Best video yet featuring this bike. I currently ride a 2021 KTM 450 xcf and this bike is on my radar because of the KYB suspension and wide ratio gearbox.
Thanks! I get it. I did a KYB spring conversion on my 350. Thought about another KTM but going 450. The KYBs and the rave reviews from the YZ450F swayed me to trying the Yamaha.
@@JRideRR I been riding 450s for many years and now on 2024 ktm 300exc and i can tell you what a bike i love it got all the power you need light and nimble with e start efi i just got to dial the suspension soon nice video
Most useful, honest, real life demonstration of a new bike model I have ever seen on the TH-cams. I’m an old dude with a hooligan complex and this makes me fear owning one just as much as i want to get one to replace…a drz400S. lol. Subscribed. But I could tune a ‘vet’ map couldn’t I?
I’ve got the 2023 we250f and the bike is Awsome i definitely recommend buying one Yamaha WRs are one of the most reliable bikes on the market today financing is cheap too 150. By weekly tops . I’m 48 years old and just getting back into riding hard induro exactly what this video is as long as you’ve got all your protection gear on it’s pretty safe . I’d say the 450 is a bit too big of an engine. The other day while riding I got tossed up out of a rut right into a tree and it hooked my right foot and twisted it backwards I was luck I had my boots on cause that would of broke my leg other wise. Yha these bikes are nimble and fast they love being in those upper rpm’s . Love it Brother I never stop riding bikes now that I’m back on one .
I still can’t believe the lack of content on this bike, this is the best review of the 24 yz450fx. I wish I could like this vid more than once lol. Thank you.
16:15 - As a PNW transplant to FL, that instant torque off the bottom in the hard terrain map is the right answer for hard enduro settings, where you need to get the front wheel popped for getting up a log or rock, followed by the double blip to fly the front off the back. It's why the 300 is the weapon of choice in those settings. It seems like a misleading label for that map, though, as it's the last thing I'd want the bike doing in FL mud like we raced through at Indiantown this year.
I have the 2023 yz450fx, get the fan, should have came with it, and if you are doing really tight single track get the throttle tamer, it turns the first half of the throttle into a 350, then all 450 after that. Took me a while to get use to it, but I really like it, and yes it has gotten away from me a few times. And honestly I was scared of it for the first few rides, this thing has a ton of torque all the time all rpms, I was coming from a yz250f and it was a shock the amount of power. I ride trails, roads in WV between trails and this ting will handle it all.
I installed the fan since that video. Seems to only come on in the real tight sections. 👍 I’m good with the throttle so far. We’ll see how I feel once I throw an aggressive map in there. 🤣 Great bike so far.
Very good video on the FX I ordered a 24 WR450F that should in to the dealer sometime this month. I also ordered the competition ECU so I should have about the same power output as the FX I wanted a little softer suspension, the headlight and taillight, speedometer ,odometer and other things that the WR comes with. I am going to make it street legal so I can ride it from trail to trail.
Thank you! Yeah, for trail riding that softer suspension will be a welcome change. The FX is definitely setup more for racing. The suspension is a little harsh out of the box for the slower stuff.
@@JRideRR How do you like the custom map that you made up for the tighter woods riding? Have you tried the slider bar graph that Yamaha is suppose to have on the tuner now? Almost all of my riding will be on old logging roads and dual track trails, hope the WR works great for that kind of riding.
@@billsharko3007 Pretty good so far. It feels like it's going to stall sometimes but never has. Definitely takes an edge off the throttle response. I like it better than the map I tried using the slider. I went all the way to smooth and TC on high. It made the bike too sluggish. I'll keep playing until I find a map I really like.
@@JRideRR I just talked to my dealer and he said my WR 450 might not be delivered until some time in May now. If you work out a good woods map could you please sent it to me to try when I get my bike? Thanks
I was playing with some maps this weekend. The new slider feature works really well. For tighter riding I put the slider almost all the way to smooth and put traction on low. Worked better than the map I created. The video I'm posting comparing my KTM vs Yamaha has a picture of this map. Just pause that video. I'll let you know if I find or come up with a better one.
How my bikes are setup I like the 450 better for MX. Suspension and ability to tune the bike for each track are the main reasons I'd pick the 450. Really tough choice as I feel more comfortable on the KTM most of the time and you really don't need more power than the 350 has. Difference of tenths of a second for laps times when I have timed myself. Basically splitting hairs at this point. When I ride MX and only bring 1 bike it's been the YZ.
I love the 450fx, almost bought one, went with the ktm 350 xc-f. just because it felt smaller and I wanted the 350. If Yamaha would make a 350, they would crush the sales of everyone. Yamaha has a great engine and their QC seems the best over all of the models, saying that, I do love the ktm, it is easy to ride. Reason I went the 350 route, I ride mainly tight single track and the 450 can be a bit hard to tame in that environment.
Yeah, sounds like you made the right call. I wouldn't want to ride the 450 if I primarily rode real tight trails either. I have a video coming out tonight doing a lap battle between the 350 xc-f and the 450 fx. It was a GP style lap with a little bit of everything.
@@JRideRR I will check it out, I rode 2 stroke for over 20 years, still love them but this 4 stroke is so easy in comparison. almost feels like cheating.
Hmm... What class? This answer depends on so many factors. Either would be an excellent choice. For your weight you may not have to touch the YZ suspension.
@@jasonkellerman7534 Ask yourself how you like to ride. I'm going to assume you're getting the suspension done on either bike at 250lbs. XCF has an amazing, fun motor which seems to work almost everywhere. My only complaint was flameouts with that motor. Components are nicer on the KTM IMHO. The routine maintenance is easy. I'd say if you like a more rev happy playful bike pick the XCF. The YZ even detuned using the app does not get rid of the TQ. It makes it manageable to ride but if you twist that throttle too much with any map, you better hold on. It feels really nimble but at higher speeds it can feel a little twitchy stock. You also cannot get around that little thing called rotating mass. If you get on the gas too soon in a corner it will want to stand that bike up. Come into a corner with that motor wound up and you'll feel it. The YZ handles great. It gives me confidence in the corners. It's a riot to ride due to that tq and makes me giggle in my helmet. The maintenance is easy but that air filter placement is annoying. I lay my bike on its side for air filter changes so dirt doesn't fall into the intake. If you tend to ride low in the rpms I'd say YZ for the TQ. You can be a little more lazy on it. If I had to choose one... I'd pick the YZ350! For me I'd have to stick with racing the 350. Maybe I'll change my mind when I am fit enough to handle the 450 over a 2- hour race. I will be trying to race the 450 at one of my last 2 rounds. Stay tuned.
It looks like the mess they call st. Mary shoals. If it is, I did Many miles of trail maintenance there. I haven't been there since the week after the enduro. Used to be one of my favorite places to ride.
It was top gear but I think the mapping I had in there caused the top end to fall on its face. It just didn’t want to pull anymore. I played with some other maps and have seen 67mph but still no limiter. I’ll load up an aggressive map soon and see what it will pull to.
Not yet. Time will tell but that 350 displacement makes it such a great in between bike. I will say I needed to do quite a few mods to make the 350 the way I wanted it. KTM did move to a spring fork which was one of my biggest pain points. I also don't feel like I could race this bike for 2-hours quite yet. It can be a handful at times.
Best video yet featuring this bike. I currently ride a 2021 KTM 450 xcf and this bike is on my radar because of the KYB suspension and wide ratio gearbox.
Thanks! I get it. I did a KYB spring conversion on my 350. Thought about another KTM but going 450. The KYBs and the rave reviews from the YZ450F swayed me to trying the Yamaha.
@@JRideRR I been riding 450s for many years and now on 2024 ktm 300exc and i can tell you what a bike i love it got all the power you need light and nimble with e start efi i just got to dial the suspension soon nice video
@@williamfine1174Yeah, those 300s are excellent. Especially if you ever due hard technical riding. It’s almost like cheating. Good luck with it!
@@williamfine1174 boring power but hey each to there own
Most useful, honest, real life demonstration of a new bike model I have ever seen on the TH-cams. I’m an old dude with a hooligan complex and this makes me fear owning one just as much as i want to get one to replace…a drz400S. lol. Subscribed. But I could tune a ‘vet’ map couldn’t I?
Thanks! I appreciate it! I knew going in there is no need for this much power but I do love HP. 🤣 As long as I respect it, it’s a blast to ride!
I’ve got the 2023 we250f and the bike is Awsome i definitely recommend buying one Yamaha WRs are one of the most reliable bikes on the market today financing is cheap too 150. By weekly tops . I’m 48 years old and just getting back into riding hard induro exactly what this video is as long as you’ve got all your protection gear on it’s pretty safe . I’d say the 450 is a bit too big of an engine. The other day while riding I got tossed up out of a rut right into a tree and it hooked my right foot and twisted it backwards I was luck I had my boots on cause that would of broke my leg other wise. Yha these bikes are nimble and fast they love being in those upper rpm’s . Love it Brother I never stop riding bikes now that I’m back on one .
I still can’t believe the lack of content on this bike, this is the best review of the 24 yz450fx. I wish I could like this vid more than once lol. Thank you.
Yeah, not much out there. Haha. I appreciate that! Feel free to share it! I just hit 10-hours so I will be making an update video shortly.
Thank You, excellent review.
16:15 - As a PNW transplant to FL, that instant torque off the bottom in the hard terrain map is the right answer for hard enduro settings, where you need to get the front wheel popped for getting up a log or rock, followed by the double blip to fly the front off the back. It's why the 300 is the weapon of choice in those settings. It seems like a misleading label for that map, though, as it's the last thing I'd want the bike doing in FL mud like we raced through at Indiantown this year.
Yep...I'll take a 300 2T for the PNW! 🤣
I have the 2023 yz450fx, get the fan, should have came with it, and if you are doing really tight single track get the throttle tamer, it turns the first half of the throttle into a 350, then all 450 after that. Took me a while to get use to it, but I really like it, and yes it has gotten away from me a few times. And honestly I was scared of it for the first few rides, this thing has a ton of torque all the time all rpms, I was coming from a yz250f and it was a shock the amount of power. I ride trails, roads in WV between trails and this ting will handle it all.
I installed the fan since that video. Seems to only come on in the real tight sections. 👍 I’m good with the throttle so far. We’ll see how I feel once I throw an aggressive map in there. 🤣 Great bike so far.
Very good video on the FX I ordered a 24 WR450F that should in to the dealer sometime this month. I also ordered the competition ECU so I should have about the same power output as the FX I wanted a little softer suspension, the headlight and taillight, speedometer ,odometer and other things that the WR comes with. I am going to make it street legal so I can ride it from trail to trail.
Thank you! Yeah, for trail riding that softer suspension will be a welcome change. The FX is definitely setup more for racing. The suspension is a little harsh out of the box for the slower stuff.
@@JRideRR How do you like the custom map that you made up for the tighter woods riding? Have you tried the slider bar graph that Yamaha is suppose to have on the tuner now? Almost all of my riding will be on old logging roads and dual track trails, hope the WR works great for that kind of riding.
@@billsharko3007 Pretty good so far. It feels like it's going to stall sometimes but never has. Definitely takes an edge off the throttle response. I like it better than the map I tried using the slider. I went all the way to smooth and TC on high. It made the bike too sluggish. I'll keep playing until I find a map I really like.
@@JRideRR I just talked to my dealer and he said my WR 450 might not be delivered until some time in May now. If you work out a good woods map could you please sent it to me to try when I get my bike? Thanks
I was playing with some maps this weekend. The new slider feature works really well. For tighter riding I put the slider almost all the way to smooth and put traction on low. Worked better than the map I created. The video I'm posting comparing my KTM vs Yamaha has a picture of this map. Just pause that video. I'll let you know if I find or come up with a better one.
I’m going for the ‘25 250fx next year from my 2020.
Nice!
On the MX track, do you like the 350 or the 450 better? And why? Best regards. 🔥🔥🔥
How my bikes are setup I like the 450 better for MX. Suspension and ability to tune the bike for each track are the main reasons I'd pick the 450. Really tough choice as I feel more comfortable on the KTM most of the time and you really don't need more power than the 350 has. Difference of tenths of a second for laps times when I have timed myself. Basically splitting hairs at this point. When I ride MX and only bring 1 bike it's been the YZ.
@@JRideRR Thank you, I appreciate your response and your help. Best regards. I watch a lot of your videos.
I love the 450fx, almost bought one, went with the ktm 350 xc-f. just because it felt smaller and I wanted the 350. If Yamaha would make a 350, they would crush the sales of everyone. Yamaha has a great engine and their QC seems the best over all of the models, saying that, I do love the ktm, it is easy to ride. Reason I went the 350 route, I ride mainly tight single track and the 450 can be a bit hard to tame in that environment.
Yeah, sounds like you made the right call. I wouldn't want to ride the 450 if I primarily rode real tight trails either. I have a video coming out tonight doing a lap battle between the 350 xc-f and the 450 fx. It was a GP style lap with a little bit of everything.
@@JRideRR I will check it out, I rode 2 stroke for over 20 years, still love them but this 4 stroke is so easy in comparison. almost feels like cheating.
Is the Honda 450 better than this bike?
Ktm 350 xcf or Yam 450fx? 250 lbs vet rider... what do you recommend?
Hmm... What class? This answer depends on so many factors. Either would be an excellent choice. For your weight you may not have to touch the YZ suspension.
@@JRideRR GNCC 40+
@@jasonkellerman7534 Ask yourself how you like to ride. I'm going to assume you're getting the suspension done on either bike at 250lbs. XCF has an amazing, fun motor which seems to work almost everywhere. My only complaint was flameouts with that motor. Components are nicer on the KTM IMHO. The routine maintenance is easy. I'd say if you like a more rev happy playful bike pick the XCF. The YZ even detuned using the app does not get rid of the TQ. It makes it manageable to ride but if you twist that throttle too much with any map, you better hold on. It feels really nimble but at higher speeds it can feel a little twitchy stock. You also cannot get around that little thing called rotating mass. If you get on the gas too soon in a corner it will want to stand that bike up. Come into a corner with that motor wound up and you'll feel it. The YZ handles great. It gives me confidence in the corners. It's a riot to ride due to that tq and makes me giggle in my helmet. The maintenance is easy but that air filter placement is annoying. I lay my bike on its side for air filter changes so dirt doesn't fall into the intake. If you tend to ride low in the rpms I'd say YZ for the TQ. You can be a little more lazy on it. If I had to choose one... I'd pick the YZ350! For me I'd have to stick with racing the 350. Maybe I'll change my mind when I am fit enough to handle the 450 over a 2- hour race. I will be trying to race the 450 at one of my last 2 rounds. Stay tuned.
Yamaha needs to make a 350 F ,in X and WR
Yes. Would be an amazing bike! I doubt it will ever happen though. 😒
Is this Florida? Where is it?
It looks like the mess they call st. Mary shoals. If it is, I did Many miles of trail maintenance there. I haven't been there since the week after the enduro. Used to be one of my favorite places to ride.
22:40 thats not top gear. the only changes with the trans is 1st and 2nd. 3rd 4th and 5th are similar to motorcross gearing.
It was top gear but I think the mapping I had in there caused the top end to fall on its face. It just didn’t want to pull anymore. I played with some other maps and have seen 67mph but still no limiter. I’ll load up an aggressive map soon and see what it will pull to.
@@JRideRR yeah watched the video again and it sounds like its at 6 7k rpm. They go 89 90 on the limiter. 90 on dirt is sketchy af though
Yeah, not sure I’ll hit the limiter. Haha. I’ve had my 350 up to 83 in that same spot.
Do you like it better than your 350
Not yet. Time will tell but that 350 displacement makes it such a great in between bike. I will say I needed to do quite a few mods to make the 350 the way I wanted it. KTM did move to a spring fork which was one of my biggest pain points. I also don't feel like I could race this bike for 2-hours quite yet. It can be a handful at times.