Man this is amazing! Thought the used board I bought was defective because it didn't report any errors through beeps nor POST screen, there was no display available. But a new BIOS version made it work with the 5800X! Thanks man! MSI should recommend this as the default way to flash a new BIOS.
Their documentation on this process is supremely lacking and the fact that third party people have to make this known is kind of sad. Glad it helped you!
I had an issue where the red light blinked for a few seconds and usb drive was read during that brief time, but after that all lights went out and psu fan never came on. What worked in my case was pulling out and re-seating all psu-to-motherboard power cables. Meant to have psu off while doing this, but by mistake it was actually switched on and connected to power. In any case, procedure worked like a charm immediately after - just hit reset button, and away she went. Posting in case anyone else runs into this issue. Thank you for the video man! Cheers.
I cannot re-make this because I do not have an order for those two parts. My B550-A Pro loaner is being RMA'd and returned right now as well. However, the minimum bios you would require would be 7C56vA4 or use the one on the video, same thing. You will need a graphics card installed because the 5600X does not have integrated graphics. Other than that, it should work identically.
Hey I have a b550 pro trying to build ryzen 7 5800 x3d 3080ti 32g ram got everything built and it won't power on. Should I update bios all parts are new
Putting together my pc and I have everything already plugged in and in case, can I still do a flash bios with my cpu and everything in socket or is it gonna fry the system ?
Yes you can do this with things plugged in. Just do the same power sequence where you just plug it in and push the button with the USB in that slot and named accordingly.
On this same mb, followed your directions. Only got red light on bios flash button when pushed. As soon as I let it go the light went out. I don't seem to be getting any response of any kind. Really did not want to send this all back, but I think I got a bad one.
Make sure it's in the correct port and that it is a Fat32 formatted USB with the MSI.ROM file that you wish to flash. If that still does the same thing, yes I would RMA the motherboard. First rule about building a PC, don't assemble your PC in the case before you do a test boot and can get into BIOS. As it seems that the way you replied implies that you put the entire PC together before hand :)
Yes, but if the PC posts already you could just do it the normal way with a USB stick and going into the Bios. Otherwise, if it is just built and you realized you needed to update, yes you can do this and shouldn't have any issues updating the Bios.
Must have been a 300 series motherboard :) I think those were the cutoffs because the Bios memory size wasn't big enough to continue support. Same with some of the B450 boards.
Everyone says so, but it's actually well documented to get you up and running. The only thing is the flash bios button is annoying which is why I made the video. Even their documentation on their own website regarding it isn't that great. You have to hunt for the actual information amongst many bios things. Most of which refer to getting INTO the bios... which does not help :(
You need to do this if the Bios you get is older than 7C56vA7 yes. Seeing as the launch version is 7C56vA0 then I would assume worst case scenario and assume you need to be prepared to do this.
Thanks. I'm buying this motherboard with 5800x, but first I wanna try it out if it works without update. Can I do this with the computer assembled, so with the CPU is in it?
I switched from g to x for cpu so I don’t got any integrated graphics so I’ll have to install the gpu to check the bios update, so once I’m done I’ll take out the gpu where should I put it? In the box?
Also is it even possible to build then flash bios cuz I’ve seen ppl do it with asus boards. Sorry for the inconvenience I just am doing and seeing this all for the first time sorry.
Ok, so just tell me what parts are needed for the pc to turn on and go into bios, and then if I’m correct after the flash update I just take the drive out and check if the update is installed and if it is I can go ahead and unplug everything stick it in case and then build from there? Also does the cpu need cooling when checking the update.
Hey , i got the B550-A PRO but i need to upgraded the bios but should i upgraded with the same versions that you do or could i do it with the 2024 versions without issue, i have a ryzen 7 5700g please someone help me
@@Kardall thank you so much man, i am going to do it with Version 7C56vAH (last one )and i was so scary to damage my motherboard,or maybe that version doesn't work wity my ryzen 7 5700g you ara so nice thanks
This board seems to be best value and bang for buck b550 with the features you get and fantastic VRMs however I can't help but wonder what made MSI opt for this greyscale looking BIOS instead of red/black colorway some higher end boards have. I know b450 chipset boards by MSI had to sacrifice Click Bios UI and maybe some features in order to accomodate Ryzen 3000 CPUs at the time due to their BIOS chip limitation being 16MB however here that is not the case, all B550 boards come with 32MB chip so the only reason I can think of is because PRO Series is general purpose board class, no fancy RGB and gamer aesthetics like MAG,MPG and MEG series.
Ya I am not a huge fan of RGB. It is the Devil's Toy. I just did a build with AM5 on a B650 and it's updated bios was Red. So ya, not sure what happened. If I remember correctly, I had a red bios with my X470 board and at some point they switched to grey... it's odd. *shrug* The AM5 board was the MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi, and it's actually not a bad motherboard. Very easy to update like this one and smooth sailing.
I'm having a real head scratcher of a problem, I've let it run for a bout 20 minutes now and the flashing continues, plus the CPU Ez Debug light isn't on at all like how it is when I try to boot without updating the bios. Any solution you can think of?
If it is still flashing, let it go. You don't want to power it off just-in-case it's writing the ROM file. You don't want to brick your motherboard. But other than that, if it is doing it like now (been 10h since you posted) There's no real other solution than to turn it off. It should not take that long. You could contact MSI and ask them what may be the problem, or RMA it if it's within exchange with the retailer you bought it from because maybe it's just a bad motherboard?
@@Kardall im also having this problem, i let it run over night to be sure and when i came back the light was still blinking and no EZ dbug light, i did get mine from ebay so could it be a bad motherboard?
Good evening, first of all congratulations for helping so many people with this well-explained video, the thing is that I bought a B450 GAMING PLUS MAX and I put it to update the bios just as you did and nothing, when it comes to putting everything on and turning on it jumps the red light on the motherboard in the part of the cpu as if it were wrong, the thing is that the processor is well positioned, it works, it has no bent pins... I also have to say that when I updated the bios the white color does not jump inside the motherboard. First of all thank you very much.
Since it is a different motherboard, the way the lights react when it's complete or any errors may differ slightly. So when you do the bios update, does it do the blinking red light for the bios flash and eventually turn off after a few minutes? If it does, then it should have updated it successfully. If the Debug LEDs still show the CPU error, it may be a few things that you could check: 1. Make sure the Bios version you updated is supported with your CPU or that you updated it to the correct one. If you have an older CPU like 1st or 2nd Gen Ryzen, and you updated it to support a 5000 series potentially, sometimes they remove older models of CPU support to make room for the code. Meaning, it would have disabled say a 1600X or 2600G support on that particular bios. You would need to double check your particular CPU vs. the supported list in the CPU Compatibility. Usually there will be a Bios version between the supported for that CPU and whatever the 5000 support would be, that describes that it removes the 1000/2000 series support. 2. See if you have the CPU Cooler plugged into the CPU FAN header or appropriate header so that the board knows there is a cooler attached. Sometimes they will not boot if there is no draw on one of the 'CPU' headers (like the pump or cpu_fan). 3. Ensure you have removed any plastic protector on the CPU Cooler, as it may cause the system to thermal throttle and not POST properly. 4. Do a CMOS reset to see if some other setting in the Bios has made it so it won't work. 5. You could contact MSI to see if they can help you with your particular hardware configuration, as they will know any particular pitfalls with some hardware compatibility according to what your specific situation is.
The Flash Bios Button turns off on this motherboard, but the Debug LED light stays on while the fans keep spinning on the PSU so... I think that answers your question :) It can take up to 5 minutes so.
Make sure that if you do not have a "G" Series CPU (like 5600G) you have your graphics card installed and the monitor plugged into the graphics card. If you have no graphics card, you need a "G" series CPU and you plug the Monitor into the motherboard. Aside from that, it's possible that the update did not take and you may have to redo it. When it is complete, it should take at least 30 seconds, and then the Flash Bios light will go out. If the bios button is pressed and it blinks a couple times and goes out, it can't find the bios file on the stick. So go over the files on the USB and make sure you extracted the file directly to the USB and not just put the zip file on it, or renamed the zip file. There is a bios file inside the zip that you extract and then rename it to MSI.ROM.
For person who press the button and blink the red lightt for a few seconds and stop. Me I was trying to update the bios with a USB stick 3.0, the blue one! Doesn't worked! I tried with a 2.0 and it worked! Good luck!
Yes. And the VGA light would indicated that either 1) Your CPU does not have integrated graphics or 2) you don't have a graphics card installed yet or is not functioning for whatever reason.
I plug in the USB and hit the button. Machine starts, runs for a bit then shuts down, and powers back up. The red flashing stops when it restarts. I have to shut it off. I put in CPU, ram and cooler. Plug in monitor, turn on psu and get nothing. Note CPU debug light never goes off. Already swapped out CPU, for a compatible one. Was thinking BIOS version but have tried many and flushed the cmos via battery removal.
The machine should not start when you push the flash bios button. I would check your power connections to everything to make sure they're not semi-connected and causing some sort of freak-out or short-type of situation. All you should really need is the 24-pin and the 8-pin CPU Power connections, you can take the RAM out of the system if you want to as it is not needed, just to make sure the system doesn't try to POST. If you have a compatible CPU though, you should be able to get it to POST to bios and do the update within the bios. No need for the flashback bios button at that point.
Hi friend, I want to install Windows 11, do I need to update to the specific driver with support for Windows 11 or can I download the latest version normally? In the motherboard specifications it says that it only supports Windows 10 Pro 😭 and I paid 120 dollars for an original Windows 11, could you help me my brother?
Windows 11 has requirements for the motherboard that you have to enable in the Bios. As per Microsoft's Hardware Requirements ( learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/windows-11-requirements#hardware-requirements ): System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable. TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0. You will have to look through the Bios on where to enable those features or if there is a Bios manual (sometimes MSI has a separate manual for it), then it will tell you what category it is in. But normally it's in some sort of Chipset sub-menu or sometimes they hide it in the Boot menu. I don't have a board I can spin up to tell you where it is unfortunately :(
My Ryzen 5 5600x came with a warning saying the Mobo am4 requires a bios update for it to be compatible. I take it i can't just build the whole pc and i need to do it this way otherwise i wont get far 🤔
If you have a 400 series motherboard and even a lot of 500 series motherboards, yes you will have to do the bios update. You should look up your motherboard on the web and look at the support -> cpu compatibility chart and it will tell you what Bios version your CPU is supported as of. Then you download that, perform the update with the button should you have one. If you don't, you will need either a compatible CPU or a loaner kit from AMD, I did a video covering this as well: th-cam.com/video/rZXcuSY_-Tg/w-d-xo.html
I have a ryzen 5 5700g so I do have intergrated graphics. What parts are absolutely needed to just start and get it in bios? And I don’t need cooling it can just be on top of box while in bios settings?
to do the actual test after the flash, you need: RAM, CPU, Cooler, 24-pin power, 8-pin CPU power, and your HDMI/DisplayPort from your motherboard connected to your monitor in this situation. The 5700G has Integrated graphics, so you don't have to connect your GPU. You can totally build the machine before doing all this stuff. It's just not necessary and can save time with removal and re-installation if you have to RMA components. That's the only reason that people do it. To verify that the system will POST (Power On Self Test) and get into a Bios screen. A stock cooler does not need to be removed after you test it, in order to throw the motherboard into the case. It shouldn't block any motherboard mounting points so, you should be able to access the screws.
Make sure that you have a Fat32 formatted empty USB stick. And have renamed the file to MSI.ROM (for this motherboard). Also, keep in mind, this is to make it so that the board works with a 5000 series CPU and it does not support any CPU before 3000 series. So if you are trying to use a 1600 or 2600x etc., it won't work either way.
@@Kardall may be because I ordered a refurbished board and possibly some issues. I did format to fat32 and renamed the file to MSI.ROM, I do appreciate this video as it was very thorough, my cpu is a 5800x
Well I think my psu is doa. Light flashes a couple times and the fan never starts. The key to life is complaining. As soon as you do then everything works just to spite you
The OEM cooler comes with a Boxed CPU. So make sure whoever/wherever you are buying it from, it is a normal retail package and not a tray CPU which will simply be the CPU itself. Most online retailers like Amazon will be selling you a Boxed CPU. But double check with whatever system you are ordering from.
Yes. Just make sure you download at minimum Bios version 7C56vA9 which is when the 5700X support was added. Might as well just update it to 7C56vAF though which is the latest one as of this post.
Also with the pen what did you do? The mother board was built and the psu was on or not? And u press the power+ stick on the panel? Did u press it down, up, right, or what? And did you press both the sticks that are labeled as power- and power+
The pen is a screwdriver. You use it to touch the power+/- pins on the motherboard to 'short them' which is the same functionality as pushing the power button on a case. It is how you jump start the motherboard to turning on outside of a case install.
But as a first time builder I don’t want to build then take apart then build again but the system I’m going to buy requires bios flash so what should I do?
When you get the parts, you put the parts together on the motherboard box. Then do your flash update. When you put it in the case, the only thing you need to remove is the cables for the power and maybe your AIO but... you could probably manhandle it or if someone is there to hold the radiator while you mount the board in the case. You can leave the CPU installed, RAM, M.2 if you have one. If you are using a G series or doing this on a 7000/8000 series with iGPU then you can just leave out your graphics card, and POST the system with the motherboard HDMI instead. It should give you an output when it is successful. It can be done.
You should always do a POST test before installing it into the case. What would happen if the motherboard was faulty, and you had to remove it all, undoing all that work? :D It's a time saver. Plus, if it works outside the case, and doesn't inside, then that means something isn't connected properly or you broke something during the installation :D
Every time I try and boot it up and close the bios menu it flashes, and then sends me back to the bios. Do you have any advice for that please I’ve tired everything I can and it doesn’t help
If your PC is booting to bios, you can do an update using the base ROM file that you download, from inside the Bios screen. You don't have to use the Flash Bios button. If you keep going to Bios after turning the system on, that means that the system can't find the Boot drive (if you have even installed your OS yet). Since you can get video output, you should be good to install your OS now, you can always update the bios later using the windows utility or other methods that do not require the 'bios flashback button'. Which is really only necessary if your CPU does not have support on the current version of the Bios.
And there is one last question. I have an aio, sooo. Idk what to do. Do I just install it? Or can I leva the cpu with out it while I just check the bios
You can install the aio sure, it will just be a little more difficult putting it into the case, but it is doable. Just put a box or something that is roughly the same height as the case on the side so you can rest the AIO on it while you install the motherboard. Otherwise you'll need another set of hands to hold the AIO for you while you install the motherboard in the case.
I have a mobi fully hooked up to all components and in trying to flash bios, i didnt fornat the usb. My red flash led is staying on after flashing a few times.
It can literally take like 5 min + Also, as long as you have the MSI.ROM file for the motherboard in the root folder of the USB drive (lets say it is F:), it would be F:\MSI.ROM like was said in the video, then it should detect it as long as it's the correct bios file for that motherboard. You have to rename the file from the zip file you download from MSI. But eventually what should happen is the red light goes off and the white LED debug light will stay on.
You need to remove any thermal paste from the CPU if you are using the included pre-applied thermal paste on the AIO. Not doing so may cause air bubbles and therefore heat buildup on the CPU. Yes you will need to use the GPU after flashback to verify it took. You can put the GPU wherever you want, that's up to you. When cleaning the thermal paste, a cloth or something that doesn't leave fibers is what you're looking for. Swabs are usually good for a final thing as long as you don't catch it on any of the other components on the CPU that are exposed. It may tear fibers off the q-tip. But if you're careful it usually isn't an issue. Good luck. Pretty much everything that you need to do is in this video, however I did a live stream a while ago (between this video and any newer ones) where I chat with viewers and answered questions, but it's a complete build from start to finish with chapter markers if you have time. Check it out, it may help you especially when it comes to cable management. I kind of try to talk out my thoughts when doing things so you can try to get some sort of a thought process behind my decisions. th-cam.com/video/DtwheSQx-pw/w-d-xo.html I edited a 2 1/2 hours stream down to about 45min.
If you are able to get into the Bios, you do not need to flash it this way. You can just flash it with the regular method where you extract the zip file onto a drive and load up the manager.
That isn't even an option when you use the format tool in windows. That is generally setup when you install your OS onto your machine, not when you format a USB stick in the way we use it here. It's not a bootable drive, just storage.
@@KardallSorry if I misunderstood, English is not my native language. Yes, I know it isn't an option when you format the USB, but I have seen in some comments that it is important to have the USB in MBR (Master Boot Record) partition format to install BIOS with the flash button correctly. That's why I am asking if you have MBR or GPT in the USB, to know if it was true or not.
Using the Flashbios Button no. It will update and when the light goes off it should work. If you don't have your GPU yet, then you can still do the update with a power supply connected and nothing else even. As was shown in the video. The only reason there is a monitor used in the video is to show that it works afterwards.
Also I am using the XFX Speedster QICK319 RX 7700 XT so can I leave that out or do I have to hook this up too? And I believe once I build it on top of box I don’t need any cooling while I check? Btw you have been INSANELY helpful im going to sub ti you thanks alot.
If your CPU is not a "G series" assuming that it's a 5000 series CPU, then it won't have integrated graphics. So to get a video output after the Bios flash, you will need to at least connect the GPU to the motherboard and the power connectors for the GPU when you try to boot it up for the first time after the flash. It should go into Bios automatically or give you an 'unbootable media' type of message on the screen. But other than that, you should just need: 1. 24-Pin Power to the Motherboard 2. CPU 8-pin power for the flash 3. USB with the bios file renamed to MSI.ROM (not the zip file, the rom file is inside the Zip file so you need to extract it and rename it into the root folder of the Fat32 formatted USB drive) Then you plug power into the power supply, turn the switch on the back if it has one, and push the flash bios button on the motherboard as I did in the video. You do not need the CPU installed, the RAM or any drives connected to perform this other than the USB drive in the correct slot. Once the red light stops flashing, the Debug LED light will stay on, but the red light will stop flashing and turn off. Then you can turn off the power supply, or unplug it. Install your CPU and a cooler, RAM, connect your graphics card and it's required power cables. Connect a monitor to the GPU and then short the Power SW pins on the motherboard as indicated in the manual and on the motherboard (it's printed). I kind of show it in the video as well though it's tiny and hard to see. You should at least get a video signal at that point, to which you can proceed to power the system off and continue with your installation into the case as normal.
@@Kardall I have a ryzen 5 5700g so I do have intergrated graphics. What parts are absolutely needed to just start and get it in bios? And I don’t need cooling it can just be on top of box while in bios settings?
When I do it, The light flashes red then just stops blinking red so it doesn’t update I tried every way to update to update the bios but it never reads the files inside my usb what should I do?
If you have a "G" series CPU then the motherboard should have output after you update the bios to a supported version. If you have a normal CPU that does not have integrated graphics, you will need to then install your graphics card and connect it to your monitor (not using the motherboard).
Hi, i don't know if you will see this, but i have some problem with flash bios. I did everything the same as you, but when i plug pendrive led went red without blinking for like 5-10 sec and then started blinking for like also 5-10 sec and then ended. What does it mean?
Make sure your file is renamed to MSI.ROM It's possible it can't find the rom file. Make sure you have renamed it and maybe make sure your "Hide file extensions" is disabled so you can see them. Otherwise it may just be called "MSI.ROM.094" or something like that.
I have serious problems getting to my Bios. Everytime I try a key combo while restarting the screen will just be black/my screen loses the signal. Now I tried to do it like you did it, prepared the stick, put it into the bios slot, pushed the button but when I started my computer again, I didnt get to the bios screen but the normal windows screen with just my pin not working anymore. What did I do wrong? :/
Possibility that your OS has become corrupted. Potentially an update that failed when you powered down the system at some point during an update? You could try to do the "Reset This PC" and try to see if the OS installation is correct. Or change your sign-in option to password and see if your password works (might be your Microsoft password if you have activated a digital license).
@@Kardall Thanks for your respond! My computer is just one week old, so I dont know if it was an update but since i havent put that much stuff on it yet, I just might as well reset it completely. I got around the password, so that was no big deal :D You know, my main issue is that all of these ways to get to the bios by pressing certain keys when the pc was starting didnt work. My screen was just black whenever and however ive tried it. So i thought it might work with a stick but that also seems to not work, kinda desperate right now :P
I made the mistake of not renaming the file to MSI.ROM before initiating bios flash. Red light has been blinking for close to an hour. Is it safe for me to power off and rename the file before trying again, or should I just let it continue?
I have the same motherboard with cpu of Ryzen 7 5800x 3d. Will it not work if I don't do this step prior to bulding / connecting everything? I don't have another computer available to download the bios update and install the bios update to a flash drive. Help
Yes you have to have at least bios version 7C56vA9 to support that CPU. So I would suggest using a friend/library/school PC to download the bios files required to do the update while you wait for your parts to arrive.
Having an issue, used to latest version, plugged it in. Light blinks for 5 seconds and turns off. No display still and graphics card won't turn on. All parts are properly mounted
Did it already do an update where it flashed for like 3-5 minutes or more? Or has it only every blinked for 5 seconds and stopped? If it's the later, then it is having problems finding/reading the bios file. Make sure it's FAT32 formatted (preferably a smaller drive like 4gb or something) and the bios file for your motherboard is correctly named. In the case of this MSI board it was MSI.ROM and it should be in the root folder, not a sub-folder. And we're talking about the files inside the archive when you downloaded from the site. Because inside there is a rom file that you rename.
@Kardall I'm using the exact same motherboard, fat32 formated, named the file MSI.ROM it is a 16gb stick though since it's all I had. Nothing else is on it. The light blinied for about 3-5 seconds. Is there a specific version of the bipa update I should be using?
1. Did you extract the bios rom file to the root folder of the flash drive? or did you just put the zip file on the drive? 2. Did you rename the extracted rom file to MSI.ROM (case sensitive)?
Hey, yeah i extracted the file and renamed it MSI.ROM, also i tried it with 2 different usb-sticks. Also converted them to mbr. For the PC-Specs: ryzen 5600 rx6750xt MSI-B550-A-Pro Seasonic G12 550W 80+ gold certified so i´ve been trying at least 6hrs+ tried everything also putting the specs in my other pc, everything works but when i assemble everything in the MSI Motherboard and try to start it up it will say EZ DEBUG CPU light on, so i´ve assumed that the cpu or RAM dont work, but on a ASrock motherboard they work perfectly, so i´ve been trying to update the Bios of the Msi-Motherboard without any success, the light won´t even come on if i press the flas bios botton. Does that mean the Motherboard doesnt recognize the usb-stick or what? i would appriciate some help :)@@Kardall
Hey, the video is very nice and helpful but do we have to do the same thing as you did with the screwdriver and the pin to show the Post? If you are obligated, Why? Im very interested about that stuff
The screwdriver to short the pins is simply because the motherboard is not installed in a case with a 'power button'. The screwdriver does the exact same thing as pushing the power button on a PC case. It causes a short between the two pins on the motherboards 'Front Panel IO' area, labeled "Power SW" usually. You don't have to do this, but it's always good practice to ensure the system POSTs outside of the case before installing, that way if you need to RMA any faulty components beyond the RAM like lets say there's a problem with the motherboard itself, you don't have to spend the time to remove ALL of the components from the case. You just simply unplug and put it back in the box etc.. Saves time. Plus, if the system POSTs outside of the case, and then does not when you put it in, you know something happened during the installation process that caused the issue.
Another question if I already have a SSD with Windows 10 installed on it and have stuff on it will it work if I have a new motherboard and cpu?@@Kardall
Possibly a problem reading the file. Make sure you rename the file you downloaded to MSI.ROM and that it's a Fat32 (preferably small like 2gb) USB drive?
Shit, i am gonna do this and just hope the bios is flashed i dont wanna build in my gpu before the mboard is in the case. also would you recomend putting cpu cooler and ram on the motherboard before putting it into the case
Normally you put the essentials on the board to get to a POST screen. Just put it on the motherboard box, connect the CPU Power, 24-pin Motherboard Power, install your CPU and cooler (even temporarily just use the stock one to make sure it posts if you got an AIO or other cooler for the final build) and your graphics card if you don't have integrated graphics. That way you know it works and you get a video output. Doing this will save you the many minutes of removing the board if necessary, remounting your cooler or anything of that sort. Also, before you finish cable management, make sure the system posts in case you have to remove or unplug/replace cables etc.. There is no harm as long as you don't move the board rapidly and cause stress on the GPU socket it is installed on, and pretty much everyone does this. Those who don't risk the waste of time it takes to remove and swap out components after RMA'ing DOA components (like your motherboard). Super frustrating to have the entire system installed, and then the motherboard won't post because it has a bad CMOS chip, or someone else did a bad flash and bricked it, then returned it and it got re-entered into circulation and you ended up with it. It happens. Do things outside of the case for your own sanity.
2 hours is a bit long ;o While it's blinking it's usually writing something but... I don't know if turning the system off will brick it or not. Depends what it's doing. If it is writing and you turn off the system it will brick the board and you will have to replace it. You could try contacting MSI and ask them what they suggest doing, and if they say to shut it off and it bricks it, then you can get a replacement because their tech agents told you to do it XD lol
Yes you can. And to try to answer the other question. If the light is solid and lot blinking at all, then it has encountered some error and halted the update process. Go through the checklist of requirements: Fat32 Formatted Drive, Correct Bios for your motherboard downloaded, extracted the rom file to the USB, renamed the file to MSI.ROM Try a different drive if it still does it, but that's all you should have to do.
@@Bjelabosna Make sure that you have renamed the file correctly. If you have file extensions hidden, you may have renamed it MSI.ROM.C41 or whatever the original extension actually is. If it isn't called MSI.ROM then it will not be able to find it, which sounds like what it's doing. But there isn't a set LED patterns list anywhere.
Hey man, sorry if this question has already been answered. But I’m not getting the post screen. Connected HDMI screen, but screen saying no signal when the mobo boots. Any suggestions? Edit: the bios process was fine. Light flashed then stopped etc. just cannot post.
When you press the Flash Button, it should immediately start blinking which tells you that it is reading the USB and doing things. If it stays on, it's some sort of error. If it cannot see the MSI.ROM file on the USB drive, make sure it is renamed correctly (show file extensions if you have it disabled so it's not like MSI.ROM.a96 or whatever the original file was). And go through your checklist of FAT32 formatted, all files in the base drive not inside any folders on the USB drive, etc..
Bad flashes do occur. Could be a problem with the board itself, or maybe the wrong bios version for the time. There are some boards that have a sequence of updates you have to do because they change the format of the bios file itself throughout the course of the lifespan of the motherboards update history. B550 is still fairly new and I haven't seen many of them do this, mostly it is to do with AMD boards going from 1st Gen Ryzen through to the 5th Gen that have this issue more commonly. Good luck, hope you get it sorted :)
You can use this process to update the Bios period. Doesn't matter what CPU you have as long as it 'works in the board', this process lets you update the Bios without a CPU. So as long as you update it to a version that the CPU Compatibility lists as the minimum Bios that supports that particular CPU model, then you are good.
Yes you can. Use the same process regarding power and such, and the system will work like normal. If you are trying to do an upgrade and you have video already though, you don't need to use this. You can do it the normal way by just using the flash utility in the bios itself. As long as you can get to the bios.
hey i’m running out of trouble shooting ideas. i’ve tried em all but why does mine stop blinking red after the white light comes on then blinks again for like 5 seconds and never blinks red again. i’ve done everything thing the way you did i even disk part cleaned the usb like others have recommended. i’ve still can’t find out why it won’t update the bios. thanks
Are you sure you're using the correct port? There is a specific one you use for the USB. On the rear IO shield it outlines it I believe in a border or labeled depending on the model. But it's usually the one next to the button if it's side by side. Another thing, make sure you have the exact motherboard bios. For example, a B450 Gaming Plus Max is not the same as a B450M Gaming Plus Max, and a B450 Gaming Plus is not the same as a B450 Gaming Plus Max. Make sure it's the exact model.
Hi, i have done all things in the usb but when i turn on the flash button the red light flashes for 5 seconds and then the pc turn off without any white light on the motherboard
Hello and thank you for the video. On the official page, the new BIOS driver is version 7C56vAC1 (Beta version), which is still in beta. Should I use this version or the previous version that you are using in the video? What do you recommend I do?
Use the non beta one and see if it works. If you still have issues the beta one may fix a problem, however, it isn't 'stable' or it would be in release status so... risky.
Hey man i just finished a build and the cpu light was on so I checked it and stuff and no issue and I found your video and tried doing the bios everything was going along well like in your tutorial but I’m not posting after the red light is done blinking and still stuck on white cpu light
So the Bios LED flashed and after like 5 minutes or so it turned off? Sometimes the CPU light won't shut off on some models, but when the red light for the Flash Bios LED goes off, you should be able to power down the system and install your cooler and such so the system has a 'load' on the CPU_FAN header. Sometimes they won't POST as a self-preservation thing, so you don't overheat the CPU. Not sure how far you have gotten with the build, but you can assemble everything outside of the case on the motherboard box like I did in the video. Hard to say what might be wrong.
@@Kardall sorry for not responding I didn’t download the right version of bios and there was also a ram issue where the ram I was using was not compatible with the motherboard my computer has now posted thanks for the help you a 🐐
Hey great video - for some reason no matter what I do I cannot update the bios on this mother board. I am trying it through mflash and for some reason the new bios version is never recognized. Any thoughts or suggestions?
When you do this through the bios, don't rename the file. This is only for using the Flash Bios Buttons on motherboards, where you cannot get into the bios.
Man this is amazing! Thought the used board I bought was defective because it didn't report any errors through beeps nor POST screen, there was no display available. But a new BIOS version made it work with the 5800X! Thanks man! MSI should recommend this as the default way to flash a new BIOS.
Their documentation on this process is supremely lacking and the fact that third party people have to make this known is kind of sad. Glad it helped you!
Thank you very much love you
Thank you so much man! I just built my first pc and was crestfallen when it didnt post.
I had an issue where the red light blinked for a few seconds and usb drive was read during that brief time, but after that all lights went out and psu fan never came on.
What worked in my case was pulling out and re-seating all psu-to-motherboard power cables. Meant to have psu off while doing this, but by mistake it was actually switched on and connected to power. In any case, procedure worked like a charm immediately after - just hit reset button, and away she went.
Posting in case anyone else runs into this issue. Thank you for the video man! Cheers.
my light is still on but the fan isnt spinning and the other light never turned on once been sitting in it for about 20 minutes
Same here
Same. What have you done Next?
Awesome man! Thanks!
Very easy and sraight to the point, thanks.
Hey I'm building a pc very soon , would you mind doing this video but with the ryzen 5 5600x If possible BTW your video are really helpful
I cannot re-make this because I do not have an order for those two parts. My B550-A Pro loaner is being RMA'd and returned right now as well.
However, the minimum bios you would require would be 7C56vA4 or use the one on the video, same thing. You will need a graphics card installed because the 5600X does not have integrated graphics.
Other than that, it should work identically.
@@Kardallis that version compatible with windows11? I see that 7c56vA8 is the windows 11 update. But would it still support a 5000 series Ryzen?
i have the same motherboard and cpu should i do the same verison you did?
Hey I have a b550 pro trying to build ryzen 7 5800 x3d 3080ti 32g ram got everything built and it won't power on. Should I update bios all parts are new
Yes
Thank you very much sir, it helped me a lot.
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Yup, it's pretty much the same for all MSI flash bios button things but... I haven't tried any of the new motherboards with it yet :) *AM5 so...
Very helpful thank you
Putting together my pc and I have everything already plugged in and in case, can I still do a flash bios with my cpu and everything in socket or is it gonna fry the system ?
Yes you can do this with things plugged in. Just do the same power sequence where you just plug it in and push the button with the USB in that slot and named accordingly.
thank you very much
had to use some old 1gb flash drive because the motherboard wasnt recognizing any of the newer ones i initially tried using
On this same mb, followed your directions. Only got red light on bios flash button when pushed. As soon as I let it go the light went out. I don't seem to be getting any response of any kind. Really did not want to send this all back, but I think I got a bad one.
Make sure it's in the correct port and that it is a Fat32 formatted USB with the MSI.ROM file that you wish to flash.
If that still does the same thing, yes I would RMA the motherboard.
First rule about building a PC, don't assemble your PC in the case before you do a test boot and can get into BIOS. As it seems that the way you replied implies that you put the entire PC together before hand :)
Would the process be the same even after the PC is completely built out? So PC is off (PSU is on) and insert the USB and push the flash button?
Yes, but if the PC posts already you could just do it the normal way with a USB stick and going into the Bios.
Otherwise, if it is just built and you realized you needed to update, yes you can do this and shouldn't have any issues updating the Bios.
Thank you very much! This was very helpful!
Not a problem :)
Thank you so much! I was super worried about this.
Not a problem. It's nice to have a walk through video to explain things rather than just simply reading from a document :)
Thanks sm. I ordered the 5900x and found out this mobo i ordered on sale wasn't compatible on pc partpicker.
Must have been a 300 series motherboard :) I think those were the cutoffs because the Bios memory size wasn't big enough to continue support. Same with some of the B450 boards.
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Man the documentation that came with this motherboard is just pathetic. At least the board is well labeled for noobs like me
Everyone says so, but it's actually well documented to get you up and running. The only thing is the flash bios button is annoying which is why I made the video. Even their documentation on their own website regarding it isn't that great. You have to hunt for the actual information amongst many bios things. Most of which refer to getting INTO the bios... which does not help :(
It's mandatory to do this? i'm about to buy this motherboard with a 5600x, but i don't know if i need to do this or just if i want it
You need to do this if the Bios you get is older than 7C56vA7 yes.
Seeing as the launch version is 7C56vA0 then I would assume worst case scenario and assume you need to be prepared to do this.
Thank you. you just save my life
Glad this helped you out! It's frustrating trying to find this information!
Thanks.
I'm buying this motherboard with 5800x, but first I wanna try it out if it works without update. Can I do this with the computer assembled, so with the CPU is in it?
Yes you can. Chances are that it won't have an updated bios but, you can try and do the update afterwards.
@@Kardall Cool, okay. Thanks for the reply!
I switched from g to x for cpu so I don’t got any integrated graphics so I’ll have to install the gpu to check the bios update, so once I’m done I’ll take out the gpu where should I put it? In the box?
Also is it even possible to build then flash bios cuz I’ve seen ppl do it with asus boards. Sorry for the inconvenience I just am doing and seeing this all for the first time sorry.
Ok, so just tell me what parts are needed for the pc to turn on and go into bios, and then if I’m correct after the flash update I just take the drive out and check if the update is installed and if it is I can go ahead and unplug everything stick it in case and then build from there? Also does the cpu need cooling when checking the update.
You saved me...thank you very much
Alright thanks isopropyl and a paper towel is fine right? Dude thanks so much you’re helped ALOT
Hey , i got the B550-A PRO but i need to upgraded the bios but should i upgraded with the same versions that you do or could i do it with the 2024 versions without issue, i have a ryzen 7 5700g please someone help me
You can upgrade to whatever the newest version is with the flash bios button.
@@Kardall thank you so much man, i am going to do it with Version 7C56vAH (last one )and i was so scary to damage my motherboard,or maybe that version doesn't work wity my ryzen 7 5700g you ara so nice thanks
How long dose it take ?
This board seems to be best value and bang for buck b550 with the features you get and fantastic VRMs however I can't help but wonder what made MSI opt for this greyscale looking BIOS instead of red/black colorway some higher end boards have.
I know b450 chipset boards by MSI had to sacrifice Click Bios UI and maybe some features in order to accomodate Ryzen 3000 CPUs at the time due to their BIOS chip limitation being 16MB however here that is not the case, all B550 boards come with 32MB chip so the only reason I can think of is because PRO Series is general purpose board class, no fancy RGB and gamer aesthetics like MAG,MPG and MEG series.
Ya I am not a huge fan of RGB. It is the Devil's Toy.
I just did a build with AM5 on a B650 and it's updated bios was Red. So ya, not sure what happened. If I remember correctly, I had a red bios with my X470 board and at some point they switched to grey... it's odd. *shrug* The AM5 board was the MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi, and it's actually not a bad motherboard. Very easy to update like this one and smooth sailing.
bless you man,thanks alot.
thanks
Great video! Super informative and helpful!!
I'm having a real head scratcher of a problem, I've let it run for a bout 20 minutes now and the flashing continues, plus the CPU Ez Debug light isn't on at all like how it is when I try to boot without updating the bios. Any solution you can think of?
If it is still flashing, let it go. You don't want to power it off just-in-case it's writing the ROM file. You don't want to brick your motherboard. But other than that, if it is doing it like now (been 10h since you posted) There's no real other solution than to turn it off. It should not take that long. You could contact MSI and ask them what may be the problem, or RMA it if it's within exchange with the retailer you bought it from because maybe it's just a bad motherboard?
Any update? I’m having the same problem rn.
@@Kardall im also having this problem, i let it run over night to be sure and when i came back the light was still blinking and no EZ dbug light, i did get mine from ebay so could it be a bad motherboard?
The reason is the file isn’t in the root directory so it cant find the file and it keeps looking
i have a question man im going to buy the same motherboard so nothing changed right in 2024 i can di bios flash back with the same way ????
Everything is the same, just maybe the bios file will be different than what I downloaded.
@@Kardall i still have to rename the file MSI.ROM right ?
Good evening, first of all congratulations for helping so many people with this well-explained video, the thing is that I bought a B450 GAMING PLUS MAX and I put it to update the bios just as you did and nothing, when it comes to putting everything on and turning on it jumps the red light on the motherboard in the part of the cpu as if it were wrong, the thing is that the processor is well positioned, it works, it has no bent pins... I also have to say that when I updated the bios the white color does not jump inside the motherboard. First of all thank you very much.
Since it is a different motherboard, the way the lights react when it's complete or any errors may differ slightly. So when you do the bios update, does it do the blinking red light for the bios flash and eventually turn off after a few minutes? If it does, then it should have updated it successfully.
If the Debug LEDs still show the CPU error, it may be a few things that you could check:
1. Make sure the Bios version you updated is supported with your CPU or that you updated it to the correct one. If you have an older CPU like 1st or 2nd Gen Ryzen, and you updated it to support a 5000 series potentially, sometimes they remove older models of CPU support to make room for the code. Meaning, it would have disabled say a 1600X or 2600G support on that particular bios. You would need to double check your particular CPU vs. the supported list in the CPU Compatibility. Usually there will be a Bios version between the supported for that CPU and whatever the 5000 support would be, that describes that it removes the 1000/2000 series support.
2. See if you have the CPU Cooler plugged into the CPU FAN header or appropriate header so that the board knows there is a cooler attached. Sometimes they will not boot if there is no draw on one of the 'CPU' headers (like the pump or cpu_fan).
3. Ensure you have removed any plastic protector on the CPU Cooler, as it may cause the system to thermal throttle and not POST properly.
4. Do a CMOS reset to see if some other setting in the Bios has made it so it won't work.
5. You could contact MSI to see if they can help you with your particular hardware configuration, as they will know any particular pitfalls with some hardware compatibility according to what your specific situation is.
This helped me recover after a failed update attempt with the MSI center software.
I didn't remember this button is there.
awesome!
Love goes out. Thank you very much my man!
Will the red light turn off after it’s done blinking?
The Flash Bios Button turns off on this motherboard, but the Debug LED light stays on while the fans keep spinning on the PSU so... I think that answers your question :) It can take up to 5 minutes so.
I need help bc when i finished ubpdating the bios and turning it on nothing was showing up just black screen
Make sure that if you do not have a "G" Series CPU (like 5600G) you have your graphics card installed and the monitor plugged into the graphics card.
If you have no graphics card, you need a "G" series CPU and you plug the Monitor into the motherboard.
Aside from that, it's possible that the update did not take and you may have to redo it. When it is complete, it should take at least 30 seconds, and then the Flash Bios light will go out.
If the bios button is pressed and it blinks a couple times and goes out, it can't find the bios file on the stick. So go over the files on the USB and make sure you extracted the file directly to the USB and not just put the zip file on it, or renamed the zip file. There is a bios file inside the zip that you extract and then rename it to MSI.ROM.
I mean the ubpdate is finished but theres always black screen. i have ryzen 5 7000x and dedicated card still dont know why this doesnt work @@Kardall
For person who press the button and blink the red lightt for a few seconds and stop. Me I was trying to update the bios with a USB stick 3.0, the blue one! Doesn't worked! I tried with a 2.0 and it worked! Good luck!
My PC stopped flashing after like 6 minutes, and then restarted? normal?
possibly? Not sure, it should just stop at some point and not come on again.
Like clean off the thermal or just clean it so it’s clean.
Can this be used if the light was the VGA light?
Yes. And the VGA light would indicated that either 1) Your CPU does not have integrated graphics or 2) you don't have a graphics card installed yet or is not functioning for whatever reason.
I plug in the USB and hit the button. Machine starts, runs for a bit then shuts down, and powers back up. The red flashing stops when it restarts. I have to shut it off. I put in CPU, ram and cooler. Plug in monitor, turn on psu and get nothing. Note CPU debug light never goes off. Already swapped out CPU, for a compatible one. Was thinking BIOS version but have tried many and flushed the cmos via battery removal.
The machine should not start when you push the flash bios button. I would check your power connections to everything to make sure they're not semi-connected and causing some sort of freak-out or short-type of situation.
All you should really need is the 24-pin and the 8-pin CPU Power connections, you can take the RAM out of the system if you want to as it is not needed, just to make sure the system doesn't try to POST.
If you have a compatible CPU though, you should be able to get it to POST to bios and do the update within the bios. No need for the flashback bios button at that point.
How do you turn it off? Touch the pin again?
just turn off the power supply. If it doesn't have a switch, you can hold the pins for the power switch down for a few seconds until it shuts off.
thank you was needing this
glad it helped you out!
And could I just use the stock cooler until I’m done and then take it off and put mobo into case
Yup. Just make sure you have IPA (rubbing alcohol) and some swab or q-tips/cotton balls to clean off the CPU before you apply the AIO.
Also I have isopropyl and lapsed towels so I’m good
Hi friend, I want to install Windows 11, do I need to update to the specific driver with support for Windows 11 or can I download the latest version normally? In the motherboard specifications it says that it only supports Windows 10 Pro 😭 and I paid 120 dollars for an original Windows 11, could you help me my brother?
Windows 11 has requirements for the motherboard that you have to enable in the Bios.
As per Microsoft's Hardware Requirements ( learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/windows-11-requirements#hardware-requirements ):
System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0.
You will have to look through the Bios on where to enable those features or if there is a Bios manual (sometimes MSI has a separate manual for it), then it will tell you what category it is in. But normally it's in some sort of Chipset sub-menu or sometimes they hide it in the Boot menu. I don't have a board I can spin up to tell you where it is unfortunately :(
My Ryzen 5 5600x came with a warning saying the Mobo am4 requires a bios update for it to be compatible. I take it i can't just build the whole pc and i need to do it this way otherwise i wont get far 🤔
If you have a 400 series motherboard and even a lot of 500 series motherboards, yes you will have to do the bios update. You should look up your motherboard on the web and look at the support -> cpu compatibility chart and it will tell you what Bios version your CPU is supported as of. Then you download that, perform the update with the button should you have one.
If you don't, you will need either a compatible CPU or a loaner kit from AMD, I did a video covering this as well: th-cam.com/video/rZXcuSY_-Tg/w-d-xo.html
I have a ryzen 5 5700g so I do have intergrated graphics. What parts are absolutely needed to just start and get it in bios? And I don’t need cooling it can just be on top of box while in bios settings?
to do the actual test after the flash, you need:
RAM, CPU, Cooler, 24-pin power, 8-pin CPU power, and your HDMI/DisplayPort from your motherboard connected to your monitor in this situation. The 5700G has Integrated graphics, so you don't have to connect your GPU.
You can totally build the machine before doing all this stuff. It's just not necessary and can save time with removal and re-installation if you have to RMA components. That's the only reason that people do it. To verify that the system will POST (Power On Self Test) and get into a Bios screen.
A stock cooler does not need to be removed after you test it, in order to throw the motherboard into the case. It shouldn't block any motherboard mounting points so, you should be able to access the screws.
I follow the steps to the letter but after around 6 seconds of blinking it shows a light on cpu then a solid red light
Make sure that you have a Fat32 formatted empty USB stick. And have renamed the file to MSI.ROM (for this motherboard).
Also, keep in mind, this is to make it so that the board works with a 5000 series CPU and it does not support any CPU before 3000 series. So if you are trying to use a 1600 or 2600x etc., it won't work either way.
@@Kardall may be because I ordered a refurbished board and possibly some issues. I did format to fat32 and renamed the file to MSI.ROM, I do appreciate this video as it was very thorough, my cpu is a 5800x
@@Jake-rq7gvi know this is late, but did you fix the issue? People told me to convert USB in command from GPT to MBR then flash
Well I think my psu is doa. Light flashes a couple times and the fan never starts.
The key to life is complaining. As soon as you do then everything works just to spite you
Somehow bricked my USB drive. Wild
Do you know if there is a stock cooler that comes with the ryzen 7 5700g? Could I just use that and then take it off when I’m done checking
The OEM cooler comes with a Boxed CPU. So make sure whoever/wherever you are buying it from, it is a normal retail package and not a tray CPU which will simply be the CPU itself.
Most online retailers like Amazon will be selling you a Boxed CPU. But double check with whatever system you are ordering from.
So if I do this, the board will work with a Ryzen 7 5700x?
Yes. Just make sure you download at minimum Bios version 7C56vA9 which is when the 5700X support was added. Might as well just update it to 7C56vAF though which is the latest one as of this post.
@@Kardall Okay, thank you very much 😀
Also with the pen what did you do? The mother board was built and the psu was on or not? And u press the power+ stick on the panel? Did u press it down, up, right, or what? And did you press both the sticks that are labeled as power- and power+
The pen is a screwdriver. You use it to touch the power+/- pins on the motherboard to 'short them' which is the same functionality as pushing the power button on a case. It is how you jump start the motherboard to turning on outside of a case install.
Can i do update with alasembled pc?
Yes. Just follow the same steps. If your CPU is already installed it'll still work.
I flashed the latest bios to my motherboard. It will boot up, but not with the CPU installed. I have a ryzen 5600. Not sure where to go from here.
Well a 5600 does not have integrated graphics, you would need a 5600G if you do not have a dedicated graphics card.
But as a first time builder I don’t want to build then take apart then build again but the system I’m going to buy requires bios flash so what should I do?
When you get the parts, you put the parts together on the motherboard box. Then do your flash update.
When you put it in the case, the only thing you need to remove is the cables for the power and maybe your AIO but... you could probably manhandle it or if someone is there to hold the radiator while you mount the board in the case. You can leave the CPU installed, RAM, M.2 if you have one. If you are using a G series or doing this on a 7000/8000 series with iGPU then you can just leave out your graphics card, and POST the system with the motherboard HDMI instead. It should give you an output when it is successful.
It can be done.
Thank you very much
You're very welcome.
You didn’t even build it before turning on?
You should always do a POST test before installing it into the case. What would happen if the motherboard was faulty, and you had to remove it all, undoing all that work? :D It's a time saver.
Plus, if it works outside the case, and doesn't inside, then that means something isn't connected properly or you broke something during the installation :D
Every time I try and boot it up and close the bios menu it flashes, and then sends me back to the bios. Do you have any advice for that please I’ve tired everything I can and it doesn’t help
If your PC is booting to bios, you can do an update using the base ROM file that you download, from inside the Bios screen. You don't have to use the Flash Bios button. If you keep going to Bios after turning the system on, that means that the system can't find the Boot drive (if you have even installed your OS yet).
Since you can get video output, you should be good to install your OS now, you can always update the bios later using the windows utility or other methods that do not require the 'bios flashback button'. Which is really only necessary if your CPU does not have support on the current version of the Bios.
And there is one last question. I have an aio, sooo. Idk what to do. Do I just install it? Or can I leva the cpu with out it while I just check the bios
You can install the aio sure, it will just be a little more difficult putting it into the case, but it is doable. Just put a box or something that is roughly the same height as the case on the side so you can rest the AIO on it while you install the motherboard. Otherwise you'll need another set of hands to hold the AIO for you while you install the motherboard in the case.
I have a mobi fully hooked up to all components and in trying to flash bios, i didnt fornat the usb. My red flash led is staying on after flashing a few times.
It can literally take like 5 min +
Also, as long as you have the MSI.ROM file for the motherboard in the root folder of the USB drive (lets say it is F:), it would be F:\MSI.ROM like was said in the video, then it should detect it as long as it's the correct bios file for that motherboard. You have to rename the file from the zip file you download from MSI.
But eventually what should happen is the red light goes off and the white LED debug light will stay on.
Also is isopropyl and a paper towel fine
You need to remove any thermal paste from the CPU if you are using the included pre-applied thermal paste on the AIO. Not doing so may cause air bubbles and therefore heat buildup on the CPU.
Yes you will need to use the GPU after flashback to verify it took. You can put the GPU wherever you want, that's up to you.
When cleaning the thermal paste, a cloth or something that doesn't leave fibers is what you're looking for. Swabs are usually good for a final thing as long as you don't catch it on any of the other components on the CPU that are exposed. It may tear fibers off the q-tip. But if you're careful it usually isn't an issue.
Good luck. Pretty much everything that you need to do is in this video, however I did a live stream a while ago (between this video and any newer ones) where I chat with viewers and answered questions, but it's a complete build from start to finish with chapter markers if you have time. Check it out, it may help you especially when it comes to cable management. I kind of try to talk out my thoughts when doing things so you can try to get some sort of a thought process behind my decisions. th-cam.com/video/DtwheSQx-pw/w-d-xo.html I edited a 2 1/2 hours stream down to about 45min.
i go to bios and do m flash..nothing happen only black screen not entering m flash mode
If you are able to get into the Bios, you do not need to flash it this way. You can just flash it with the regular method where you extract the zip file onto a drive and load up the manager.
@@Kardall i plug the pen drive with extracted bios from zip file...exactly load the mflash but nothing hapen only black screen
@@Kardall succesfully updated bios as your video ..thanks
Thanks I need this tutorial
:D That's why TH-cam is here ;D glad I could help.
the powre suppy name pls
The one I used was an EVGA 650 BQ
What table partition did you use in the usb? Mbr or gpt?
That isn't even an option when you use the format tool in windows. That is generally setup when you install your OS onto your machine, not when you format a USB stick in the way we use it here. It's not a bootable drive, just storage.
@@KardallSorry if I misunderstood, English is not my native language. Yes, I know it isn't an option when you format the USB, but I have seen in some comments that it is important to have the USB in MBR (Master Boot Record) partition format to install BIOS with the flash button correctly. That's why I am asking if you have MBR or GPT in the USB, to know if it was true or not.
Hello ive a question
Do I need a GPU or integrated graphics to upgrade the bios?
Using the Flashbios Button no. It will update and when the light goes off it should work. If you don't have your GPU yet, then you can still do the update with a power supply connected and nothing else even. As was shown in the video. The only reason there is a monitor used in the video is to show that it works afterwards.
Also I am using the XFX Speedster QICK319 RX 7700 XT so can I leave that out or do I have to hook this up too? And I believe once I build it on top of box I don’t need any cooling while I check? Btw you have been INSANELY helpful im going to sub ti you thanks alot.
If your CPU is not a "G series" assuming that it's a 5000 series CPU, then it won't have integrated graphics. So to get a video output after the Bios flash, you will need to at least connect the GPU to the motherboard and the power connectors for the GPU when you try to boot it up for the first time after the flash.
It should go into Bios automatically or give you an 'unbootable media' type of message on the screen. But other than that, you should just need:
1. 24-Pin Power to the Motherboard
2. CPU 8-pin power for the flash
3. USB with the bios file renamed to MSI.ROM (not the zip file, the rom file is inside the Zip file so you need to extract it and rename it into the root folder of the Fat32 formatted USB drive)
Then you plug power into the power supply, turn the switch on the back if it has one, and push the flash bios button on the motherboard as I did in the video. You do not need the CPU installed, the RAM or any drives connected to perform this other than the USB drive in the correct slot.
Once the red light stops flashing, the Debug LED light will stay on, but the red light will stop flashing and turn off.
Then you can turn off the power supply, or unplug it. Install your CPU and a cooler, RAM, connect your graphics card and it's required power cables. Connect a monitor to the GPU and then short the Power SW pins on the motherboard as indicated in the manual and on the motherboard (it's printed). I kind of show it in the video as well though it's tiny and hard to see.
You should at least get a video signal at that point, to which you can proceed to power the system off and continue with your installation into the case as normal.
@@Kardall I have a ryzen 5 5700g so I do have intergrated graphics. What parts are absolutely needed to just start and get it in bios? And I don’t need cooling it can just be on top of box while in bios settings?
When I do it, The light flashes red then just stops blinking red so it doesn’t update I tried every way to update to update the bios but it never reads the files inside my usb what should I do?
did you extract the actual file to the base USB folder and rename it to MSI.ROM
ı did everything u say sir but after the red light stops system res itself and no display pls ı need ur help
If you have a "G" series CPU then the motherboard should have output after you update the bios to a supported version. If you have a normal CPU that does not have integrated graphics, you will need to then install your graphics card and connect it to your monitor (not using the motherboard).
Hi, i don't know if you will see this, but i have some problem with flash bios. I did everything the same as you, but when i plug pendrive led went red without blinking for like 5-10 sec and then started blinking for like also 5-10 sec and then ended. What does it mean?
Make sure your file is renamed to MSI.ROM
It's possible it can't find the rom file. Make sure you have renamed it and maybe make sure your "Hide file extensions" is disabled so you can see them. Otherwise it may just be called "MSI.ROM.094" or something like that.
I have serious problems getting to my Bios. Everytime I try a key combo while restarting the screen will just be black/my screen loses the signal. Now I tried to do it like you did it, prepared the stick, put it into the bios slot, pushed the button but when I started my computer again, I didnt get to the bios screen but the normal windows screen with just my pin not working anymore. What did I do wrong? :/
Possibility that your OS has become corrupted. Potentially an update that failed when you powered down the system at some point during an update?
You could try to do the "Reset This PC" and try to see if the OS installation is correct.
Or change your sign-in option to password and see if your password works (might be your Microsoft password if you have activated a digital license).
@@Kardall Thanks for your respond! My computer is just one week old, so I dont know if it was an update but since i havent put that much stuff on it yet, I just might as well reset it completely.
I got around the password, so that was no big deal :D
You know, my main issue is that all of these ways to get to the bios by pressing certain keys when the pc was starting didnt work. My screen was just black whenever and however ive tried it. So i thought it might work with a stick but that also seems to not work, kinda desperate right now :P
I made the mistake of not renaming the file to MSI.ROM before initiating bios flash. Red light has been blinking for close to an hour. Is it safe for me to power off and rename the file before trying again, or should I just let it continue?
ahh, yes you should be okay as long as there isn't an existing MSI.ROM that it is trying to load. Should be safe.
I have the same motherboard with cpu of Ryzen 7 5800x 3d. Will it not work if I don't do this step prior to bulding / connecting everything? I don't have another computer available to download the bios update and install the bios update to a flash drive. Help
Yes you have to have at least bios version 7C56vA9 to support that CPU.
So I would suggest using a friend/library/school PC to download the bios files required to do the update while you wait for your parts to arrive.
Having an issue, used to latest version, plugged it in. Light blinks for 5 seconds and turns off. No display still and graphics card won't turn on. All parts are properly mounted
Did it already do an update where it flashed for like 3-5 minutes or more? Or has it only every blinked for 5 seconds and stopped? If it's the later, then it is having problems finding/reading the bios file.
Make sure it's FAT32 formatted (preferably a smaller drive like 4gb or something) and the bios file for your motherboard is correctly named. In the case of this MSI board it was MSI.ROM and it should be in the root folder, not a sub-folder. And we're talking about the files inside the archive when you downloaded from the site. Because inside there is a rom file that you rename.
@Kardall I'm using the exact same motherboard, fat32 formated, named the file MSI.ROM it is a 16gb stick though since it's all I had. Nothing else is on it. The light blinied for about 3-5 seconds. Is there a specific version of the bipa update I should be using?
help!!! when i press the flash bios button, it wont blink at all
1. Did you extract the bios rom file to the root folder of the flash drive? or did you just put the zip file on the drive?
2. Did you rename the extracted rom file to MSI.ROM (case sensitive)?
Hey,
yeah i extracted the file and renamed it MSI.ROM, also i tried it with 2 different usb-sticks. Also converted them to mbr.
For the PC-Specs:
ryzen 5600
rx6750xt
MSI-B550-A-Pro
Seasonic G12 550W 80+ gold certified
so i´ve been trying at least 6hrs+
tried everything also putting the specs in my other pc, everything works but when i assemble everything in the MSI Motherboard and try to start it up it will say EZ DEBUG CPU light on, so i´ve assumed that the cpu or RAM dont work, but on a ASrock motherboard they work perfectly, so i´ve been trying to update the Bios of the Msi-Motherboard without any success, the light won´t even come on if i press the flas bios botton. Does that mean the Motherboard doesnt recognize the usb-stick or what?
i would appriciate some help :)@@Kardall
@@Reza-mc4kthey did you ever figure it out? I have the same problem and mother board as you
Hey, the video is very nice and helpful but do we have to do the same thing as you did with the screwdriver and the pin to show the Post?
If you are obligated, Why?
Im very interested about that stuff
The screwdriver to short the pins is simply because the motherboard is not installed in a case with a 'power button'. The screwdriver does the exact same thing as pushing the power button on a PC case. It causes a short between the two pins on the motherboards 'Front Panel IO' area, labeled "Power SW" usually.
You don't have to do this, but it's always good practice to ensure the system POSTs outside of the case before installing, that way if you need to RMA any faulty components beyond the RAM like lets say there's a problem with the motherboard itself, you don't have to spend the time to remove ALL of the components from the case. You just simply unplug and put it back in the box etc.. Saves time.
Plus, if the system POSTs outside of the case, and then does not when you put it in, you know something happened during the installation process that caused the issue.
The white light and fan stayed on for a couple seconds then went off and the red light stays on
Sounds like either it can't read the USB or the file is not renamed correctly perhaps.
How would I know if the BIOS Flashed if I have a Ryzen 5700x would I have to plug in my Graphics Card
and my ram to see
Yes you would because the 5700X does not have Integrated Graphics. Only way to test is to see if it POSTs.
Okay thanks man gonna get the motherboard and cpu tommorow so ye just making sure@@Kardall
Another question if I already have a SSD with Windows 10 installed on it and have stuff on it will it work if I have a new motherboard and cpu?@@Kardall
For some reason, the red light flashes for a few seconds, then stays red without flashing. What's going on?
Possibly a problem reading the file. Make sure you rename the file you downloaded to MSI.ROM and that it's a Fat32 (preferably small like 2gb) USB drive?
Shit, i am gonna do this and just hope the bios is flashed i dont wanna build in my gpu before the mboard is in the case. also would you recomend putting cpu cooler and ram on the motherboard before putting it into the case
Normally you put the essentials on the board to get to a POST screen. Just put it on the motherboard box, connect the CPU Power, 24-pin Motherboard Power, install your CPU and cooler (even temporarily just use the stock one to make sure it posts if you got an AIO or other cooler for the final build) and your graphics card if you don't have integrated graphics.
That way you know it works and you get a video output. Doing this will save you the many minutes of removing the board if necessary, remounting your cooler or anything of that sort.
Also, before you finish cable management, make sure the system posts in case you have to remove or unplug/replace cables etc..
There is no harm as long as you don't move the board rapidly and cause stress on the GPU socket it is installed on, and pretty much everyone does this. Those who don't risk the waste of time it takes to remove and swap out components after RMA'ing DOA components (like your motherboard). Super frustrating to have the entire system installed, and then the motherboard won't post because it has a bad CMOS chip, or someone else did a bad flash and bricked it, then returned it and it got re-entered into circulation and you ended up with it. It happens. Do things outside of the case for your own sanity.
@@Kardall ok yeah, i will thx, i assume u only need cpu and gpu for that no ram right?
For some reason when i do it the light flashes red constantly and jt doesnt stop. Its veen doing it for 2 hours, what do i do?
2 hours is a bit long ;o
While it's blinking it's usually writing something but... I don't know if turning the system off will brick it or not. Depends what it's doing. If it is writing and you turn off the system it will brick the board and you will have to replace it.
You could try contacting MSI and ask them what they suggest doing, and if they say to shut it off and it bricks it, then you can get a replacement because their tech agents told you to do it XD lol
@@Kardall well shit I've already flicked it off 😭
Same here
and can i still do this while the cpu /gpu and everything else is connected and installed
Yes you can. And to try to answer the other question. If the light is solid and lot blinking at all, then it has encountered some error and halted the update process. Go through the checklist of requirements: Fat32 Formatted Drive, Correct Bios for your motherboard downloaded, extracted the rom file to the USB, renamed the file to MSI.ROM
Try a different drive if it still does it, but that's all you should have to do.
Hey got a issue my Light was blinking for a few seconds and it's just the red light.
I wanted to ask if this is normal or if there is a problem
But it isn't blinking Just red
@@Bjelabosna Make sure that you have renamed the file correctly. If you have file extensions hidden, you may have renamed it MSI.ROM.C41 or whatever the original extension actually is. If it isn't called MSI.ROM then it will not be able to find it, which sounds like what it's doing. But there isn't a set LED patterns list anywhere.
Hey man, sorry if this question has already been answered. But I’m not getting the post screen. Connected HDMI screen, but screen saying no signal when the mobo boots. Any suggestions?
Edit: the bios process was fine. Light flashed then stopped etc. just cannot post.
If you have a graphics card installed, make sure you plug your monitor into that instead of the motherboard.
@@Kardall No GPU installed. I just unboxed parts and followed your full tutorial
Does it need to blink or can it stay on ? Does it matter ?
When you press the Flash Button, it should immediately start blinking which tells you that it is reading the USB and doing things. If it stays on, it's some sort of error. If it cannot see the MSI.ROM file on the USB drive, make sure it is renamed correctly (show file extensions if you have it disabled so it's not like MSI.ROM.a96 or whatever the original file was). And go through your checklist of FAT32 formatted, all files in the base drive not inside any folders on the USB drive, etc..
my b550 tomahawk didnt work after flash bios.I back board to store,now waiting seller answer what is wrong
Bad flashes do occur. Could be a problem with the board itself, or maybe the wrong bios version for the time. There are some boards that have a sequence of updates you have to do because they change the format of the bios file itself throughout the course of the lifespan of the motherboards update history.
B550 is still fairly new and I haven't seen many of them do this, mostly it is to do with AMD boards going from 1st Gen Ryzen through to the 5th Gen that have this issue more commonly.
Good luck, hope you get it sorted :)
@@Kardall when i conect board with psu looks fine,lights work,cpu and gpu fan work but do not recognize cpu.
Hi man I have a question if I do this will it work with the Ryzen 7 5700x
You can use this process to update the Bios period. Doesn't matter what CPU you have as long as it 'works in the board', this process lets you update the Bios without a CPU. So as long as you update it to a version that the CPU Compatibility lists as the minimum Bios that supports that particular CPU model, then you are good.
Okay man thanks @@Kardall
Hey, I was wonderingif it is possible to do this bios update, while a cpu is already installed. Or is there a different way for this?
Yes you can. Use the same process regarding power and such, and the system will work like normal. If you are trying to do an upgrade and you have video already though, you don't need to use this. You can do it the normal way by just using the flash utility in the bios itself. As long as you can get to the bios.
hey i’m running out of trouble shooting ideas. i’ve tried em all but why does mine stop blinking red after the white light comes on then blinks again for like 5 seconds and never blinks red again. i’ve done everything thing the way you did i even disk part cleaned the usb like others have recommended. i’ve still can’t find out why it won’t update the bios. thanks
Are you sure you're using the correct port? There is a specific one you use for the USB. On the rear IO shield it outlines it I believe in a border or labeled depending on the model. But it's usually the one next to the button if it's side by side.
Another thing, make sure you have the exact motherboard bios. For example, a B450 Gaming Plus Max is not the same as a B450M Gaming Plus Max, and a B450 Gaming Plus is not the same as a B450 Gaming Plus Max. Make sure it's the exact model.
Hi, i have done all things in the usb but when i turn on the flash button the red light flashes for 5 seconds and then the pc turn off without any white light on the motherboard
Thanks to show power on.
Hello and thank you for the video. On the official page, the new BIOS driver is version 7C56vAC1 (Beta version), which is still in beta. Should I use this version or the previous version that you are using in the video? What do you recommend I do?
Use the non beta one and see if it works. If you still have issues the beta one may fix a problem, however, it isn't 'stable' or it would be in release status so... risky.
Hey man i just finished a build and the cpu light was on so I checked it and stuff and no issue and I found your video and tried doing the bios everything was going along well like in your tutorial but I’m not posting after the red light is done blinking and still stuck on white cpu light
So the Bios LED flashed and after like 5 minutes or so it turned off? Sometimes the CPU light won't shut off on some models, but when the red light for the Flash Bios LED goes off, you should be able to power down the system and install your cooler and such so the system has a 'load' on the CPU_FAN header. Sometimes they won't POST as a self-preservation thing, so you don't overheat the CPU. Not sure how far you have gotten with the build, but you can assemble everything outside of the case on the motherboard box like I did in the video.
Hard to say what might be wrong.
@@Kardall sorry for not responding I didn’t download the right version of bios and there was also a ram issue where the ram I was using was not compatible with the motherboard my computer has now posted thanks for the help you a 🐐
Hey great video - for some reason no matter what I do I cannot update the bios on this mother board. I am trying it through mflash and for some reason the new bios version is never recognized. Any thoughts or suggestions?
When you do this through the bios, don't rename the file. This is only for using the Flash Bios Buttons on motherboards, where you cannot get into the bios.