Calafiori & Zirkzee: David Ornstein's transfer updates

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  • Man United are working to finalise a deal for Bologna forward Joshua Zirkzee. His performances in Italy have earned him a spot in the Netherlands squad for the Euros. Arsenal have also targeted Riccardo Calafiori, could he fit in with the other defenders at the club?
    So, is Zirkzee an upgrade on United’s existing forward options and could Calafiori slot into Arteta's Arsenal?
    Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's David Ornstein and Carl Anka to discuss.
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:00:10 Joshua Zirkzee’s potential deal
    00:03:20 Jarrad Branthwaite & Mathijs De Ligt
    00:10:10 Riccardo Calafiori
    00:16:05 Strikers at Man Utd
    00:19:18 Ivan Toney & Dominic Calvert-Lewin
    00:22:30 Could Man Utd have a cashflow problem?
    00:25:26 How Joshua Zirkzee could fit in at Man Utd
    00:31:35 Are Man Utd playing the long game?
    00:34:02 Does this deal make sense for Arsenal?
    00:39:19 Outro
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  • @TheLevano22
    @TheLevano22 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Braithwaite without even playing Euros is apparently 70M, while Calafiori who carried Italy can't be even 50M, do British fans ever listen to their own arguments?!
    PS Bologna got into UCL while Everton almost got relegated, again...

    • @phatbi971
      @phatbi971 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s just British basis

    • @brothatisfunny
      @brothatisfunny 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I keep saying that, apparently Braithwaite is the best thing ever, except he wasn't called for the euros...
      He plays for SEAN DYCHE'S EVERTON!! He plays inside his box with 3 defensive midfielders infront of him, it's WAY EASIER to make defensive stats like that like goddamn McGuire did, and when you put him on a attacking team he struggle

    • @Hyde_Hill
      @Hyde_Hill 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Home grown rules makes English players more expensive for prem clubs. And prem clubs in general can ask higher prices. It's still overblown but that is the main things.

    • @zumateen
      @zumateen 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're comparing Arsenal spending to that of Manchester United 😅😅
      In addition, there's a homegrown tax added on any english player.
      Also, Everton can afford to ask for a big price, while Bologna can't keep buyers away for too long.
      Finally, breaking into the first team for Italy isn't the high standard it used to be, no big italian defenders to compete against.

  • @Whadidobaby
    @Whadidobaby 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    Carl is a GOAT man, love how he talks about our beautiful sport

  • @alairdottin8101
    @alairdottin8101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Carl Anka excellent and animated as usual!!!

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Could you not find a more flattering pic of Zikrzee?

    • @jonnohicks2176
      @jonnohicks2176 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Sorry that calafiori mogged him

    • @wickedfreestyle102
      @wickedfreestyle102 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      could you not spell his name right

    • @jimbojimbo6873
      @jimbojimbo6873 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wickedfreestyle102 no I couln’t

    • @boredofthisnow
      @boredofthisnow 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Getting a cut of his image rights are you? Or his Mum? 😂

    • @sugargay7168
      @sugargay7168 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Imagine caring what picture is used, but not having the respect to spell his name correctly. Do better jambo

  • @Sean-wu8qf
    @Sean-wu8qf 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    Could listen to Carl all day

  • @Dylan-ek5fy
    @Dylan-ek5fy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Great to see Carl on here. There is no better man at using analogies. Looking forward to the return of Talk of the Devils with Andy and the boys.

  • @grizzly_magnum9579
    @grizzly_magnum9579 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Zirkzee dribbling reminds me a bit of Grealish, except hes 6'4 and carrying it like hes 5'10

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Anthony looked good dribbling too before he joined United 😂

    • @andrewhezekiahdaniel
      @andrewhezekiahdaniel 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@legniak1Another dense observer obsessed with United 😁

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@legniak1serie A isn't the Eredivisie

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@surpriserakins9067 I know. Anthony wasn’t even that good for Ajax but it was enough to blow $80M on him

  • @luthandohlatuka7113
    @luthandohlatuka7113 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Karl Anka is on and I watch. I am a simple man.

    • @MrMoneyLong
      @MrMoneyLong 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Carl*
      Good fella , i agree

    • @mastemawolfesq.2408
      @mastemawolfesq.2408 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@MrMoneyLong Fella*

    • @MrMoneyLong
      @MrMoneyLong 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@mastemawolfesq.2408 thank you fellow grammar police 👮

    • @DisforDelight
      @DisforDelight 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MrMoneyLong fellow grammar police officer*

    • @jimbojimbo6873
      @jimbojimbo6873 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Karl is the urban way of saying it

  • @columcunningham4458
    @columcunningham4458 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Absolutely Class. Wonderful group of gents. nO bS Smart and relatable. All the best

  • @L9pis1994
    @L9pis1994 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    asking for a massive commission as a pat on the back for the release clause you yourself agreed to is kinda shady tbh. In the end the total fee comes up to the market value without it so what's the point apart from pocketing as much money as possible instead of the club getting it

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The release clause is below market value so with the commission, the buying club is still making a saving on the player as players usually go for 10M+ over their market value

    • @boredofthisnow
      @boredofthisnow 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You got the point in your last sentence.

    • @rana1561
      @rana1561 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely, tbh, both the dealing clubs here are not the ones in position of advantage. The agent was just sharp enough to include a release clause that was lucrative for the current club when taking risk on a young striker who was looking for regular game time to level up his ability when he wasn't so obviously decent, and the release clause amount was also lucrative enough now for clubs trying to buy him because it saves them a bidding war which would've pushed the overall cost by 20 million. And they are avoiding that by agreeing to agent fees for giving the purchasing club the preference through the agent. In the end you gotta applaud the agent for hitting the bullseye with the risk of a release Clause, or to the agents ability to convince the previous club to feel that they are investing in a potential dudd.

  • @Friedel69
    @Friedel69 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bologna and Stuttgart both raided like a medieval camp without fortifications. Sad.

  • @brothatisfunny
    @brothatisfunny 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A thing i don't see anyone talking about Braithwaite is how he plays for a super defensive team, what will happen when he plays for a more atacking and exposed one? Same happened to McGuire

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Ruuuuuud is back at the club. He'll yeach the front lot how to score.

  • @groovywithad3942
    @groovywithad3942 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see Carl Anka and I’m here guys🙏🏾

  • @ronakjoshi5198
    @ronakjoshi5198 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Carl Anka by name top bloke by nature

  • @mazidmufc
    @mazidmufc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    David Ornstein- the boss of English transfer market❤️❤️

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man like Carl Anka! Top lad!

  • @bhismarqafful5678
    @bhismarqafful5678 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    ORNESTEIN 😍😍😍😍😍

  • @sunievibes6940
    @sunievibes6940 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ❤❤❤❤GGMU

  • @manunited4life634
    @manunited4life634 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ✅Ugarte
    ✅Zirkzee
    ✅De ligt
    ✅Yoro
    ✅Neves
    ✅Doue
    ✅Ndieye
    United gone massive in transfer window I wish we hear here we go soonest by Fabrizio Romano on Zirkzee.

  • @Brazil520
    @Brazil520 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Zirzkee is Berbatov without the goalscoring pedigree.

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a bold comparison. Haven’t seen a lot of Zirkzee but if he’s half as good as Berba he will be a hell of a signing

    • @samserwadda253
      @samserwadda253 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@legniak1 he is no where near the technical ability of berbatov. No where near. He is probably a better athlete but is no where near the technical ability of berba.

    • @Brazil520
      @Brazil520 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@samserwadda253 He’s actually very similar in play style to Berbatov. Zirzkee is a very technical player.
      People say Havertz is but that’s just racial bias.

    • @Brazil520
      @Brazil520 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@legniak1 In play style he is, languid style, he won’t press lol. Amazing first touch and link play.

    • @archercarne
      @archercarne 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samserwadda253 there isn't lot of players in history with the technical ability of Berbatov. I haven't seen anything like him.

  • @yemiadio8073
    @yemiadio8073 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    United fans have enjoyed laughing at Arsenal fans with Gabi Jesus. Have fun with Zirkzee 🙃

    • @hansrama3485
      @hansrama3485 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we have hojlund as well

  • @ndg9746
    @ndg9746 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A midfield of Schouten, Mikel Merino and Gomes at Lille would be elite

  • @bbqR0ADK1LL
    @bbqR0ADK1LL 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jokes on you , Carl. I'm 5'9" & I suck at dribbling😂

  • @notfunny007
    @notfunny007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Zirkzee has to improve his finishing to succeed

    • @Coopdegras
      @Coopdegras 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not a United fan but I'd think Ruud coming in as coach could help him with that

    • @notfunny007
      @notfunny007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Coopdegras yup

  • @Michaelkaydee
    @Michaelkaydee 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Everton can do one... those benchmarks were overpriced obvoiusly... United will give a Take it or leave it offer and move on.

  • @michaelmun3521
    @michaelmun3521 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Our Martial replacement is here. Likes low driven shots too just like Tony.

  • @mohammedZxt
    @mohammedZxt 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ten Haag should bring in great players and get rid of the likes of Anthony/Martial/Ericksen.

  • @andorrasrevenge1683
    @andorrasrevenge1683 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Carl is the best

  • @brapblap0429
    @brapblap0429 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "when lacazette was at lyon"
    -is at lyon

  • @alairdottin8101
    @alairdottin8101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calvert Lewin is quite injury prone at the moment.

  • @really8930
    @really8930 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Happy for Everton not to blink, and keep Branthwaite. A bird in the hand (£50m) is worth two in the bush (£70m +). Everton should wise up. The days of Maguire type purchases are over.

    • @MartinGreen932
      @MartinGreen932 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's not Maguire. He's faster than him, stronger than him, doesn't make ricks and will improve into one of the very best in the world (he's already just about as good as anything in the prem) and a much better defender than Stones was at the same age. Any everton fan who watches most of the games will tell you about this kid. We would be happy to get 55-60 for Onana, 30mill+ Pickford, 20mill+ DCL but you will not find one that thinks we should get a penny less than 70mill for Branthwaite.

    • @MartinGreen932
      @MartinGreen932 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pay the money and get an elite player that can Captain your club for years or get someone not as good and is older for 45mill. Then next summer Man City or Real will snap this kid up.

    • @really8930
      @really8930 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@MartinGreen932 No problem. City or Madrid, can “snap him up” for whatever price they want next year. United are not for turning, this time. New days are here. About time too.

    • @BigPurp9
      @BigPurp9 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Literally, I’ve been really impressed by him this year but not for that kind of money. If the clubs can’t agree we should move on.

    • @really8930
      @really8930 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MartinGreen932 Fair enough. Keep him. United will move on.

  • @TiganaaJ
    @TiganaaJ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Karl anka looks like an Utd fan...is smelling to the deal of zirkzee 😂😂

    • @chrisj5816
      @chrisj5816 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      or maybe he’s just a fruit loop because he was smiling for the Arsenal news too

    • @DisforDelight
      @DisforDelight 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is a United fan.

    • @naseibonsu8120
      @naseibonsu8120 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a United fam!

  • @saltmerchant749
    @saltmerchant749 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Not only the big clubs"
    Spends the entire show talking about United and Arsenal.

  • @katibothman5531
    @katibothman5531 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zirkzee plays with a much wonderful elegance that is closer to someone like Jack Grealish....... Which Jack Grealish are you talking about? Aston Villa Grealish or Man City Grealish that could not make it to the Euros?

    • @garv04
      @garv04 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Villa grealish was brutal

  • @wayneverhoff2790
    @wayneverhoff2790 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Braitwaithe is cap. Introducing Yoro

  • @Pwnziillaaaa
    @Pwnziillaaaa 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    CALIFIORI CALIFIORI
    He drinks moretti
    He eats spaghetti
    And He fucking hates Chelsea
    🔴⚪️

    • @garv04
      @garv04 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is he joining us ??

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dominic Calvert Lewin is always injured. Worse injury record than Luke Shaw!!

  • @josephherrick2965
    @josephherrick2965 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Be nice if we could have a bit less endless man utd speculation

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Varanes contract already expired. He's gone.

  • @Gloriousibglorious
    @Gloriousibglorious 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is he so out of breathe 😂

  • @r1ckyr0zay9
    @r1ckyr0zay9 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zirkzee mewing

  • @manunited4life634
    @manunited4life634 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get Ugarte and let sign Amrabat permanently he is stronger than Mctommiey

  • @FlashMeterRed
    @FlashMeterRed 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well man utd want to be able to win ugly...............

  • @barneybernado1998
    @barneybernado1998 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calvert lewin is pony not on his life would have sir Alex singed that man joker

  • @Maj1794
    @Maj1794 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zirkzee is depay 2.0 😅

    • @mimikolomamu
      @mimikolomamu 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you stupid?

  • @legniak1
    @legniak1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man Utd should go for Ramsdale

    • @garv04
      @garv04 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts for 40 mills he's bargain

  • @cj2103m
    @cj2103m 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Zirkzee is going to be an absolute flop tbh. Never been a footballer at that sort of level.

    • @Rustylad12
      @Rustylad12 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Hold the phones everyone. TH-cam armchair expert in his infinite scouting wisdom thinks he is going to be a flop

    • @cj2103m
      @cj2103m 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rustylad12 he’s been absolutely mediocre everywhere he’s played, with the small exception of this past season, which was almost certainly down to the fact that Thiago Motta is an unbelievable coach. He made Lewis Ferguson of Aberdeen into a €50m player. Just wait. Zirkzee is another Martial in the making.

    • @SangbaranDasgupta
      @SangbaranDasgupta 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hojlund and Zirkzee will rampage in the Europa League, wait and watch.

    • @InesVandehoof
      @InesVandehoof 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@cj2103m lmao i can bet that the only thing you know about the player are the highlight videos you watched on TH-cam 🤣🤣

    • @Rustylad12
      @Rustylad12 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cj2103m He's a 38m backup striker who is a different profile to Hojlund. Sure he's had to find his way but he's only 23 heading in to his prime. Nothing about his injury record suggests he's a Martial so I don't know what you're on about.

  • @SLM3573
    @SLM3573 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    dude doesnt score, they are adding him to a front line of Rashford who once again cant score, and Hojlund who maybe can score but no one passes to him. They need someone who is going to get 20 plus goals next season and this guy isnt it.
    De Ligt has been replaced by Eric Dier he is as slow as a week in jail and they already have a slow centre back in Slabby Maguire. Utd are once again going to get their pants pulled swiftly down on buys and sales as there isnt one player Utd are wanting to sell who any club will match the wages

    • @DisforDelight
      @DisforDelight 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Strikers of his ilk tend to mature into goalscorers. I'd wait and see with this one.

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      De ligt isn’t slow for a cb. He’s young, strong and his height will compliment Licha well added to the fact they played at Ajax. He was Ajax captain at 19 so he’s another leader to a dressing room filled with moaning children like Rashford

    • @JamailvanWestering
      @JamailvanWestering 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They don’t need to have a striker that can get more than 20.
      What they need is a system and Zirkzee fits that role perfectly for playing the style of Ajax, that allows more switching between the forward.

    • @uwesmek
      @uwesmek 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂 wtf are you on.

    • @garv04
      @garv04 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DisforDelightnope

  • @shango7942
    @shango7942 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Put Rasmus on the Right Wing.

    • @mimikolomamu
      @mimikolomamu 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you stupid?

  • @hussey1990
    @hussey1990 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    75M for overrated English player. Everton can do one ✌🏽

  • @djliksu6341
    @djliksu6341 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    don't believe word of it until Orstein says it. Credit to your background work. Credit to your discretions. in Or we trust. You have become tier 0.99 journalist

    • @djliksu6341
      @djliksu6341 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fair play to your graft and integrity

  • @fatboywins
    @fatboywins 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why isnt anyone asking why bayern would sell de light?

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because they have about 6 cbs on the books with them looking to also buy Jonathan Tah from Leverkusen. They need to offload someone. There’s not much market for Upamecano and Kim so De Ligt is the only sellable one out of them all. Eric Dier just joined so he isn’t on the market

    • @uwesmek
      @uwesmek 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They are buying Tah from Leverkusen and he wants a guaranteed spot in the 11.

    • @fatboywins
      @fatboywins 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@uwesmek them this brings about another question gentleman, if they have 6 cbs, why would they be willing to sell de light specifically? Aka he isn't good enough...?

    • @fatboywins
      @fatboywins 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@uwesmek dyer isn't that great imo, tah has had a good season, but fat from proven over years.

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Plenty of alternatives and he has an injury record. United will have to manage hos minutes