Waldorf Streichfett - String Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Waldorf Streichfett - the cheesey string machine emulator according to their sales material. We take a look
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This is unrelated but my observation. The culture among synth people is cool. I'm a guitar guy and if you browse effects videos it's nothing but negativity and trolling. They attack each other's playing, looks, voice, equipment,etc. It's exhausting. Great product btw and cheers to the grown ups.
tim starkey Nice observation bud! Cheers!
tim starkey Coming from guitars also--yes. To me this is because Synths are as much craft and artisanship as they are Art--you are learning a trade, the craft of making sounds, and the tricks and tips aren't arcane secrets or requiring years of practice...but are instead pure knowledge. So much of playing the guitar is frustration...with yourself, with your gear, with your bandmates.
Now in the synth realm I feel really limitless. Which is not to say that I don't love my first instrument, but the sad fact is that the guitar community, both youtube and IRL, really was weak when it came to knowledge. What would it take do sound like Andy McKee? Like A7F? The answer with guitarists is always 'get gud' With synth guys they immediately take off into a yarn about what kind of tones and what kind of boxes and knob-settings it would take. It's all recipes and help and nothing like a sermon.
My main complaint with synth guys is that there just aren't many of us. A lot of guys happen to play synths, that are really keyboard/piano/organist dudes, they really take or leave the craft part of us. The pyramid builders/mason's mindset seems pretty rare among musicians.
A year ago I started obsessing over synths after watching Nick's review of the sub 37. A year later I'm chest deep in all of it and more in love with music than ever.
Well said mate!
+tim starkey I think it also has something to do with the way Nick presents the stuff: his nice british humor, his background in the music business, his expertise just attracts no trolls and negative people but mostly serious music people.
+tim starkey Some synth fans can be real jerks too. But maybe it's not as bad with synth people. Some synth people realize the important thing is making some music and having fun :)
The name of this unit should be called: Italian Horror Film Soundtrack Generator
@@craigdamage cheese machine
I've just realized that this review was from 7 years ago. Nowadays, this synth would be called 'Synthwave Synth' and those sounds are coming back! I really like those 'retro' sounds
Errr, yeah but in 2014 this was already coming back from 40 years ago... :)
@@Ni5ei Well, it's back again now. Everything comes back after 30 years. Punk's next, then we're in for a decade of digital synths and heavy metal.
Can't wait ! 🤘
@@2112jonr I'm old enough to have lived through all of these music genres. If they're coming back already I really feel old 😂😂😂
I use this box for Dreamwave and Vaporwave
All the waves, I can't keep up 🌊
Streichfett is German for spreadable fat. But it’s also a multiple word play on Streicher, which means the string instruments or the string section of an orchestra, and Fett, which literally means fat, but is also used in the meaning of “phat”, profitable or awesome.
albedoshader so no one including Germans could decifer their own language.....im sticking to English and Spanish
You could make an entire album just with this box... If it was 1978. Still going to buy one.
Do it man. I've had one for about a year now. I love it. A lot.
Sometimes something just is different, perfect, and works.
+Ryan Allen Not at all. It's actually a very powerful machine capable of organs, strings, basses, and leads. I recommend it.
If you buy this you must play "I'm Not in Love" with your bar band.
to help you out with the translation a little. Streichfett is actually playing around with words. STREICHFETT in German is the greasy lard / Schmalz type of greasy stuff that you apply to a slice of bread for eating which obviously gets you lots of calories :-) The meaning for the synth is Streich = Strings and Fett = FAT so it means also Fat Strings sound. Hope that helps :-)
Back to the piece: Thanks for the demo. It seems to be a good replication of the 70´s string machines. What I was looking for is rather a string machine that does the string ensemble sounds of ELO Roll Over Beethoven or simply the Apple Garage Band.App. what Streichfett obviously does not support- So I need to keep on looking.
I love how simple it is. Also, it's pretty much Air French Band and American Analog Set in a digital box.
Excellent demo as always, really like this one from waldorf.. a no brainer for anyone in the porn music business :)
when that ensemble effect gets switched on it sounds lovely, with some of the settings i can hear early kraftwerk and the pad sounds at 12:11 and 12:54 sound bloody epic
would love to hear a blofield or a pulse in your sound more than the mininova
Jay Owen Yeah, this one really seems like a solid buy. Now, where was my pot of gold again? :)
ollilaboratories This is cheep though :)
ollilaboratories You said porn
Rhizosphere Pornwave, yet another niche genre.
Great video and a fantastic piece of hardware. I don't think those sounds are a bit cheesy, they're wonderful and timeless!
I had no idea this existed but its something I've been looking for for quite a while
Just picked one of these up. Great piece of work and reminds me of my Moog Opus 3( which is now destroyed due to continued live use). I hope Waldorf continues to do these tabletop synths. Really dig keeping the title in German too.
My word! I had a passing interest in this and I did NOT expect it to sound so good and musical! Great review Nick, thank you. Woah, this and the 2 Pole really seem like great bits of kit!
"Music for bats" haha, I love that effect of which you speak. It really adds texture and atmosphere! Things like "Everybody Loves The Sunshine" by Roy Ayers come to mind.
News flash -> Bats rush to music store to buy German spreadable-fat synth. Fights break out, peace restored by calling Batman and Robin.
Music for Nick Batt(s)
Excellent review as usual Nick, but wasn't sure if you mentioned that this a digital divide-down oscillator, so in fact although it isn't analogue it's probably one of the first divide-down instruments since the early 80s. That heavilly contributes to why it has some of that sound more than romplers and softsynths, I would say.
I did not know that, and it explains a lot!
I had to read up on what divide-down oscillators are. This on the electronic music wiki rings so true about the Streichfett: "...not only will all D's or E's or F#'s, etc, be in absolutely perfect frequency ratios, but they will all be in perfect phase with each other"
Which really explains the way octaves sound on it. Very interesting!
This guy makes a great presentation
12:10 That's where it shines!
thx m8 saved me like 12 min of the bald guy
you're watching a review / overview. not a demo.
Tis' true. Nick is a fucking legend.
Just saw this 5 months late, but in that time I've come to understand and read about Nick, not only that but I've been learning a lot about synths and synthesis from him.
I must agree with you and apologize for my previous comment.
@16:54 😳😳😳 ok i've been on the fence about this and even have a Rocket on the way but the way you played Jarre ...that hit me right there 🥺 and just wow...special
Since the reverb is global, you could bypass the onboard verb, then add an external delay and reverb across the outputs.
Great review as always, and what a cool sounding cinematic throwback module.
Absolutely
The Reverb sounds actually way better than Blofeld's
I bought one of these a couple weeks ago and I love it. I'm really into the way Waldorf has designed this. It is nice to have a machine that just makes good sounds, rather than having to build everything from scratch... That sounds odd coming from a synth lover, but it is oddly refreshing.
Every time you turn a knob, it is almost inevitably inspiring. It feels like Waldorf engineered every possible variation you could try, and in that sense it is some sort of weird fluid preset machine. But man, the sounds are just gorgeous. The only missing feature that I lament is a highpass filter, but I think I can just rock the EQ on my mixer when I want it to be less bright. Also, a delay would have been awesome, but that would have required two knobs for time and decay. I'll just buy a digital delay for it.
One thing you failed to mention, Nick, is the split function. It can be pretty useful! However I'm glad you mentioned that the solo and string sections can be sequenced on adjacent MIDI channels! I had to revisit the user manual because I had totally missed that. That effectively makes this two synths. And though it isn't a pounding or heavy bass machine, and it is extremely limited, the solo section can make awesome retro-sounding bass sequences. I'll definitely be using it that way.
i was really underwhelmed until you played the presets! sounds quite nice
I love this, and the Rockett. Together is bliss. Add a Blofeld or Sledge and it's digital synth nirvana.
Great video! (as always from Sonicstate) Bought one after watching this. Fantastic little machine!
Plugins can do that, sure, but nothing beats the tactile, personal experience of a piece of hardware you can touch.
Picked one of these up a few months ago. Pulled some cool sounds out if it, then sort of forgot about it. Set it up again last night and WOW! Ran it with the sequencer on a TB-3 and beats from a TR8S and was amazed! Just incredible!!!
Love this little machine. Stands on my desk ever since. Nice video too.
It's actually dsp wavetable synthesizer they build a string machine emulation of. The reverb sounds surprisingly good. All in all you get a big fun to play synth machine for few bugs. It's also surprisingly versatile in its own range of course. For me it captures the spirit of the 70th perfectly.
Got one second hand.. super sounds, super value for money.
I tried to wait for the review but had to buy one before. It does make you want to play. For the limited number of knobs it is capable of producing a wide range of usable tones.
While it has a Left (mono) jack, it really only sounds good in stereo. The reverb and ensemble effects really make it shine.
These sounds are so inaccurate... I totally want one!!!
Had to have one of these after seeing this review and finally got my hands on one. It's totally awesome.
Gotta be the best synth bang for buck. What sounds, wow.
Great video. The ending was amazing with a great 70’s & 80s synth sounds.
wonderful little box, not only for cheesy 70s soundtracks or Jean Michel Jarre style. It can add some spice in techno-ish live-sets when controlled by a hardware sequencer.
Is this real analog?
no, it's fully digital but emulates the sound of analog stringmachines
"Spreadable fat"? In German, "Streich" means "strings," as in "Streichquartett" (String Quartet). So wouldn't Streichfett more properly mean "Fat Strings"? Just a thought.
It's a double entendre. In German, "streichen" means to stroke or to spread (among other possible translations). "Streichfett" refers to food items in the category of butter, margerine, etc; literally a fat-based spread. The "Streich-" in "Streichinstrument" refers to the action of bowing--a stroke across the strings. So the name invokes both warm butter on toast and orchestral fatness.
Way to go Waldorf with the clever names.
+Gln Mcm way to go for the German language for being so weird.
Phew! I knew we needed native German speakers to translate this properly for us. I didn't really want to see "spreadable fat" on any synth I owned.
its neologism
spreadable fat because strings used to be made of stretched gut
Just ordered. Sounds awesome. Thanks for the review.
Just got mine today, I love it! It's well good for ethereal aphexy sounds too
Very Joy Division sounding . Love it
"Music for Batts" ☺️
oooh equinoxe part 1 at the end,...beautiful
I just got mine and I also watched a teardown video of what's inside and I must admit that it's a very basic motherboard. I've seen cheap laptop mobos with 10X the components including video and audio. After all this time without any new features, Waldorf is really milking this cash cow for as much butter as it can get. By now I would've expected a new and improved version with a dedicated filter, and some other modulation features, for about the same price. Keep in mind that I'm talking about a desktop device rather than a keyboard version such as the Waldorf STVC String Synthesizer and Vocoder. At nearly $500 for a basic DSP device (not a whisper of an analog chip to be found) that has been in production for nearly a decade, it must be a huge profit maker for Waldorf. Yet, it's about the most affordable piece of kit in the Waldorf lineup for me. I bet they could lower the price tag a hundred dollars and still soar high above the bottom line, even in the era of COVID and supply chain issues.
While I agree with you, I've used this thing for about 5 years and I really think a lot of research went into developing the sounds and the way it works.
Errr, that's because all of the clever things happen in the twin DSPs, metaspherz.
And computer motherboards haven't looked like you described for a VERY long time ! 😆
Nice touch at the end
136 notes of polyphony. 🤪
Let's just ponder on that fact for one moment. 88 keys + 49 keys = 137 keys.
So basically, pressing down all of the keys on an 88 key keyboard AND all of the keys on a 49 key keyboard at once.
Respect.
Thanks for the review! I see it like a very unique and musical instrument, enabling impressive live performance even on a very basic sequence. You need to love these type of sounds, which (and many other people from what I've read) do much. I use it for trance, dreamwave, ambient ... I plan to use it with external effects plus combine it with my analogue stuff, I somehow feel that this cooperation will bring very touching results 💟 One more thing to say ... there are people requiring so many "features", but just a few people can really take advantage of them ... Too many options = blocking creativity. I love minimalism. And here --> easy does it! IT WORKS!
For what it's worth, the play-on-word name goes down several levels. "Spreadable grease", yes. Also, "Streicher"-instruments, in German, are all string instruments. (The word is related to "stroking" - playing strings, you stroke the strings...) So you get spreadable fat, connected with strings, connected with "fett" which is used as a positive slang word, meaning awesome, crass, loaded. You end up with a name that has "cheesy, greasy, top shelf string" in its meaning as well as some amount of irony.
I like this man,how he explain things....
Not seen these before but just seen one of these on eBay second had, so had a look into what they did. Wow, very impressive and think it’d fit in with a fair few styles of music. Also noticed they still sell them new, which says something, you don’t keep making gear people don’t like, so must be popular. Great review as always 👍🏻
I've been using other string emulators for the last 2-3 years, and just came across my Streichfett in a box, on a shelf, while moving apartments. I haven't used it since by old band broke up when the pandemic hit.
So I checked out this review again out of nostalgia, and MAN, this just perfectly makes most of the sounds that I'm usually looking for *perfectly*. I have to incorporate it into my production setup once again.
It's so well considered and designed for someone with my production aesthetics. Other divide-down synth emulations just miss the mark somehow.
Love the sound
I think that the name "Streichfett" is coming from "Streich" which is a derivative of "Streichinstrument" meaning "Bow instrument". "Fett" is fat, combining both "Streich" and "Fett" makes a nice butter to spread.
or it could mean fatstrings
It reminds me of the synth sounds from the movie Scarface. 80's kitsch in all its glory!
This. With strymon pedals. Imagine.
+Patrick Allison Used it with the Blue Sky yesterday, pretty awesome ;)
Anything sounds awesome through that. Even my farts xD
Brilliant demo got mine thanks
A bit late, but the first part Streich probably relates to Streicher, wich means strings. So they took the existing word Streichfett, wich indeed mean spreadable fat, to name their fat string machine.
"John Carpentry" LMAO
lolol
Great little box of wonders here. I'm enjoying mine. I think nearly everyone could use a string machine of sorts in their setup. I needed something small with a great sound and this is very good. Effects are quite good in my opinion. I was impressed with the reverb. Can you use a vst...sure but it's not going to have the immediacy of hardware as a lot of the magic happens when you turn the register knob..also I have vst string machines but this sounds better in general...especially the raspy part of the sound.
"spreadable fat" sounds a lot like butter to me.
Deceptively simple - reminds me (in context more than anything) of the the old Crumar Performer (I miss owning it BTW). If you bunged this through an external effects unit, such as a half-decent chorus pedal or 2nd phaser... this goes from cool to epic. I see a purpose to this, I know that there are a few software emulators of this type of synth... but to me, the all the eggs in one basket idea can lead to a big potential of going wrong when you need it most. This, for the price range, adds lots of sonic depth to a live performance. Still not eliminating it from the wish list - even after 3 years.
OMG I was thinking Joy Division and Solina from the get go. This sounds amazing at €226 with storage for sounds!
Fantastic piece of kit, unique.
As always..... Excellent review once again. Great job Nic.
my wait to hear JMJ on this paid off at the end! awesome sounding eminent copy
I didn`t think that I was gonna like this as I have little interst in 70`s Disco/cheese music but was suprised as I got shades of Mellotron & the backing Synth in Visage`s Fade to Grey etc etc
Great demo and excellent explained! Thank you!
"Streichfett" refers to butter, margarine, or other fatty products you spread on bread. "Streich" is also part of "Streichinstrument" which is the German word for string instrument.
Strings in German is: Streichinstrumente - so this is a wordplay meaning fat strings. (and yes of course it is also spreadable fat/grease, for example duck/goose fat which, spread on a slice of black sour dough bread and with some salt, tastes heavenly good accompanying a bowl of cabbage soup. Go figure.)
The Synthwave machine!
Very good thank you
3:18 Where's Waldo?
"Music for Bats" HAHAHAHAHA I'm dying!
Nice review!!
Could have been interesting to review it with the whole kit, the 2-pole & rocket.
I'd gladly swap the reverb for a delay otherwise it sounds dirty enough to forget its digital. Good review.
This looks great
The chorus is weak on this. Can't wait to run it through a Neo Clone or any of my other pedals 😍
It can do more than strings though... very nice stab machine too
Super video ! Merci bien.
As soon as you said "Digital Emulation" I thought, I already have that ...UVI's String Machines 2. Great review at any rate Nick :) Edit...OK, I just realized this was made in 2014. UVI's SM2 wasn't around yet. So pretty cool for 2014 ;)
Can use through stereo guitar?? No video on guitar??
Wonderful review. You hit all the points of this machine. I'm sold! Will be my next purchase! Thanks and keep the reviews coming. Would love to view you reviewing the Blofeld.
The 4 memory buttons made me think ARP Quartet, but the sound is far from thin and cheesey as the Quartet. Waldorf even managed to get by the trade war sharks for a proper exchange rate. Not like others where pounds equals dollars with VAT or even before.
I`d carefully checked my Streichfett and its knobs not wobbling. I think Nick received overused or flawed item.
this is the best synth in yrs hands down vintage sounds the best
+chris Last obviously you haven't been following all the great synths released the past two years and the newer ones out now- this is digital- it cant compete with all the great all analog synths released- however its still a nice piece of gear
Don't listen to this guy. This is the only digital synth I own (well it was until I caved and bought one of the Roland Boutiques) and it holds its own. And then some. Stands out great in a mix and perfectly emulates the cheese of classic string synths. Digital or not, this guy is a beast and can go toe to toe with any other modern synthesizer, digital or not. It can do basses, strings, key type sounds, and a lot more. I've made a few songs using only this module. It's worth the price of admission for sure.
Makes me think of the Bowie berlin period instrumentals, Low and Heroes albums.
Does it have pulse width modulation?
Sonicstate has created an excellent video. This can be purchased new for $300.00 (what I paid) and is a super machine for experimenting with. I like analogue as well as digital and often combine both. To me most of the newer synths and FX devices seem to specialize, which is fine by me as there is not much I do not have and this synth is different from the rest. It is even better than the older string machines. It is a terrific thing that Waldorf is still producing.
totally agree
Plenty of character there and very organic sounding. I hope they will implement master tuning via software editor. When the do, I'll pull my wallet out ;)
I just got one so I'm still exploring it. I like it but I've just noticed that it is NOT velocity sensitive. In fact it will not even respond to a volume or expression pedal. I'm not sure it's a major disappointment. The biggest disappointment with this review is this fact is never mentioned.
very cool patch at the end of the vid
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think a better translation might be "Fat Strings" or "Phat" as some people say. I have one and i'm enjoying this simple little box, it sounds better than I expected.
VANGELISSSSSSSSS
Owen O'Malley Yes, Yamaha CS-80. Arp Quadra also could make those strings
I have waited so long for your review. What took you so long? In the meantime I allready bought the Streichfett. It's so lovely. Will you do a DS Pro 2 review? Or did I miss it? wkr
Your body.
Give it to me.
12:13........Gary Numan would love it, i think...so do i...lol.
I wonder why Waldorf didn't make one of this with 49 or 61full size keys and one knob and fader for each parameter for real time modifications...
500€...
They will sell it like donuts.
It is coming with an added vocoder but in the 700-800 euro range
this is the first time i see someone touching a knob on a synth, and see all the other knobs wobble because of it.
yeh, they're getting excited in anticipation it's their turn next for a tweak.
I found the streichfett disappointing initially, for the price it does lack a lot. I have found that it shines when used in combination with another synth through midi out, layered in the background for an additional flavor
@13:20 is mainly what I'm interested in! I love that kind of thing :). I think the trick is to get a really wide chorusing effect on those high notes. I would've loved to hear more examples of this effect.
Audio Slurm! Very tasty.
very cool and deep test
thanks
Waldorf, a totally quirky company that loves to play into the fetishy synth cosmology of history,
(It'd be tough to figure out whether Germany or Netherland has more synth geeks, but Gernany definitely has the companies supplying the synth geek gear)
I got this immediately, and it's a great unit---
This is some thing that will likely wind up in French band AIR's kit...
also very much a sound of a lot of backgrounds on early Klaus Schulze stuff, like Moondawn, Timewind and Mirage-- these devices are probably on Pink Floyd thing like Wish You Were Here and Animals---
love, love this machine--
and the reference to the early casios I didn't think of,, like those with this a few stomp boxers well probably make this further capable of flight---
Waldorf fuckin rules....
Time marker for self: 12:00 That glassy pad sound you're getting there in the first example is in the category of sounds I have always been fond of. It has that wavetable / formant choir kind of sound, like a PPG or K5000.
Synthesizer guys stick together always i get loads of problems with my temperamental synths but that's what we like it a dedication