I actually think that Ramsay is not as bad as Joff, for two reasons: 1) Ramsay was raised in a household in which sadism is considered a virtue; their banner is a flayed man! Joff's family, while sometimes cruel, is not cruel for the sake of cruelty. Joff is sadistic on his own. 2) Ramsay stands behind his decisions, and in fact, is fearless in his pursuit of his goals. Joff, legitimately the most temporally powerful person on the continent, is still a mewling coward. There is literally no redeeming value to that guy. Now, in some ways, I find Ramsay more DANGEROUS than Joff, but nowhere near as despicable.
Are you kidding? Joffrey WAS raised in sadism. Cersei whispered into his ear her ideals all his life. This is the women that killed her best friend at the age of 9, molested her baby brother, slaughtered Bastards and sending mothers into slavery, and the list goes on and on.
That wasn't sadism on Cersei's part. She can be cold and calculating, or hot-headed and viciously vengeful, but she doesn't hurt random strangers just because she enjoys inflicting pain. Cersei always has a reason; she feels slighted, or threatened, or sees some tactical or strategic gain when she hurts or kills people. She hurts Tyrion because she hates him for killing her mother, and perhaps because she's worried that he is the valonqar, for instance. Joff, like Ramsay, was a true sadist: it makes him happy or even horny to hurt people, and he doesn't need any other reason. I'm not suggesting that his upbringing wasn't in many ways effed up, just that he wasn't taught cruelty for its very own sake, the way that Ramsay was.
well said - I agree. Ramsay inspires hate via fear; he's more a monster than human. One does not want to be in the same room with Ramsay Bolton. Joff inspires hate because he gets away with an obscene level malevolence despite being a weakling and a coward. We hate Joff more because of the off-the-chart level of injustices he perpetrates by abusing his position.
+Manuel O'Donnell Ramsey spent hes early childhood with hes mum meaning he wasnt in the dreadfort in fact he didnt even know he was bolton and he got so bad hes mother asked roose for help raising him so he was allready a bad apple before roose even got hes hands on him
Ramsay is simply a more fleshed out example who embodies all of the brutalities in everyday life of early medieval Europe. Like father, Roose, like son. When Ramsay's mother showed up with baby Ramsay asking Roose's help because he's the father, he came close to killing them both for their temerity and impertinence. So, the monster, Ramsay, is actually run-of-the-mill if everyone had the same scrutiny and character development.
I enjoy listening to you, it's nice to hear someone speak about anti-social disorder/sociopath/psychopath that's experienced on the psychology side of things. 5 years ago I ended up literally being abducted and held for 6 days by someone who was diagnosed as such after the fact, after their arrest. It's actually a struggle to find a professional in the field who really has dealt directly with someone with such brain chemistry.
I found your podcasts through a friend who would listen to you for your insights on personality disorders, particularly borderline, as I have that myself. She found it very useful to use when rationalising everything that happened between us. Now I'm listening to you talk about Ramsay, my all time favourite character. Strange concept for me! I liked your advise on therapists bringing in the parents to assess their mental health because my father (who has since been diagnosed with NPD) forced me to see a therapist as a teen, and it pissed me the f off to have some stuck-up counsellor try to figure out why I was acting as I did, when I couldn't even talk about the criminal acts going on back home or ELSE. Anyway, keep indulging your little inner narcissist because these podcasts are great to have going in the background while I'm trying to actually get my shit together!
I loved Theon from the beginning... I mean, he's so complicated and interesting. He's broken, but he gained so much strength and his storyline is fascinating.
Alfie Allen's portrayal of Theon is sheer genius. I get lost in the emotion in his eyes. Theon and jorah are my GoT fave guys. Guess I am a sucker for hard luck stories
I think a lot of people hated Joferey but love-to-hate (or hate-to-love) ramsey. Anyone who's watched the misfits loves Iwan Rheon and realizes the depth of his acting ability. From his outspoken, cowardly character (who eventually beomes a badass) to his transformation to the monstrous Ramsey Snow/Bolton, Iwan Rheon displays his major acting chops. People hated Jofferey but, they enjoy Ramsey's dark sense of humor(ex: when he shook that sausage in front of Theon and said "this? No I'm not a barbarian" xD That scene cracked up everyone living room audience at once xD(even considering how fucked up it actually was xD
Think about ramsay's action in cutting off theon's private parts, is he doing it for fun or pleasure.. maybe. Who is theon? the legitimate heir to the iron island, now that he cant reproduce why choose him as a succesor, in one swift move, ramsay has sown the seed of disunity, he doesnt even have to send an army, theon uncle made that claim for the throne later on. Thus splitting iron island into factions.. Thats how smart ramsay is, smart and brutal, effective..
Thanks for going through this I was thinking of writing a report on the character of Ramsay and this has really helped aid me. Your point of view is unique and the comedic value you add to this video is terrific.
that thing you said about the key element of antisocial personality disorder being a lack of empathy makes a lot of sense! I think you're completely right in that, and when you started to talk about the Borderline one I emmediatly thought you were going to say it's a fear of abandonment. Would you say that in the case of Narcissistc personality disorder the key element would be the obsession with feeling special?
I have Borderline personality disorder. It's good to hear someone talk about it, very VERY few people know how to interact with me. Generally i stay away from people and hate them all. I loved this, i love psychology, and i love Ramsay too. Good report.
MrSwarmin100 GRRM says the TV show is going to be a bit different the next book. So Roose might not be as dead as you think. Other that that I am just joking around.
first of all: great great work, keep it up! im a little disappointed that myranda wasnt adressed in any form. i mean doesnt the relationship to her also affect ramsay in some sort of way and i know this video was uploaded before season 6 but when myranda died ramsay did show some empathy and did feel sad and angry about what happened and also id be interested in the psychology of myranda since she fell in love with him although of all his sadistic traits. she even helped him hunt down the other women and i wonder if he manipulated her into doing all of this or if she was just crazy in love or maybe even as sadistic like him
They actually want to change the story because people didn't like rape? That's what Game of Thrones IS. Rape, violence, torture, horrible things happen. Why does rape cross the line? Because I don't know about you, but I'd rather be raped than burned alive or castrated or have my skull crushed like a watermelon any day of the week. A little girl was burned at the stake, that was WAY worse than Sansa's rape. A baby had his throat cut in season 2 right in front of his mother. Furthermore, Dany got raped in season 1 by Drogo more graphically than Sansa was raped, and Craster's wives were violently raped in season 4 by the Night's Watch mutineers. Sansa's rape was very toned down visually from those other rapes I mentioned; it didn't even show her getting raped, it just zoomed in on Theon. Don't get me wrong, Sansa's rape was one of the most disturbing scenes in the entire show, and I hated seeing that happen to her. I'm just confused how anybody could be surprised that Ramsay Bolton would do that. We've SEEN what he does, what did these people think he'd give her a romantic prince charming wedding night? So 1) We've seen more wanton and violent rape scenes before, 2) Ramsay has clearly demonstrated that he is a monster since season 3 and therefore it's no surprise that he'd do such a thing. So I really don't understand the outrage. I just don't understand why rape suddenly crosses the line when child murder and wanton violence and torture don't cross the line. Rape is NOT worse than child murder and gruesome murder/torture. If you're going to get all triggered and politically correct when GoT does something offensive, then stop watching the show, because newsflash, offensive things WILL happen, and have been happening since the very first episode.
i think a lot of people were mad bc in the books it was someone else who marries ramsay and is raped by him, people thought it was removing a lot of sansa's agency that she'd gone through so much to get and erases her storyline in the vale where she starts to establish herself and play the game instead of going back to another hostage situation
Dude. I just found the new most hated character of all time: Jack Randal, from Outlander. Seriously, he puts both Joffrey and Ramsay in his back pocket. I'm not even kidding. The man is completely sick!!!
Hey,I love your podcasts for how insightful they are!!!!Can you make one on the character of Walter White from Breaking Bad????We would love to see that.....
i would love to see an episode about Tyrion. I know he's not a villain and he doesn't have a specific personality disorder that I can see but I still think it could be really interesting. Also, there is a lot more insight for Tyrion than for Ramsay or Joffrey since he's a major POV character in the books and you know, he's just such a complex character, going from being absolutely scrupulous to his enemies to being almost knightly in his defense of the innocents, from being an arrogant Lannister to being a self-confidence-lacking dwarf. So I would really love an in-depth analysis about him!
That was good, these 3 hours flew by! Thanks from New Caledonia, sorry if my English is a bit awkward... I chuckled several times at the "post trigger alerts" during the first hour, good stuff. One very interesting thing (or so I thought) about Ramsay is the scene in the books in which Roose and Theon/Reek ride together and discuss Ramsay (when Roose tries to make use of Theon), and he talks about the first Heek/Reek. I don't have the book close to me but the quote was something like "But I do I wonder who corrupted the other, Reek or Ramsay?" The 1st Reek was obviously deranged and a necrophiliac, and he was Ramsay's teacher in arms (Roose comment that Reek was "strong as a bull" even if he had that smelly illness) which explains his fighting style.... and could have been a much bigger influence to young Ramsay than just being his whipping boy, a toy to order around. Keep up the good work, too bad you couldn't have watched the second episode of season 6 by the time you made this video because.... well, you know. *Spoiler Alert don't read if you're not at S6 ep2* ......................................... after he kills Roose (in the same way Roose killed Robb Stark at the Red Wedding) and especially Walda and the baby, you can tell he doesn't enjoy it. He forces himself to watch, almost turning his head away a couple times, that was interesting behavior coming from him..
This is just great. I've read the books a while back but never remembered Ramsay. I'm doing another reread to get this stuff. This is quite a shock. All the great stuff Ramsay gets up to.
40 minutes in and this is really interesting but I have to go to bed. I'll watch the rest tomorrow. (This is obviously to remind me to watch it and where I got to, but it really is a great video.)
Off topic a little. The burning alive of shreen was much worse than the Sansa rape. I thought the Sansa rape was not as graphic as it should of been. I'm a real fan of Ramsay since I've listened to this. I'm doing a reread of the books to get the Ramsay info. I've also looked at his TH-cam appearances. Looks like he even gets worse in season six.
Thomas McCurdy The thing about the Sansa rape is that it was the only thing that made sense for the characters. Ramsay is that kind of person. When he wants sex, he will get sex. Nothing else would have made sense. Did honestly expect Ramsay to just give Sansa a peck on the check then go to bed?
Its strange to me that people are okay with all types of carnage, violence, destruction, and all manner of horrible things, yet they lose their minds over a rape scene. Its not as if rape was being glorified, it was showing how horrible it is. But of course they caved in and changed the story after uproar on twitter. I really do not get it. The scene is supposed to make you upset and uncomfortable, and they had to show how evil Ramsay can be to make you hate him even more.
Why people enjoy game of thrones is simple, it all became clear at the red wedding, nobody is safe, the stakes are real and plot armor is rare, even though some characters have had some plot armor, you cant predict the outcome of the next episode, you cant predict starks winning a battle or whatever, that is way more thrilling to watch that some random tv show where each episode has its general formula and at the end everything returns to normal. That plus the meaty parallel story telling(if you are going to kill off characters people get attached to you need to bring in new ones at a similar rate, so you need many parallel story lines going in order to do that without hickups).
Me too i don't want him to die he's making the show more exciting:D but I don't like him i want them to capture him nd let theon and sansa take care of him :D
+Michael Lang I'd want him to die but in a very climactic and just way, like if he died on the last episode of a season by Theon or Sansa. He's fucked-up but way too well-written and conflicted to disrespect his character.
Do you have any evidence to support your claims about the in utero experience on personality development and nervous system development ? Very interesting podcast anyways, keep up the good work !
I like how You addressed those of us Game of Thrones fans that like Ramsay.Sadism,yea I did enjoy most of the gory,Bloody,things in GOT, Except Ramsay's demise creeped me out, gave me a wheezy stomach until episode 10 came out. So I applaud the creators for managing to evoke sadness,disgust and fear outta me for a week. Keep up the Awesome videos, Peace,Love,Respect.
I didnt get far enough in the series yet but he's acted by the same person as my favorite character Simon from MISFITS so ill probably be biased about how I feel about him as a character when I do lol
Okay, I've finally finished listening to you talk for 3 hours straight and I have a few comments: 1. Awesome show. Very interesting and informative! You've earned yourself another subscriber and tbh I don't understand why you have so little subscribers considering your podcasts are really well made, at least imo :) 2. I think that the diagnosis is very accurate. I've just began studying Psychology at uni and from my comparably limited knowledge I would've diagnosed him exactly the same. 3. Q: Can Sexually Sadistic Personality not be diagnosed for people who enjoy hurting their rape victim while they are raping them, opposed to only being turned on by seeing people suffer? I hope you understand what I meant... And would you then consider Euron Greyjoy to have this personality disorder, since he was turned on when he shame walked Yara and the Sandsnakes through KL on s7 ep3? 4. I haven't watched your other GoT related videos (this is my first one in fact), but if you haven't already can you please do a video about Arya's and Sansa's development and means of adapting to their circumstances throughout the series? And also I'd love it if you did a video about Jaime Lannister's development and essential redemption, and Littlefinger (also an Antisocial, though more of a Sociopath and a Psychopath imo), Ollena Tyrell and Margaery's different technics of influencing others for their own benefits. Thanksssssss!! ^_^
Thanks, Lulita! I might do an episode on Euron, Sansa, Jaime, and Arya in the future, so maybe I'll answer those questions then. Good questions though. You can find all the GoTs eps on our website.
Even though Ramsay is a sadistic jerk I always look forward to his scenes for some reason and I kinda don't want him to die anytime soon which is strange. Good job though I watched the whole thing and you kept me entertained throughout!
killing 2 birds with 1 stone? opening scene of battle of the bastards starts with ramsay leading rickon to the battlefield and cutting him loose, giving him the imaginary chance of escape. His "half brother" reacts maniacally and tries to save him, all in vain, whats next? engulf in vengeance, jon snow disregard his war tactics and charged, the army cant let their leader go at it by himself, thus all are obligated to charge. In 1 action, ONE, ramsay potentially might have killed not 2 birds, but flock of inter species birds with 1 stone.Ramsay is a calculated, cunning, ruthless, efficient, brilliant bastard. and he has a wicked sense of humour, when asked about his father death by the northern noble and the guy cheekily said he would kill his father too, ramsay just grinned.. His downfall, underestimating sansa contribution, who wouldve thought that sansa would reconcile with the very person that sold her to him.
Hate to be "that guy" but characters in the story become wights rather than White Walkers after they die. WWs are an entirely different humanoid species supposedly.
You could become a white walker, getting stabbed by a dragonglass blade in the heart. But yes, normally you become a wight if you die close to White Walkers.
Btw, I personally don't agree that Ned was all that honorable or good. He had a holier then thou attitude but in the end was hypocritical, because he expected everyone to keep to his principles except for himself or the people he loved. If someone broke their vows, he decided that they were wrong either way, there were no good reasons for someone to break their vows, so off with their head, except for Ned himself or people Ned loved, they could break their vows for good reasons, but no one else (see jaime and the night's watch guy) furthermore he thought that putting stannis on the throne vs war was "no choice at all" so basically the small folk who would die in such a war were all nessacary sacrifices to put a guy on the throne who he wanted on the throne, because Ned decided that he was the rightful king, while he should know at that point that "rightful king" doesn't mean anything considering the fact that he himself fought against a "rightful king" because he happened to be crazy. So yeah... thousends of lives for putting a guy of Ned's choice on the throne... ok then. I mean, it'd have been different if he'd done it because Joffrey was a monster, but that wasn't why Ned did it... it was all about his precious honor that he hid behind which was really just a shield for him to justify his own actions in my opinion. I mean... I have no doubt that he believed in it, but that doesn't make it right if you ask me.
INCBlackbird I think you’ve missed out on something important to the story-everything or most of what you stated about Ned is true but that was his surface character he had much deeper motivations. Being honorable is usually associated with doing what is right, but Ned would disregard his honor if they conflicted especially when it came to children. He lies to protect Jon and admits guilt to protect Sansa. He tells Cersei everything in the hopes of avoiding her children’s deaths and falls out with King Rob twice arguing about killing Targaryen children both past and present. His actions take place under the guise of honor but that’s not who he truly is. Truly honorable characters do terrible things in the name of it all. The beauty of the ‘honorable’ Ned Stark is discovering where he draws the line l
Most of these comments disturb the hell out of me. i just don't undetstand people sometimes. Perhaps you can do an episode on the 20% of us who are highly sensitive (HSPs...Elaine Arons research) and/or empaths?
This was a long and very enjoyable podcast, thank you! I do find Ramsay to be a frightening character and I can only hope his death will be a long, frightful and painful one as he was to his victims. However, usually characters of this caliber die a quick death. Joffrey was worse because of how abusive he was as a king and no one had the power to really curbed his juvenile tyrant except forTywin Lannister. When Joffrey offended him, Tywin sent him to bed. Joffrey's death was too short.
What about Doctor Doom? He's pretty hated...though I love him :( In all seriousness, this video is amazing and you should be super proud of the work you put in. I've only just found it and I'm now considering myself a fan of you ^_^
Dr. Honda, Interesting listening to your comments & thanks for them. So, 'Le droit du seigneur' did exist in the real world, not only in Westeros, but was actually practised by European nobility up to the 18th century. As this was obviously an extremely delicate and ambiguous subject, it was taken up in literature and music - the most famous references are probably 'Le mariage de Figaro', a theatre comedy by French playwright Beaumarchais from the late 18th century which was turned into an opera by Viennese composer Mozart later on. The whole piece is about a count who wants to use his 'right' when his man-servant Figaro is getting married to one of the household's woman-servants and them and the countess forging intrigues preventing him from using his 'right'. It foreschadowed the French Revolution and was actually forbidden in some neighbouring states as rulers feared the political impact. The entire 'Game of Thrones'-saga - which I am only watching, not reading - is full of all kinds of historical and mythological references and allusions, probably that's why it is so absolutely fascinating. Tx again for your podcast, rgds.
btw, I haven't studied psychology myself, but I'm very interested in it, I've read quite a lot about it and I like to diagnose characters, though of course recognising that I don't have enough knowledge to make a proper diagnosis, it's more for fun and practice. That said I think Theon has a lot of narcessistic elements. But not in the same way that Cersei for example has them. He doesn't lack empathy, But it's more as an overcompensation for an extremely low self esteem. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that hypothesis.
Rhialisse Xavorin, I agree. The rape of Sansa was bad (very bad) and let's not forget that it happened in front of Theon, whom, at this point she believes killed her two younger brothers. However, burning your own daughter at the stake, killing two innocent farm boys (falsely said to be the young Stark boys by Theon), flaying an old lady who let Sansa know that she has friends in the North (candle in the window), and repeatedly stabbing a pregnant woman to death (red wedding) are fundamentally worse.
Long, rambling, disorganised. Instead of attempting to retell both books and TV shows why not deliver on the title promise of psychology of a single character?
So now that we are 4 episodes in to season six, anything new to add? What opinion d you have about Ramsay's reaction towards Miranda's death? (the kennel master's daughter.)
Thank you so much for this video!! In a way, it helped me in writing my Anti-social character/s for my comic/novel. He is vile aswel!! Now that I know some of the things that cause this disorder I can write his backround and locate him into an environment better...
Ok, another thing, Mance wasn't even there when Theon and Jeyne escape, I mean... at most the spearwives helped but Theon was the one to do the work in the end, he got them into the room, he kept Jeyne calm (while the spearwives were calling her a bitch or something) so it's more like, Theon rescued Jeyne and himself, Mance had very little to do with it if you ask me? Anyways, back to listening...
Ok, I really like your analysis of Ramsay, and tbh, I don't think it has to be one of the hypotheses that you suggested, I think it's a combination of most or even all of them. The only thing I think there's really nothing solid on is the situation with his mother. Because I don't think we have any way of knowing how she responded to Ramsay, your hypothesis on that is solid and logical but I think it would be just as logical that she clung to him and wanted her son in Roose' castle to make herself feel better? I think there's no way of knowing how she responded to Ramsay, and I really want to know more about that so I can properly analyse it.
Thank you for this podcast! Really. I don't hate Ramsay. But I don't do this because I like him having power. He's a far more complex character than most fans/readers think. That's why I like him. (I like all characters. I find it difficult to hate fictional characters.) I read the books and watch the show. I think you're doing the right thing - analyzing him in a psychological way. IMO, Ramsay is a high functioning sociopath. I have experience in psychology, and I worked with sociopaths. If you want to, you can drop me a PM over here. I'd like to get in touch with you, I guess. And gaming isn't bad. D&D (Dungeons & Dragons) is great! Long live the 3.5 edition. P. S.: Would you also do a podcast on Theon, too? I'd like that.
People miss the point with the Sansa-rape-topic. It's not about showing or choosing a rape scene. It is about making a wrong decision - basically sacrificing this character's integrity - for convenience (and stepping over heavy issues like rape by saying words like "made an informed choice" and "is an empowered woman" - quote D&D). Who in their right mind would let a character who is obviously one of the main and good protagonists and who went through hell for 4 seasons be convinced by about 5 sentences (from Littlefinger) to marry the guy/family, who killed her brother and mother? How LOGICAL is that? And for what? Because they needed a stand-in for the Jane-character from the books to free Reek/Theon. Empowerment my ass! This character was butchered for a more convenient storyline. So this is bad, lazy writing, which offends anyone who knows how character development should work in stories, especially in such huge productions - and this has nothing to do with the books. They could have let her be raped or whatever if IT MADE SENSE, but it did not. It became a rape/sexscene/women-issue the moment D&D opened their mouths and spit out the most stupid sentences ever - in combination with the meaningless rape of a protagonist, it is just ridiculous. How can anyone present such a scene, with no logic to it, and talk about empowerment??? They should have kept their mouths shut. Oh, and don't forget the so "tasteful" name of the episode (Unbent, Unbroken)... I mean, common, is this a 10 Million/episode production or school cinema? (just keep rolling my eyes)
Takemysenf what else could have happened that night? Really think about the kind of person Ramsay has consistently been portrayed as. He sees everyone as only tools for him to get what he wants. If he did literally anything else, it would have been out of character.
I believe that LF was falsely hoping that Sansa could handle herself and seriously take revenge for her family on her own, or at least hang around until he comes to save her with the knights of the Vale and look like the hero. Now that I think about it, it legit doesn't make a lot of sense... you're right. LF is smarter than that... it's a weird choice by the writers... xD
hes alot more likable in the show, hes terrible but hes attractive and seems to have a sense of messed up humor. The book is different, we "like" him as we like serial killers and horrible things. It's interesting to see how far the rabbit hole goes with the darkness of humans. The inferno is much more popular then the rest of the divine comedy. etc etc etc
I think George as a little soft spot for short, young-looking blonde dragon women. She's the only one who has happy endings. Well, as far as things working out for her. I wonder who she was in his life to have such a successful stride in the books?
Why was The Wall built? To keep the white walkers safe from Ramsay Bolton.
XD
To keep brown walkers safe from Trump's USA. :p
Johan Dale Trump has jewish grandchildren. so he can't be the massive racist idiots believe he is can he.
doubt it, altgough there is a theory that the white walkers created the wall and i do personally believe they did
That doest mean shit
I actually think that Ramsay is not as bad as Joff, for two reasons:
1) Ramsay was raised in a household in which sadism is considered a virtue; their banner is a flayed man! Joff's family, while sometimes cruel, is not cruel for the sake of cruelty. Joff is sadistic on his own.
2) Ramsay stands behind his decisions, and in fact, is fearless in his pursuit of his goals. Joff, legitimately the most temporally powerful person on the continent, is still a mewling coward. There is literally no redeeming value to that guy.
Now, in some ways, I find Ramsay more DANGEROUS than Joff, but nowhere near as despicable.
This is exactly what I have been trying to explain to my brother
Are you kidding? Joffrey WAS raised in sadism. Cersei whispered into his ear her ideals all his life. This is the women that killed her best friend at the age of 9, molested her baby brother, slaughtered Bastards and sending mothers into slavery, and the list goes on and on.
That wasn't sadism on Cersei's part. She can be cold and calculating, or hot-headed and viciously vengeful, but she doesn't hurt random strangers just because she enjoys inflicting pain. Cersei always has a reason; she feels slighted, or threatened, or sees some tactical or strategic gain when she hurts or kills people. She hurts Tyrion because she hates him for killing her mother, and perhaps because she's worried that he is the valonqar, for instance.
Joff, like Ramsay, was a true sadist: it makes him happy or even horny to hurt people, and he doesn't need any other reason. I'm not suggesting that his upbringing wasn't in many ways effed up, just that he wasn't taught cruelty for its very own sake, the way that Ramsay was.
well said - I agree. Ramsay inspires hate via fear; he's more a monster than human. One does not want to be in the same room with Ramsay Bolton.
Joff inspires hate because he gets away with an obscene level malevolence despite being a weakling and a coward. We hate Joff more because of the off-the-chart level of injustices he perpetrates by abusing his position.
+Manuel O'Donnell Ramsey spent hes early childhood with hes mum meaning he wasnt in the dreadfort in fact he didnt even know he was bolton and he got so bad hes mother asked roose for help raising him so he was allready a bad apple before roose even got hes hands on him
2:05:35 Beginning of psychological diagnosis of Ramsay.
Ramsay is simply a more fleshed out example who embodies all of the brutalities in everyday life of early medieval Europe. Like father, Roose, like son. When Ramsay's mother showed up with baby Ramsay asking Roose's help because he's the father, he came close to killing them both for their temerity and impertinence. So, the monster, Ramsay, is actually run-of-the-mill if everyone had the same scrutiny and character development.
Most hated villain? Professor Umbridge, of course!
...yeah.
I enjoy listening to you, it's nice to hear someone speak about anti-social disorder/sociopath/psychopath that's experienced on the psychology side of things. 5 years ago I ended up literally being abducted and held for 6 days by someone who was diagnosed as such after the fact, after their arrest. It's actually a struggle to find a professional in the field who really has dealt directly with someone with such brain chemistry.
+Zoey Koontz I'm so sorry to hear that you went through that, Zoey. My heart goes out to you.
You probably should have waited two months for season 6 to come out and get more insight on Ramsay Bolton
I found your podcasts through a friend who would listen to you for your insights on personality disorders, particularly borderline, as I have that myself. She found it very useful to use when rationalising everything that happened between us. Now I'm listening to you talk about Ramsay, my all time favourite character. Strange concept for me! I liked your advise on therapists bringing in the parents to assess their mental health because my father (who has since been diagnosed with NPD) forced me to see a therapist as a teen, and it pissed me the f off to have some stuck-up counsellor try to figure out why I was acting as I did, when I couldn't even talk about the criminal acts going on back home or ELSE. Anyway, keep indulging your little inner narcissist because these podcasts are great to have going in the background while I'm trying to actually get my shit together!
you should say evil instead of hated, since Ramsay has a lot of fans
Umbridge is worse than everyone except Ramsay
I loved Theon from the beginning... I mean, he's so complicated and interesting. He's broken, but he gained so much strength and his storyline is fascinating.
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+ElijahMFearon does that make Hillary Cersis?
Alfie Allen's portrayal of Theon is sheer genius. I get lost in the emotion in his eyes. Theon and jorah are my GoT fave guys. Guess I am a sucker for hard luck stories
Same Theon is an amazing character :)
I luv Ramsay Bolton, he was fun to watch and was a great villain
Who are you
I think a lot of people hated Joferey but love-to-hate (or hate-to-love) ramsey. Anyone who's watched the misfits loves Iwan Rheon and realizes the depth of his acting ability. From his outspoken, cowardly character (who eventually beomes a badass) to his transformation to the monstrous Ramsey Snow/Bolton, Iwan Rheon displays his major acting chops. People hated Jofferey but, they enjoy Ramsey's dark sense of humor(ex: when he shook that sausage in front of Theon and said "this? No I'm not a barbarian" xD That scene cracked up everyone living room audience at once xD(even considering how fucked up it actually was xD
Think about ramsay's action in cutting off theon's private parts, is he doing it for fun or pleasure.. maybe. Who is theon? the legitimate heir to the iron island, now that he cant reproduce why choose him as a succesor, in one swift move, ramsay has sown the seed of disunity, he doesnt even have to send an army, theon uncle made that claim for the throne later on. Thus splitting iron island into factions.. Thats how smart ramsay is, smart and brutal, effective..
Thanks for going through this I was thinking of writing a report on the character of Ramsay and this has really helped aid me. Your point of view is unique and the comedic value you add to this video is terrific.
Thanks!
A Game of Thrones came out in 1996 making it exactly the same age as me. And I am a huge fan, and I'm studying psychology so that video works well.
I'd love an episode on Hannibal Lecter
yes!
That could take a looot of hours to cover.
This comment was written like a year ago but please, yes, let this happen XD
that thing you said about the key element of antisocial personality disorder being a lack of empathy makes a lot of sense! I think you're completely right in that, and when you started to talk about the Borderline one I emmediatly thought you were going to say it's a fear of abandonment. Would you say that in the case of Narcissistc personality disorder the key element would be the obsession with feeling special?
more like insecurity
"Do not let this happen in front of my eyes..." Gonna have to invoke that while watching GoT, too!
Jaime Lannister is another really interesting character from GOT you should do a podcast on him
+Aziz Woodward Ooo. Good idea!
do one
I have Borderline personality disorder. It's good to hear someone talk about it, very VERY few people know how to interact with me. Generally i stay away from people and hate them all. I loved this, i love psychology, and i love Ramsay too. Good report.
Thanks!
how is it "borderline"?
I think a fitting end for Ramsey would be his dad flaying him as a part of the Bolt-on conspiracy. The look on his face would be priceless.
Ramsey has already killed his dad..
MrSwarmin100 In the show. I care not for D&D's fan fiction...
+SirGrips What?
MrSwarmin100 GRRM says the TV show is going to be a bit different the next book. So Roose might not be as dead as you think. Other that that I am just joking around.
well that is not going to happen now. His dad is dead
first of all: great great work, keep it up! im a little disappointed that myranda wasnt adressed in any form. i mean doesnt the relationship to her also affect ramsay in some sort of way and i know this video was uploaded before season 6 but when myranda died ramsay did show some empathy and did feel sad and angry about what happened and also id be interested in the psychology of myranda since she fell in love with him although of all his sadistic traits. she even helped him hunt down the other women and i wonder if he manipulated her into doing all of this or if she was just crazy in love or maybe even as sadistic like him
They actually want to change the story because people didn't like rape? That's what Game of Thrones IS. Rape, violence, torture, horrible things happen. Why does rape cross the line? Because I don't know about you, but I'd rather be raped than burned alive or castrated or have my skull crushed like a watermelon any day of the week. A little girl was burned at the stake, that was WAY worse than Sansa's rape. A baby had his throat cut in season 2 right in front of his mother. Furthermore, Dany got raped in season 1 by Drogo more graphically than Sansa was raped, and Craster's wives were violently raped in season 4 by the Night's Watch mutineers. Sansa's rape was very toned down visually from those other rapes I mentioned; it didn't even show her getting raped, it just zoomed in on Theon.
Don't get me wrong, Sansa's rape was one of the most disturbing scenes in the entire show, and I hated seeing that happen to her. I'm just confused how anybody could be surprised that Ramsay Bolton would do that. We've SEEN what he does, what did these people think he'd give her a romantic prince charming wedding night? So 1) We've seen more wanton and violent rape scenes before, 2) Ramsay has clearly demonstrated that he is a monster since season 3 and therefore it's no surprise that he'd do such a thing. So I really don't understand the outrage.
I just don't understand why rape suddenly crosses the line when child murder and wanton violence and torture don't cross the line. Rape is NOT worse than child murder and gruesome murder/torture. If you're going to get all triggered and politically correct when GoT does something offensive, then stop watching the show, because newsflash, offensive things WILL happen, and have been happening since the very first episode.
i think a lot of people were mad bc in the books it was someone else who marries ramsay and is raped by him, people thought it was removing a lot of sansa's agency that she'd gone through so much to get and erases her storyline in the vale where she starts to establish herself and play the game instead of going back to another hostage situation
I heart rape..
Dude. I just found the new most hated character of all time:
Jack Randal, from Outlander. Seriously, he puts both Joffrey and Ramsay in his back pocket. I'm not even kidding. The man is completely sick!!!
You mean Edmure Tully?
A 3 hour video about Ramsey fucking Bolton? I love that guy. I haven't been this excited since the Hitler marathon on the History Channel.
Ha!
Hey,I love your podcasts for how insightful they are!!!!Can you make one on the character of Walter White from Breaking Bad????We would love to see that.....
+Ashray Kotian Thanks, Ashray!
Very interesting. Thanks.
+RamsayBolton - Sick fuck
jimbob bobjim
Thanks! :-*
RamsayBolton - Fat Walda fuckin fuck!
Yes I agree! So do my hounds.
I love the saucisse scene
i would love to see an episode about Tyrion.
I know he's not a villain and he doesn't have a specific personality disorder that I can see but I still think it could be really interesting. Also, there is a lot more insight for Tyrion than for Ramsay or Joffrey since he's a major POV character in the books and you know, he's just such a complex character, going from being absolutely scrupulous to his enemies to being almost knightly in his defense of the innocents, from being an arrogant Lannister to being a self-confidence-lacking dwarf. So I would really love an in-depth analysis about him!
Ooo, yeah, I'm also going to do ones on Cersei and Theon.
Ramsay was the Joker of GoT
That was good, these 3 hours flew by! Thanks from New Caledonia, sorry if my English is a bit awkward...
I chuckled several times at the "post trigger alerts" during the first hour, good stuff.
One very interesting thing (or so I thought) about Ramsay is the scene in the books in which Roose and Theon/Reek ride together and discuss Ramsay (when Roose tries to make use of Theon), and he talks about the first Heek/Reek.
I don't have the book close to me but the quote was something like "But I do I wonder who corrupted the other, Reek or Ramsay?"
The 1st Reek was obviously deranged and a necrophiliac, and he was Ramsay's teacher in arms (Roose comment that Reek was "strong as a bull" even if he had that smelly illness) which explains his fighting style.... and could have been a much bigger influence to young Ramsay than just being his whipping boy, a toy to order around.
Keep up the good work, too bad you couldn't have watched the second episode of season 6 by the time you made this video because.... well, you know. *Spoiler Alert don't read if you're not at S6 ep2* .........................................
after he kills Roose (in the same way Roose killed Robb Stark at the Red Wedding) and especially Walda and the baby, you can tell he doesn't enjoy it. He forces himself to watch, almost turning his head away a couple times, that was interesting behavior coming from him..
+Randall Flagg Thanks, Randall! You're rad.
+Psychology In Seattle That is who I would enjoy a psychological assessment of... Randall Flagg!!
This is just great. I've read the books a while back but never remembered Ramsay. I'm doing another reread to get this stuff. This is quite a shock. All the great stuff Ramsay gets up to.
+Thomas McCurdy Thanks!
40 minutes in and this is really interesting but I have to go to bed. I'll watch the rest tomorrow. (This is obviously to remind me to watch it and where I got to, but it really is a great video.)
Thanks so much, Kathryn. You're a shining beacon of niceness on the internet. :-)
3 hours of discussing ramsay bolton?? LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Off topic a little. The burning alive of shreen was much worse than the Sansa rape. I thought the Sansa rape was not as graphic as it should of been. I'm a real fan of Ramsay since I've listened to this. I'm doing a reread of the books to get the Ramsay info. I've also looked at his TH-cam appearances. Looks like he even gets worse in season six.
I think he kind of mentioned about it without it being a spoiler
Thomas McCurdy The thing about the Sansa rape is that it was the only thing that made sense for the characters. Ramsay is that kind of person. When he wants sex, he will get sex. Nothing else would have made sense. Did honestly expect Ramsay to just give Sansa a peck on the check then go to bed?
stannis did that out of religious fanaticism, not pleasure or sport or passion (sadism)
"...not as graphic as it should have been." ? Sick.
The psychology of Melisandre would be informative.
Wow! Great job dude! Keep it coming
Thanks, Gami!
Its strange to me that people are okay with all types of carnage, violence, destruction, and all manner of horrible things, yet they lose their minds over a rape scene. Its not as if rape was being glorified, it was showing how horrible it is. But of course they caved in and changed the story after uproar on twitter. I really do not get it. The scene is supposed to make you upset and uncomfortable, and they had to show how evil Ramsay can be to make you hate him even more.
Let's appreciate Iwan Rheon
Just discovered you and subscribed. Extremely well done.
Thanks! You can find other GoT eps on our website.
This is beyond amazing. Please do more Game of Thrones characters!
+Tyler Snell Thanks, Tyler! Check out the episode on Joffrey!
Why people enjoy game of thrones is simple, it all became clear at the red wedding, nobody is safe, the stakes are real and plot armor is rare, even though some characters have had some plot armor, you cant predict the outcome of the next episode, you cant predict starks winning a battle or whatever, that is way more thrilling to watch that some random tv show where each episode has its general formula and at the end everything returns to normal. That plus the meaty parallel story telling(if you are going to kill off characters people get attached to you need to bring in new ones at a similar rate, so you need many parallel story lines going in order to do that without hickups).
"The plot armor is rare" I don't know man. Jon Snow was straight up dead and got resurrected lol
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well the show has degraded a bit in the last 2 seasons I'll give you that
john and the assassin girl were pretty safe
the plot armour has been strong since the end of season 6
Aw man, this sure didn’t age well haha
Ramsay Bolton was my favourite character ;-;
I loved this tbh, will probably listen to more. Just played games with no volume while listening to you. :)
Thanks!
Great work.Do one on Euron Greyjoy.
Thanks!
Euron Greyjoy is another villain worth looking into. Though he's a lot more unstable in the books.
I know I should hate Ramsay but I just don't.
I was relieved when he didn't get killed.
Am I messed up?
+Michael Lang Nah.
Me too i don't want him to die he's making the show more exciting:D but I don't like him i want them to capture him nd let theon and sansa take care of him :D
+Michael Lang I'd want him to die but in a very climactic and just way, like if he died on the last episode of a season by Theon or Sansa. He's fucked-up but way too well-written and conflicted to disrespect his character.
well are u a show viewer or book reader? Show version is likable puppy compared to the book version
Kaitlyn Sheridan how did u read the book ?? online or u bought it or what ?
Do you have any evidence to support your claims about the in utero experience on personality development and nervous system development ? Very interesting podcast anyways, keep up the good work !
Ramsey is definitely worse than Joffrey was, but he’s also nowhere near as hated.
Joffrey was LOATHED by E V E R Y O N E
I like how You addressed those of us Game of Thrones fans that like Ramsay.Sadism,yea I did enjoy most of the gory,Bloody,things in GOT, Except Ramsay's demise creeped me out, gave me a wheezy stomach until episode 10 came out. So I applaud the creators for managing to evoke sadness,disgust and fear outta me for a week.
Keep up the Awesome videos,
Peace,Love,Respect.
Thanks!
I didnt get far enough in the series yet but he's acted by the same person as my favorite character Simon from MISFITS so ill probably be biased about how I feel about him as a character when I do lol
Thank you so so so much for making this!
You're welcome!
Okay, I've finally finished listening to you talk for 3 hours straight and I have a few comments:
1. Awesome show. Very interesting and informative! You've earned yourself another subscriber and tbh I don't understand why you have so little subscribers considering your podcasts are really well made, at least imo :)
2. I think that the diagnosis is very accurate. I've just began studying Psychology at uni and from my comparably limited knowledge I would've diagnosed him exactly the same.
3. Q: Can Sexually Sadistic Personality not be diagnosed for people who enjoy hurting their rape victim while they are raping them, opposed to only being turned on by seeing people suffer? I hope you understand what I meant... And would you then consider Euron Greyjoy to have this personality disorder, since he was turned on when he shame walked Yara and the Sandsnakes through KL on s7 ep3?
4. I haven't watched your other GoT related videos (this is my first one in fact), but if you haven't already can you please do a video about Arya's and Sansa's development and means of adapting to their circumstances throughout the series? And also I'd love it if you did a video about Jaime Lannister's development and essential redemption, and Littlefinger (also an Antisocial, though more of a Sociopath and a Psychopath imo), Ollena Tyrell and Margaery's different technics of influencing others for their own benefits.
Thanksssssss!! ^_^
Thanks, Lulita! I might do an episode on Euron, Sansa, Jaime, and Arya in the future, so maybe I'll answer those questions then. Good questions though. You can find all the GoTs eps on our website.
Even though Ramsay is a sadistic jerk I always look forward to his scenes for some reason and I kinda don't want him to die anytime soon which is strange. Good job though I watched the whole thing and you kept me entertained throughout!
+L.Lawliet Thanks! That means a lot to me.
I hate Ramsay so much.All these people that are saying they love his character should imagine being in his victims shoes
killing 2 birds with 1 stone? opening scene of battle of the bastards starts with ramsay leading rickon to the battlefield and cutting him loose, giving him the imaginary chance of escape. His "half brother" reacts maniacally and tries to save him, all in vain, whats next? engulf in vengeance, jon snow disregard his war tactics and charged, the army cant let their leader go at it by himself, thus all are obligated to charge. In 1 action, ONE, ramsay potentially might have killed not 2 birds, but flock of inter species birds with 1 stone.Ramsay is a calculated, cunning, ruthless, efficient, brilliant bastard. and he has a wicked sense of humour, when asked about his father death by the northern noble and the guy cheekily said he would kill his father too, ramsay just grinned..
His downfall, underestimating sansa contribution, who wouldve thought that sansa would reconcile with the very person that sold her to him.
Hate to be "that guy" but characters in the story become wights rather than White Walkers after they die. WWs are an entirely different humanoid species supposedly.
You could become a white walker, getting stabbed by a dragonglass blade in the heart. But yes, normally you become a wight if you die close to White Walkers.
They can breed with humans..
Can you please do a video on the twins, Cersei and Jaime lannister? 😀 If you already haven't.
Btw, I personally don't agree that Ned was all that honorable or good. He had a holier then thou attitude but in the end was hypocritical, because he expected everyone to keep to his principles except for himself or the people he loved. If someone broke their vows, he decided that they were wrong either way, there were no good reasons for someone to break their vows, so off with their head, except for Ned himself or people Ned loved, they could break their vows for good reasons, but no one else (see jaime and the night's watch guy) furthermore he thought that putting stannis on the throne vs war was "no choice at all" so basically the small folk who would die in such a war were all nessacary sacrifices to put a guy on the throne who he wanted on the throne, because Ned decided that he was the rightful king, while he should know at that point that "rightful king" doesn't mean anything considering the fact that he himself fought against a "rightful king" because he happened to be crazy. So yeah... thousends of lives for putting a guy of Ned's choice on the throne... ok then. I mean, it'd have been different if he'd done it because Joffrey was a monster, but that wasn't why Ned did it... it was all about his precious honor that he hid behind which was really just a shield for him to justify his own actions in my opinion. I mean... I have no doubt that he believed in it, but that doesn't make it right if you ask me.
Technically "the rightful king" never even had a claim since he was Jaime's bastard and we all know Stannis wold have been better than Joffrey.
INCBlackbird I think you’ve missed out on something important to the story-everything or most of what you stated about Ned is true but that was his surface character he had much deeper motivations. Being honorable is usually associated with doing what is right, but Ned would disregard his honor if they conflicted especially when it came to children. He lies to protect Jon and admits guilt to protect Sansa. He tells Cersei everything in the hopes of avoiding her children’s deaths and falls out with King Rob twice arguing about killing Targaryen children both past and present. His actions take place under the guise of honor but that’s not who he truly is. Truly honorable characters do terrible things in the name of it all. The beauty of the ‘honorable’ Ned Stark is discovering where he draws the line l
I’m probably the only one who’s favorite characters are the villains
Most of these comments disturb the hell out of me. i just don't undetstand people sometimes. Perhaps you can do an episode on the 20% of us who are highly sensitive (HSPs...Elaine Arons research) and/or empaths?
Yes. Many people would agree with you.
This was a long and very enjoyable podcast, thank you!
I do find Ramsay to be a frightening character and I can only hope his death will be a long, frightful and painful one as he was to his victims. However, usually characters of this caliber die a quick death.
Joffrey was worse because of how abusive he was as a king and no one had the power to really curbed his juvenile tyrant except forTywin Lannister. When Joffrey offended him, Tywin sent him to bed.
Joffrey's death was too short.
Thanks!
Maybe the furor over Sansa's rape will spare Rickon from horrific torture. One can only hope.
wow!!!! I was just telling someone yesterday I'd love to hear a Ramsay Bolton episode!!!
+lyndon bailey I read your mind...
You should do one on Euron Greyjoy (deff look at the new TWOW)
What about Doctor Doom? He's pretty hated...though I love him :(
In all seriousness, this video is amazing and you should be super proud of the work you put in. I've only just found it and I'm now considering myself a fan of you ^_^
1:52 For some reason I expected him to say "KILLER KEEMSTAR!"
Dr. Honda, Interesting listening to your comments & thanks for them. So, 'Le droit du seigneur' did exist in the real world, not only in Westeros, but was actually practised by European nobility up to the 18th century. As this was obviously an extremely delicate and ambiguous subject, it was taken up in literature and music - the most famous references are probably 'Le mariage de Figaro', a theatre comedy by French playwright Beaumarchais from the late 18th century which was turned into an opera by Viennese composer Mozart later on. The whole piece is about a count who wants to use his 'right' when his man-servant Figaro is getting married to one of the household's woman-servants and them and the countess forging intrigues preventing him from using his 'right'. It foreschadowed the French Revolution and was actually forbidden in some neighbouring states as rulers feared the political impact. The entire 'Game of Thrones'-saga - which I am only watching, not reading - is full of all kinds of historical and mythological references and allusions, probably that's why it is so absolutely fascinating. Tx again for your podcast, rgds.
+Ursula Mirbach Thanks for the interesting info, Ursula!
btw, I haven't studied psychology myself, but I'm very interested in it, I've read quite a lot about it and I like to diagnose characters, though of course recognising that I don't have enough knowledge to make a proper diagnosis, it's more for fun and practice. That said I think Theon has a lot of narcessistic elements. But not in the same way that Cersei for example has them. He doesn't lack empathy, But it's more as an overcompensation for an extremely low self esteem. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that hypothesis.
Very interesting. You should make one about Anders Behring Breivig maybe.... If not that wouldn't be to loaded, if you know what I mean.
What about his relationship with myranda?
michael burn She's a show only character, and this analysis is about book Ramsey
I had to look to the future episodes to make sure e died before I could continue to watch the rest of the season.
Ha!
2:25, on how one person in a sistem is the one with a personality desorder, that´s a good theme, please do a podcast about it.
What?
That was awesome! Do a podcast on Dexter Morgan from Dexter!
Or Tony Soprano?
+EliteWenis Thanks! Will do!
Excellent video but PLEASE DO PETYR BAELISH I BEG OF YOU
Is the most hated villain Darth Vader? Rather the most loved
true
Rhialisse Xavorin, I agree. The rape of Sansa was bad (very bad) and let's not forget that it happened in front of Theon, whom, at this point she believes killed her two younger brothers. However, burning your own daughter at the stake, killing two innocent farm boys (falsely said to be the young Stark boys by Theon), flaying an old lady who let Sansa know that she has friends in the North (candle in the window), and repeatedly stabbing a pregnant woman to death (red wedding) are fundamentally worse.
As a (mostly harmless) sadist i really enjoyed the Ramsay scenes in the show. His mind games are brilliant :D
Long, rambling, disorganised. Instead of attempting to retell both books and TV shows why not deliver on the title promise of psychology of a single character?
+frugalwitch He does after he finishes retelling and getting people caught up.
Its a podcast not a lecture. I expect Discovery channel quality!
Ramsay was cool, but Roose Bolton, he was something! Roose was my favourite character!
So now that we are 4 episodes in to season six, anything new to add? What opinion d you have about Ramsay's reaction towards Miranda's death? (the kennel master's daughter.)
+Bruce Waite After 4 eps, his personality is consistently sadistic. Although, his violence is more for power and less for his own pleasure, seemingly.
Thank you so much for this video!! In a way, it helped me in writing my Anti-social character/s for my comic/novel. He is vile aswel!! Now that I know some of the things that cause this disorder I can write his backround and locate him into an environment better...
No prob. Sounds like an interesting novel!
how much do you charge for therapy?
Currently, 140 per session.
Ok, another thing, Mance wasn't even there when Theon and Jeyne escape, I mean... at most the spearwives helped but Theon was the one to do the work in the end, he got them into the room, he kept Jeyne calm (while the spearwives were calling her a bitch or something) so it's more like, Theon rescued Jeyne and himself, Mance had very little to do with it if you ask me? Anyways, back to listening...
make one of Roose Bolton:)
What do you think about Ramsey's "just reward" after season 6 came out?
Felt somewhat satisfying. You?
I felt it was fitting, and I was glad Sansa enjoyed herself haha
Ok, I really like your analysis of Ramsay, and tbh, I don't think it has to be one of the hypotheses that you suggested, I think it's a combination of most or even all of them. The only thing I think there's really nothing solid on is the situation with his mother. Because I don't think we have any way of knowing how she responded to Ramsay, your hypothesis on that is solid and logical but I think it would be just as logical that she clung to him and wanted her son in Roose' castle to make herself feel better? I think there's no way of knowing how she responded to Ramsay, and I really want to know more about that so I can properly analyse it.
What would Ramsay have been like in Joffreys position.
Amazing work, wold you upload it on Soundcloud?
Thanks! Will try.
Thank you for this podcast!
Really. I don't hate Ramsay. But I don't do this because I like him having power. He's a far more complex character than most fans/readers think. That's why I like him.
(I like all characters. I find it difficult to hate fictional characters.)
I read the books and watch the show.
I think you're doing the right thing - analyzing him in a psychological way. IMO, Ramsay is a high functioning sociopath.
I have experience in psychology, and I worked with sociopaths. If you want to, you can drop me a PM over here. I'd like to get in touch with you, I guess.
And gaming isn't bad. D&D (Dungeons & Dragons) is great! Long live the 3.5 edition.
P. S.: Would you also do a podcast on Theon, too? I'd like that.
Great podcast!
:)
Thanks, Kura!
as soon as season 7 of the walking dead comes, please do negan.
could you make a video of black jack randall from outlander?
New guy on your channel here, cool analysis!
Thanks, Jewbear!
People miss the point with the Sansa-rape-topic. It's not about showing or choosing a rape scene. It is about making a wrong decision - basically sacrificing this character's integrity - for convenience (and stepping over heavy issues like rape by saying words like "made an informed choice" and "is an empowered woman" - quote D&D). Who in their right mind would let a character who is obviously one of the main and good protagonists and who went through hell for 4 seasons be convinced by about 5 sentences (from Littlefinger) to marry the guy/family, who killed her brother and mother? How LOGICAL is that? And for what? Because they needed a stand-in for the Jane-character from the books to free Reek/Theon. Empowerment my ass! This character was butchered for a more convenient storyline. So this is bad, lazy writing, which offends anyone who knows how character development should work in stories, especially in such huge productions - and this has nothing to do with the books. They could have let her be raped or whatever if IT MADE SENSE, but it did not. It became a rape/sexscene/women-issue the moment D&D opened their mouths and spit out the most stupid sentences ever - in combination with the meaningless rape of a protagonist, it is just ridiculous. How can anyone present such a scene, with no logic to it, and talk about empowerment??? They should have kept their mouths shut. Oh, and don't forget the so "tasteful" name of the episode (Unbent, Unbroken)... I mean, common, is this a 10 Million/episode production or school cinema? (just keep rolling my eyes)
Takemysenf what else could have happened that night? Really think about the kind of person Ramsay has consistently been portrayed as. He sees everyone as only tools for him to get what he wants. If he did literally anything else, it would have been out of character.
I believe that LF was falsely hoping that Sansa could handle herself and seriously take revenge for her family on her own, or at least hang around until he comes to save her with the knights of the Vale and look like the hero. Now that I think about it, it legit doesn't make a lot of sense... you're right. LF is smarter than that... it's a weird choice by the writers... xD
47:00 It´s not necessary, that 11 or 14 means, that they are children - they could have a different duration of years than we have in our world
wow i learned so much random info from this. haha i loved it tho
Thanks!
hes alot more likable in the show, hes terrible but hes attractive and seems to have a sense of messed up humor. The book is different, we "like" him as we like serial killers and horrible things. It's interesting to see how far the rabbit hole goes with the darkness of humans. The inferno is much more popular then the rest of the divine comedy. etc etc etc
I think George as a little soft spot for short, young-looking blonde dragon women. She's the only one who has happy endings. Well, as far as things working out for her. I wonder who she was in his life to have such a successful stride in the books?
you never know hey, two books to go
I saw in an interview where RR Martin said he relates to daenerys a lot... So she is martin in real life I guess lol
i like this guy! SUBSCRIBED