by far the most beautiful 10 seconds in college football Chapters- 0:00 INTRO 0:46 FLORIDA V. MIAMI 3:00 THE FLOP 7:00 BEYOND THE FLOP Sources - docs.google.com/document/d/17...
True, but they today they look like they are trying to arm tackle and then let go, or let themselves get blocked out of the play or something. They don't literally lie down on the field.
So what am i missing: sounds like a chance at net zero gain as you allow 7 points and then can get 7 points. Best case scenario the score line difference doesn’t change.
@@archsys307 i think it's more like a gamble. you think they're gonna score on you anyway bc they're getting close and you wanna ensure your offense has enough time.
@@jackhobbs720 Oh true Let’s see how the expected value works out Game about to be over, your team up on the scoreline but likely about to see a reversal, in which case you would have no time to score again and lose. Assign probability p to that. Then 1-p chance you’d just win by defending. Otherwise you flop and have probability q of winning with the remaining time. As long as you find q to be greater than p flopping becomes the best shot. Eg if you figure there’s a 95% chance they score and a 6% chance you get a TD after letting them score, flop
I don't know what was more shocking. The play itself or the fact that Florida wasted all three timeouts just to get the coach to let the Gators do what they did.
When you're up by 37 points with under 8 minutes to play, the only reason to keep timeouts is for syrupy ceremonial stuff like helping your quarterback get a record.
I was a kid living in Florida, listening to this game on the radio when it happened. I'm a lifetime Gator fan, my dad wasn't. He was mad about the game, I was happy for Reeves and Alvarez.
I've never understood why this caused so many Miami players and fans to break out in tears. I watched the video hoping to find out, and I'm no closer to discovering why. The guy breaking his own bones because he was so distraught is something funny I learned though.
They knew why Florida wanted the ball back so if the defense flops you get enough yards for a first down then flop inbounds so the clock keeps running and you let it run out scoring played right into Florida's hands
I have a hypothesis based on the fact the Pentagon now openly spends millions for pregame ceremonies in NCAA and pro sports. You can take it or leave it and maybe it's a consequence of the military industrial complex and not by design. The military and intel community infiltrated the media (Operation Mockingbird) who used it to moralize about American values that were inconsistent with our foreign policy and corrupt bureaucracy. Best case it was subtle manipulation to program regular people to reinforce their thematic narrative. It set the standard for how authority figures think they need to lead and how subordinates should act to be considered respectful. Nowhere is this more pronounced than in athletics, where coaches and parents treat the game like their little ROTC boot camp where they get to imbue kids with their often erratic habits, but always rooted in respect and authority. So that sports becomes a reflection of your character, and all the spectators get to project and enforce what they believe to be their own organic values. Kids are "good" or "bad" depending on how they act in sports, separate from how they actually compete. You're not just carrying the weight of your position or your team but of all the values your coach, department, school and community has laid on your shoulders.
All Miami had to do to prevent this is run around the field without scoring if they were trying to keep Reeves from getting the record. The fact that the Miami offense was too dumb to realize that is mind bogging. The quarterback was not forced to score.
They would have been hammered for giving up. No win situation. Also, it happened quickly. When you have the ball and an open field to the goal line, you aren't stopping to think, "Hmmm, I wonder why those guys are lying down?" Florida could have gotten the same results without looking so obvious. The art of the flop is an important skill to develop in all sports, especially soccer.
@@tommaxwell429 No. I think it was necessary to let them know just how they felt about them trying to run out the clock and not let them set the record in a game that was already decided. "You don't want to give me what I want in a scenario where you're going to lose anyway? Fine, I'll humiliate you."
A friend of my sister's was a Florida grad, and he mentioned the Florida Flop. Until now I never knew the whole story of what he meant. This was quite a story.
It’s a game. Jeez. It’s funny as hell, and yes deliciously disrespectful, so what? We are beating you so badly that we can allow you to score, that’s your problem
I don’t even get how it’s disrespectful. Just imagine these offended people playing a game of chess. Would they burst into tears whenever their opponent sacrifices a piece? Lol. They’re just embarrassed that their offense was too dumb to simply run out the clock.
Reaves was more than journeyman with the Bandits. He led the three most entertaining back-back-back seasons of professional football in Tampa before the Dungy Era. Buggs, Travillion & Gary Anderson made fans in Tampa love the USFL.
The only thing that could be called 'disrespectful' was the overtness of the flopping - that was just dumb, as it telegraphs to the entire college football world that you're doing this for your QB, which will put an asterisk beside his record in some peoples' minds. But Miami players were so enraged that they cried? Please. There are a lot of things in life worth crying over, and this sure as heck isn't one of them. Years ago the Dallas Cowboys were up by a moderate amount over the GB Packers, and Cowboys coach Barry Switzer let his kicker - at the end of the game - attempt a FG that would result in an NFL record for most FGs in a game. He made it and got the record. GB's coach was mad as a hornet, and so were some dim-witted media personalities, but Switzer made the right call. As he told the GB coach, "He had a chance for an NFL record!" And it was only 3 points, lol. Some people LOOK for ways to get offended.
I think that is a good coach taking away the chance for one of his players to get a NFL record it would have been disrespectful of the coach not to give his player a chance to beat the record I hate the announcers that had a problem with it like that kicker will only ever have one chance to brake that record most likely and we should take that away because u don’t wanna hurt some grown men’s feelings grow up and take it like a man if u don’t want them to score more points stop them from getting close enough to score a field goal if ur not good enough to stop them then u deserve what u got
When one team has already won the game. Then that team is free to try to accomplish any other thing they want. Like helping key players break records or letting their "Rudy's get game time. No reason for anyone to get all Butt Hurt over it.
@tommaxwell429 I gotta agree that it wasn't great sportsmanship, and there were better ways to do it, but yeah, I think the other side also took themselves too seriously. There was at least a legitimate reason to mess around, and they weren't just clowning on them purely cause they could. Gave me a laugh at least, so I'm happy.
Why is this so terrible? This happens in literally every game where the team that is winning has the ball in the final minute. It's just the offense snapping the ball and falling down rather than the defense. I guess the difference is that when the offense does it they are doing something to maximize their chance to win the game, not to let one guy on their break an individual record.
The Miami dude CHOSE to scord. They could have knelt the ball and ran out clock. They were trying to score and cried when they did. After being up like 40. Craziness.
That's a lot of mental gymnastics to go through in a split second when you have a chance to score a touchdown. See the defense flop, analyze what is happening, understand their motive, change your thinking into disrupting their diabolical plan, decide if you can get a first down without scoring, execute! Hell no! I see an open field, I'm going for the goal line!
@@archsys307 You can't call a timeout while the play is active. You expect a kid running for the touchdown to recognize the flop, understand what's going on, assess the possible implications, and make a decision to upend the plan by refusing the touchdown? Nonsense!
The emotions regarding incidents like this just show that people need to lighten up. It is just a game. Adults need to enjoy the moment and have fun cheering for their team during the game and when it is over get over it. I have played baseball, football, wrestled and run track. You have to learn to leave it on the field after the clock runs out. I have seen some really ridiculous behavior by fans, especially at football games, at every level because they were too emotionally immature to be gracious and polite to fans of the other team. Most egregious, in my opinion, being from the Big 10, Ohio State/Michigan. Pathetic how their fans and alumni act like 4-year olds throwing a tantrum when they lose to their chief rival…
@miket8715 How dare you sir!!! My father taught medical school there, My sister got her PHD there, My brother got his MBA there, 1 of my nieces got her MD there, My other nieces boyfriend Wasthe lacrosse team captain For 2 years In any event, I'm sorry for your loss sir. Michigan state must have been tragic Anyway just kidding about the insult to Michigan state But seriously all the stuff about Michigan is real
Indeed, the mob running the Vegas booking scene would agree with ya, "It's just a game, lighten up!" Maybe it wasn't for the QB record at all; maybe it was to upset the Vegas spread.
I hate both teams but I ain't buying the Miami player's claim that they weren't gonna run out the clock, ironically because it's tainted by what he says immediately after about the record being tainted. Nothing that happened in the game tainted it, and caring enough about it to make such a dumb point as that suggests, to me at least, that he most certainly had preventing the record in his head during the game.
The first time I heard about this play, I laughed for about five minutes straight! It's hilarious! If Miami didn't want to give up the passing record, they didn't have to. The play happened on 2nd down and 7. Instead of scoring a meaningless TD when the Gator D lay down, they should have just stopped at the 1, and kept standing there until either the clock ran out or the Gators got tired of lying there and got up, at which point the Canes should have run around as long as possible and if there was any time left after the play, taken a knee on the next play to finish things off. Instead, they opted to play along with the Gators by scoring the TD and cried about it after the game.
That would require knowledge and understanding of Florida's intent. Let's see, I'm a QB with the ball and I see an open lane to the goal line. Would I stop and say, "Hey, something is up here, I wonder what is going on?" Or would I high-tail it to the goal line. I'm thinking the latter.
If you want to understand this older school football concept; just look at the Joe 'Turkey' Jones Hit on Terry Bradshaw from 1976. My father has never forgiven Cleveland to this day. He was 29 years old when it happened and is 76 right now. These dirty plays can affect a classic fan for life.
@BeskarSnake The play was over. Regardless if the play was still active or not, the intent to injure is the main focal point. Even if Bradshaw fought the tackle 'on a live play' he was still deliberately pile driven into the ground. Turkey took the time to go about 10 yards behind the play, lift up Bradshaw, and deliberately try and hurt him. The play is described as one of the most violent plays in NFL history, by experts. Cleveland was up against the Back to Back champs, in a Rivaly game, and used this as a way to send a message. It was as unnecessary as possible. Bradshaw was paralyzed for a while and could have died. The Steel Curtain was so mad, they put mostly zeros on the board the rest of the year. This is not much of an excusable play. I don't care how much you hate the Steelers, that is a terrible argument.
@@f1videowatcher939 I don't believe a whistle was blown but I could be wrong about that. The sack was pretty quick. Either way we just need to remove QBs pads because you can't tackle them.
@@BeskarSnake It's not a tackle no matter how you look at it. Whether you go by the football definition as defined in the rulebook or the google definition, nowhere does it describe lifting somebody off of the ground and slamming them to the ground. Whether there was a whistle or not, it's a clear and deliberate intent to injure.
Interesting video. This game occurred before I moved to Florida in 1995, in fact in 1972 I was only 14 and only knew about the Hurricane’s and not the Gator’s back then. Today I’m a Gator Fan because I live in Central FL, but still like Miami. I can understand the Gators wanting for John Reeves to break Jim Plunkett’s NCAA career passing yardage record, but they didn’t have to make it so obvious allowing Miami to score, I have to agree it was poor sportsmanship. At least Miami had the last laugh/payback winning a National Championship before the Gators.
Miami doesn't have the last laugh at the moment,but will retrieve it again. However, winning a national championship before Florida did is *priceless*!!! (And this from someone who's been a Seminole fan longer than Saint Bobby has)...
There were a couple games when Carson Beck had a chance to beat a couple records, but Kirby usually pulled him out in the fourth quarter to give other QB’s playing time.
With a quick thinking QB stopping at the 1 and walking across the field, killing time & seeing how far the Gators would take it…unlike this, I’m thinking that would’ve made this a more memorable/solid piece of American football history.
That requires a lot of thinking, analyzing, and decision making in a guy that sees an open lane to the goal line. They had no idea what the gators were doing at that moment.
Didn’t affect the outcome of the game. I think it’s great they’d go the distance for a player. GB did the same thing in a Super Bowl. Trying to get the ball to score again. Oooo, such a horrible thing.
Exactly! If time is running down and you feel confident the opposition will probably score at some point for a less than 7 point go ahead, why not? Let them score because you know you need the all the time you can get to win the game. Not quite the case here, but a legitimate tactic.
That talk show host guy was a 🐈 oh it’s a show of disrespect yeah it was it’s football if u don’t wanna be disrespected play better if ur bad enough to let the other team be able to do that it’s ur own fault
Howard Schnellenberger was a curse for Oklahoma, him and 2 has been Oklahoma alumni players that weren’t a factor in the teams past and they haven’t been anywhere close since then
When Florida hired Doug Dickey away from Tennessee (around 1969 I think) it was a bit of a scandal. SEC schools didn't poach another SEC school's head coach.
Every time I watch the movie, "The Last Boyscout" opening scene: Billy Coles gets a call from a criminal he is involved with, takes some illegal drugs then brings a gun onto the field and murders a few guys so he can score -- we all know that character, Billy Coles, went to Miami.
I don't understand why miami were so unhappy about this. Its sad, they had already lost the game and this was about the QB braking a record at his college.
As a Tennessee fan it doesn’t surprise me that Doug Dickey is partially responsible for the flop. He flopped from Tennessee to Florida to take the same position as head coach.
I was also at the game. At the time (as a 7th grader) I thought getting a record was an admirable goal. Later, I changed my mind. Plunkett set the record without trickery, but Reaves needed one more unearned chance. Coach's error, giving in to the third request of his team.
If Miami wanted to run out the clock, the QB could have just held the ball and stood there while the Gators flopped. Of course, he was probably just confused and saw the end zone wide open, so of course he's going to run it in.
...which is why what Florida did was so smart. Flopping just to break a record in a game you already won may be seen by SOME as petty or unsportsmanlike, not not as many as would see it as petty to give up trying at all just to prevent the record in a game you already lost. Thus, if you make it flatly obvious you're not trying to stop them scoring, you basically force their hand and make them score to avoid it.
Can't win! Run up the score and you're slammed. Give up points intentionally, you're slammed. I guess every team needs to develop a half-assed offense for just these circumstances. I think it is awesome!
I watched this like 5 times, read the wikipedia page, a dozen reddit posts and three sports journal articles and I still don't understand what was so appalling about that play. Isn't it just intelligent to do that to get the ball back? 🤨 And by scoring Miami consented to that amicably? The game was already done, why risk anyone getting injured... To me it seems quite sportsmanlike to let someone get the *chance* to go distance in a way that everybody can see. They even tried to stop the receiver in that record breaking play.
Sports has almost nothing to do with competition or gamesmanship. It's just a means for spectators to moralize about sociological themes. Matters of integrity, honor and courage that we almost entirely lack in real life because our society is built on hypocrisy and corruption. None of those players should have felt that kind of shame about the game, especially in that era before it was such a financial opportunity. To break your clavicle trying to hurt the other team in frustration for a flop seems like it would be a lesson about screwed up priorities. And almost all of this is coming from the media, coaches and parents. But mostly the media who feeds us all with their narrative horseshit because they resent not being real journalists.
These days the 'let them score' strategy is being used to get your offense back on the field to win the game. These guys were pioneers.
Yep, Bill Walsh did that in the 80s.
True, but they today they look like they are trying to arm tackle and then let go, or let themselves get blocked out of the play or something. They don't literally lie down on the field.
So what am i missing: sounds like a chance at net zero gain as you allow 7 points and then can get 7 points. Best case scenario the score line difference doesn’t change.
@@archsys307 i think it's more like a gamble. you think they're gonna score on you anyway bc they're getting close and you wanna ensure your offense has enough time.
@@jackhobbs720 Oh true
Let’s see how the expected value works out
Game about to be over, your team up on the scoreline but likely about to see a reversal, in which case you would have no time to score again and lose. Assign probability p to that. Then 1-p chance you’d just win by defending. Otherwise you flop and have probability q of winning with the remaining time. As long as you find q to be greater than p flopping becomes the best shot. Eg if you figure there’s a 95% chance they score and a 6% chance you get a TD after letting them score, flop
I don't know what was more shocking. The play itself or the fact that Florida wasted all three timeouts just to get the coach to let the Gators do what they did.
When you're up by 37 points with under 8 minutes to play, the only reason to keep timeouts is for syrupy ceremonial stuff like helping your quarterback get a record.
That Miami player crying about being hurt as he was trying to hurt a Gator is hilarious
Typical Miami thug. Lol.
That's Burgess Owens lol. Currently in the House of Reps.
George Mills pees sitting down.
@@dtice69 With that vile attitude, he has to be a Republican, right?
and in typical Miami fashion, he lied about the injury to appear to not have had a random injury
Virgin "Run Out the Clock" vs Chad "Gator Flop."
What's next? Kneeling out the last 2 minutes instead of playing a full game?
That's sorta what I thought. With time management becoming such a key part of the game today this seems tame.
As a Florida fan, thank you for this video. I wasn't aware, and this provides more understanding of the history of the Florida-Miami rivalry.
It’s ok Miami players are not really people anyway. Lol.
@@mikepalmer2219Nah, they're dogs! Beasts! 🙌
Love the news anchor completely losing his mind over this. If only I could hear his take on the shoe throw. Great video 👍
I was a kid living in Florida, listening to this game on the radio when it happened. I'm a lifetime Gator fan, my dad wasn't. He was mad about the game, I was happy for Reeves and Alvarez.
I've never understood why this caused so many Miami players and fans to break out in tears. I watched the video hoping to find out, and I'm no closer to discovering why. The guy breaking his own bones because he was so distraught is something funny I learned though.
No one mentions that Miami could have prevented this by NOT scoring but he had end zone in his eyes just like Florida's punt returner
Everyone loves padding their stats@@MarcG7424
If anythings I think intentionally not scoring would be more disrespectful than the flop to let them score
They knew why Florida wanted the ball back so if the defense flops you get enough yards for a first down then flop inbounds so the clock keeps running and you let it run out scoring played right into Florida's hands
I have a hypothesis based on the fact the Pentagon now openly spends millions for pregame ceremonies in NCAA and pro sports. You can take it or leave it and maybe it's a consequence of the military industrial complex and not by design.
The military and intel community infiltrated the media (Operation Mockingbird) who used it to moralize about American values that were inconsistent with our foreign policy and corrupt bureaucracy. Best case it was subtle manipulation to program regular people to reinforce their thematic narrative. It set the standard for how authority figures think they need to lead and how subordinates should act to be considered respectful.
Nowhere is this more pronounced than in athletics, where coaches and parents treat the game like their little ROTC boot camp where they get to imbue kids with their often erratic habits, but always rooted in respect and authority. So that sports becomes a reflection of your character, and all the spectators get to project and enforce what they believe to be their own organic values. Kids are "good" or "bad" depending on how they act in sports, separate from how they actually compete. You're not just carrying the weight of your position or your team but of all the values your coach, department, school and community has laid on your shoulders.
My father passed away still hating UF just because of this play.
It isnt a bad thing to hate UF
I've never not hated the gators
Your dad was a sissy.
Preferred the convicts’ team, huh?
Said Aaron hernandez
All Miami had to do to prevent this is run around the field without scoring if they were trying to keep Reeves from getting the record.
The fact that the Miami offense was too dumb to realize that is mind bogging.
The quarterback was not forced to score.
They would have been hammered for giving up. No win situation. Also, it happened quickly. When you have the ball and an open field to the goal line, you aren't stopping to think, "Hmmm, I wonder why those guys are lying down?" Florida could have gotten the same results without looking so obvious. The art of the flop is an important skill to develop in all sports, especially soccer.
@@tommaxwell429 No. I think it was necessary to let them know just how they felt about them trying to run out the clock and not let them set the record in a game that was already decided. "You don't want to give me what I want in a scenario where you're going to lose anyway? Fine, I'll humiliate you."
Miami players have always had a longer criminal record than academic record.
A friend of my sister's was a Florida grad, and he mentioned the Florida Flop. Until now I never knew the whole story of what he meant. This was quite a story.
It’s a game. Jeez. It’s funny as hell, and yes deliciously disrespectful, so what? We are beating you so badly that we can allow you to score, that’s your problem
I don’t even get how it’s disrespectful.
Just imagine these offended people playing a game of chess. Would they burst into tears whenever their opponent sacrifices a piece? Lol.
They’re just embarrassed that their offense was too dumb to simply run out the clock.
“An emphatic, ‘alright’” LOL!
Reaves was more than journeyman with the Bandits. He led the three most entertaining back-back-back seasons of professional football in Tampa before the Dungy Era. Buggs, Travillion & Gary Anderson made fans in Tampa love the USFL.
I'd call Bandit-ball more entertaining than the Dungy era.
The only thing that could be called 'disrespectful' was the overtness of the flopping - that was just dumb, as it telegraphs to the entire college football world that you're doing this for your QB, which will put an asterisk beside his record in some peoples' minds. But Miami players were so enraged that they cried? Please. There are a lot of things in life worth crying over, and this sure as heck isn't one of them. Years ago the Dallas Cowboys were up by a moderate amount over the GB Packers, and Cowboys coach Barry Switzer let his kicker - at the end of the game - attempt a FG that would result in an NFL record for most FGs in a game. He made it and got the record. GB's coach was mad as a hornet, and so were some dim-witted media personalities, but Switzer made the right call. As he told the GB coach, "He had a chance for an NFL record!" And it was only 3 points, lol. Some people LOOK for ways to get offended.
I think that is a good coach taking away the chance for one of his players to get a NFL record it would have been disrespectful of the coach not to give his player a chance to beat the record
I hate the announcers that had a problem with it like that kicker will only ever have one chance to brake that record most likely and we should take that away because u don’t wanna hurt some grown men’s feelings grow up and take it like a man if u don’t want them to score more points stop them from getting close enough to score a field goal if ur not good enough to stop them then u deserve what u got
This is absolutely worth crying about. Be a real man and cry you loser.
Throw the clip of the flop in with a video of college football trick plays and no one would think it was such a big deal.
When one team has already won the game. Then that team is free to try to accomplish any other thing they want. Like helping key players break records or letting their "Rudy's get game time. No reason for anyone to get all Butt Hurt over it.
True statement, but do it in style. That was not just getting the quarterback back on the field, that was an in-your-face disrespectful insult.
@@tommaxwell429 Miami deserved it for being so stonewall stubborn in a game they were absolutely not going to win.
@tommaxwell429
I gotta agree that it wasn't great sportsmanship, and there were better ways to do it, but yeah, I think the other side also took themselves too seriously.
There was at least a legitimate reason to mess around, and they weren't just clowning on them purely cause they could.
Gave me a laugh at least, so I'm happy.
Why is this so terrible? This happens in literally every game where the team that is winning has the ball in the final minute. It's just the offense snapping the ball and falling down rather than the defense. I guess the difference is that when the offense does it they are doing something to maximize their chance to win the game, not to let one guy on their break an individual record.
Bingo! All the difference in the world. Especially in 1971.
Florida State just did this against Georgia, except they didn't know when to stop flopping 😅
your videos are so immersive for a football Chanel you really create a great atmosphere
Great video! it definitely deserves more attention
you rule! These vids are amazing. The SMU story is also fantastic
Great video. Well paced. I love it.
I remember watching this as it happened. Funniest thing I’ve ever seen to this day. The U? Hilarious
Lmao is that the Taxi Driver soundtrack in the background? It works surprisingly well ngl
The Miami dude CHOSE to scord. They could have knelt the ball and ran out clock. They were trying to score and cried when they did. After being up like 40. Craziness.
*down
That's a lot of mental gymnastics to go through in a split second when you have a chance to score a touchdown. See the defense flop, analyze what is happening, understand their motive, change your thinking into disrupting their diabolical plan, decide if you can get a first down without scoring, execute! Hell no! I see an open field, I'm going for the goal line!
@@tommaxwell429Three timeouts. If you were on the field you would know something strange was going on. Enough to make you pause after the flop
@@archsys307 You can't call a timeout while the play is active. You expect a kid running for the touchdown to recognize the flop, understand what's going on, assess the possible implications, and make a decision to upend the plan by refusing the touchdown? Nonsense!
My main takeaway from this video is that Tony Kornheiser was a writer for the LA Times.
Whatever BS Auburn has planned for that week🤣🤣🤣
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I can’t believe everyone got so butthurt by that
The emotions regarding incidents like this just show that people need to lighten up. It is just a game. Adults need to enjoy the moment and have fun cheering for their team during the game and when it is over get over it. I have played baseball, football, wrestled and run track. You have to learn to leave it on the field after the clock runs out. I have seen some really ridiculous behavior by fans, especially at football games, at every level because they were too emotionally immature to be gracious and polite to fans of the other team. Most egregious, in my opinion, being from the Big 10, Ohio State/Michigan. Pathetic how their fans and alumni act like 4-year olds throwing a tantrum when they lose to their chief rival…
Well, good sir, all reasonable people are of the opinion that Michigan started it by choosing to exist.
@miket8715 How dare you sir!!!
My father taught medical school there, My sister got her PHD there, My brother got his MBA there, 1 of my nieces got her MD there, My other nieces boyfriend Wasthe lacrosse team captain For 2 years
In any event, I'm sorry for your loss sir. Michigan state must have been tragic
Anyway just kidding about the insult to Michigan state But seriously all the stuff about Michigan is real
Indeed, the mob running the Vegas booking scene would agree with ya, "It's just a game, lighten up!" Maybe it wasn't for the QB record at all; maybe it was to upset the Vegas spread.
I hate both teams but I ain't buying the Miami player's claim that they weren't gonna run out the clock, ironically because it's tainted by what he says immediately after about the record being tainted.
Nothing that happened in the game tainted it, and caring enough about it to make such a dumb point as that suggests, to me at least, that he most certainly had preventing the record in his head during the game.
The first time I heard about this play, I laughed for about five minutes straight! It's hilarious! If Miami didn't want to give up the passing record, they didn't have to. The play happened on 2nd down and 7. Instead of scoring a meaningless TD when the Gator D lay down, they should have just stopped at the 1, and kept standing there until either the clock ran out or the Gators got tired of lying there and got up, at which point the Canes should have run around as long as possible and if there was any time left after the play, taken a knee on the next play to finish things off. Instead, they opted to play along with the Gators by scoring the TD and cried about it after the game.
That would require knowledge and understanding of Florida's intent. Let's see, I'm a QB with the ball and I see an open lane to the goal line. Would I stop and say, "Hey, something is up here, I wonder what is going on?" Or would I high-tail it to the goal line. I'm thinking the latter.
When they call gator during the Shout dance scene in Animal House! Thank you!
Man what a channel
I’m glad to see the shenanigans stopped with Steve Spurrier. /sarcasm
If you want to understand this older school football concept; just look at the Joe 'Turkey' Jones Hit on Terry Bradshaw from 1976. My father has never forgiven Cleveland to this day. He was 29 years old when it happened and is 76 right now. These dirty plays can affect a classic fan for life.
browns were thugs then and are thugs now
Bradshaw was fighting to stay up, he got tackled. Absolutely nothing wrong with that tackle at all.
@BeskarSnake The play was over. Regardless if the play was still active or not, the intent to injure is the main focal point. Even if Bradshaw fought the tackle 'on a live play' he was still deliberately pile driven into the ground. Turkey took the time to go about 10 yards behind the play, lift up Bradshaw, and deliberately try and hurt him. The play is described as one of the most violent plays in NFL history, by experts. Cleveland was up against the Back to Back champs, in a Rivaly game, and used this as a way to send a message. It was as unnecessary as possible. Bradshaw was paralyzed for a while and could have died. The Steel Curtain was so mad, they put mostly zeros on the board the rest of the year. This is not much of an excusable play. I don't care how much you hate the Steelers, that is a terrible argument.
@@f1videowatcher939 I don't believe a whistle was blown but I could be wrong about that. The sack was pretty quick. Either way we just need to remove QBs pads because you can't tackle them.
@@BeskarSnake It's not a tackle no matter how you look at it. Whether you go by the football definition as defined in the rulebook or the google definition, nowhere does it describe lifting somebody off of the ground and slamming them to the ground. Whether there was a whistle or not, it's a clear and deliberate intent to injure.
Interesting video. This game occurred before I moved to Florida in 1995, in fact in 1972 I was only 14 and only knew about the Hurricane’s and not the Gator’s back then. Today I’m a Gator Fan because I live in Central FL, but still like Miami. I can understand the Gators wanting for John Reeves to break Jim Plunkett’s NCAA career passing yardage record, but they didn’t have to make it so obvious allowing Miami to score, I have to agree it was poor sportsmanship. At least Miami had the last laugh/payback winning a National Championship before the Gators.
I mean Florida won 2 national championships since Miamis last win. Did Miami really get the last laugh?
Yeah I don’t think Miami got the last laugh
Miami doesn't have the last laugh at the moment,but will retrieve it again. However, winning a national championship before Florida did is *priceless*!!! (And this from someone who's been a Seminole fan longer than Saint Bobby has)...
This has a nice Jon Bois feel to it. Well done!
Genius !! Ppl with the smallest dx complain still years later
There were a couple games when Carson Beck had a chance to beat a couple records, but Kirby usually pulled him out in the fourth quarter to give other QB’s playing time.
The only flag football game I ever played in, the defense did this play on the last snap. We didn’t even get the first down.
Huh??? How
Man, your flag football team really sucks! LOL!
Came here to watch a football play. Leaving to go play GRAN TURISMO 😂
Great video!
Great work
Excellent video and great content, my man! This was a thoroughly pleasant surprise to find while randomly watching videos on youtube. Great job!
Fantastic narration
With a quick thinking QB stopping at the 1 and walking across the field, killing time & seeing how far the Gators would take it…unlike this, I’m thinking that would’ve made this a more memorable/solid piece of American football history.
I'd have like to see him take a tackle by falling over a lying down player.
That requires a lot of thinking, analyzing, and decision making in a guy that sees an open lane to the goal line. They had no idea what the gators were doing at that moment.
@@tommaxwell429 shocking actions can & often do cause people to pause
Nice job!
Didn’t affect the outcome of the game. I think it’s great they’d go the distance for a player. GB did the same thing in a Super Bowl. Trying to get the ball to score again. Oooo, such a horrible thing.
Exactly! If time is running down and you feel confident the opposition will probably score at some point for a less than 7 point go ahead, why not? Let them score because you know you need the all the time you can get to win the game. Not quite the case here, but a legitimate tactic.
The UF players jumping into the dolphin pool after the game is worse than the flop. ;)😅 I love both moves! Go Gators!
Great story, I had not heard of this until now.
Florida’s defense should have jumped offside to get Miami closer to the end zone before letting them in the end zone on the next play
Why? They wanted to preserve the clock for their QB. What would an offside play get them?
"Whatever BS Auburn has planned for that week" 🤣 Well said
That talk show host guy was a 🐈 oh it’s a show of disrespect yeah it was it’s football if u don’t wanna be disrespected play better if ur bad enough to let the other team be able to do that it’s ur own fault
Fast forward to the 5 minute mark to see the flop and try to ignore the god-awful background music
Howard Schnellenberger was a curse for Oklahoma, him and 2 has been Oklahoma alumni players that weren’t a factor in the teams past and they haven’t been anywhere close since then
Viewers. You can skip to 5:11.
veeeeeery iconic gators moment 😂🐊
When Florida hired Doug Dickey away from Tennessee (around 1969 I think) it was a bit of a scandal. SEC schools didn't poach another SEC school's head coach.
Every time I watch the movie, "The Last Boyscout" opening scene: Billy Coles gets a call from a criminal he is involved with, takes some illegal drugs then brings a gun onto the field and murders a few guys so he can score -- we all know that character, Billy Coles, went to Miami.
Bros just trying to get their guy his shot at a record. Nothing to lose as far as the game went. Top tier bromanship. Approved.
A Gainesville native, born 10/21/71, I remember this game.😊.
Go Gators
I came outta this only admiring this guy’s outstanding writing of this piece. ✌️
Crazy I didn't know anything about this play, but Burgess Owens is a state representative now I believe.
I don't understand why miami were so unhappy about this. Its sad, they had already lost the game and this was about the QB braking a record at his college.
I met Reaves and his son. Dude was awesome.
As a Tennessee fan it doesn’t surprise me that Doug Dickey is partially responsible for the flop. He flopped from Tennessee to Florida to take the same position as head coach.
Who knew I needed old sportsball events narrated by Joe Swanson's brother.
I had never heard of this before.
dis mf balled out with the gran turismo music
How silly of me to think wins are more important than breaking records.
One thing I learned over the years is you can't trust ANY college football team in Florida to do what's right in the end.
I am so glad I learned about this play
if you dotlike someone running up the score than your defense ahould stop them dont complain because you losing.
You sound so much like DrShaym/PossumReviews that it's scary.
The Miami coach was Fran Curci - pronounced with a hard "k".
What a great story. Go Gators '82 alum
I don't understand the big deal. They let the guy score. So what?
I was at this game and to this day I despise the Gators.
I was also at the game. At the time (as a 7th grader) I thought getting a record was an admirable goal. Later, I changed my mind. Plunkett set the record without trickery, but Reaves needed one more unearned chance. Coach's error, giving in to the third request of his team.
It occurred to me that Hornibrook could have turned the tables on them by just running around without scoring to run time off the clock.
If he knew their intent! Hind sight is 20/20, an open lane to the goal line, not so much!
It’s time to drain the swamp. I like the State of Miami but nowadays they’re average.
Salute to Harvin Clark, that’s a real teammate and bro.
Are you the guy who voices pointless hub and alternate history hub?
Bit of Gran Turismo music
Reaves should have just overthrown every pass out of bounds just to show all in the stadium this is not the way i want to get a record.
your voice sounds nearly identical to Cody from "Knowledge Husk"
Ingenious!!!!!
If Miami wanted to run out the clock, the QB could have just held the ball and stood there while the Gators flopped. Of course, he was probably just confused and saw the end zone wide open, so of course he's going to run it in.
...which is why what Florida did was so smart. Flopping just to break a record in a game you already won may be seen by SOME as petty or unsportsmanlike, not not as many as would see it as petty to give up trying at all just to prevent the record in a game you already lost. Thus, if you make it flatly obvious you're not trying to stop them scoring, you basically force their hand and make them score to avoid it.
I have NO fave college team. Howeer, I would love to know the narrators fave team.
In another video he mentions that his favorite team is Florida.
Florida-Miami should play every season. It's a shame they don't.
Can't win! Run up the score and you're slammed. Give up points intentionally, you're slammed. I guess every team needs to develop a half-assed offense for just these circumstances. I think it is awesome!
I watched this like 5 times, read the wikipedia page, a dozen reddit posts and three sports journal articles and I still don't understand what was so appalling about that play. Isn't it just intelligent to do that to get the ball back? 🤨 And by scoring Miami consented to that amicably? The game was already done, why risk anyone getting injured... To me it seems quite sportsmanlike to let someone get the *chance* to go distance in a way that everybody can see. They even tried to stop the receiver in that record breaking play.
The Auburn comment was spot on.
Why did I just listen to Patrick Warburton talk to me about football?
Gators also own the most embarrassing play. Gators Blocking!
Miami running the wishbone.
Sports has almost nothing to do with competition or gamesmanship. It's just a means for spectators to moralize about sociological themes. Matters of integrity, honor and courage that we almost entirely lack in real life because our society is built on hypocrisy and corruption. None of those players should have felt that kind of shame about the game, especially in that era before it was such a financial opportunity. To break your clavicle trying to hurt the other team in frustration for a flop seems like it would be a lesson about screwed up priorities. And almost all of this is coming from the media, coaches and parents. But mostly the media who feeds us all with their narrative horseshit because they resent not being real journalists.
They could've at least made it semi-realistic. Most football plays are a missed tackle or two away from being TDs.
College football butthurt is utterly incomprehensible.