"When a plan comes together" You guys are young, but us 80's kids get it. It's an A-TEAM reference. The original actor who played "Starbuck" in the OG, went on to play "Face" in the A-TEAM. "I love it when a plan comes together" was said in literally every single episode. Edit: The last shot of Six and the Admiral in the main season episodes: -Admiral- "Frack you. -Six- "You're not my type".
Damn you guys didn't watch the extended version. It's even better than the broadcast version, and includes the space battle prior to Adama's flashback that answers why he was there alone.
Husker is Bill's call sign. When you mention "that's what they call all the spies. Remember in that other episode?" you were thinking of Bulldog on the comms calling out "Husker Husker Husker this is Bulldog". He was calling out for Bill cause Bill was his commander at the time he went "missing"
@@732ReviewCrew there’s a battlestar galactica game called battlestar galactica deadlock,it’s story is prequel to this show. It’s a turn based ship combat game and essentially you’ll be taking turns at the same time against enemies and the fight plays out between turns. When the game is over then you’ll get a replay of the game but they’re using aggressive camera angles like they do in the shows combat scenes btw on one of story missions you have to escort a ship that’s taking the doctor in the show to sagittaron.
Cain didn't have a President Roslyn to help bring reason to a losing war, we need every human alive so " they can make babies". Adama was about to leave the fleet of civilians too, just didn't strip their resources.
A commander never has a civilian to instill them with common sense. It's no excuse. This would literally never happen in real life and if it did, that officer would be court martialed and without question would be fucked. The military serves the constitution. Period. A lot of morons in real life right now in the USA don't get that part, for example.
You know no matter what, if you're doing weapon drills and your officer asks pointedly if you're sure the gun will fire - you've fucked up and better embrace the suck.
The Razor webisodes that came out shortly before have more of young Adama in the first Cylon War, but not so much that I think you guys need to go back and watch them. The important stuff is in the broadcast version, which I think is the version y'all watched? The uncut version has some more of them as well. Might Be worth revisiting the rest of the webisodes on you r own time, however. They're good. The guy playing young Adama was great casting.
In my opinion this movie is the crown jewel of BSG when it comes to action. They really put the effort in and showed us a lot of cool fights. Some really nice scenes with the Pegasus as well, when they land and it shows the inverted flight deck was really cool. The Pegasus never had Baltar's CNP installed, she was down for a refit and they were planning to install it when the attack happened. I always liked Cain's character, yes she is a hardass and did terrible things but such a good character and played perfectly by Michelle Forbes. Another standout in this was obviously Stephanie Jacobsen ( Kendra Shaw ). She is great in everything I've ever seen her ( Sarah Connor Chronicles stands out ) and I wish she was in the main show an have more screen time but her storyline was neatly wrapped up so its all good. I have to say this version is bad it misses some important stuff. I noticed two scenes missing and I think one of them is really important. 1. An amazing battlescene when the Battlestar Columbia gets destroyed. That's how Adama ends up on a planet, he was in his fighter in a space battle and was chasing a hostile down. Super cool scene I dont know why did they cut it out. th-cam.com/video/IfyNUhomMoU/w-d-xo.html 2. When Cain talks to Shaw about becoming a Razor and that you have to leave people behind in order to move forward there is a flashback to her childhood. It adds contextto some of her decisions ( and another layer ) to her character. th-cam.com/video/PZK6eVACoIg/w-d-xo.html This is the two I've noticed but there might be more ( also not sure if you guys cut it out or it was missing ). Really fun stuff, on to season 4. :)
12:27 The original cylon ship model from the OG show of the 70's and yes...those cylon ships had up to three cylons in a ship. Very different than the newer concept like Scar.
During wartime and facing complete extinction, I'd have done the same thing Cain did. Take whatever and whoever you need. Institute a civilian draft, but i would not have abandoned anyone. Condense them into the Pegasus and a handful of civilian ships, take them with you. And i don't think executing experienced first officers is a good idea. Maybe strip him of rank and throw him in the brig if he refused an order. But Cain should have known better and been tactically aware enough to retreat from that situation in the first place. That's Cains primary issue she's too headstrong and unwilling to see the obvious.
I’m usually pretty ambivalent about extended versions. Most of the time, the cut stuff was cut for a reason, but there are some neat extra things. In this case, the only thing of substance you lose is a bit more context for Cain’s ruthlessness. She knows of what she speaks when she talks about leaving people behind for the sale of survival, and while it doesn’t excuse her actions, it does explain how she is able to continually justify herself in her actions.
It appears you guys have never seen (but heard of) the original 1978 BSG (now also called Classic BSG), which seems understandable since you guys look like Millennials or Gen-Z. Yes, those are the original Raider ships. It's a nice homage. Heck, the whole 2003 show is a nice homage to the original, many classic details made it through to the new version such as "Frak" & the original intro music theme. In fact, the new crescent-shaped Raiders & the human-looking Cylons actually originated from both "Galactica 1980" (failed lower-budget 2nd season of original BSG) & the 1999 concept trailer "The Second Coming" by the original Apollo actor Richard Hatch (who became Zarek here in the 2003 BSG version). Thus these concepts were not new/made for the 2003 version. And if you probably didn't already know, the 2003 reimagined version actually would have never happened if it weren't for Richard Hatch. I think you should do a future reaction to the pilot episode of the original BSG, where the original story basics is the same, an invasion & holocaust by Cylons. 08/09/24
Interestingly, Razor never aired in NZ. I had no clue it even existed until I ordered the DVDs from the States a couple of years later. Talk about a delightful treat! So I've never been invested in the 'where to watch it in the timeline' argument. It adds great depth to the Pegasus storyline that was missing from S2, it gives a great military reason for Bill to have been the commander given the mission that sent Bulldog over the line, and I can assure you that *not* watching it doesn't hurt the main BSG story. This is another time when Tricia Helfer astonishes by being another completely different incarnation of Six. It never fails to blow my mind that before BSG she'd never acted at all. There are 'names' in tv and movies that I don't think could have done such a great job in making these identical people have recognizable individual aspects. A couple of other commenters have said it already, but I'm going to repeat it because it's important. 'Harbinger' is *usually* given a negative overtone, but it isn't inherently a negative word - It's another way of saying messenger (and in fact is used here and there in the Bible to describe Angels), just like 'Herald'. 'Herald' used to be a job title. The person who would 'announce' the arrival of guests, or 'announce' that a party should move to a dining room for a meal during a ball/event. The Hybrid also doesn't use the words death, destruction, glory, home, Earth, or disaster - Starbuck is the announcer of Humanity's "end." - definition tbd. TL:DR The Hybrid's words about Starbuck are more nuanced than assumed.
Husker is Bill Adama's callsign, you see it on the tail of the restored Viper at the start of the miniseries and that Lee then pilots. I've always advocated for watching Razor after 2x17 The Captain's Hand for what you learn from Shaw's conversation with the Hybrid has no context at that point and is so vague it can't give anything away, especially since you'll need to watch S4 to learn more. I do love the portrayal of Cain here, you see that within a working society she's a good if stern commander but once that's taken away and Pegasus is on its own she turns into a psychopath, justifying her killing of her friend and XO, and the murder of civilians as necessary to maintain discipline and to continue fighting. I hope you guys watch the webisodes, they add a lot more context for the last days of the first Cylon war.
"they took our FTL drives" -and then boss crash used his sub light engines to ram the battlestar and rip in a new hole- i have never understood why in these situations people dont step up and do such things when faced with such evils
I always thought everything about the Original Series Cylons we saw (the Centurions and the Raiders) was fantastic and in some ways seeing them move was more terrifying then the new ones.
Great reaction. It's been so long since I watched Razor, I forgot how much I loved both Shaw and Cain as characters. (Also I love the Bobbie Draper comparison!)
This is right place to watch this, it basically aired as the fourth season premiere.. The Raiders here are based on the classic series, and they were crewed by 3 centurions Husker is Adama's callsign (remember back in the miniseries when they pulled out his original viper, it was his, with his callsign on the canopy)
The thing with Razor is that it sets up the plot in season 4, and to tell its story it uses much of the concepts that ware fleshed out in season 3. That is why it is best to watch it between season 3 and 4, and not after Captain's Hand, as its chronologically in the shows timeline.
Yes. I don't understand how people can't grasp that. It's a flashback episode to help set the stage for the coming season as much to as to revisit the Pegasus characters. This is where it should be watched. Especially for first time viewers.
Don`t get me wrong, but Lee is kind of a brat. That being said. I do feel for the guy he is one of the best pilots in the fleet, the guy was a test pilot before this whole mess with the Cylons.
"I hope they're living on their own planet" - How would they get to one, *without* FTL drives? *BITES TONGUE HARD* NOW, the bit from the Hybrid was the "spoiler"- and let's be honest, was it a spoiler? Would it have given anything away...? Yeah, that's why some of us say watch it when it fits in (btw S02E17 & E18)
@@732ReviewCrew Yeah, the longer cut has a much longer flashback to the first Cylon War, where you see the space battle that Husker (Adama) is involved in before he crash-lands on the planet. It's cool if you like that sort of thing (and anyone who made it through three seasons of this show would), but not essential to the plot.
@@732ReviewCrew There are pros and cons to the official release; the extended version has some cool stuff in it, but the extra layer of flashbacks makes the narrative a bit confusing and throwing off the pacing.
One of the things that might inform.ypu guys regarding the Pegasus crew..most of her crew had never seen war outside of a few people ..Cain was one of the few and her trauma influenced her decisions effectively cutting off her own humanity to survive.
45:00 If you re-watch s3e06, you'll be able to understand all the reveals in that episode better, now, and it should answer your question about Leoben.
Season 4 is going to blow your minds every episode. Also, key to note, in the final episode of season 3, Tigh Tyrol Anders and Tory vocally acknowledged being Cylon. Kara did not.
Only one disagreement: Shaw in no way - other than badassery - reminds me of Bobbie Draper, nor the reverse. Oh and Bill Adama is HUSKER! That was established in the miniseries, written on the Viper Mark 2 he used to fly, that Lee flew later. Raptors can be fitted with weapons, like the racks of missiles we've seen before (look sort of like extra wings). Peggy was a true beast. R.I.P.
I think watching it earlier is better. The hybrid is the only spoiiler and with Kara you would be like what does that mean she is the harbinger of death but nothing else. I always said watch it earlier.
I was right yet again... Razor should be watch when in takes place in the show and not after season 4. Dumb people have argue to watch that here for no reason whatsoever.
If you don’t remember how Cain died; Gina was pointing a gun at her, Cain says “Frak you.” Then Gina says “You’re not my type,” and shoots her. It just another knife after Cain had cared about her. Though I didn’t agree with her no mercy approach, I still feel bad for her, she lost her way because she felt betrayed and then cut off the rest of her emotional ties so she would only have revenge to focus on, but I do think she would have changed if she hadn’t been killed off. Having Adama and Rosalin to balance her out, would have opened her eyes to everything she had done.
Nah. She was trash. There could be 40 Adamas and Roslins, Caine doesn't listen to or respect the perspective or validity of anyone elses opinion or experience.
@@LudusAureashe opted against killing Adama and that was with 0 influence. Her main problem is she was so set on revenge because she saw humanity as over. All she needed to see was a path forward and just like Adama she’d have a 180. If she wasn’t killed she likely would have got to that point.
It always bothered me that she killed the lookalike instead of thinking "hang on, does she have a twin onboard". Unless you knew that human cylons were a possibility, it's a bit of a stretch. Hell even wondering if cylons could mimic an existing person would have been a more logical first step.
i never felt bad for her, i never respected her, what she did wasnt just uncalled for, it was disrespectful, as a so called officer she should have known better to be better then some road side bandit boss. she dishonored the uniform and got what she deserved eventually, too bad her trash crew didnt do it sooner, they were just as bad as her, air lock for all of them in my book haha the disrespect was using her authority by commanding him to hand her his gun and then killing him with his own firearm. i cant tell yall how much i couldnt stand her when this aired, i cheered outloud when she got hers hahaha like c[_]CHEEEERS! cheered haha its one thing to be a programed robot i mean soldier, its another to be one who claims to be honorable and are not. i guess i just dont like dishonest people in gen, but those in uniform i hold to higher standard then you or i lol sad part is i disliked the char so much i had a hard time trusting her other chars in movies and shows haha always had that voice telling me "she cant be trusted she will shoot you with your own gun" hahahaha like a distant bad memory or something.
Starbuck is the Harbinger of Death...what could that frakking mean??? No conclusive proof at this point that she is a cylon...or even human...so what else could their be?🫣
Razer is just perfect! in our country, in Bulgaria, it was broadcast as part of the series. excellent decision, without giving anything to the viewers in advance! from your comments it is clear that you still know nothing about the last five, nor the truth about Starbuck - and that's how it should be! once again - kudos to the writers! 🫡🫡🫡🇧🇬
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"When a plan comes together"
You guys are young, but us 80's kids get it. It's an A-TEAM reference. The original actor who played "Starbuck" in the OG, went on to play "Face" in the A-TEAM.
"I love it when a plan comes together" was said in literally every single episode.
Edit: The last shot of Six and the Admiral in the main season episodes:
-Admiral- "Frack you.
-Six- "You're not my type".
Husker is Bill's Adama callsign
FYI: Although the song 'All Along the Watchtower' is heavily identified with Jimi Hendrix, it was only a cover. It is in fact a Bob Dylan song.
The Double facepalm of Joe and Mike made me cackle
32:36
It was great
I thought I missed that bc I was reading and typing comments, but I turned just in time to see it LOL!
Damn you guys didn't watch the extended version. It's even better than the broadcast version, and includes the space battle prior to Adama's flashback that answers why he was there alone.
Husker is Bill's call sign. When you mention "that's what they call all the spies. Remember in that other episode?" you were thinking of Bulldog on the comms calling out "Husker Husker Husker this is Bulldog". He was calling out for Bill cause Bill was his commander at the time he went "missing"
You're correct! I did miss remember
@@732ReviewCrew there’s a battlestar galactica game called battlestar galactica deadlock,it’s story is prequel to this show. It’s a turn based ship combat game and essentially you’ll be taking turns at the same time against enemies and the fight plays out between turns. When the game is over then you’ll get a replay of the game but they’re using aggressive camera angles like they do in the shows combat scenes btw on one of story missions you have to escort a ship that’s taking the doctor in the show to sagittaron.
@@732ReviewCrew🔔 Adama went to the University Of Nebraskalon. 🤣
"You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace" has lived rent-free in my head for 15 years
“They must not follow her”…
Well…that changes things 😏
Cain didn't have a President Roslyn to help bring reason to a losing war, we need every human alive so " they can make babies". Adama was about to leave the fleet of civilians too, just didn't strip their resources.
A commander never has a civilian to instill them with common sense. It's no excuse. This would literally never happen in real life and if it did, that officer would be court martialed and without question would be fucked. The military serves the constitution. Period. A lot of morons in real life right now in the USA don't get that part, for example.
I'm not sure Cain wouldn't have just lined her up and shot her too. Once the bombs fell, I don't think Cain would have listened to anyone.
@@TreyBlythe Very true especially since she shot her XO who was like one of her best mates!
But still...I'm an optimist!LoL😊
You know no matter what, if you're doing weapon drills and your officer asks pointedly if you're sure the gun will fire - you've fucked up and better embrace the suck.
20:56 This short scene with Apollo and Shaw I swear, how Lee talks about making hard calls, he sounds just like his dad!
"Sometimes ya gotta roll the hard six"
🔔 TRC @ 12:20 ➡ Those are nothing less than the ORIGINAL CYLONS & SHIPS from the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galactica! (1978)
Oh. Those round Raiders are the OG BSG 1970s raiders. They do have a pilot.
In fact, 3 centurions.
The Razor webisodes that came out shortly before have more of young Adama in the first Cylon War, but not so much that I think you guys need to go back and watch them. The important stuff is in the broadcast version, which I think is the version y'all watched? The uncut version has some more of them as well. Might Be worth revisiting the rest of the webisodes on you r own time, however. They're good. The guy playing young Adama was great casting.
In my opinion this movie is the crown jewel of BSG when it comes to action. They really put the effort in and showed us a lot of cool fights. Some really nice scenes with the Pegasus as well, when they land and it shows the inverted flight deck was really cool. The Pegasus never had Baltar's CNP installed, she was down for a refit and they were planning to install it when the attack happened. I always liked Cain's character, yes she is a hardass and did terrible things but such a good character and played perfectly by Michelle Forbes. Another standout in this was obviously Stephanie Jacobsen ( Kendra Shaw ). She is great in everything I've ever seen her ( Sarah Connor Chronicles stands out ) and I wish she was in the main show an have more screen time but her storyline was neatly wrapped up so its all good.
I have to say this version is bad it misses some important stuff. I noticed two scenes missing and I think one of them is really important.
1. An amazing battlescene when the Battlestar Columbia gets destroyed. That's how Adama ends up on a planet, he was in his fighter in a space battle and was chasing a hostile down. Super cool scene I dont know why did they cut it out.
th-cam.com/video/IfyNUhomMoU/w-d-xo.html
2. When Cain talks to Shaw about becoming a Razor and that you have to leave people behind in order to move forward there is a flashback to her childhood. It adds contextto some of her decisions ( and another layer ) to her character.
th-cam.com/video/PZK6eVACoIg/w-d-xo.html
This is the two I've noticed but there might be more ( also not sure if you guys cut it out or it was missing ).
Really fun stuff, on to season 4. :)
12:27 The original cylon ship model from the OG show of the 70's and yes...those cylon ships had up to three cylons in a ship. Very different than the newer concept like Scar.
def a classic look. i like both and how they used them differently in this remake
@@CrashCraftLabs I also miss how they sound, like the sound of their red light eye moving back and forth.☺️
During wartime and facing complete extinction, I'd have done the same thing Cain did. Take whatever and whoever you need. Institute a civilian draft, but i would not have abandoned anyone. Condense them into the Pegasus and a handful of civilian ships, take them with you. And i don't think executing experienced first officers is a good idea. Maybe strip him of rank and throw him in the brig if he refused an order. But Cain should have known better and been tactically aware enough to retreat from that situation in the first place. That's Cains primary issue she's too headstrong and unwilling to see the obvious.
I liked Mikey's robot imitation at 26:34.
Something like, "infiltrate friend group."
Remember Leoben said way back in Season 1 EP8 that Starbuck would lead them to earth - that it was her destiny.
Admiral Cain's elite squad were called Razors.
I’m usually pretty ambivalent about extended versions. Most of the time, the cut stuff was cut for a reason, but there are some neat extra things. In this case, the only thing of substance you lose is a bit more context for Cain’s ruthlessness. She knows of what she speaks when she talks about leaving people behind for the sale of survival, and while it doesn’t excuse her actions, it does explain how she is able to continually justify herself in her actions.
Joe has become the King of the logical leap. His "If this, then that" logic trees are WILD with assumptions.
🔔 Bill "Husker" Adama went to the University Of Nebraskalon. 🤣
Last time I was this early Ad. Caine was just an ensign.
Before she joined the Maquis?
33:20 Death & Evil isnt the same thing though. He just said she is the harbinger of death. Harbinger is something that foreshadows a future event.
And end doesn't always mean death either.
It appears you guys have never seen (but heard of) the original 1978 BSG (now also called Classic BSG), which seems understandable since you guys look like Millennials or Gen-Z. Yes, those are the original Raider ships. It's a nice homage. Heck, the whole 2003 show is a nice homage to the original, many classic details made it through to the new version such as "Frak" & the original intro music theme. In fact, the new crescent-shaped Raiders & the human-looking Cylons actually originated from both "Galactica 1980" (failed lower-budget 2nd season of original BSG) & the 1999 concept trailer "The Second Coming" by the original Apollo actor Richard Hatch (who became Zarek here in the 2003 BSG version). Thus these concepts were not new/made for the 2003 version. And if you probably didn't already know, the 2003 reimagined version actually would have never happened if it weren't for Richard Hatch. I think you should do a future reaction to the pilot episode of the original BSG, where the original story basics is the same, an invasion & holocaust by Cylons.
08/09/24
Interestingly, Razor never aired in NZ. I had no clue it even existed until I ordered the DVDs from the States a couple of years later. Talk about a delightful treat! So I've never been invested in the 'where to watch it in the timeline' argument. It adds great depth to the Pegasus storyline that was missing from S2, it gives a great military reason for Bill to have been the commander given the mission that sent Bulldog over the line, and I can assure you that *not* watching it doesn't hurt the main BSG story.
This is another time when Tricia Helfer astonishes by being another completely different incarnation of Six. It never fails to blow my mind that before BSG she'd never acted at all. There are 'names' in tv and movies that I don't think could have done such a great job in making these identical people have recognizable individual aspects.
A couple of other commenters have said it already, but I'm going to repeat it because it's important. 'Harbinger' is *usually* given a negative overtone, but it isn't inherently a negative word - It's another way of saying messenger (and in fact is used here and there in the Bible to describe Angels), just like 'Herald'. 'Herald' used to be a job title. The person who would 'announce' the arrival of guests, or 'announce' that a party should move to a dining room for a meal during a ball/event. The Hybrid also doesn't use the words death, destruction, glory, home, Earth, or disaster - Starbuck is the announcer of Humanity's "end." - definition tbd.
TL:DR The Hybrid's words about Starbuck are more nuanced than assumed.
Husker is Bill Adama's callsign, you see it on the tail of the restored Viper at the start of the miniseries and that Lee then pilots.
I've always advocated for watching Razor after 2x17 The Captain's Hand for what you learn from Shaw's conversation with the Hybrid has no context at that point and is so vague it can't give anything away, especially since you'll need to watch S4 to learn more.
I do love the portrayal of Cain here, you see that within a working society she's a good if stern commander but once that's taken away and Pegasus is on its own she turns into a psychopath, justifying her killing of her friend and XO, and the murder of civilians as necessary to maintain discipline and to continue fighting.
I hope you guys watch the webisodes, they add a lot more context for the last days of the first Cylon war.
"they took our FTL drives" -and then boss crash used his sub light engines to ram the battlestar and rip in a new hole- i have never understood why in these situations people dont step up and do such things when faced with such evils
Who knows how brave any of us will be when we have a gun pointed at our heads, until it happens...
I always thought everything about the Original Series Cylons we saw (the Centurions and the Raiders) was fantastic and in some ways seeing them move was more terrifying then the new ones.
Great reaction. It's been so long since I watched Razor, I forgot how much I loved both Shaw and Cain as characters. (Also I love the Bobbie Draper comparison!)
This is right place to watch this, it basically aired as the fourth season premiere..
The Raiders here are based on the classic series, and they were crewed by 3 centurions
Husker is Adama's callsign (remember back in the miniseries when they pulled out his original viper, it was his, with his callsign on the canopy)
The thing with Razor is that it sets up the plot in season 4, and to tell its story it uses much of the concepts that ware fleshed out in season 3. That is why it is best to watch it between season 3 and 4, and not after Captain's Hand, as its chronologically in the shows timeline.
Yes. I don't understand how people can't grasp that. It's a flashback episode to help set the stage for the coming season as much to as to revisit the Pegasus characters. This is where it should be watched. Especially for first time viewers.
🔔 TRC: YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!
Don`t get me wrong, but Lee is kind of a brat. That being said. I do feel for the guy he is one of the best pilots in the fleet, the guy was a test pilot before this whole mess with the Cylons.
A brat his father divorced his mother leaving lee and his brother with an alcoholic abusive mother...
Husker is Commander Adama's Viper call sign
"I hope they're living on their own planet" - How would they get to one, *without* FTL drives?
*BITES TONGUE HARD*
NOW, the bit from the Hybrid was the "spoiler"- and let's be honest, was it a spoiler? Would it have given anything away...? Yeah, that's why some of us say watch it when it fits in (btw S02E17 & E18)
Where is the scene of Adama fighting in space during the first war? Was there a different cut of this film?
We had the blu ray dvd which apparently had the standard edition and not that cut sadly
@@732ReviewCrew Yeah, the longer cut has a much longer flashback to the first Cylon War, where you see the space battle that Husker (Adama) is involved in before he crash-lands on the planet. It's cool if you like that sort of thing (and anyone who made it through three seasons of this show would), but not essential to the plot.
@@732ReviewCrew Didn't see any of Cain as a child with her sister in your edit. Were those sequences in the version you watched?
They were not! Apparently we had a standard edition dvd
@@732ReviewCrew There are pros and cons to the official release; the extended version has some cool stuff in it, but the extra layer of flashbacks makes the narrative a bit confusing and throwing off the pacing.
One of the things that might inform.ypu guys regarding the Pegasus crew..most of her crew had never seen war outside of a few people ..Cain was one of the few and her trauma influenced her decisions effectively cutting off her own humanity to survive.
Classic Centurions, Classic Raiders. 🤘😎👌
TRC needs to watch classic BßG.
45:00 If you re-watch s3e06, you'll be able to understand all the reveals in that episode better, now, and it should answer your question about Leoben.
Yes this movie belongs between 2 and 3 like they aired it. This isn't Firefly. It aired in the order that the creators intended. Lol
Season 4 is going to blow your minds every episode. Also, key to note, in the final episode of season 3, Tigh Tyrol Anders and Tory vocally acknowledged being Cylon. Kara did not.
Uh.......Shaw is nothing like Draper. Draper would have never executed those people.
Only one disagreement: Shaw in no way - other than badassery - reminds me of Bobbie Draper, nor the reverse.
Oh and Bill Adama is HUSKER! That was established in the miniseries, written on the Viper Mark 2 he used to fly, that Lee flew later.
Raptors can be fitted with weapons, like the racks of missiles we've seen before (look sort of like extra wings).
Peggy was a true beast. R.I.P.
I think watching it earlier is better. The hybrid is the only spoiiler and with Kara you would be like what does that mean she is the harbinger of death but nothing else. I always said watch it earlier.
.......⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️........
I was right yet again...
Razor should be watch when in takes place in the show and not after season 4.
Dumb people have argue to watch that here for no reason whatsoever.
And aside from fitting very well where it takes place…putting it here delays the season 4 cliffhanger resolution
If you don’t remember how Cain died; Gina was pointing a gun at her, Cain says “Frak you.” Then Gina says “You’re not my type,” and shoots her. It just another knife after Cain had cared about her. Though I didn’t agree with her no mercy approach, I still feel bad for her, she lost her way because she felt betrayed and then cut off the rest of her emotional ties so she would only have revenge to focus on, but I do think she would have changed if she hadn’t been killed off. Having Adama and Rosalin to balance her out, would have opened her eyes to everything she had done.
Nah. She was trash. There could be 40 Adamas and Roslins, Caine doesn't listen to or respect the perspective or validity of anyone elses opinion or experience.
@@LudusAureashe opted against killing Adama and that was with 0 influence. Her main problem is she was so set on revenge because she saw humanity as over. All she needed to see was a path forward and just like Adama she’d have a 180. If she wasn’t killed she likely would have got to that point.
It always bothered me that she killed the lookalike instead of thinking "hang on, does she have a twin onboard".
Unless you knew that human cylons were a possibility, it's a bit of a stretch.
Hell even wondering if cylons could mimic an existing person would have been a more logical first step.
i never felt bad for her, i never respected her, what she did wasnt just uncalled for, it was disrespectful, as a so called officer she should have known better to be better then some road side bandit boss. she dishonored the uniform and got what she deserved eventually, too bad her trash crew didnt do it sooner, they were just as bad as her, air lock for all of them in my book haha the disrespect was using her authority by commanding him to hand her his gun and then killing him with his own firearm. i cant tell yall how much i couldnt stand her when this aired, i cheered outloud when she got hers hahaha like c[_]CHEEEERS! cheered haha
its one thing to be a programed robot i mean soldier, its another to be one who claims to be honorable and are not. i guess i just dont like dishonest people in gen, but those in uniform i hold to higher standard then you or i lol
sad part is i disliked the char so much i had a hard time trusting her other chars in movies and shows haha always had that voice telling me "she cant be trusted she will shoot you with your own gun" hahahaha like a distant bad memory or something.
Ah your wit is so cutting ;)
Starbuck is the Harbinger of Death...what could that frakking mean??? No conclusive proof at this point that she is a cylon...or even human...so what else could their be?🫣
Razer is just perfect! in our country, in Bulgaria, it was broadcast as part of the series. excellent decision, without giving anything to the viewers in advance! from your comments it is clear that you still know nothing about the last five, nor the truth about Starbuck - and that's how it should be! once again - kudos to the writers! 🫡🫡🫡🇧🇬