20 years for me as a sawyer for Wildfire and 5years as a Climbing Arborists . I would absolutely agree with you and question how either of those two have actually stayed alive as long as they clearly have. Must have more lives and huge percentage less capacity of logical thinking than I have being that I would say if my new hire groundie tired to climb a tree high enough to move a rope down proves that he has not enough brains for anything regarding chainsaw work and I don't even want to get started on the special person that was behind the saw as to he was the one in charge of that three ring circus that very easily could have killed them both.
Ive made mistakes falling trees butttttt…… lol. Ive certainly done things and said, “lets not do that again”…. Buttttt…. Lol. Certainly takes the cake but desperate times call for desperate measures so lets hope there is a back story that led to this circus haha…
When your saw gets pinched in the cut while falling…. Just remove your bar nuts and take the powerhead off the bar…. That way the worst thing that can happen is you bend a bar and it cost 70 bucks instead of 600 or more.
Yup. I pinched my bar in a tree a week ago, and there was no room for a wedge. So I pulled the powerhead off first. Then used a tie and a come along to straighten the tree. Got my bar and chain free undamaged.
Hey man, you could've kept this fail to yourself and taught others nothing, but you shared your mistake with the world so others could learn from it. That takes guts and character--I hope your future felling adventures go a bit more smoothly than this one. Everybody walked away and some lessons were learned--life wasn't as harsh a teacher as she could've been on this one.
Yeah, he’d have been easy to find had the tree fell on him. Good Lord Almighty, some people should have to take mandatory training before allowed to touch a saw.
It did come down. Sometimes hangers happen to the best of us. What you had there was a lightweight dead tree that was tangled up in a healthy tree, and when that happens it becomes a struggle to avoid the widow maker. I've been cutting trees every spring and fall for almost 40 years. You all walked away and got her done. So Kudos.
Seriously. Was it pro grade? No. A fail? Hardly. They got it done and no one got hurt, except maybe the guide bar on that first saw. And probably learned some lessons for next time.
@@Whatsittoy Oh, ok. Next time begin your comment by saying "Agreed." That would help avoid confusion. I'll delete my comment....ok buddy ole pal? We still good?
@@johnspartan98My mistake. I thought "Seriously" in this context was the same as "Agreed." You ended with "You all walked away and got her done. So Kudos." I said "Seriously." because it was ridiculous seeing all the negative comments and I liked your statement regarding what was important to take away from this. Like you said, instead of bashing the guy we should note that he walked away safely from a dangerous dead tree and didn't leave it hanging. But I guess it didn't mean the same to you. Sorry for the confusion.
He probably mentions it because he doesn't want to mistaken for an American, then if his comments were not so bright people would say," something that stupid is common in America, we get it." Lol
Dry dead trees can be unpredictable. The fibers don't bend like in a green tree. You saw that right away, and then it came back and pinched your saw. The mistake here was not getting wedges in early as soon as you get a chance put that wedge in when you have an inch of space. It has saved me a lot of grief. And believe me I have done just what you have done enough times in different scenarios to respect this video. Thank you brother
The angles he cut were all wrong and noone whose spent enough time cutting trees seems to realise. And putting the saw in one side not evenly thru the back is EXACTLY why the saw got pinched. I only had that happen once in my learning curve and I was trying to cut a 30 inch thick tree with a 12 inch bar.
after the first back cut he did if he would have just wedged it over it probly would have went but he got greedy and tried to cut more and he cut through the hinge on one side and it pinched his saw. which will happen basically anytime you cut through the side of your hinge wood like that. this is a classic exsample of someone watching abunch of youtube videos on how to fell trees but has very little real life experience actually doing it. everyone thinks its way easier then it is until they try it. when i first started i was like this should be easy. boy was i wrong.
don't think it "set back" on the saw, I think he cut completely though to the notch. That's a very unstable tree at that point, very dangerous to go get another saw and start cutting on the tree and then climb the tree.
the top part of the tree was tangled up well in the other trees, that seemed to be the crux of the problem. It only pinched his saw after he cut entirely through the tree which he wouldn't have had to have done had the tree not been blocked from falling over by the other trees above.
Good to see comments of support for this guy. Absolutely no point being too negative. Landowner to fellow landowner: 1. Whichever direction it ended up falling no danger to structures etc. So no harm in having a go for experience etc better for him in the long run. 2. Hangers are bastards and you learn to be over defensive expecting them. I cut in bush that you can hardly wheel a barrow thru its so timbered. Get a throw line (and throwbag launcher even) and get a rope up there before you even start if required. If I cant pull with a vehicle I use a Masdam type rope come along to pull. 3. If pinched disconnect powerhead from jammed bar and chain. 4. Wear helmet in case of falling crown limbs. They come out of nowhere. 5. Face and back cuts, hinges, wedges is a science. We just have to learn and stay safe.
I once got knocked off the top of a 40 footer by a branch swinging back unexpectedly & smacking my head, fortunately I was properly harnessed & had a hard hat on.
Thanks for sharing you experience, which most of us have had in our own woodcutting experience at one time or another. But that’s how we learn. Clearing your space as you did is always wise. I once failed to move a one inch stick that tripped me as I ran for cover. The tree fell properly but a 3” limb landed next to me where I had fallen. Indeed, making a pathway is always good. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@@Philobiblion unkind comments aren’t nice at all, considering that we all hopefully learn from our mistakes and experiences. I’d be willing to bet that most everyone who were negative made mistakes as well. So keep on keepin on Brother! And Thanks again for sharing your experience. We may never know but it may well have helped someone avoid a worse mistake, like me for example. A Fine Sumner to You and your Family! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@@Philobiblion Yes I'm sure many have made all of these mistakes at one time or another... but to document them all on the same tree is a feat in and of itself!
This was definitely a challenging tree to fall, with its position between, tied up in trees that were not wanted to remove. I admire that despite all the challenges the tree was felled with minimal damage to the trees wanted to be kept. The only thing I saw during the sawing was the angled cut should have been made first to keep that pinching from happening, and the teeth on those chainsaws were definitely in need of a sharpening before this job.
We’ve all had a bad day where we thought we had things figured out. None of us are perfect. As long as no one was hurt and lessons were learned, then everyone goes home safe and humble.
Seriously, many folks wouldn't have attempted what you did, let alone shared it on the internet. Thank you for showing this, so hopefully others can avoid risky fells/trees, and/or look for guidance/assistance with problem trees. Good job
I love the way he is clearing out tripping hazards before he starts cutting on a dead tree-don't forget to look up for the dead limbs that are heading your way...
Not wrong, I was out cutting in the forest the other day. Had a look up and around for danger in widowmakers, limbs half broke hanging, falls that are hung up, the usual. I'm cutting away under a massive red gum that had lost a limb (half the canopy) and taken an iron bark down with it. Anyway it was while loading I had a better perspective from away from the spot where I saw what was essentially a person sized tree dart hanging by its leaf branches pointing straight down at my cut pile 😮 clean shaft bushy top. The thing even had had a nice sharp point from the break and was lined up beautifully. I lassoed the bottom and was able to pull it down quite easily, when it hit the ground between bucks at the edge of the pile it drove about 4/5 of a foot into dry land. I had missed it somehow looking straight up at it 🤷♂️ it was a lightly windy day with gusts, i was cutting alone. Be carefull out there guys and girls👍
In my test we had to hang up a tree,my 1 had storm damage and had no crown, the 2 leaders went either side of the trunk,even after taking it of the stump & no luck trying to roll it,I had to do a drag back as the only solution, examiner stood watching, and when it was down,he said that was a bugger ah,!! Good job he said, that was 15 years ago
I started from scratch when I was about 35, bought my first chainsaw and some books on how to fell trees etc. Then I did a proper chainsaw course, luckily along the way I took my time, then I started working with the local council and worked with some professionals, I was learning all the time and now I feel reasonably confident. At 78 I need to take my time and think things through, this video was brilliant, couldn't see why the bloke did aim the through through the gap to the right of the tree he got hung up in!! maybe he didn't know how to aim the tree, he certainly took out a huge sink!! Maybe a short introduction on the use of wedges would have helped!! Fine entertainment all the same, thanks.
True . I always make sure I have many escape routes and I also take two saws full of fuel and oil before I drop a tree. I have cut many 1000s of trees most go exactly where I plan on dropping them but some not so good. Other trees or dang grape vines I couldn't see can ruin a good tree fall. Always have a hard hat and someone watching for problems.
@@davidgardner3640 well he knew the direction it was going to go but I don't think there was any way he could have known it was going to snag bad enough to hold it in place. Every once in a while you get a bastard tree like that
Thank you for sharing your misadventure. The thing that caught my attention was besides the obvious face cut was the tossing of a hot saw into the super dry leaves. I have caught myself setting my saw down in dry grass but after the East Troublesome fire a few years back we on the crew have all gotten much more aware of where we set our saws. Above all cutting dead and dry trees suck. They are incredibly unpredictable.
To be fair, many areas do not have a fire danger for most of the year. In my area, even if I did light the leaves on fire, I would have more than enough time to get the hose out, hook it up, and put it out before it did any damage. I realize in some areas it goes from a spark to an out of control wild fire in minutes, but that doesn't happen everywhere.
His wedge cut went too fair into the trunk, and he didn't do his felling cut high enough above his wedge, and it was at too flat an angle too, to my mind.
Something like this happened to me one time. The tree was only about half the size of this one so I was able to lift it off the stump but the trees branches were so tangled up in the branches of the tree beside it, the stupid thing wound up hovering about 2 feet off the ground beside it's own stump! I took pictures of it because I didn't think anybody would have believed me otherwise.
Kind of like a limby 14 in. dead oak I felled that was tangled up in overhead pine limbs. I got TWO saws stuck in it and cut them out with the third. Then I chunked and limbed it from the bottom, and still had to pull down on it.
That tree looked like it was bound to get hung up. At 2:40 you can see the tree had a very small area to fall through. He missed it but he got the tree down, nobody got hurt and there was no property damage. Good job!
Yup. The only real issue here was the entangled tree at the top that prevented a clean fall. It was "just" a dead tree but with its location, it was never going to be an easy drop. I think it would have been best to tie off and pull like they did from the beginning, to help ensure a cleaner drop and no pressure on his saw, either. Like you said, the tree is down, no damage to anyone and no one got hurt: that's a win every day of the week.
Im a couple of years in to learn tree felling and chainsaw work. Im using youtube and people around me that are more skilled than I am. I really like and appreciate the comment section in videos like this. People give advice, share concern about taking safety serious, show humbleness and support to each other. Best regards from Norway
the most dangerous home owner power tool on earth doing one of the most dangerous home owner task on earth, so much can go wrong but Im glad yall got it with no injuries. Im no arborist but ive cut several dangerous trees and never enjoyed any of it whew!! Kudos to tree service guys they are worth their salt for sure.
Good on you for posting the vid. Someone else said this earlier in the comments and I agree with their advice which was take the top first, which stops a lot of the tangles. Cutting the top, however, would mean bucket cutting or climbing and I understand not everyone can do that or afford to pay for it. In the end you and your mate got it done and you probably learned a few things along the way. cheers for the vid
The tree was fine to drop as it stood. Had he followed through with the back cut it would’ve been fine. He got scared when the tree started to drop, backed away and then didn’t know what to do.
I made a rope saw from a survival firewood diamond infused wire. Broke it and then discovered that rope saws are a thing. If you live on forested land, please buy a rope saw and 200 feet of static rope.
Nah he wanted it to fall down in the wrong direction, i mean he cut the wedge od the side where the other tree is when there is plenty of space slightly to the right.
Seems like he forgot to study the intended fall before he commenced. Those branches were almost interlocked. He had many trees around to anchor a winch on and steer for a more open area. However, since he wasn't ashamed to post his fail, he probably intends to learn. 👍🍻
I love how he spent so much time clearing all the debris from around the tree then proceeds to cut the tree with no chaps,no hard hat and no common sense.
@@chadanderson2798Why did our homeboy Jesus have to die for our sins? Was there no other option avaliable at the time? God killing his son because of things other people did is somehow a good thing? 😂
Good on you for sharing this failure mate - none of us are perfect. Glad everyone was unharmed. It was a tough job from the beginning for an amateur. Easy to say climb & buck from the top but takes skill or money. Good to see the recovery technique by your neighbour.
Wonder what the odds are of two 'commenters' commenting 3 months apart but both starting their comment with the exact words, "Good on you"? Just thinking . . .
As a tree professional I'm just in awe about Captain Rainbow's tree felling technique. He's the reason why some people shouldn't be allowed near a chainsaw .He's lucky to be alive. Smh 😬
What shocks me is the PILES of people saying he done everything right and it was just a hanger. He had no comprehension of basic physics of how weight shifts in a tree. Or the proper angle to cut like the chainsaw manual will tell you
I was thinking this should be used as evidence to take away his drivers license long before the truck got involved in this video. Some people lack basic awareness of simple reality and are a great danger to others.
The fact that you never heard of it only tells me that most likely the pride prevented them telling. Everybody makes mistakes. Just a real man admits to them.
Holy crap, super entertaining These two need their own channel I could literally watch that train wreck all day That tree stole my saw. I had to go get another one
Dude! you were lucky! I suggest buying G.F.Beraneks book - The Fundamentals of General Treework. It may save your life :) The main issue here is the dutchman you left in the face cut. That is what stopped the movement (and of course the tips)...what you did could've worked out much worse for you. Also look into the proper method for removing hung up trees....climbing up the trunk to move the rope you put in the wrong place is probably NOT a good idea. Your friend may not last too long taking risks like that. Anyway glad you got it down without injury.
A real friend woulda shimmied up that tree 12 feet and made another cut..🤣🤣 Some of us are taught or learned from our mistakes the hard way.. You coulda sheared the stump off with c4 and that tree would still be stuck in the top.. Glad they got it done with all their digits intact.. 🍺🍺
Hire an Arborist. But if you refuse to go that route… 1. Don’t cut through your hinge.. ever. If you don’t know where the tip of your bar is, then stop cutting. 2. You can’t fell a tree that’s tangled up in another tree without felling both, or putting a rope in it, that’s physics, you won’t win.
Every once in a while, a little screw up can get you back on track to doing things better. Seemed when I first started I needed 2 saws to fell one tree quite frequently. As we all should know, every stump tells a story of what went right and or wrong. We learn and move on. As long as nothing gets destroyed or anyone hurt, it's just another tree down.
Hey…they got it down. He had it aimed toward the house-so I thought it was going to end very very badly. Part that made me laugh the most was him overdoing it on clearing the area of teeny tiny sticks before cutting. A safe flight path is right thing to do…but that was hilarious 😂
Any old-time logger can tell you stories of having to knock one 'stuck' tree down with another, sometimes taking a whole bunch of other trees to eventually get the mess on the ground. It's always a harrowing experience for them.
4:04 Pretty risky, climbing a dead tree that's already been sawn off its stump and is caught up on other trees. It could easily have twisted and/or fallen.
Textbook execution of the " Thompson" two saw cut. When done correctly you sacrifice your $300 Stihl, by means of crushing, for the $80 poulan you were forced to borrow or buy from Walmart. Master class. The upsidedown face cut was just showing off.
I would agree that everyone of us has had a bad day. The guy did just fine. I have fell alot of trees. And I have also got them hung up in branches from other trees. It's a pain in the ass for sure. Given no trees were in his path it would of been a perfect felling job. Hats off to you good job.
Exactly. If you are just cutting firewood you can't afford to hire a pro or a boom truck. We are just farmers so on the sketchy ones we just substitute horsepower for climbing/rigging. Lean it into the others then hook a long cable and a big tractor around the base and pull. It works better if the tree is still on the stump.
So I read the comments from the professional loggers and arborists, a few of which actually mentioned the specific things this guy did wrong or didn't do. Such as taking down some adjacent trees to make room, and climbing up the tree and taking it down in pieces rather than one shot. Well, this guy managed to get the job done without having to go through all that extra work, he didn't get hurt, and he saved himself a couple thousand dollars to boot. Doesn't seem like a fail to me at all.
I agree it doesn't really constitute a "fail". The fact that it wasn't doesn't really make it smart / a good decision though. For starters you say he did it without "all that extra work", I guarantee it would have gone a lot faster if done correctly. Secondly it would not have cost "thousands of dollars" to get taken down professionally.
Conventional wedge was way too deep lol, I personally use humbolt wedges but you only gotta go in about maybe 4 or 5 inches for that size tree but it’s hard to tell on video the actual size of it
Humbolt cuts are mainly used on hillsides to slow the tree down when it’s separated from the base also maximizes the board feet of the first log when milling.
@@jeremyscott6641 humbolt wedges are also the safest and most accurate wedge you can trust. I’ll do conventional wedges if I’m dropping a huge oak tree, I’ll take it right down to the ground where I’ll draw my cut because that’s all fire wood but conventionals can be unpredictable when felling of the tree has a crappy lean or wind interference. I like my humbolt. Just the safest method and works for me. Just personal preference I guess
A chainsaw is one of those tools that you really need instruction and or mentorship from someone who really knows operation and safety. ” my daddy did it this way, his daddy did it this way…..” does not cut it with chainsaws. There’s physics, science and all the properties of reactive forces that are best schooled unknowns. Even with experience, training and safety equipment which should be standard, things can still happen. Please be safe and get training from someone who is experienced and don’t ever compromise any of the safety equipment. Thank God I have been trained by one of the worlds most foremost chainsaw experts, Tim Ard of Forest applications. Thank God you’re OK, please get some training
Fair play - you had a nightmare, but you still showed it which helps others learn, thank you for doing that. I'm no expert with a chainsaw, I only take down small trees myself and would bring in a pro for something that big.
@@Jmashley73you're an arrogant schmuck if that's what you honestly think. He did a few things wrong for sure. But nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. Yes, even you.
My observations: Having noticed all of the other trees creating an entanglement issue. You should have determined the path of least resistance for it to fall. Put the ratchet strap, wedge or whatever force used to persuade falling that way, and cut your front V notch that direction with hinge cut in the back. Watching the video, you didn’t cut your rear cut enough below the front cut for a hinge anyways.
L'abbatage d'un arbre c est pas si simple. Cela doit être effectué en totale sécurité et après avoir bien étudié l' aspect de l'arbre. Sa hauteur, son envergure voir sa couronne son inclinaison, la rotation ou le retour lors de la chute et la zone d' écrasement et surtout l'environnement proche qui peut rendre vraiment difficile l'ouvrage. Tout le monde peut tronçonner mais abattre sérieusement et en toute sécurité c est autre chose. Ça s'apprend avant tout...
I am by no means an expert here, but have fell my fair share. I have been in his shoes a few times too. I didn't get my bar hung, but have had some hangers. It is good to look at where your falling it, but also look up at the canopy as well. That tree had several large branches from another healthy tree that captured its fall. Its all about reading the tree and the trees around it. Thats a very dangerous situation to be in. I have been there before too.
anyone who has actually went through the proccess of learning how to fell trees has deffinatly been in a similar situation as this guy. everyone thinks its so easy cause they watch abunch of youtube videos but its not. didnt help that the dudes saw was about as dull as it could get lol. sharp chain is a safe chain dull chain is asking for problems or to get hurt
@swere1240, exactly! As one that has taken a saw to the knee, (my fault, walked up behind someone), The doc said that it was a great thing the saw was sharp, or I would’ve lost my leg. I now have cool battle scars! 👍🤣
I mean, yeah, that was a rough one to watch. Not sure what those side cuts were meant to accomplish. Glad he got it safely on the ground. Would definitely benefit from reading Jepson's "How to fell a tree". That said, for all of the keyboard warriors out there pretending like they've never looked up at a snagged tree and thought, "well shoot", then I question your honesty. We've all been there. Maybe not quite to this extent or with this many errors, but this is how you learn what you don't know. Hopefully the guy gets some inspiration to get some formal training.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never had a tree hang up. Never had a tree rock back. (eyes looking away and rolling) I am an expert (cough. Cough)
One thing I learned in my 15 years of professional tree work is that: anyone who's distant cousin ever owned a chainsaw automatically knows all there is to know about cutting trees down. It's the strangest phenomena I've ever encountered; people won't hesitate to call a plumber to change out a bathroom faucet, but they'll argue how to cut down a tree with someone who does tree work every day.
You don't have to be a professional, just don't be an idiot. I've used chainsaws for a very long time, never been "professionally trained", never fucked up anything. But I've also told more than a few people that no, I won't cut down that tree that's leaning over your house. Call someone with the proper equipment AND insurance.
@Richard Sullivan probably made in the same sweat shop in China , my thought is if your backup plan is an extremely homeowner grade chainsaw then you probably don't have enough experience to get in a situation where you might need a backup plan...But that being said successful people tell the most boring stories... I did a thing, it worked out. How lame is that ?!
Jeeze, Northern NH Hampshire here. Your backside cut is to low, yup pinched. happy to see the safety vest in the woods. When one has to use 2 saws to fell a small tree, they have no business running a saw. Now we have it roped up. Hey, buy your firewood or call a tree service.
I Had my saw stuck in the exact same situation, though when the tree started to lean the saw swung 180 degrees to the side the tree was falling then dropped to the ground, the tree then jumped off of the stump and landed right on top of my 6-month-old MS 290 and drove it about a foot into the ground.😯😳😞 What stopped it from going deeper was a big rock under the saw.... A very expensive lesson to learn.😭
@Dale Fry my dad and I turned his bar into an S one morning with a 14" dead hickory. If the power head had still been on, the but of the tree would have landed directly on it. It's one reason that all of my bars will run on all of my saws.
I was doing handyman jobs as a side gig. A renter reported a tree that was leaning over in the back yard, I was asked to take a look at it. The tree was starting to uproot, and was essentially held up by the power line running from the utility pole to the house. I let the agent know I didn't have the equipment to handle the tree while protecting the power line. A week later she calls me back, the power company came and disconnected the wire, moved it to the other side of the tree, and re-connected the power, so can I go back and cut down the tree. What ensued was very similar to this scenario, with the tree finally coming down and a branch smacking and bending the top rail on a chain link fence. Too bad I didn't have a Go-Pro!
In a dense forest it is common. In our timber if we had this scenario (which we have) we cut it off, then hook a hefty 50' cable around the trunk and pull it off the stump with a 150 hp tractor. Sometimes with hollow or rotting trunks we cut them partway through and throw the cable around it then snap them off. There is not much danger. The only time I ever got hurt was when a tree fell and shot a broken branch 25 feet, hitting me in the knee. That was sore for a long time. I am 71 now and too old to cut trees but I always enjoyed it.
I’ve had a couple of bad fells before. Had a tree fall the wrong way once so I feel as long as no one got hurt that’s the important part. Felling trees isn’t easy. I’m glad they didn’t resort to dangerous tactics to get it down that’s when things get spicy.
I was out cutting in the forest the other day. Had a look up and around for danger in widowmakers, limbs half broke hanging, falls that are hung up, the usual. I'm cutting away under a massive red gum that had lost a limb (half the canopy) and taken an iron bark down with it. Anyway it was while loading I had a better perspective from away from the spot where I saw what was essentially a person sized tree dart hanging by its leaf branches pointing straight down at my cut pile 😮 clean shaft bushy top. The thing even had had a nice sharp point from the break and was lined up beautifully. I lassoed the bottom and was able to pull it down quite easily, when it hit the ground between bucks at the edge of the pile it drove about 4/5 of a foot into dry land. I had missed it somehow looking straight up at it 🤷♂️ it was a lightly windy day with gusts, i was cutting alone. Be carefull out there guys and girls👍sh .it happens.
Oh man, never and i mean *NEVER* cut trees when it's windy, even a little wind is a problem and don't go alone, if you get hurt who will take you to the hospital? My dad knows his stuff and even he cut his leg once pretty bad, if i wasn't there he would have bled out.
@@TheDennys21 sometimes wind and rain won't wait until you have your rent or food money. The luxury of time is not always available. Not picking just saying. Dads lucky mate, back belt and leather chaps is all I have atm so no cuts but yeah he's lucky.
No other way to do it. No pro is going to climb that rotten tree to rig it and can't get a boom truck in there. The only thing I would have done differently is to pull it at the first lean. And not with a pickup but with a 15,000 lb. tractor ( I'm a farmer) on a long cable. But this came out fine.
This is not a fail, it's more of a things didn't go as planned kind of situation. I mean shit happens, my grandpa was a lumberjack and even he made mistakes sometimes, that's life.
If grandpa was a lumberjack it shows he was good. Like the old saw, pun intended, "there are old lumberjacks and there are bold lumberjacks, but there are no old, bold lumberjacks!"
Actually, it is one of the first things a person should do- secure a path of escape/egress BEFORE cutting and the tree starts falling. After that it was a clusterfck.
I was a tree faller for many years, this guy is playing with twigs because he's nervous. I don't think he has very much experience. This is a extremely dangerous profession and everyone that does it will get hurt and possibly killed. This guy should have got someone with experience to guide him.
That was a nail biter to watch. I'm sure being there in person was much more stressful. I'm glad you guys didn't get hurt. Learn from your mistakes. We all make them. None of us are perfect.
@@edithbannerman4 the bannermans mansion had its munitions exploded. The remains are still there and available for tour on bannerman island. War Profiteers who’s sold arms to the north and south. We Rodgers have a long memory and the name bannerman still leaves a bitter taste.
@@jeffharper7579 Oh man... You said it... Yesterday as a matter of fact... No where near a large tree at all thank god. Nice sunny quiet day. Got my wedge cut and aimed where I want to go. Start making my final cut to drop, dark cloud comes up over the ridge, along with some gusty wind and boom it snaps the hinge the opposite way and clamps my chain bar. To add insult to injury it starts raining... :D Weather can getcha when you least expect it.
@@jeffharper7579 I have never thought of that! Good idea! I usually have 3 saws with me so I can use one to unstick another. They are all of different sizes and weights.
Freestanding trees are scary. I've only had it happen once to me but it was not a good feeling. I was felling this slender spruce tree, there was some branches in the way from a nearby pine but they where all dead so I figured the spruce could just snap them without any issue if it got hung. It turns out those pine branches where way tougher than I thought so the tree got hung, and because it was such a small and slender tree, I could almost get no leverage with my wedges, especially since I messed up like this guy and made the face cut too deep. Though ofc I didn't mess it up this badly, I did a fairly normal 1/3 face cut, but in hindsight, I should have done it as shallow as possible to leave more space for wedges. So I decided to cut out the middle of my hinge and then cut of one of the side posts to allow the tree to roll and thus hopefully roll itself lose. It did not. I tried using wedges again, it tore out the last post holding the tree on the sump. It was now standing freely on the stump. In the end I had to go get the winch to pull it free. It took a lot of effort since I had to take detours to avoid places where the tree could go if it suddenly broke free.
Funny I looked at your TH-cam channel, didn't see any professional tree felling videos at all..... Just a grown man playing with toys..A lot of Thomas train toys . Dude I'd rather ride in this guy's truck if ya don't mind. He might even have an adult beverage. Toys SMH......
In 25 years logging production falling I never once saw so many things wrong in such a short time.
20 years for me as a sawyer for Wildfire and 5years as a Climbing Arborists . I would absolutely agree with you and question how either of those two have actually stayed alive as long as they clearly have. Must have more lives and huge percentage less capacity of logical thinking than I have being that I would say if my new hire groundie tired to climb a tree high enough to move a rope down proves that he has not enough brains for anything regarding chainsaw work and I don't even want to get started on the special person that was behind the saw as to he was the one in charge of that three ring circus that very easily could have killed them both.
Ive made mistakes falling trees butttttt…… lol. Ive certainly done things and said, “lets not do that again”…. Buttttt…. Lol. Certainly takes the cake but desperate times call for desperate measures so lets hope there is a back story that led to this circus haha…
What did they do wrong? Maybe you could help others by explaining
@@jeffreychavey4161 looks like they were successful to me.
@@davidshumski4629 climbing a tree once it has been cut and clear off the stump and only standing due to limbs locked is beyond scetchy
When your saw gets pinched in the cut while falling…. Just remove your bar nuts and take the powerhead off the bar…. That way the worst thing that can happen is you bend a bar and it cost 70 bucks instead of 600 or more.
And always have an extra bar and chain to put on your freed powerhead so you can rescue the pinched bar and chain.
This does not work if your saw has an external clutch like the cheaper husqvarnas do
That’s too easy.
Wow,,I just missed myself laughing 😅
Yup. I pinched my bar in a tree a week ago, and there was no room for a wedge. So I pulled the powerhead off first. Then used a tie and a come along to straighten the tree. Got my bar and chain free undamaged.
Hey man, you could've kept this fail to yourself and taught others nothing, but you shared your mistake with the world so others could learn from it. That takes guts and character--I hope your future felling adventures go a bit more smoothly than this one. Everybody walked away and some lessons were learned--life wasn't as harsh a teacher as she could've been on this one.
You couldn't have said it better this dude is getting a lot of hate but it's a bent bar and lesson learned and no body got hurt
word
Dude get out from behind Computer
@@stevedallas9529get out from in front of tree
Rude
You gotta admit this gentleman did a good job staying visible with the vest and then the tie dye shirt 😂
You got that right, not one squirrel was going to mistake him for a nut.
Yeah, he’d have been easy to find had the tree fell on him.
Good Lord Almighty, some people should have to take mandatory training before allowed to touch a saw.
@@SK-tr9ii What the hell did they call him then?
@@SK-tr9ii Thanks for the laugh, I nearly peed my pants.
His hard hat wasn’t visible. Probably because it wasn’t on his head.
It did come down. Sometimes hangers happen to the best of us. What you had there was a lightweight dead tree that was tangled up in a healthy tree, and when that happens it becomes a struggle to avoid the widow maker. I've been cutting trees every spring and fall for almost 40 years.
You all walked away and got her done. So Kudos.
Seriously. Was it pro grade? No. A fail? Hardly. They got it done and no one got hurt, except maybe the guide bar on that first saw. And probably learned some lessons for next time.
@@Whatsittoy Oh, ok. Next time begin your comment by saying "Agreed." That would help avoid confusion. I'll delete my comment....ok buddy ole pal? We still good?
@@johnspartan98My mistake. I thought "Seriously" in this context was the same as "Agreed." You ended with "You all walked away and got her done. So Kudos." I said "Seriously." because it was ridiculous seeing all the negative comments and I liked your statement regarding what was important to take away from this. Like you said, instead of bashing the guy we should note that he walked away safely from a dangerous dead tree and didn't leave it hanging. But I guess it didn't mean the same to you. Sorry for the confusion.
@@Whatsittoy,
Yup
Norwegian here, thisone was HAARD to watch, but my guy OWNED IT!
Really awesome to upload thisone.
I would never speak of this again.
I salute you🇳🇴
Why do you norwegians always try to infest a comment section with reference to which country you are from? Why is it important to mention?
He probably mentions it because he doesn't want to mistaken for an American, then if his comments were not so bright people would say," something that stupid is common in America, we get it." Lol
@@swedishpsychopath8795 i see the same thing from americans when dealing with anything foreign
When the hi-vis comes off and the tie dye comes out it's serious business.
🤣👍
@Mumwaldee You've won the internet today. Cheers.
After he got the 2nd saw stuck he went and took a couple puffs..🤣🤣
He said, ok time to be even more visible. Scare this tree into falling.
This comment 😂
Dry dead trees can be unpredictable. The fibers don't bend like in a green tree. You saw that right away, and then it came back and pinched your saw. The mistake here was not getting wedges in early as soon as you get a chance put that wedge in when you have an inch of space. It has saved me a lot of grief. And believe me I have done just what you have done enough times in different scenarios to respect this video. Thank you brother
The angles he cut were all wrong and noone whose spent enough time cutting trees seems to realise. And putting the saw in one side not evenly thru the back is EXACTLY why the saw got pinched. I only had that happen once in my learning curve and I was trying to cut a 30 inch thick tree with a 12 inch bar.
The point about wedges is good. For me, a wedge always goes in ASAP, even if it is clearly not going to be needed. It's cheap insurance.
after the first back cut he did if he would have just wedged it over it probly would have went but he got greedy and tried to cut more and he cut through the hinge on one side and it pinched his saw. which will happen basically anytime you cut through the side of your hinge wood like that. this is a classic exsample of someone watching abunch of youtube videos on how to fell trees but has very little real life experience actually doing it. everyone thinks its way easier then it is until they try it. when i first started i was like this should be easy. boy was i wrong.
don't think it "set back" on the saw, I think he cut completely though to the notch. That's a very unstable tree at that point, very dangerous to go get another saw and start cutting on the tree and then climb the tree.
the top part of the tree was tangled up well in the other trees, that seemed to be the crux of the problem. It only pinched his saw after he cut entirely through the tree which he wouldn't have had to have done had the tree not been blocked from falling over by the other trees above.
Good to see comments of support for this guy. Absolutely no point being too negative.
Landowner to fellow landowner:
1. Whichever direction it ended up falling no danger to structures etc. So no harm in having a go for experience etc better for him in the long run.
2. Hangers are bastards and you learn to be over defensive expecting them. I cut in bush that you can hardly wheel a barrow thru its so timbered.
Get a throw line (and throwbag launcher even) and get a rope up there before you even start if required. If I cant pull with a vehicle I use a Masdam type rope come along to pull.
3. If pinched disconnect powerhead from jammed bar and chain.
4. Wear helmet in case of falling crown limbs. They come out of nowhere.
5. Face and back cuts, hinges, wedges is a science. We just have to learn and stay safe.
Dead don't hinge.
@@steven6542 Interesting. The dead oaks on my property do.
My neighbor fell off of a 40’ ladder yesterday while felling a tree. He’s fine, he was only on the first rung. 😅
😆😆😆😆 lol.....that's one I'm going to use (probably overuse)....thanks!
@@nwicconsultants6640 I love my step-ladder...I never knew my real ladder....
Gaylonbi you're so bad! Lmao
I once got knocked off the top of a 40 footer by a branch swinging back unexpectedly & smacking my head, fortunately I was properly harnessed & had a hard hat on.
Tell your neighbor to watch the hours of ladder+tree work fail videos.
It always ends the exact same way.
Appreciate that you showed this alot of guys wouldn't be man enough to show they're mistakes
lol he didn't post it. The camera guy did...notice how he backed off when the saw got stuck?
I wouldn’t fancy being the poor waitress having to write down the meals. Gigantic yuck man
Landed on the wood pile
@@carlamcewen2361 Didn't realize that
Losers have no shame
Thank you for posting the video that took guts. You’re a gentleman for putting this out there.
Thanks for sharing you experience, which most of us have had in our own woodcutting experience at one time or another. But that’s how we learn. Clearing your space as you did is always wise. I once failed to move a one inch stick that tripped me as I ran for cover. The tree fell properly but a 3” limb landed next to me where I had fallen. Indeed, making a pathway is always good. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
That was very nice of you, because most people watching this were thinking unkind thoughts
@@Philobiblion unkind comments aren’t nice at all, considering that we all hopefully learn from our mistakes and experiences. I’d be willing to bet that most everyone who were negative made mistakes as well. So keep on keepin on Brother! And Thanks again for sharing your experience. We may never know but it may well have helped someone avoid a worse mistake, like me for example. A Fine Sumner to You and your Family! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@@Philobiblion Yes I'm sure many have made all of these mistakes at one time or another... but to document them all on the same tree is a feat in and of itself!
This was definitely a challenging tree to fall, with its position between, tied up in trees that were not wanted to remove. I admire that despite all the challenges the tree was felled with minimal damage to the trees wanted to be kept. The only thing I saw during the sawing was the angled cut should have been made first to keep that pinching from happening, and the teeth on those chainsaws were definitely in need of a sharpening before this job.
@@Alongfortheride693YODO!
We’ve all had a bad day where we thought we had things figured out. None of us are perfect. As long as no one was hurt and lessons were learned, then everyone goes home safe and humble.
I know but it's still funny as hell hahahahahahahaha
@@jorgeposadas1192 No denying that. Just glad nobody was filming mine! Lol!
It is only a mater of time thew it
Apparently, you don't do tree work .
@Pèék No argument there.
Seriously, many folks wouldn't have attempted what you did, let alone shared it on the internet. Thank you for showing this, so hopefully others can avoid risky fells/trees, and/or look for guidance/assistance with problem trees. Good job
Umm you do realize this isn't his channel so hes not going to see your comment. It was posted by another person.
@@Heavymetalstonie420He did, and he replied. Learn to TH-cam.
@@thereasoner9454 why the hell would i want to learn to TH-cam 😂😂😂
@@thereasoner9454 is that a life skill i need to learn i need to learn how to TH-cam 😂😂😂 wtf 😂😂
I love the way he is clearing out tripping hazards before he starts cutting on a dead tree-don't forget to look up for the dead limbs that are heading your way...
Yeah he left the saw running and set it on the ground. I thought the saw was gonna take off and chase the fat guy.
@@robertgardner-x7y Tree: Arrggh , you won't take me down without a fight....
Maybe wear a helmet too??!
Thank you for putting this one up. It is good to learn from our mistakes. Hung up trees can be very dangerous!
Not wrong, I was out cutting in the forest the other day. Had a look up and around for danger in widowmakers, limbs half broke hanging, falls that are hung up, the usual. I'm cutting away under a massive red gum that had lost a limb (half the canopy) and taken an iron bark down with it. Anyway it was while loading I had a better perspective from away from the spot where I saw what was essentially a person sized tree dart hanging by its leaf branches pointing straight down at my cut pile 😮 clean shaft bushy top.
The thing even had had a nice sharp point from the break and was lined up beautifully. I lassoed the bottom and was able to pull it down quite easily, when it hit the ground between bucks at the edge of the pile it drove about 4/5 of a foot into dry land.
I had missed it somehow looking straight up at it 🤷♂️ it was a lightly windy day with gusts, i was cutting alone.
Be carefull out there guys and girls👍
A seasoned logger could see a hang up potential immediately
@@bjorker40 a seasoned logger sounds like an arrogant spud, people have bad days. People make mistakes🤷♂️
@@standardaussie ok spud
In my test we had to hang up a tree,my 1 had storm damage and had no crown, the 2 leaders went either side of the trunk,even after taking it of the stump & no luck trying to roll it,I had to do a drag back as the only solution, examiner stood watching, and when it was down,he said that was a bugger ah,!! Good job he said, that was 15 years ago
When it fell off the stump and stood standing at 3:40, I lost it! 🤣
I started from scratch when I was about 35, bought my first chainsaw and some books on how to fell trees etc. Then I did a proper chainsaw course, luckily along the way I took my time, then I started working with the local council and worked with some professionals, I was learning all the time and now I feel reasonably confident. At 78 I need to take my time and think things through, this video was brilliant, couldn't see why the bloke did aim the through through the gap to the right of the tree he got hung up in!! maybe he didn't know how to aim the tree, he certainly took out a huge sink!! Maybe a short introduction on the use of wedges would have helped!! Fine entertainment all the same, thanks.
Gotta hand it to you, I am younger than you but quit cutting when I was 68. Just too slow and clumsy in the brush.
I am still an idiot with a chainsaw, but this guy makes me look like a well seasoned logger.
That’s a good one. I fell timber for over 20 years and saw a few that had no business in the woods! 🙏🙏👍💪
@@craigwhittingslow9689they don’t last long
His real job is cutting ham, salame, prosciutto at a local deli shop. He figured he could cut a tree, what's so hard about it? LOL
tooo FUNNNNY
I would Never EVER Post this video..... EVER, All thou ITS FUNNY...
At least he allowed the video to be shown, which may help others.
??something like do as I say not as I do comes to mind😵.
@@jeffharper7579everything he did was according to the professional procedure. It got hung up in the top branches
True . I always make sure I have many escape routes and I also take two saws full of fuel and oil before I drop a tree. I have cut many 1000s of trees most go exactly where I plan on dropping them but some not so good. Other trees or dang grape vines I couldn't see can ruin a good tree fall. Always have a hard hat and someone watching for problems.
@@danthompson5797 with the exception of determining where the top would go when he cut the base.
@@davidgardner3640 well he knew the direction it was going to go but I don't think there was any way he could have known it was going to snag bad enough to hold it in place. Every once in a while you get a bastard tree like that
Thank you for sharing your misadventure. The thing that caught my attention was besides the obvious face cut was the tossing of a hot saw into the super dry leaves. I have caught myself setting my saw down in dry grass but after the East Troublesome fire a few years back we on the crew have all gotten much more aware of where we set our saws. Above all cutting dead and dry trees suck. They are incredibly unpredictable.
To be fair, many areas do not have a fire danger for most of the year. In my area, even if I did light the leaves on fire, I would have more than enough time to get the hose out, hook it up, and put it out before it did any damage. I realize in some areas it goes from a spark to an out of control wild fire in minutes, but that doesn't happen everywhere.
His wedge cut went too fair into the trunk, and he didn't do his felling cut high enough above his wedge, and it was at too flat an angle too, to my mind.
Perfect! Exactly how they planned it. This should be the example of how to safely fell a tree!!! Bravo!!!!👏
Terry
The tree walking out of the woods straight up was hilarious!😂
Something like this happened to me one time. The tree was only about half the size of this one so I was able to lift it off the stump but the trees branches were so tangled up in the branches of the tree beside it, the stupid thing wound up hovering about 2 feet off the ground beside it's own stump! I took pictures of it because I didn't think anybody would have believed me otherwise.
Kind of like a limby 14 in. dead oak I felled that was tangled up in overhead pine limbs. I got TWO saws stuck in it and cut them out with the third. Then I chunked and limbed it from the bottom, and still had to pull down on it.
4:50 "I told you I know what I'm doing"😂
Nah he said "nothing damaged... 'cept the chainsaw."
That tree looked like it was bound to get hung up. At 2:40 you can see the tree had a very small area to fall through. He missed it but he got the tree down, nobody got hurt and there was no property damage. Good job!
Yup. The only real issue here was the entangled tree at the top that prevented a clean fall. It was "just" a dead tree but with its location, it was never going to be an easy drop. I think it would have been best to tie off and pull like they did from the beginning, to help ensure a cleaner drop and no pressure on his saw, either. Like you said, the tree is down, no damage to anyone and no one got hurt: that's a win every day of the week.
Except the ground squirrel next to the stump that the tree jumped on.😂
Im a couple of years in to learn tree felling and chainsaw work. Im using youtube and people around me that are more skilled than I am. I really like and appreciate the comment section in videos like this. People give advice, share concern about taking safety serious, show humbleness and support to each other. Best regards from Norway
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
the most dangerous home owner power tool on earth doing one of the most dangerous home owner task on earth, so much can go wrong but Im glad yall got it with no injuries. Im no arborist but ive cut several dangerous trees and never enjoyed any of it whew!! Kudos to tree service guys they are worth their salt for sure.
Good on you for posting the vid. Someone else said this earlier in the comments and I agree with their advice which was take the top first, which stops a lot of the tangles. Cutting the top, however, would mean bucket cutting or climbing and I understand not everyone can do that or afford to pay for it. In the end you and your mate got it done and you probably learned a few things along the way. cheers for the vid
never climb a dead tree....ever
Well, that guy wasn't climbing any tree...dead or alive.
The tree was fine to drop as it stood. Had he followed through with the back cut it would’ve been fine. He got scared when the tree started to drop, backed away and then didn’t know what to do.
I made a rope saw from a survival firewood diamond infused wire. Broke it and then discovered that rope saws are a thing. If you live on forested land, please buy a rope saw and 200 feet of static rope.
Wow! He picked the only tree in the forest that was anti-gravity.
😂😂😂
Dead trees have less weight in them
Nah he wanted it to fall down in the wrong direction, i mean he cut the wedge od the side where the other tree is when there is plenty of space slightly to the right.
The stars and moons where not aligned with the sun out!
The sound of the speeded up chain saw motor reminded me of a root canal. Glad you didn't get killed.
Seems like he forgot to study the intended fall before he commenced. Those branches were almost interlocked. He had many trees around to anchor a winch on and steer for a more open area. However, since he wasn't ashamed to post his fail, he probably intends to learn. 👍🍻
Betcha ten bucks this guy doesn't see where he did ANYTHING wrong.....
I love how he spent so much time clearing all the debris from around the tree then proceeds to cut the tree with no chaps,no hard hat and no common sense.
He was making exit routes.
I also love the fact that you can see the bark is falling off this tree but he still precedes to look at the notch from the front side of the tree
Saftey vest and goggles It's all ya need
All that is missing are the safety crocks😆😆😆.
What should one have done in first place?Tree is trapped by neighbor tree branches.
Jesus Christ. Loved the suicidal climb up at the end 🫣
Whats Jesus Christ got to do with it? Slander someone elses name and leave the name of the man who died for your sins out of it!
@@chadanderson2798Why did our homeboy Jesus have to die for our sins? Was there no other option avaliable at the time? God killing his son because of things other people did is somehow a good thing? 😂
This video had me in tears laughing. Thank you sir.
Good on you for sharing this failure mate - none of us are perfect. Glad everyone was unharmed. It was a tough job from the beginning for an amateur. Easy to say climb & buck from the top but takes skill or money. Good to see the recovery technique by your neighbour.
Wonder what the odds are of two 'commenters' commenting 3 months apart but both starting their comment with the exact words, "Good on you"? Just thinking . . .
That fat guy climbing and bucking the top would make the tree fall down without even cutting it lmao😮
@@___HH___You think too much.
@@THEFlea1991 You don't think enough.
The major fail here was that T shirt.
As a tree professional I'm just in awe about Captain Rainbow's tree felling technique. He's the reason why some people shouldn't be allowed near a chainsaw .He's lucky to be alive. Smh 😬
What shocks me is the PILES of people saying he done everything right and it was just a hanger. He had no comprehension of basic physics of how weight shifts in a tree. Or the proper angle to cut like the chainsaw manual will tell you
I was thinking this should be used as evidence to take away his drivers license long before the truck got involved in this video. Some people lack basic awareness of simple reality and are a great danger to others.
The big fella cutting the tree is a total plank
I come from a logging family and I have never heard of or seen anyone have that much trouble bringing down a tree! That poor guy!
Its dead ash...those trees aint right..from the best i can tell
Right? He may not have been textbook, but it should have been fine. Goes to show how unpredictable it can be.
at least it fell right next to the woodpile.
@@dalekuhnheim1714its a dead red oak..and thats a office man doing a real mans job.
The fact that you never heard of it only tells me that most likely the pride prevented them telling. Everybody makes mistakes. Just a real man admits to them.
Is he wearing science goggles?? At least he had a safety vest and Hi-vis color dye.
Pretty sure those are goggles for diving and it's a good idea, protects your eyes from sawdust.
Holy crap, super entertaining
These two need their own channel
I could literally watch that train wreck all day
That tree stole my saw. I had to go get another one
For those of us old enough to remember, looked like a scene from Laurel and Hardy.
I only saw Oliver.
@@Daniel-Weaver Hahahahahaha.....good one!
You are the 2023 winner of TH-cam comments!!!
I actually laughed because it applies on multiple levels.
Well played!
Yup, fat & stupid was the core theme here.
Dude! you were lucky! I suggest buying G.F.Beraneks book - The Fundamentals of General Treework. It may save your life :) The main issue here is the dutchman you left in the face cut. That is what stopped the movement (and of course the tips)...what you did could've worked out much worse for you. Also look into the proper method for removing hung up trees....climbing up the trunk to move the rope you put in the wrong place is probably NOT a good idea. Your friend may not last too long taking risks like that. Anyway glad you got it down without injury.
A real friend woulda shimmied up that tree 12 feet and made another cut..🤣🤣
Some of us are taught or learned from our mistakes the hard way..
You coulda sheared the stump off with c4 and that tree would still be stuck in the top..
Glad they got it done with all their digits intact..
🍺🍺
One tip: use wedges. They're less expensive than replacing a bent bar and chain on a tree-bound chainsaw.
I wouldn’t call it a “fail”. It didn’t go easily, but still ended up on the ground.
Was that part of the Darwin Award winner eulogy?
After some time it would have ended on the ground by itself, so that's not the best measure of success.
It was more a series of fails
Hire an Arborist. But if you refuse to go that route… 1. Don’t cut through your hinge.. ever. If you don’t know where the tip of your bar is, then stop cutting. 2. You can’t fell a tree that’s tangled up in another tree without felling both, or putting a rope in it, that’s physics, you won’t win.
Only need a 1/3 of the face out, I always figure.
Every once in a while, a little screw up can get you back on track to doing things better. Seemed when I first started I needed 2 saws to fell one tree quite frequently. As we all should know, every stump tells a story of what went right and or wrong. We learn and move on. As long as nothing gets destroyed or anyone hurt, it's just another tree down.
Hey…they got it down. He had it aimed toward the house-so I thought it was going to end very very badly. Part that made me laugh the most was him overdoing it on clearing the area of teeny tiny sticks before cutting. A safe flight path is right thing to do…but that was hilarious 😂
Never underestimate a tree's unwillingness to come down. That tree was stubborn! (and a bit hung up on its neighbors)
It was hung up on others.
If the guy woulda cut it right
Any old-time logger can tell you stories of having to knock one 'stuck' tree down with another, sometimes taking a whole bunch of other trees to eventually get the mess on the ground. It's always a harrowing experience for them.
Why didn't you notch it away from that other tree?
4:04 Pretty risky, climbing a dead tree that's already been sawn off its stump and is caught up on other trees. It could easily have twisted and/or fallen.
Textbook execution of the " Thompson" two saw cut. When done correctly you sacrifice your $300 Stihl, by means of crushing, for the $80 poulan you were forced to borrow or buy from Walmart. Master class. The upsidedown face cut was just showing off.
No foooolin with poulan..😂😂
I would agree that everyone of us has had a bad day. The guy did just fine. I have fell alot of trees. And I have also got them hung up in branches from other trees. It's a pain in the ass for sure. Given no trees were in his path it would of been a perfect felling job. Hats off to you good job.
Exactly. If you are just cutting firewood you can't afford to hire a pro or a boom truck. We are just farmers so on the sketchy ones we just substitute horsepower for climbing/rigging. Lean it into the others then hook a long cable and a big tractor around the base and pull. It works better if the tree is still on the stump.
For everyone wondering;
He simply forgot to yell TIMBER!
I was hoping for a delivery from Acme to arrive…
Wow, what a stubborn tree. It just doesn't want to go down. Way to stay with it.
What in the kentucky fried did i just watch...
So I read the comments from the professional loggers and arborists, a few of which actually mentioned the specific things this guy did wrong or didn't do. Such as taking down some adjacent trees to make room, and climbing up the tree and taking it down in pieces rather than one shot. Well, this guy managed to get the job done without having to go through all that extra work, he didn't get hurt, and he saved himself a couple thousand dollars to boot. Doesn't seem like a fail to me at all.
Damn lucky he wasn't hurt.
What’s a few grand compared to being able to walk or being alive? This guy is so lucky. Some things are better off left to the professionals
What about good arb practice, the man is a nob and shouldn't be allowed near chainsaw.
I agree it doesn't really constitute a "fail". The fact that it wasn't doesn't really make it smart / a good decision though. For starters you say he did it without "all that extra work", I guarantee it would have gone a lot faster if done correctly. Secondly it would not have cost "thousands of dollars" to get taken down professionally.
I was quoted $2000.00 to take one tree down.
Is this satyr? I havent been a logger a day in my life but i could point out at least 25 things thats wrong with this
Conventional wedge was way too deep lol, I personally use humbolt wedges but you only gotta go in about maybe 4 or 5 inches for that size tree but it’s hard to tell on video the actual size of it
Humbolt cuts are mainly used on hillsides to slow the tree down when it’s separated from the base also maximizes the board feet of the first log when milling.
@@jeremyscott6641 humbolt wedges are also the safest and most accurate wedge you can trust. I’ll do conventional wedges if I’m dropping a huge oak tree, I’ll take it right down to the ground where I’ll draw my cut because that’s all fire wood but conventionals can be unpredictable when felling of the tree has a crappy lean or wind interference. I like my humbolt. Just the safest method and works for me. Just personal preference I guess
Wedge is fine, it's supposed to be a third of the girth of the tree and this is like 40% so it's not too bad.
A chainsaw is one of those tools that you really need instruction and or mentorship from someone who really knows operation and safety.
” my daddy did it this way, his daddy did it this way…..” does not cut it with chainsaws. There’s physics, science and all the properties of reactive forces that are best schooled unknowns. Even with experience, training and safety equipment which should be standard, things can still happen. Please be safe and get training from someone who is experienced and don’t ever compromise any of the safety equipment. Thank God I have been trained by one of the worlds most foremost chainsaw experts, Tim Ard of Forest applications. Thank God you’re OK, please get some training
Well, the tree is down. Plus, you got a great video and story out of it. Thank you for posting it.
Yep, if he would have aimed it a bit better it would have been a nonevent and not nearly as entertaining.
Fair play - you had a nightmare, but you still showed it which helps others learn, thank you for doing that. I'm no expert with a chainsaw, I only take down small trees myself and would bring in a pro for something that big.
Nothing in this video is useful for "learning" safe tree work. Literally everything shown was wrong...
@@Jmashley73you're an arrogant schmuck if that's what you honestly think. He did a few things wrong for sure. But nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. Yes, even you.
My observations: Having noticed all of the other trees creating an entanglement issue. You should have determined the path of least resistance for it to fall. Put the ratchet strap, wedge or whatever force used to persuade falling that way, and cut your front V notch that direction with hinge cut in the back. Watching the video, you didn’t cut your rear cut enough below the front cut for a hinge anyways.
yes, we all now know what the problem was, but it probably wasn't obvious at the time....
@@davidgardner3640 yeah, it was.
L'abbatage d'un arbre c est pas si simple.
Cela doit être effectué en totale sécurité et après avoir bien étudié l' aspect de l'arbre. Sa hauteur, son envergure voir sa couronne son inclinaison, la rotation ou le retour lors de la chute et la zone d' écrasement et surtout l'environnement proche qui peut rendre vraiment difficile l'ouvrage.
Tout le monde peut tronçonner mais abattre sérieusement et en toute sécurité c est autre chose.
Ça s'apprend avant tout...
@@davidgardner3640yet the comments section is full of people who don't get it
his hinge was fine. no matter what you do the tree aint falling through other trees. thats just how it works
I am by no means an expert here, but have fell my fair share. I have been in his shoes a few times too. I didn't get my bar hung, but have had some hangers. It is good to look at where your falling it, but also look up at the canopy as well. That tree had several large branches from another healthy tree that captured its fall. Its all about reading the tree and the trees around it. Thats a very dangerous situation to be in. I have been there before too.
If you haven’t been through this, you aren’t felling trees! LmFnao! Thanks for posting this!
True, everyone is saying these guys are idiots but they didn't do any major mistakes, if they were idiots someone would have ended up injured or dead.
Absolutely!
anyone who has actually went through the proccess of learning how to fell trees has deffinatly been in a similar situation as this guy. everyone thinks its so easy cause they watch abunch of youtube videos but its not. didnt help that the dudes saw was about as dull as it could get lol. sharp chain is a safe chain dull chain is asking for problems or to get hurt
@swere1240, exactly! As one that has taken a saw to the knee, (my fault, walked up behind someone),
The doc said that it was a great thing the saw was sharp, or I would’ve lost my leg.
I now have cool battle scars! 👍🤣
I mean, yeah, that was a rough one to watch. Not sure what those side cuts were meant to accomplish. Glad he got it safely on the ground. Would definitely benefit from reading Jepson's "How to fell a tree". That said, for all of the keyboard warriors out there pretending like they've never looked up at a snagged tree and thought, "well shoot", then I question your honesty. We've all been there. Maybe not quite to this extent or with this many errors, but this is how you learn what you don't know. Hopefully the guy gets some inspiration to get some formal training.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never had a tree hang up. Never had a tree rock back. (eyes looking away and rolling) I am an expert (cough. Cough)
@@dalekuhnheim1714 🤣 Yeah... ahem.. never lol
The gap in the canopy is about 30 degrees off from the direction of his notch. No wonder it got hung up.
I showed this to friend of mine who owns a tree bussines. He said he hadn't seen so many ways to die in removing a tree.
What a coincidence, Peter Perfect’s a friend of mine too.
Please leave it to the professionals.
One thing I learned in my 15 years of professional tree work is that: anyone who's distant cousin ever owned a chainsaw automatically knows all there is to know about cutting trees down.
It's the strangest phenomena I've ever encountered; people won't hesitate to call a plumber to change out a bathroom faucet, but they'll argue how to cut down a tree with someone who does tree work every day.
@@chazzmccloud36 But I watch every episode of Axe Men.
You don't have to be a professional, just don't be an idiot. I've used chainsaws for a very long time, never been "professionally trained", never fucked up anything.
But I've also told more than a few people that no, I won't cut down that tree that's leaning over your house. Call someone with the proper equipment AND insurance.
@@Bryan-yl7mg right on!
Good advice
did i saw a guy going up in a tree while tree is already cut? :D
I knew it was about to get real when he broke out the poulan 😜
ok... that one made me LOL!!!
Ryobi not Poulan, lol. Makes no difference of what brand of saw.
@Richard Sullivan probably made in the same sweat shop in China , my thought is if your backup plan is an extremely homeowner grade chainsaw then you probably don't have enough experience to get in a situation where you might need a backup plan...But that being said successful people tell the most boring stories... I did a thing, it worked out. How lame is that ?!
He could have used a chainsaw with a V8 for engine and it would not matter a t all. Just saying.....
Poulan wild thing>all
One thing's for certain, he could have been a hell of a lot stupider. At least he didn't get hurt.
Jeeze, Northern NH Hampshire here. Your backside cut is to low, yup pinched. happy to see the safety vest in the woods. When one has to use 2 saws to fell a small tree, they have no business running a saw. Now we have it roped up. Hey, buy your firewood or call a tree service.
I Had my saw stuck in the exact same situation, though when the tree started to lean the saw swung 180 degrees to the side the tree was falling then dropped to the ground, the tree then jumped off of the stump and landed right on top of my 6-month-old MS 290 and drove it about a foot into the ground.😯😳😞 What stopped it from going deeper was a big rock under the saw.... A very expensive lesson to learn.😭
If you screw up and pinch the bar, take the power head off before you go any further.
@@nospam3409 That is some good advice which I had never thought of! I have never mashed a saw but I have been lucky.
@Dale Fry my dad and I turned his bar into an S one morning with a 14" dead hickory. If the power head had still been on, the but of the tree would have landed directly on it. It's one reason that all of my bars will run on all of my saws.
Reminded me of a Benny Hill sketch, with the speeded up noises.
All you needed was an old bald guy.
Jugs, it needs jugs!😆
I was doing handyman jobs as a side gig. A renter reported a tree that was leaning over in the back yard, I was asked to take a look at it. The tree was starting to uproot, and was essentially held up by the power line running from the utility pole to the house. I let the agent know I didn't have the equipment to handle the tree while protecting the power line. A week later she calls me back, the power company came and disconnected the wire, moved it to the other side of the tree, and re-connected the power, so can I go back and cut down the tree. What ensued was very similar to this scenario, with the tree finally coming down and a branch smacking and bending the top rail on a chain link fence. Too bad I didn't have a Go-Pro!
Ah yes, the ol’ 1:1 mechanical disadvantage 😊
Felled trees in BC for years. This wasn't a case of doing something wrong, this was a case of doing everything wrong. Yikes! Lucky no one was hurt.
He did something very wrong. He actually paid for that multicoloured shirt.
Am i wrong in thinking he got scared and stopped cutting too soon?
thankyou to the peanut gallery, comment section is always funnier than the actual video.
Sometimes they just go where you think they look like they will go & sometimes not, but you got it down & nobody got hurt :)
Was it leaning backwards and he tried to make it go forward? Should the backcut have been done first?
I've truly never seen anything like this
In a dense forest it is common. In our timber if we had this scenario (which we have) we cut it off, then hook a hefty 50' cable around the trunk and pull it off the stump with a 150 hp tractor. Sometimes with hollow or rotting trunks we cut them partway through and throw the cable around it then snap them off. There is not much danger. The only time I ever got hurt was when a tree fell and shot a broken branch 25 feet, hitting me in the knee. That was sore for a long time. I am 71 now and too old to cut trees but I always enjoyed it.
I’ve had a couple of bad fells before. Had a tree fall the wrong way once so I feel as long as no one got hurt that’s the important part. Felling trees isn’t easy. I’m glad they didn’t resort to dangerous tactics to get it down that’s when things get spicy.
As a timber faller I will tell you almost everything they did was a bad idea. 🙏🙏👍💪
The whole video was about how to resort to dangerous tactics.
I started out a little concerned, but as soon as I saw that poulan I knew everything was gonna be alright 😂😂
Poulan & Ryobi!!😂😂 2 throw aways fr!!😂 Or just never buy either..😋
I was out cutting in the forest the other day. Had a look up and around for danger in widowmakers, limbs half broke hanging, falls that are hung up, the usual. I'm cutting away under a massive red gum that had lost a limb (half the canopy) and taken an iron bark down with it. Anyway it was while loading I had a better perspective from away from the spot where I saw what was essentially a person sized tree dart hanging by its leaf branches pointing straight down at my cut pile 😮 clean shaft bushy top.
The thing even had had a nice sharp point from the break and was lined up beautifully. I lassoed the bottom and was able to pull it down quite easily, when it hit the ground between bucks at the edge of the pile it drove about 4/5 of a foot into dry land.
I had missed it somehow looking straight up at it 🤷♂️ it was a lightly windy day with gusts, i was cutting alone.
Be carefull out there guys and girls👍sh .it happens.
Oh man, never and i mean *NEVER* cut trees when it's windy, even a little wind is a problem and don't go alone, if you get hurt who will take you to the hospital? My dad knows his stuff and even he cut his leg once pretty bad, if i wasn't there he would have bled out.
@@TheDennys21 sometimes wind and rain won't wait until you have your rent or food money. The luxury of time is not always available.
Not picking just saying.
Dads lucky mate, back belt and leather chaps is all I have atm so no cuts but yeah he's lucky.
@@standardaussie are you a lumberjack?
@@TheDennys21 not on paper, I do however make my main income from felling, processing and selling firewood.
I chef for the few off months.
@@standardaussie i see
Sometimes those trees just get tangled together at the top. If you only want to cut the one tree, this is how she goes.
No other way to do it. No pro is going to climb that rotten tree to rig it and can't get a boom truck in there. The only thing I would have done differently is to pull it at the first lean. And not with a pickup but with a 15,000 lb. tractor ( I'm a farmer) on a long cable. But this came out fine.
Has that chain ever been sharpened? It looks like it's burning through the tree.
This is not a fail, it's more of a things didn't go as planned kind of situation. I mean shit happens, my grandpa was a lumberjack and even he made mistakes sometimes, that's life.
Then you know how to remedy it. Family Guy here even messed that up.
If grandpa was a lumberjack it shows he was good. Like the old saw, pun intended, "there are old lumberjacks and there are bold lumberjacks, but there are no old, bold lumberjacks!"
What happened to the Stihl?
This lumberjack’s expertise in picking up small twigs at the base of the tree is unparalleled! 😅😂
Kinda reminds me of when you chop down trees in Minecraft.
Actually, it is one of the first things a person should do- secure a path of escape/egress BEFORE cutting and the tree starts falling. After that it was a clusterfck.
I was a tree faller for many years, this guy is playing with twigs because he's nervous. I don't think he has very much experience. This is a extremely dangerous profession and everyone that does it will get hurt and possibly killed. This guy should have got someone with experience to guide him.
@@NeedAVacation3this😂 thank you.
That was a nail biter to watch. I'm sure being there in person was much more stressful. I'm glad you guys didn't get hurt. Learn from your mistakes. We all make them.
None of us are perfect.
I’ve never had a mishap, much less 3-4 at one time…. that is, since my days are full - surfing YT & knitting 😀
Is that sunburn on the back of there necks ? Or are they just red
The way he kept hanging out in the danger zone freaked me out
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@@edithbannerman4 the bannermans mansion had its munitions exploded. The remains are still there and available for tour on bannerman island. War Profiteers who’s sold arms to the north and south. We Rodgers have a long memory and the name bannerman still leaves a bitter taste.
@@royrodgers3296 okay thanks for that
I call that a win!
And some great entertainment 😂
Exactly! The way he was so visible throughout the video is pure greatness!
Did he over cut the face cut or was it just leaning hard backwards?
The part where he hit the tree (not the wedges) with the sledgehammer really did it for me 💀
Shit happens, after thousands of trees and maybe a handful of accidents, I'll admit it before anyone.
Unfortunately I have been there done that ,usually a gust of wind from nowhere is my problem. There could be no wind that day till I cut a tree down.
@@jeffharper7579 Oh man... You said it... Yesterday as a matter of fact...
No where near a large tree at all thank god. Nice sunny quiet day. Got my wedge cut and aimed where I want to go. Start making my final cut to drop, dark cloud comes up over the ridge, along with some gusty wind and boom it snaps the hinge the opposite way and clamps my chain bar.
To add insult to injury it starts raining... :D
Weather can getcha when you least expect it.
Stay safe out there brother👍. I have had to take and leave my bar in the tree and put a spare but shorter on to finish dropping the tree. Not fun.
@@jeffharper7579 I have never thought of that! Good idea! I usually have 3 saws with me so I can use one to unstick another. They are all of different sizes and weights.
Freestanding trees are scary. I've only had it happen once to me but it was not a good feeling.
I was felling this slender spruce tree, there was some branches in the way from a nearby pine but they where all dead so I figured the spruce could just snap them without any issue if it got hung.
It turns out those pine branches where way tougher than I thought so the tree got hung, and because it was such a small and slender tree, I could almost get no leverage with my wedges, especially since I messed up like this guy and made the face cut too deep. Though ofc I didn't mess it up this badly, I did a fairly normal 1/3 face cut, but in hindsight, I should have done it as shallow as possible to leave more space for wedges.
So I decided to cut out the middle of my hinge and then cut of one of the side posts to allow the tree to roll and thus hopefully roll itself lose. It did not. I tried using wedges again, it tore out the last post holding the tree on the sump. It was now standing freely on the stump. In the end I had to go get the winch to pull it free. It took a lot of effort since I had to take detours to avoid places where the tree could go if it suddenly broke free.
So many mistakes it becomes a comedy festival
Funny I looked at your TH-cam channel, didn't see any professional tree felling videos at all..... Just a grown man playing with toys..A lot of Thomas train toys . Dude I'd rather ride in this guy's truck if ya don't mind. He might even have an adult beverage. Toys SMH......
@@HARVIELL1you say that yet this guy is wearing a tie dye shirt...
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408So what if he's wearing a tie dye shirt ? What are you a fucking fashion critic? 😂😂😂