Sucks that you had a loss like this. I been there unfortunately. As a viewer I encourage you to continue you to make videos. Im not Spanish and cannot speak it yet but I love that you use both. I think it caters to both english and spanish speakers which is unique and awesome. Also your handy work building your perches and crates etc. are a great inspiration. Keep your head up. Hope you get more back.
Sad to see this. If they were only out in the morning and you trained in the afternoon it can mess them up. I would think from a mile they should have been fine. Had to fly the wrong direction for many miles. Maybe a falcon attack to completely scare them. Try to train this group out and get them mixed with other pigeons or they will not be good as yearlings. Maybe several training truck tosses. What happened is a nightmare for all of us.
Yes, I made a big mistake. I should have wait for the next morning and do the toss. Well to late now. Yes, I will train them with other birds to be ready for the old bird season. I just got 2 more this morning. I have now 10 in total out of 25. Thanks
Sorry to hear this buddy. It happens to all of us and we feel your pain. We're always left wondering what happened and what we could have done differently.
Campeón espero que te hayan llegado unos más. Una pérdida tremenda pero las palomas son una experiencia que nunca se llega a saberlo todo. Sigue adelante!!! El palomo Negro ese de que línea es?
Asi mismo, nunca se save todo en las palomas. Llegaron 13. La negra es de los black-widows, pero no salio muy buena de cuerpo. Vamos a ver si llega a las carreras
Hermano no se desanime, aveces lo que pasa por algo es … Así que échele ganas no deje de echar ganas lo que se le dedica tiempo de corazón fuerte abrazo
Saludo quintero puede haber pasado algunas cosas por ejemplo el magnetimo de la tierra el sol cambia por la mañana esta de una pocion y por la tarde de otra una corrida de falcon te la saca del aria y recuerda los incendio de canada no te quite ten animo a mi me han pasado muchas cosas en esta larga carrera y sigo de pie suerte y bendiciones
Oh Jesus. Hopefully they come back. I don’t think 1 mile is too far at all. Nothing you did wrong IMO. I loft fly my birds in the evening and toss in the morning and they’ve been ok. Only time I lost a bird from a 1 mile toss was from a hawk. Man, I really feel for you.
Birds unable to come home from one mile you don’t want to have in your loft. They are crap birds. Waste of your feed, money and time. Hopefully they never come back.
Not your fault at all my friend. My theory would be hawks or picked up by others training or racing. Im sure you will get some more back but know myself its a horrible experience. We had 21 pigeons out on the night but this is now down to 10 after a week....still awful but youve just got to make a plan and move on. Keep us updated mate, we really enjoy your videos. Chin up 😊
Yes, something happened to them. I got 8 back so far and it has been 36 hours. I had a nice group of pigeons. I would probably should have wait a little more for start tossing, but the preassure of the races in just a month. Thanks
Have the young birds been rangeing in and out of the loft for long before this 1 mile toss its really strange that they would get lost,hopefully you get them back good luck,might be an idea to put some gps rings on some on another toss to see where they go
They were flying, but not that long. I probably rush it a little bit. Is the pressure also to have them ready for the season. This year took me longer to start because of the hawks
Los yung bird siempre hay que volarlos en la casa por un sierto tiempo para que se adapten a la jaula y después ir soltándolo 3 millas por lo menos 3 veses del mismo sitio y después ir subiendo le las millas
Si, ya llevaban como 3 semanas volando del palomar. Este toss fue bien corto. Si creo q me precipite un poco, pero bueno a aprender para la proxima. Gracias
@@quinteroloft9530 ya vi el segundo vídeo de las 12 que soltastes hesas llegaron bien que bueno me alegro mucho dale palante y que dios te bendiga yo estava entrenando las mias pero le dieron un virus y seme murieron 22 pichones y me q dan 21 que seven mejor pero nahh esto es hasi
Saludo quintero no es facil ver el palomar con pocas palomas uno se siente fustrado porque el trabajo y dedicacion para criarlos yo creo que fue la hora de suerta habia que sortalos por la mañana animo uno aprende de los errore suerte y bendiciones
Asi mismo. Despues q ya pase por todo el lio de los alcones perderlas ahora no es facil. Creo q fue sortarlas por la tarde, debi haber esperado a la manana siguiente. Saludos
So sorry in deed, Mr. Quintero. I think there are some factors to be considered next time. For instance, Mr. McLaughlin suggests to basket the youngsters and drive them around for 10-15 minutes for them to get used to the basket and the car. Some can even experience carsick at that point because its their first time, so he also suggests to toss them close or even in front of the house. Secondly, I also consider that, since that was their first toss, the tossing time should have been in the morning. Pigeons in general, but the young birds even more, get really stressed out when they are in the basket. Therefore, I think that tossing them in the morning would have given them the chance to return at least late in the afternoon; they were clearly scared and got out of the basket heading to the opposite direction. Just my observations, no meaning to sound judgmental. I hope to see more of you and your pigeons soon.
This was the 3rd time they were in the basket. The first 2 times I drove them for 15-20 minutes around and I let them go in my backyard. I think the main factor was the afternoon. I should have wait for the next morning to do the toss. So far I have 10 back out of 25. Thanks
Your time difference theory is probably correct and I'm with Frank on this one.. Getting tossed at 5 pm in the afternoon when they have normally been going out in the early morning can prove confusing to them, especially on their first toss. Everything is new to them to start with and the time difference just adds to their confusion.. Hopefully you get a few birds back in the next couple of days. I'm sure you will. Lets hope anyway.
No, this is impossible! How long had they been loft flying? If they were ranging, one mile should not be a big hurdle for them. Also you may want to fly your old birds and the YB may follow them back if they see the OB. One of my very last round YB was spooked by a hawk the other day and came back two days later by following my OB. I think your birds may trickle in in the next couple of days.
Is not far at all I do one and a half miles for my first toss not there yet but next week I let them out after 45 days lock down . Is not that you did anything wrong the birds have a hard time navigating all of the flyers have the same problem . You will get some back I hope . Many in my club breed over a hundred birds just because of that is something going on with them i don’t think is sickness but birds have hell of a time navigating. Take care
Yes, probably I should have wait a little more before the 1st toss, but the races are almost here, and I just wanted to rush. It was not a good decision. So far I have 8 back. Really small team to go through all the training process. I will probably not race the young birds
@@quinteroloft9530 not anything you did it was time for them to go to a short toss , Everyone have the same problem this pass three years birds get lost for not a good reason. I most likely I be in your shoes soon 😀 Take care .
Bro it happens to the best of us the birds probably met up with another pack of birds and got draft far away but just breed more and get ready for next year ☝️💪
@quinteroloft9530 sorry to hear, hopefully more come back. I had some YB come back 3 days later. I think you can expect to see a few more come back but yeah you'll lose some. 25 is your total # of YB or just from that toss? Even if your number is low this year it only takes 1 bird to win the race, maybe those that are left will be superstars! I wish you best of luck on both counts.
Distance surely wasn’t a factor: One mile is not too far for the first toss. *Maybe* time difference is a factor but I’ve switched from morning to afternoon without problems BUT then at other times have had tosses just like yours where I lose a bunch without a good explanation. Who knows what happens on these smash tosses and the underlying factors leading to them. It’s a sad and frustrating aspect of this sport especially when you get attached to the individual birds. Super sorry my friend!
Asi mismo, como para dejar de volar. Pero bueno ya los supere y voy a jugar con estas q quedan y si llegan a las carreras, a lo mejor las corro. Gracias
How far you released them as the first time? I released mines half mile first time and couple of times then increased the distance. I had zero losses. This tells you one thing. Poor homing instinct. But look the bright side. Birds unable to come back home from a short distance even young and first time better not to have than to have. Waste of food and time. Look the bright side and be happy. Those 7 probably are the ones you need inside your loft. The rest may be should stay outside the loft. I watch all your videos. Very informative. Greetings from Staten Island.
Yes, you are right. The rest will probably have been lost in the future. This morning came 2 more after 36 hours from the toss. So far I have 10 out of 25. Thanks
Sucks that you had a loss like this. I been there unfortunately. As a viewer I encourage you to continue you to make videos. Im not Spanish and cannot speak it yet but I love that you use both. I think it caters to both english and spanish speakers which is unique and awesome. Also your handy work building your perches and crates etc. are a great inspiration. Keep your head up. Hope you get more back.
Thanks for the comment. I will keep playing with the birds and lets see if they are ready for the season
Ouch...so sorry buddy...shit happens😢😢
Thanks
Sad to see this. If they were only out in the morning and you trained in the afternoon it can mess them up. I would think from a mile they should have been fine. Had to fly the wrong direction for many miles. Maybe a falcon attack to completely scare them. Try to train this group out and get them mixed with other pigeons or they will not be good as yearlings. Maybe several training truck tosses. What happened is a nightmare for all of us.
Yes, I made a big mistake. I should have wait for the next morning and do the toss. Well to late now. Yes, I will train them with other birds to be ready for the old bird season. I just got 2 more this morning. I have now 10 in total out of 25. Thanks
Sorry to hear this buddy. It happens to all of us and we feel your pain. We're always left wondering what happened and what we could have done differently.
Yes, really bad toss. At the end 13 came back.
Yikes. I'm sorry to see that. I would suspect a falcon probably got into them. This happened to me a few times last year.
Yes, somethng bad happened to them
Campeón espero que te hayan llegado unos más. Una pérdida tremenda pero las palomas son una experiencia que nunca se llega a saberlo todo. Sigue adelante!!! El palomo
Negro ese de que línea es?
Asi mismo, nunca se save todo en las palomas. Llegaron 13. La negra es de los black-widows, pero no salio muy buena de cuerpo. Vamos a ver si llega a las carreras
Hermano no se desanime, aveces lo que pasa por algo es … Así que échele ganas no deje de echar ganas lo que se le dedica tiempo de corazón fuerte abrazo
Gracias. Si, voy a seguir volando las q quedan a ver si me da tiempo para volar. gracias
WOW that’s a great loss so close to home.
Yes, really bad
Saludo quintero puede haber pasado algunas cosas por ejemplo el magnetimo de la tierra el sol cambia por la mañana esta de una pocion y por la tarde de otra una corrida de falcon te la saca del aria y recuerda los incendio de canada no te quite ten animo a mi me han pasado muchas cosas en esta larga carrera y sigo de pie suerte y bendiciones
Asi mismo, muchos factores q pudo afectarlas. Definitivamente debi de haberlas soltado por la manana. De errores asi se aprende mucho. Gracias
Oh Jesus. Hopefully they come back. I don’t think 1 mile is too far at all. Nothing you did wrong IMO. I loft fly my birds in the evening and toss in the morning and they’ve been ok. Only time I lost a bird from a 1 mile toss was from a hawk. Man, I really feel for you.
Birds unable to come home from one mile you don’t want to have in your loft. They are crap birds. Waste of your feed, money and time. Hopefully they never come back.
Thanks.
Yes, you are right
@@quinteroloft9530 did any of the birds come back today?
3
Not your fault at all my friend.
My theory would be hawks or picked up by others training or racing.
Im sure you will get some more back but know myself its a horrible experience. We had 21 pigeons out on the night but this is now down to 10 after a week....still awful but youve just got to make a plan and move on.
Keep us updated mate, we really enjoy your videos.
Chin up 😊
Yes, something happened to them. I got 8 back so far and it has been 36 hours. I had a nice group of pigeons. I would probably should have wait a little more for start tossing, but the preassure of the races in just a month. Thanks
Have the young birds been rangeing in and out of the loft for long before this 1 mile toss its really strange that they would get lost,hopefully you get them back good luck,might be an idea to put some gps rings on some on another toss to see where they go
They were flying, but not that long. I probably rush it a little bit. Is the pressure also to have them ready for the season. This year took me longer to start because of the hawks
Los yung bird siempre hay que volarlos en la casa por un sierto tiempo para que se adapten a la jaula y después ir soltándolo 3 millas por lo menos 3 veses del mismo sitio y después ir subiendo le las millas
Si, ya llevaban como 3 semanas volando del palomar. Este toss fue bien corto. Si creo q me precipite un poco, pero bueno a aprender para la proxima. Gracias
@@quinteroloft9530 ya vi el segundo vídeo de las 12 que soltastes hesas llegaron bien que bueno me alegro mucho dale palante y que dios te bendiga yo estava entrenando las mias pero le dieron un virus y seme murieron 22 pichones y me q dan 21 que seven mejor pero nahh esto es hasi
Saludo quintero no es facil ver el palomar con pocas palomas uno se siente fustrado porque el trabajo y dedicacion para criarlos yo creo que fue la hora de suerta habia que sortalos por la mañana animo uno aprende de los errore suerte y bendiciones
Asi mismo. Despues q ya pase por todo el lio de los alcones perderlas ahora no es facil. Creo q fue sortarlas por la tarde, debi haber esperado a la manana siguiente. Saludos
Lo siento mucho por la pérdida, ami me paso hace como un mes perdí como 7 un alcon las atacó creo yo que eso fue lo que te paso
Gracias. Si, los alcones son unos jodedores, y mas cuando son pichones
👍
Thanks
Coño increíble, me cuesta asimilarlo, por bueno hay que estar positivo siempre saludos
Asi mismo, del carajo. Saludos
So sorry in deed, Mr. Quintero. I think there are some factors to be considered next time. For instance, Mr. McLaughlin suggests to basket the youngsters and drive them around for 10-15 minutes for them to get used to the basket and the car. Some can even experience carsick at that point because its their first time, so he also suggests to toss them close or even in front of the house. Secondly, I also consider that, since that was their first toss, the tossing time should have been in the morning. Pigeons in general, but the young birds even more, get really stressed out when they are in the basket. Therefore, I think that tossing them in the morning would have given them the chance to return at least late in the afternoon; they were clearly scared and got out of the basket heading to the opposite direction. Just my observations, no meaning to sound judgmental. I hope to see more of you and your pigeons soon.
This was the 3rd time they were in the basket. The first 2 times I drove them for 15-20 minutes around and I let them go in my backyard. I think the main factor was the afternoon. I should have wait for the next morning to do the toss. So far I have 10 back out of 25. Thanks
@@quinteroloft9530 Nice! 10 is something!
Your time difference theory is probably correct and I'm with Frank on this one.. Getting tossed at 5 pm in the afternoon when they have normally been going out in the early morning can prove confusing to them, especially on their first toss. Everything is new to them to start with and the time difference just adds to their confusion.. Hopefully you get a few birds back in the next couple of days. I'm sure you will. Lets hope anyway.
Yes, that was probably one of the factors. I learned the hard way. Thanks
Sad man .bet they caught up with another team .but thats no distance for those birds .lets hope you more back .very strange?
Yes, really bad, In the end I got 13 back
Omg i got only 14 birds and never toss them yet home you get all them back 👍🏻
Thanks. Just 8 back so far
How far was the first toss?
1 mile
No, this is impossible! How long had they been loft flying? If they were ranging, one mile should not be a big hurdle for them. Also you may want to fly your old birds and the YB may follow them back if they see the OB. One of my very last round YB was spooked by a hawk the other day and came back two days later by following my OB. I think your birds may trickle in in the next couple of days.
Yes, really bad. Just 2 more came this morning after 36 hours. So far I have 10 out of 25. I should probably did a morning toss instead. Thanks
Is not far at all I do one and a half miles for my first toss not there yet but next week I let them out after 45 days lock down .
Is not that you did anything wrong the birds have a hard time navigating all of the flyers have the same problem .
You will get some back I hope .
Many in my club breed over a hundred birds just because of that is something going on with them i don’t think is sickness but birds have hell of a time navigating.
Take care
Yes, probably I should have wait a little more before the 1st toss, but the races are almost here, and I just wanted to rush. It was not a good decision. So far I have 8 back. Really small team to go through all the training process. I will probably not race the young birds
@@quinteroloft9530 not anything you did it was time for them to go to a short toss ,
Everyone have the same problem this pass three years birds get lost for not a good reason.
I most likely I be in your shoes soon 😀
Take care .
@stratos5907 Good luck to you. Thanks
@@quinteroloft9530 You got any more birds home ?
I got 3 this morning. Now I have 11 out of 25
Birds might be mix with another flock or hawk attack??
I lost 20 years ago first toss from 5 miles
Hold it tight.
Yes, something bad happened. In the end, I got 13 back
Hermano herrol garrafal no se puede sortar el primer tos en la tarde no tienen él tiempo suficiente para regresar en casó de estraviarse
Asi mismo. Mala forma de aprender. Tenia q haber esperado a la manana siguiente
Bro it happens to the best of us the birds probably met up with another pack of birds and got draft far away but just breed more and get ready for next year ☝️💪
Yes, that is probably what happened. Thanks
Most will be back
I hope. This morning 2 more came. Now I have 10 out of 25 and it has been 36 hours
@quinteroloft9530 sorry to hear, hopefully more come back. I had some YB come back 3 days later. I think you can expect to see a few more come back but yeah you'll lose some. 25 is your total # of YB or just from that toss? Even if your number is low this year it only takes 1 bird to win the race, maybe those that are left will be superstars! I wish you best of luck on both counts.
Those are all my youngsters this year.
Distance surely wasn’t a factor: One mile is not too far for the first toss. *Maybe* time difference is a factor but I’ve switched from morning to afternoon without problems BUT then at other times have had tosses just like yours where I lose a bunch without a good explanation. Who knows what happens on these smash tosses and the underlying factors leading to them. It’s a sad and frustrating aspect of this sport especially when you get attached to the individual birds. Super sorry my friend!
we all have had bad tosses like that it is just a part of pigeon racing maybe some more will come back
So far 10 back. Thanks
Please make more video about your day routine with a Pinges. How you feed them? And more
Will try
Eso fue los más seguro q chocaron con otro bando y fueron a dar a otro estado
De verdad q es para volverse loco se lo q se siente tener una perdida así
Asi mismo, como para dejar de volar. Pero bueno ya los supere y voy a jugar con estas q quedan y si llegan a las carreras, a lo mejor las corro. Gracias
@@quinteroloft9530 sin miedo al éxito con pocas y buenas se ase un campeón, solo dios sabe si esas q llegaron fueron las campeonas del clud
Mi hermano tu vendes pichones ?
No
That crazy too big loss at sort toss
Yes, really bad
How far you released them as the first time? I released mines half mile first time and couple of times then increased the distance. I had zero losses. This tells you one thing. Poor homing instinct. But look the bright side. Birds unable to come back home from a short distance even young and first time better not to have than to have. Waste of food and time. Look the bright side and be happy. Those 7 probably are the ones you need inside your loft. The rest may be should stay outside the loft. I watch all your videos. Very informative. Greetings from Staten Island.
Yes, you are right. The rest will probably have been lost in the future. This morning came 2 more after 36 hours from the toss. So far I have 10 out of 25. Thanks