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@@typxxilps Can you post your evidence on the forum. This was a big issue with the first powerpro and after thousands of pages of arguing with many of the actual engineers from china, we found there to be zero issue. This argument has been brought up so many times and was an issue on older cells, but everything being sold today is able to handle it and the manufacturers have said the same thing. In german?? these are not made in germany.. Does eve manufacture cells in germany now? What cell? Ohh its a youtube video? Can you have someone post actual evidence to the forum or something. Or show proof of a failure.
@@typxxilps we had this discussion multiple years ago with battery chemists and engineers from major suppliers. The distributors verified as well too. Lets see your evidence and post it on the forum and we will check it out
@@typxxilps Oh I know exactly what graphic you are talking about, we posted that years ago on the forum. Cell suppliers have different recommendations now. If you have any recent data sheets or recommendations for newly manufactured cells, post on forum and we will be all over it
Batteries have come so far in the last 5 years. I started with Tesla's, then built my own with 18650's. EG4 is just killing it with everything they make.
Wait for Sodium batteries. The price diff is insane. Even if those carry taxes, the price vs LFP will still be 20%. It's only gonna take an year and a half for them to reach the states I imagine. If you can hold off until then, do so.
Will mentions this is a great solution for an off-grid cabin - however, seems like we're now moving away from just a cabin solution and more towards a full-time standard residence off-grid solution. I'm liking where this is headed.
I want to just cut my line to the power company all together. They can raise their rates all they want. Unfortunately to keep your certificate of occupancy in my jurisdiction I need a power bill. Quite ridiculous.
You're the best Will! Thank you!!!!!!!! Pretty sure you're single handedly keeping the industry honest, fair priced, quality checked, and innovative. Can this be used laid down on its back? Thanks again! Bless
Thanks! I’m gonna have to pick up this set up. I made a spreadsheet to see the consumption of my electrical use for my house. I’m averaging between 4KW and 6 kW a day. I think this could handle my weekly consumption with cloudy days so cool.
Hmm. I've installed 2 separate EG4 systems for my customers. The 1st was an 18K EG4 inverter (outputs 12,000 watts) with a server rack of 30 KWH storage. The 2nd was an EG4 18K inverter with 2 power pro batteries 14.something kwh (28 kwh total). I love the conduit box. Having the pre engineered knockouts saves lots of time. However, when the second battery doesn't have an inverter over it creates a conundrum about how to cover the knockouts. I put some plexiglass under them inside the conduit box and filled the gaps with clear silicon. Wasn't sure what else to do. The price point is great, but maybe not as great as it might seem since they want you to stop ay 10% or higher state of charge. Other lithium batteries can go all the way to zero. The outdoor version requires unscrewing the side panels to get at the display and breakers. Pretty stupid. I like the indoor version. Not sure I would ever get the 6000 watt version. Just get the 18K (12000 watts). Customer support was pretty good at Signature Solar. But there is alot of horsing around with tech support to get the settings right. Pretty weird. I just want to use the batteries for backup when the power goes out, but tech support keeps setting it so the batteries discharge and charge when the grid is working. Pretty annoying. The value is good, but expect to spend hours dealing with tech support and them tampering with your settings, the voltage going too low and setting alarms, and tech support setting the inverter to drain the batteries to near zero in the middle of the night then acting like it was no big deal.
didnt your conduit box come with plugs to seal the top holes? It should have. Secondly these boxes are not nema rated. EG4 needs to fix that. Best way to do so is to include enough conduit knockout plugs for all of the knockouts. RIght now, water gets into my boxes just from the knockouts still being there. They need to be sealed.
@@jgoldenberg123 The conduit boxes came with massive numbers of plugs and fittings. No-one can even remotely criticize them for that. I installed the equipment indoor, so whether tight was never an issue for me. However, putting lumpy plugs into the top of a conduit box where no inverter sits on it doesn't create a nice finished look. If they had not knocked out half of the holes before shipping, that would have been better, and made it easy for me to leave a flat surface for the customer. Otherwise, the conduit boxes may be my favorite feature of the install. They are very cool and useful.
@@gosolxsolar Yea, they are ok, its kind of strange to me to put a seal on the front door of the device where there are so many places water can leak in becuase of all the holes they punched. Honestly, just put some marks on it or something, so that you can drill them accurately. I dont understand how these boxes will ever pass for any outdoor nema rating. Working in the trade, they should let the electrician punch the hole. They are enabling DIYers to do this all wrong by pre-punching the holes. Every installation of these conduit boxes will be slightly different. I cant wait to see what the inspector thinks of these boxes, I may have to surround them with an actual rated nema box. I am very worried.
@@phlogistanjones2722hell I would want to install a "safety" covering before even moving it into position, wouldn't wanna risk something heavy hitting it and bending the front cover
The cell holders actually protrude out to protect the bus bars. They are black so difficult to see. Not an issue if you damage front of battery. The whole cell case would prevent that from occuring. Was an issue on other packs but those had fiber board. This one doesn't need it
Will - thanks for the presentation - This looks like a very viable option. For your power cables, I'd run those on the outside of the connectors (as opposed to crossing on the inside of the connectors). This also keeps power away from communications - which is always a good idea.
Agreed. I was about to drop 10k on one from Costco that contained the inverter 18KWH batteries and the Home Panel. Now I will be spending more but getting components shown in Will's videos and have a much more robust system that will be much better. So glad I found this channel before buying an EcoFlow DPU system.
@bstancel12 Congratz. Will's channel is is Bar-None when it comes to education and understanding of what is available in the market. He is my go-to for tutorials.
As someone who has their setup in the garage I actually prefer this over the PowerPro outdoor model. I like the screen and charge indicator on the front along with the busbars on the top. Now, if only I had waited a couple of months to buy my equipment...
The amount on anxiety as you were holding a crescent wrench above the open batteries - let’s just say I was very uncomfortable even watching it. Awesome system!
Awesome video! I would love to see you do a video focused less on solar hardware, and more on the best ways to lower energy consumption with major appliances, like water heaters, air conditioning/heat, laundry units, etc... How to get the best bang for your buck when designing a home with solar in mind.
I bought my home in March 1984. 40 years of being here. I have had 3 roofs put on since buying the house. The last one was put on in 2019. It's a sprayed on rigid urethane foam roof. The attic gable fan used to run 14 hours a day in the Summer. The thermostat is set to 95F. It almost never runs anymore. The foam roof cut my heating bill by 65%. I don't even have AC. The place stays cool in the Summer until evening when I open the windows all night. I never installed double pane windows. I did lifestyle changes that cut my electric consumption from 24-28 kw per day down to 8-10 kw per day. Not bad for a 2900 sq ft house. I do it for fun. I'm a retired Engineer and found plenty of solutions to live a normal life even if the SHTF and we lose the grid for a few weeks. If I ever build a house it will have 2x6 studs, sprayed in foam, tons of improvements, a real basement, and everything that I could think of to operate efficiently.
I have an Anker 521 and a Anker 535 which are now boat anchors. Thankfully I've moved on with larger plans for the future. Thanks Will for your guidance!
For you and others in similar situations. Is the no way to sell og these second hand and recoup a little of the invested money? Plus, I think the best system is the one you already have up and running. At least in a power outage.😊
I want to THANK YOU!! for all the programs you put out I have been following you since your early early start (RV) really have learned alot. Just bought a complete system XP 6000 w/byfacial batteries and Indoor power wall from signature solar. Thanks thanks thanks!!
I watch a lot of your videos, but this one made me laugh so much. It's nice to see you having fun during your reviews. This battery is nice, but at 1lb per amp hour, I would need surgery after trying to move this anywhere. Thank you as always for delivering very informative entertainment ❤
Nice power bank, EG4 has been stepping up their game. Looks like a 2-cheerio bowl day to move. Still like the outdoor models even if putting in a power shed, basement, wherever, in case of physical or storm damage, with possible water invasion. Having the conduit box might keep it protected just like the weatherproof setups. Thank for the video Will.
Will, thank you for keeping your viewers up-to-date on the latest technology concerning indoor batteries and inverters. This is one system that I will keep my eyes in the next couple of months.
@@klev2008 Depends on the C rate. the 3-5k cycle life per the datasheet is typically at much higher C rate than a battery this size would see under typical solar/storage applications.
Oddly enought, this video went live close to the same time my back went out again. I can barely get out of bed right now. That is a good deal. I spent about 1/3 that much for my ecoflow delta 3 years ago.
The industry is rapidly improving, wasn't but a few years ago everything solar would look hacked together. Now home owners with little experience can install professional and safe equipment on their own for very reasonable cost
I live in a place where I have been without electricity for several days and even weeks to hurricanes, but I still find it difficult to justify spending so much on a battery backup system or even a backup generator. I would be spending thousands on the off chance that I might need it once or twice within 10 years. This makes more sense as an off grid solution though, where power isn't readily available.
Will, you've always been the top go-to authority on solar panels, and electrical components and its processes. A super important question: how do we keep all this safe from an EMP disaster? I've seen videos on anti-EMP attack devices to protect your car, but how do we know these devices stop EMP from damaging our car? Please, please help?
great video I have learned a lot from you, It is important to leave a small gap on the sides of the batteries so you can access the battery breakers they will shut themselves off if you use rapid shut down, and they will need to be manually turned back on.
Will, As big as your house is you have to be getting crowded with equipment. A ranch with a nice big 40 by 60 building would be cool. But that would only take a few years to fill up too LOL Call it Solar Ranch or Star Power Ranch No HOA to dampen the creative mood.
Good stuff, Will, thanks for another great video! And the 'gerbils spinning on wheels' crack was an unexpected and hilarious departure from your normally straight-laced style!
Long time listener... I wonder if you have any system recommendations for the following, where I'd add solar panels later (too many trees I don't want to cut). Note the use of battery until it's drained, then go to generator...: Normal mode: utility >> eg4-18kpv >> battery >> home panel Outage mode battery available : utility >> utility outage >> eg4-18kpv >> battery >> home panel Outage mode battery out: utility >> utility outage >> eg4-18kpv >> generator >> battery >> home panel
6:17 One suggestion to PowerPro for this pack is adding a non-conductive cover to the lid. If something goes wrong (an earthquake that flips the pack or someone/thing kicks it hard that it bends inside) this can become a huge short material.
I built my own 48v 15Kwh battery 2 year ago for $3000, in a steel box lined with closed cell neoprene, with an Overkill BMS.... I had to build it in place due to the weight.
Thanks for another fantastic video! I was just talking with a friend of mine because both of us are building skoolies. We were discussing off grid systems and your videos came up. We both agreed that it would be great to see a video that compared a Victron system paired with EG4 server batteries to a system that consists of the 6000XP and the EG4 PowerPro. Seeing how the specs compare as well as cost would be fantastic. It seems like the 6000XP with the EG4 PowerPro would be a better value, but you are FAR more knowledgeable than I am lol. Aside from specs and price, I REALLY like the compact form factor. It seems like it would take up less space and be a less complicated setup than having all the individual Victron components wired to each other.
The capability and simplicity of this system is great however I wish there were horizontal mounting options for both the battery and inverter. This would really expand the use cases to include RV's (my use case) and other off grid installations.
Excellent, detailed review. Well, if I had to comment, I notice huge efforts made by EG4 trying to keep up with market demand, knowing there are 200A 'BMS' strong competitors that are well renowned. It has such a beautiful, rugged, strong-built case, ropes, flexibile busbars and much-needed add-ons inside (2x fire extinguishing packages, a front smart display, heat pads, an MCB for the DC line, and parallel terminals), which are all a plus. But its lacking when it comes to cell balancing, and with its 120 mA passive balancer, the cells 'can and will' go off balance at some point in time (no matter how matched their internal resistance is). Its low balancing capabilities won't be enough to fix such problems with ease, like a 'JK BMS' and 'Seplos V3.0' would. Also, why do busbars have to be welded? Why not give the option for the user to replace a bad cell? Of coarse, one could drill and undo the stud, but this is a danger that can be avoided by using ordinary nuts other than laser-welded ones. For those who don't know the consequences of unbalanced cells in a 16S battery setup like this, they would be: > Unable to reach the 'Overall pack full SOC' = 58.4V due to either cell(s) reaching their full SOC (3.65v) while some of them are far behind. Hence, the BMS will stop charging because of the individual cell overvoltage protection. > Unable to utilize the full capacity of the 280Ah cells within, the EG4 battery capacity would serve far less than a BMS with optimal active balancer capabilities would. Without being too judgemental here, its not hard to notice how the host (a brave salesman) tend to make his reviews biased toward EG4's favor. Otherwise, why hasn't he, having so much experience, pointed this out already? I let you, as customers & buyers, take the lead. But yes, buying a 200Ah setup would be, 'in my opinion' the most feasible way to go when compared with server rack batteries. Imagine that it just takes two of these setups to have around 560Ah, while one would require a tower rack of batteries (with built-in BMS) to keep up with it.😎 Stay charged and don't get sun-tanned.
I really like to watch you compare and explain the system you make it look so easy I wish I was able to get them like you do for testing 😅 I have a project that I think it would work well but the cost is till a but high for me
I will be buying one next month. Already have eg4 server rack batteries with 2 eg4 3000 inverters. I think I can hook the server rack batteries to the bus bars on top and one communication cable to each battery.
Love it! You should check out the Vatrer 51.2v server rack battery. Outside of the no communications it's very impressive for the price. I think could give EG4 lifepower4 server racks batteries a run for their money. Especially with reliable capacitors and a touch screen display that shows you every cells health
Gotta wait awhile before my next purchase... slowly building my system but I'm thinking next year one of these (probably outdoor) to replace my Lead Acid batteries that I have hooked up. But I'm loving the EG4 18kpv so far.
hahaha great review man. You've helped me decide that i'm going with the EG4 18kpv and 1 or 2 of these new powerpros. I am leaning towards some bifacial panels, about 12 to 14kw of them. I think that'd be a sweet setup for $15k ish *I have recently started seriously researching everything as i'm building a new home. It seems the battery tech, solar tech, inverter/charger tech......all of it is getting better and cheaper at quite a rapid pace. I won't be installing my kit for 10 months or more so who knows, by then it's gonna be even cheaper and better! My 2023 model 3 with the new LFP batteries made me a believer in LiFEPo for sure. THanks !
What a great system & battery setup. Like many others, the battery busbars really should have & need some form of a protective layer, it looks extremely dangerous when opened up & leaves a lot of potential for accidents with exposed busbars like this, if the front cover was hit with something heavy like a car in a garage it could have serious implications.
This is powerful enough to run a house - not just a cabin. Looks an amazing setup. And so easy to add another 14.3kWh! So about half the price of the Tesla Powerwall. The Tesla Powerwall doesn't even confirm it uses LFP batteries (8000 cycles) it possibly uses normal lighter smaller lithiums that can really only cycle 2000-3000 times. They don't confirm what lithium chemistry last I heard!
You should get into electric unicycles! I saw your scooter. EUCs are super fun and efficient and show the true beauty of new batteries and motors. I would recommend the Veteran Lynx for ya.
Looks like the best unit for me. As I would like to have a system like this. But being in the UK we only run 240v. So would need a system that is dedicated 240 only 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Could they have put an acrylic cover plate above the batteries to protect them? Use this instead of a Tesla Powerwall? I know it requires a few more things, but sounds like it would work.
Literally the only TH-camr I would disable my add blocker for. Thank you again for how much you have helped me over the years with all my projects I never buy anything electrical unless you have talked about it. It looks like this may be one of my next purchases I'm about to start an electric boat project but I'm curious would this be ok to mount sideways?
I'll likely choose the EG4 Power Pro when building my system. I'm not planning to install outside but might still pay the extra couple hundred dollars for a little extra protection. Thanks for all of your fantastic videos Will!
I would really like to see how you would hook up 2 or more 6000XP units with Power Pro batteries and the chargeverter. It seems like those bus bars on the battery might be a great place to connect them but I am not seeing that in the manual. Signature Solar suggested a bus bar for combining all this equipment but I would still like to see you endorse that concept.
Love your work and EG4 equipment. Unfortunately only available in U.S. & surrounding areas. No international shipping. I’m in Thailand and we just installed 2x LVTopsun 6Kw inverters, 3x LVTopsun 51.2v 200Ah batteries & 24x Longi 580w PV’s.. I’ve had it running almost a month. Powers a pool pump, bore pump, water pump tank to tank & to house, 6 air cons no issue. Can’t run air cons once the PV’s stop generating electricity as the batteries won’t then last all night. We’re off grid but have company supplied electricity as the “backup source”. Also unable to adjust SOC and discharge from 25% switch to back up source & 40% back to batteries. Not sure what’s going on there as I’d like to go down to 10% switch over to company & 30% back to batteries. This would see me not needing to use company electricity at all. For those interested in costs overseas. My system here cost $14k fully installed. The only downside here is suppliers and installers or companies drop you like a hot potato after installation and they’ve been paid. Never to be seen again. Would love to see a review on LVTopsun brand if that’s available to you & possible to do.
Holy crap I almost pulled the trigger on the eg4 server rack. This is a way better buy I think. Good timing Will. And as always, thank you for the work here. Much appreciated.
Looks good. I'm just shy on all the electronic interfaces. We're on ledge. Had a ground strike last year. Had to replace anything with circuit boards, even non electronics like magnet cabinet closures which blew apart. Even things not plugged in like my wifi hot spot.😢
Will, I live in Georgia. My house has very good Southern exposure and ZERO shade trees. My roof is needing replaced. My electric bill runs $350 to $450 per month. Would a system like this combined with solar to charge it be cost effective? We would keep the house cooler in the summer if the cost was say $250 less per month. Thank you for the excellent video!
The price range of these products is insane. These TH-camrs like Hobo Tech will sell themselves to company’s like Blue Yeti. I think Will hasn’t sold his soul like others.
So if I did my math correctly. This battery runs at 240 dollars per Kwh. 3431/14/3 The EG4 rack mount option (ones with displays) is 290 per Kwh. 8937/30.72. So for a few thousand dollars more you can get 42.9 Kwh. I haven't checked yet, but I imagine that if you already own a rack of EG4s, that these should be able to work in the same network. Regardless, I'm glad that more options are opening up!
I had 14.4k solar installed in 2020. My installer chose AP Systems QS1 microinverters. (Note, without telling me exactly what they were installing). I have 36 400-Watt panels on my roof. So far we have had to replace 2 inverters. Now, after the second inverter replacement, all modules are reporting 1/2 of the output they should have compared to the new replacement. My 14.4 KW system now has a total output of 7.5k max. I'm thinking of asking them to remove all the micro-inverters, wire in string and I'll buy an EG4 18kpv with this battery.
A 300lb sleek box seems gloriously easier to move than my current 2,000lb GNB FLA tubular batteries (x2) that are in their OEM steel boxes. I actually had an engine hoist fail moving them one time, leg just collapsed, even though it was rated for 2,000lb's.
Out of curiosity, how noisy would a full inverter and battery system be in a closet facing an exterior service entry wall adjoining a bedroom? Silent, buzz you sweetly to sleep, or buzz won't let you sleep?
Considerations for off grid use in northern Alaska... do you know specifically how the heaters function? Will they run whether or not there is current coming in or going out (@32f - 41f)? Normally our home is warmer than 45f, but we do occasionally leave long enough for the temp to get quite cold. Would it work to build an insulated cabinet around the system (closed only when left in the cold- no loads- fully charged)?
Love your content! Installer grade content for VARs with enough info for DIY to roll their own with well informed real world product reviews. Top notch!
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0:00 Intro
1:18 Basic Features
4:15 Teardown
6:30 6000XP + Powerpro Install
8:03 Battery Communication Setup Tutorial
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I was so sick on the final few clips, and still have on and off fever today. Sorry about that. hope no one notices
@@typxxilps Can you post your evidence on the forum. This was a big issue with the first powerpro and after thousands of pages of arguing with many of the actual engineers from china, we found there to be zero issue. This argument has been brought up so many times and was an issue on older cells, but everything being sold today is able to handle it and the manufacturers have said the same thing.
In german?? these are not made in germany.. Does eve manufacture cells in germany now? What cell?
Ohh its a youtube video? Can you have someone post actual evidence to the forum or something. Or show proof of a failure.
@@typxxilps we had this discussion multiple years ago with battery chemists and engineers from major suppliers. The distributors verified as well too. Lets see your evidence and post it on the forum and we will check it out
@@typxxilps Oh I know exactly what graphic you are talking about, we posted that years ago on the forum. Cell suppliers have different recommendations now. If you have any recent data sheets or recommendations for newly manufactured cells, post on forum and we will be all over it
Will is probably the only TH-camr that I would turn my addblocker off for.
Thank you :)
I agree. The knowledge he brings to us is by far worth turning ad blocker off.
Agreed. He and his channel taught me many useful skills. Batteries, solar, wiring. I appreciate it
Or use TH-cam premium and support all the content creators you watch
Disabling the adblocker is not even to interfere with the watching experience by showing ads all over the video, only for the clicking of the link.
Batteries have come so far in the last 5 years. I started with Tesla's, then built my own with 18650's. EG4 is just killing it with everything they make.
Wait. You built yours using the 18650s? Wow! What is the size of the bank you built?
Agree! Systems with UPS features too and more!
You can’t make much with 18650 my friend
@@Josephnadeau769 you can, but it is going to be a fire hazard lol.
You are a master at this. Shows you don't have to make a video talking for 5 hours about nothing to make great content. Straight to the point and apt.
My Jackery 500 is now a newspaper weight. This tech keeps getting so much better at warp speed.
Yeah those are pretty bad at this point haha
I mean... when they started selling them at harbor freight ya had to know ...
ugh yeah I still have my Jackery 240 Explorer
Replace the battery with like for like. Did that with mine
Wait for Sodium batteries. The price diff is insane. Even if those carry taxes, the price vs LFP will still be 20%.
It's only gonna take an year and a half for them to reach the states I imagine. If you can hold off until then, do so.
Clear, concise, no BS. Will has no peer.
Will mentions this is a great solution for an off-grid cabin - however, seems like we're now moving away from just a cabin solution and more towards a full-time standard residence off-grid solution. I'm liking where this is headed.
I want to just cut my line to the power company all together. They can raise their rates all they want. Unfortunately to keep your certificate of occupancy in my jurisdiction I need a power bill. Quite ridiculous.
@@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh its still useful as v cheap rented back up tho for if you ever do have downtime
@@zyxwvutsrqponmlkhwhy do you need a certificate of occupancy?
Looking at eg4 complete kit for my toy hauler what do you think???
You're the best Will! Thank you!!!!!!!! Pretty sure you're single handedly keeping the industry honest, fair priced, quality checked, and innovative. Can this be used laid down on its back? Thanks again! Bless
Thanks! I’m gonna have to pick up this set up. I made a spreadsheet to see the consumption of my electrical use for my house. I’m averaging between 4KW and 6 kW a day. I think this could handle my weekly consumption with cloudy days so cool.
@@ShadyD365 yearly avg is 168 kwh
@@ShadyD365 sorry that's 168 kwh month avg
Hmm. I've installed 2 separate EG4 systems for my customers. The 1st was an 18K EG4 inverter (outputs 12,000 watts) with a server rack of 30 KWH storage. The 2nd was an EG4 18K inverter with 2 power pro batteries 14.something kwh (28 kwh total). I love the conduit box. Having the pre engineered knockouts saves lots of time. However, when the second battery doesn't have an inverter over it creates a conundrum about how to cover the knockouts. I put some plexiglass under them inside the conduit box and filled the gaps with clear silicon. Wasn't sure what else to do. The price point is great, but maybe not as great as it might seem since they want you to stop ay 10% or higher state of charge. Other lithium batteries can go all the way to zero. The outdoor version requires unscrewing the side panels to get at the display and breakers. Pretty stupid. I like the indoor version. Not sure I would ever get the 6000 watt version. Just get the 18K (12000 watts). Customer support was pretty good at Signature Solar. But there is alot of horsing around with tech support to get the settings right. Pretty weird. I just want to use the batteries for backup when the power goes out, but tech support keeps setting it so the batteries discharge and charge when the grid is working. Pretty annoying. The value is good, but expect to spend hours dealing with tech support and them tampering with your settings, the voltage going too low and setting alarms, and tech support setting the inverter to drain the batteries to near zero in the middle of the night then acting like it was no big deal.
Sent this post to signature solar head staff. And there are now covers for the knockouts that come with the box.
didnt your conduit box come with plugs to seal the top holes? It should have. Secondly these boxes are not nema rated. EG4 needs to fix that. Best way to do so is to include enough conduit knockout plugs for all of the knockouts. RIght now, water gets into my boxes just from the knockouts still being there. They need to be sealed.
@@jgoldenberg123 The conduit boxes came with massive numbers of plugs and fittings. No-one can even remotely criticize them for that. I installed the equipment indoor, so whether tight was never an issue for me. However, putting lumpy plugs into the top of a conduit box where no inverter sits on it doesn't create a nice finished look. If they had not knocked out half of the holes before shipping, that would have been better, and made it easy for me to leave a flat surface for the customer. Otherwise, the conduit boxes may be my favorite feature of the install. They are very cool and useful.
@@gosolxsolar Yea, they are ok, its kind of strange to me to put a seal on the front door of the device where there are so many places water can leak in becuase of all the holes they punched. Honestly, just put some marks on it or something, so that you can drill them accurately. I dont understand how these boxes will ever pass for any outdoor nema rating. Working in the trade, they should let the electrician punch the hole. They are enabling DIYers to do this all wrong by pre-punching the holes. Every installation of these conduit boxes will be slightly different. I cant wait to see what the inspector thinks of these boxes, I may have to surround them with an actual rated nema box. I am very worried.
@@jgoldenberg123 These battery packs are INDOOR ONLY rated. Not sure which video you were watching.
A thin sheet of acrylic over the internal would be good.
I was thinking Kapton tape/film but ya... if you are opening that thing even once putting some "safety" covering on it appeals to me.
@@phlogistanjones2722hell I would want to install a "safety" covering before even moving it into position, wouldn't wanna risk something heavy hitting it and bending the front cover
The cell holders actually protrude out to protect the bus bars. They are black so difficult to see. Not an issue if you damage front of battery. The whole cell case would prevent that from occuring. Was an issue on other packs but those had fiber board. This one doesn't need it
might defeat the less-than-necessary fire extinguishers?
Does heat and venting become an issue?
Will, the only thing you forgot was when lifting with your back, make sure you use a jerking and twisting motion 💪
😂😂😂😂
“Lifting’s a breeze,
When you bend at the back”
Ow😅
28.6kwh with 12kw power wall for $10k for a good reliable system can't beat that. Thank you for another excellent review
Will - thanks for the presentation - This looks like a very viable option. For your power cables, I'd run those on the outside of the connectors (as opposed to crossing on the inside of the connectors). This also keeps power away from communications - which is always a good idea.
Just this set up alone blows the doors off the New Eco Flow Ultra. So blessed I had not purchased one yet.
Agreed. I was about to drop 10k on one from Costco that contained the inverter 18KWH batteries and the Home Panel. Now I will be spending more but getting components shown in Will's videos and have a much more robust system that will be much better. So glad I found this channel before buying an EcoFlow DPU system.
@bstancel12 Congratz.
Will's channel is is Bar-None when it comes to education and understanding of what is available in the market. He is my go-to for tutorials.
Best solar info channel on TH-cam by far! Thanks for the videos Will!
As someone who has their setup in the garage I actually prefer this over the PowerPro outdoor model. I like the screen and charge indicator on the front along with the busbars on the top. Now, if only I had waited a couple of months to buy my equipment...
Me as well
I wonder if you can put one in parallel inside with the other exterior powrrpro?
The amount on anxiety as you were holding a crescent wrench above the open batteries - let’s just say I was very uncomfortable even watching it. Awesome system!
Yeah thing needs a simple piece of clear plastic a couple millimeters thick.
Hehe it hurt my soul just joking about it 😂😂
I held on tight
Terrifying
It's best to drop the wrench across cell 8 positive to cell 9 negative...and hope those are the only terminals it touches!
Awesome video! I would love to see you do a video focused less on solar hardware, and more on the best ways to lower energy consumption with major appliances, like water heaters, air conditioning/heat, laundry units, etc... How to get the best bang for your buck when designing a home with solar in mind.
I bought my home in March 1984. 40 years of being here. I have had 3 roofs put on since buying the house. The last one was put on in 2019. It's a sprayed on rigid urethane foam roof.
The attic gable fan used to run 14 hours a day in the Summer. The thermostat is set to 95F. It almost never runs anymore. The foam roof cut my heating bill by 65%. I don't even have AC. The place stays cool in the Summer until evening when I open the windows all night. I never installed double pane windows. I did lifestyle changes that cut my electric consumption from 24-28 kw per day down to 8-10 kw per day. Not bad for a 2900 sq ft house. I do it for fun. I'm a retired Engineer and found plenty of solutions to live a normal life even if the SHTF and we lose the grid for a few weeks. If I ever build a house it will have 2x6 studs, sprayed in foam, tons of improvements, a real basement, and everything that I could think of to operate efficiently.
Try technology communications channel for 100s of videos of this
I have an Anker 521 and a Anker 535 which are now boat anchors. Thankfully I've moved on with larger plans for the future. Thanks Will for your guidance!
For you and others in similar situations. Is the no way to sell og these second hand and recoup a little of the invested money?
Plus, I think the best system is the one you already have up and running. At least in a power outage.😊
yes! Current Connected! Thanks Will!
I want to THANK YOU!! for all the programs you put out I have been following you since your early early start (RV) really have learned alot. Just bought a complete system XP 6000 w/byfacial batteries and Indoor power wall from signature solar. Thanks thanks thanks!!
I watch a lot of your videos, but this one made me laugh so much. It's nice to see you having fun during your reviews.
This battery is nice, but at 1lb per amp hour, I would need surgery after trying to move this anywhere. Thank you as always for delivering very informative entertainment ❤
Will is the only one I'd disable ad blocker for
Looks like a wish list item once I get my solar panels back up and running.
What timing! I just got my 6000XP and PowerPro yesterday. What a great tutorial to watch as I put this all together. Thanks!
I love that they are making larger battery packs .less wires equals better efficiency
Nice power bank, EG4 has been stepping up their game. Looks like a 2-cheerio bowl day to move. Still like the outdoor models even if putting in a power shed, basement, wherever, in case of physical or storm damage, with possible water invasion. Having the conduit box might keep it protected just like the weatherproof setups. Thank for the video Will.
Will, thank you for keeping your viewers up-to-date on the latest technology concerning indoor batteries and inverters. This is one system that I will keep my eyes in the next couple of months.
As time goes on, systems are getting more affordable.
Competition does this. Government programs do the opposite.
BUT, what about repairs, warranties? ya just can't call a local repair man.
These need to all give you a custom discount code to use. That would help you and the customers.
That's a great idea!
You had fun on this video and it shows. Happy Will makes for a fun video.
8000 cycles to 80%. Incredible lifespan on these systems.
thats pretty normal these days
@@woodzyfox4735really I thought 3000-5000 was the normal
@@klev2008 Depends on the C rate. the 3-5k cycle life per the datasheet is typically at much higher C rate than a battery this size would see under typical solar/storage applications.
@@upnorthandpersonal gotcha, I like this set up, didn’t think about the C rating playing into it..
It's now the case people will be bequeathing their batteries to their children.
Love the intro. The back braker 5000😂
Oddly enought, this video went live close to the same time my back went out again. I can barely get out of bed right now. That is a good deal. I spent about 1/3 that much for my ecoflow delta 3 years ago.
Not fun :(
Right?! Crazy
The industry is rapidly improving, wasn't but a few years ago everything solar would look hacked together. Now home owners with little experience can install professional and safe equipment on their own for very reasonable cost
I live in a place where I have been without electricity for several days and even weeks to hurricanes, but I still find it difficult to justify spending so much on a battery backup system or even a backup generator. I would be spending thousands on the off chance that I might need it once or twice within 10 years. This makes more sense as an off grid solution though, where power isn't readily available.
So cool that you showed it with a 6000 watt heater!! I had my furnace go out and this setup could have kept my house warm.😊
Will, you've always been the top go-to authority on solar panels, and electrical components and its processes. A super important question: how do we keep all this safe from an EMP disaster? I've seen videos on anti-EMP attack devices to protect your car, but how do we know these devices stop EMP from damaging our car? Please, please help?
Please talk about transfer switch. House to grid or to this system. Also solar panels for this.
great video I have learned a lot from you, It is important to leave a small gap on the sides of the batteries so you can access the battery breakers they will shut themselves off if you use rapid shut down, and they will need to be manually turned back on.
Will, As big as your house is you have to be getting crowded with equipment. A ranch with a nice big 40 by 60 building would be cool. But that would only take a few years to fill up too LOL Call it Solar Ranch or Star Power Ranch No HOA to dampen the creative mood.
Thanks for your videos, things change quickly so it’s great to have you explaining things to us.😊
Good stuff, Will, thanks for another great video! And the 'gerbils spinning on wheels' crack was an unexpected and hilarious departure from your normally straight-laced style!
Long time listener... I wonder if you have any system recommendations for the following, where I'd add solar panels later (too many trees I don't want to cut). Note the use of battery until it's drained, then go to generator...:
Normal mode: utility >> eg4-18kpv >> battery >> home panel
Outage mode battery available : utility >> utility outage >> eg4-18kpv >> battery >> home panel
Outage mode battery out: utility >> utility outage >> eg4-18kpv >> generator >> battery >> home panel
Sending love all the way from Nigeria. You videos have a ton of useful information. Keep the good work going. You are loved.
This seems like an excellent starting point paired with a 6000xp.. awesome..
Oh man, I think i found the system for my off grid cabin. Trophy Battery has some competition now with the price and built in heater.
6:17 One suggestion to PowerPro for this pack is adding a non-conductive cover to the lid. If something goes wrong (an earthquake that flips the pack or someone/thing kicks it hard that it bends inside) this can become a huge short material.
I built my own 48v 15Kwh battery 2 year ago for $3000, in a steel box lined with closed cell neoprene, with an Overkill BMS.... I had to build it in place due to the weight.
Thanks for another fantastic video! I was just talking with a friend of mine because both of us are building skoolies. We were discussing off grid systems and your videos came up. We both agreed that it would be great to see a video that compared a Victron system paired with EG4 server batteries to a system that consists of the 6000XP and the EG4 PowerPro. Seeing how the specs compare as well as cost would be fantastic. It seems like the 6000XP with the EG4 PowerPro would be a better value, but you are FAR more knowledgeable than I am lol. Aside from specs and price, I REALLY like the compact form factor. It seems like it would take up less space and be a less complicated setup than having all the individual Victron components wired to each other.
Thx for keeping us up to date on the battery options !!!
Wonderful
Love that voice …. I have 110% trust in this guy
4:10 ALWAYS make sure to lift with your back in a twisting jerking motion!
Gerbil Generator... that sounds like an awesome April Fool's video for next year. Haha.
🤣😂
Maybe that's what EG4 stands for... Energy Gerbils 4, although I think you'll need to replace the water in their bottles with Red Bull. 🤣😂😆
The capability and simplicity of this system is great however I wish there were horizontal mounting options for both the battery and inverter. This would really expand the use cases to include RV's (my use case) and other off grid installations.
Excellent, detailed review.
Well, if I had to comment, I notice huge efforts made by EG4 trying to keep up with market demand, knowing there are 200A 'BMS' strong competitors that are well renowned. It has such a beautiful, rugged, strong-built case, ropes, flexibile busbars and much-needed add-ons inside (2x fire extinguishing packages, a front smart display, heat pads, an MCB for the DC line, and parallel terminals), which are all a plus.
But its lacking when it comes to cell balancing, and with its 120 mA passive balancer, the cells 'can and will' go off balance at some point in time (no matter how matched their internal resistance is). Its low balancing capabilities won't be enough to fix such problems with ease, like a 'JK BMS' and 'Seplos V3.0' would.
Also, why do busbars have to be welded? Why not give the option for the user to replace a bad cell? Of coarse, one could drill and undo the stud, but this is a danger that can be avoided by using ordinary nuts other than laser-welded ones.
For those who don't know the consequences of unbalanced cells in a 16S battery setup like this, they would be:
> Unable to reach the 'Overall pack full SOC' = 58.4V due to either cell(s) reaching their full SOC (3.65v) while some of them are far behind. Hence, the BMS will stop charging because of the individual cell overvoltage protection.
> Unable to utilize the full capacity of the 280Ah cells within, the EG4 battery capacity would serve far less than a BMS with optimal active balancer capabilities would.
Without being too judgemental here, its not hard to notice how the host (a brave salesman) tend to make his reviews biased toward EG4's favor. Otherwise, why hasn't he, having so much experience, pointed this out already? I let you, as customers & buyers, take the lead.
But yes, buying a 200Ah setup would be, 'in my opinion' the most feasible way to go when compared with server rack batteries. Imagine that it just takes two of these setups to have around 560Ah, while one would require a tower rack of batteries (with built-in BMS) to keep up with it.😎 Stay charged and don't get sun-tanned.
What actual BMS does the Indoor Powerwall EG$ battery have? Is one able to get a phone app to monitor it and/or change settings?
I really like to watch you compare and explain the system you make it look so easy I wish I was able to get them like you do for testing 😅 I have a project that I think it would work well but the cost is till a but high for me
I will be buying one next month. Already have eg4 server rack batteries with 2 eg4 3000 inverters. I think I can hook the server rack batteries to the bus bars on top and one communication cable to each battery.
Love it! You should check out the Vatrer 51.2v server rack battery. Outside of the no communications it's very impressive for the price. I think could give EG4 lifepower4 server racks batteries a run for their money. Especially with reliable capacitors and a touch screen display that shows you every cells health
Your videos literally helped me build my first solar with victron system . :)
@DIYSOLARPOWERWITHWlLLPROWSE any time
Gotta wait awhile before my next purchase... slowly building my system but I'm thinking next year one of these (probably outdoor) to replace my Lead Acid batteries that I have hooked up. But I'm loving the EG4 18kpv so far.
hahaha great review man. You've helped me decide that i'm going with the EG4 18kpv and 1 or 2 of these new powerpros. I am leaning towards some bifacial panels, about 12 to 14kw of them. I think that'd be a sweet setup for $15k ish
*I have recently started seriously researching everything as i'm building a new home. It seems the battery tech, solar tech, inverter/charger tech......all of it is getting better and cheaper at quite a rapid pace. I won't be installing my kit for 10 months or more so who knows, by then it's gonna be even cheaper and better! My 2023 model 3 with the new LFP batteries made me a believer in LiFEPo for sure. THanks !
I'm with ya, I was about to do the EcoFlow Ultra setup but will now wait too.
What a great system & battery setup. Like many others, the battery busbars really should have & need some form of a protective layer, it looks extremely dangerous when opened up & leaves a lot of potential for accidents with exposed busbars like this, if the front cover was hit with something heavy like a car in a garage it could have serious implications.
This is powerful enough to run a house - not just a cabin. Looks an amazing setup. And so easy to add another 14.3kWh! So about half the price of the Tesla Powerwall. The Tesla Powerwall doesn't even confirm it uses LFP batteries (8000 cycles) it possibly uses normal lighter smaller lithiums that can really only cycle 2000-3000 times. They don't confirm what lithium chemistry last I heard!
You should get into electric unicycles! I saw your scooter. EUCs are super fun and efficient and show the true beauty of new batteries and motors. I would recommend the Veteran Lynx for ya.
Looks like the best unit for me. As I would like to have a system like this. But being in the UK we only run 240v. So would need a system that is dedicated 240 only 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Could they have put an acrylic cover plate above the batteries to protect them? Use this instead of a Tesla Powerwall? I know it requires a few more things, but sounds like it would work.
Nobody has as much fun as Will on his videos😎
Literally the only TH-camr I would disable my add blocker for. Thank you again for how much you have helped me over the years with all my projects I never buy anything electrical unless you have talked about it. It looks like this may be one of my next purchases I'm about to start an electric boat project but I'm curious would this be ok to mount sideways?
I'll likely choose the EG4 Power Pro when building my system. I'm not planning to install outside but might still pay the extra couple hundred dollars for a little extra protection.
Thanks for all of your fantastic videos Will!
Fantastic! Nice work on this review!
LOVE THIS! Thanks for sharing, Will!
hey thanks Jason!!
@@WillProwse you should give us a run down of all your systems! How many kwh do you have now days!? Haha
@@Jasonoid goodness I just gave away like 100kwh last week haha I only have 130kwh right now haha
@@Jasonoid its actually more than I could ever use haha gave everything away to forum members and neighbors
im so excited about this battery, thank you for the video
I would really like to see how you would hook up 2 or more 6000XP units with Power Pro batteries and the chargeverter. It seems like those bus bars on the battery might be a great place to connect them but I am not seeing that in the manual. Signature Solar suggested a bus bar for combining all this equipment but I would still like to see you endorse that concept.
Love your work and EG4 equipment. Unfortunately only available in U.S. & surrounding areas. No international shipping.
I’m in Thailand and we just installed 2x LVTopsun 6Kw inverters, 3x LVTopsun 51.2v 200Ah batteries & 24x Longi 580w PV’s..
I’ve had it running almost a month. Powers a pool pump, bore pump, water pump tank to tank & to house, 6 air cons no issue.
Can’t run air cons once the PV’s stop generating electricity as the batteries won’t then last all night. We’re off grid but have company supplied electricity as the “backup source”. Also unable to adjust SOC and discharge from 25% switch to back up source & 40% back to batteries. Not sure what’s going on there as I’d like to go down to 10% switch over to company & 30% back to batteries. This would see me not needing to use company electricity at all.
For those interested in costs overseas. My system here cost $14k fully installed. The only downside here is suppliers and installers or companies drop you like a hot potato after installation and they’ve been paid. Never to be seen again.
Would love to see a review on LVTopsun brand if that’s available to you & possible to do.
Holy crap I almost pulled the trigger on the eg4 server rack. This is a way better buy I think.
Good timing Will. And as always, thank you for the work here. Much appreciated.
Looks good. I'm just shy on all the electronic interfaces. We're on ledge. Had a ground strike last year. Had to replace anything with circuit boards, even non electronics like magnet cabinet closures which blew apart. Even things not plugged in like my wifi hot spot.😢
That thing looks amazing!
I don't have an indoor room for this setup, but it is good to know if I can get a garage built
Love EG4, agree pull the panel cover in a rubber room
Do a revew on the eco worthy 12.8v 280ah batery I'm thinking of buying 4 of them for $2099
This is really cool! Thanks for sharing! Will definitely remove the ad blocker when I buy!
Also I plan on ordering all the equipment from your links.
Will, I live in Georgia. My house has very good Southern exposure and ZERO shade trees. My roof is needing replaced.
My electric bill runs $350 to $450 per month.
Would a system like this combined with solar to charge it be cost effective?
We would keep the house cooler in the summer if the cost was say $250 less per month.
Thank you for the excellent video!
The price range of these products is insane. These TH-camrs like Hobo Tech will sell themselves to company’s like Blue Yeti. I think Will hasn’t sold his soul like others.
Will is the goat. Been learning from him over a decade and dude hasnt changed one bit aside from buying a house! Dude hasnt aged LMAO
So if I did my math correctly.
This battery runs at 240 dollars per Kwh. 3431/14/3
The EG4 rack mount option (ones with displays) is 290 per Kwh. 8937/30.72.
So for a few thousand dollars more you can get 42.9 Kwh.
I haven't checked yet, but I imagine that if you already own a rack of EG4s, that these should be able to work in the same network.
Regardless, I'm glad that more options are opening up!
Awesome so easy and cheap technology is finally getting there price wise and usability thanku
great brand, but what will it connect to? panels, controller, etc. someone told be I would need a solar company to connect it, even off grid?
I'd be inclined to put some fiberglass board on the face of those cells. In case something impacted the front panel.
Can’t wait to see the Ruixu wall mount. Has a bit more capacity
I had 14.4k solar installed in 2020. My installer chose AP Systems QS1 microinverters. (Note, without telling me exactly what they were installing). I have 36 400-Watt panels on my roof. So far we have had to replace 2 inverters. Now, after the second inverter replacement, all modules are reporting 1/2 of the output they should have compared to the new replacement. My 14.4 KW system now has a total output of 7.5k max. I'm thinking of asking them to remove all the micro-inverters, wire in string and I'll buy an EG4 18kpv with this battery.
A 300lb sleek box seems gloriously easier to move than my current 2,000lb GNB FLA tubular batteries (x2) that are in their OEM steel boxes. I actually had an engine hoist fail moving them one time, leg just collapsed, even though it was rated for 2,000lb's.
gotta say these companies r coming along very fast. 5 yrs ago it was so limited in what u could find and prices were cray cray
Out of curiosity, how noisy would a full inverter and battery system be in a closet facing an exterior service entry wall adjoining a bedroom? Silent, buzz you sweetly to sleep, or buzz won't let you sleep?
Considerations for off grid use in northern Alaska... do you know specifically how the heaters function? Will they run whether or not there is current coming in or going out (@32f - 41f)? Normally our home is warmer than 45f, but we do occasionally leave long enough for the temp to get quite cold. Would it work to build an insulated cabinet around the system (closed only when left in the cold- no loads- fully charged)?
Love your content! Installer grade content for VARs with enough info for DIY to roll their own with well informed real world product reviews. Top notch!
Sorry to hear about the ad blocker problem. As a programmer an ad blocker should not affect affiliate links. If it does it's a decision made to not award a commission that falsely blames ad blockers.
Professional work 💯👍
just about spit my coffee out laughing so hard at your Gerbil comment-Thanks for laughs during your review!! Keep up the great work!
😁😁😂😂
Will- Can you please at some point do an educational video on the proper settings for the EG6 6000XP and PowerPro battery combo? Thanks a lot