Yeah but Katherine does not deserve him she raped, used, tossed, pushed him around, manipulated, and deceived him while he was Human much like Damon did to Caroline and to a lesser extent Andie yeah
She was once a sweet and innocent girl turned bad because of what she went through. She didn’t deserve to go to hell. She did this to survive because unlike Elena she had no one
Did you forget the fact that Katherine didn’t turn off her humanity when she lost all of her family like Elena did? Elena was weak with her humanity off.
@@swiftie4ever2010 her emotions kept her on her toes and helped her survive, if she shut off her humanity then she would not have survived. Her fear of Klaus and her desire to stay alive kept her alive and helped her survive. If she didn’t feel then she wouldn’t have felt even fear and probably would’ve done some real stupid shit and acted all brave trying to get back at Klaus and she would’ve ended up dead. Her fear was the encouragement needed for her survival instincts to kick in.
@@swiftie4ever2010 people seem to forget that Elena turned off her humanity because Damon ( who she was sired too ) told her too. She had no choice in the matter
@@joshthaller4754 here's the deal, katherine has done a lot of shit, but these murders are not her fault. These are klaus's. So stefan unburdens her of damon's wrong accusations and gives her a chance to feel peace in her final moments. You may have an opinion of whether katherine deserved this or not, but i think this has more to do with stefan being an empathetic and compassionate person.
Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah. She broke his heart for 100 years then ditched him. She lied that she loved him, when it was Stefan all along. When she died, Damon was the one who tried to get her out of the tomb for 100 years, and only for him to find out she was never in the tomb , but very much alive, PLUS that she never lived him?Stefan just forgot about her and did nothing. I think that Damon had his reasons to say she deserved to die, because she did. Yes she may have have a horrible life of running , does this excuse all the people she’s killed? All the lives she ruined or sacrificed? No. And please, ffs, STOP COMPARING STEFAN AND DAMON. Stefan literally stalked Elena for 3 whole months. They’ve both done horrible things and have been horrible people. No vampires are innocent in this show, so why is everyone saying Stefan is better? He’s not.
@@LS-mr9ve wait what..katherine loved stefan, but she sure as shit didn't treat him well. Dude, she literally fed on him, compelled away his fear, took away any form of consent he could give into their relationship. Steferine was borderline toxic and abusive, similar to daroline. He also compelled her to drink her blood, again, consent? She literally ruined his life in s2, caused jenna's accident, stelena brekaup. In s5, she killed jeremy and broke stefan's heart when she pretended to be elena, the woman stefan loves. She doesn't care about HIM, unless it concerns HER. This is quite evident. She was a lying, manipulative b**ch to both stefan and damon. Just bcoz she fell in love with one, doesn't excuse anything she did to him. STEFAN MOVED ON. DAMON COULDN'T. Stefan made a healthy move, damon didn't. You are free to have an opinion on katherine, but I believe the OG comment tries to reflect on stefan's empathy. I believe stefan is more empathetic than damon is. That's all.
I truly wish this was her actual death scene than the one in the finale season. This is far more meaningful and heartfelt. It shows that deep down all of the things she has done to survive, she was just a 17 year old girl that was trying to stay alive. I always cry at this scene. It shows how much forgiveness Stefan had for her compared to others. Thanks for uploading.
But if she didn’t came back when she was Elena’s body there weren’t be that scene when she comes to see Nadia one last time and loved that she did that.
okay listen Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah, she broke his heart for 100 years and ditched him for Stefan always. so in my opinion he had the right to talk about Katherine like that everyone does that in their life to someone who has hurt them mentally, emotionally, and sometimes even physically and Katherine did that to Damon. while she didn't do it to Stefan I personally think Damon is the better man when he's not being used but then again when isn't he used? and hurt? stefan hurt him, elena hurt him, Augustine used and hurt him, katherine hurt him and betrayed him, his father abused and hurt him mentally, his mother betrayed him and hurt him, sybil used him, silas used him for a bit, quetsiah used him to kill silas, he lost andy from stefan, he lost rose on his behalf, he saved caroline and tyler and then saved matt and caroline again risking his life because of klaus, he was willing to put himself before elena, he lost elena, he lost his brother, everyone wasn't being honest to him, bonnie tried to kill him ( a lot of people tried too ), he got rejected so many times, elena chose his brother over him after hitting on him, he got betrayed by his uncle, he saved elena so many times yet still she chose stefan, he almost died because of bonnie in a fire, lexi had him not see his brother for the longest time, he lost his best friend enzo and alaric, and way more so don't tell me that first damon doesn't have a right to talk about Katherine and that Stefan is 100% the better man because Damon has gone through more than Stefan thank you very much.
Yona Kayser yeah, just because he got used, betrayed, and left a lot of times doesn’t mean he is the “better brother” or a better person at all. One’s own experiences doesn’t make them better or worse, no matter if those experiences were horrific to go through. Damon’s emotions are real and valid but his actions are not. He kept hurting people, and a lot times innocent people, just because of his feelings. THAT IS NOT OK. The good things a person does indeed does not and should never excuse the awful things they do as well. This is the “nice guy” trope all over again.
I know she´s supposed to be evil and everything but i kind feel sorry for her here. She was just a kid who lost her entire family just like elena except elena lost her family with some time between them while katherine lost her family all at once.
Elena had friends who helped her deal and cope with those stuff...Kat was all alone...and she had to spend the next 500 years running from a psychopath...she didn't even have the time to mourn..
i think stelena's chemistry was better! But steferine's was amazing as well! Even if u Dont choose stefan..you gotta accept that his is the better man,he BECAME a better man,not bcoz of elena or caroline,he did it for himself,and i appreciate that spirit. While damon was tryna become a saint FOR elena,which backfired in the most hilarious way possible,sadly killing aaron whitmore.
khushi sinha eh I think stelena chemistry was forced in a way. He never loved the real Elena he loved the perfect princessy image he created of her. Katherine forced stefan to be real and conquer his fears,like when they were in the box together, she was a better fit for him (in my opinion) they both pushed and saved each other at times
@@itachistan437 Stefan salvatore was IN LOVE with Elena Gilbert in s5 (until 5×18) when she wasn't all princessy or fixed as you would like to call it. She was still a vampire and stefan apparently had no prblm with her! So this clearly denies ur frst reason. Moreover, why do you treat elena gilbert from s1-3 as a child? That princess stabbed herself in the stomach to put down an original, and sacrificed herself for her loved ones more than once. She was brave, smart, selfless and innocent, amd not stupid. I believe she IS the real elena. I believe Both Elena and stefan recognised that elena was changing for the worse when she became a vampire. She herself preferred her previous self as she said to stefan on the day of her breakup! She said that she would do ANYTHING to get that girl back and that is exactly why stefan kept looking for the cure. So that she herself would have a choice to bring that girl back. And gradually as the story progressed she somehow accepted herself, and when she did, so did stefan, s5 again. The narratives were twisted very cunningly to fit in delena.
hats off to nina because she really made us think that katherine and elena were 2 different people. when i see katherine i don’t even see elena and that’s insane. they truly felt like 2 different people to me.
But the problem is that if her daughter was still there and her family still alive, she wouldn't be the Katherine that we love....in fact, she wouldn't even become a vampire and therefore would've died back in the XVIth century....
No she doesn’t. She ruined , sacrificed and killed many many people. For people saying “She did what she had to do to survive” , now she has to be held accountable.
@@LS-mr9ve I understand that she killed and ruined peoples lives but she was just a teenage girl who had her daughter stolen from her with a vampire wanting to kill her for selfish reasons, she just wanted to live cause she was afraid of dying, my comment may have been a little bit naive but then again i made that comment about 2 years ago maybe less? But she does deserve to be free of fear and live with her daughter in peace
@@krystalmejia50 what she needs is some form of punishment before her peace. Whatever the reason, she ended lives. And for that she needs to pay. When she redeems herself , then I think she should get peace with Nadia.
@@LS-mr9ve she did get punished, she lost Stefan, she lost her life, she lost her daughter, she lost her family, again I don’t think what she did was right but she did it for survival, she did that for a reason, she deserves to find peace
How? Even though we can understood why she turned like that, she was a complete asshole to everybody aroun her. Helena had her defaults but she was not evil
@@jadefo2433 Katherine didn’t turn off her humanity. She copes it differently in a way but Elena has to turn off hers and managed to destroy a bunch of lives. Almost including her best friends over a prom queen asset.
@@swiftie4ever2010 Elena wasnt the only one who turned her humanity off: stefan caroline and damon did it too. Katherine and elena both lost their families but elena continued to be kind and selfless but katherine only started to think about herself. She ruined all of her chances of happiness just to survive. I meaan i get it that u like her more than elena, a lot of ppl do but Elena was a better person and dats fax. I love them both ❤️
This scene is a perfect example how similar Katherine and Klaus was in a way that both their father were cruel to them because of circumstances. One was shamed because she had a baby from an unknown family, and other because he was weak in his eyes and also a hybrid because his mother's had an affair with a werewolf that killed his brother.
Facts is stefan could forgive her because he liked her Damon really loved her and thats why he acts like that to punish her because she hurted him so hard like katherine said love /hate such a fine line
Honestly,i expected stefan to fall for katherine again but had to kill her knowing she deserves it when she took over elena's body(which would break his heart btw)! So the show runners destroyed stelena,steferine and just when i thought steroline were gonna be happy forever,they killed stefan. Okay!
The background of Katherine’s life is so sad She was only 17 when her father kicked her out and took her daughter away. Not just that, Klaus was trying to kill her and when he couldn’t kill her, he killed all her family. I know that I hate her but her background story is so sad.
To be fair the way Katherine lead Damon on only to not tell him sooner that she does not love him allowing him to continue to go on a wild goose chase for her thinking she was trapt in the tomb was a major betrayal on her part and Damon is not as forgiving of betrayal as Stefan is because unlike Stefan Damon faced the worst kinds of abuse from there parents especially there Father and faced the traumas of war that made him indifferent to killing people at least in certain circumstances and reasons like for survival, defense, and self defense even though for a long time even as a Vampire after 1912 he had a soft spot for children, babies, and pregnant women
Oh my fucking god , that's sooo sad , i was crying. I love that scene really so much because Stefan helps Katharina to find her peace. I believe in it that Stefan still loves Katharina , but in his own way , like he want . That scene was the best epic moment , for me 😥😥🌸🌸
The result of Stefan's compassion was Katherine possessing Elena, causing more pain and suffering. Failing her daughter, had she died Nadia would never been bitten. Stefan should have made smarter choices
How he treated her ? What about how SHE treated HIM? Have you literally not watched the show? Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah. She broke his heart for 100 years then ditched him. She lied that she loved him, when it was Stefan all along. When she died, Damon was the one who tried to get her out of the tomb for 100 years, and only for him to find out she was never in the tomb , but very much alive, PLUS that she never lived him?Stefan just forgot about her and did nothing. I think that Damon had his reasons to say she deserved to die, because she did.
@@smita568 she returned to check on her family 2 years later the year she turned and she turned at 17 i wasnt sure so i looked it up and she was 15 when she gave birth
Ngl in the beginning I felt like she wasn’t evil because the cards she was dealt she only did what she had to do to survive but then there were times where she kept causing trouble when she could’ve went somewhere and made peace with herself. I don’t blame her for wanting to hurt the people who hurt her but that didn’t bring her any happiness only death in the end.
damon had unrequited love towards katherine. not loving him back was all katherine ever did to damon until this point. but damon in turn gave her pain. stefan was abused by katherine in the past. and STILL he gave her peace. he forgave her and made her feel peaceful even though he was abused and used by katherine.
Are you serious? Katherine used Damon like a Toy. He was trying a way to get her out of that tomb for 145 years and more. She knew about it. Didn't do anything. Damon was abused throughout his life by his father .All he wanted was someone to love him. She loved Stefan got it. Why did she string Damon along. Just for fun. When Damon found love in Elena she tried to kill her also. And what was the reason.Elena is living a live that Katherine couldn't live. Wow.
Damn klaus really fucked up katherine after this day. He is a savage and she didn't do shiit about it she was just one of his victims. 😂😂. My man was he legend he said it he is always one step ahead of his enemies and he was right, he went out on his own terms.
Katherine used them both but the only thing she did to Damon was not loving him back and it's not her fault that she loved Stefan not Damon, Damon had no right to judge Katherine while he is just the same as her, at least Katherine do it for survival and shes just a 17 years old who had no one but Damon had his brother but it was him who choose to go at the wrong path, and he blame Katherine for what he become but Stefan never blame Katherine for what he is, he suffered as much as Damon he was only 17 years old while Damon was a grown up man, Katherine compelled her most of the time unlike Damon, when they got betrayed by their father it was much more hurt for Stefan becuz unlike Damon his father loves him,... The point is Stefan know what he did wrong and tried to be a better man and he is the better man while Damon blame everyone for who he is and choose the wrong path for himself
Okay. Look. While I did feel some sympathy for her, NOTHING that happened to her justifies what she did for 600 years. Let's not forget she let her daughter die. She could have attempted to go to Klaus and get the cure but didn't. She had the opportunity to do something good but put herself first. Again. And trying to burn Caroline's children alive and destroy Mystic Falls? I guess her family's murder justifies that, too. I can feel bad for her and not justify anything she has done since.
Katherine Pierce went through a lot it’s not her fault that Klaus wants to sacrifice her while she was a human. After that klaus killed her whole family at once because of his werewolf side that he wants to get rid of. Stefan is a better man than Damon because Stefan probably understands why Katherine was like that. Btw Klaus should deal with whatever he has and ask his dear mother why she has a lover and everything
Yes, they never really get in to it on the show but guessing Nadia may have had kids before she was changed. So her kids went on and etc etc till it came down to Isobel who became pregnant with Elena and another doppelganger version same as Katherine. Funny how they never mention who Nadia's father was, Interesting thing was Katherine finding Stefan, some 350 years after she turned and yet Stefan found his doppelganger in modern times, so I wonder if that other Silas version was meant for Elena and Stefan was actually meant for Katherine.
@@mcleodmikemcleod9798 yeah I think stefan and Katherine were meant to be then Elena and someone else. that's why steferine was so much more powerful than stelena
U know…..I hate that Klaus never owned up for what he did to Katherine. Like he apologized to everyone……except Katherine. That’s disgusting to me 🤷🏾♂️
@@swiftie4ever2010 girl- someone already commented why elena had her humanity turned off. it was because she was sired to damon and was told to turn it off so she had no choice chile anyways
@@swiftie4ever2010 because of the sire bond? She fed on him. She felt like she had to do anything for Damon to try and please him, so if he said he should turn off her humanity , then she did ?
Stefan CARED about Katherine since the beginning.
Yesss steferine forever🥰🥰🥰
wasn’t Damon the one who spent 100 years of his life finding ways to get Katherine out of the tomb?
@@LS-mr9ve damon is a dickass. don’t even mention his name.
X
And hence he is better brother
Yeah but Katherine does not deserve him she raped, used, tossed, pushed him around, manipulated, and deceived him while he was Human much like Damon did to Caroline and to a lesser extent Andie yeah
She was once a sweet and innocent girl turned bad because of what she went through. She didn’t deserve to go to hell. She did this to survive because unlike Elena she had no one
Did you forget the fact that Katherine didn’t turn off her humanity when she lost all of her family like Elena did? Elena was weak with her humanity off.
@@swiftie4ever2010 her emotions kept her on her toes and helped her survive, if she shut off her humanity then she would not have survived. Her fear of Klaus and her desire to stay alive kept her alive and helped her survive. If she didn’t feel then she wouldn’t have felt even fear and probably would’ve done some real stupid shit and acted all brave trying to get back at Klaus and she would’ve ended up dead. Her fear was the encouragement needed for her survival instincts to kick in.
@@MarySanchez-zl1sg exactly and that’s what katherine did
@@swiftie4ever2010 people seem to forget that Elena turned off her humanity because Damon ( who she was sired too ) told her too. She had no choice in the matter
@@mario9075 fr like Elena was having a mental breakdown losing her loved ones and Damon over here was telling her to turn it off
Stefan is a better man. The fact, he went out of his way to give peace to his abuser, confirms it.
His heart is pure❤
Stefan is the foolish man, katherine did not deserve any mercy.
@@joshthaller4754 here's the deal, katherine has done a lot of shit, but these murders are not her fault. These are klaus's. So stefan unburdens her of damon's wrong accusations and gives her a chance to feel peace in her final moments.
You may have an opinion of whether katherine deserved this or not, but i think this has more to do with stefan being an empathetic and compassionate person.
Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah. She broke his heart for 100 years then ditched him. She lied that she loved him, when it was Stefan all along. When she died, Damon was the one who tried to get her out of the tomb for 100 years, and only for him to find out she was never in the tomb , but very much alive, PLUS that she never lived him?Stefan just forgot about her and did nothing. I think that Damon had his reasons to say she deserved to die, because she did. Yes she may have have a horrible life of running , does this excuse all the people she’s killed? All the lives she ruined or sacrificed? No.
And please, ffs, STOP COMPARING STEFAN AND DAMON. Stefan literally stalked Elena for 3 whole months. They’ve both done horrible things and have been horrible people. No vampires are innocent in this show, so why is everyone saying Stefan is better? He’s not.
@@LS-mr9ve wait what..katherine loved stefan, but she sure as shit didn't treat him well.
Dude, she literally fed on him, compelled away his fear, took away any form of consent he could give into their relationship. Steferine was borderline toxic and abusive, similar to daroline. He also compelled her to drink her blood, again, consent? She literally ruined his life in s2, caused jenna's accident, stelena brekaup.
In s5, she killed jeremy and broke stefan's heart when she pretended to be elena, the woman stefan loves. She doesn't care about HIM, unless it concerns HER. This is quite evident.
She was a lying, manipulative b**ch to both stefan and damon. Just bcoz she fell in love with one, doesn't excuse anything she did to him.
STEFAN MOVED ON. DAMON COULDN'T. Stefan made a healthy move, damon didn't.
You are free to have an opinion on katherine, but I believe the OG comment tries to reflect on stefan's empathy. I believe stefan is more empathetic than damon is. That's all.
I truly wish this was her actual death scene than the one in the finale season. This is far more meaningful and heartfelt. It shows that deep down all of the things she has done to survive, she was just a 17 year old girl that was trying to stay alive. I always cry at this scene. It shows how much forgiveness Stefan had for her compared to others. Thanks for uploading.
So true
But if she didn’t came back when she was Elena’s body there weren’t be that scene when she comes to see Nadia one last time and loved that she did that.
she was 19 actually
How's Damon talking about other people being psychopaths after doing psychopathic stuff all day.
okay listen Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah, she broke his heart for 100 years and ditched him for Stefan always. so in my opinion he had the right to talk about Katherine like that everyone does that in their life to someone who has hurt them mentally, emotionally, and sometimes even physically and Katherine did that to Damon. while she didn't do it to Stefan I personally think Damon is the better man when he's not being used but then again when isn't he used? and hurt? stefan hurt him, elena hurt him, Augustine used and hurt him, katherine hurt him and betrayed him, his father abused and hurt him mentally, his mother betrayed him and hurt him, sybil used him, silas used him for a bit, quetsiah used him to kill silas, he lost andy from stefan, he lost rose on his behalf, he saved caroline and tyler and then saved matt and caroline again risking his life because of klaus, he was willing to put himself before elena, he lost elena, he lost his brother, everyone wasn't being honest to him, bonnie tried to kill him ( a lot of people tried too ), he got rejected so many times, elena chose his brother over him after hitting on him, he got betrayed by his uncle, he saved elena so many times yet still she chose stefan, he almost died because of bonnie in a fire, lexi had him not see his brother for the longest time, he lost his best friend enzo and alaric, and way more so don't tell me that first damon doesn't
have a right to talk about Katherine and that Stefan is 100% the better man because Damon has gone through more than Stefan thank you very much.
@@yonakayser5634 Yep!!!
Yona Kayser yeah, just because he got used, betrayed, and left a lot of times doesn’t mean he is the “better brother” or a better person at all. One’s own experiences doesn’t make them better or worse, no matter if those experiences were horrific to go through. Damon’s emotions are real and valid but his actions are not. He kept hurting people, and a lot times innocent people, just because of his feelings. THAT IS NOT OK. The good things a person does indeed does not and should never excuse the awful things they do as well. This is the “nice guy” trope all over again.
@@angelantayhua3096 That goes for all characters then not just Damon
Damon being Damon😏
I know she´s supposed to be evil and everything but i kind feel sorry for her here. She was just a kid who lost her entire family just like elena except elena lost her family with some time between them while katherine lost her family all at once.
And also Elena have best friend who always protect her like bonnie and Caroline. But not with Katherine. Poor little girl.
Elena had friends who helped her deal and cope with those stuff...Kat was all alone...and she had to spend the next 500 years running from a psychopath...she didn't even have the time to mourn..
Another difference between them is that Katherine’s family were BRUTALLY MURDERED all at once
I dont know if i can ever forgive klaus for this havoc! Yes i hate him,and he has given me multiple chances to do so!
I absolutely adore JOMO!
Also the fact that Katherine didn’t turn off her humanity despite everything that happened to her shows us how freaking strong she is
They each bring the worst and best out of each other..
This is why She always loved Stefan ❤
She was not stupid like Elena..
She knew why its always gonna be Stefan 💗
Their chemistry was better than stelena in my opinion. I always wanted them to be together
i think stelena's chemistry was better! But steferine's was amazing as well!
Even if u Dont choose stefan..you gotta accept that his is the better man,he BECAME a better man,not bcoz of elena or caroline,he did it for himself,and i appreciate that spirit.
While damon was tryna become a saint FOR elena,which backfired in the most hilarious way possible,sadly killing aaron whitmore.
khushi sinha eh I think stelena chemistry was forced in a way. He never loved the real Elena he loved the perfect princessy image he created of her. Katherine forced stefan to be real and conquer his fears,like when they were in the box together, she was a better fit for him (in my opinion) they both pushed and saved each other at times
@@smita568 as Emily said because even in death your heart is pure Stefan One of the MANY things I love about him
@@itachistan437 Stefan salvatore was IN LOVE with Elena Gilbert in s5 (until 5×18) when she wasn't all princessy or fixed as you would like to call it. She was still a vampire and stefan apparently had no prblm with her!
So this clearly denies ur frst reason.
Moreover, why do you treat elena gilbert from s1-3 as a child?
That princess stabbed herself in the stomach to put down an original, and sacrificed herself for her loved ones more than once. She was brave, smart, selfless and innocent, amd not stupid. I believe she IS the real elena.
I believe Both Elena and stefan recognised that elena was changing for the worse when she became a vampire. She herself preferred her previous self as she said to stefan on the day of her breakup! She said that she would do ANYTHING to get that girl back and that is exactly why stefan kept looking for the cure. So that she herself would have a choice to bring that girl back. And gradually as the story progressed she somehow accepted herself, and when she did, so did stefan, s5 again.
The narratives were twisted very cunningly to fit in delena.
love katherine! i really wished she died here on a good note rather than making her evil again.
hats off to nina because she really made us think that katherine and elena were 2 different people. when i see katherine i don’t even see elena and that’s insane. they truly felt like 2 different people to me.
I love Katherine with all my heart and wish she didn't die because of Elena
I wish Katherine family didn't die too and that she keep her daughter
same I wish she never met Klaus
But the problem is that if her daughter was still there and her family still alive, she wouldn't be the Katherine that we love....in fact, she wouldn't even become a vampire and therefore would've died back in the XVIth century....
@@emmaroyer4088 true true
This scene was beautiful. Hurting people hurt people, that’s what Katherine was.
This is why Stefan is the better man than Damon
Agree. I still ask myself how could Elena choose Damon over Stefan.
Yeah and after this Katarina took over Elena's body. If Damon was here it wouldn't have happened.
Stefan was always a better man than Damon. Don't know how the show can continually try to say otherwise.
Yess❤️
@@beatrizjardim8308 I don't think Elena deserved Stefan. Her and Damon are much more suited for each other.
Katherine deserves love, peace, happiness, and a normal life with Nadia, she’s nothing but an innocent girl who lives for survival
yeah
No she doesn’t. She ruined , sacrificed and killed many many people. For people saying “She did what she had to do to survive” , now she has to be held accountable.
@@LS-mr9ve I understand that she killed and ruined peoples lives but she was just a teenage girl who had her daughter stolen from her with a vampire wanting to kill her for selfish reasons, she just wanted to live cause she was afraid of dying, my comment may have been a little bit naive but then again i made that comment about 2 years ago maybe less? But she does deserve to be free of fear and live with her daughter in peace
@@krystalmejia50 what she needs is some form of punishment before her peace. Whatever the reason, she ended lives. And for that she needs to pay. When she redeems herself , then I think she should get peace with Nadia.
@@LS-mr9ve she did get punished, she lost Stefan, she lost her life, she lost her daughter, she lost her family, again I don’t think what she did was right but she did it for survival, she did that for a reason, she deserves to find peace
This act of compassion from Stefan had me bawling when I first saw this, it was so emotional.
This is one of the reasons I love Stefan so much ♥️
Omg Stefan really loves Katherine😍😍😍
Katherine is my favourite character, she was much better than Elena honestly...
How? Even though we can understood why she turned like that, she was a complete asshole to everybody aroun her. Helena had her defaults but she was not evil
Jade Fo she just had to do what she had to do to survive
Facts only
@@jadefo2433 Katherine didn’t turn off her humanity. She copes it differently in a way but Elena has to turn off hers and managed to destroy a bunch of lives. Almost including her best friends over a prom queen asset.
@@swiftie4ever2010 Elena wasnt the only one who turned her humanity off: stefan caroline and damon did it too. Katherine and elena both lost their families but elena continued to be kind and selfless but katherine only started to think about herself. She ruined all of her chances of happiness just to survive. I meaan i get it that u like her more than elena, a lot of ppl do but Elena was a better person and dats fax. I love them both ❤️
In my mind, Katherine died here. In peace, with Stefan as he loved her, with her baby.
i was bawling my eyes out this entire episode, then she took over elena’s body and i just felt like an idiot for feeling bad lol
This could of been Katherine’s last episode where Stefan could help Katherine found peace this episode was truly beautiful for. Katherine
This scene is a perfect example how similar Katherine and Klaus was in a way that both their father were cruel to them because of circumstances. One was shamed because she had a baby from an unknown family, and other because he was weak in his eyes and also a hybrid because his mother's had an affair with a werewolf that killed his brother.
The fact that Stefan offers her his compassion after everything she has done to him show why he is the better man
wow comparing this and when Damon got in her mind just proves who the better man is
Facts
Damon liked Katherine
And Stefan loved Katherin
Facts is stefan could forgive her because he liked her
Damon really loved her and thats why he acts like that to punish her because she hurted him so hard like katherine said love /hate such a fine line
I don't know why but I always found Damon and Elena as a selfish couple .
Why? I don’t think they were
wait why?
@@serenatasalvatore334 I kinda saw that, they didn't really care about others except each other
U ain't the only one
@@aarabhichris yeah thats the whole point of their relationship 😌🖐
Honestly,i expected stefan to fall for katherine again but had to kill her knowing she deserves it when she took over elena's body(which would break his heart btw)!
So the show runners destroyed stelena,steferine and just when i thought steroline were gonna be happy forever,they killed stefan.
Okay!
Stefan and Katherine are cute together ❤❤❤❤❤❤
The background of Katherine’s life is so sad
She was only 17 when her father kicked her out and took her daughter away.
Not just that, Klaus was trying to kill her and when he couldn’t kill her, he killed all her family.
I know that I hate her but her background story is so sad.
Lol katherine won in the end she got to die with a man she loves in the last episode and Damon lost his brother forever
Karolina Dean he did it to save Elena and mystic falls. He didn’t give a shit about her after she went to hell
Danielle Martinez theres no proof about that
Danielle Martinez lies
No lies here
Well. In the end Stefan and Damon got peace together.
I love Stefan so much ❤️
To be fair the way Katherine lead Damon on only to not tell him sooner that she does not love him allowing him to continue to go on a wild goose chase for her thinking she was trapt in the tomb was a major betrayal on her part and Damon is not as forgiving of betrayal as Stefan is because unlike Stefan Damon faced the worst kinds of abuse from there parents especially there Father and faced the traumas of war that made him indifferent to killing people at least in certain circumstances and reasons like for survival, defense, and self defense even though for a long time even as a Vampire after 1912 he had a soft spot for children, babies, and pregnant women
Wow ! Just WOW
Oh my fucking god , that's sooo sad , i was crying. I love that scene really so much because Stefan helps Katharina to find her peace.
I believe in it that Stefan still loves Katharina , but in his own way , like he want . That scene was the best epic moment , for me 😥😥🌸🌸
i personally think that it should have ended with season 5
The result of Stefan's compassion was Katherine possessing Elena, causing more pain and suffering. Failing her daughter, had she died Nadia would never been bitten. Stefan should have made smarter choices
I love Damon but I hated how he treated katherine
How he treated her ? What about how SHE treated HIM? Have you literally not watched the show? Katherine treated Stefan so well, she sacrificed Damon to die when she told him to kill Elijah. She broke his heart for 100 years then ditched him. She lied that she loved him, when it was Stefan all along. When she died, Damon was the one who tried to get her out of the tomb for 100 years, and only for him to find out she was never in the tomb , but very much alive, PLUS that she never lived him?Stefan just forgot about her and did nothing. I think that Damon had his reasons to say she deserved to die, because she did.
So stefan and katherine lost their children at the tender age of 17!its sad!
Think katherine was 15
Stefan said she was 17..what makes u think she was 15?
@@smita568 she returned to check on her family 2 years later the year she turned and she turned at 17 i wasnt sure so i looked it up and she was 15 when she gave birth
@@kerrienelson1808 oh..okay!
@@kerrienelson1808 makes sense actually
Stefan care about Katherine and love her
Ngl in the beginning I felt like she wasn’t evil because the cards she was dealt she only did what she had to do to survive but then there were times where she kept causing trouble when she could’ve went somewhere and made peace with herself. I don’t blame her for wanting to hurt the people who hurt her but that didn’t bring her any happiness only death in the end.
I love Stefan so much. Idk how can Elena be with Damon.
This made me cry.
damon had unrequited love towards katherine. not loving him back was all katherine ever did to damon until this point. but damon in turn gave her pain. stefan was abused by katherine in the past. and STILL he gave her peace. he forgave her and made her feel peaceful even though he was abused and used by katherine.
Are you serious? Katherine used Damon like a Toy. He was trying a way to get her out of that tomb for 145 years and more. She knew about it. Didn't do anything. Damon was abused throughout his life by his father .All he wanted was someone to love him. She loved Stefan got it. Why did she string Damon along. Just for fun. When Damon found love in Elena she tried to kill her also. And what was the reason.Elena is living a live that Katherine couldn't live. Wow.
After this, Katherine still betrayed Stefan by possessing Elena😕
I don’t understand why the writers did that😒so stupid. Like why can they let her be at peace with her daughter like damn.
I was Damon fan before I see this scene after I saw this scene I am Stefan fan.
Was nadia child take away from her because elena was Katherine distant direct descendants?
STEFAN SALVATORE THE MAN THAT YOU ARE
Damn klaus really fucked up katherine after this day. He is a savage and she didn't do shiit about it she was just one of his victims. 😂😂. My man was he legend he said it he is always one step ahead of his enemies and he was right, he went out on his own terms.
song please
sarah blasko illusory light
Does anyone know the name of this song?
stefan is the better man
Song?
Katherine used them both but the only thing she did to Damon was not loving him back and it's not her fault that she loved Stefan not Damon, Damon had no right to judge Katherine while he is just the same as her, at least Katherine do it for survival and shes just a 17 years old who had no one but Damon had his brother but it was him who choose to go at the wrong path, and he blame Katherine for what he become but Stefan never blame Katherine for what he is, he suffered as much as Damon he was only 17 years old while Damon was a grown up man, Katherine compelled her most of the time unlike Damon, when they got betrayed by their father it was much more hurt for Stefan becuz unlike Damon his father loves him,... The point is Stefan know what he did wrong and tried to be a better man and he is the better man while Damon blame everyone for who he is and choose the wrong path for himself
Okay. Look. While I did feel some sympathy for her, NOTHING that happened to her justifies what she did for 600 years. Let's not forget she let her daughter die. She could have attempted to go to Klaus and get the cure but didn't. She had the opportunity to do something good but put herself first. Again. And trying to burn Caroline's children alive and destroy Mystic Falls? I guess her family's murder justifies that, too. I can feel bad for her and not justify anything she has done since.
Katherine Pierce went through a lot it’s not her fault that Klaus wants to sacrifice her while she was a human. After that klaus killed her whole family at once because of his werewolf side that he wants to get rid of. Stefan is a better man than Damon because Stefan probably understands why Katherine was like that. Btw Klaus should deal with whatever he has and ask his dear mother why she has a lover and everything
Elena is a descendants of same family as Nadia ?
Yes, they never really get in to it on the show but guessing Nadia may have had kids before she was changed. So her kids went on and etc etc till it came down to Isobel who became pregnant with Elena and another doppelganger version same as Katherine. Funny how they never mention who Nadia's father was, Interesting thing was Katherine finding Stefan, some 350 years after she turned and yet Stefan found his doppelganger in modern times, so I wonder if that other Silas version was meant for Elena and Stefan was actually meant for Katherine.
@@mcleodmikemcleod9798 yeah I think stefan and Katherine were meant to be then Elena and someone else. that's why steferine was so much more powerful than stelena
Forgot how much of a Dick Klaus used to be hard to see after the last two seasons specially after that final e
U know…..I hate that Klaus never owned up for what he did to Katherine. Like he apologized to everyone……except Katherine. That’s disgusting to me 🤷🏾♂️
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Kristen Baldwin May 23
Catherine 😂😂😂😂 RIP
Please does not forget how she ruined and destroyed everybody's lives that are around her. Just a suit her plans
wrong.
pls don’t forget that katherine didn’t turn off her humanity to cope like how weak elena did when they both lost their families.
@@swiftie4ever2010 girl- someone already commented why elena had her humanity turned off. it was because she was sired to damon and was told to turn it off so she had no choice chile anyways
@@ari-yl2yn all of this sired bond is really stupid and idk why she had to do it anyways just because damon told her too. she always listens to him.
@@swiftie4ever2010 because of the sire bond? She fed on him. She felt like she had to do anything for Damon to try and please him, so if he said he should turn off her humanity , then she did ?