BMW & Mini UK invited me down to try a few of their latest models, after trying the exciting Mini Cooper S Works 210, I figured it would be good to jump straight into the BMW M240i and compare them back to back.
Joe Achilles Awesome video joe as always!!! 👌 Seriously considering getting an M240i, do you know what service costs etc are like for this car? And mph? (Town driving) 😉😂
Really better than an M2? I cannot see this car beating the M2 TBH, after driving my 6-speed M2 for only 1900km I'm totally in love, one of the best things is the sound it makes when you lift of the throttle at 5000rpm+, it's addictive.
I had an M135i and now have an M240i. What no one talks about is how good the views are compared to the 4 & 5 series which I recently drove. In the 4 & 5 the all around visibility is not as good as the M240i. You feel like you are surrounded by glass and have lots of light in the 2 series where the bigger cars feel more enclosed. I can confirm the car is rapid. Even I forget sometimes just how quick the car is until I put it in sports plus and hit the back roads.
Got mine last weekend (Esterol blue) . I agree, you can feel the greater mass and the ride is a little rigid compared to my previous 220D. I'm bedding the engine in slowly because it's new, although some will say you don't need to with modern cars. The new LCI display and I drive are a great improvement.
Hi Joe, this is actually the first video of yours that I've seen but my godness the quality of production and the way you present is amazing. Keep up the good work
I've been tossing up between the Audi RS3 sedan and an M2 for a while. Haven't checked out the Audi yet. But I did walk into a BMW dealership yesterday. They had the M2 there but not the M240i. Let me tell you videos and photos don't do any cars justice. When I saw the M2 up close and personal it really is magnificent. Looks slick and mean. And with almost a muscle car vibe to it. It almost intimated me. The interior was beautiful aswell, however I feel for these reasons I think I'm gonna end up with the M240i. Not because of the price difference. Just the fact that I'm 30 years old and don't really want a car that turns heads. A car that says look at me. I got an M2. I don't really care about others think. I love cars and I'll buy a car for me, not for other people's attention. the M2 does that. I'm sure when I test drive it I'm going to be astonished by it. However I want the best of both world's. Something comfortable and relaxing as a daily driver, and the option to put in in sport mode with the ride stiffening up, and then driving like a dickhead. From all these reviews the M240i does just that. Ticks more boxes for me. Also being much more understated than the M2 is good. I know I'll lose some performance, however I'm not a track day guy. So having a car like an M2 which is essentially geared for tracks just doesn't seem to be worth it for me. Can't wait to get my new car. It will most likely be the M240i. Unless when I test drive the Audi I'm blown away by it. Audi just worries me. I here alot of stories with reliability of them. Even my mechanic told me to steer clear of Audi, they can be a nightmare. And that's something I really can't ignore.
Another enjoyable review - again for me, questioning the wisdom of shelling out for an M2. And Porsche 718 engineers - that's how a sports car should sound. Marvellous.
I really want an m240i, but I want it with the M performance package, including the more aggressive front bumper, rear LSD, M sport exhaust, and nicer wheels. It's a hell of a package... Very hard to find!
I have a 2017 M240i and thoroughly enjoy it everyday. I like the interior of mine with the analog instrument cluster and the entire dash set up for that matter than the look of the new 2018. Which one do you prefer if you had the choice between the two?
Great review again Joe. Picked my m240i up last week, coming from m235i. My new car feels to ride much better than the 235. Not sure if that is solely down to the adaptive suspension in the 240 that I specced (my old 235 had passive). I specced the adaptive this time round thanks partly to your reviews of the 240, so a big thank you for that. The engine in the 240 has so much more umph due to more torque in the B58 engine. It really flies! Gone manual again, and I love the slick gear box.
Is it weird that I watch your videos of driving an M240i in order to avoid putting miles on my new one and still get a bit of a fix? While all good, this one is my favorite because it has my color scheme. Cognac and White. I have xDrive though. Living in the Northeast US its a must for a daily. Your videos are, by far, the best of the bunch for this model. Like your M2 and M140i videos too. Keep up the excellent work.
What do you think about the 228i? They are really rare here in germany, because they almost cost the same as 235i with some extras and m package.. I only drove a 225d yet, but i think a petrol would be more fun :)
Great vid, but if you are using it as a daily drive, the most important option (in my opinion) is the pronav, worth the money for sure, Busnav is a bit rubbish and year 2010.
Terrific video. Can't wait for mine beeing delivered in early december. I literally watched every M240 video there is. Twice... Doesn't make the wait any better though. :)
Hi Joe - loving some of these videos but need your opinion. I currently have a Golf R and love it but they've dropped the three door option and also the manual gearbox so I'm toying with a BMW from the 2 series range. Here's the dilemma - an M2 manual from late 2016 with a manual and the M performance exhaust amongst other options or a nearly new M240i M Performance (one of 750 I believe!) with even more options and the 8 speed box? Both are pretty similar on price but I'm in something of a dilemma - you've driven both so I'd be interested on your opinion. Thanks!
Right then Joe, I've had my M240i for 1 year (in November) but i'm thinking of upgrading to an M2 - what's you opinion? - I've watched your M240i / M2 comparison video but that's over a year ago I think
If you 240 has adaptive it will be the better daily, the M2 is no quicker in a straight line, everywhere else it is a better car though... Hard descision!
Gabriel Flores can't fit passengers in a TT. Corvette built for US roads also drinks fuel like its 50p a gallon (in GB it's about £1.20 for a quarter of a gallon) thanks for your opinion!
Hi Joe, Great collection of videos. Would you be able to get together a M235i and M3 (E92 - 4.0 V8) and do a back to back comparison with a "hypothetical" which would you spend your money on? I'm considering between the two, as a 2nd car for fun. And consideration of Noise, handling, DCT vs ZF, looks (especially the interior), "newer vs older with more miles", depreciation, running costs- tax, ins, services, etc. All factors for that bang for your buck (over a good few years). Price around £23-25k. Be great to see what you could put together and get your feedback and thoughts in a video. Cheers, Justin
Hi Joe, this BMW M240i looked mighty quick doing 35mph when you launched it from a stand still my iPhone 7 must be faulty bloody Apple as I can see from your driving your always keeping to the speed limit even though the revs sounds high and the engine is ready to pop a piston BMW make 35mph sound more like 70mph but ye Joe a very good quick video So as ever Best wishes Alan B.
"I'm breaking the speed limit, I'd never do that" - *BULLSHIT* 😂 You Mr Achilles, are fooling no-one LOL. Back to the M240i though, it's a cracking car in its own right, and a worthy alternative if you can't quite afford the full-fat M2.
What about getting one in a manual? I'm on the verge of getting one of these but I've always always love a manual gearbox.. I know the high end sports cars must have a sport semi auto gearbox.. will this car feel any different at all in a manual?
@@jamesdaggett20 just got one in the zf8 imo for a car that has so much potential in power the auto is so much better. Definitely was hesitant in leaving manual for a auto but definitely not as bad as I though
Not in this generation due to lack of packaging space for RHD and xDrive setup with the 3.0 lump, the next generation 1 and 2 series M lites will be xDrive only I believe.
Great video Joe. Loving these cars, but the prices are mental. With the costs of living increasing and the low pay scales across the board you see more and more new cars out there. PCP deals seem to be the standard these days, this might a big issue for us as a nation. You go into parts of Europe and the case is so different! Sorry of topic there.
rubbish with the 40k limit they have now. Cant get a decent spec including a pro nav so have to leave it out. went for HK, heated seats, PDC front and rear ( live in a city ) and mineral grey. to get a pro nav meant taking away the HK and heated seats for just a slightly bigger screen
Lovely car, not too sure about the interior colour 🤢 I am considering upgrading my M135i to the M240 in the near future. Currently have the manual but would love to change to the auto. I've always felt that the exhaust notes are lacking on the 135/140/240... My old man has a Mini Cooper JCW that sounds incredible next to my 135 :(
Just got to be careful when putting the extras on, for I priced one up and went above 41 grand and then your road tax’s go to £450 a year sorry but sod that
i have test driven the bmw m 240 , and its insane fast , as joe says if u think its not fast theres somthing wrong with u . 4.7 to 60 and 10 .9 to 100 beyond crazy
Fingers crossed my Sunset Orange M240i with black rims and M Performance exaust is being delivered in November! :P images.hgmsites.net/hug/bmw-2-series_100606257_h.jpg
Should do a group test between an m3 vs a 335 vs m2 vs m240 vs m4 vs 440. I continue to think that in real world m3s and m4s are too focused and you can’t enjoy them as much as the others.
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BMW & Mini UK invited me down to try a few of their latest models, after trying the exciting Mini Cooper S Works 210, I figured it would be good to jump straight into the BMW M240i and compare them back to back.
Joe Achilles Awesome video joe as always!!! 👌 Seriously considering getting an M240i, do you know what service costs etc are like for this car? And mph? (Town driving) 😉😂
Every small BMW with inline 6 is future classic.
Best bmw at the moment: it has the presence, the perfomance, the comfort and god that straight 6 sounds so good!
Yeah I have to agree, the M lites are the best value bang for buck BMW's on sale today!
Really better than an M2? I cannot see this car beating the M2 TBH, after driving my 6-speed M2
for only 1900km I'm totally in love, one of the best things is the sound it makes when you lift of the throttle at 5000rpm+, it's addictive.
Adam Andersson race a m240i with xdrive ;p
So I would lose a dragrace, then what? Would have 10x more fun doing it and after the race aswell :D
I agree...
They look so odd without the pro nav, those huge bezels around the sides of the screen. Loving all of these reviews though!
Yeah agree, but they used to look a lot worse with the small plastic surround. Cheers
I had an M135i and now have an M240i. What no one talks about is how good the views are compared to the 4 & 5 series which I recently drove. In the 4 & 5 the all around visibility is not as good as the M240i. You feel like you are surrounded by glass and have lots of light in the 2 series where the bigger cars feel more enclosed. I can confirm the car is rapid. Even I forget sometimes just how quick the car is until I put it in sports plus and hit the back roads.
Got mine last weekend (Esterol blue) . I agree, you can feel the greater mass and the ride is a little rigid compared to my previous 220D. I'm bedding the engine in slowly because it's new, although some will say you don't need to with modern cars. The new LCI display and I drive are a great improvement.
“Obviously I’m not breaking the speed limit”
😂💩
I've owned a 240i for a year. Yup, it's awesome, just a great little sports car. With adaptive suspension it covers all the basses.
Cup of tea and a Joe A video, a perfect Sunday morning !
That rear camera view was pretty frikkin awesome
Hi Joe, this is actually the first video of yours that I've seen but my godness the quality of production and the way you present is amazing. Keep up the good work
Thats great to hear thank you! Only had this car for 15 mins, glad you liked the result :-)
Joe Achilles 15 MINUTES THAT'S IT!!!!! and you get this amazing quality out if it
2:59 - heroic spider! Couldn't cling on when the boost peaked though.
I've been tossing up between the Audi RS3 sedan and an M2 for a while. Haven't checked out the Audi yet. But I did walk into a BMW dealership yesterday. They had the M2 there but not the M240i. Let me tell you videos and photos don't do any cars justice. When I saw the M2 up close and personal it really is magnificent. Looks slick and mean. And with almost a muscle car vibe to it. It almost intimated me. The interior was beautiful aswell, however I feel for these reasons I think I'm gonna end up with the M240i. Not because of the price difference. Just the fact that I'm 30 years old and don't really want a car that turns heads. A car that says look at me. I got an M2. I don't really care about others think. I love cars and I'll buy a car for me, not for other people's attention. the M2 does that. I'm sure when I test drive it I'm going to be astonished by it. However I want the best of both world's. Something comfortable and relaxing as a daily driver, and the option to put in in sport mode with the ride stiffening up, and then driving like a dickhead. From all these reviews the M240i does just that. Ticks more boxes for me. Also being much more understated than the M2 is good. I know I'll lose some performance, however I'm not a track day guy. So having a car like an M2 which is essentially geared for tracks just doesn't seem to be worth it for me. Can't wait to get my new car. It will most likely be the M240i. Unless when I test drive the Audi I'm blown away by it. Audi just worries me. I here alot of stories with reliability of them. Even my mechanic told me to steer clear of Audi, they can be a nightmare. And that's something I really can't ignore.
You speak a lot of what people think that makes me think you care what people think lol. You weird
Such a great package. You just can't beat it.
Aside from the M140i, I totally agree haha
Convinced.
Another enjoyable review - again for me, questioning the wisdom of shelling out for an M2. And Porsche 718 engineers - that's how a sports car should sound. Marvellous.
Cheers Mark, yeah the M lites make a very, VERY good case for themselves! And yeah, what is with that awful boxxer 4 pot :-(
I really want an m240i, but I want it with the M performance package, including the more aggressive front bumper, rear LSD, M sport exhaust, and nicer wheels. It's a hell of a package... Very hard to find!
I have a 2017 M240i and thoroughly enjoy it everyday. I like the interior of mine with the analog instrument cluster and the entire dash set up for that matter than the look of the new 2018. Which one do you prefer if you had the choice between the two?
Great review again Joe. Picked my m240i up last week, coming from m235i. My new car feels to ride much better than the 235. Not sure if that is solely down to the adaptive suspension in the 240 that I specced (my old 235 had passive). I specced the adaptive this time round thanks partly to your reviews of the 240, so a big thank you for that. The engine in the 240 has so much more umph due to more torque in the B58 engine. It really flies! Gone manual again, and I love the slick gear box.
RIP bug @3:00
08.51 bug is the really unlucky one ;-)
i think that was rather bird shit
Looking to jump into a M240i, Manuel or the auto ?
The m240 and m235 look unreal with the full mperformance kit on it but without that it isnt head turning at all
love the bury the speedo moments at the end, got my M240 in July after watching the compare video and not being able to get an M2
I really like this spec, black interiors can get so boring. Nice classic Joe Oversteer moments!
Is it weird that I watch your videos of driving an M240i in order to avoid putting miles on my new one and still get a bit of a fix? While all good, this one is my favorite because it has my color scheme. Cognac and White. I have xDrive though. Living in the Northeast US its a must for a daily. Your videos are, by far, the best of the bunch for this model. Like your M2 and M140i videos too. Keep up the excellent work.
Best dash BMW ever made
A fresher up version of the already brilliant M240i.
Great video mate 👍🏽
Nice to have the intro screen back. Great content.
Cheers man
Hi would you say it’s better than a mini jcw
Fabulous car..just bought one.
man i just love your videos, keep up the brilliant work
❤️ got the M140i and absolutely love it, Golf R, Focus RS, A45 all amazing cars but the BMW just has something special about it!
RIP bug 3:00
Wow great spot!!!!
Such a fast car out the box !
Would have been nice to have mentioned the changes from the outgoing M240i
What do you think about the 228i? They are really rare here in germany, because they almost cost the same as 235i with some extras and m package.. I only drove a 225d yet, but i think a petrol would be more fun :)
Great vid, but if you are using it as a daily drive, the most important option (in my opinion) is the pronav, worth the money for sure, Busnav is a bit rubbish and year 2010.
Terrific video. Can't wait for mine beeing delivered in early december. I literally watched every M240 video there is. Twice... Doesn't make the wait any better though. :)
Awesome, bet you cant wait!!! Cheers
I have to. Unfortunately, when the car arrives in december, it goes directly into hibernation.
Me too mine comes in March :(
I actually thought it would arrive in around march, but it appears that switzerland is prioritzed, so it arrives already in december.
Same for me bro. But mine will fortunately arrive next week.
Does that Mini 210 have the same b48 engine as the 220i/230i? 230i might be an interesting back to back comparison to the mini.
They are indeed mighty cars Joe! We love ours and we're getting a Remus Exhaust for more pops and bangs!
Awesome man, are Motech sorting that for you? Bet it will sound MEGA!
We've gone with our friends down at JFAutomotive in Maidstone as we've had lots done with them!
Hi Joe - loving some of these videos but need your opinion. I currently have a Golf R and love it but they've dropped the three door option and also the manual gearbox so I'm toying with a BMW from the 2 series range. Here's the dilemma - an M2 manual from late 2016 with a manual and the M performance exhaust amongst other options or a nearly new M240i M Performance (one of 750 I believe!) with even more options and the 8 speed box? Both are pretty similar on price but I'm in something of a dilemma - you've driven both so I'd be interested on your opinion. Thanks!
Great video joe 👍 your m140i shadow video inspired me, put in an order today!
Great to hear Andrew, love putting my name behind these brilliant cars :-) Bet you cant wait for 2018 haha
Ordered one 2 weeks ago, your videos help a lot
When are you getting yours? My dealers said that mine won't arrive until 2018-February
ELROGGI March 2018, could have been earlier but company car til then
Which would you have out of a M135i and a M235i and why?
Right then Joe, I've had my M240i for 1 year (in November) but i'm thinking of upgrading to an M2 - what's you opinion? - I've watched your M240i / M2 comparison video but that's over a year ago I think
If you 240 has adaptive it will be the better daily, the M2 is no quicker in a straight line, everywhere else it is a better car though... Hard descision!
Why would you "upgrade" to an M2? You'll gain MINUS 30 torque lol!
Get a Corvette. If you live in the UK, a TT RS Roadster.
Gabriel Flores can't fit passengers in a TT. Corvette built for US roads also drinks fuel like its 50p a gallon (in GB it's about £1.20 for a quarter of a gallon) thanks for your opinion!
How about a remap and get your power up there with the M3/4. I'm running my N54 335i at 450hp (crank) with map and a few bolt ons
Its not about power its about handling in m2
god the M lites are good.. My M140i never fails to put a smile on my face!
Does it short shift into 3rd because of the large amount of torque, or close ratio?
Hi Joe
Is there any chance that you in the future could make a test with the 240 or the 140 with the german RaceChip installed?
Can you pleeaaaaseeee get hold of the new x3 m40i and do a vid. I'm considering chopping the 335d for one 🤔
joe are you planning on test driving the new x3 m140i ?
Yeah definitely, just need to get my hands on one :-)
Hi Joe,
Great collection of videos.
Would you be able to get together a M235i and M3 (E92 - 4.0 V8) and do a back to back comparison with a "hypothetical" which would you spend your money on?
I'm considering between the two, as a 2nd car for fun. And consideration of Noise, handling, DCT vs ZF, looks (especially the interior), "newer vs older with more miles", depreciation, running costs- tax, ins, services, etc. All factors for that bang for your buck (over a good few years). Price around £23-25k.
Be great to see what you could put together and get your feedback and thoughts in a video.
Cheers,
Justin
Just ordered one from trl, beyond excited!
Awesome, TRL strikes again!
Another great vid Joe !! Loving the tan leather interior. A shame its not seen more often, instead of the lighter shades or greys/blacks
Good little review as always 👍🏻 given the choice, 240i or 140i?
Great review of a great car.
What is the car at the end Joe?
Hi Joe, this BMW M240i looked mighty quick doing 35mph when you launched it from a stand still my iPhone 7 must be faulty bloody Apple as I can see from your driving your always keeping to the speed limit even though the revs sounds high and the engine is ready to pop a piston BMW make 35mph sound more like 70mph but ye Joe a very good quick video So as ever Best wishes Alan B.
yea right 35mph
"I'm breaking the speed limit, I'd never do that" - *BULLSHIT* 😂 You Mr Achilles, are fooling no-one LOL. Back to the M240i though, it's a cracking car in its own right, and a worthy alternative if you can't quite afford the full-fat M2.
I know BMW and Mini are partnered and share parts.. but wish mono wouldn’t be mentioned in the likes of M240i
Looks like you had a good time hooning round my neck of the woods... you local?
Great review, thanks....shame about the throttle lag on my M240i
What about getting one in a manual? I'm on the verge of getting one of these but I've always always love a manual gearbox.. I know the high end sports cars must have a sport semi auto gearbox.. will this car feel any different at all in a manual?
I just bought one with a 6-speed manual. DO IT.
@@jamesdaggett20 just got one in the zf8 imo for a car that has so much potential in power the auto is so much better. Definitely was hesitant in leaving manual for a auto but definitely not as bad as I though
Hi mate, just a question, do you think there be a m240i or m140i xDrive coming to the UK atall?
Not in this generation due to lack of packaging space for RHD and xDrive setup with the 3.0 lump, the next generation 1 and 2 series M lites will be xDrive only I believe.
Joe Achilles ahh right that's good to know fancy a m litre xDrive lol
It’s a really fun review, it kind of makes me want one. I’ve been really tempted between this and the 140i but I’m not sure which one to go for!
what did you go for? im in the same situation lol
this test car comes with power seats and heated s wheel thats rare too
Great video Joe. Loving these cars, but the prices are mental. With the costs of living increasing and the low pay scales across the board you see more and more new cars out there. PCP deals seem to be the standard these days, this might a big issue for us as a nation. You go into parts of Europe and the case is so different! Sorry of topic there.
8:29 oh no, he hit the invisible wall! :D
rubbish with the 40k limit they have now. Cant get a decent spec including a pro nav so have to leave it out. went for HK, heated seats, PDC front and rear ( live in a city ) and mineral grey. to get a pro nav meant taking away the HK and heated seats for just a slightly bigger screen
Lovely car, not too sure about the interior colour 🤢 I am considering upgrading my M135i to the M240 in the near future. Currently have the manual but would love to change to the auto. I've always felt that the exhaust notes are lacking on the 135/140/240... My old man has a Mini Cooper JCW that sounds incredible next to my 135 :(
I so want a M140i...... next car I think with luck!
Good Luck then ;-)
Multi storey car park!.......bloody boy racer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. M240i vs Mini......tyres (the right ones) make such a difference to any car. Top vid, Joe👍
Haha yeah that was a bit "Joe the boy racer" Very true re tyres! Cheers buddy
Reminds me of my M135i when I used to go for a spirited drive, but sadly I’ve moved on to an X6 which is a more relaxed experience
Yeah I bet!
I love these things but they're priced so much higher than the Golf R in Canada :(
Don't get the auto...I would def modify it, something about the sound seems incomplete to me, wish it was lighter too but great car.
Launch control with only 800 miles on the clock Joe!!!! Bet you still had the M2 eh?
BMW UK Press car buddy, not my problem. Miss the M2, but it was that going of living on the streets... Also love my M135i so not all bad. Cheers
even the 230i manual is rapid
Spot on Joe👍 Mlites rule 😎😎
2018 m240i it is ... in 2 years once I'm finished with my scirocco
Just got to be careful when putting the extras on, for I priced one up and went above 41 grand and then your road tax’s go to £450 a year sorry but sod that
Yeah that £40k limit is a killer
Without the pro nav inside it just looks off....
The m Performance exhaust would make this car sound like a Ferrari
what's the MPG of the car, Joe?
i have test driven the bmw m 240 , and its insane fast , as joe says if u think its not fast theres somthing wrong with u . 4.7 to 60 and 10 .9 to 100 beyond crazy
The car seems jumpy over the bumps
Why would you compare a mini to a 240i? completely different cars in a completely different class to each other.
Fingers crossed my Sunset Orange M240i with black rims and M Performance exaust is being delivered in November! :P images.hgmsites.net/hug/bmw-2-series_100606257_h.jpg
Very nice, bet you cant wait!
Top presenter joe just started watching your clips .Not far of now from purchasing my mid life crisis car shall it be 240i Or the 140i ummm 👍
Should do a group test between an m3 vs a 335 vs m2 vs m240 vs m4 vs 440. I continue to think that in real world m3s and m4s are too focused and you can’t enjoy them as much as the others.
The centre screen looks so cheap, why don't they have a pop up like an Audi A3.
Because it's not an Audi A3?
99% M car, for half the money.
You seriously have the shittiest roads I've ever seen in the whole EU. Apart from that, nice car.
What in God’s name is the colour of that interior 🤢🤢
Haha I know, really not my taste either, odd spec press car with that and no pro nav...
Joe Achilles I know, I love my M140i with a full BCS turbo back exhaust on, the standard 1/240’s sound so quiet as standard now 😂
James Jevons that's the cognac leather
I like it - atleast its not boring black like every 9/10 BMWs
It looked amazing inside