I need help with baptism and I am curious to know your thoughts as I too struggle with belief in the doctrine of the trinity. I have read this in the Greek lexicon for the word "baptism". I am all but convinced Jesus was telling us to remain submerged in Him as the meaning and not to be dunked in and out or sprinkled with water as the meaning. Here is the lexicon's words: The clearest example that showsthe meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physicianNicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making picklesand is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that inorder to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped'(bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in thevinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in asolution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act ofbaptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Water Baptism is a ritual, it was part of the Proselyte becoming a member of Israel. Jesus Christ said Fire and Spirit not water. All the ritual were nailed to the cross. This guy is Luke warm un his teachings. 50% Truth and 50% opinions is 100% the doctrine of the devil.
Amen Pastor. That is what people fail to do when they read the Bible. They don't bother praying for God's truth to be revealed, they just read and add their own understanding. Lean not on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Have you not read? God's son: Matthew 2:15 and was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Matthew 3:17 and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him. John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 2 Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Simply put the Trinity is not biblical. It was a pagan belief introduced into Christendom as a way to convert pagans, unfortunately by doing so they and those that believe the Trinity became pagan themselves. Note what some experts say about the Trinity: 1) "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, ed. Mircea Eliade, Macmillan Publishing Company, 1987, Vol. 15, p. 54). 2) "The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306). 3) "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person" (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p. 49). 4) "The Old Testament clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person…God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly…The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 13, pp. 574, 575). 5) "On the whole the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power" (W.E. Addis and Thomas Arnold, A Catholic Dictionary, 1960, p. 810). 6) "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362...and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381" (A Catholic Dictionary, p. 812). 7) "Karl Rahner [leading Roman Catholic spokesman] points out with so much emphasis that the Son in the New Testament is never described as ‘ho theos’ [the one God]" (A.T. Hanson, Grace and Truth, p. 66). 8) "The New Testament writers...give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three equal divine persons.... Nowhere do we find any Trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead" (Fortman, The Triune God, pp. xv, xvi, 16). 9) "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament" (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Vol. 11, p. 928). 10) "Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary a deviation from this teaching" (The Encyclopedia Americana, p. 1956, p. 2941). 11) "Apparently Paul did not call Jesus God" (Sydney Cave, D.D., Doctrine of the Person of Christ, p. 48). 12) "Paul habitually differentiates Christ from God" (C.J. Cadoux, A Pilgrim’s Further Progress, pp. 40, 42). 13) "Paul never equates Jesus with God" (W.R. Matthews, The Problem of Christ in the 20th Century, Maurice Lectures, 1949, p. 22). 14) "Paul never gives to Christ the name or description of ‘God’" (Dictionary of the Apostolic Church, Vol. 1, p. 194). 15) "When the New Testament writers speak of Jesus Christ, they do not speak of Him nor do they think of Him as God" (J.M. Creed, The Divinity of Jesus Christ, pp. 122-123). 16) "[Matt. 28:19] proves only that there are the three subjects named,...but it does not prove, by itself, that all the three belong necessarily to the divine nature, and possess equal divine honor…This text, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity" (McClintock and Strong, Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature, 1987, Vol. X, p. 552). 17) "The Old Testament tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.... There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead.... Even to see in the Old Testament suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the Trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers" (Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God, Baker Book House, 1972, pp. xv, 8, 9). 18) "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a Trinity is to be found there is utterly without foundation." (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co, 1900). 19) "There is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed but not a new theology…And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God" (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co., 1900, p. 4). 20) "The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus...certainly never believed himself to be God" ((Bulletin of the John Rylands Library, 1967-68, Vol. 50, p. 251). After wrongly assimilating the Trinity the Churches began incorporating other false pagan beliefs, gods and symbols such as the Cross, Easter, Christmas, Hell, Purgatory and the systematic removal of God’s name Jehovah which once appeared over 7000+ times, and now has been completely removed or only retained in a few places by a very few translations. Jesus warned about this in his parable of the Wheat and the Weeds in Matthew 13:24 to 30 and Matthew 13:37 to 43. The Apostles also warned the congregations about false teachings and teachers that would soon arrive after them in Acts 20:29 & 30 which reads “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves” - New King James Version. See also 1 Timothy 4:1 to 3, 2 Timothy 4:3 & 4, 2Peter 2:1 to 3, 2Peter 2:12 & 13. It is extremely important for true Christians to reject such teachings and find the truth in all things as set out in Gods word.
Jesus is the firstborn of all things created or the first of the Fathers works. Jesus's spirit would have been formed by the Father before all things. The fullness was pleased to dwell in Him. - Gifted not formed -From the will of another. In that unity the Son is the radiance of Gods glory and the exact representation of Gods being. Therefore this question, "Is Jesus God?" Is answered thus: He never dies. Yes, He is ALL that the Father is. No, He has always been the Son. At the appointed time a body was prepared for Jesus. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, HE said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; The Son who was, (His Spirit), was in the tent of that body and the Father was still living in Him. They are one. Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and WE will come to them and make our home with them. One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.
Psalm 95:7-11 {God makes the statement} For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work. Forty years long was I grieved with this generation and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest. Hebrews 3:7-11 {Holy Spirit makes the statement} Wherefore as the Holy Ghost saith, Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers temped me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, they do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, they shall not enter into my rest. Luke 1:68-70 {Lord God spoke thru prophets} II Timothy 3:16 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, and hath raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; as he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, 2 Peter 1:21 {Holy Spirit spoke thru prophets } For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Isaiah 6:8, 9 (God said it) Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Acts 28:25 (Holy Spirit said it) ....Well spake the Holy Ghost by Isaiah the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: So who gave us all scripture The Father or the Holy Spirit or GOD? John 16:13,14 (The Father sent the comforter) John 14:16-27 But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever John 15:26 (Jesus sent the comforter) But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: So who sent the Comforter, GOD?
True . This teaching is taught from churches from history . If you read the Bible without already being taught the trinity from man you will never see it. Praise to God the father Jahuwah aka Jehovah. Jesus aka Jahusha is the Son.
Isaiah 42:848:11-12 {God will never share his glory} I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, and I will not give my glory unto another. I am he; I am the first, I also am the Last. Revelation 1: 8 (He is the first and the last the beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. Philippians 2:5-7 {of what did he empty himself} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation (emptied), and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: {The Greek reads as follows} Who in form of God subsisting not rapinesteemed it to be equal with god; John 14:28 {Jesus in human form occupies a lower position then the Father} "You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" Hebrews 2:9 {Jesus Humbled himself while walking among us} But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone Galatians 4:4 {Jesus set aside his divine nature to be born as a human} But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, John 5:30 “I can do nothing on my own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.” Colossians 2:9 {Yet he was still GOD} For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, John 17:5 {God shares his glory} {of his right to exercise his deity} And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position as GOD} Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;… And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 {the Holy Spirit thru John states Jesus is the First and the Last?} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit states is Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word . Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. …..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death? th-cam.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/w-d-xo.html Matthew 26:53 (Jesus was obedient to what was prophesied) Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”… Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” th-cam.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/w-d-xo.html And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: In His Service,
On your opening comments even though the word Trinity is not found the Trinity can be seen throughout the scriptures... The word rapture doesn't appear either but most of us believe in a pretrib rapture and also the word bible is not even found and many others but it doesn't mean that they are not correct
The word trinity in not used in the bible but the concept is. The words "omniscience" which means "all-knowing," "omnipotence" which means "all-powerful," and "omnipresence" which means "present everywhere," are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. Do you need more? Where is the word bible found in the scriptures? The bible does not use the word bible so why should we use it The bible does not use the word Omnipresence so why should we use it The bible does not use the word Omniscience so why should we use it The bible does not use the word Omnipotence so why should we use it The bible does not use the word divine The bible does not use the word divinity The bible does not use the word Ascension The bible does not use the word Atonement The bible does not use the word Monotheism The bible does not use the word Divinity The bible does not use the word Hermeneutics The bible does not use the word Exegesis The bible does not use the word Rapture The bible does not use the word Incarnation The bible does not use the word Atheism The bible does not use the word Immutability
being raised in my mom childhood church of god in christ we never heard of the trinity neither when i wss baptist never heard of the trinity now i attend a nondenominational church you will not hear about the trinity
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (I.e., the Son, per John 1:1-15), and the Holy Ghost: and these three ARE ONE” (1 John 5:7)
Twist not the scriptures lest you be like Satan. It doesn't say Son, etc. The word is referring to God speaking, His word is His witness, God is Spirit and His spirit is holy. Those three aspects, realities point to ONE GOD.
Hargis Pennington my friend, there is indeed one God, but He exists as three eternal persons. I did not twist scripture, but rather used scripture to interpret scripture, which is the Biblically correct method. John 1:1-15 clearly shows that “the Word” refers to Jesus. Read it carefully with an open, prayerful mind.
@@dustinarmstrong7929 sorry that is wrong. Co equal but yet all power is given unto Jesus, and His name is above all other names, and Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord over all. You have to break the most important rule in biblical interpretation to get a trinity, the rule is don't read into the scripture. Those that go to heaven will only see Jesus, there is only one thrown, when it speaks of Jesus being at the right hand, it is speaking of the position of power, not place. Please learn proper biblical interpretation.
This is the heresy of modalism, that God expresses Himself in different persons at different times, rather than being Three Persons. At Jesus’ baptism, all three Persons of the Trinity were present at once.
I’ve done multiple videos showing hat is not what is communicated at His baptism. And it’s generally acknowledged by non-partisan scholarship that so called modalism was the belief of the early Church.
As long as you believe in THE FATHER (The one and only God) and that his SON, The Messiah JESUS CHRIST, you’re a christian by the bible’s definition. Trinity is man made tradition. Christian’s believe the Son of God, Jesus died for our sins and the Holy spirit teaches us right from wrong. Period. We don’t need the trinity to understand that simple concept
@@corbelan4 “I and the Father are One.” “Before Abraham was, I Am.” I’m used to having to prove these things to Muslims and JW’s. Now I have to demonstrate them to professing Christians?! The end is truly nigh.
Exodus 3:13-14 (I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:5810:30-36 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the son of God? Jesus states " the Father and I are one" He's talking about being one in nature not one in will, we know this because the Jews understood it to be one in nature "thou being a man, makest thyself God", notice they didn't say "a God but just God", John 5:18 states “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken{loosed} the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God” …..Jesus understood the Jews were interpreting it this way. For he states John 8:58 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM” ….Jesus knew this was something every Jew had burned in his mind from infancy Exodus 3:14 “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM". So to hear someone else use it and apply to himself BLASPHEMY ! Absolutely. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the godhead bodily. Philippians 2:6 Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God Why? He was God. When Jesus Christ was asked what the first and greatest commandment of the law was, He stated in Mark 12:29 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord God states: Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne O God, is for ever and ever: John 8:58, 6:18. Jesus was persecuted and crucified for making himself equal with the “only existing God ", since the Jews only accepted one living God. He was not implying he was a lesser god or a second god, but that he had the same nature or was coexistent with him as an equal. The Jews understood this very clearly. In Isaiah 40:3 "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God." …..So here someone will cry in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of yehôvâh, make straight in the desert a hightway for our God. Mark 1:3 "The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight." …..But here the Holy Spirit speaks of Jesus. So in Isaiah the Holy Spirit said Yahweh and in Mark he said Jesus. Is the picture getting clearer? John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus. Isaiah said the way will be prepared for the LORD or in Hebrew Yahweh. th-cam.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/w-d-xo.html In His service,
John 1:185:37 {Jesus states} No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Genesis 17:1, 3 {So who appeared and spoke?} And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, etc. Exodus 3:4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, here am I. John 3:12, 13 {how can Jesus be talking to Nicodemus and be in heaven?} If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Brother Waldron, many apostolics now are saying this isn't a salvation issue, which I would say that idea came straight from Satan. Would you agree with them?
Consubstantiality explained And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father, by whom all things were made.- The Nicene Creed One aspect of the trinity that was fought for hard in the early church is the concept of consubstantiality of the three Persons of the godhead. This word “consubstantiality” may seem like a $3 theological term that has no bearing on average people. However, when you break the word down it is actually very important in defending the deity of all three Persons and their unity. This word is important in Trinitarian theology for explaining the unity of the three Persons of the Godhead. “Co” means together, all three Persons share this characteristic, ex. Co-equality, all three Persons are equal with each other. “Substantial” means the divine substance. When you put these terms together, you find out that the three Persons share in the one divine substance. All three Persons share in the one essence of the godhead. A similar term to describe this is homoousion; meaning that the three Persons of the Godhead share one (homo) divine ousia [nature]. Where is consubstantiality in the Bible? According to John 5:18, Jesus claimed to be co-equal with the Father. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, which means that Jesus claimed to share in the divine substance of the Father, yet personally distinct from him. This is consubstantiality. In John 10:30 Jesus claimed to be one with the Father. The Greek word for one means one in composite unity. Basically, Jesus claimed to share in the nature of his Father and to be co-equal with him. Jesus is one with the Father in that they both share in the one divine nature; ie they are consubstantial with each other. Why is this important? Because, if the three Persons do not share in the same substance/essence, then one of two things must be correct; either there are three essences, or some person of the Godhead must be subordinate to another person in the godhead. If God is three substances or essences, then by definition that is tritheism. If certain Persons of the Godhead are subordinate to other Persons in the Godhead, then some members of the Godhead aren’t fully God. We would have the Son and/or the Spirit not sharing in the same divine essance as the Father. They would not be co-equal; rather certain members of the Godhead would be subordinate to each other. But the three Persons are consubstantial with each other and share in their nature. God is one divine nature, shared by three divine Persons. In summary, it is very important to affirm that the three Persons of the trinity are consubstantial. This is how we affirm the deity of each of the Persons of the Godhead; because they all share in the same, singular, divine nature.
@A Young Christian Theologian's TH-cam If so, then why does 1 Peter 1:20 say that Jesus was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." If he was "foreknown" by God at one point then that means he didn't exist at that time. Furthermore, if the holy spirit is a person, then why does "he" apparently not know the hour (Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32)?
N B He obviously did know the day and hour. He wasn’t ignorant. He was telling them what was going to happen. He was saying it wasn’t given for His children to know. We shall be sons of God. We are the son spoken of that doesn’t know the day and hour.
If the word isn't there, don't put it there. If anyone adds to or takes away from this Book then the plaques mentioned be upon them. Let us not forget where the doctrine of the Trinity came from also. Paganism, pagan philosophers that infiltrated the church, and look where that church in Rome has went.
Many learned and reasonable men saw Scriptural truth like Sir Isaac Newton, Joseph Priestly some of the greatest scientists in all history would be lead to refute to the trinity; Not being deceived.
Honestly struggling with this...especially the fact that the Father is spirit and the Holy Spirit is spirit. At minimum It seems the words "Trinity" and "3 persons" should not be use since that would seem like adding to the Holy text.
John 3:16 means Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God that was his flesh body Jesus Christ is God in the flesh at the same time FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST AND THESE THREE ARE ONE - IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD - AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US yes that sounds very straightforward simple to understand you can act arrogant all you want but I believe what the Bible says and I have noticed you own a LOT of bibles how much did those coast you ? Really ?
Matthew 16:13-19 . This passage refutes all forms of Restorationism. This is the idea that the Christian church fell into apostasy . Groups that teach this include Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Apostolic Pentecostals. These groups teach that the mainstream, historic Christian church fell into darkness and they are restoring the truth. I was raised a Oneness Pentecostal and I thought this. When I was Oneness , I thought that after the apostles died, Christianity fell into apostasy and paganism because of the Trinity and God restored the Christian faith through the people who started the Oneness movement through the revelation that Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I thought we were keeping Christianity from being lost because all other churches were wrong and idolatrous. I thought that we worshipped a different god than other Christians. I believed the Roman Catholic Church stole the gospel from everyone because they baptized using “titles”and was teaching polytheism. I thought that when other churches said they believed in one God, that they were lying to me . I thought we should not to study church history, because the church was apostate. I believed we were pushing the reset button on the Christian faith. I may have misunderstood our doctrine but that’s what I believed . Most of us did not study historic Christian theology such as the creeds because it came from a pagan, false church. I believed that God had re-opened the true doctrine of the Bible to us, because I thought all other churches were being deceived by it. I thought that Satan twisted the Bible to make people believe in the Trinity. I was afraid when I was questioning the Oneness doctrine that it was Satan using the Bible to test my faith. But this passage teaches that the church will endure. Yes, the church needed reform but it never completely falls away.This is why church history matters. Church history is NOT an infallible rule but it’s important. The church needed and continues to need reformation, not a complete redrawing of its fabric. While scripture is the singular, inerrant , divine word of God, it should be understood in context of the Christian witness throughout the generations. This is why church tradition has a role to play in theology.)
Where did you get Apostolic Pentecostals in that group? We believe there has always been a Church. Now the Christian Church, Church of Christ, and Disciples of Christ are restorationists.
You used “I” 17 times. Which Church tradition? The Inquisition? Luthers condoning of terrible measures in the peasant rebellion? Calvin killing people? Quakers being put to death by puritans? Which tradition exactly?
Definitely! That’s the reason it’s found organically arrived at all around the world and in all ages. Has anyone every arrived at the trinity the same way?
Mathew 28:19 are Instructions of Jesus himself " Baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son abd of the Holy Spirit. " Look up Father, Son, Spirit in the Greek to see if it is Singular or plural.
The word NAME if notice is singular, not plural. That name is Jesus. Read Acts and notice every time they speak of baptism, they baptize in the name of Jesus.
In Acts 7:32 there is "the God of Abraham, and the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob." Obviously there isnt 3 separate God's for Abraham Issac and Jacob but is referring to a singular God which each share. Also in Col. 2:2 "to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ." Clearly there are not 3 separate mysteries, but speaking of a singular mystery. These examples are the same as Matt. 28:19, referring to the SINGULAR NAME! which is Jesus
The word God head is in the Bible Acts.17 [29] Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Rom.1 [20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power andGodhead; so that they are without excuse: Col.2 [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Since that term, or terms remotely close to it, are not found in Scripture, no. Your looking at the Bible thru a backdated lense, rather than what does Scripture say.
Who is ? The First and the Last? The Alpha and the Omega? The beginning and the end? The Creator of all, The only savoir of mankind, The Who gives us eternal life, The one who has always existed, The one who Is Omnipresence, The one who Is Omniscience, The one who Is Omnipotence, The one who Raised Jesus from the dead, The one who sent the comforter The one who Dwells in all believers, The one who is our Shepherd, The one who will Speaks thru us, The one who can forgive sins, The only one who can be prayed to? The only one who can be worshiped? The only one who is sinless? The one who was pierced for us The one who died for us? If you respond The Father I will prove it is the Son If you respond the Son I will prove it is the Father How can this be? th-cam.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/w-d-xo.html In His service,
I CANT BELIEVE IN TRINITY . MAYBE JESUS HAS THE BALL NOW. MAT 28 SAYS ALL AUTHORITY OR POWER WAS GIV3N TO HIM. BUT iF HE HAD IT FROM ETERNITY..IT WOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO HIM .?? Confusing.
So has good scriptural history, Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} But unto the Son he {God } saith, Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is, forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus in (Hebrews) and to The Father in (Psalm 45:6). Psalm 45:6 Your throne, O God, will last, forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. Deuteronomy 6:13-14 {Holy Spirit said worship only God.} "You shall fear only the LORD your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.”You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, Luke 4:8 {Jesus reminds satan only God is to be worshiped} And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve. Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus} And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father decrees all will worship him) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52 And when they saw him, they worshiped him: And they worshiped him. John 20:28, 29 {The Holy Spirit thru Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. …..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Romans 9:5 {The Holy Spirit thru Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: John 1:1, 2,3,14 { The Holy Spirit thru John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word . Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, John 1:9-10 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. Acts 20:28 {The Holy Spirit thru Luke calls Jesus God} Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 2 Peter 1:1 {The Holy Spirit thru Peter calls Jesus God} Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours: Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit thru the prophets calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Matthew 1:23 (The Holy Spirit thru Matthew defines the name Immanuel, Jesus is GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16 (Jesus claims to be GOD) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: So who is HE? th-cam.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/w-d-xo.html In His service,
My position on this is to 'err on the side of scripture along with the pre-nicene writers or 'fathers'. Obviously one could go either way as 'trinity' is not in the Bible but three-in-one is --- along with a plurality of the Godhead in the OT. So I say to God, forgive me if I am wrong and please show me the truth when I see you. For now I remain trinitarian. Looks like the safest bet to me.
It is not saying three persons are one. And the OT does not speak of a plurality of God. Example Elohim is Singular in person, and plural in His powers or attributes. God used the word Elohim when He told Moses I will make you as god to pharaoh. Moses is not three persons. You have to understand the meaning of Hebrew language and Greek. If God is a trinity He would plainly say so in His word. He is not a God of confusion or misleading one into deception. Over 3k times it says He is God alone, and there is no other.
Let us make man in OUR image.@@hargisP2 The Lord on the earth at the time called down fire from the Lord in heaven upon Sodom. No man has seen God at any time yet the Lord spoke with Abraham face to face as the Lord and two companions ate the food Abraham provided. Who did Jacob wrestle with? Then of course there are the passages in the NT. I'm sure you know them. All this for me is enough to not take on a binitarian or modalist doctrine.
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been he is eternal} The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 48:12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Rev 1:8; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father} Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD. Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father} The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Matthew 19:26 {The Omnipotence of The Father} But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Revelation 1: 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father} For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. ============================================================ John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal} But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Revelation 1:11, 22:16 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible} For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. Matthew 18:20; 28:19-20; John 3:13 {The Omnipresence of the Son} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Ephesians 4:10 He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things John 21:17; 2:24-25; 18:4 {The omniscience of the Son} He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep. Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. John 2:24-25 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person. John 16:30 Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God." Matthew 28:18; John 6: 36; 14:11; 15:24 {The Omnipotence of The Son} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 22:13, 16 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son} Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. ============================================================ Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been he is eternal and Omnipresent } How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Psalm 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 {The Omniscience of the Spirit} But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. “Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.” 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 {The Omnipotence of The Spirit } For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, th-cam.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/w-d-xo.html And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: In His service,
Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead} Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead} Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. Matthew 26:61 and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’” Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead} But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead} Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. ==================================================== Psalms 33:6 {God states the word created all} By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear Hebrews 1:10 {The Father admits the Son created all} And, Thou, Lord, {kurios} in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit admits the Word created all} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Colossians 1:16-17 {Jesus created all things} John 1:3 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Who is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him. And for him: And he is before all things. And by him all things consist. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made Job 26:13 33:4 {Holy Spirit creates} By his Spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent. The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Genesis 1:2 And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Isaiah 42:5 43:11; 44:22 {God created all things} Psalm 104:5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: For this is what the LORD says- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited- he says: “I am the LORD, and there is no other. Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heaven alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; Who laid the foundations of the earth, Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God ( 'ĕlôhîym (el-o-heem') Plural ) created the heaven and the earth. Here The Father is portrayed as the creative source of all things. Genesis 1:2 “.. and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” Here, in the second verse of Genesis, the Spirit of God appears as active in the creation process . Genesis 1:3 “Then God said, “Let there be light; and there was light.” The Son, the eternal Word of God, speaks the first of Gods works into existence. John 5:37 {Jesus states we have never heard his voice} And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Jeremiah 32:17 Ah Lord God! Behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee. Psalm 102:25, "Of old Thou didst found the earth; and the heavens are the work of Thy hands." th-cam.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/w-d-xo.html And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: In His Service,
Irrelevant argument really. What does Scripture say? Colossians 2:9, John 14, I would say Penteocstals do. Jesus is the fulness of the Godhead, not 1/3. He’s the Father.
I need help with baptism and I am curious to know your thoughts as I too struggle with belief in the doctrine of the trinity. I have read this in the Greek lexicon for the word "baptism". I am all but convinced Jesus was telling us to remain submerged in Him as the meaning and not to be dunked in and out or sprinkled with water as the meaning. Here is the lexicon's words:
The clearest example that showsthe meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physicianNicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making picklesand is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that inorder to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped'(bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in thevinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in asolution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act ofbaptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.
Baptism of water, temporary, Spirt permanent perhaps?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Water Baptism is a ritual, it was part of the Proselyte becoming a member of Israel. Jesus Christ said Fire and Spirit not water. All the ritual were nailed to the cross. This guy is Luke warm un his teachings. 50% Truth and 50% opinions is 100% the doctrine of the devil.
Of all people I can't believe you deny the trinity
John 8:24
“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”
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Amen Pastor. That is what people fail to do when they read the Bible. They don't bother praying for God's truth to be revealed, they just read and add their own understanding. Lean not on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Have you not read?
God's son:
Matthew 2:15
and was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which
was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I
called my son.
Matthew 3:17
and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the
Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,
and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold
a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I
am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mark 8:38
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this
adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be
ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Luke 10:22
All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the
Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to
whom the Son will reveal him.
John 8:28
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then
shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my
Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
John 14:13
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Acts 13:33
God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath
raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou
art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
Romans 1:9
For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his
Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this
day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he
shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 5:5
So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he
that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
2 Peter 1:17
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came
such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased.
Simply put the Trinity is not biblical. It was a pagan belief introduced into Christendom as a way to convert pagans, unfortunately by doing so they and those that believe the Trinity became pagan themselves.
Note what some experts say about the Trinity:
1) "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, ed. Mircea Eliade, Macmillan Publishing Company, 1987, Vol. 15, p. 54).
2) "The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306).
3) "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person" (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p. 49).
4) "The Old Testament clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person…God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly…The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 13, pp. 574, 575).
5) "On the whole the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power" (W.E. Addis and Thomas Arnold, A Catholic Dictionary, 1960, p. 810).
6) "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362...and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381" (A Catholic Dictionary, p. 812).
7) "Karl Rahner [leading Roman Catholic spokesman] points out with so much emphasis that the Son in the New Testament is never described as ‘ho theos’ [the one God]" (A.T. Hanson, Grace and Truth, p. 66).
8) "The New Testament writers...give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three equal divine persons.... Nowhere do we find any Trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead" (Fortman, The Triune God, pp. xv, xvi, 16).
9) "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament" (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Vol. 11, p. 928).
10) "Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary a deviation from this teaching" (The Encyclopedia Americana, p. 1956, p. 2941).
11) "Apparently Paul did not call Jesus God" (Sydney Cave, D.D., Doctrine of the Person of Christ, p. 48).
12) "Paul habitually differentiates Christ from God" (C.J. Cadoux, A Pilgrim’s Further Progress, pp. 40, 42).
13) "Paul never equates Jesus with God" (W.R. Matthews, The Problem of Christ in the 20th Century, Maurice Lectures, 1949, p. 22).
14) "Paul never gives to Christ the name or description of ‘God’" (Dictionary of the Apostolic Church, Vol. 1, p. 194).
15) "When the New Testament writers speak of Jesus Christ, they do not speak of Him nor do they think of Him as God" (J.M. Creed, The Divinity of Jesus Christ, pp. 122-123).
16) "[Matt. 28:19] proves only that there are the three subjects named,...but it does not prove, by itself, that all the three belong necessarily to the divine nature, and possess equal divine honor…This text, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity" (McClintock and Strong, Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature, 1987, Vol. X, p. 552).
17) "The Old Testament tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.... There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead.... Even to see in the Old Testament suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the Trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers" (Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God, Baker Book House, 1972, pp. xv, 8, 9).
18) "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a Trinity is to be found there is utterly without foundation." (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co, 1900).
19) "There is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed but not a new theology…And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God" (L.L. Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, Houghton Mifflin and Co., 1900, p. 4).
20) "The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus...certainly never believed himself to be God" ((Bulletin of the John Rylands Library, 1967-68, Vol. 50, p. 251).
After wrongly assimilating the Trinity the Churches began incorporating other false pagan beliefs, gods and symbols such as the Cross, Easter, Christmas, Hell, Purgatory and the systematic removal of God’s name Jehovah which once appeared over 7000+ times, and now has been completely removed or only retained in a few places by a very few translations. Jesus warned about this in his parable of the Wheat and the Weeds in Matthew 13:24 to 30 and Matthew 13:37 to 43. The Apostles also warned the congregations about false teachings and teachers that would soon arrive after them in Acts 20:29 & 30 which reads “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves” - New King James Version. See also 1 Timothy 4:1 to 3, 2 Timothy 4:3 & 4, 2Peter 2:1 to 3, 2Peter 2:12 & 13.
It is extremely important for true Christians to reject such teachings and find the truth in all things as set out in Gods word.
The word trinity is not in Scripture.
Jesus is the firstborn of all things created or the first of the Fathers works. Jesus's spirit would have been formed by the Father before all things. The fullness was pleased to dwell in Him. - Gifted not formed -From the will of another. In that unity the Son is the radiance of Gods glory and the exact representation of Gods being.
Therefore this question, "Is Jesus God?" Is answered thus:
He never dies.
Yes, He is ALL that the Father is.
No, He has always been the Son.
At the appointed time a body was prepared for Jesus.
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, HE said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;
The Son who was, (His Spirit), was in the tent of that body and the Father was still living in Him. They are one.
Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and WE will come to them and make our home with them.
One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.
Have you made a video about the meaning of begotten?
Yes but it’s been awhile ago
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa do you know where I can find it? Or how long time ago it was uploaded?
Psalm 95:7-11 {God makes the statement}
For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand.
Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your heart, as in the
provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.
Forty years long was I grieved with this generation and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: unto whom
I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
Hebrews 3:7-11 {Holy Spirit makes the statement}
Wherefore as the Holy Ghost saith,
Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers temped me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, they do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
So I sware in my wrath, they shall not enter into my rest.
Luke 1:68-70 {Lord God spoke thru prophets} II Timothy 3:16
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, and hath raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; as he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
2 Peter 1:21 {Holy Spirit spoke thru prophets }
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Isaiah 6:8, 9 (God said it)
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I; send me.
And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
Acts 28:25 (Holy Spirit said it)
....Well spake the Holy Ghost by Isaiah the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say,
Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
So who gave us all scripture The Father or the Holy Spirit or GOD?
John 16:13,14 (The Father sent the comforter) John 14:16-27
But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.
He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever
John 15:26 (Jesus sent the comforter)
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
So who sent the Comforter, GOD?
True . This teaching is taught from churches from history . If you read the Bible without already being taught the trinity from man you will never see it. Praise to God the father Jahuwah aka Jehovah. Jesus aka Jahusha is the Son.
How can I pray for you
That I’d be able to communicate with you so you’d be saved and not believe false ideas about God.
Justin Martyr lived 100 years after the New Testament. And he didn’t believe in an orthodox trinity.
Could the Angel of the Lord in the Burning Bush be the Holy Spirit form, of the Father?
Interesting thought.
Isaiah 42:8 48:11-12 {God will never share his glory}
I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, and I will not give my glory unto another. I am he; I am the first, I also am the Last.
Revelation 1: 8 (He is the first and the last the beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
Philippians 2:5-7 {of what did he empty himself}
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation (emptied), and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man:
{The Greek reads as follows}
Who in form of God subsisting not rapinesteemed it to be equal with god;
John 14:28 {Jesus in human form occupies a lower position then the Father}
"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved
me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'"
Hebrews 2:9 {Jesus Humbled himself while walking among us}
But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone
Galatians 4:4 {Jesus set aside his divine nature to be born as a human}
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,
John 5:30
“I can do nothing on my own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.”
Colossians 2:9 {Yet he was still GOD}
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
John 17:5 {God shares his glory} {of his right to exercise his deity}
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position as GOD}
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: …
And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;…
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man,
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
>> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Revelation 1:17-18 {the Holy Spirit thru John states Jesus is the First and the Last?}
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last:
I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death
John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit states is Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word .
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
…..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death?
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Matthew 26:53 (Jesus was obedient to what was prophesied)
Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?
But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”…
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority)
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
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And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His Service,
Hebrew 1:8
Do a video on why coequality is wrong
On your opening comments even though the word Trinity is not found the Trinity can be seen throughout the scriptures... The word rapture doesn't appear either but most of us believe in a pretrib rapture and also the word bible is not even found and many others but it doesn't mean that they are not correct
The word trinity in not used in the bible but the concept is. The words "omniscience" which means "all-knowing," "omnipotence" which means "all-powerful," and "omnipresence" which means "present everywhere," are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. Do you need more? Where is the word bible found in the scriptures?
The bible does not use the word bible so why should we use it
The bible does not use the word Omnipresence so why should we use it
The bible does not use the word Omniscience so why should we use it
The bible does not use the word Omnipotence so why should we use it
The bible does not use the word divine
The bible does not use the word divinity
The bible does not use the word Ascension
The bible does not use the word Atonement
The bible does not use the word Monotheism
The bible does not use the word Divinity
The bible does not use the word Hermeneutics
The bible does not use the word Exegesis
The bible does not use the word Rapture
The bible does not use the word Incarnation
The bible does not use the word Atheism
The bible does not use the word Immutability
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being raised in my mom childhood church of god in christ we never heard of the trinity neither when i wss baptist never heard of the trinity now i attend a nondenominational church you will not hear about the trinity
Wow.
Ask them, then you will hear about the trinity.
Wow! That’s crazy
Please prayerfully read Dr. Dalcour’s thesis on oneness
I think I’ve had that for years. Irrelevant Biblically.
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (I.e., the Son, per John 1:1-15), and the Holy Ghost: and these three ARE ONE” (1 John 5:7)
Twist not the scriptures lest you be like Satan. It doesn't say Son, etc. The word is referring to God speaking, His word is His witness, God is Spirit and His spirit is holy. Those three aspects, realities point to ONE GOD.
Hargis Pennington my friend, there is indeed one God, but He exists as three eternal persons. I did not twist scripture, but rather used scripture to interpret scripture, which is the Biblically correct method. John 1:1-15 clearly shows that “the Word” refers to Jesus. Read it carefully with an open, prayerful mind.
There is a reason the word [Word] in this scripture is capitalized.
@@dustinarmstrong7929 sorry that is wrong. Co equal but yet all power is given unto Jesus, and His name is above all other names, and Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord over all. You have to break the most important rule in biblical interpretation to get a trinity, the rule is don't read into the scripture. Those that go to heaven will only see Jesus, there is only one thrown, when it speaks of Jesus being at the right hand, it is speaking of the position of power, not place. Please learn proper biblical interpretation.
The word was always been in heaven, not the eternal son
119:89
This is the heresy of modalism, that God expresses Himself in different persons at different times, rather than being Three Persons. At Jesus’ baptism, all three Persons of the Trinity were present at once.
I’ve done multiple videos showing hat is not what is communicated at His baptism. And it’s generally acknowledged by non-partisan scholarship that so called modalism was the belief of the early Church.
As long as you believe in THE FATHER (The one and only God) and that his SON, The Messiah JESUS CHRIST, you’re a christian by the bible’s definition. Trinity is man made tradition. Christian’s believe the Son of God, Jesus died for our sins and the Holy spirit teaches us right from wrong. Period. We don’t need the trinity to understand that simple concept
But you just described the doctrine of the Trinity.
@@HeavyHeartsShow No the doctrine of trinity teaches that Jesus is GOD.
@@corbelan4 “I and the Father are One.”
“Before Abraham was, I Am.”
I’m used to having to prove these things to Muslims and JW’s. Now I have to demonstrate them to professing Christians?! The end is truly nigh.
Exodus 3:13-14 (I AM THAT I AM)
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them?
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 10:30-36
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
The Jews answered him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man makest thyself God.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the son of God?
Jesus states " the Father and I are one" He's talking about being one in nature not one in will, we know this because the Jews understood it to be one in nature "thou being a man, makest thyself God", notice they didn't say "a God but just God",
John 5:18 states
“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken{loosed} the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God”
…..Jesus understood the Jews were interpreting it this way. For he states
John 8:58
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM”
….Jesus knew this was something every Jew had burned in his mind from infancy
Exodus 3:14 “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM".
So to hear someone else use it and apply to himself BLASPHEMY ! Absolutely.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the godhead bodily.
Philippians 2:6
Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
Why? He was God. When Jesus Christ was asked what the first and greatest commandment of the law was, He stated in
Mark 12:29
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord
God states:
Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne O God, is for ever and ever:
John 8:58, 6:18.
Jesus was persecuted and crucified for making himself equal with the “only existing God ", since the Jews only accepted one living God. He was not implying he was a lesser god or a second god, but that he had the same nature or was coexistent with him as an equal. The Jews understood this very clearly.
In Isaiah 40:3
"The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God."
…..So here someone will cry in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of yehôvâh, make straight in the desert a hightway for our God.
Mark 1:3
"The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
…..But here the Holy Spirit speaks of Jesus. So in Isaiah the Holy Spirit said Yahweh and in Mark he said Jesus. Is the picture getting clearer? John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus. Isaiah said the way will be prepared for the LORD or in Hebrew Yahweh.
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In His service,
I love Baker Book House!!! Great video BTW. Keep it up!
John 1:18 5:37 {Jesus states}
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Genesis 17:1, 3 {So who appeared and spoke?}
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, etc.
Exodus 3:4
And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, here am I.
John 3:12, 13 {how can Jesus be talking to Nicodemus and be in heaven?}
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Brother Waldron, many apostolics now are saying this isn't a salvation issue, which I would say that idea came straight from Satan. Would you agree with them?
John 8:24. It is.
froot-loops
Consubstantiality explained
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father, by whom all things were made.- The Nicene Creed
One aspect of the trinity that was fought for hard in the early church is the concept of consubstantiality of the three Persons of the godhead. This word “consubstantiality” may seem like a $3 theological term that has no bearing on average people. However, when you break the word down it is actually very important in defending the deity of all three Persons and their unity. This word is important in Trinitarian theology for explaining the unity of the three Persons of the Godhead. “Co” means together, all three Persons share this characteristic, ex. Co-equality, all three Persons are equal with each other. “Substantial” means the divine substance. When you put these terms together, you find out that the three Persons share in the one divine substance. All three Persons share in the one essence of the godhead. A similar term to describe this is homoousion; meaning that the three Persons of the Godhead share one (homo) divine ousia [nature].
Where is consubstantiality in the Bible? According to John 5:18, Jesus claimed to be co-equal with the Father. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, which means that Jesus claimed to share in the divine substance of the Father, yet personally distinct from him. This is consubstantiality. In John 10:30 Jesus claimed to be one with the Father. The Greek word for one means one in composite unity. Basically, Jesus claimed to share in the nature of his Father and to be co-equal with him. Jesus is one with the Father in that they both share in the one divine nature; ie they are consubstantial with each other.
Why is this important? Because, if the three Persons do not share in the same substance/essence, then one of two things must be correct; either there are three essences, or some person of the Godhead must be subordinate to another person in the godhead. If God is three substances or essences, then by definition that is tritheism. If certain Persons of the Godhead are subordinate to other Persons in the Godhead, then some members of the Godhead aren’t fully God. We
would have the Son and/or the Spirit not sharing in the
same divine essance as the Father. They would not be co-equal; rather certain members of the Godhead would be subordinate to each other. But the three Persons are consubstantial with each other and share in their nature. God is one divine nature, shared by three divine Persons.
In summary, it is very important to affirm that the three Persons of the trinity are consubstantial. This is how we affirm the deity of each of the Persons of the Godhead; because they all share in the same, singular, divine nature.
Sounds like mystery Babylon to anyone that has ears to hear
The three Persons are co equal and co eternal
@A Young Christian Theologian's TH-cam If so, then why does 1 Peter 1:20 say that Jesus was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." If he was "foreknown" by God at one point then that means he didn't exist at that time. Furthermore, if the holy spirit is a person, then why does "he" apparently not know the hour (Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32)?
David the Prince um
N B He obviously did know the day and hour. He wasn’t ignorant. He was telling them what was going to happen. He was saying it wasn’t given for His children to know. We shall be sons of God. We are the son spoken of that doesn’t know the day and hour.
If the word isn't there, don't put it there. If anyone adds to or takes away from this Book then the plaques mentioned be upon them. Let us not forget where the doctrine of the Trinity came from also. Paganism, pagan philosophers that infiltrated the church, and look where that church in Rome has went.
🎶God in Three Persons.. Blessed Trinity🎶
Amen ,brother ,preach it !!!
Many learned and reasonable men saw Scriptural truth like Sir Isaac Newton, Joseph Priestly some of the greatest scientists in all history would be lead to refute to the trinity; Not being deceived.
@@danielnorman4917 Sure ,don't forget Stephen Hawking ,he wasn't deceived either .He went even further ,denying even the existence of God
Honestly struggling with this...especially the fact that the Father is spirit and the Holy Spirit is spirit. At minimum It seems the words "Trinity" and "3 persons" should not be use since that would seem like adding to the Holy text.
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Do we have an advocate with the Father
Of course.
New Life Of Albany Ga. now, how can he be the Father if he’s the advocate I John 2:1
He is the Father And The Son In The 1 Person of Christ. Isaiah 9:6, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa no son is his own father.
New Life Of Albany Ga. so he advocates to himself
John 3:16 means Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God that was his flesh body Jesus Christ is God in the flesh at the same time FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST AND THESE THREE ARE ONE - IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD - AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US yes that sounds very straightforward simple to understand you can act arrogant all you want but I believe what the Bible says and I have noticed you own a LOT of bibles how much did those coast you ? Really ?
Pagans had tirades, gods in sets in three. NEVER one God in three Persons
So
Are you a modalist????
God bless your soul
you are doing a great job.
thank you
Thank you.
Matthew 16:13-19
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This passage refutes all forms of Restorationism. This is the idea that the Christian church fell into apostasy . Groups that teach this include Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Apostolic Pentecostals. These groups teach that the mainstream, historic Christian church fell into darkness and they are restoring the truth. I was raised a Oneness Pentecostal and I thought this. When I was Oneness , I thought that after the apostles died, Christianity fell into apostasy and paganism because of the Trinity and God restored the Christian faith through the people who started the Oneness movement through the revelation that Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I thought we were keeping Christianity from being lost because all other churches were wrong and idolatrous. I thought that we worshipped a different god than other Christians. I believed the Roman Catholic Church stole the gospel from everyone because they baptized using “titles”and was teaching polytheism. I thought that when other churches said they believed in one God, that they were lying to me . I thought we should not to study church history, because the church was apostate. I believed we were pushing the reset button on the Christian faith. I may have misunderstood our doctrine but that’s what I believed . Most of us did not study historic Christian theology such as the creeds because it came from a pagan, false church. I believed that God had re-opened the true doctrine of the Bible to us, because I thought all other churches were being deceived by it. I thought that Satan twisted the Bible to make people believe in the Trinity. I was afraid when I was questioning the Oneness doctrine that it was Satan using the Bible to test my faith. But this passage teaches that the church will endure. Yes, the church needed reform but it never completely falls away.This is why church history matters. Church history is NOT an infallible rule but it’s important. The church needed and continues to need reformation, not a complete redrawing of its fabric. While scripture is the singular, inerrant , divine word of God, it should be understood in context of the Christian witness throughout the generations. This is why church tradition has a role to play in theology.)
Where did you get Apostolic Pentecostals in that group? We believe there has always been a Church.
Now the Christian Church, Church of Christ, and Disciples of Christ are restorationists.
You used “I” 17 times.
Which Church tradition? The Inquisition? Luthers condoning of terrible measures in the peasant rebellion? Calvin killing people? Quakers being put to death by puritans? Which tradition exactly?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa my personal experience
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I thought that growing up
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa church father
The trinity is false teaching it's a pagan concept that has never been a jewish belief
Do you really think if you dropped the Bible on an island you’d get oneness
Definitely! That’s the reason it’s found organically arrived at all around the world and in all ages. Has anyone every arrived at the trinity the same way?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa yea
Mathew 28:19 are Instructions of Jesus himself " Baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son abd of the Holy Spirit. " Look up Father, Son, Spirit in the Greek to see if it is Singular or plural.
The word NAME if notice is singular, not plural. That name is Jesus. Read Acts and notice every time they speak of baptism, they baptize in the name of Jesus.
In Acts 7:32 there is "the God of Abraham, and the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob." Obviously there isnt 3 separate God's for Abraham Issac and Jacob but is referring to a singular God which each share. Also in Col. 2:2 "to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ." Clearly there are not 3 separate mysteries, but speaking of a singular mystery.
These examples are the same as Matt. 28:19, referring to the SINGULAR NAME! which is Jesus
@@RichiePGD FUCK, you dumb, WOW!
Allen Tomas your fruit shows us who you serve. Repent my man so that you don’t remain dead in your sins.
The word God head is in the Bible Acts.17
[29] Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Rom.1
[20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power andGodhead; so that they are without excuse:
Col.2
[9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Godhead is a singular term referring to God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa John 17:3 identifies this ONE God, feller.
Allen Tomas and Jesus shall sit on the throne of the one God from John 17:3!
So does God put trinitarian verses in trick us
Since that term, or terms remotely close to it, are not found in Scripture, no. Your looking at the Bible thru a backdated lense, rather than what does Scripture say.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa oh
We believe in 1 God. 1 John 5:7 "There are 3 that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these 3 are 1
Who is ?
The First and the Last?
The Alpha and the Omega?
The beginning and the end?
The Creator of all,
The only savoir of mankind,
The Who gives us eternal life,
The one who has always existed,
The one who Is Omnipresence,
The one who Is Omniscience,
The one who Is Omnipotence,
The one who Raised Jesus from the dead,
The one who sent the comforter
The one who Dwells in all believers,
The one who is our Shepherd,
The one who will Speaks thru us,
The one who can forgive sins,
The only one who can be prayed to?
The only one who can be worshiped?
The only one who is sinless?
The one who was pierced for us
The one who died for us?
If you respond The Father I will prove it is the Son
If you respond the Son I will prove it is the Father
How can this be?
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In His service,
Nice video, you can improved it tho, perhaps using scripture then the truth can come out.
I’ve got several that do.
Concentrate on Bible, fancy words are ok but as confusing as trinity itself
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What is confusing about the tri-une nature of GOD?
@@canderssonswedican7486 Exactly that.
But all doctrines develop
Faith once delivered obviously destroys that thinking.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGathe faith delivered states a God of Three Persons, Father, Word, and Holy Ghost.
@@HeavyHeartsShow Not in Scripture. It never says 3 persons. No one said that for decades after the New Testament was closed.
I CANT BELIEVE IN TRINITY . MAYBE JESUS HAS THE BALL NOW. MAT 28 SAYS ALL AUTHORITY OR POWER WAS GIV3N TO HIM. BUT iF HE HAD IT FROM ETERNITY..IT WOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO HIM .?? Confusing.
Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness.
Faith in Christ crucified , repentance.
Not water.
I would say it’s faith in the Name of Jesus. I Peter 3:21.
But church history has ruled on this
So has good scriptural history,
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God}
But unto the Son he {God } saith,
Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is, forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus in (Hebrews) and to The Father in (Psalm 45:6).
Psalm 45:6
Your throne, O God, will last,
forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Deuteronomy 6:13-14 {Holy Spirit said worship only God.}
"You shall fear only the LORD your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.”You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you,
Luke 4:8 {Jesus reminds satan only God is to be worshiped}
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve.
Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus}
And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father decrees all will worship him)
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52
And when they saw him, they worshiped him:
And they worshiped him.
John 20:28, 29 {The Holy Spirit thru Thomas calls Jesus God}
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
{ o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article.
…..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Romans 9:5 {The Holy Spirit thru Paul calls Jesus GOD}
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV
I Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Titus 2:13
Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,
Philippians 2:5-7
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man:
John 1:1, 2,3,14 { The Holy Spirit thru John calls Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word .
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos
He was in [the] beginning with God.
All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being.
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
John 1:9-10
The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.
He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
Acts 20:28 {The Holy Spirit thru Luke calls Jesus God}
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
2 Peter 1:1 {The Holy Spirit thru Peter calls Jesus God}
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit thru the prophets calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:23 (The Holy Spirit thru Matthew defines the name Immanuel, Jesus is GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16 (Jesus claims to be GOD)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM)
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them?
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
John 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
So who is HE?
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In His service,
Try this
God is the last name. Father son Holy Spirit are the first name
You may be one of the few people in human history to hypothesisize that.
My position on this is to 'err on the side of scripture along with the pre-nicene writers or 'fathers'. Obviously one could go either way as 'trinity' is not in the Bible but three-in-one is --- along with a plurality of the Godhead in the OT. So I say to God, forgive me if I am wrong and please show me the truth when I see you. For now I remain trinitarian. Looks like the safest bet to me.
It is not saying three persons are one. And the OT does not speak of a plurality of God. Example Elohim is Singular in person, and plural in His powers or attributes. God used the word Elohim when He told Moses I will make you as god to pharaoh. Moses is not three persons. You have to understand the meaning of Hebrew language and Greek. If God is a trinity He would plainly say so in His word. He is not a God of confusion or misleading one into deception. Over 3k times it says He is God alone, and there is no other.
Let us make man in OUR image.@@hargisP2 The Lord on the earth at the time called down fire from the Lord in heaven upon Sodom. No man has seen God at any time yet the Lord spoke with Abraham face to face as the Lord and two companions ate the food Abraham provided. Who did Jacob wrestle with? Then of course there are the passages in the NT. I'm sure you know them. All this for me is enough to not take on a binitarian or modalist doctrine.
@@nohandle257 yeah, you hopeless
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been he is eternal}
The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.
Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 48:12
“Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last.
Rev 1:8;
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father}
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD.
Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father}
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 John 3:20
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Matthew 19:26 {The Omnipotence of The Father}
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 1: 8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father}
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal}
But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Revelation 1:11, 22:16
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: …
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
>> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Revelation 1:17-18
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last:
John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible}
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Matthew 18:20; 28:19-20; John 3:13 {The Omnipresence of the Son}
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Ephesians 4:10
He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things
John 21:17; 2:24-25; 18:4 {The omniscience of the Son}
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep.
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
John 2:24-25
But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people.
He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
John 16:30
Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."
Matthew 28:18; John 6: 36; 14:11; 15:24 {The Omnipotence of The Son}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 22:13, 16
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son}
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
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Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been he is eternal and Omnipresent }
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Psalm 139:7
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 {The Omniscience of the Spirit}
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
“Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.”
1 Corinthians 12:8-11 {The Omnipotence of The Spirit }
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His service,
Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead}
Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;
John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead}
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
Matthew 26:61
and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’”
Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead}
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that
raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead}
Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in
turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that
great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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Psalms 33:6 {God states the word created all}
By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear
Hebrews 1:10 {The Father admits the Son created all}
And, Thou, Lord, {kurios} in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.
John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit admits the Word created all}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word.
He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being.
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
Colossians 1:16-17 {Jesus created all things} John 1:3
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.
Who is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of every creature:
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him. And for him: And he is before all things. And by him all things consist.
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was
made
Job 26:13 33:4 {Holy Spirit creates}
By his Spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Genesis 1:2
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Isaiah 42:5 43:11; 44:22 {God created all things} Psalm 104:5
Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
For this is what the LORD says- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited- he says: “I am the LORD, and there is no other.
Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heaven alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; Who laid the foundations of the earth,
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God ( 'ĕlôhîym (el-o-heem') Plural ) created the heaven and the earth.
Here The Father is portrayed as the creative source of all things.
Genesis 1:2
“.. and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”
Here, in the second verse of Genesis, the Spirit of God appears as active in the creation process
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Genesis 1:3
“Then God said, “Let there be light; and there was light.”
The Son, the eternal Word of God, speaks the first of Gods works into existence.
John 5:37 {Jesus states we have never heard his voice}
And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Jeremiah 32:17
Ah Lord God! Behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee.
Psalm 102:25,
"Of old Thou didst found the earth; and the heavens are the work of Thy hands."
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And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His Service,
A different take: th-cam.com/video/_kHoEDA-Xw4/w-d-xo.html
Trinitarians have a higher view of the son
Irrelevant argument really. What does Scripture say? Colossians 2:9, John 14, I would say Penteocstals do. Jesus is the fulness of the Godhead, not 1/3. He’s the Father.
Silly oneness pentecostal