C-17 Halo Jump
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- C-17 halo jump w/ Fairchild AFB Survival Specialists. I'm the loadmaster doing the filming.
BELOW ARE THE REGULATIONS USAF C-17 AIRCREWS ABIDE BY.
Airdrops conducted from above 3,000 feet AGL to 25,000 feet MSL, are considered high altitude deliveries.
NOTE •The aircraft is not designed to depressurize and conduct routine airdrops above FL 250. MAJCOM approval is required.
T.O. 1C-17A-1-4, page 2-112, para 2-152
HALO are jumps made with an exit altitude of UP TO 35,000 feet MSL and a parachute deployment altitude at or BELOW 6,000 feet AGL. HAHO are jumps made with an exit altitude of up to 35,000 feet MSL and a parachute deployment altitude at or ABOVE 6,000 feet AGL.
Field Manual FM 3-05.211 (FM 31-19) Special Forces MFF Operations April 2005
Oxygen info:
A continuous supply of 100% oxygen will be used by all aircrew personnel during unpressurized operations above 10,000 feet MSL. Parachutists may operate without supplemental oxygen during unpressurized flights up to 13,000 feet MSL provided time above 10,000 MSL does not exceed 30 minutes each sortie. Jumpmasters may operate without supplemental oxygen for an additional 60 minutes within the 10,000 to 13,000 foot envelope provided their duties during this period do not include jumping. Parachutists will transfer from the aircraft oxygen system to their personal oxygen system at approximately one minute before green light.
T.O. 1C-17A-1-4, page 2-112, para 2-161 - บันเทิง
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Nice, clear video!!! I love the way they just wave and "jump'!!! A bit different than a bunch of guys attached to lines!
Thanks for the video!
Thats what HALO is like 3 minutes of heart pounding fun and an hour of waiting.
I think these guys are relaxed and enjoying their jobs...what a way to go to work...Blue Skies!!!
If I had to be an enlisted soldier Loadmaster is the only way to go. That is by far the best job. My friend is a Loadmaster at McChord and I've seen reservist work more than him (sarcasm). We water skied all summer and on the rare times when he works it involves flying to Spain, Guam, Germany and touring the world while playing board games in the back of the plane.
My son is one of the jumpers in this film. It is a standard MC-4 at 370 sq. ft. I used one to train in. It is a monster but very gentle to land, at least w/o equipment and mild wind.
They often jump them with 60+ lb of gear. My height/weight w/o gear made it perfect.
Is he still a paratrooper?
He was SERE, not a paratrooper. He was USAF. He retired a couple of years ago after 20 in service. He still jumps though and did three just the other day in SC. I had to stop jumping for medical reasons and I still miss jumping with him. @@herkload
thats gotta be the damn cleanest aircraft i ever saw anybody jump from.
Great video.thank you Jumpmaster
Yes, they are wearing a variant of the HGU-55/P helmet, it's called the Gentex GO-22/ Parachutists helmet. It's cut different for better vision, has comm hook-ups on either side, and has protective covers over the bayonet fittings for the oxygen mask. They are jumping Paraflite MC-4 container systems, the model that replaced the MT-1X containers.
Thanks for serving your country. I can't wait till I'm 18 and I can join the USAF. I hope I can fly C-5s or possibly an AC-130 Spectre gunship... Oh well... Only 3 more years...
Awesome! I'm hoping to get a loadmaster contract! Looks awesome
Lets not argue about oxygen or what type of jump it is. What's important is that people are willing to jump out of planes at high altitudes in order to protect us so we can continue to argue with each other on youtube...
Good upload regardless of what anyone says. I just love it when people make negative comments on something they have no clue about.
this is probably the most amazing thing u can do in the military... nothing else can top HALO freefall
I agree blud
I miss seeing your B52's flying over Spokane..I wouldn't mind the noise of those everyday flying around my neck of the woods..
very informative description
Thanks!
thanks for the info
A rigger is a groud-pounder that fits the chute and EQUIPMENT to the load to be dropped. A loadmaster rigs the load to the AIRCRAFT, flies with the aircraft and drops the load (so to speak).
Funny. That's the Jumpmaster and he's spotting for their jump. It best to leave the plane at the right spot. Helps eliminate the walk back.
I wasn't in the Air Force but the Army. I can tell you one draw back. It is FREEZING when they open that ramp. Especially above 20000ft.
The Loadmaster is correct. HALO is what normal skydiving is without a static line, or just basically free falling. Movies have brainwashed us into thinking HALO is 25,000ft jumps. Oxygen jumps are a type of HALO jump. Unfortunately I spent a lot of time researching this. Loadmaster, correct me if I'm wrong.
The following are two basic types of MFF (Military Free-Fall) Operations: High-altitude low-opening (HALO) operations are jumps made with an exit altitude of up to 35,000 feet mean sea level (MSL) and a parachute deployment altitude at or BELOW 6,000 feet above ground level (AGL). High-altitude high opening (HAHO) are jumps made with an exit altitude of up to 35,000 feet mean sea level (MSL) and a parachute deployment altitude at or ABOVE 6,000 feet above ground level (AGL).
If you are not jumping static line it is HALO (High Altitude Low Opening) meaning you jump out and there is some form of free fall involved.
HAHO is High Altitude High Opening, meaning as long as you pull your rip coord above 6,000 feet it is considered a HAHO because there is some time spent undercanapy and winds will have a larger impact on your fall.
A normal US military HALO without oxygen is around 12,500 ft above MSL.
Anything above 13,999 ft MSL and an Oxygen rig is required.
Its a figure of speech that all airdrop aircrews use. But thanks for the thoughtful insight.
oooh tailgate from a C-17!!! sounds fun wish I could do it!!!!
Sounds right, I know a retired SEAL who didn't use O2 for his training HALO jump. Then again, this was one of the first SEALS groups...
@Paradude54 Thanks for helping people understand that real life is not the way Hollywood portrays it. Oh, and aircrew (at least C-130s and C-17s) have to have oxygen at 10K ft + MSL.
We drop either static line jumpers ar military free fall (MFF). MFF is practiced in only one of 2 ways: HALO or HAHO. We need oxygen at 10,000 feet plus. Look at the loadmaster on o2 vs. the jumpers. I'll just say that that jump was considered a HALO jump.
C-17's are used for SpecOp insertions because they can fly higher, further and faster than C-130's. So even though it's a lot of plane for such a small team to jump from, it's worth it, when needed.
I realize this is just a training jump after another mission was conducted....just relating why C-17's are used for actual operational jumps.
Yeah, when I went to Joint Airdrop Inspection school, there were a few Marines in the rigging school next to us. In fact one or two of the instructors at the Army rigging school were Marines.
You answered your own question. I needed the training for my aircrew (loadmaster) currency.
I went to airborne school in 2005, not only were there about 6 Marine Recon guys going through the school, there were also Air Force too. Its run by the army, but it s a joint service school
Are you still in the military?
Best bit 30 min of pure oxy b4 a REAL HALO BUZZahh
HALO stands for High Altitude Low Opening thats why the guy at the door was using oxygen where they will jump from between 25 000 and 30 000 ft and open at about 1 500ft above the ground while when you do normal skydiving you jump from about 12 500ft and open at 3 500ft
Good video, dude. Solid resources to back you up. I don't know why people who don't know shit on a topic search for youtube vids, and then make inflammatory comments on that topic. Makes no sense.
Keep on serving brotha!
I got so caught up in this HALO argument, i forgot about HAHO.
awesome! 13k is as far as i've been so far... Would love to do a HALO in the US sometime!
Actually my son is one of these jumpers in the video. He is SERE and currently an MFFI. I believe they were all SERE guys on this jump, but not sure. I think he said the exit was around 12.5 to 13 on this one.
Yes, that is true for crewmembers. Not always true for jumpers. But has nothing to do with your statement that "all HALO jumps must have supplemental oxygen". You can perform a HALO jump as low as 3,000 feet.
@lifesaver198 good info
@ilvg612 Aerospace Physiologists (male or female) can also go to Military Free Fall, they are the ones who are in the aircraft during very high altitude jumps (taking care of oxygen / equipment / etc...)
@tizit88 No, they dont have to jump in normal situations. But we are expected to be able to jump during emergencies that require it.
You've got some cheek for a guy who hasn't uploaded any videos. I thought it was pretty cool watching them exit from the back of that flying cave, beats a skyvan any day. You could launch a bigway from just one of those. So, no need to be an ass about it, this video is unique and beats yet another tandem video.
So much better than static line. -_-
Our jump WAS at high altitude. In order for it to be considered a "high altitude" drop, the drop needs to occur above 3K ft.
@ilvg612... Also another option is Navy. I'm an Aircrew Survival Equipmentman (also known as PR or Parachute Rigger). Navy riggers can also get slots to Airborne school, with a follow on to EOD Rigger school and get orders to Naval Special Warfare Units, EOD units, and a host of other jump billets. Especially if you can get orders to a Naval Special Warfare Unit Group, you can find yourself fast tracked to getting AFF or Accelerated Free Fall school (ie HALO). Hope this helps. :)
Oh just saw your comment now mil5606 sorry. Still looks fun. :)
Elevation for Gunnison, Colorado: 7,700 ft (2,347 m).
you told me to look it up!!
When I joined the AirForce, #1 on my dreamsheet was to be a loadmaster. The AF made me a bomb loader instead. BTW, on your video description, you've called your self a load"mater". Just thought I'd let you know. Cool vid, though.
HALO are jumps made with an exit altitude of up to 35,000 feet MSL and a parachute deployment altitude at or BELOW 6,000 feet AGL. HAHO are jumps made with an exit altitude of up to 35,000 feet MSL and a parachute deployment altitude at or ABOVE 6,000 feet AGL.
Field Manual FM 3-05.211 (FM 31-19) Special Forces MFF Operations April 2005
Don't forget about HOHO jumps,
H.igh A.ltitude H.igh .O.pening
Generally done at 25,000 feet
Not sure what happened to my post here. Anyhow, yes I was describing a HAHO. Mid 30s exit, mid teens opening, 10-15 minutes under canopy. 1200' is the lowest opening altitude I know of (HALO)to open canopy above land. Water openings can be a crazy adventure.
But yes, HALO = 6k or less, HAHO 6k+
@Skydiver139
10,000 is the regulation height for USAF C-17 aircrew members.
@ilvg612 Not a stupid question at all. In the Air Force the only people that I know that can get HALO school slots are special forces type dudes such as: Combat Controllers, Combat Weather, TAC-P, and maybe Pararescue. Those specialties are all male only. Then you got the SERE guys (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) and they can also get HALO qualified. And that specialty is NOT limited to only males. So if u become a SERE specialist n get lucky enough to get a HALO school slot, then YES.
@Picapacapopo SERE instructors usually are not on the battlefield (from what I know). I have NEVER met a SERE instructor that didn't love their job. I don't know how often they have to jump, I'm guessing, once every 3-6 months to maintain proficiency and the extra pay. Not all of them are HALO qualified tho. There are limited number of class dates available for HALO training. If you are outdoorsy, then you will/should love the job. Good luck.
@TheBurritoTaco HALO jumps are almost always Special Forces regardless of branch. Marine Recon, "Green Berets", Rangers, Para-Rescue...it doesn't matter. You have some "normal" paratroopers who have HALO wings and not in SF but it is really hard to get a slot in the school if your not a SF type of paratrooper.
@mil5606 These are USAF SERE Specialists, NOT survival specialists, and YES they are on the battlefield, they support Personnel Recovery operations in every AOR
I needed an O2 mask, because we were at 10K & I am a crewmember. The jumpers were OK to jump without em at that altitude.
As far as the emerg chute...IDK.
@pipika2 They jumped around 10,000 ft. or about 3,048 metros (meters).
I was a parachute rigger in the army, we had lots of marines come through our rigging school. ask a recruiter.
@cqql
thats cool. I'm just telling you what the regs say for someone jumping out one of my aircraft. Be safe.
Well it is in Air Ops 'parlance' called a 'knees in the breeze' and they could possibly be practicing non contact rel work as they might do at night in full gear, this is done usually after a days 'proper training, All Spec Ops blokes do this to wind down..I did a lot of them
@ Livin2 Lol... Mil 5606 is a hydraulic fluid... Red in color petroleum based
@ilvg612 There has only been one AF female to ever go to HALO school. She was a USAF SERE Specialist.
@mil5606 Do you know if it hurts to release your parachute? It looks like it just jerks you up!
@simpsonsrules1994 I know what HALO stands for. A jumper jumps at a high altitude and opens his/her chute at a low altitude. Military regs (which I am well versed on) are very specific on what is considered high altitude and what is considered low altitude for chute opening. Military regs are also very specific on when a certin altitude requires oxygen. Two different regs. Once again prove that a HALO requires oxygen. Dont worry I'll wait....
@milton1872 HALO as in the military stands for high altitude low opening thats why the guy at the door was using oxygen
@danieleriver This is the second part of a big jump. We had a plane full of static line soldiers before this jump.
Ok, makes sense
@hoops814 where did you learn that definition of HALO?
@rcoil84 just recon detachment and LRS of rangers do it, and yes you do need oxigen mask for halo jumps above 15,000
is there any differance btw the guys that were in the blue and the ones that were in green?
those are some huge beast sized containers! What size of canopy are they flying?
What the heck? They just jumped out of a perfectly good aircraft! hehe
^ The joke that my stepdad keeps saying about people who skydives/performs halo jumps
Since we have so many experts on here. What is the LOWEST jumop altitude for a jump to be considered a HALO jump?
@Quadrant14
I spent some time workin MH-53's in Mildenhall, thanks for your service. Yeah, its prolly not a HALO drop according to YOUR regulations.
Its easy. The video title AND description explains it all. Nothing to think about.
We were at a lil over 10,000 ft MSL. At that altitude (10K plus), the AIRCREW requires oxy, but paratroopers do not. The definition of a HALO jump is in the vid description. A HALO jump can be made from only 3,000ft MSL and still be considered a HALO. And I would NOT have to be on oxy for that.
30K is a very rare jump altitude, and probably reserved for a real world insertion. And not regular training. My aircraft cant even open up its doors at anything higher than FL 250 without higher headquarters approval.
ok so on what jumps do they use oxigen? i've seen dutch SF doin' HALO with ox. these guys dont.
@Richland112 The jumpmaster DID jump. All jumpers jumped. The only people that stayed behind was me and the other loadmaster.
Yes
I added some more info about the O2 requirements on the info panel.
@stallionmouse
What are their battlefield duties? I know they work at the JPRC and assist with recovery of personnel, but they ARE NOT on the helicopter with the extraction team.
Def a HALO, thanks for serving man. And great vid. What I'm curious about- why are Survival Specialits MFF quald? I know AF sends TACPs,CCTs,PJs, and SOWTs to yuma, but SERE instructors? Enlightent me
Nice!
Now I want to see 102 troopers jump out, cargo/ramp door only!
How high up were you guys? 10K ft MSL?
In 1989 in Pretoria, South Africa, which is 4500 feet AMSL, I did a jump from a military C130 from 14000 feet AGL, WITHOUT OXYGEN, so no, 10 000 is not the regulation height...internationally its is 12000 according to my sources but in SA it used to be Oxygen above 18000 AMSL...so yes, probably I should have used oxygen...but did not and I am still around.:-)
Even if I wasn't on oxy, it can still be considered a HALO as long as we're above 3k ft.
@mil5606 Thanks!!
Dude I have faith in you. You could totally do it. If you have the balls to jump out of a plane then you could do this.
I used to be an aircraft mechanic on B-52's, B-1B's, C-130's and Pave Low Helicopters before I became a C-17 loadmaster. Google my name to find out what it means. Hydro mechanics already know.
@shoobee101
I personally have never seen a full combat gear HALO jump. And I think you'll find it hard to find another vid of HALO in full gear. The guys that do these jumps are usually "high speed" type of guys that do their own thing. In other words they dont have that commander on their backs telling them what to wear.
@Paradude54 So do loadmasters have to go through jump training then? And they get to jump during the training? I'm getting more and more sure that what I want to do is loadmaster, and even if I don't get to jump hardly ever, I want to do it at least once in my military career. IDK it's just one of those things.
I'm only referring to the definition as per our regs. And the altitude we need to be at to log a HALO jump.
The moment I would have jumped, I would need new pants....
tell me the difference between halo and haho and what are they
@popacap21 I used to be an aircraft mechanic...hydro tech to be exact.
Mainly oxygen. low cerebral perfusion of blood would occur if your feet were pointed at the ground, like you were standing.
sounds like u are describing a HAHO jump (parachute deployment above 6K MSL)
not fake, the rear door touches the ground when the aircraft in on the ground. you can clearly see blue skys out the back