I just really hope they head to earth at some point. Welt's relations are just way too juicy to pass up. Then maybe ask kiana mei and bronya to help in the fight against nanook.
@@garethcf1016 i dont think they're gonna be able to travel to another branch of the tree with just a train tho it seems pretty hard to get to earth for now
@@Arkleio Actually, Aeons can travel throught the branches of the imaginary tree (you can find it in game files), and the traiblaizing was created by Akivili, I am pretty sure there is a possibility that they can go to earth, but according to game itself, the routes created by Akivili has been dissapearing, so maybe thats the reason why Welt Yang has not been able to go back to Earth.
@@HerrscherofSimp3164 could be, but what i theorize is that "aeons traveling through the imaginary tree" is simply backed up by the "hsr contains all of the imaginary tree" theory as they believe in hsr. sadly there is no actual proof for this theory as they dont have any proof of the imaginary tree existing in hsr in the first place so i can't say that statement is 100% true. the path of akivili disappearing is something else tho so that might actually explain some things
Himeko specifically says _KANOJO tachi ga._ Meaning _She's referrring to everyone as ALL Girls._ This isn't towards some past Trailblazers aboard the express or anything; it genuinely seems like she's actually seeing glimpses of the HI3 Valkyries through her dreams. It's unfortunate that this is easy to miss in the ENG Dub, because she does refer to these group of individuals as "they/them" because it is referring to plurals/multiple groups of people. It's just that it would have been nice if ENG Dub Himeko says like " _I see blurred faces of these girls, I don't know who they are..but I sympathize with all of them, fighting for survival against some unfathomable force._ "
There's more. In the line where she says "I sympathize with all of them." (God that's the worst translation in my opinion btw.) She says this in JP: "Kazoku mo douzen datta." "We were pretty much family in all but name." Why the fumbles if you want us to feel the connection, Hoyo?
@@aetherdraw Agreed, the worst part is like, if I recall correctly non-Asian dubs of HSR refers to ENG Dub for translation references. So these misses also ends up translating down for other languages I can excuse the interaction difference w/ Seele AND Luka, or Topaz + Aventurine; but they need to pay attention to their localizing team for sure.
@@LudicolloEnjoyerindeed bro for real, not only non-asian subs, im using Indonesian subs (SEA) and JP dub, Sometimes there are sentences that don't quite match with what the character say (i know a lil bit japanese), i just hope our reference translation from original language ( CN ) or atleast JP/KR who still follow the original resource
Bruh, I just realize that Robin and Sunday are some kind of parallels to Kiana and Kevin. They have the same objective - to save the world and everyone, yet they chose really different paths that conflicts with each other
Did you also notice that Sunday's plan relied on TRAPPING EVERYONE IN AN ENDLESS DREAM, where everyone lived the lives they wished for you know, like a certain WHITE-HAIRED MAN
It was so stupid in hsr though. No stakes, no point, no unfathomable force trying to destroy humanity. It was such a pointless endeavour and shit story telling.
Plot twist... He knows. And if Welt brings Tesla over, and she saw Himeko there, Tesla may skin him alive, considering Himeko feeling toward her old professor. The main reason why Himeko struggled to find her soulmate was likely because of her super high standard (Welt)...
So knowing Welt in Star Rail is the same Welt from Honkai Impact thanks to that cutscene of him boarding the Express at the end of his story, it lands credence to the multiple world same universe theory Acheron mentions. In this case, it's implying Himeko has dreams of herself in another life that has long passed.
Its probably himeko's soul reacted to the Order power that possesed penacony that even her soul past memories splashed for a moment. At this point i think Himeko is a reincarnation of her
I swear one of this patches the broken Sword fragments of Himeko HI3 in Herta's Space station would flew where ever Himeko HSR is if she ever needs it, there are too many references or even here she saw in a dream the Hi3 cast, nah too much reference she(HI3rd Himeko) will definitely make an appearance
@@bruhdrugon6094 You never know - Trailblazer has had 3 different forms, Dan Heng returned to Imbibitor Lunae and in a future update, they're giving March 7th a new form (But keeping it akin to Trailblazer, where she can switch at will), the next could either be Welt becoming the Herrscher of Reason again (Remember that his power is somewhat suppressed by Bronya's weapon), or Himeko taking the form of the Vermillion Knight since these are the only two who have yet to gain new forms
plot twist: hsr himeko is hi3 himeko but losing all memories after got corrupted by honkai energy and falling slowly to imaginary space and met akivili by anychace she's got revive and staying on the expreese
@@LimitPro1 Hopefully - the way I can see them doing this is some event puts the Nameless in danger, and due to her regained memories...Himeko realises that she may need extra strength, and enter Vermillion Knight
Unless she was reborn with different a vessel with the exact same soul in a certain world that's why she cant remember her past memories. There is notes from the game about her childhood with a broken astral express that landed in her world (she repaired the astral express) And it seems like this scene was happened because certain power of aeon or emanator, probably the order or Xipe
@@ehan2843 I'd say "Rebirth" would be the best explanation, since SR Himeko seems to have memories of HI3 Himeko, but at the same time bears no sign of the injuries that she had (Plus, the fact that her insides were completely roasted too) - if so, this would give "She was reborn in the fire, She smiled in the fire" a double meaning
Wave goodbye to the past, when hope and faith, have grown so strong and sound. Unfold a pair of wings, for me again, to soar above this world. Turn into the moon that always tells the warmth and brightness of the sun. May all the beauty be blessed!!!! Lyrics that will always hold a deep meaning to me. Kiana forever.
I just hope the developer actually connect the 2 verse at some point, cause how would kiana react if she met this himeko and how tesla and joyce would feel meeting welt again. And the scene where stelle fall from the sky and acheron actualy reach out to grab her hand. Suddenly that one song played inside my head "if saving you i a sin,then i glady become a sinner..."
@@riouwu8517 thats why i said how surprised tesla to see welt again, as as far as we know welt could be considered M.I.A in HI3 universe right now, and how AE tried to locate him.
It'd be interesting if Himeko was a reincarnation of the Himeko from the HI3 timeline, and that's why she's been getting the memories from Surtr and the "dreams" - but with a different vessel. When you think about it, if she was the exact same Himeko - she would've had scarring from the Honkai Corruption, and would be unable to fight due to still being severely wounded by Surtr.
My feelings become even stronger when the preview of 2.3 has a new feature that says finality and a teaser for the mystery song that will be released in 2.3. Will have something nostalgic or maybe a strong reference from Honkai Impact Yes, even though it's just speculation, for some reason there are mixed feelings 😅
It'd be funny if "Finality" meant that we FINALLY got confirmation on what happened to Kiana (Personally, i'm suspecting Stelle to be a homunculus of her - but it'd be a nice touch if the real her appeared)
An interesting way they could pull off the "Reincarnation" theory is to make it so it turns out that using her power of Finality, Kiana constructed a new body to give Himeko a second chance at life... it'd be a good way to introduce HI3 Kiana to the SR universe, and explain why Kiana was in a coma throughout Part 2
Bro I'm m a very new HI3 player and thought she was talking about the HI3 crew then thought I was overthinking. I'm so glad you veteran players are like pointing out the specific word choice in Japanese
Yeah, noticed it right away. I swear Himeko's getting more HI3 references than anyone/anything else, and devs are still pushing it further and further. SPOILER alert for 2.2 story: We're also kinda getting... not a reference but another scratch from devs when we speak to her on the Express in a "fake" ending. Something about "it was really dangerous, I wish you hadn't gone down". Which definitely reflects thoughts of those who know. But oh well, HI3's Himeko would just laugh at this nonsense. Didn't take this dialogue option in HSR, it really sounds like some obsessive hypercare huh.
@@RFEZR, yeah but they are mostly combined. And I have a feeling that around a half of her references are about HI3 in general not about her as a character (maybe I'm blind or simply forgot stuff... first scene in TB's dream with Kiana and Kevin references, love to peaches, dialogue with Welt... her getting the Origin sword, but it was in a context of a general HI3 reference... what else?). I guess she'll get more when we see her again but the question is WHEN we see her again? While Himeko, being a persisting character, just gets more and more character-oriented references. Or I just see them clearer haha. Not that it matters though, and I definitely don't want to compare an amoun of references. But the amount is big and they keep stockpiling. I wonder if some of them are not just references but something important. I mean, recurring dreams - even while being blurred - about the other version of you form another universe is a bit... sounds like a hint to some Hoyoverse rules or phenomens. Most likely not though, but we still don't know how exactly Hoyoverse works right, theories from different games are different (in GGZ, IIRC, Honkai was said to have a universe of origin and wasn't just a universal Imaginary Tree mechanism, in HI3 we might think that different universes should be Imaginary Tree's "leaves" while in HSR this concept has already been partially rejected and it appears that "leaves" might be "worlds" (and "world" has a broad definition) and so on).
acheron has many reff from HI3 her talk to Sam about did you still dream about people that die because of you? it the same question that kevin ask her, if the weigh of fate is always count? why why strive to life?, this refer to Mei confersation with Aphonia about fate, when MC fall from the sky Acheron grabed MC hand from above, thiss refrence to lament of the fallen
Theory time! She is the reincarnation of HI3 Himeko. She died in whatever pocket dimension HoV dragged her into, and her soul ended up in-between worlds first, then in the HSR universe.
Straight up came looking for some sort of reaction or reaction mashup to this line on youtube the moment i read it, because i caught it instantly. Sad there is none 😔
i didn't realise this until i was watching my gf play the game in a call. i don't know how i missed it the first time but i was excited and concerned as to what happens if Himeko reaches her other self's fate in her dreams and what will the evil gods of karma (the writers) do?
I can accept it. Only issue would be time frame, but lets face it HI3 Himeko trailblazed pretty hard, hard enough that I could see her hitching a ride on a certain timetraveling Aeon (that might even be connected to HI3 story!) solving that particular issue. Alternatively she both is and isn't, and this HSR is like both HI3 and a separate one, just "merged." So HSR Himeko can call upon "HI3" himeko like Jing yuan calls the lightning lord.
@@barisavupeni6138 I would laugh if they gave Himeko a second form, and had it as the Vermillion Knight (We know from Cia's performance with her saying "WITNESS THE WILL OF THE WEAK!" that she does have the potential to put on a more aggressive stance)
I had a theory that some of the pieces of Himeko's sword dropped into the imaginary sea that eventually fell into hsr (and hert's space station) and not only that, it formed a lightcone (welt's lightcone is proof that it is possible). So what if Hsr Himeko found it and started to dream of thise memories
So does this mean Himeko is The Himeko from Honkai Impact 3rd but reborn? I mean we did see her broken sword blade on Hertas Curio room aside of Travelers Windglider from Genshin
So, what? You think that'll be how Welt and Himeko will get their second forms? Welt as the Herrscher of Reason, and Himeko as the Vermillion Knight I mean
For me, it'd just be interesting to see Kiana, Mei and Bronya back (The latter in their APHO attire though) - just imagine the conversations between Bronya (HI3) and Seele (HSR) Mei (HI3) and Acheron Kiana and Acheron Kiana and Bronya (HSR) Mei (HI3) and Bronya (HSR) And of course: Kiana and Himeko Mei (HI3) and Himeko Mei (HI3) and Welt Bronya (HI3) and Himeko Bronya (HI3) and Welt (Maybe have that serve as somewhat of the moment when Welt stops holding back and getting his second form)
Perhaps I should feel bad that in Grand Chase, Kiana(Elesis) vows to kill Himeko(Decanee)... Context: VAs of Elesis and Decanee are Rie Kugimiya and Rie Tanaka respectively...
You can either emulate it or use it on pc, in pc they let you change a lot of controls now, and they added control support for at least a PS4 Controller, I’d recommend using that if you have one but Xbox controller would prolly work as well
@@alexandergreene461 Ohh okay thanks, yeah cause I tried playing with just keyboard and mouse, and it was awful. You can move the camera with the mouse, but all the attacks are with the keyboard and with both hands like... wtf
So, lets just say Star Rail is Bubble Universe of Honkai Impact or a part of Sea of Quantum or Data Space as now they call it. Thank you for sharing this.
Shaoji prolly waiting for the 9th world the 9th story quest the 9th person to join the express and the 9th reason to why himeko should die because we are basically going threw our yuji arc
In Part 2 they started very high concept and didn’t explain much of anything, I still have no clue what they’re going on about in dialogue and I never skip dialogue…
@@othi-k2k Except Black Swan 100 times less complicated than Misteln, ideas, and the philosophy about civilization being made of stories (man i cannot remember anything about that)
@@ธนบดีพิมภักดี - to be kinda fair, it may not exactly be a collab in a traditional sense considering that Welt is the same one from HI3. Plus, there's also the part where Void Archives is still roaming around within the branch of Star Rail.
Any collab would be fine for me at this point. Only Hi3 and GGZ are getting collabs. Genshin HAS NONE YES NONE. Hope the HSR team does collabs. They could just add a separate timeline in the Fate Atlas for Collab stuff and not have it interfere with the main storyline. So people who scream about canon/non-canon shit can stfu.
![Welt meets Acheron [HSR Animated]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZGHvU-UXLs8/mqdefault.jpg)
In JP feel more direct to implied what she mean since she keep saying "Kanojo Tachi"
What does Kanojo Tachi mean?
@@Scathach_Those girls (them)
@@Scathach_ Those girls
@@Scathach_ it's refer to group of female usually use to for younger group of females.
@@luckystar788 Thx
They really love going so far on referencing a lot of HI3 in Penacony, and I love it at every way!
I DO TOO!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR KIANA'S EXPY TO ARRIVE. I BET SHE WILL BE AN EMMANATOR OF THE FINALITY!!!❤❤❤❤ I LOVE KIANA SO MUCH!!❤❤
I just really hope they head to earth at some point. Welt's relations are just way too juicy to pass up. Then maybe ask kiana mei and bronya to help in the fight against nanook.
@@garethcf1016 i dont think they're gonna be able to travel to another branch of the tree with just a train tho it seems pretty hard to get to earth for now
@@Arkleio Actually, Aeons can travel throught the branches of the imaginary tree (you can find it in game files), and the traiblaizing was created by Akivili, I am pretty sure there is a possibility that they can go to earth, but according to game itself, the routes created by Akivili has been dissapearing, so maybe thats the reason why Welt Yang has not been able to go back to Earth.
@@HerrscherofSimp3164 could be, but what i theorize is that "aeons traveling through the imaginary tree" is simply backed up by the "hsr contains all of the imaginary tree" theory as they believe in hsr. sadly there is no actual proof for this theory as they dont have any proof of the imaginary tree existing in hsr in the first place so i can't say that statement is 100% true. the path of akivili disappearing is something else tho so that might actually explain some things
For HI3 players, we all know what she's talking about 😭
Yep Himeko my beloved
Yup
Yeah I remember that. And made me play fortnite instead
Never let you go...
Yeah we all honkai impact player knows 😢
She was reborn in the fire.
She was smiling in the fire.
"TURN INTO A MOON THAT ALWAYS TELLS THE WARMTH AND THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN"
*shows Himeko's face* "THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN"
MAY ALL THE BEAUTY BE BLESSED
MAY ALL THE BEAUTY BE BLESSED 🗣️🗣️
MAY ALL THE BEAUTY BE BLESSED
Himeko is truly the embodiment of the most fiery flower, because it will always burn no matter what happens 🔥
Man, the look on Kiana's face when she realizes who's beside her gets me every time
The slight shift in focus like she's going to be blown back if she looks too long is just...so good
She can't spend time looking back
Himeko specifically says _KANOJO tachi ga._ Meaning _She's referrring to everyone as ALL Girls._
This isn't towards some past Trailblazers aboard the express or anything; it genuinely seems like she's actually seeing glimpses of the HI3 Valkyries through her dreams.
It's unfortunate that this is easy to miss in the ENG Dub, because she does refer to these group of individuals as "they/them" because it is referring to plurals/multiple groups of people.
It's just that it would have been nice if ENG Dub Himeko says like " _I see blurred faces of these girls, I don't know who they are..but I sympathize with all of them, fighting for survival against some unfathomable force._ "
There's more.
In the line where she says "I sympathize with all of them." (God that's the worst translation in my opinion btw.)
She says this in JP: "Kazoku mo douzen datta."
"We were pretty much family in all but name."
Why the fumbles if you want us to feel the connection, Hoyo?
@@aetherdraw Agreed, the worst part is like, if I recall correctly non-Asian dubs of HSR refers to ENG Dub for translation references. So these misses also ends up translating down for other languages
I can excuse the interaction difference w/ Seele AND Luka, or Topaz + Aventurine; but they need to pay attention to their localizing team for sure.
@@aetherdraw theory, the HSR localization team doesnt play HI3 😔
@@LudicolloEnjoyerindeed bro for real, not only non-asian subs, im using Indonesian subs (SEA) and JP dub, Sometimes there are sentences that don't quite match with what the character say (i know a lil bit japanese), i just hope our reference translation from original language ( CN ) or atleast JP/KR who still follow the original resource
Tbh I play it dub but I already got the reference about honkai impact 3rd
“I wish I could wake from the dream each time I dream
There’s a long night coming soon id shine as last shine”
neeeveeeeeeer leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet you goooooo
Bruh, I just realize that Robin and Sunday are some kind of parallels to Kiana and Kevin. They have the same objective - to save the world and everyone, yet they chose really different paths that conflicts with each other
Did you also notice that Sunday's plan relied on TRAPPING EVERYONE IN AN ENDLESS DREAM, where everyone lived the lives they wished for
you know, like a certain WHITE-HAIRED MAN
1:04
“She was reborn in the fire… she was smiling in the fire.”
When you also realize kevin and sunday did a similar of a giant collective dream to save the people
I realized that too. Especially as Welt brought it up in 2.1. . Woukd've thought he would again.
It was so stupid in hsr though. No stakes, no point, no unfathomable force trying to destroy humanity. It was such a pointless endeavour and shit story telling.
NEVER LET YOU GO-
It’s why I did them all.
@@emperorcaligula9098 for a chance atleast
@@vijis2490 to live in your way
Some deserts on this planet were oceans once
Shaoji is never letting us go
Shaoji and Da Wei are both smiling menacingly in the corner
HI3rd player got PTSD cause Shaoji 😂😂
0:09 Rather than "But I Sympathise" the original Dub(CN) straight out says that they were like Family😢
I don't think there is a single HI3 player that didn't realize what she was talking about.
Welt next to her dieing from heart attack
Good. remind him more so he'd at least bring his wife over. (Playable tesla please, I beg of you)
Plot twist... He knows. And if Welt brings Tesla over, and she saw Himeko there, Tesla may skin him alive, considering Himeko feeling toward her old professor.
The main reason why Himeko struggled to find her soulmate was likely because of her super high standard (Welt)...
this is genius lmao 😭😭
@@anlayalayana He'll definitely have one if he accompanies them to Amphoreus
Ouch... Especially if you know what happened to her in HI3.
Well when Robin fell from the stage suddenly nightglow playing in my head.
@@akmale-store1967 Do NOT
So knowing Welt in Star Rail is the same Welt from Honkai Impact thanks to that cutscene of him boarding the Express at the end of his story, it lands credence to the multiple world same universe theory Acheron mentions. In this case, it's implying Himeko has dreams of herself in another life that has long passed.
Its probably himeko's soul reacted to the Order power that possesed penacony that even her soul past memories splashed for a moment.
At this point i think Himeko is a reincarnation of her
Not me crying like a baby over this reference 😭
I love and miss Himeko so much
I swear one of this patches the broken Sword fragments of Himeko HI3 in Herta's Space station would flew where ever Himeko HSR is if she ever needs it, there are too many references or even here she saw in a dream the Hi3 cast, nah too much reference she(HI3rd Himeko) will definitely make an appearance
If hi3 Himeko appears it would be stupid,confusing the newer players,while lessening the impact of Final Lesson, so nah I doubt it
@@funfactmaker4924 don't worry he is coping
@@bruhdrugon6094 You never know - Trailblazer has had 3 different forms, Dan Heng returned to Imbibitor Lunae and in a future update, they're giving March 7th a new form (But keeping it akin to Trailblazer, where she can switch at will), the next could either be Welt becoming the Herrscher of Reason again (Remember that his power is somewhat suppressed by Bronya's weapon), or Himeko taking the form of the Vermillion Knight since these are the only two who have yet to gain new forms
plot twist: hsr himeko is hi3 himeko but losing all memories after got corrupted by honkai energy and falling slowly to imaginary space and met akivili by anychace she's got revive and staying on the expreese
Wouldn't be surprised, but it'd e more like she's a reincarnation - unless her body got reconstructed upon entering that timeline
Considering where she fell it isn't to far off
@@LimitPro1 Hopefully - the way I can see them doing this is some event puts the Nameless in danger, and due to her regained memories...Himeko realises that she may need extra strength, and enter Vermillion Knight
Unless she was reborn with different a vessel with the exact same soul in a certain world that's why she cant remember her past memories. There is notes from the game about her childhood with a broken astral express that landed in her world (she repaired the astral express)
And it seems like this scene was happened because certain power of aeon or emanator, probably the order or Xipe
@@ehan2843 I'd say "Rebirth" would be the best explanation, since SR Himeko seems to have memories of HI3 Himeko, but at the same time bears no sign of the injuries that she had (Plus, the fact that her insides were completely roasted too) - if so, this would give "She was reborn in the fire, She smiled in the fire" a double meaning
Wave goodbye to the past, when hope and faith, have grown so strong and sound.
Unfold a pair of wings, for me again, to soar above this world.
Turn into the moon that always tells the warmth and brightness of the sun.
May all the beauty be blessed!!!!
Lyrics that will always hold a deep meaning to me.
Kiana forever.
Our Tuna Has Grown Up, Proud of her
I just hope the developer actually connect the 2 verse at some point, cause how would kiana react if she met this himeko and how tesla and joyce would feel meeting welt again.
And the scene where stelle fall from the sky and acheron actualy reach out to grab her hand. Suddenly that one song played inside my head "if saving you i a sin,then i glady become a sinner..."
I mean Welt is literally HI3 Welt
There has to be a honkai impact collab in the future, there needs to be.
Welt HSR Is the same Welt HI3. He has flashbacks from HI3, flashbacks of Joyce and Otto Apocalypse in Xianzhou's missions
@@riouwu8517 thats why i said how surprised tesla to see welt again, as as far as we know welt could be considered M.I.A in HI3 universe right now, and how AE tried to locate him.
DON'T LET THE GODDAMN FISH TO KILL HER AGAIN
It'd be interesting if Himeko was a reincarnation of the Himeko from the HI3 timeline, and that's why she's been getting the memories from Surtr and the "dreams" - but with a different vessel. When you think about it, if she was the exact same Himeko - she would've had scarring from the Honkai Corruption, and would be unable to fight due to still being severely wounded by Surtr.
Ahh yes. Pain. Thank you for reminding us captain xD
My feelings become even stronger when the preview of 2.3 has a new feature that says finality and a teaser for the mystery song that will be released in 2.3. Will have something nostalgic or maybe a strong reference from Honkai Impact
Yes, even though it's just speculation, for some reason there are mixed feelings 😅
It'd be funny if "Finality" meant that we FINALLY got confirmation on what happened to Kiana (Personally, i'm suspecting Stelle to be a homunculus of her - but it'd be a nice touch if the real her appeared)
It's just like when Golden Courtyard Pardo dreamed about the fight with the Herrscher of the End on the moon.
An interesting way they could pull off the "Reincarnation" theory is to make it so it turns out that using her power of Finality, Kiana constructed a new body to give Himeko a second chance at life... it'd be a good way to introduce HI3 Kiana to the SR universe, and explain why Kiana was in a coma throughout Part 2
First thing that cane to my mind 😅
Possitive and wholesome story as Da Wei and Shaoji implies
The way I go through with red roses burn my eyes.
Cold rain starts pouring hard, I'm being called upon.
Bro I'm m a very new HI3 player and thought she was talking about the HI3 crew then thought I was overthinking. I'm so glad you veteran players are like pointing out the specific word choice in Japanese
Hearing the never to give up in JP hit different
My god.. always tears in my eyes when i see honkai impact 3 himeko
Yeah, noticed it right away. I swear Himeko's getting more HI3 references than anyone/anything else, and devs are still pushing it further and further.
SPOILER alert for 2.2 story:
We're also kinda getting... not a reference but another scratch from devs when we speak to her on the Express in a "fake" ending. Something about "it was really dangerous, I wish you hadn't gone down". Which definitely reflects thoughts of those who know. But oh well, HI3's Himeko would just laugh at this nonsense. Didn't take this dialogue option in HSR, it really sounds like some obsessive hypercare huh.
I wouldn't say it's a fake ending tho,More like a Non Canon interaction
edit:Ok i just saw the quotation marks 💀
Acheron also got a lot of callbacks to Impact 3rd all over her character and interactions
@@RFEZR, yeah but they are mostly combined. And I have a feeling that around a half of her references are about HI3 in general not about her as a character (maybe I'm blind or simply forgot stuff... first scene in TB's dream with Kiana and Kevin references, love to peaches, dialogue with Welt... her getting the Origin sword, but it was in a context of a general HI3 reference... what else?). I guess she'll get more when we see her again but the question is WHEN we see her again? While Himeko, being a persisting character, just gets more and more character-oriented references. Or I just see them clearer haha.
Not that it matters though, and I definitely don't want to compare an amoun of references. But the amount is big and they keep stockpiling. I wonder if some of them are not just references but something important. I mean, recurring dreams - even while being blurred - about the other version of you form another universe is a bit... sounds like a hint to some Hoyoverse rules or phenomens. Most likely not though, but we still don't know how exactly Hoyoverse works right, theories from different games are different (in GGZ, IIRC, Honkai was said to have a universe of origin and wasn't just a universal Imaginary Tree mechanism, in HI3 we might think that different universes should be Imaginary Tree's "leaves" while in HSR this concept has already been partially rejected and it appears that "leaves" might be "worlds" (and "world" has a broad definition) and so on).
acheron has many reff from HI3
her talk to Sam about did you still dream about people that die because of you? it the same question that kevin ask her, if the weigh of fate is always count? why why strive to life?, this refer to Mei confersation with Aphonia about fate, when MC fall from the sky Acheron grabed MC hand from above, thiss refrence to lament of the fallen
@@zetracakep, got it. Looks like I poorly remember later chapters. Gotta replay them.
That last smile, yup that hot smile
Always killing my heart, dammit Shaoji and all the crew
Never let you go~
It's why i did them all~
For a chance at least
To live in your way~
I got the reference as soon as I read it in game.
Theory time!
She is the reincarnation of HI3 Himeko.
She died in whatever pocket dimension HoV dragged her into, and her soul ended up in-between worlds first, then in the HSR universe.
That'd explain how despite slowly getting Impact 3rd Himeko's memories, Himeko doesn't have external or internal scarring
That probably happened after she helps Kiana at the end of Flamescion.
I'm glad you also noticed
never let you go~
Straight up came looking for some sort of reaction or reaction mashup to this line on youtube the moment i read it, because i caught it instantly. Sad there is none 😔
evidence why this Himeko is the HI3 himeko
NEVER LET YOU GOOOOOOOOO
Well, since I never played HI3, I have no idea what Himeko was talking about until now.
I really wonder if both Himeko and Welt are living some sorta of sea of quanta s parallel universe.
What would Welt think if Welt heard this word?
Yeah i never played Impact 3rd, but i heard some things and was like "is that what i think it is?"
for HI player this is hit me hard
oh this just makes me wants himeko even more :') please make hi3 reference in hsr compilation
I'm telling you Himeko's gonna get awaken like Acheron
Never let you go🔥🔥🔥🔥
I got goosebumps
i didn't realise this until i was watching my gf play the game in a call. i don't know how i missed it the first time but i was excited and concerned as to what happens if Himeko reaches her other self's fate in her dreams and what will the evil gods of karma (the writers) do?
Imagine if this is our Himiko. After she fell through the img space, ended up in HSR without her memories except her name and her love for the stars.
I can accept it. Only issue would be time frame, but lets face it HI3 Himeko trailblazed pretty hard, hard enough that I could see her hitching a ride on a certain timetraveling Aeon (that might even be connected to HI3 story!) solving that particular issue.
Alternatively she both is and isn't, and this HSR is like both HI3 and a separate one, just "merged." So HSR Himeko can call upon "HI3" himeko like Jing yuan calls the lightning lord.
@@TerminalDevastationik too bad we won't be seeing anymore of HI3rd Himiko
@@barisavupeni6138 I would laugh if they gave Himeko a second form, and had it as the Vermillion Knight (We know from Cia's performance with her saying "WITNESS THE WILL OF THE WEAK!" that she does have the potential to put on a more aggressive stance)
Don't tell himeko now is current himeko from Hi3 but she lost her memory and she's not dead after she fighting with kiana?
I had a theory that some of the pieces of Himeko's sword dropped into the imaginary sea that eventually fell into hsr (and hert's space station) and not only that, it formed a lightcone (welt's lightcone is proof that it is possible). So what if Hsr Himeko found it and started to dream of thise memories
actually pieces of sword in Himeko grave. If i not mistaken
Himeko is connected with other self😮
So does this mean Himeko is The Himeko from Honkai Impact 3rd but reborn? I mean we did see her broken sword blade on Hertas Curio room aside of Travelers Windglider from Genshin
In 2.2 we realized that former trailblazers mostly had tragic end, im beginning to see a pattern here and i don't think i like it
So, what? You think that'll be how Welt and Himeko will get their second forms? Welt as the Herrscher of Reason, and Himeko as the Vermillion Knight I mean
Waiting for himeko theme song in hsr
NEVER LET YOU GO
Stelle is the splitting image of Kiana when she became the Herrscher of Flamescion 😢
*spitting
Please hoyo! Give we are Kiana in Starrails😅 Don't make us feel like some parts are very familiar in Honkai Impact again😅
Hoyo please make a collaboration between HI3 and Star Rail, I want to see everyone back
For me, it'd just be interesting to see Kiana, Mei and Bronya back (The latter in their APHO attire though) - just imagine the conversations between
Bronya (HI3) and Seele (HSR)
Mei (HI3) and Acheron
Kiana and Acheron
Kiana and Bronya (HSR)
Mei (HI3) and Bronya (HSR)
And of course:
Kiana and Himeko
Mei (HI3) and Himeko
Mei (HI3) and Welt
Bronya (HI3) and Himeko
Bronya (HI3) and Welt (Maybe have that serve as somewhat of the moment when Welt stops holding back and getting his second form)
As Captain
It Fix Hsr Himeko is reincarnation of Hi3rd Himeko
Muitas referencias honkai impact (Acheron como raiden mei ) welt falando que no planeta dele caelus seria Rank S muito da hora ! 😊
HI3 WE KNOW
no. noo. NO. NOO. NOOOOOO!!
Perhaps I should feel bad that in Grand Chase, Kiana(Elesis) vows to kill Himeko(Decanee)...
Context: VAs of Elesis and Decanee are Rie Kugimiya and Rie Tanaka respectively...
Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was playing GC in English, so I never noticed 😶 Besides, Decanee was never a mentor figure to Elesis???
@@milicajakovljevic6288 Exactly...
I just simply made the VA connection...
NEVEEEEER LEEEEEEET YOUUUU GOOOOOOOOOO
what is the name of the song that plays at 0:44?
Moon halo
Moon halo is the song that plays in the animation "everlasting flames"
I really wanted to try playing 3rd impact, but the pc launcher is horrible :( any recommendations?
If it is, wait for the new launcher from Hoyo. You'll use the same that ZZZ had.
You can either emulate it or use it on pc, in pc they let you change a lot of controls now, and they added control support for at least a PS4 Controller, I’d recommend using that if you have one but Xbox controller would prolly work as well
@@alexandergreene461 Ohh okay thanks, yeah cause I tried playing with just keyboard and mouse, and it was awful. You can move the camera with the mouse, but all the attacks are with the keyboard and with both hands like... wtf
@@tong8619Uhh i think you might be outdated... Now both attack and evasion is on mouse click (respectively)
With Skill and Ult is on E and Q.. shift for Evasion as alternative.. while Part 2 character will have space as for jumping ..
*Welt is the first.*
what is happening in the Hi3 verse? it has more lore than genshin and star rail imo
Cmon, Join Us in Depression Impact
It leaves both games in the dust when it comes to story telling and lore. its a wild ride and well worth it.
Gonna die?
Never. We'll never let her go.
Still waiting that cutscene himeko fall to abyss 😂
So, lets just say Star Rail is Bubble Universe of Honkai Impact or a part of Sea of Quantum or Data Space as now they call it. Thank you for sharing this.
I do think its a bubble universe.
Y is your game Italian
😭😭😭😭
Shaoji prolly waiting for the 9th world the 9th story quest the 9th person to join the express and the 9th reason to why himeko should die because we are basically going threw our yuji arc
Ahhh The good memories and nostalgia of HI3 Part 1. I can't catch up with part 2 story at all....
In Part 2 they started very high concept and didn’t explain much of anything, I still have no clue what they’re going on about in dialogue and I never skip dialogue…
(spoilers for 2.2)
i mean, keeping everyone stuck in a dream and becoming the one above all
Is pretty much project stigma and spiritual adam
not to mention the boss battle is quite similar to the herrscher of dominance due to the puppets and such.
They use the "why do birds fly" concept a few times and Welt does reference Project Stigma directly haha.
@@geminiokra yeah haha ig this time trailblazer is the philosopher to kevin/sunday, and black swan is our milstein/Idea
@@othi-k2k Except Black Swan 100 times less complicated than Misteln, ideas, and the philosophy about civilization being made of stories (man i cannot remember anything about that)
@@lancerowy7600 Bro how did i miss that! Thats so true.
Ah yes, "Imaginary Tree" thing
copy and paste strikes back
My brother in Akivili, this is not just some simple copy-and-paste.
Have you read the Alien Space manga?
@@pmayo7894 this is not a simple copy and paste,that s an amazing copy and paste
@@vuototetro0 - dude again, read Alien Space.
@@pmayo7894 dude again,that s an objective lazy and bad copy and paste
This collab good, it better has straight collab with honkai impact.
What collab?
Give me a HI3 Kiana in HSR pls 🥳
@@off-beatdrummercollab event
@@ธนบดีพิมภักดี - to be kinda fair, it may not exactly be a collab in a traditional sense considering that Welt is the same one from HI3. Plus, there's also the part where Void Archives is still roaming around within the branch of Star Rail.
Any collab would be fine for me at this point. Only Hi3 and GGZ are getting collabs. Genshin HAS NONE YES NONE.
Hope the HSR team does collabs. They could just add a separate timeline in the Fate Atlas for Collab stuff and not have it interfere with the main storyline. So people who scream about canon/non-canon shit can stfu.
Sigh, in japanese. :(
I better see a Kiana in this world too otherwise this isn't a real Honkai game anymore