Wow I really appreciate the attention to detail in this game. When you went back in from outside the ship (at 3:27), because it was raining you could actually see the water dripping off of Snake's clothing for a few seconds. It's such a minor thing but really shows how much thought they put in everything. It adds up.
And this is why I love Kojima games. In Behind the Scenes of MGS4, the Snow/Dust was missing on the ledge when strafing left and right while hanging. He wanted to polish the game even more but in doing so it would create more Bugs. One of the Staff proposed to halt any Revisions to Stabilize it to be on time for Release but Kojima insisted to meet Players Expectation
I can't get over the fact that the arm somehow contains Liquid's personality, memories and his british accent XD (Unless he stole some of his brain too?) That Metal Gear design is sick. Sort of a bird like thing with a huge swishing tail. I love it. And it swims! Reminds me of dinosaurs too
As a brit, i can reveal our secret - we're not people, we're just arms. The rest of our body is a tea storage facility designed to facilitate easy acquisition and consumption of tea.
I don't think it's displayed like other characters but Sergei was voiced by Earl Boen, a prolific character actor your sure to recognize as the voice of Coach Oleander's, psycho butcher, father in Psychonauts, but he was also most famous as King Terenas in the Warcraft games, as well as the ghost pirate LeChuck in the Monkey Island series. He also appeared in live action as the recurring psychologist character in the first threeTerminator films. He passed away only last year and I figured this would ber a good opportunity for us to remember his distinctive voice again.
I love that your playing this. I wanted to tell you this game has some interaction you can do you can shoot glass, magazines, bottles and even the ice holders and the ice melts if you watch it long enough. As far as why you want to knock people out instead of killing them you get stuff from them easier and rank but I know you don't care about that. Also yes if you shake them they do wake up faster but if you knock them out then shoot them with the dart they stay asleep longer. Few other things the game doesn't tell you while hanging you can do pull ups if you do enough your grip lasts longer and while in first person you can stand on your tip toes I don't know anywhere it helps but it's funny and you can hold people up if you get behind them and aim at them. They drop dogtags first but after they drop other things. Keep it up and buckle in it only get weirder from here.
I think for guards dropping items, it's got a bit of a dynamic difficulty thing going on where they're more likely to drop things when you're low on supplies. So if you already have a lot of stuff, you might have to shake them a bunch of times before it rolls to drop something. Something else you can do, if you approach a guard from behind and hold up your gun, you'll hold them up and they'll put their hands up. You can then threaten them by pointing your gun at their head and they'll start to shake and drop an item. Bear in mind that if you don't knock them out then once you stop threatening them they'll pick their gun back up and call in an alert
Lot of fun easter eggs during that photo section iirc from getting Otacon to look at random photos you've taken around the ship, like the idol posters.
Some short points to make the tight spaces more bearable: Headshots are an instant KO/kill If you hold a gun to any enemy when close to them you can hold them up If holding up an enemy try to not take your gun off them At random some guards may still slowly go for a weapon while being held up, shoot them immediately If they have their hands up you can point a gun at their head when in front of them (or their groin because Kojima) and they'll give you a dog tag and supplies When in first person mode you can still move, specifically you can strafe around people while still holding them up
One of my favorite easter eggs is messing with the projector by going up to it and pressing the botton to hit the next slide. The speech goes on and on while the marines keep looking confused but switching their attention to the new slide. Of course Kojima is Kojima and the slide's content eventually changes but I still think its one of those everyone should experience lol.
MGS2 is by far the craziest plot wise of any game in the series. None of the other games even come close. This is just the tip of the ice berg Welonz lol
Tranquilized enemies will suffer short-term amnesia and won't remember what happened to them when they wake up (unless they have bodily injuries) hence the M9 is the most overpowered weapon in the MGS games. As Otacon said, the tranq effectiveness depends on where you hit the enemy. Vital areas such as the head, heart and groin will result in an instant KO hence use the first person view and aim with the analog stick for wide movements, tap the D-Pad for minute adjustments.
You can press the (iirc)shoulder buttons during codec calls to hear the character's thoughts.
Easter eggs this episode from the top of my head: -You can mess with the video projector multiple times. -There's a soldier in the crowd not wearing pants. -When the timer ends, the commander will feel chatty and keep going for quite a bit longer. -Otacon will react to all kinds of photos, like pics of: posters, the Vulcan doll, Olga, the commander, etc.
And of course, After enough saves, Mei Ling gets fed up with Otacon fumbling the Chinese Proverbs and upstages him, in a pretty hilarious manner. That's the only time you get to hear Mei Ling in person, sadly.
More to the long long list of easter eggs: - On the projector displaying the commander's speech you can see Gurlukovich's forces sneaking around in the background at a certain time. - If at 41:00 you hide in this little space and cause the pipe at the wall to fall down just as the guard passes by, a fun scene plays out in which the guard gets scared by another one. - You can enter the final room with RAY from multiple doors with slightly different cutscenes for each one.
06:02 Don't know about "smart", but missing those buns on the stairs is definitely low awareness 12:25 These guys are even worse 55:32 Disgrace to the family 01:13:28 The president of ArmsTech must have had a hand in it, too
13:55 - You've hit the nail on the head, here! For years now, my big complaint with MGS2 is that most of the areas feel narrow like this; let's hope that there are a few areas that defy this trend, and I've just forgotten about them! 19:34 - Alas, the previous guard you took out was Stinky Fly-Covered Radio Guy; since you choked him to death, the flies chose you to be their new host... 1:13:03 - You've played The Floor Is Lava, now try The Forearm Is Liquid!
actually, the reason flies went after Welonz is because she took his rotten ration, flies stay as long as it's in the inventory but she burned through rations pretty quickly haha
"The La Le Lu Le Lo?!" Hehe! Has Welonz already heard this phrase because I'm pretty sure it's the first time it's mentioned and it's pretty funny, was surprised she didn't comment on it.
You can unequip your gun while aiming by pressing L3. Also, you can shoot your tranquilizers on stunned enemies, so they can forget that they were attacked.
Ocelot keeps getting weirder and weirder by the game, at this point I think it's dementia but nobody has realized it yet. Also, now I realize that MSG2 and Danganronpa 2 both have a white haired character that replace their own arm with the one from the previous villain... huh.
Sorry for repeating this (just in case it helps avoid frustration) - the camera's fighting you because it wants you to press against walls to scope out what's ahead, instead of staying in the normal view where you can't see much. And this one ~really~ punishes you for getting caught! You can press up against cover and pop out to aim a shot without messing around with the first-person camera too - using the cover like that to look around and move while hidden and take shots is an important mechanic (the 'tutorial' for the popout shots is criminal imo) Not telling anyone how to play or anything, I just think it helps to know what Kojima expects you to do sometimes (especially if it feels like something's wrong). The controls are tricky enough as it is!
19:28 the flies follow you because the guard in that bottom area you just killed had flies following him. when you shake down his body and get his ration the flies will follow you instead so I guess his ration was rotten or something. there are all kinds of little things like that that are easily missed. in that room you were just in there were a few interactable things you can shoot at like that big glass panel, the bottles at the bar, the magazines, the monitor on the wall. the ice cubes in the ice bucket at the bar melt in real time! if you shoot at it and watch the ice cubes that come out they slowly get smaller and smaller until they're completely gone.
1:18:05 *sobs uncontrollably* For real though, the best is yet to come. I am so excited for the real game to begin. And I love RAY's autistic screeching (it's okay, I'm legally allowed to say that).
Since it looks like she never got the Easter egg, I can safely say what it is now that this chapter is over. **Easter Egg Below!** You know how Otacon keeps fumbling the Chinese proverbs? After the 13th save, Mei Ling makes a cameo appearance and basically just shows him how it’s done, in hilarious fashion.
You were curious why this is set in a Tanker on the Hudson of all places? Well early in the story's development, it was originally meant to be on a aircraft carrier in the middle-east where it would've been revealed that Liquid had faked his death and was planning on stealing nukes, but this was jettisoned when tensions in the real life middle-east began to heat up again. This was the early 2000's remember. While that probably would've made more sense for a Marine operation and RAY's deployment, you can see why Kojima didn't want to risk controversy, so how he aand his team tweaked things to still serve the story they wanted to tell.
If you don't want to just straight up kill crap tons of people and actually "be like Snake", you could tranquelize a guard after they're knocked out as well. It'll last longer and you won't get in trouble.
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think the tranq option means he has turned a page on being just a killer, but its left vague so no one feels their playstyle is invalid
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think Hideo Kojima uses Snake as a vehicle for his message of world peace, and that you only get the best ranks by killing no enemies enforces this. The ending of the 1st game and MGS4 both also carry these ideas.
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think the op is just pointing out you can sneak around and avoid killing people (which the narrative is explicitly telling you to do, that's "the mission" fwiw) and you're not forced to kill them once you have an oops moment I was just thinking how silly that cutscene looked with Snake hiding while the soldiers opened the door, like it's meant to be tense - which if you've been playing stealthy, it would be! If you've just been fighting your way through murdering everyone it kinda loses what they were going for. People can play how they want, but it's not weird to say there's a way you're ~intended~ to approach it. It's explicitly and implicitly all over the design and narrative
@@deathtoraiden2080 you're not supposed to be having direct firefights (outside of set pieces), that's kinda the point. You're heavily punished for having your presence discovered. Your mission is supposed to be sneaking in, not getting seen, doing the thing and getting out. That's the narrative! And you're given a huge number of tools to do it. Including one that functionally incapacitates enemies long enough for you to escape unnoticed (vs killing them to achieve the same effect) - it's literally your main weapon, designed around non-lethal stealth, given to you at the start of the game with a whole bunch of justification about why it fits the mission and why you should avoid killing people. And you don't even have time to use it against any marines because the story replaces them immediately - they don't actually exist as an enemy, you're given the tranq gun (and all its rationale) to use against the soldiers. That's the game design You only get a lethal gun later, and it attracts attention and punishes you for using it. And if you're using it to fight your way out of a situation, you're not doing the canon "sneaking in unnoticed" thing. You can ~play~ however you like (and you're given the tools to do it) but hiding, sneaking through the environment, avoiding killing people unnecessarily, and being a ghost nobody realised was there is absolutely the vibe the game is going for
@@deathtoraiden2080 like I said, you can ~play~ however you like. Sneak around snapping every neck in the area or go on a guns-blazing rampage if you want! But the narrative and game design is based around stealth, and I dunno why it's a controversial take that Snake wouldn't murder a helpless stunned guy (after waiting around for him to get up) instead of just moving on, or knocking him out with a dart to the butt if he needs more time And yeah, the marines don't exist as an enemy. We're talking game design here remember, not story. The fact you run into some dudes in a stealth set-piece at the end doesn't change the fact that from the moment you were given the tranq gun and told to avoid killing people, your only enemies have been the soldiers. Snake doesn't "happen to still have" the M9 like you said in another comment - they literally designed it this way! They could have given you a suppressed USP at the beginning, or no gun at all - but they didn't. It's deliberate The intent is established immediately, and your lethal options are only broadened later - whether you use them is up to you, but the game is pretty clear through its design how it ~wants~ you to play. Is it really surprising to you that a "tactical espionage action" game with a slew of hiding and sneaking and distraction mechanics, an initial loadout of non-lethal weapons, strong anti-war themes, and a literal "sneak in, don't get seen, pictures of MetalGear" mission might be going for the "vibe" of a hero who sneaks in, doesn't get seen, doesn't kill people unless necessary, and gets out like he was never there, like a badass? Even if you don't agree I genuinely don't get where this wild disbelief is coming from, like these are new ideas in the stealth/spy genre or something I just think the design part is the most interesting bit, how it guides the player towards a certain playstyle without forcing it on them - especially compared to the previous game, where your non-lethal options were way more limited in usefulness. Front-loading the game with a knockout gun and exposition about why you should be using it is really interesting in that context imo, like Kojima saw how much neck snapping people were doing and wanted to provide and encourage an alternative. I just like encouraging people to think about this stuff - especially since it's what makes games unique vs other storytelling media. The design is part of that narrative since it shapes the experience, there's intent behind all these choices
I love the boot screen of the terminal, it looks like a genuine non-Systemd Linux boot sequence. Just very verbose, normally you'd turn all that chatter off because it isn't that interesting. You only turn it on when something's broken, so you can see where exactly it goes wrong.
Lol it would have been 50x easier if you used the tranq. Tranq is really OP. Great job with those photos in 1 shot, though. A lot of people have trouble getting the right angle.
Not sure if it was mgs 2 or 3 but the patrols get more aggressive and more frequent based on your actions. like getting seen or killing people. so sometimes it's better to traq people rather than kill them,
the only thing that changes is ammount of enemies and actions they can perform (like looking underneath things or in lockers) but im pretty sure its based on the difficulty, they didn't introduce adaptive AI until MGSV
while I agree with you guys on the AI not beign changed do remember than some of these behaviour at the time where njot based in AI but rather in certain patterns, the orginal VR missions did had a mention of patrols beign more agressive if the body they found was dead, while this was MGS 1 VR missions and that was not impremented in either game but just a mention in it, MGS 2 GDD does state that kind of mechanic existed in the development process as for its implementation that I cannot verify as at least for me MGS 2 is my least played game of the franchise simply because at the time I could find it and when I got it I had already seen a friend played it. Also this just to say that yes AI was not changed but there where plans to develop a patrol mechanic around it (in its GDD)and I cannot personally say it works or not but there is also a tiny mention in MGS 1 VR missions disc. My source for this is both the GDD of MGS 2 orignal version and some game analysis (I am a game analyst just in case)
The legendary Thermal Goggles. The most annoying MVP item😂 Aiming? For the majority of the game I think it was expected we were going to use the auto aim button. On controller is the left bumper? There is a first person view mode but it still isn’t a first person shooter game I guess
@@deathtoraiden2080 really? Never seen it, I think they should have added it when the game is explaining how to use the first person camera, would've been better than a codec call
They can see someone beyond their cones of vision, but only when their cones are over you they can see you. Did you install a 4K+AI textures mod? Some textures look smoothed out...
There's certainly some eyebrow-raising moments that are sometimes so ridiculous as to elicit laughter, but overall legendary series/game. Sometimes the dialogue is campy, but other times it's so insightful as to be prophetic. Big ups for playing through this 👍
@@griningdemon I do believe it had some importance on the matter but the rapid thing was more because of other elements related to *******REDACTED**********
headshots are instant knock out with the m9. you have to get used to aiming to survive later points in the game this is just the tutorial so i would recommend practicing. also rushing through as you have noticed usually gets you in trouble and it snowballs as later areas become more guarded. you cant just rely on area transitions in this. good luck for the future. also when you are in alert/caution mode you may miss certain cutscenes so try to make it to the next areas without being in alert mode. the section before the triple sensors there was a unique cutscene that only plays under this condition so you missed that for example. (edit) i realized you reset and saw it. maybe you dont care but i just wanted you to know in case you do. hope this helps.
Ah the stupidest plot point in any Kojima game, the magical Liquid arm. Lol! Even by Kojima/Metal Gear standards, this is still so dumb and completely wrecks any semblance of believability, even in a world of psychics and spirit animals. Still, gotta love the intro to Metal Gear Ray.
For any cartoonists, I can only imagine Welonz's new chibi cartoon breaking the neck of a russian trooper chibi while shouting: "Don't scream! Killing people is the best way to handle things... for now." 😂
Fun fact the LaLiLuLeLo is gibberish in Japanese because they don’t have any syllables containing L in Japanese, so for the average Japanese person LaLiLuLeLo is impossible to pronounce properly
That is a factoid often repeated in the MGS fandom but it isn't true. They simply use the normal kana for ra ri ru re ro/la li lu le lo in Japanese. These can be romanized either way, using the "l" variant is probably just because it sounds better to say in English.
Wrong, lalilulelo is just the Japanese equivalent of the American lollapalooza, it is not gibberish because you can simply write it as らりるれろ and read it both ways, rarirurero or lalilulelo, some people might even have a propension to use L in stead of R, they are completely interchangeable as far as Japanese is concerned.
The Japanese 'r' sound is kinda somewhere between an English 'r' and an 'l', depends on the word (and the accent). Really it's just all the kana that start with r read out in order: らりるれろ dang that was fun to type on the Japanese keyboard, you kinda swipe around a circle. The real Konami code
"Bomb disposal specialist Welonz!"
If you see her at the scene, run.
Ah yes, just when you thought MGS1 was insane, MGS2 comes in and say's "This one goes to 11"
MGS1: “I’m insane with my plot!”
MGS2: “Hold my arm.”
MGS2 is a fever dream masterpiece
MGS2 is communication with extra terrestrial reality...
Fun fact, you can hold up enemies by aiming at them from behind without them noticing you. In some games, you'll get some neat stuff.
*Otacon impression* Welonz, sneak up behind an enemy and press the left thumbstick to hold them up! Move in front of them to shake them up!
Wow I really appreciate the attention to detail in this game. When you went back in from outside the ship (at 3:27), because it was raining you could actually see the water dripping off of Snake's clothing for a few seconds. It's such a minor thing but really shows how much thought they put in everything. It adds up.
And this is why I love Kojima games. In Behind the Scenes of MGS4, the Snow/Dust was missing on the ledge when strafing left and right while hanging. He wanted to polish the game even more but in doing so it would create more Bugs. One of the Staff proposed to halt any Revisions to Stabilize it to be on time for Release but Kojima insisted to meet Players Expectation
I can't get over the fact that the arm somehow contains Liquid's personality, memories and his british accent XD
(Unless he stole some of his brain too?)
That Metal Gear design is sick. Sort of a bird like thing with a huge swishing tail. I love it. And it swims! Reminds me of dinosaurs too
There's an explanation for it, kind of lmao
Kojima games are WILD
The explanation is pretty good actually. Don't want to spoil though
As a brit, i can reveal our secret - we're not people, we're just arms. The rest of our body is a tea storage facility designed to facilitate easy acquisition and consumption of tea.
I don't think it's displayed like other characters but Sergei was voiced by Earl Boen, a prolific character actor your sure to recognize as the voice of Coach Oleander's, psycho butcher, father in Psychonauts, but he was also most famous as King Terenas in the Warcraft games, as well as the ghost pirate LeChuck in the Monkey Island series. He also appeared in live action as the recurring psychologist character in the first threeTerminator films.
He passed away only last year and I figured this would ber a good opportunity for us to remember his distinctive voice again.
Holy shit... never realized it was LeChuck
Him, along with the voices for Fatman and Solidus as well as the singer for the ending theme have all passed away.
It's not over yet! Just the second episode!
I love that your playing this. I wanted to tell you this game has some interaction you can do you can shoot glass, magazines, bottles and even the ice holders and the ice melts if you watch it long enough. As far as why you want to knock people out instead of killing them you get stuff from them easier and rank but I know you don't care about that. Also yes if you shake them they do wake up faster but if you knock them out then shoot them with the dart they stay asleep longer. Few other things the game doesn't tell you while hanging you can do pull ups if you do enough your grip lasts longer and while in first person you can stand on your tip toes I don't know anywhere it helps but it's funny and you can hold people up if you get behind them and aim at them. They drop dogtags first but after they drop other things. Keep it up and buckle in it only get weirder from here.
Also when your heath is orange your bleeding if you crouch or lay down it stops it
I think for guards dropping items, it's got a bit of a dynamic difficulty thing going on where they're more likely to drop things when you're low on supplies. So if you already have a lot of stuff, you might have to shake them a bunch of times before it rolls to drop something.
Something else you can do, if you approach a guard from behind and hold up your gun, you'll hold them up and they'll put their hands up. You can then threaten them by pointing your gun at their head and they'll start to shake and drop an item. Bear in mind that if you don't knock them out then once you stop threatening them they'll pick their gun back up and call in an alert
That's neat if true, kind of a similar technology is used in HalfLife2 to dynamically fill the boxes of supplies in that game.
Lot of fun easter eggs during that photo section iirc from getting Otacon to look at random photos you've taken around the ship, like the idol posters.
"Will you stop sending me photos of the Commandant?!" 😂
first person is your biggest friend in MGS2. use the first person constantly and with strategic intent.
Just press X to crouch then move to start crawling. You don’t need to roll.
Welonz, it is NOT necessary to search enemies for items, they are very inessential unless you’re actually low on ammo or rations.
Some short points to make the tight spaces more bearable:
Headshots are an instant KO/kill
If you hold a gun to any enemy when close to them you can hold them up
If holding up an enemy try to not take your gun off them
At random some guards may still slowly go for a weapon while being held up, shoot them immediately
If they have their hands up you can point a gun at their head when in front of them (or their groin because Kojima) and they'll give you a dog tag and supplies
When in first person mode you can still move, specifically you can strafe around people while still holding them up
Thanks for playing one of my favorite games from my teenage years. You're pretty good.
One of my favorite easter eggs is messing with the projector by going up to it and pressing the botton to hit the next slide. The speech goes on and on while the marines keep looking confused but switching their attention to the new slide. Of course Kojima is Kojima and the slide's content eventually changes but I still think its one of those everyone should experience lol.
MGS2 is by far the craziest plot wise of any game in the series. None of the other games even come close. This is just the tip of the ice berg Welonz lol
Tranquilized enemies will suffer short-term amnesia and won't remember what happened to them when they wake up (unless they have bodily injuries) hence the M9 is the most overpowered weapon in the MGS games. As Otacon said, the tranq effectiveness depends on where you hit the enemy. Vital areas such as the head, heart and groin will result in an instant KO hence use the first person view and aim with the analog stick for wide movements, tap the D-Pad for minute adjustments.
You can press the (iirc)shoulder buttons during codec calls to hear the character's thoughts.
Easter eggs this episode from the top of my head:
-You can mess with the video projector multiple times.
-There's a soldier in the crowd not wearing pants.
-When the timer ends, the commander will feel chatty and keep going for quite a bit longer.
-Otacon will react to all kinds of photos, like pics of: posters, the Vulcan doll, Olga, the commander, etc.
And of course, After enough saves, Mei Ling gets fed up with Otacon fumbling the Chinese Proverbs and upstages him, in a pretty hilarious manner.
That's the only time you get to hear Mei Ling in person, sadly.
One more: a kick will make the whole crowd fall over like dominoes
You can smack the Vulcan Raven miniature and it will make a digitized laugh and fire BB's from its little gatling gun.
More to the long long list of easter eggs:
- On the projector displaying the commander's speech you can see Gurlukovich's forces sneaking around in the background at a certain time.
- If at 41:00 you hide in this little space and cause the pipe at the wall to fall down just as the guard passes by, a fun scene plays out in which the guard gets scared by another one.
- You can enter the final room with RAY from multiple doors with slightly different cutscenes for each one.
@@ThreeKes Oh, damn, it was that special spot at 41 mins…
The Metal Gear series is perfectly scientifically accurate, and always will be.
LiquOcelot: "This isn't even my final form"
06:02 Don't know about "smart", but missing those buns on the stairs is definitely low awareness
12:25 These guys are even worse
55:32 Disgrace to the family
01:13:28 The president of ArmsTech must have had a hand in it, too
13:55 - You've hit the nail on the head, here! For years now, my big complaint with MGS2 is that most of the areas feel narrow like this; let's hope that there are a few areas that defy this trend, and I've just forgotten about them!
19:34 - Alas, the previous guard you took out was Stinky Fly-Covered Radio Guy; since you choked him to death, the flies chose you to be their new host...
1:13:03 - You've played The Floor Is Lava, now try The Forearm Is Liquid!
actually, the reason flies went after Welonz is because she took his rotten ration, flies stay as long as it's in the inventory but she burned through rations pretty quickly haha
"The La Le Lu Le Lo?!" Hehe! Has Welonz already heard this phrase because I'm pretty sure it's the first time it's mentioned and it's pretty funny, was surprised she didn't comment on it.
Could've found it in Borderlands 2 Hammerlock's DLC
You can unequip your gun while aiming by pressing L3.
Also, you can shoot your tranquilizers on stunned enemies, so they can forget that they were attacked.
AAAAAAA HOW AM I JUST FINDING OUT NOW THAT YOU"RE PLAYING MGS2!!! AAAAA!!!
Ocelot keeps getting weirder and weirder by the game, at this point I think it's dementia but nobody has realized it yet.
Also, now I realize that MSG2 and Danganronpa 2 both have a white haired character that replace their own arm with the one from the previous villain... huh.
The Metal Gear and Danganronpa series have some surprising similarities. Thematically, this game has a serious amount in common with DRv3.
Liquid Ocelot: "I live on though this arm!"
In a 60 something's body, yeah so much extra time there.
Sorry for repeating this (just in case it helps avoid frustration) - the camera's fighting you because it wants you to press against walls to scope out what's ahead, instead of staying in the normal view where you can't see much. And this one ~really~ punishes you for getting caught!
You can press up against cover and pop out to aim a shot without messing around with the first-person camera too - using the cover like that to look around and move while hidden and take shots is an important mechanic (the 'tutorial' for the popout shots is criminal imo)
Not telling anyone how to play or anything, I just think it helps to know what Kojima expects you to do sometimes (especially if it feels like something's wrong). The controls are tricky enough as it is!
19:28 the flies follow you because the guard in that bottom area you just killed had flies following him. when you shake down his body and get his ration the flies will follow you instead so I guess his ration was rotten or something. there are all kinds of little things like that that are easily missed. in that room you were just in there were a few interactable things you can shoot at like that big glass panel, the bottles at the bar, the magazines, the monitor on the wall. the ice cubes in the ice bucket at the bar melt in real time! if you shoot at it and watch the ice cubes that come out they slowly get smaller and smaller until they're completely gone.
1:18:05 *sobs uncontrollably*
For real though, the best is yet to come. I am so excited for the real game to begin. And I love RAY's autistic screeching (it's okay, I'm legally allowed to say that).
Somehow Liquid returned
The guards do chase you through stages.
Since it looks like she never got the Easter egg, I can safely say what it is now that this chapter is over.
**Easter Egg Below!**
You know how Otacon keeps fumbling the Chinese proverbs? After the 13th save, Mei Ling makes a cameo appearance and basically just shows him how it’s done, in hilarious fashion.
TH-cam be like that, ig
i liveee ooon...
THROUGH THIS ARM
You were curious why this is set in a Tanker on the Hudson of all places? Well early in the story's development, it was originally meant to be on a aircraft carrier in the middle-east where it would've been revealed that Liquid had faked his death and was planning on stealing nukes, but this was jettisoned when tensions in the real life middle-east began to heat up again. This was the early 2000's remember.
While that probably would've made more sense for a Marine operation and RAY's deployment, you can see why Kojima didn't want to risk controversy, so how he aand his team tweaked things to still serve the story they wanted to tell.
Thankfully there were *no other* major real life events that occurred during MGS2's development that necessitated last minute changes
@@CatCheshireThe [Pulls at Collar Nervously]
@@CatCheshireThe*A game with machines destroying entire cities set speciffically in USA developed mid 2000-2002* yeah yeah sure sure
@@deathtoraiden2080 brain injury, yes
That's interesting. But how did they go from 'Liquid faked his death' to 'Ocelot has Liquids arm and magically becomes Liquid sometimes'? Hahaha
Man i love the mgs lore cant wait for later bits
1:12:55 "So, we meet again, BRRRRROTHER"
Those comics were hilarious.
Marine colonel: "Identify yourself!"
Ocelot: "I am Shlashaska.....but your momma knows me as Funkmastermcgee!"
Alternatively, from the highly edited Big Boss Rank playthrough:
Ocelot: "I am Sha-la-la-la-la-la Sha-la-ska."
"I mean Shalashiska. Lashashishkasha. Shiska... OCELOT."
If you don't want to just straight up kill crap tons of people and actually "be like Snake", you could tranquelize a guard after they're knocked out as well. It'll last longer and you won't get in trouble.
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think the tranq option means he has turned a page on being just a killer, but its left vague so no one feels their playstyle is invalid
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think Hideo Kojima uses Snake as a vehicle for his message of world peace, and that you only get the best ranks by killing no enemies enforces this.
The ending of the 1st game and MGS4 both also carry these ideas.
@@deathtoraiden2080 I think the op is just pointing out you can sneak around and avoid killing people (which the narrative is explicitly telling you to do, that's "the mission" fwiw) and you're not forced to kill them once you have an oops moment
I was just thinking how silly that cutscene looked with Snake hiding while the soldiers opened the door, like it's meant to be tense - which if you've been playing stealthy, it would be! If you've just been fighting your way through murdering everyone it kinda loses what they were going for. People can play how they want, but it's not weird to say there's a way you're ~intended~ to approach it. It's explicitly and implicitly all over the design and narrative
@@deathtoraiden2080 you're not supposed to be having direct firefights (outside of set pieces), that's kinda the point. You're heavily punished for having your presence discovered. Your mission is supposed to be sneaking in, not getting seen, doing the thing and getting out. That's the narrative!
And you're given a huge number of tools to do it. Including one that functionally incapacitates enemies long enough for you to escape unnoticed (vs killing them to achieve the same effect) - it's literally your main weapon, designed around non-lethal stealth, given to you at the start of the game with a whole bunch of justification about why it fits the mission and why you should avoid killing people. And you don't even have time to use it against any marines because the story replaces them immediately - they don't actually exist as an enemy, you're given the tranq gun (and all its rationale) to use against the soldiers. That's the game design
You only get a lethal gun later, and it attracts attention and punishes you for using it. And if you're using it to fight your way out of a situation, you're not doing the canon "sneaking in unnoticed" thing. You can ~play~ however you like (and you're given the tools to do it) but hiding, sneaking through the environment, avoiding killing people unnecessarily, and being a ghost nobody realised was there is absolutely the vibe the game is going for
@@deathtoraiden2080 like I said, you can ~play~ however you like. Sneak around snapping every neck in the area or go on a guns-blazing rampage if you want! But the narrative and game design is based around stealth, and I dunno why it's a controversial take that Snake wouldn't murder a helpless stunned guy (after waiting around for him to get up) instead of just moving on, or knocking him out with a dart to the butt if he needs more time
And yeah, the marines don't exist as an enemy. We're talking game design here remember, not story. The fact you run into some dudes in a stealth set-piece at the end doesn't change the fact that from the moment you were given the tranq gun and told to avoid killing people, your only enemies have been the soldiers. Snake doesn't "happen to still have" the M9 like you said in another comment - they literally designed it this way! They could have given you a suppressed USP at the beginning, or no gun at all - but they didn't. It's deliberate
The intent is established immediately, and your lethal options are only broadened later - whether you use them is up to you, but the game is pretty clear through its design how it ~wants~ you to play. Is it really surprising to you that a "tactical espionage action" game with a slew of hiding and sneaking and distraction mechanics, an initial loadout of non-lethal weapons, strong anti-war themes, and a literal "sneak in, don't get seen, pictures of MetalGear" mission might be going for the "vibe" of a hero who sneaks in, doesn't get seen, doesn't kill people unless necessary, and gets out like he was never there, like a badass? Even if you don't agree I genuinely don't get where this wild disbelief is coming from, like these are new ideas in the stealth/spy genre or something
I just think the design part is the most interesting bit, how it guides the player towards a certain playstyle without forcing it on them - especially compared to the previous game, where your non-lethal options were way more limited in usefulness. Front-loading the game with a knockout gun and exposition about why you should be using it is really interesting in that context imo, like Kojima saw how much neck snapping people were doing and wanted to provide and encourage an alternative. I just like encouraging people to think about this stuff - especially since it's what makes games unique vs other storytelling media. The design is part of that narrative since it shapes the experience, there's intent behind all these choices
Welonz: "Gimmie something!"
Guard: *shoots Welonz*
;)
ohohoho! episode 2 is out already?! man that was fast! 👏🏽
Welonz is surprised a ship has narrower corridors than a research and development military complex 😅
This Metal Gear looks even more like an Eva than the previous.
So cinematic. Holy moly.
Also, what kind of environment is orange camo supposed to be effective in? The sun?
"Weird Genetic Arms Dealing" Lmao
I love the boot screen of the terminal, it looks like a genuine non-Systemd Linux boot sequence. Just very verbose, normally you'd turn all that chatter off because it isn't that interesting. You only turn it on when something's broken, so you can see where exactly it goes wrong.
I swear we only came up with DST during WWI to extend working hours. At least that's what I was taught in Britain.
2:35 The reason why you're really bad is because you never do it. Only way to get better is to do it more.
You can crouch/crawl without having to roll you know ^^° just dont move.
Lol it would have been 50x easier if you used the tranq. Tranq is really OP. Great job with those photos in 1 shot, though. A lot of people have trouble getting the right angle.
SNAAAAAKE!
Not sure if it was mgs 2 or 3 but the patrols get more aggressive and more frequent based on your actions. like getting seen or killing people. so sometimes it's better to traq people rather than kill them,
the only thing that changes is ammount of enemies and actions they can perform (like looking underneath things or in lockers) but im pretty sure its based on the difficulty, they didn't introduce adaptive AI until MGSV
while I agree with you guys on the AI not beign changed do remember than some of these behaviour at the time where njot based in AI but rather in certain patterns, the orginal VR missions did had a mention of patrols beign more agressive if the body they found was dead, while this was MGS 1 VR missions and that was not impremented in either game but just a mention in it, MGS 2 GDD does state that kind of mechanic existed in the development process as for its implementation that I cannot verify as at least for me MGS 2 is my least played game of the franchise simply because at the time I could find it and when I got it I had already seen a friend played it.
Also this just to say that yes AI was not changed but there where plans to develop a patrol mechanic around it (in its GDD)and I cannot personally say it works or not but there is also a tiny mention in MGS 1 VR missions disc. My source for this is both the GDD of MGS 2 orignal version and some game analysis (I am a game analyst just in case)
The legendary Thermal Goggles. The most annoying MVP item😂
Aiming? For the majority of the game I think it was expected we were going to use the auto aim button. On controller is the left bumper? There is a first person view mode but it still isn’t a first person shooter game I guess
BROTHER!!!
Love you pretty, best fan of you. You should play MGS3 too, it’s the best one
something the game doesn't tell:
you can aim/stop aiming without shooting by pressing the left stick button
@@deathtoraiden2080 really? Never seen it, I think they should have added it when the game is explaining how to use the first person camera, would've been better than a codec call
They can see someone beyond their cones of vision, but only when their cones are over you they can see you.
Did you install a 4K+AI textures mod? Some textures look smoothed out...
Probably Master Collection being Master Collection…
@@NicoTheCinderace I hope not. I don't recall seing smoothed textures when I played early this year.
Ray now almost looks cartoonish.
There's certainly some eyebrow-raising moments that are sometimes so ridiculous as to elicit laughter, but overall legendary series/game. Sometimes the dialogue is campy, but other times it's so insightful as to be prophetic. Big ups for playing through this 👍
Retcon: Big Boss was actually 37 when the clones were made.
I don't think this is a spoiler.
Technically not a retcon since this info comes from Liquid he also though that he was the weaker clone, so the info might just be wrong again
Still, essentially being born with 37 years off your lifespan is huge. Not sure if MGS4 brought that up as the reason for Snake's rapid aging.
@@griningdemon I do believe it had some importance on the matter but the rapid thing was more because of other elements related to *******REDACTED**********
always aim for the head. shots to the body with the tranq gun suck.
Welonz, would it be okay if you turn down the sound a bit so we can hear the dialogue? The rain conversations especially are hard on the ears.
this game doesn't have separate audio mixes but just 1 master volume unfortunately, I find it hard to hear sometimes too :(
headshots are instant knock out with the m9. you have to get used to aiming to survive later points in the game this is just the tutorial so i would recommend practicing. also rushing through as you have noticed usually gets you in trouble and it snowballs as later areas become more guarded. you cant just rely on area transitions in this. good luck for the future. also when you are in alert/caution mode you may miss certain cutscenes so try to make it to the next areas without being in alert mode. the section before the triple sensors there was a unique cutscene that only plays under this condition so you missed that for example. (edit) i realized you reset and saw it. maybe you dont care but i just wanted you to know in case you do. hope this helps.
And now we play with Raiden, I remember the huge backlash that was over that like twenty years ago, now is nothing more than a fading memory.
Tsk, Welonz don't you know that all arm transplants give you a british accent?
Ah the stupidest plot point in any Kojima game, the magical Liquid arm. Lol! Even by Kojima/Metal Gear standards, this is still so dumb and completely wrecks any semblance of believability, even in a world of psychics and spirit animals. Still, gotta love the intro to Metal Gear Ray.
For any cartoonists, I can only imagine Welonz's new chibi cartoon breaking the neck of a russian trooper chibi while shouting: "Don't scream! Killing people is the best way to handle things... for now." 😂
Fun fact the LaLiLuLeLo is gibberish in Japanese because they don’t have any syllables containing L in Japanese, so for the average Japanese person LaLiLuLeLo is impossible to pronounce properly
That is a factoid often repeated in the MGS fandom but it isn't true. They simply use the normal kana for ra ri ru re ro/la li lu le lo in Japanese.
These can be romanized either way, using the "l" variant is probably just because it sounds better to say in English.
Wrong, lalilulelo is just the Japanese equivalent of the American lollapalooza, it is not gibberish because you can simply write it as らりるれろ and read it both ways, rarirurero or lalilulelo, some people might even have a propension to use L in stead of R, they are completely interchangeable as far as Japanese is concerned.
The Japanese 'r' sound is kinda somewhere between an English 'r' and an 'l', depends on the word (and the accent). Really it's just all the kana that start with r read out in order: らりるれろ
dang that was fun to type on the Japanese keyboard, you kinda swipe around a circle. The real Konami code
I'd forgotten how dumb MG2 is lol.