A Virginia woman bought her dream car. Then the repo truck came - for someone else | NBC4 Washington
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- A Virginia woman says she found herself in a financial mess after discovering a private seller of a used car lied about the vehicle. Consumer Investigative Reporter Susan Hogan says what happened next left the unsuspecting buyer with the burden of an outstanding debt she didn’t even know she had until it was too late.
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this seller needs to be arrested for committing fraud.
Ya think
@@Hellcat71782Probably won't happen. He's a friend of a friend who pulls strings, most likely. Probably a very friendly/ fake soulless man!
I guess no one really knows what to do on the matter.
arrested? he would be out on the streets in an hour.
Really Brian?
Navy Federal should have caught it. They're supposed to check the VIN to make sure there's not a lien on the vehicle with a different lender.
💯💯💯💯
If the dmv coutldnt catch wat make u think the bank would
@@mackcity74gdn89If they don't check they won't know. A lot of people clearly didn't want to do their job. That's why it took the news to step in just for her to get answers. Everyone just kept ignoring her.
Carvana isn’t exactly known For being on the up and up with their paperwork. My guess is that navy did their due diligence and carvana was just late filing the lien.
Navy been fu(!^g up lately...
Navy Federal should give her money back for failing to verify the VIN. Shame
@@biggzacc2145 what process is this. I thought only the lien holder could do this.
@@kevins9688 just like they steal homes.
@@biggzacc2145 speak proper english
@@biggzacc2145 degenerate
It depends on the state.
I work for a credit union in Georgia. Currently, I'm in mortgage underwriting, but I was in automobile financing for 10+ years previously.
Georgia's DMV has an automated telephone service that you can call and enter in a VIN. The service will disclose the year, make, & model of the vehicle on record, as well as the owner of record, the mileage as of the last time the title was recorded, and any lienholders that appear in the DMV records.
I do not know if any other states have a similar system. But, we were a small credit union, so we didn't want to handle financing out-of-state private party automobile purchases because it was so much more difficult to verify the status of the title in those cases.
The seller should be charged with straight forward fraud.
He knew exactly what he was doing, he needs to be in jail for fraud.
Yes, I know someone who was trying to low-key do this. Luckily, they repo the car before they could sell it.😏 Unfortunately, these scammers barely get caught.
So many crimes occur and they have the victims face and name but often time they don’t publish the criminal’s name of picture. Shame.
The lady could sue him for distress and she's got winnable case ........ But I have suspicion that the seller might be an enforcement agent and everything brushed under the carpet so quickly ..... ........ And what's disgusting is no one gave her answer nor helped her until news outlet intervened ....... The system work for the rich and the authorities but not working class ......
What make him different than the people who run America?They steal by the billions.
He was just acting like President Trump...
WAITTT SO THIS MAN IS WALKING AWAY WITH 25k !?!?!?!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!
Very disturbing. Might inspire copycats
She should've filed a lolice report in PA. Minus Philly and Pittsburg, law enforcement in PA seem to enjoy throwing criminals in jail.
Pittsburgh*
Back the blue till it happens to you. Loser.
Wait, so this guy is the all caps guy !?!?
$25K for a Porsche should’ve been a red flag for a scam.
You can get a used Porsche Macan for as low as $30,000…… what she paid isn’t that far off and it wasn’t from a dealership. 😊
Not really. It’s a 2020 Macan
@@emiralbdyri9668 2015
@emiralbdyri9668 2015
Her $25k Porsche will need a $15k tune-up and timing chain replacement any day now...
Arrest the seller. I’m glad she got her car back.
The bank that gave the Carvana loan was late filing the lien paperwork, they are also to blame, which is why they gave the car back to the lady.
25k Porsche is a red flag
Exactly! Many luxury brands do not depreciate a whole lot in value. I'd never recommend anyone buy a late model luxury car, it's likely to cost more than a well negotiated new car. I owned a 2010 TSX that was totaled 3 years later, it has 44k miles on it. The insurance company paid me almost 27k for it, I paid 29500 for the car, the original sticker price was 36k. I paid off the 5k i owed and bought another one and put down 15k.
just a ceyanne and a few years old. 25k is about right... I'm currently shopping for a 2012 less than 30,000 mile panamera and they can be found for about 40k
You are all handicapped and know nothing. It's a fckn 10 year old Porsche SUV.
BRO ITS A 2015 LMAOOOO. and probably has like 60k miles on it... the price seems right. CHECK GOOGLE. they go for even less bro.
That’s what I said I would’ve thought: A juicy Lemon😂😂😂😂😂
Buying a used car from a dealer isn’t that much safer.
Plus they rob you with hidden Fee$ 😂
Especially Carvana. 😂
well people are robbed more at car dealers than private sales
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Automation in Laurel Maryland is thee worst. They sold me an overpriced Certified used car which had a fire in the transmission. I gave them Hell but the still got away with fraud.
My aunt had bought a used car with cash with an actual clean title. It was back when Nissan Maximas were in the top 5 most stolen vehicles. She was working at Lowe's one day and someone said they saw her car being towed. She ran out there and a towing company said they were repossessing it. She told them she doesn't owe anything on the car but they wouldn't listen. She called the cops and they told her it was civil matter, even though you know if were of their or their relatives 's cars being towed they would step in, and they couldn't do anything. Finally the manger at Lowe's told the towing company if they did not leave without the car he would trespass them. She found that people were stealing cars by making up false repo letters and sending tow companies in to get the cars, then taking the cars to an empty lot in another state. The thieves would then come get the car strip it for parts and leave it somewhere. The cops could have ended a stolen car ring if they had just listened, but they are lazy and won't listen.
Inside Job
The Goons with Guns lazy and incompetent? 😲 Say it's not so...😳
It was my understanding that if you owe money on a car, you never even get to SEE the title until you have paid it off.
Depends on the state. Some states issue title with any lien holders listed on it. This guy did some photoshop/Illustrator type shit to produce a clean "looking" title.
@@TheBlackSheepReportYup!
I'm astonished that her BANK would finance such a car, as they have an even HIGHER obligation to due-diligence that title.
I think it is more of the DMV'S responsibility. They issued a title to Navy Fed showing they have security interest in the vehicle, and registered the car to the new owner.
That car is hideous.
@dougfisher1813 yeah Porsche are ugly for being a premium car brand. No way I would pay a lot of money for their style.
@@dougfisher1813 It's better than that furniture in her house.
😂 y’all some mean Vatos !!!
She's sooooo lucky that she got her car back!
By bad PR and by technicality in the long run it would of cost them more to NOT return it
The dude was the lucky one, no arrest and pocket 25K and they even know who he is and said they will do nothing about it.
Carvana can write off the loss, so ultimately we the tax payers pay. That said this is something worth paying for.
Guy is probably on the run, or even left the country. @@gammagogeta
@@gammagogeta Lucky? His info is probably plastered in every state govt database in the country, lol.
He will eventually get his.
Years ago I found a NSX for sell my dream car. The price was too good to be true. I reached out to the seller and told him I wanted to do the transaction in front of a police station. I never heard back from him. I knew it was a scam.
Awful grammar and incoherent.
@@nwezetx1 like u ?
@@nwezetx1 criminal lover
@@nwezetx1 you should follow your own advice on your youtube bio
@@nwezetx1 lurk much?
My confusion is why Navy Federal didn't secure a clear title. As a former Bank Compliance Officer my lenders were not allowed to release the funds until we had a clear title. No duplicate titles were allowed. Also, how was the duplicate title obtained. It should have been mailed to the lien holder. I have so many questions. There were a LOT of chances for this to be caught before it got this far. However, the bottom line is that the seller needs to serve time.
I love Navy Federal so even I'm a little confused on this
Maybe a personal loan
Depends on the state. Some states issue titles with the lienholders name listed. This was likely a photoshopped version.
Seller/defrauder should be in jail!
Innocent people in prison, criminals walking free on the streets. Innocent people without rights, criminals have all the rights. The biggest criminals run the country.
Im glad she was able to get her property back.
It's a good ending for sure but legally carvana had every right to take that car back, she purchased it through a fraudulent transaction. Normally in these cases the original seller repo's the car and it's up to the person who got scammed to sue the fraudster for their money back.
It never was her property............Until they felt sorry andfgave the car to her...
I wouldn’t even want the car honestly. If the seller had to fraudulently sell the car in the first place, you know damn well they skimped out on the maintenance.
@theshmalls
it makes me glad to be one of those "legal address i've never lived at" type of folks 😂😂
Crazy thing is i just looked these cars up and They are priced 25-30000 so i can understand how it wouldn't seem like a scam
The problem this country has, they are way to lenient on criminals! But tough on law abiding citizens!
Brother, your comment should have a million thumbs up! You are 100% correct. If we had penalties similar to what you see in places like Singapore, people would think twice before committing crimes.
😂😂😂 the US has the biggest per capita prison population on the globe.
@@bsqwahlE while that's true, your comment is misleading. The overwhelming majority of American inmates are serving short sentences. In otherwords, we have more incarcerated ppl than any other nation, however the majority of them will be released in a short time (less than 5 years) and they'll be replaced right away with other lawbreakers, who will likely serve short sentences. Most inmates in America aren't serving long, harsh sentences for violent crimes. The ones serving long sentences are just a small fraction of the overall inmate population. With that being said, the comment at the top is correct. The American penal system is too lenient on criminals. It's a game of catch and release after a short stay in prison.
Agree with the first half of what you said but they are too tough on law abiding citizen? I had a friend that used to say that. No big deal he had no insurance on his vehicle. Wasn't needed as he had no drivers license. Car was a rattle trap that would never pass smog and he drove it for years before some cop noticed the expired tags. Then it was "Hey man, can you come over and give me a ride?" We don't talk anymore.
@@rewing4880 Good for you. what a miscreant. Shame on him.
Got to publish the mans name & address, he needs to be made famous!
We need to have mercy on him, but he should know that what he did was wrong.
@@BlindBiker3 LOL no mercy and why did he repent or you a criminal too huh;
“We” need to have mercy?
This is not my problem or yours.
@@BlindBiker3
Stealing $25K from a stranger is a lot to forgive, especially when the thief has never shown remorse.
@@BlindBiker3 you suck
Sad it took a news station to solve this issue
Good job 4 Responds for helping a victim with this problem.
Why do we continue to allow this? The seller needs to be arrested and held accountable
Scammers seems to be winning.
Although I agree, the fruad happened in one state and in one county. The victim lives in another state and another county. So you have two different counties and two different states that could ultimately file charges. And all four policing departments are likely wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. And even Carvana's lending partner doesn't want to take a civil lawsuit out because of the expense involved with little to no likelihood of receiving even their legal expenses back.
Had the victim in this case lived in the same state as where the initial fraud occurred, I suspect charges would have been placed on the person who illegally sold the vehicle. But once you cross state lines, unless there was bodily injury to a party or you are dealing with a fraud case in the seven figures so it gets headlines, the banks are likely just going to write the loss off.
And yes, a case could be argued for interstate fraud which would then make this a federal case. As Navy Federal Credit Union would have used a mail carrier or electronic transfer to send the money to the victim so she could give the fraudster a cashier's check.
Democrats allow it that's why
Funny USA is One Country yet America is like separate 50 different countries.
@@sootuckchoong7077 scammers have always been winning. Only losers are those who play by the book
How did the seller have possession of the title with a lien on the car.? The Finance Co. should have the title. Very Bizzare.
Maybe he faked it, or know someone who works in DMV (friend/family) to create the title for him.
Because in some states, you can keep the title but they list the lien holders (i.e.) the bank, name on the title, AS THEY SAID IN THIS STORY!
Exactly!!
Pennsylvania isn't one of those states. You don't get the title until the car is paid in full and the lending institution then and only then releases the title to you once the last payment clears.
You can look up, and you will see there aren't any leins on anything only for 21 days so the companies can file it with the DMV, mortgage companies, etc... UCC 11 check with your secretary of state see what they say
Note to self. Don't by a Porsche at half price from some rando on the side of the road.
Poor lady! I’m glad it had a happy ending!
Yup. Scammer won and she got her car everyone won
it makes me glad to be one of those "legal address i've never lived at" type of folks🤣🤣
He sold a stolen car, give her, her money back. Damn
Dude. She got the car back and its hers with no more payments. She got a deal in the end and I am happy she did. But she went thru a lot of stress and she might have had a law suit for a lot of money. in her future. Carvana and the Credit Union saw a huge public relations storm coming and they did the cheapest solution possible. They gave her the car. Its a good story with an awesome ending.
You fall for a scam you don't deserve your money back for being so stoopid.
Car wasn't stolen he had purchased it but baled on the repayment plan and sold it on
@@rewing4880Hold up, who said she has no more payments. The bank loaned her $25k and she has the car back, the bank is still going to want their money. I think she has to keep paying her monthly payments.
Did you even watch the video? 😅😅
Is anything ever not a scam anymore.
Nowadays it dont seem like it
The seller is a liar and needs to be charged and arrested.
Get that fraud in jail. She should also sue the seller. Someone needs to get justice
1. The seller not supposed to have a paper title until he pays off Carvana, it should have an electronic lien.
2. Her state not supposed to register the car without transferring it from Pennsylvania DMV records. That transfer wouldn’t work if it has an electronic lien on it.
3. Her local DMV would verify the fraudulent paper title.
So something was wrong. Could it be an employee at Carvana who removed the electronic lien from the title? Most likely. And they probably done it many times already using their friends.
Carvana and their finance arm are out around tens of thousands of dollars. They aren't even trying to get those tens of thousands of dollars back from the fraudulent seller.
Why?
Probably because they want to sweep this under the rug.
Why?
Probably because it's their fault that the fraudulent seller could clean/wash the title so well that neither the DMV nor Barbara's bank noticed anything.
Tl;dr: If it wasn't on at least partially on Carvana they'd at least pursue the fraudulent seller - which they don't. Mmh.
1. Each state has their own way of doing it. I'm in Virginia, and here you get a temporary title from the dealer the day you buy the car, and then you get the official one (that looks just like the one they were waving around in the video; green/white and fancy decorations at the top) in the mail from the DMV a few days later.
If you bought it with financing, on the title it will CLEARLY say that the car is under a LIEN, and along with your name and address, it'll have the name and address of the finance company.
It stays that way until you fully pay the loan off, at which point you get what's called a "pink slip" - it's an official receipt from the loan company saying the loan is paid in full (and yes, it's on pink paper). You can take the pink slip to the DMV, and they'll re-issue you a "clean" title showing that there's no longer a lien on the car and that you own it outright.
I've lived in 6 different east coast states and it's been the same in all of them. Maybe it's different out west?
2. and 3. - Yep. The DMV *is* the state though, so these two points are saying the same thing. A flag should have popped up while she was standing at the DMV counter, as it's tied to the VIN.
Carvanna has alot of issues
What a blessing to be able to get her car back!!
Wasnt her car...She bought stolen property......
How did her bank and the DMV not catch this?....SMH
because she bought it from PA and she transferred it to VA clearly PA didn't check for the lien before allowing VA to issue new title.
Finance records don't show up on your logbook (V5), only your details as the keeper, and technical info about the car.
Great journalism. Thanks for pursuing a story that helped someone.
Never buy anything off Facebook market
That is an ignorant statement when there are thousands of sale happening daily with no issues. If she had driven past his car with a for sale sign on it, would that have been better . Orf, if he had put the ad in a news paper like it was done 20 years ago, would that have been better?
@@bjvu9460 Facebook market is where most people get scammers scam people out of their money. You’re right about one thing if it’s too good to be true it’s not true, but still Facebook market is with scammers scam people out of their money.
Bought my 100k Porsche off Facebook. I've also seen $4 million cars sold on FB. You just sound closed minded. This persons story was a one off case
My Mitsubishi van I bought off Facebook has absolutely no issues, and there's no chance anyone will want to repossess it, because it's an older model.
@@bjvu9460 Yep, early Craigslist and before that newspaper ads in the "bargain hunter" section... 😂🇦🇺🙋🏼♀️
Not really a happy ending. The seller should have been sued or arrested. The DMV and insurance company failed to see if the owner did surrender the car and plates. Carvana and the financial loan company failed to tow the car when it was in possession of the delinquent seller. 🤦♂️
Thank you for investigating this story.
Wow! This is absolutely wild. Thank goodness the investigative team was able to look into this and help her. It seems that without this investigation this woman would have been completely at a loss, dream car gone and a loan she is still on the hook for. Great work ! If only the seller would be held responsible by someone. Hopefully in the future.
A Porsche with Lionhart tires is also a red flag…
😂😂😂😂, really.
Never purchase a luxury vehicle from a “private” person.
Or maybe run a title check? A corporation is also a "person" and much more likely to fuck your ass
Keyword here was "Carvana". Shitty company at best and scam at worst.
Why not?
@@manuelpiston Just be careful. Do your homework before. I had a family member who was deceived by a “private “ seller before.
Good on NBC 4 for shaming these parties and helping this woman get to the bottom of this.
Thanks for helping. I did not expect this outcome.
I used to sell my own cars until I started leasing for about 25 years straight. I would want to know where the buyer got the car as Carvana is notorious themselves.
Another reason to stay away from Carvana
Good for her! I'm thrilled to hear she got her car back! She did everything right. Navy Fed should have caught that before issuing a loan. Nice to see the good people getting treated right.
Well done NBC! This is the way to help. Excellent.
at the end of the day, this lady got a decent deal and her dream car. im happy for her
No consequences! And our lawmakers can't understand why crime in the U.S. is totally RAMPANT!
The lawmakers are too busy committing crimes themselves!
@@malewire1263exactly
Mainly Democrats
thanks to sleepy joe!!!!
@@gregorypaine513 So, how's Trump's hoo-hah taste, bruh??
Love that she was able to get her vehicle back 👏🏼 good job nbc !
DMV should be liable since they reregistered this car and not flag it
I won’t even sell my car privately. I just trade in. You do t get as much, but I won’t have to hear about it later.
Yeah it’s easy that way to get rid of it.
Trade in is stupid, but ig if you have alot of money it's no problem.
@@WhiteWolfostrade-in can be useful for tax purposes
If you're not hiding, you needn't worry
@@HudsonGTV you can use it as a down payment also.
Kudos to the News Team, Great Ending!!!
I had a similar thing happen to me...I sold my car to a small used dealership. 2 years later I get a call (at work) from the Cleveland Police Department that asked me when I was going to pick up my car and pay the $1200 impound fee. I asked what car because my car was right here with me. They told me it was the 1986 Pontiac 6000 STE which I sold 2 years ago. Cleveland Police told me that it was my problem now and I had to get it cleared up because the impound fee was going up every day. I contacted the dealership I sold the car to and he said that he sold it to another dealership who then sold it to a private buyer. My name stayed on the title through 3 other owners. The original dealer I sold it to said that he would take care of it. I gave him all the phone numbers and people at the Cleveland Police. Two days later I got a call from Cleveland again and they said that it was all cleared up and to have a nice day.
I feel so bad for the woman and I’m glad she was able to get her vehicle back but Carvana sell stolen cars on a daily basis 🙄 they need to investigate that also.
All the best cars I have bought was honest preowned private sellers.
Bought a 2002 Lexus LS from a guy. He kept it in the garage and had all the maintenance records. It literally looks brand new. The leather seats don't have any cracks and the headliner and carpets are spotless. All for 8k.
The odds don't favor some
NBC just found out that water is wet.
What the lender did is illegal, once the vehicle was retitled, they no longer had a claim to the car. What they did was grand theft auto, not a repssesion. They can't claim they didn't know, since they got her location from her title information.
Whether or not the state should of allowed it to be retitled is a separate issue.
It costs a few bucks to have a car ownership traced, takes a few minutes. Never just hand someone cash who says "yeah this is my car."
The fact that they know who he is and will not arrest him is sickening. Now he will just run off to do this to someone else who will not be as lucky. Crazy to think how bad our country sucks today.
we can thank stupid joe!!!
So glad new owner was smart to get car back.Whit the help news company.Some honest news people out there. God bless.
A coworker of mine went out to buy a an old Camry during his lunch and wanted me to tint it for him. He came back with it and I starting removing the old tint. Me and the other techs were looking at it and are like…wow what a shitty paint job. Like they spray painted it…and then it’s missing one number on the VIN…and it’s greasy all over the car? Even painted the wheels? We were all joking that this car he just bought was stolen.
I was only removing the tint and it’s just things that I noticed😂 Later that same day, he went to the gym and cops surrounded him when he came out and guns drawn. Car was stolen. Painted black and the car turned out to be bright cherry red. Apparently the little voice in his head didn’t warn him that this car was most likely stolen because the alarm wire or something was cut (he told me this small detail after the cops took the car). He said he thought it was weird but the seller made himself seem trustworthy. I was like ain’t no waaayyy😂 Shitty paint, wire cut, and missing one number on VIN? No way dude. Dead giveaway. He only bought it because of the engine he said and it was selling for 3k. I told him yeah it was probably too good to be true 💀
I would buy a used car from a local person, subject to a mechanic’s inspection. But sight unseen from FB marketplace? No way.
I'd only buy from a dealer, and I'd do a CarVertical check on it.
for every private seller that's sketchy their is a dealership in comparison...
The thing that blows my mind about this is that the new owner registered the vehicle under her address (else the repo company couldn't find it) so she almost certainly had to register it under her NAME as well, which would clearly indicate that the car in question was NOT owned by the scammer. Seeing as how the new owner had no financing agreement with the company filing for repo, and the car clearly belonged to someone else, repossessing a car owned by a third party should be considered theft. Instead of repoing a car owned by an innocent person, this should be felony finance fraud or grand theft or something, and the guy who sold the car should be headed to prison. But no, it is easier to go after an innocent person who won't fight, than to go after the actual guilty party.
The seller should be charged, and the buyer should file a lawsuit against the seller.
This is why we need to be careful.
Glad she got the car back you can tell she loves that car and will take good care of it
Im glad she got her car in the end, heart breaking she went through all that but im glad she got help.
Seller needs to face criminal charges
always remember, when u pay the vehicle off, make sure u take the gps off
Carfax does not always have proper car info if its not reported or entered.
Someone that worked at an autobody shop said this.
if you do the bulk of your work yourself it won't show up on carfax as being maintained either.
she need to sued everybody for 2 months of emotional stress
Lmao 😂😂😂😂 legal fees would not be worth it.
2 months? She had it over 19 months
I have learned from my mistakes never to purchase a vehicle online again. I had a bad experience once.
A company that did the right thing? Without having to be hounded? Honestly, I’m amazed, I don’t know if they would’ve done something if local news did not get involved but they did right by her and that’s great! But yes always do a car history report, best advice you can ever get, plus if the vehicle check is wrong and causes you a loss like this then they will take responsibility and make you whole (at least in the UK).
Omg! I don't know what I'd do if that ever happened to me. 🥺 I love my vehicle, though I purchased it from a dealership. They did a great job in assisting the lady with getting the vehicle back. 👍🏾 😊 ❤
she so lucky you'll helped her
This happened to me as well. The only difference was that the car was stolen and the person who sold it to me, stole it from me as well
Why does my heart and prayers go out to this woman….
25k for a 2015 Porsche?? Something is wrong right away. 💀❌
No that’s about right lmao
Depends on where you go that's about right
Values of these macans plummet after the 5 year 50k mile warranty expires. These cars are very expensive to fix which is the reason you can pick them up at a good price if they are older. Porsche 911s not so much.
@@chrisg5101 you right I always checking on the Porsche 911 and prices are always high so wasn’t expecting this to be this cheap but they do take depreciation different than other Porches.
@@AlejandroArchila1 There are several reasons why this is the case.
1. Cars that people love will retain value much better because its an emotional purchase.
2. Also supply and demand causes this.
3. also 911 prices have continued to rise at a fast rate. 10-15 years ago you could get one for 94k base model. Today the base is 114k. This helps with depreciation of the used 911s.
4. Practical people usually drive the macan which is why they're buying an SUV. Practical people are more cost conscious. 5. Also the Macan has not gone up in price very much over the last 10 years. Especially when compared to the 911 price swings.
These are some reasons why you shouldn't expect 911s to go very low in price. THere is a floor of demand where if they drop to, they get bought up quick. IMagine a 911 with 40k miles on it for 50k... I know you have to imagine because you won't ever see it lol.
I don't understand why and how she was allowed to keep it. I suppose Carvana has written it off on their taxes as a loss or an uncollectable debt. Or perhaps made some kind of insurance claim.
Yeah, luckily they were willing to take the loss rather than fork it over to her, especially seeing all she’d gone through already.👍
Carvana/Bridgecrest are out tens of thousands of dollars (since they neither have the car nor the money) - yet they don't even pursue the fraudulent seller. (4:33)
Which implies that those shenanigans with the washed title might only have been possible because they did sth in a way they weren't supposed to...so they want the attention to go away.
And of course TV (attention).
Hard to say because this story is not clear about what the seller did to "wash" the title. Either he sold it with the lien somehow hidden, or he sold it after somehow tricking the DMV into dropping the lien from the title. In the first case Carvana gave the car back to avoid the bad publicity that would come from making an innocent woman pay for their customer's fraud. In the second case, Carvana gave the car back because, with the lien gone, they had no legal right to take it. I lien fraudulantly removed is still gone.
Because car is legally in her name in VA the PA title is void at that point.
Such a High Dollar Purchase should Never be purchased from a online seller.
Zakly.
Bought my 100k Porsche off Facebook. I've also seen $4 million cars sold on FB. You just sound closed minded. This persons story was a one off case
The rightful owner of the car was the finance company that arranged a mortgage to the seller. If this is the fact, how was the seller able to sell it to a third party ?
The lady has some cool looking furniture too.
Wait. Did she get that car for $25,000 then?
That’s fucking crazy.
Good deal
When it's too good to be true
With that price there has to be some questions, luckily she was able to retrieve back her property
My father and uncle know what to look for when they inspect cars: when they know something is off about the car in question.
Then she took it for a service and immediately realized she couldn't afford it
Real journalism! Amazing work!
Its not their job. All the bank is looking for is ya mam
The seller should be arrested and charged! 😡This is ridiculous he hasn’t been charged yet. 😡 If he gets away with it, then we will start to see more and more cases like this… I hope he gets charged soon this guy is a criminal!
I would never recommend anyone buy a used luxury vehicle, especially a very late model. I've owned luxury vehicles for 15 years, I'm on my 3rd Acura. Luxury vehicles like mine do not depreciate in value very quickly, so buying a used one is almost as expensive as buying a new vehicle, in fact, the one I just bought in December was negotiated below the price of a used car a dealer near my home tried to sell me, I thought they'd lost their minds, I flew to another state that gave me nearly 7k of MSRP and drove back home. Only ignorant people pay sticker price.
Just curious does the funds spent to go to another state and paying to register an out of state car counteract the 7,000 of MSRP?
@@JW95322@JW95322 yes, it was well worth it. I bought my truck in Dallas, I live in Louisiana, registration/tax/title/license is the same whether I buy the car in Virginia, Dallas, or here in Louisiana because all of that is based on where you live. I paid 260 for a first class ticket to Dallas, it saved me thousands. The only fee that would be different is the dealer document fees, which is cheaper in Texas than Louisiana.
@JW95322 yes, it was well worth it. I bought my truck in Dallas, I live in Louisiana, registration/tax/title/license is the same whether I buy the car in Virginia, Dallas, or here in Louisiana because all of that is based on where you live. I paid 260 for a first class ticket to Dallas, it saved me thousands. The only fee that would be different is the dealer document fees, which is cheaper in Texas than Louisiana.
Appreciate you answering that with class. Thats informational
@@JW95322 there's no competition in Louisiana, there aren't many dealers where I live so they have no incentive to discount a car, find the letter volume dealers and I'll guarantee they're not letting a sale walk away.
A random person is still more trustful than any dealer.
ok whatever you say
I wouldn't say so
ur like 10 years old im sure
Degenerate
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That is why you don’t buy from crap sites like both of them
Glad to hear she got her car back :)
I don't know if they were legally responsible for returning it to her, but good on Carvana for giving it back.
The old saying "If it's to good to be true, it probably is"
Don't buy from the usual suspects, PA title transfers require a notary,
Congratulation for her. Super happy she got her car back.. The sellers should have been arrested for fraud!!
Thank you for helping her out because that is crazy. He just walks away with 25k is crazy
The seller is a genius 😅