Would You Like A Quality Street? - Episode 43, Day 80 - Manchester to Starbeck
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- It's the 25th of July, and we've got to get from Manchester over to Yorkshire, via Bradford, Leeds and a few other places inbetween. Vicki hands out some chocolates on the train, just don't leave the wrappers behind, because someone will have to clear the them up. Oh and Geoff's got a cold ...
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I first encountered "friends of" stations in Brighouse when we get a train direct to London from there - my mother used to live just up the hill from Brighouse.
The friends do the gardening and also greet passengers - my partner who is disabled was helped tremendously by the friends both positioning us on the platform (with in 50 cm of the door!) and help with the luggage and getting him on board.
John Warner terrific info!
And, what is more, they must be very innovative folk in Brighouse if they were showing 'talking pictures' in 1906. The rest of the world was still amazed that the pictures actually moved - they would be gobsmacked if the pictures had talked as well!
Todmorden looks a bit scary for Germans... "Tod" is death, "morden" is the verb to murder.
So they wouldn't like Morden station on the northern line too.
Good thing I’m not german
Wouldn't the murder of death be a positive thing?
Cpr1234 and it’s on the black line, the colour typically associated with death
While we're at it, there are other station names that have a meaning in German. For instance "Sandbach" means "sand stream" and "Furzton" means "fart noise".
Def go back to Hebden Bridge when you have time, gorgeous little town that :)
''We've had a Pacer free day in the north'' oh the envy of every Northern commuter who has to ride a Pacer to and from work most days!
I seem to be getting pacer and sprinters coupled together on my commute from Rochdale to Victoria, obviously I choose the sprinter carriage
I've had a Pacer free day in the North West doing a Lancashire day ranger visiting cities:
Transpennine 350 - Manchester to Preston
Northern 185 - Preston to Blackpool
Northern 156 - Blackpool to Preston
Virgin 390 - Preston to Lancaster
Virgin 390 - Lancaster to Wigan
Northern 319 - Wigan to Liverpool
Transpennine 185 - Liverpool to Manchester
I'm a spoilt brat from the South, so I get a 450.
I get a 717 peeps
@@english_trains_buses92 I get 906
Why is there a costa at starbeck but not an actual Starbucks? Seriously, Starbucks has missed a trick
Dan Hughes Costa more upmarket? :)
Dan Hughes I believe there is one further up knaresborough road
No Starbucks in Starbeck
By chance this Costa only opened the week before Geoff and Vicky visited
Starbucks actually etymogically roots back to Starbeck, a whaling family
Now is the Sprinter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this run to York.
Dear fellow, -simply eloquent.xxx
Excellent video, cant believe its almost over but the memories will live forever!
Is that a new version of the music I hear?
MrGreatplum yes, think so, noticed that too!
So did I it is more piano music anyway I like it. 😊
Famous fact about Ilkley - in 1967, Jimi Hendrix (and his Experience, we mustn't forget them) played the building across from the railway station. The concent was a roaring success, but overan quite badly, so much so that the power was cut just as Jimi Hendrix was finishing the next to last song. Jimi is said to have just grinned, and whipped out an acoustic guitar and played the last song unplugged. He also was quite amiable about the cut power, remarking "To be fair, if I was in charge and an act was overunning as bad as we were, I'd have pulled the plug too.". Jimi Hendrix, what a gent.
So Starbeck has a Costa....
brand new, apparently. had only been open a couple of day just before we got there.
All The Stations It's not a facade is it, taken down the day after you passed through??
Wow. Last went to Starbeck in... dear lord. 1976 or so :D
Hali...fax. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Lots of lovely looking stations. Keep up the great work!
Second Class was officially changed to Standard Class by InterCity in 1990. This was following a marketing study which found that the name "Second Class" was off-putting to budget-conscious business travelers.
Source: The InterCity Story (1964-2012); Chris Green & Mike Vincent; page 49
(reminds himself, next time he's objecting to some bit of mistreatment by his municipal government, to accuse them of treating him like a standard-class citizen)
Second class was changed to standard class on 11th May 1987.
I vaguely remember from the time a newspaper article claiming that there were still a very small number of third-class carriages about until then, and it was only when they were finally withdrawn that second class could officially be abolished. Am I completely deluded?
Note that my post is according to Wikipedia at the time I posted it.
It's a lot more complicated than that, 2nd class was first removed completely in 1875 (first of all by the Midland railway) to leave just 1st class and an improved 3rd class that was halfway between the old 2nd and 3rd classes. Then in June 1956 2nd class made a reappearance when 3rd class was redesignated, until, as correctly mentioned, May 1987 when Standard replaced 2nd class.
I would recommend reading The Etymologicon by Mark Forsyth - he notes that Starbucks is (very indirectly) named after Starbucks.
Named after Starbeck!
You also managed to get a shot of a West Yorkshire bus in NBC poppy red livery going over the Starbeck level crossing. It could have been 1986....
did vicki give the driver a chocolate?
Glowing review of Ilkley, there. Would you say you've never seen its... ilk?
STOP IT! YOU KEEP PUTTING IN NEW STEPHEN MUSIC AND IT'S FAB! 😃👍 But PLEASE you need to sell it! So may I respectfully, and LOUDLY, request a full ATS album? Pretty please?! 🤓
Late comment some of these lines from Manchester into Yorkshire are good beer sessions routes. You must take time out and do Hebden Bridge it's a brill place.
Also where was Castleton (Vicki it's name has Castle in it) and Rochdale home of the co-operative movement.
Todmorden is pronounced "Todd-mu-denn"
Originally there was first, second and third class. Second class was gradually phased out over the years. In 1956, third class was renamed second class, and in 1987, was further renamed standard class.
Hebden Bridge is a spectacular town, think Yorkshire meets Brighton but quaint. Heptonstall above the town is where Sylvia Plath's grave is.
You should have totally stopped there
You’re last train you caught was a sprinter train that you sat in attached to a pacer train so you could of had a non pacer free day if you sat in the pacer instead of the sprinter
Slightly disappointed you appear to have missed out the stops between Harrogate and Leeds, including Horsforth and Headingley. Does anyone actually use Kirkstall Forge yet?
Nothing was missed out! We stopped at ALL the stations.
I don't doubt that, but it would have been nice to have seen them on the video. Congratulations on the Kickstarter, by the way.
I live in Bradford and I don't believe there are any pointers on the paving in regards to getting to Bradford Interchange from Bradford Forster Square station. The only pointers on the paving are pointers to where Bradford Beck runs underneath Bradford city centre. The Forster Square arches look even better in the evening when illuminated. Bradford city centre some fantastic Victorian architecture that Vicki would like.
With Halifax being my Local station, I found out about how they made quality streets!
Ilkla Moor Baht 'at - a Yorkshire folk song considered by some to be the unofficial anthem of Yorkshire.............. Ilkley is a beautiful place!
John R And there are loads of videos of trains playing the tune on their horns.
Great episode! 🚂
6:29 Fun Fact: The creator of Sooty & Sweep, Harry Corbett, lived in Guiseley (and played piano in Harry Ramsden's restaurant (being his nephew)).
Thanks man I love sooty and sweep
You have finally gone through Hebden Bridge, a big hi to Debs and Oscar, we always go to Hebden Bridge when in the UK, great looking station.
I sponsored Hebden Bridge station! Been so excited for this episode! :D
Not only is Heiden Bridge a lovely station, it's a lovely village too! Worth getting off the train for. Caches too... 😉
I think Todmorden is more famous because it's where Dr Harold Shipman honed his killing skills.
Errr he was in Hyde near Ashton under Lyne
After completing his hospital training at Pontefract General Infirmary he went into General Practice in Todmorden. Honestly.
So Dr. Shipman moved to a town with the German name "Deathmurder"?
I think this episode is the surprise episode. A northern 333 and 321! I was expecting that though through the David Frankel show
"A second-class return to Dottinghab"? If that's not product placement, I don't know what is. ;)
And Starbucks _is_ named after Starbeck, via Moby-Dick.
Fun fact: If you translate "Todmorden" to German, you get "Deathmurder".
It's almost Deathmurders in Scandinavian too. Almost, but not quite.
So I had to look it up and No, that's not what it means.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todmorden#Toponymy
"The generally accepted meaning of the name is Totta's boundary-valley, probably a reference to the valley running north-west from the town."
Of pronunciation Vicki and Geoff, Todmorden is spoken as Todmadn (short 'a' sound).
Another model village which was dry was Bournville home of Cadbury chocolates.
Yes, we went there in Episode 23 th-cam.com/video/CY6pEVFrWEk/w-d-xo.html
Pullman, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, standard and Parliamentary, but they didn't all exist at the same time
I live in Bradford and did you like the talking trains to ilkley
The monuments at 10:06 , as well as representing the cotton trade that Bradford was well known for, also symbolizes the two railway stations - each of the monuments is a station and they don't meet.
The markers on the ground between the two stations are very subtle - I believe they're just small metal plates with the NR logo on them and two arrows entitled 'F' for Forster Square and 'I' for Interchange.
Shame that the real Forster Square station is no more, just like Rawson market, all things that figure highly in my childhood that have sadly vanished.
Bradford was not a cotton town! It was worsted that made it world famous (it is reckoned that in the early 20th Century around 90% of the world's worsted cloth was at least partially traded or made here). The 'thread' sculpture has no sign claiming meaning, and I always assumed it was to celebrate the electrification of the Aire Valley!
The 'markers' that are supposed to link the stations are tiny, ill positioned, pavement studs. It is one of many reasons why Forster Square stands as an example of how to redevelop a station to make it much worse than what it replaced.
Todmorden is pronounced todd mud don, and is in yorkshire and part of the leeds - blackpool and rochdale line. Todmorden also have a fantastic market, and interesting building perched on the hills.
'Todmoden' as I think it's pronounced has a lot of supernatural spooky things going on
YAY!!! Harrogate my home town :-)
Ricky Nowis Visiting Harrogate later this week!
Ricky Nowis same bro
Keith Spillett is it just the video coming out later this week or are they filming there later this week?
pyrofizzy I'm not sure, but Geoff mentions Harrogate on this episode, so it's possible they've already been. Mind you, I would have expected them to feature a place as important as Harrogate if they'd been there. My wife and I are having a night in Harrogate on our way further North, as she's never been there. Planning afternoon tea at Betty's!
Keith Spillett just to mention, be prepared to wait in a long queue at Betty's. heads up
You didn’t do all the All the stations
@Typical Trains no they missed out the station were I live
Why leave Bingley out? It always left out!
Up for Bingley my home town lovely victoria..n station too..
You guys skipped Mythlomroyd and Sowerby Bridge.
Knaresborough is a great station out of a tunnel at one end and onto a cool bridge and it has a castle !
And MOTHER SHIPTON'S CAVE..
5:17 that's the woman from the sexist air conditioning video!
Salty I knew I recognised her from somewhere!
Salty Could I have a link to the video??
So it is! She writes for the Telegraph? I thought they were a little bit more conservative in their leanings than (extreme) feminism.
Green Triangle, is the best quality street.
ClassicGamerX11 VERY TRUE IT IS ALSO MY FAVOURITE QUALITY STREET
ClassicGamerX11 mine is toffee penny
Strawberry or Toffe penny
They were my favourite too, Not because it's the same shape and colour of the illuminati though.
Mine is milk choc block
The Purple Quality Street is the best one, anyone who claims otherwise is wrong.
The gold penny toffee for the win!!!
WTF, the best one is the long yellow one, everyone else is a liar.
UniversityOfTurmoil toffee penny is bomb
UniversityOfTurmoil I basically like all of the except the Strawberry and orange ones
I don't like any of them except the strawberry and orange ones.
I remember my first time in Bradford, was at the Interchange station and standing on the platform which the Grand Central use. Across the station is a road and sometimes buses go down this road, my first time there a bus is backing up and hit the wall, the bus driver got out and had a quick look and said to himself but loudly 'how did this happen'
Quite funny
I noticed there's a Costa at Starbeck, did you find out if there's a Starbucks?
Hi there,
I'd like one of those T-shirts that Vicki's wearing in this video? Are they available for the public?
Thanks,
Jeremy
Lovely video - managed to see it before I left for work! I see the haters are up early today. 😯
14:03 well done vicki
You skipped Guiseley I'm from there
U haven’t done maghull north on merseyrail
what is your favourite stop of the trip
Vicki is lovely xx
Starbeck? I live like 30 minutes away from a town named Starbuck. So... ya, top that... I guess, I don't know this a a weird comment.
WE WANT THIS SOUNDTRACK
the new mix ... ?? heh he. you noticed!
How could you pass through Harrogate without pointing out that the local football club is called Harrogate Railway?!
Do you go via Hakifax that is where the big quality street is in England
Hello There, this is a great video, thank you for sharing this, it looks very decent and very scenic throughout, thank you for sharing this, it's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :)
Now I have "Ilkla Mooar Baht at" going round my head... ta for that! 😜
Hi Geoff and Vicki, Liked the shots of the "Railway Station' and the "Welcome to Ilkley Railway Station" 'plaque, plus Geoff saying Railway Stations. Keep it up.
a heathrow express train on northen?
The Class 333 was built off the body of a 332.
Will there be a video featuring your visit to the Yorkshire Coast Line?
I am glad you like my local town- Ilkley! :)
How did you not get off at keighley (my local station) and check out the quaint town of Haworth on the keighley worth valley heritage line
Vicki should have known it is quaint
Shipley is a lot like Earlestown in St Helens.
The intro needs to change the chanting to "awkward stations" :)
How can it be a Costa at Starbeck station. I'm disappointed!
In my very first job after leaving school as a Trainee Chartered Surveyor, I spent two weeks holding the end of a tape measure as the firm I was working for undertook a valuation of Kirkstall Forge. We measured every building in the then GKN owned Kirkstall Forge but at least it taught me that I didn't want a career as a Chartered Surveyor! Looks a bit different now than it was in 1974
My area... and boy do we have some strange names up here... At least for a Southerner which I am.... Todmorden for instance todmordon is more todd mdon... Sowerby is more Sore by than sow er be...and I notice you didn't even try Mytholmroyd... and yes brighouse is bridges... I thought Brighouse meant a prison, it means Bridge House
Can't believe I missed you at my local station (Kirkstall Forge)! Oh well, maybe another day eh 🚂
the purple wrapper one is my favourite only because it as a nut inside it as I just love the nut with the soft caramel
Can’t get over how stunning the countryside is; touring by Rail has to be the best way to see the real Britain (!!) Best Railway workers in the world …
Nice to see where some place names in Canada originate. There's Halifax, Nova Scotia, of course. And Toronto has a bunch of districts (like Chelsea in London). I live in Todmorden.
RoulinBrooks Funnily enough I know people from both Bedford, CA and Bedford, UK. Also with both Londons
Jayden Veilstein I'm originally from California and never heard of Bedford! But there is one near where I used to live in Massachusetts. (Did someone confuse CA & MA?!)
gobears6487 no, I'm talking about Bedford in Nova Scotia, Canada. I lived in a house just 15 minutes away for two months last year :)
Jayden Veilstein Ahhhhhhh! So CAN may be less confusing than CA... Or NS for Nova Scotia (& ON or ONT for Ontario) 🤓😃
You've heard of Canada, right?
In fact Starbeck in Harrogate is the origin of the surname Starbuck* - which was a popular name among whalers in Nantucket, which led to the name being used in Moby Dick which was the inspiration for the name of the coffee shop - so Geoff, you weren't far off the truth.
* blog.inkyfool.com/2014/07/harrogate-and-moby-dick.html
OKAY WHO WANTS A TRAIN STATION AT LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT
**Tod-more-den** is how you pronounce Todmorden, I'm local to Hebden Bridge... lol
Bradford! Ilkley! Saltaire! Thanks for bringing back some memories from my university days!
Good to see they finally got that massive pit filled in next to Forster Square, though the non-descript shopping centre lacks the 'quirkiness' of the pit.
You studied in the Uni of Bradford? By the way I studied in Leeds before
Since this video, the class 333 trains have been refurbished between 2018 and 2020.
My last name is Bradford 😂
Tom Bradford well good for you
Vicki needs to work on her Todmorden pronunciation, it's Tod-ma-den
All the stations + toast = Daily routine
Love the Costa Coffee right by Starbeck Station! A quick aside, which cameras have you two been using on your trip?
Keith Spillett look for a video on Geoff's channel that describes what cameras they use!
'It has a really nice...' *cut to shot of Costa*
She’a a Brig! House! 🕺🏽
My favourity Quality Street toffee is Crunchy Frog
I'd be surprised if Geoff didn't recognise the design of the Class 333s they took, considering the Heathrow Express uses similar Class 332s
I fear Geoff's stuffed nose may be affecting his mind. They abolished carriages without a roof in about the 1840s, a while before anyone thought of Standard Class.
The Railway Regulation Act, 1844. This specifically required third-class carriages to have a roof and proper seats - some companies just redesignated their old third-class stock as fourth-class...
From my background reading, I’ve found that in the early part of the 20th century there was only first and third classes. In *1956*, third class was renamed to second class. In *1987*, second class was renamed to standard class.
I did a quick video to show Geoff exactly where the direction signs are for walking between Forster Square and Bradford Interchange. It's not a great video, but here it is:
th-cam.com/video/dqtzcKzDfWE/w-d-xo.html
Strawberry cream 🤢😱😱
I live in Sunderland
Geoff, top respect for taking the time to edit this one! Have the editors gone awol?
All the Dans!
Mushroom train