First Look! Classic Everquest-Like MMO

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  • I was lucky enough to get to play the in-development MMO Monsters and Memories over their 34 hour test and I came away from it with a few strong feelings.
    1. This game is making tremendous progress
    2. This game is also very very classically inspired. In some ways it feels more like Everquest than, well...Everquest.
    I was joined on my adventures by none other than ‪@MitchManix‬ something I'm thankful of because this game really shines when you're social and grouping.
    It also helps that he was a nice speedbump for the mobs so I could get away. Thanks, Mitch.
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  • @HeyKarakItsAli
    @HeyKarakItsAli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Wooo love the video. Thanks for covering our game! Hope you had fun!

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Of course! Thank you so much for the opportunity. I had a great time.

  • @bromharlock7992
    @bromharlock7992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Holding my breath, but I am DYING to play this. Fennin Ro, represent!

    • @hasbinbad
      @hasbinbad 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      torvonnilous, but whatever

  • @raf0419
    @raf0419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Man I'm so excited. This is exactly what I want. Just a new EQ with a fresh coat of paint.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Dwarf Bard alone is worth it tbh.

    • @mjolnir3309
      @mjolnir3309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Dwarf beard you mean 😂

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mjolnir3309 dwarf bard with a glorious beard.

    • @MrPook2k
      @MrPook2k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve been saying exactly this for a while now. They can definitely count on my purchase. 👍

    • @shaunhall6834
      @shaunhall6834 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same! ❤

  • @Adam-kn5lk
    @Adam-kn5lk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Exactly the mmo I was looking for. Thank you to creaters of Monsters and Memories and thank you to create of this video!

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're a great team over there at Monsters and Memories. Definitely check them out on their website. Their tests have been open to the public. Their discord is probably the best place to get any info on future tests. Cheers!

  • @michaelpants
    @michaelpants 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    @redbeardflynn Your coverage of M&M is top notch. Thank you for highlighting the magic. This game is definitely passing the vibe check. I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words!

  • @EgoAnnihilation
    @EgoAnnihilation 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, after being so dissapointed with Pantheon and waiting a decade, I am STOKED for this game. I had never even heard of it! THIS IS WHAT MY HEART DESIRES!!

  • @youMatterItDoesGetBetter
    @youMatterItDoesGetBetter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait, a Pantheon game that's actually being developed? Mind blowing.

  • @mattp722
    @mattp722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this @Redbeardflynn. My favorite videos are those that talk about the game they are playing, for which this video is glorious. Great job of showing off parts of the game while talking about what is going on. I would much rather watch this 40 times rather than a 9 hour video where most of the gameplay is standing in the same exact spot, talking about *other* games. So cheers for this.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You made my week with this comment, thank you so much!

  • @JamesNoms
    @JamesNoms 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a lifelong (On and Off since beta in 1999) EQ player I was watching Shawn when he first started this project and then I kinda fell of watching his streams to great to see how far it has come.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's come a long way even since the first stress test I got to play!

  • @delamota9753
    @delamota9753 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never thought I'd be excited for a game release that makes an effort to go back to 90s style mmo gaming. I'm salivating at the potential

  • @_DeeJay_
    @_DeeJay_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We had a blast running through the dungeon with yall! Hope to see you next play test! -Amasis

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much for hanging out with us!

  • @Complication84
    @Complication84 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been an old Evercrackhead since 99'. This is cool to see, but my old jaded heart of coal can't help but feel like it won't amount to much other than a jankier version of EQ launch. I hope they can make it something special.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly skepticism is pretty par for the course in MMOs these days. There's something to be said for setting your expectations low, makes it easier to be surprised and less likely to be let down.

  • @mattp722
    @mattp722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Mitch Manix dying sound brings me great joy.

  • @Fanelan053
    @Fanelan053 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Always good to see fresh EQ type content!!

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It feels *very* much like EQ in the beginning

  • @rustysarkela7754
    @rustysarkela7754 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This looks so fun I hope to be a part of the early years of this game

  • @matthewhodge7351
    @matthewhodge7351 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This games about to explode❤❤ cant wait for this to succeed and shake our modern gaming philosophy at its core. Cheers M&M, doin gods work. And also, Cheers Flynn

  • @MrDavowade
    @MrDavowade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    thx for covering if this game stays on track im totally playing

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's been making some big moves over the last half year+ I'm excited for what they will do in 2024.

  • @brindle21
    @brindle21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the video, great channel, thanks! 'An arse with legs' made me laugh 🤣

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You've got to check out Mitchmanix if you haven't yet. He was the one who said it was an "arse with legs" and he's incredibly funny.

  • @mercster
    @mercster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It looks cool, but I would tell everyone to temper expectations... getting something up like this, while impressive, is one thing; developing an entire world to explore using this tech is another. Thanks bro.

    • @lifewater
      @lifewater 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ive been following them for a while now and im impressed. I do worry about end game content though. Not so much that it’s not there but their stance on it felt unclear. I’m interested in seeing what happens when this game starts getting funding

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm still not 100% certain where they want to go with the game, it feels like they're still straddling the line between passion project and future MMO but they're showing us a lot and not having an NDA is very nice. The last I saw they were still in the proof of concept phase of development.

    • @lifewater
      @lifewater 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redbeardflynn Yep I get the same vibe. And maybe I'm biased, but the way I see it, if they want the buy-in of the most dedicated EQ players on P99, they will need to have a substantial plan for raiding. As those will be the people paying monthly, possibly on multiple accounts, to push forward. But as a former raider, thats just one way of looking at it.

  • @Bradgilliswhammyman
    @Bradgilliswhammyman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    corpse runs completely change the group make up and what challlenges people are willing to try in a MMO. Bards, Rogues, Necromancers actually have a lot of utility in a MMO with that ruleset.

  • @Merknilash
    @Merknilash หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's incredible how well this game is coming along - far better than my expectations.
    It looks like they're really capturing the feeling of the original EQ - particularly those first 30-40 levels of classic.
    The movement and engine is looking really great, and captures that feeling really well.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm chomping at the bit to get another stress test and jump in again and see what they've been working on.

  • @maxwellspiegel5985
    @maxwellspiegel5985 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am SO excited for Monsters and Memories. Currently playing Project Quarm as my first experience into a P99 like EverQuest and I am absolutely loving it! I even did a stream on Twitch examining the game's environment art/level design and gameplay to spread the word on what we can learn from classic games such as EverQuest.

  • @computergamingyesterday
    @computergamingyesterday 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gave the test a try and had a blast, even though I could only play for a few hours and got to a mere level 3. Super strong EQ vibes with just enough modernization to make it more enjoyable on modern PCs.

  • @burnedraventales6030
    @burnedraventales6030 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this seems to be one of the better looking mmos from a small team. Im guessing this is still very early in the games life? It really be like one of those rags to riches stories for them if they get it right.

    • @zukansculpts
      @zukansculpts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Still very early yeah. Only three years in so far.

  • @andrewg9107
    @andrewg9107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm definitely interested! I just want it to be a modern EQ with better graphics and animations than EQ and a focus on difficulty and group play

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's been a lot of fun whenever I've gotten to play. Excited to see what else they show in the comings months.

  • @internet_tough_guy_
    @internet_tough_guy_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am actually excited for this.

  • @padastheranger
    @padastheranger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video! Loved it! And that dungeon goes much deeper than that >:)

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh no...that wasn't the bottom?

  • @Cyber_Nomad01
    @Cyber_Nomad01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We ended up playing 24 hours of the 34 hour test. Great game.

  • @abarasabwehttam
    @abarasabwehttam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video my friend! The game looks awesome! When you said about group dungeon content at very early level, Embers Adrift is like that. By level 2-3 you are already getting into group content and was a lot of fun!

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I plan to give Embers a try this year, somewhere in this ridiculous schedule of mine. Thank you for the kind words!

    • @abarasabwehttam
      @abarasabwehttam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Redbeardflynn I know Nathan had been playing it some recently but not sure if he still is.
      We were doing the Friday Night EQ P99 stream but that kind of went by the wayside when PQ came out.
      Embers had huge potential but you capped out at like level 20ish after release and we were starved for content and a huge majority bailed on it. I had 3 toons about level 20 and lost interest.
      I havent got back into it, even though I should/could have when Nathan did.

  • @viracocha03
    @viracocha03 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I cannot wait to be able to play this.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Keep an eye on their twitter, discord, and youtube. They'll announce stress tests there and they're usually open to everyone.

    • @viracocha03
      @viracocha03 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redbeardflynn just joined the discord. Looking forward to next test

  • @Bradgilliswhammyman
    @Bradgilliswhammyman หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg this looks so much fun....while I"ve been playing on Progression servers, looking forward to Teek that releases in a a couple weeks, I'd def play this too when it releases. My original server on original EQ back in 2002 was Morden Rasp.

  • @zukansculpts
    @zukansculpts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video dude thanks! Glad you got some time in on this past test. :D

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, Zukan. Finally got down into the dungeon!

  • @Morraak
    @Morraak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I played it too, I enjoyed it a lot! Looking forward to when it comes out.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely has an old school feel. I'll be curious to see where it goes. And rhe team working on it are very nice

  • @JodiMcClure
    @JodiMcClure 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't wait to play this!!

  • @amalgam5107
    @amalgam5107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I cant wait to play more!

  • @JamesNoms
    @JamesNoms 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The question is... do Snakes kick........

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A very good question. I should have looked!

    • @EricSoderberg-zb4nb
      @EricSoderberg-zb4nb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They do indeed

    • @zukansculpts
      @zukansculpts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not only do they kick, but they have an animation for it.

  • @bigsmk8424
    @bigsmk8424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beardal 2023-2023 had me cracking up. This was a very entertaining video.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha so glad you liked that part. Thank you for saying so!

  • @ahabwolf7580
    @ahabwolf7580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks neat.

  • @RenlangRen
    @RenlangRen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For over two decades now my friends and I have wanted a new EverQuest.
    I am so excited for M&M. I could finally be coming.

  • @Faith_Risen
    @Faith_Risen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This game is more EQ than EQ is

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It honestly does feel very much like early EQ at this stage.

  • @joshthompson8410
    @joshthompson8410 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a necro, i had bags full of bones so i could summon my pets
    Loved my time with Evercrack

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really need to try necro next playtest.

  • @belgianpyro2299
    @belgianpyro2299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    he really has the voice of a dwarf too 🤣

  • @einer1314
    @einer1314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the game I've been waiting for. Got some of my non-EQ friends to play last weekend.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did they enjoy it? I hope they had fun!

    • @einer1314
      @einer1314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redbeardflynn They liked it ok, which was nice cause the one had a terrible time during the stress test.

  • @egan12
    @egan12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm really excited about this one too. I love old school style MMOs with a little bit of legit QOL sprinkled in. Not to be read as "making it easy". The only thing I'm going to say that'll probably get me a lot of hate is this. While I love the feel of exploring and I absolutely feel like that's stripped out of modern MMOs, I hate not having a map. I mean I don't expect a full map as soon as I come into a zone but like let me buy them or have a cartography skill or something, just something so I can track where I've been and where I am in game. It sucks doing it on paper outside of the game. It detracts from the immersive quality these kinds of devs work so hard to foster when you have to constantly look away from the game. Just my two cents but all in all I love what I'm seeing and the objective way you cover these topics.

  • @paulpeterson8593
    @paulpeterson8593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was only able to play for like 30 minutes but it was a glorious 30 minutes.

  • @nfefx
    @nfefx 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15:48 cleric has coma-like reaction speed lol

  • @shaunhall6834
    @shaunhall6834 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shut up and take my gold coins!

  • @StaticGroupLive
    @StaticGroupLive 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome - Draq

  • @RavenCroftLoft
    @RavenCroftLoft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is easily going to be the next WoW that really changes perspective on the current state of mmos. Keep in mind the only reason why mmos were so small in the days of EQ was because of marketing limitations. These guys are going to really shake things up.

  • @vander1521
    @vander1521 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Had me laughing.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This comment made my week, Cheers.

  • @ZinoviyaUlyanov
    @ZinoviyaUlyanov 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG walking beard man fist!!

  • @geekmastermind
    @geekmastermind 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "A shifty gnome."
    I totally misread that initially... 🤣

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were the only one willing to buy my useless loot, too!

    • @egan12
      @egan12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you hadn't commented this I would have. I absolutely read it that way too.

  • @themessy001
    @themessy001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For those of us who love EQ, this game will be pretty great. Everyone else is going to try it and just shit all over it. I had to work for the last 34 hour test so I didnt get to play but even the previous test you could tell it was going in the right direction. Probably going to be a few years still but I am looking forward to MnM.

  • @andrewblevins4591
    @andrewblevins4591 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and looks like an amazing time. When do you think that game will have an open beta?

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed the video! They've run sporadic tests that are open to everyone and their most recent update on January 7th, 2024 said they'd be hosting more tests in 2024. If they announce one, I'll be sure to either post about it on the community tab or make a video but you can also follow their youtube and/or join their discord for more timely updates.

  • @EsrohNchainS
    @EsrohNchainS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like watching this video

  • @Inmate533
    @Inmate533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did you make a guild? I was looking for the way to make one, but only saw commands to do things once the guild is already created.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I actually didn't, we just got invited to it.

  • @mgaming7
    @mgaming7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good video

  • @EXP_Jenova
    @EXP_Jenova 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok what's the song that plays around 4:30 cause that sht slaps lol

  • @QuilEkras
    @QuilEkras 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love mmos. I'd try it, but I doubt it'll bear Project Gorgon (which I highly recommend). Free demo on steam.

  • @hootsmun
    @hootsmun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have some of my best MMO memories from EQ so I’m really keen to try this out. I’m pretty sure modern MMOs have ruined me for something as hardcore as this though. I wonder how much of a sub they are going to charge 🤔

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It definitely takes re-arranging your mindset from playing a modern MMO to this.

  • @Omniaverage
    @Omniaverage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comment!

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The algorithm thanks you

  • @drewbacot1739
    @drewbacot1739 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love old school MMO gameplay but damn! Why the need for old school UI?

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      My guess is placeholder. Still early dev.

  • @KraxThebOld
    @KraxThebOld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to play! Please! Take my Money!

  • @marzix427
    @marzix427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pass. Not interested in losing my gear at the bottom of a dungeon. Lose xp? Levels? Time? Sure. Gear? Pass.

    • @ptkelly80
      @ptkelly80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. I played EQ before and during the PoP era, and it was fun, but I just don't have the time to dedicate to such a hardcore style of game anymore. The nostalgia of M&M is great, but dying in the dark to a rat at level 1 and not being able to find my corpse during one of the tests a few weeks ago made me realize it's just not for me anymore.

  • @raeshalgoul8505
    @raeshalgoul8505 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍✌

  • @Vaayne1
    @Vaayne1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so i looked into this game but when i tried to install it windows told me it was a virus so idk if i should trust it or not

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think in general windows is going to do that with anything that's an "unknown publisher."

  • @boot-strapper
    @boot-strapper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tbh p99 is a bit faster, but this game is still being built.

  • @Dann-qp2uw
    @Dann-qp2uw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My problem with these old mmos is the emphasis on only fighting one enemy at a time. Which makes tanking and healing an absolute bore. Even watching Nathan’s hours of pantheon coverage it’s almost all solo pulls and that’s in a fing group of 6 people. Snooore

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that's what I miss most, tbh. The "lets pull 20 mobs at once" MMOs feel too much like Diablo which makes the entire combat system feel boring to me. I think it's a preference thing.

  • @slickwilly4613
    @slickwilly4613 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if I own a computer slow enough to play this game

  • @xxrfmxx
    @xxrfmxx หลายเดือนก่อน

    just got a email from this game 15 a month to play it not sure

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah they announced their early access plans a while back. Idea is no box price no in game shop, 15 a month. But that's still a ways off. 2026 I believe

    • @xxrfmxx
      @xxrfmxx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redbeardflynn true in on this stuff more them me

  • @rayharnes4303
    @rayharnes4303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol Mind the gap....

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha I'm glad someone appreciated that.

  • @Zeriel00
    @Zeriel00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ever Quest 2 released in 2004 and it looked better than this. I don't see how this would ever catch on 20 years later and I played the original EQ from Shadows of Luclin.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't believe that's the goal.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shakeitoff1000 I'm not their marketing department 😅 but I imagine it's people that want something like the classic mmos but new. Like Everquest.

  • @RavenCroftLoft
    @RavenCroftLoft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All these MMOs make scamtheon look even more wack.

  • @AnthonyClarkPaladin
    @AnthonyClarkPaladin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Naked corpse run = no

  • @SoundEssenceZ
    @SoundEssenceZ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i dunno why for these developers "classic" means: Looks and plays like shit.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not for you and that's totally fine, but its a definite style both in play and graphics.

  • @user-di8or3fk7n
    @user-di8or3fk7n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    99 games like this have no reason to exist....they do not have the player population to even be mmos. Its not worth a players time to invest in these games as there will be little to no community...thats the point of an mmo, community

    • @raf0419
      @raf0419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I disagree. Project1999, an EQ classic server from 24 years ago, has a population big enough to support it.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      An MMO doesn't need a million players to have community, doesn't even need 100k. Much of what determines community in an MMO boils down to mechanics, server size, scope and world size. WoW changed perception of what made an MMO successful in 2004 when their numbers bumped up expectations by orders of magnitude resulting in the closure of several good MMOs. I believe we're correcting from that and MMOs can exist with more realistic expectations of player population and build specifically around those expectations.

    • @mireadur
      @mireadur 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      EQ servers back in the day were 2000-2500 players. And it trully felt like living a big town. Most of the people you didnt even know.

    • @user-di8or3fk7n
      @user-di8or3fk7n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Redbeardflynn I just think its nostalgia that keeps people to remake older style mmos. I got my start in UO, EQ, and SWG years ago....and I just don't see these side projects adding anything new to the industry. Each their own, but I do not like these old-style games as they do not respect my time now as priorities have changed. Personally I do not like WOW as its far to commercialized and built around max profitability/retention not 'gameplay'. All these low-polly games just do not have enogh fleshed out systems or player progression or QOL servies to keep players...its why their is a failed pile of crowed funded games just like this one. Its ok to 'like' something but that does not make them objectively good.

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@user-di8or3fk7n oh for sure there's nostalgia but there's also a market for this specific playstyle, even the graphics. Just like there's a market for action mmos, pvp mmos, single player story mmos...etc. I think in 2004 mmos tried to homogenize and become wow which stifled genre building. We might be heading toward more clear playstyle genres in mmos over the last decade or so.

  • @EricAbroad
    @EricAbroad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    while I feel bad for how Pantheon turned out, I am SO relieved that this game is looking so promising! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @Redbeardflynn
      @Redbeardflynn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm thrilled for both. The opportunities I've had to play each one at different levels has been exactly what I've been hoping for in MMORPGs for a decade.