The BIG problem with free DAWs (The Cakewalk Issue)
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Cakewalk is no longer going to be free. Bandlab has announced they're replacing this free daw with other paid products. In this video, I share my thoughts!
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this video is trash. you're just throwing opinions out there. What is the 'scandal', dude?
cakewalk it's not a joke - it's a true sound designer dream - only problem was it was bought out - went to down the hole- but the original creator made this incredible software -
I just came here to protest the title and the implications of the thumbnail. In this video, I found neither a scandal, or any functional description of Cakewalk being trash. I have Reaper, Studio One, Cakewalk, and Logic Pro. Having used them all for different clients, it's important to note that every DAW has its strengths, weaknesses, aesthetics, and workflow quirks. As I work with different clients, each with unique histories, my passion for declaring the One True Best DAW has faded into "whatever floats your boat" because nobody else really cares about the tools if the interoperability and results are good.
Very misleading title and thumbnail when you consider the content of the video. It's delibately clickbaity and inflammatory.
Thanks for saving the time of watching this
A man who knows what he's talking about here 💯
I make videos, I want to make my own soundtracks. What would you recommend, I want a good one. I do not mind paying for it.
Guys, this guy is just a dick and an ass, ignore him, simple.
I paid for Sonar Professional in late 2016, right before Gibson killed it, which was archived, thankfully, by Bandlab. They didn't have to do that. So it didn't start off as free.
I had an issue where the DAW unexpectedly converted over to demo mode and I had no idea what happened. I emailed Bandlab and and they got my password updated and I reinstalled the DAW back on to the computer. Very helpful and even after building a new computer I installed Cakewalk, which has worked well. It has some issues, but I really like the sequencer and tempo track. I'll record a scratch guitar, then build a drum track from Spitfire Hammers for skins and Abe Laboriel for cymbals. Copy individual drums to their own tracks. Mess with the tempo a small bit to breathe some humanistic features into it, then record all the guitars, bass, and what ever other production elements I wish.
Cakewalk used to be a go to in the past. I see it coming back as a contender with the more popular DAW's in the future. It definitely still works for the home recording enthusiast.
get the best i guess ill go for that thank you
I use cakewalk and love it. I have no issue paying for the new version as long as it isn't a ridiculous price
Right me too, I wish they would hurry up and come on with the price so I can know.
I used to use cake walk , and to be so honest I feel like studio one is better , and if you get the studio bundle , you get studio one 6 for free
Yeah I use it and works totally fine for me, I used to use it when it was owned by 12 tone systems. Once they discontinued sonar I went to Samplitude Suite for about 4 versions, then went "back" to cakewalk (bandlab) never seemed lacking in comparison for what I do, I'll continue to use the free version even without updates. I'll eventually move on to something else, but in no hurry.
@@attainableaudio4533 plus you get a drumset plugin called Roland Groove Synth which in itself is really good...
Good point. Maybe it will actually be competitively priced like Reaper is.
Tracktion Waveform . . . Been rocking through the highs and lows and have gotten quite comfortable with it.
I paid for Cakewalk for years, even paid for the lifetime upgrades feature. Any of these companies can do what Cakewalk has done to their users.
I agree. Also a great reason to be DAW agnostic
It wasn't actually CW, it was Gibson, who had gone on a spending spree and ended up overextended.(Like you, I paid for CW for years, including the lifetime upgrades.) But to your point, do you recall when Apple bought Emagic (to obtain Logic), then told Logic users running Windows they were SOL?
I did the same. Except I purchased the Platinum version 2 weeks before Gibson dropped the brand. So i rode out the existing software and then switched to the Bandlab version as time went along. Now if they just keep the software as is, i'll just continue with the free version and I'll be find with it. If I need to pay again, I'll probably switch DAW's at this point. I'm not sure if I'll find anything better or not, but I've been using Cakewalk/Sonar since 2003 and maybe it's just time for a change.
I went from Cakewalk [in 1998] to Sonar to Cubase. Now Cubase 11 + 12 are buggy and I can't get the dongle to work on my new win10 system [not surprised]. I reverted to Cubase 9.5 just to avoid the new bugs, but still has too many problems and I don't want to fuss with the damn dongle anymore.
So I decided to check out Reaper, but you need to be a professional audio engineer to figure out what anything actually is or does..... what a time-wasting nightmare. And there is no real stable way to set up VTS's like Kontakt, with multiple MIDI cannels that work like in Cubase [I've checked everywhere, and there are only mind-numbing work-arounds], so I'm moving on to Cakewalk, which is apparently still free - they haven't charged me yet, at least.
5:50 same for me with Ableton Live Studio
former Cake Sonar Bandlab user here. I´m back on Cubase 12 now - and finally very happy. There´s so much great stuff in theses times... Wow. Higly recommend.
"Cakewalk is for beginners who just want to play around with making music"???? Does this guy know that Sonar was close to a $600 program before Gibson killed it? Sure the bandlab version doesn't give you all the plug ins but this is professional grade recording software....
I think he meant to say Bandlab and not cakewalk.
if I had known this. I'd never had used Cakewalk
I use cakewalk and love it. I tried at least 5 DAWs and keep going back to cakewalk because it had everything i need and it's smooth and easy. I send all my stuff into bandlag from cakewalk as an audio file with all my plugsins. This way i can send it to my friends to collab and still get the sounds we want in bandlag
ineed your assistance bruuuuh
It runs way too heavy for most computers .
My problem with Cakewalk is that there was always some kind of fixing I needed to do or find something in some obscure location. Not to say that DAWs don't have a learning curb in general but this program seemed like it took extra work to do basic functions. Yes, the features were there, but getting to them was another story. When I switched away from it, it was a breath of fresh air. The REASON I used Cakewalk was because it was free. I wouldn't have paid for it like I'd gladly pay for other DAWs. If they're gonna go paid, they need to clean it up a bit. Has tons of potential, but not quite there.
I made the switch from Cakewalk to Studio One about 8 months ago.
I’ve started to use Studio One quite a bit this year, probably more that I use CbB.
trialed and demo'd every daw a few years back and cw was one of the only ones I stuck with. ones that cost 100's I found to be unintuitive messy convoluted and honestly thought were a waste of money when reaper is fine, renoise is ace and cw does the job perfectly. on the face of it the idea that you get what you pay for sounds logical but you really have to do investigation on a case by case basis and not dismiss everything that is cheap. there is a ton of stuff out there that is kind of a hidden gem and deserves way more praise than it gets.
Tbh, it’s a good DAW to have if you don’t have any money, but I wouldn’t recommend it for like actual professional use
that's very sad....it was pretty cool.
I used to create my midi songs in Voyetra Digital orchestrator Plus, back in the 90s... :D - loved it
Great video. As a Cakewalk user who just stayed through the chaos because it was easy, I'm totally fine with being charged. You make complete sense to me.
Cakewalk can't install like everytime it's going to finish it just restarts itself
2:36 Bad comparison. The company that can do that is Yamaha with Cubase. For that to happen, Presonus should make most of their money from hardware. Blackmagic cameras are industry standard like Yamaha's audio hardware.
They did something to latest cakewalk version , used to b cool, it suddenly went mute when all other apps have no issue and so far nothing works for me seems like u have to read their whole manual to figure out something as basic as to get output which erases all the cool features it may have
Dope
Should’ve stuck with making z3ta
it might be discontinued but at least you can still download it, I don't mind missing free features,
if you can make da musik you make da musik.
I use Cakewalk every day in my studio. I actually started with Sonar in 2000. Paid $300 or $400 for it back then. I ran tons of sessions for clients on it, so when I got back into production in 2018, I looked it up and saw it was free, which I totally didn't expect. It's full featured, except a sampler which would be great once we're paying, and works great. I have other DAWs like FL Studio, MPC Beats and Ableton Lite. Oh and Mixbus. I paid for those except Ableton which came with an Arturia controller I bought. I think a paid situation for Cakewalk is good if they are able to do more development and give us integration with hardware. It tends to get lost in the conversation of DAWs, but it really derserves more attention as the OG DAW.
Cakewalk DID cost lots of money. Then it was free. Yes, the free version was the full blown most expensive tier of the software at that time (2018). There have been several awesome updates between them and now WHILE remaining free. I love Arranger feature. I will gladly pay for Cakewalk in the near future. No pricing available yet.
An important distinction: the product that BandLab have been freeware licensing for the past 5 years was feature comparable to SONAR Professional, which sold for $199, not SONAR Platinum, which sold for considerably more. SONAR Professional was the 2nd tier down from the top of their line. The core DAW program itself was the same in the two different versions, but Platinum came with bunch more virtual instruments and FX. No matter who says so, Cakewalk By BandLab was never "free to use SONAR Platinum." It was (pretty much) "free to use SONAR Professional. So far, it's unknown what virtual instruments and FX will be included with the new payware Cakewalk Sonar.
Cakewalk wasn't always free.
Im using it for free rn whatchu mean
I'm new to DAWs and so far I've tried Reaper, Ableton and Cakewalk. So far, Cakewalk has been by far the easiest to use. The amount of hours I wasted with problems getting Reaper to work is ridiculous. Ableton was better but the UI isn't that user friendly. So at the moment, I'm quite happy with Cakewalk and at the time of writing this, the free version is still available.
_MY_ father's favorite saying was _"You can lead a horse to water, but bats don't fly backwards on the weekend."_
Dad used to drink a lot.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If you want free that'll never cost anything, go with an open source project like ardour or lmms. They'll never be able to suddenly remove the free part, and if there's some feature/improvement you want, you can make it yourself if you know some programming.
I can't afford to buy the cheap one once, how am I supposed to buy the quality one once?
I kept getting pushed out of cakewalk and left being stuck in the bandlab daw and for me it’s umm mediocre at best ,so I settled with waveform and it’s great😊
You are saying wrong bro 😅 Because i Still Use That Daw free and no problem 🎉
I believe Cakewalk/Sonar’s biggest strength has always been their support for external hardware using instruments definitions. That is the main reason I still have it. Every piece of gear I own talks directly to/from it. Further development and ongoing support does involve costs somewhere… I’ll wait and see on this until we know more details
They never had a .ins file for the Korg M50.
@@abc456f nor motif 😂 but you could always find it with a quick search
This is just some guy going on about his business phylosophy. no real info here.
I have been using Cakewalk since it was called "MidiMan" when it used to run on a 1.44 MB disk. I can remember all of the headaches of putting a computer together just to run the numerous versions over the years. I really liked the improvement to Cakewalk Pro Audio and then the migration to the "Sonar Producer Editions". X3 was really good and if not for the "business" side of the company running its internals, it was definitely worth the price. The customer service and support for Cakewalk was always available and Noel always had the foresight to bring "musical composition" on the windows side to reality. I can remember "burning" my hard disk and then moving on to "Laser Engraving" for the albums worked on back in the day. The re-issuing of the "Sonar" name is not new, but should definitely be some form of upgrade from the previous versions. Knowing all of the ends and outs of Sonar back then, in this day and time I really do think you could still be able to knock out a really good sounding "EP" with just that software if you can get a system to run it today. So I am a total "Presonus Studio One Professional" user and am totally happy with that platform and all that it does. But I cannot put forth enough thanks to "Noel" and the cakewalk staff that let me dip my feet into the world of digital audio workstations, and move from my KORG X3 and my Yamaha X5 keyboard workstations along with my Roland Keyboards, and my General Music Pro 2 Real Pianos to a DAW platform that incorporated all of my external gear at a very reasonable price point throughout the years. For that "Cakewalk", I am grateful for the teaching and learning experience. That is not to say that I don't really appreciate the path that Presonus is taking with the direction of Studio One Pro. Between Gregor and Joe Gilder, they are definitely taking the software and the platform in the right direction with the aids that they constantly provide. Thanks for sharing.
Cakewalk wasn't MIDIMan; it was Twelve Tone Systems, later Twelve Tone DBA Cakewalk. (I also had it on a floppy: wincake.exe.) MIDIMan was MIDIMan, now M-Audio. I had a couple of their MIDI interfaces, including the 4x4/S; 4-in, 4-out MIDI with SMPTE sync input. Rock solid syncing with my VCR.
The good 'ol days. We spent hours on a Korg X3 and loved Sonar,too. Cheers
What free software can i use with my Push 1?
Dude! Love the explanation. Love what you do. So helpful!
I've used both Studio One and a Cakewalk user since Sonar 1. I found that the free software "Cakewalk" versus Studio One, there was no real difference except the price. I've produced good products using both. I'll pay for Cakewalk if they are going to try and compete for paid DAWs. Bandlab is keeping the free verson of Cakewalk but will no longer update it. Bits are bits. The computer doesn't care what DAW you're using. The operator is the important key to any DAW.
Thanks for this comment. I'm trying to figure out which free daw to get, I just want to play my MIDI keyboard while I wait to move in my upright piano. The thumbnail and title makes it seem like cakewalk won't have a free option at all.
Yes. It's a misleading title. The guy should change it but I think he likes click-baiting for views. @@messier97
Every thing I record on cakewalk it comes out like a sped up chipmunk 🐿
DAMN! Nowonder it will no longer let me login, they demanded an update and now I can't get in at all unless I pay----NO THANKS!
The online version of Bandlab's "DAW" is awful. Cakewalk by Bandlab (the actual program that you download onto a Windows Machine), is VERY good, but it is the same as the paid version I bought from Cakewalk in the 2010's. Which I still have. I will not pay for another unless there is some magic going on, since I have used Cakwwalk since 1988 (longer than most of you have been alive). I can always go back to my version 6 of Sonar (it runs fine on Windows 11 and is 64 bit). All the DAWS now are only as good as the cross platform plugins they all use (and rely on).
If you have never used Cakewalk, you honestly have no idea how good it really is, and I'm assuming you use a Mac which is very sad.
I still use that version too. I actually downloaded the bandlab free version, but to me it wasn't much better so I went back to Sonar. We do all our recording and most of our mixing in Sonar, then master at another studio in logic or protocols.
Been using cakewalk DAW since pro audio 9 but it went from cakewalk to sonar back to cakewalk back to sonar😂
I use DaVinci in my career everyday. I’m one of those few that uses the studio version. I believe that Blackmagic makes most its money from their cameras. I mean, I’ve contributed plenty of times, haha.
I totally agree with you r viewpoint. When it comes to paid DAWs, heck, I even paid the $60 for a licensed Reaper version because I know how much work went and still is going into that product. Studio One (next to Reason 12) has become one of my favorite DAWs. When it comes to Cakewalk - meh, let them do whatever. I can still use my current free version when I want to. In the past, I paid for Sonar 6, 7 and 8. So, I don't feel bad about this at all.
@@calwatch1496 whew, ty, that's all i needed to know
why did i watch this video? its a long self serving commercial. Oh and I will probably pay for the new sonar/cakewalk version
I started with Presonus Studio One back in 2011 and have never looked back! It's really that good!
So, you're still using Presonus?
Cakewalk is better...! I switched over from Samplitude, having used Studio One too, and have tried Reaper as well. It's very robust with 64-bit VSTs and doesn't crash with Oversampling.
“Bandlab, knowing the audience they serve”
you left out
“serious musicians that are just broke as fuck”
yes thats the wringer Im old i know about those things LOL and have actually used one a few times ! yeah like I said im old :) !
or sorta like pro tools. which crashes constantly. you get what you pay for.
I knew eventually they were gonna make people pay for this DAW. That's why I never downloaded it. I'm an FL Studio and Ableton guy. 👍🏾
Cakewalk really good to use but i am cakewalk users. But i see the new product in cakewalk download page.many people say he no longer free 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I was a Sonar user for a couple years prior to Bandlab. Bandlab version kept crashing my PC, so I moved on to Reaper. I’ve tried other DAWs since (most recently Pro Tools), but nothing has given me a reason to switch.
So glad you are a studio one guy 🤘🏼🤘🏼🙏🏻
Me too haha
Hello, after signing up and being accepted for the Bata for the new Sonar Platnum I haven't gotten any info, or notification from the
Cakewalk threads. Has anyone gotten any info as to what the heck is going on with them? All treads on the Forum seem to be locked. 😬
Makes sense why I can't install it. Windows blocks it and will NOT let you install it even if you run it as administrator.
Wow, happened faster than I thought. Sorry you missed out. I'm waiting to see what they're going to charge for the new Sonar, but unless it has a lot of extra features and the price is reasonable, I'll continue using CbB. It's very stable on my win 11 desktop and I've been using a version of it for over two decsdes.
I used Cakewalk most of my life and even professionally until about 2 years ago. Its a fantastic DAW especially for those who produce and record / mix. I think it handles both well. And other DAWs are just catching up to some of its midi features. Im super interested to see how the new Sonar comes out. Although it will be hard to pry me away from Studio One at this point
@@calwatch1496 couldn't agree more all the way around. And for those reasons I'm def keeping an eye on the new sonar. Even tho I'm loving S1, I won't rule out a switch back if it's tempting enough. Or at least enough for me to become a 2 DAW kinda guy
I’ve started to use Studio One more and more this year.
Studio One is the DAW that i switched over to from cake i really love it@@baub58
through the ringer means you got fucked up on the ring
I still have CakeWalk downloaded on my pc can I still use it?
Yes.
i recently downloaded it and it just stopped working. i already own ableton, but it doesn't bridge vsts like cakewalk does, but i can just buy reaper for sixty bucks to do the same thing... i learned music production on cakewalk, so i was curious, but it just borked, and i didn't care to fix it. ableton is way better, and so is reaper.
I wouldn't mind paying like 50 bucks for cakewalk if it's the same as i remember it being a year and a half ago. If not, it doesn't matter to me since i plan on just sound designing on my computer and bringing it all together on my phone using caustic 3.
Man this really crushes my soul. I'm only 14 and found a thing for making beats. It's been a struggle just trying to understand most of this stuff. But also coming from a pretty much broke family. I've been using soundtrap made by spodify i believe only because it is the only thing i can afford. I've looked at some of the paid ones and i seen FL Studios and tried the free offer. Besides most of this stuff being new to me it was honestly a decent experience. It's really heartbreaking when i see other people with my passion that are like 8 years old doing 1000 times better than me. There's a lot that just overwhelms me when it comes to making beats. Honestly i've wanted to give up for a while now. It's just so difficult not having the right tools. Obviously it's still possible, but when i compare my beats to other people on youtube or whatnot, it just makes me lose motivation. Also sucks not having someone "hands-on" To show me. It would be so much easier if i had someone with me in person to help me with a few things. Most tutorials on youtube are so confusing from a beginner standpoint. I only have a year of experience with soundtrap and i've hit a roadblock where i feel like in order to increase my quality any higher i must purchase an actual daw. But 200$ for FL Studio???!! I feel like its all just too much.
lmms exists, but it is extremely confusing for no reason
MPC Beats, Tracktion Waveform, Soundbridge...Still a few free options out there to try.
Same man. I'm going into my senior year and trying to find a decent and affordable software to help develop my portfolio
felt like i wrote this comment myself. i've been wanting to make music for a while, but i'm not smart or hardworking enough. just trying to find a daw and start learning seems like the hardest step for me now. also, the thing about people being better at things than you is relatable. it just makes me want to stop before i even started, not try to be like them. but at least you're trying, unlike me. don't give up on it.
hey hey hey, listen you are 14! it´s amazing that you are already working on this. if you stay consistent, and love what you are doing, then making music can and will become your lifes passion! you say someone 8 years old is better at making beats? yeah may be that in that moment, when they first tried they are in an experimental mindset and out of this curiosity they make a cool beat. which does not mean that what the beats you are making are less good, they are different! they are you trying to actually learn how a daw functions, they are your steps to building that skill and thats amazing! don´t be so harsh on you! do what you love and do it often and you´ll be fine!
Love Cakewalk since the beginning. It’s not like I wanted to stop paying and get it for free but I was ecstatic when BandLab resuscitated it. It seamlessly picked up where it left off when Gibson abandoned it and I’m more than happy to support its continued development by paying for it. Everyone has their favorite DAW, and I wouldn’t try to convert anyone but people trashing CW/Sonar or saying it’s entry level just like hearing the sound of their own voice. Anyone capable of critical thinking can look at its track record and specs and realize this, and then quietly move on to their DAW of choice. PS Clickbait self serving title IMHO
i have use cakewalk all my life.
I'm working on a project and tried to open a new project and it's disabled for some reason. Has Cakewalk gotten rid of this feature?? Is this going to affect my other projects?
Is there a way to save the audiotracksetup so that I don’t need to do every time the same so that I don’t need to describe the audiotracks everytime again ?
Yes, once you have the tracks set up the way you want then save the set up as a Cakewalk Template (.ctw) in the Cakewalk Templates folder. Once you open the template and start recording a project be sure to save that as a normal Cakewalk project or you'll overwrite your template.
I agree with much of what you said here ... EXCEPT ...
Cakewalk is certainly NOT a 3rd rate DAW. I've been using the different variants for years. And when they charge me for the next variant I will gladly pay for it.
Peace.
I got my version of Studio One 6 Artist free with my 24c audio interface. Fantastic bargain.
I got my Artist version with a similar Studio 68c. I jumped into S1 for one simple reason, I could send audio in, add plug-in FX, and get it to come back out the USB interface to my Livestream. All without ulcers, headaches, and hair pulling.
Nah, you paid for it when buying the hardware. Something isn't free if it requires the customer to buy something else.
I hope that they tried Cakewalk with dignity. It's pretty much the Windows equivalent to Logic.
I rather have to pay for it but will only remain doing so if the updates are of plenty and quality.
I've used Cakewalk (Sonar) since the late 90s and bought every upgrade including the Gibson SCAM for Lifetime updates that they ran on the community just before abandoning it. I always liked at and want to point out that the free version has all the features of the top level Sonar that used to cost $500 except some of the virtual instruments. That said, I agree with you when you say you saw this coming. Me too. And also, those who pay pay attention! I'll be going to Studio One soon. What's sad to me as a lifetime SW developer is that CW USED to be better than anything out there given that I didn't EVER want to buy into Pro Tools. Top management and corporate greed have ruined the life's work of many (the CW dev team). It's just sad. I don't predict good things for the planned change by Bandlab.
Sad that you fell for that Gibson scam. I never felt right about their entire sub service. I knew it was bad news. Just left my Sonar out of date for years until Gibson ran CW completely into the dirt.
We need to realize that some of these companies are just out for money and “lifetime licenses” and “subscription services” are usually red flags that something isn’t right with a company anymore. Best to avoid that stuff.
Is there someone standing behind you wearing black? OH! It's your chair backrest.
😂😂😂😂 the chair is comfortable but looks like someone is standing there. Imagine seeing that at 3 am when you go to the bathroom. Freaky 😂
IDK my guy i just made the most fire song on a free daw and just uploaded it to my chanel but idk... tell me how i did (shrug)
So we are in 2024 and the Free Cakewalk is still running and running flawlessly. Is there any news on what is going on there with BandLab? And honestly this "Best DAW" or "My favorite DAW" thing is a pure sheet as all the DAWs do the same sheet and it was never about DAW or something. There are free and open source DAWs are available out there and if you ok with mixing tracks, if you have cool ideas and if you know how to mastering your tracks to make those sound juicy nobody will ever give a sheet if you are working in free DAW or whatever.
I had to buy a new interface and it came with studio one...I switched just in time from Cakewalk. Using a DAW that is a PAID software was night and day from Cakewalk
“You get what you paid for”… Many of us who bought Cakewalk Platinum got to see other people get the same thing for free. It’s fine that Cakewalk wants to go paid again. I do think they should have a smaller upgrade fee for those who had the Platinum version when it was dropped. Even as a hobbyist, I started with Music Creator upgraded versions til I got to the Platinum version and enjoyed using it. Maybe it was just ignorance on my part seeing it was my first option. That was a lot to afford though, and I was hot to hear they were giving it away for free. Only good thing was that I could still use all the functionality of Platinum along with the free version as long as it was installed on my computer.
I wanted buy Cubase, but they don't have a free trial version - what am I supposed to do? Just silly.
Your channel motivated me to dump my fist DAW Cakewalk and buy Studio One 6 Pro at the end of 2022!
How about those who had paid big bucks for Sonar X3 Like I did? So now we have to pay for it again?
Dont be worry till Getintopc is there,😂😂
I'll stay with Studio One.
Loved cakewalk, it was the first daw I used several decades ago (back when we just called those programs 'sequencers', heh), and I recall paying for the lifetime upgrade version of sonar x3 more than a decade later just to have it be sold and then more or less discontinued (at least in the short term) shortly thereafter.
That pretty much killed my motivation to do music at the time (of course other interests did come into play) so gotta be honest...I'm now in the market for a good daw again but I'm more than a little leery going for cakewalk again with that experience in the rear-view mirror. Choices, choices..
I’ve used tons of DAWs. I landed and stayed on studio one. That’s my personal recommendation!
@@ProducingInTheBox I appreciate the suggestion! I like a lot of what I see on Studio one and the workflow seems more akin to what I'd like to use, but of course the real 'test' is how it feels in actual use. I will probably end up with the base application of the few DAWs I'm currently considering (SO, cakewalk if they ever /actually/ move on to release a new version, Live and Cubase) and see which one feels most intuitive to use.
I'm a self-taught piano based geezer so loops while fun to play with aren't the 'natural state' for me, but I like a lot of the other flexibility and logic that Live offers, so it's mostly Live vs the rest - at this time. SO (from another video) appears to offer a more intuitive workflow to me but I need to see more of its integration with other tools (HW and SW), particularly my main workstation which I know has very good integration with Live. That bit should be fun, hopefully I don't get lost while testing out stuff :P
Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, SO was not really in the contest previously but after this and subsequent researching it's become a contender to look at for me.
I was one of the original users of Cakewalk in the 80s. I used to converse with Greg H on a global BBS system called MidiNet back in the day, and met him at NAMM 1988. I worked in a studio in San Diego and we sold a lot of Cakewalk packages. Over the years I worked with various versions of Cakewalk/Sonar until Gibson ran it into the ground. :(
I tried Cakewalk by Bandlab and wasn't impressed. It wasn't what it used to be. I use Studio One and Abelton Live now. I wish the Bandlab folks well but for me, that ship has sailed...
Studio One is amazing. So is Ableton. I agree. I wish them well, but it’s not looking good for Cakewalk. Thank you for your valuable insight!
I bought my first computer in 1998, along with Cakewalk 5. I've been an avid Cakewalk user through the years and I think Bandlab has done a good thing here. Cakewalk is just as capable as any other DAW I have used and it feels like home to me. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm happy to pay for this software. Honestly, it's felt too good to be true for a long time.
I wish caustic 3 got updated to a computer port that is the exact same daw just with vst3 support and unlimited racks and effects. I'd pay 200 bucks for that no problem. The ability to basically have 4 pattern banks for each instrument is so crazy and honestly i'd be down for it. too bad caustic 3 was canceled, the absolute insanity that would be a buffed caustic would be crazy. but at it's current state as a phone daw with no vst support and limited effects per rack makes it SO SO SO limiting.
Love DaVinci Resolve! It's great and easy to use. After 4 years of using it I'll finally buy pro version. I do wish my Ableton Live stops crashing, paid for it and am thorough with updates but still it frequently crashes. 7:25
If you watched the video, you’d know I mentioned Davinci Resolve is a video editor and they’re doing the “free” tier in a way I wish a DAW would.
@waltwilliams5159 Ableton is great! What’s your system? I’ve never had a bunch of issues with crashing. Maybe it’s a 3rd party plugin causing the issues?
@@ProducingInTheBox You mention that it's a DAW at 2:43.
Your father was indeed referring to an old timey clothes ringer lol
Reaper costs only 55 euros and it is the most powerful DAW.
It’s a great DAW. Love Reaper
If I'm ever going to pay for a DAW it will be Reaper. Currently, I'm good with Cakewalk. I'm also using Free Reaper VST in Cakewalk.
Nothing is wrong with Reaper...Studio One I spent a fortune on and it doesnt work half as well as reaper
Cakewalk is a great DAW and for your information blows Garage Band out of the water (your dad probably had that line as well). I use them both all the time.
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I agree it's great
The user interface is pretty in Cakewalk. Nicer than most of the other DAWs I have tried.
Wholeheartedly agree. I own four DAWs, but mostly use CbB for the GUI, and will likely pay the full price when it goes commercial. Most of the big-selling DAWs cost hundreds of dollars yet I don't hear anyone screaming "SCANDAL" about them! Never mind that Cakewalk by Bandlab was essentially the flagship DAW called Sonar back in 2017, was made free to its users the very next year (about six years now! - while continually being improved and developed) and yet some people feel cheated somehow because Bandlab has finally decided to charge for their services! Finally, there are two versions of Cakewalk (which seems to confuse a lot of people): - the browser version is the cut-down one, similar to Garageband; the desktop version is the flagship, and as of this writing, has been free since 2018!
I was invested with them, and did almost every upgrade as they came out way back in the mid 90s, but I will not invest in them again unless they can totally blow away all the other good DAWs out there.
When you say "them" - who do you actually mean? Bandlab? Gibson? Roland? 12Tone?
@@philsspace69 Started with Cakewalk 1 or 2 back in the 90s
Studio One Artist 6 is all I need. I make minimal synthpop and at most I may get to 10 tracks and it gets me all the way there. 50 buck for upgrade. Bedroom producer should be using a Artist version of thier voforate day.
Great points, Brother!
sup guys, i wanna be prod and makin some yeat/drake/carti beats, i found Amped Studio, it s pretty good i think, if someone can give me some advices how to makin music or tell me about this daw, i apr u so much
👍✌Shoutout to Noel Bartworth , The Bakers, & ALL THE PROUD CAKEWALK USERS from way back when, to the present AND BEYOND✌👍