Obscure and Forgotten PS1 3D Fighting Games | Kim Justice
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- Although many 3D fighting games came out during the 32-bit years, a lot of them have now fallen by the wayside -- this video hopes to dig up some obscure memories, whether it's a Jurassic Park based fighter, a Tekken rip-off, or something that's just plain bad. Enjoy!
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0:00 Intro
1:24 Ad: RetCon
1:47 Zero Divide 1 + 2
5:50 Criticom
8:55 Cardinal Syn
11:25 Star Gladiator
14:15 Warpath: Jurassic Park
16:49 Evil Zone
19:25 Kensei: Sacred Fist
22:15 Killing Zone
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Had a ton of fun with Evil Zone back in the day, you become insanely overpowered at a sliver of health left. Lots of comeback moments when you'd think it was a sure KO
I actually Still have my copy from 20 plus years ago i love that game
Literally the game that brought me here. Couldnt remember the title!
Evil Zone is an excellent game, and criminally under rated. Every character has the same simple, easy to learn button inputs, but they govern a completely unique and complex move set, that varies based on the distance the fight is taking place over (each move input will do one of three different moves depending on whether you're right in the opponent's face, a short, or a long distance away). Some moves are un-dodge-able, some are unblockable, and the fight revolves around using the right tool for the right situation to create enough space to power up.
And the comeback mechanics are insane. At a certain point, it takes longer to ENTER THE CHARGE ANIMATION than it does to charge up to max power...Always liked Setsuna, Midori and Danzaiver myself...Ihudulca/Ihudurca too but she was brutal as a boss though. Insanely agressive and it felt like she recovered fom her attack animations just a smidge faster than the player did.
@@NeroLordofChaos I liked Setsuna and Danzaiver, mainly because they were the characters in the demo, and I'd learned them pretty well by the time I got the full game. Played a lot of Kakurine as well, mainly because her voodoo doll like hold move used to really annoy my flatmate 😂
@@lightsonno1home311 I always forget Kakurine. Liked her too.
I absolutely loved evil zone. The whole Danzavier story was brilliant . The voice acting puts resident evil to shame 🤣🤣
Played by Duke Nukem's Jon St. John. 😎
My favourite one you didn't mention is Destrega - a proto-arena fighter from the Dynasty Warriors devs. They have a fully voiced story campaign they dubbed into English...except they forgot to extend or shorten the animations to match the lengths of the new lines, so sometimes characters just sit in silence for several seconds, or the conversation falls out of sync with the animation
Heck, how about Dynasty Warriors itself.
The series has come so far since it's fighting game roots on the PS1
Was wondering if this one will be mentioned. Had an absolute blast with it back in the day.
i love destrega think i still got the game sitting on my shelf
@@vladstad8102 Destrega was awesome too.
Evil Zone is great! I completed every single character's story as a teen and unlocked everything. You get messages from all the characters after. And the gameplay does make sense once you grasp it.
Loved the defensive animations of KENSEI. Far better than what's found in modern fighters today.
Indeed!
Loved it as a kid, played a lot with my brother
Kensei Sacred Fist has a pretty good soundtrack. Akira Yamaoka has produced a few tracks for that game.
Yes! It was very memorable for me
He did? Wow! No wonder I loved some of the tracks!
Tobal No1 needed to be here
Right? How does a Jurassic Park game end up on an 'obscure' fighting game list, but Tobal doesn't?
Tobal 2 is the greatest, most subtle and complex fighting game I've ever played. It's truly a masterpiece.
Dunno how but I managed to land Tobal myself.. I heard the sequel was even better
My favorite 3D PS1 fighter is Psychic Force which is oddly close to Evil Zone in style, only with characters freely flying around.
The thing I remember about Cardinal Syn is a store still having a pile of sealed copies of it ten years ago. Maybe they've gotten rid of all of them by now.
Found out about Evil Zone because of the fact that the same dev worked on the SmackDown games. It looks really fun to play and it definitely is to watch
The standard of your videos, the knowledge, the research, the presentation and the entertainment value is top notch. One of my favourite retro channels. Thanks Kim
This will be cool to see! The first 3 Tekken games and Soul Blade is what i was playing back in the 90s so will be interesting to see the hidden gems!
Oh yeah he's still Wei Long to me dammit I'll never accept Maxi, used to love putting the ai on no weapons pinch only on rocks cliffside stage
What I love about early '00's cd based games is some came with 2 for 1 in game that had a secret 2nd game you unlock by button combo in the intro screen.
I actually loved Evil Zone, oddly. I was a weird teen.
I loved it too, it was crazy fun to play
It was a pretty jaw dropping moment for this gamer when Solo: A Star Wars Story made not only had characters refer to the martial art Teras Kasi but actually fight using it! Plus Evil Zone was and always be amazing, and the cheesy voice acting is burned into my mind and phrases slip into my everyday life when I know no-one gets what I’m on about.
Same video idea, but...DREAMCAST? 🤔🥰
Dreamcast was the olden days most are cult classics and not forgotten
There's not enough for a vid
I thought you were going to cover the 3D fighter called "Vs". Very obscure! Keep that in note for part 2 lol. Great video!
*Battle Arena Toshinden* 😢
...damn, now I ought to give Battle Monsters a proper shot. Even badmouthed it once, my bad.
Evil Zone is kind of a weird thing. Yukes made that game (sure enough you could find the tutorial dummied in one of their WWE games) and the game has a special little movie celebrating the game with all of the VAs doing their acting and whatnot while talking of a sequel that obviously didn't come.
Kensei (or Bu Gi) did have a couple of interesting movesets. The Seagal clone was a curious surprise though.
Doing something like this for the N64 sounds fun though I don't think there are many games there. I remember GASP and the character creator, Fighters Dynasty and its point system, Dark Rift which was already mentioned and I think there were another two but that's it.
If you do make a sequel with PS1 titles in mind though, I'd suggest Fighters Impact, Happy Slap Rhythm Busters, the Wu-Tang game and Shaolin.
Never even heard of that Jurassic Park fighting game, when I saw the footage in the intro I thought, "I didn't know they made a 3D Primal Rage!". 😝
The thing I will always remember about Evil Zone is when Retsupare did commentary over a long play of the Gally and the Paul Eiding sent them a tweet finding it hilarious.
I think he actually commented on the video itself saying it was funny and that they were essentially asked to ham it up hard and given the game we're talking about... they delivered with gusto.
Brilliant, Kim! More PlayStation compilation reviews like this, please! Would also like to hear about obscure 3D fighting games on PS2 as well.
Great video!
For the N64; be sure to include "Fighters Destiny"!
I have a soft spot for Cardinal Syn. It's not bad once you know all the mechanics, the push/shove, and some combos. It has a big cast and intro and ending movies for each of them.
I never heard of that Jurassic Park fighter. Need to check that out.
Cool video. Keep them coming!
LOVED this game myself. Got mine from a car boot sale as an accidental pack-in with THPS2 (It was a "Backup" for my chipped PS1 :P ), It didn't even have a label on it so I didn't know what it was until I tried to play it! It might have even been a 2 disc game, I have a vague memory of that.
Was a very pleasant surprise!
As always great stuff. In addition, I have noticed over the years you have been doing this you really have improved as a broadcaster. Many TH-camrs, understandably, sound like they are reading from a script. You have developed the the little tricks of depth of voice, timing, confidence and emphasis on certain words that gives your videos more dynamism.
Another great episode! I love fighting games. You must have upscaled these games to 4K because they look amazing!
Legit, how do you not have a million subs, your content is so aces.
I remember playing a PS1 fighting game called Vs. constantly when I was growing up.
You hit the nail on the coffin about Konami’s fighting game history Kim. What’s weird is they spent tons of money on the arcade only, canned Panasonic M2 fighting game Battle Tryst which had cutscenes by Mamoru Oshii and character designs by Shujiro Hamakawa, who made the character designs for the underrated anime SoltyRei.
Interesting that Konami’s most successful fighting game has probably been TMNT Tournament Fighter[the SNES Version though even the NES and Genesis/Mega Drive versions are more well known than Konami’s obscure fighters].
Sad thing is Konami is sitting on a Bloody Roar rerelease or reboot goldmine especially if the Snake Eater Dekta announcement or success of its compilations have anything to say. Damn Pachinko execs
Dragoon Might is an interesting one in that nobody really thinks it's bad, but it's disappeared from history and even the people who break down other similarly old forgotten fighters tend to stay away from it for whatever reason. That's the one i would suggest people try out besides SNES Tournament Fighters, if they want to try a Konami FG.
Kim I hadn’t heard of any of these .. just getting into fighting games .. might certainly need to look up the dinosaur fighter! Thanks!
Memories unlocked with some of these! Great vid, Kim!
Dude YES. YOU LIFESAVER. IVE BEEN TRYING TO REMEMBER EVIL ZONE FOR 18 YEARS 😂😂 . I typed obscure fighting games into YT and you pulled through for me. You hero
Quite a treat to see EvilZone on here. I won a complete copy of that many years back at my local game shop via a quiz game they held. Went home to play it and I was floored at how weird and campy it was. The scenes in between fights was exactly like a 90s English dubbed anime, it's great.
I was hoping you'd mention Destrega, that's another 3D fighter on PS1 that a cousin and mine played alot as kids.
Also Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring was another strange game that was mostly a 3D fighter (featuring Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth and other FF characters!) but it also had a separate RPG and Mini games. Very weird and I still have my copy. I swear Playstation had the wildest library of games.
Kim. Great video. You’re pushing legendary status 💯
Kensei just plays so slowly. I bought it in an outlet, found a bit of humor in the Steven Segal-like Douglas and unlocking the characters. Never been the biggest Virtua Fighter fan but I might look into Zero Divide.
Evil Zone is a game that's got a very interesting premise since every character is kind of a different archetype from an action manga / anime: you got your "Power Ranger" type upstanding hero, you got your massive swordwielding dark fantasy hero, a dark urban horror protag who's possessed by his evil sword, the smooth urban fantasy magician that's ruthlessly efficient, the spunky battle series protagonist girl, the soft yet stern shoujou heroine who fights for her cursed love... and everyone's storymode plays out like it's an episode in the chosen characters genre. Even if their personalities don't change, they come across as quite different depending on the "genre" you pick, it's a pretty ambitious undertaking all in all. Even if you don't like the way it plays, it's hard not to admire how thoroughly they sell the vision.
Alas that it, like Star Gladiator, didn't sell well enough to carry on, even if the teams survived. I really do wonder how come Star Gladiator didn't become a winner... was Soul Calibur just too popular? Or are they entirely unrelated?
I remember once playing Evil Zone at someone's house back in the day and while I loved the presentation I had no clue of how the controls worked, it felt so random, I even remember asking the other kids if we could just go back to playing KOF '98 instead.
you got me there bringing up warpath jurassic park. i used to emulate it and thought it was the most precious hidden gem in the jurassic park game series. we need a sequel badly.
I came here to make a comment about Evil Zone (a game that I love) and I am pleasantly surprised that there are several people here who have already made positive comments about Evil Zone. That's really awesome!!
Great video! I had fun with Kensei back in the day. 👍
I come back to The Zero divide OSTs again and again, love them
Zero Divide 2 was my fighting game of choice back in the day. Mainly because I could convince my mother, that it was a suitable game for little me, because the fighters were robots. In reality, I think the visuals were more gruseome than in Tekken f.e. as you could see the brains etc. controlling the robots, when they were damaged enough. I did have great fun with the game and I especially enjoyed the audio design, which you did mention as well.
I absolutely loved Star Gladiator. Wish it would make a comeback
Im not a hardcore fighting games player but even I know this game is CRIMINALLY underrated. Imagine a sequel with more modes, players, animations ... A game less arcady and more focused on the home experience. This would be a valuable IP at time. Maybe they would continue now like a space opera Soul Calibur.
@@taionalmeida5337 a lot of games would do well to adopt a Mortal Kombat style story mode. They have pretty much nailed it. Would love to see the other fighting franchises go down that route
Same. Some horrific but loveable characters
I'll like to see an N64 version of this, there are tons of one on one stinkers on that machine too.
evil zone was one of my faves i used to like drawing the characters from the intro scene and booklet !
Evil Zone was actually called, In Japan, Eretzvaju, or 封神領域エルツヴァーユ, Fūjin Ryōiki Erutsuvāyu, and I remember the opening song (of anything it’s been an earworm for me since late 2000), as it was quite uncommon to have a pretty high quality anime opening video for a game in a time in which cutscenes were pre-rendered cgi without exception. And the theme is interesting in a “sounds exactly of its time”, as it feels like a b-side for one of the opening or ending themes for an anime of the time like “Slayers” or any of its sequels.
For me the best thing about the PS1 was the fighting games! With so many to choose from, often times weirder WAS better. Obviously the exception would be when the weird design was just awkwardly executed, and lacked deftness to its vision, but not in Evil Zone's case, or Star Gladiator. Worth mentioning Dynasty Warriors 1 at this point- a really fun and weird weapon fighter that didn't really know what it wanted to be, but it was cleared Tecmo- or whoever it was- chucked a ton of money at it hoping it would stick; the cutscenes were great!
God bless emulation, so many people are discovering the PS1 era weirdness, and I'm here for it. Thorhighheels makes a good point that there's a distinction between euro weirdness, and American weirdness. I prefer the euro XD. We had the best mags (Playstation Planet, anyone?)
I was never a fan of these early 3-D Fighters , I remember these games and they weren't very good at the time And most certainly have an aged well, I would still rather go back and play the classic 2D street fighter 2
Yeah. The early 3D games having aged worse than older 2D games is well known. As for fighting games, well 2D ones are still being made!!!
I wish that One Must Fall 2097 had gotten a sequal on PS1. Such an awesome game, and it would probably have worked great in 3D as well.
I seem to recall that it does have a 3D sequel on PC.
@@mr.vidjagamez9896 Yeah, but it's a behind-the-player affair rather than a side-on fighter iirc.
Robo Pit - no so well known and fairly unique.
Great video! 😎
The Kim Justice logo audio sounds very familiar. What is it? It gives me a nostalgic feeling.
i remeber playing the demo for cardinal sin over and over but i could never find it in the shops
I so remember the Jurassic Park one... I didn't consider it too bad. Interesting the blood effect is the same in a number of games, was there an inbuilt effect for this or was it shared between games somehow? At the risk of you saying "No, you've got the wrong person"... I was in Helmond NL at the Home Computer Museum last week and talked to someone vaguely familiar, but couldn't quite remember from where, is it possible I unintentionally met you?
Despite the fact that I knew it was janky and broken at the time, I had a lot of fun playing Kensei: Sacred Fist back in the day. For me it had a weird sort of atmospheric charm to it. Plus I absolutely loved the music. But in retrospective, even though I personally had a lot of fun, I'd have trouble recommending it to people who weren't open-minded about the experiences they were about to undertake.
20:54 Douglas is basically Steven Seagal.
Another great video Kim 👍🏻
I feel like I’ve been the only person to ever play Shaolin or Lord of Fist as it was also known as. 3D fighter, developed by THQ, set in ancient China. Such a good game and the ring out splat still rings in my head 20 years later… damn I’m old
This was a great trip down some old, weed strewn paths of the PS1 era. Please do an N64 and Saturn equivalent! 😊
WOW! Smashing selection of games! 🤟😎
Fantastic video
I really liked Kensei as a teenager. I think it was the fact that all the fighters felt grounded in reality - no monsters or cyborgs or fireballs or anything like that. It made it easier to pretend I was in a cheesy martial arts movie while I was playing it.
I had completely forgotten about Kensei. I used to love beating up Steven Seagal (there called ‘Douglas) on that game.
Where is Ehrgeiz? I know it wasn't technically available in the UK but there were workarounds.
The Zero Divide games were great. Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why they played similar to Virtua Fighter (and in fact Dead or Alive) is because they used the same game engine. Unless I've remembered wrong or I'm purposefully spreading misinformation for a laugh. Either of those things are possible.
Recent fan of this channel, really can't wait for the saturn version so Kim can talk about one of the most underrated game ever made ... LAST BRONX, and it was available for PC also.
i really want to talk about another game that i am not sure on what it was released but it was an anime inspired 3d fighter where the heroes are all kids and they fly around and uses energy blasts, it was a really cool game.
Still i wonder when he will talk about insane werid games on pc, like XTOM 3D, anyone ever played that game ? it was also in arcades and was actually a pc in an arcade cabinet powered by VOODOO 2 tech, Kim should do a whole video on it.
wish someone here can identify me that cyber psy fighting game.
*she
Last Bronx wasn’t at all obscure, it did pretty well and is well remembered.
@@TheBroz i don't mean nothing by it, but is this the same case as Jim sterling ? at least Jim i know how he/she looks like, i don't think i ever seen the face of Kim.
as for Last bronx, i have a lot of good friends that are into fighting game, none of them even heard of Last bronx, it might be popular in some circles but in most parts of the world, it is almost non existent.
Though this one isn't as "weird" and IIRC was a Japan-only release, Fighter's Impact is well worth checking out. The game "Vs." is sort of a Western reskin of it as it's from the same devs, but Fighter's Impact has a lot more interesting combo mechanics that were removed from Vs. Also quite possibly the greatest OST ever for a fighting game - seriously, even if you don't want to play the game, just look up the soundtrack on here and thank me later!
I loved Warpath Jurassic Park, i always wanted a Jurassic park dinosaur fighting game so that game fit that part nicely of course Primal Rage is still my main game and i still play it religiously, but Warpath will always have a special place
If memory serves me correctly, Kensei was the PS1 version of Konami's VF3 rip-off, Fighting Bujutsu. I loved playing that game at Norfolk Naval Base back in the day. 🙂
I loved the street fighter ex series had evil zone and was so confused how sud's a a silly game with so much copy paste in the move scheme could be fun. And i think kensei sacred fist is a hidden gem needed a reboot
I remember playing some Of these games at time on Rental atores (id never had a ps1 or Sat or N64 at their time) and, for all the criticisms these games deserve ... As you said, we have some fun with them at time ✌🏻.
I was never a skilled or hardcore fighting game player - I was more engaging in advance and check the story. So some Of these games where Fine for me BECAUSE Of their simplicity and lack Of depth. Great list and Memories.
Obs: Fighting Games on N64 ... This one would be thought. This and RPG are the places the console show least resistance to their rivals. Maybe Going after some japanese games things get more easy - generally a Fighting (not wrestling) game on the plumber platform where memorable generally by basically existing.
Great job
I found out about Evil Zone because of Austin Eruption bashing it on his channel. It's definitely not a very complex game, but I wouldn't say that it's bad.
Zero Divide 2 i put so many hours in, i actually found in a flea market back in 2000.
Loved the Retsupurae shout out! :D
Gotta disagree about Castlevania Judgment, though. I think it's highly underrated and quite unique. It's got the hottest version of Simon Belmont in any case.
I expected you to mention Blood Lines. Oh well, maybe next time. Still a great video by the way.
It's alarming how many of these games were hidden in my brain until you poked them out. Why was my brain using up space remembering this crap?
With an honourable mention for " thrill kill"
evil zone and star gladiator back in the day I played a heck of a lot of.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask around, but some of these games really reminded me of it so I need to ask: Does anyone remember an old arcade game where the intro movie was a bunch of furry characters brutally murdering some humans? I never got to see what the gameplay was like because the intro scared me shitless as a kid, but it's been bothering me for over 10 years and I've never been able to find it.
Tecmo Knight? Also fun fact, those intro graphics are actually fully uncensored in the ROM
@@zenksren8206 You have no idea how long it's been haunting me but that's the one! We used to have a pc with Mame32 in it and hundreds of ROMs installed by the previous owner, and when I was a kid I'd play them at random knowing little to nothing about most of them. Running into this specific game freaked me out enough that I didn't try any games I wasn't already familiar with for like a year. Thank you SO much for helping me be at peace with this memory!
I liked some of those games, Kaboobie🐪
My personal favr was Toshinden 3.
Vermillion was ACE
I really love your content…
I still remember really liking the Cardinal Sin demo and actually wanting to buy it besides the mediocre reviews, but I just couldn't find it available for sale or even rental anywhere...
Wow though I seen it all but never heard of most of these so far
Dark Rift on the N64 was pretty decent. I remember renting it twice because I quite liked it.
Good shit, as always
yup. Cardnal Syn unlocked a core memory.
the forbidden taboo unreleased ps1 game Thrill Kill !
was such a blast !
I had started to think I'd just imagined Zero Divide!
I did play Warpath, I rented it in ‘00
God, I have SUCH a soft spot for Evil Zone, and it's almost entirely because of the anime-esque presentation. I had just discovered anime & was entering my early weeb years, so this game spoke to me on that level. With a better fighting system, it'd probably be more fondly remembered.
Well, I doubt my favourite "also ran" PS1 fighter will make the list (Bloody Roar/Beastorizor) due to popularity, but, I've hopes that the first Dynasty Warriors game will make the series at some point
Not a lot of 3d fighting games now
Going through these were interesting but easy to see why they ended up being obscure unfortunately
I feel like Kensei: Sacred Fist is what would happen if Joey Tribbiani took up MMA instead of acting.
I'm surprised Tobal #1 and Battle Toshinden Arena was in this video.
Zero Divide 2 is excellent, it's a Virtua Fighter with robot destruction. And Cardinal Syn is reasonably cool, it looks like a cross between MACE and PowerStone. Warpath I never liked the gameplay, but the graphics are amazing for the time. Kensei I played a lot at the time too, unlock all the characters.
Kensei is underrated. Literally the only two 3D fighting games that are better than Kensei, are Tekken and Soul Edge.
It held up well as a hidden gem of PS1 fighting game, along with Dead or Alive and Bloody Roar.
I would have loved to see the unreleased PS1 game "Thrill Kill" on this list!
Zero Divide is something I always meant to get back to, iirc I rented the first one at least once bitd. Funny coincidence, was just looking at PS1 fighters again and Fear Effect recently, always wondered what happened to that studio.🙂
As awkward as home developed 3D fighting games were I have to give them credit for looking quite good most of the time, in contrast Capcom & SNK's first 3D outings look kind of poor for that era of graphics where Star Gladiator looks a hell of a lot better than SF-EX.
I got Evil Zone bitd for practically no cost Ie. "Take this with you please". I got the same impression from it on how things just kind of happened or didn't, I settled into one character I found that could waggle and mash to victory consistently. Wonderful anime intro though, would have looked a series about that.
Clone games always have that rub, why not just play the original instead? Forgot about that sequel, I think with Battle Monsters there's a charm to actors and or stop motion animation that is completely lost in polygons.
One of their last games was Mister Mosquito on PS2. And EX was technically Arika, not Capcom
@@zenksren8206 Oh no kidding, been meaning to try Mr. Mosquito.🙂 Yeah Capcom seemed to contract out when it was some new tech as they did that with SF:The Movie too. But then they handled the home ports and changed things for the better so they probably should have always handled things first hand. Same with Capcom and the EU computer scene, so many bad arcade ports.