is Many Saints....Moltesanti of Newark.
Scott Templeton being outed and homeless is one brilliant idea. Talk about cosmic justice man.
I love to see a spinoff of Shorty Boyd and how he cleaned his whole Ack up
Better call Brother is such a dope concept. I wish that had happened
There is so many ways the series could have went. I like every idea you proposed. I would like to see the prison system. I would have like to see how prescription drugs is abuse and how they make it into the streets from corrupt through crooked doctors and pharmacy. Also I would like to see how the streets would react to the government legalizing drugs. I would like to see if anyone ever found out about Rawls secret life. The Brother Mouzone show would have been fire. How he a hired gun working for all of the gangs and mafia. I mean there is so many ways.
Everything u said after "Prison System" would've been a brilliant main or sub plot to what could've been a spectacular prison season of the Wire..EVERYTHING u said.
I definitely think a season about immigration and the tension between gangs from Baltimore and with immigrant gangs like Mexican and Haitian moving in would be great. Staying focused on the hustlers more than the police would be something I would like to see.
I feel like the best answer would be the hospital/health care system... including more of the coroner’s office.
A season about the prisons might draw too many comparison with Oz.