Wonderful to see someone giving advice while riding a PRE. So often it is only warmbloods, which move differently and what works for them frequently needs a bit of modification for a shorter backed more upright type of horse. Your timing with this video is perfect as I was riding my squares with quarter turns last night to encourage my fellow to get his big shoulders around. Now that our velocity has dropped from warp 9 to something more sane (thanks to your circle to reduce speed video) I am definitely going to use the pentagon form for training the canter to correct his desire to fall in substantially on the right rein. Really, really appreciate the effort you put into your videos. I should have a t-shirt for riding that says, "Thank you Amelia Newcombe". 👍🐴
A horse is a horse is a horse. This kind of crookedness is common to all breeds. When you try to differentiate breeds you are causing yourself unnecessary confusion.
Thank you so much Amelia for sharing this. I have a big, green TB who has been dropping his shoulder's & making a big thing of going past the gate. I am a little rusty as it has been far too many years since I have taken on such a very green horse, but my boy is wonderful, very intelligent & very special. I had been trying to correct his shoulder drifts by trying to ride a deeper, longer outside leg (not forgetting to use the ask/hold then give/release of the outside rein) however this would sometimes work but not always & I would feel that I was sitting a little too deep in my outside hip at times. I watched your tutorial before riding today & everything you said + rode made complete sense. My knee has been coming off on the outside & even when this has happened slightly it has been enough for my green horse to get confused. So, I took on board all that you shared & the exercises that you rode.... and oh wow, fantastic, what a difference today's ride was! Thank you so much for helping me turn a big corner with my big fella (🙂literally!) We even got 3 excellent steps of the "Walk Pirouette" a couple of times today thanks to your instruction. Again, thank you so very much!
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Very helpful video. I ride an older qh mare who is crooked to the left. Until I knew better I'd always be doing all sorts of crazy things with my hands wondering why it didn't work. That's a hard habit to break too. Using too much hand. Thanks for making this video. I'm going to use squares and pentograms today!! And leg not hand. 🤠
Wow! This video is exactly what I need to hear. My 6yo horse keeps fall out or in in a circle and I am trying hard to correct this problem. Thanks for the tips I will try it and see the effect. Thanks so much.
Super helpful and timely. My horse bulges in to the right and nothing I’ve been doing has helped correct it. As a result I now see that my position needs to be reset and we need to work on riding squares. My right leg thanks you!
Well, I know this is an old video, but just wanted to say thank you so much for all the great explanations here. I knew the issue was mine and not my horse's. Turns out, I was correct and this video gave me the tool I needed to get my horse back into alignment on corners/circles. Thank you, again! I know my horse would thank you as well.
Of all the trainers videos I have watched & that is many, I absolutely love yours. You demonstrate exactly what is happening on the horse & why & what needs to happen to correct, you explain so very well. I am hooked on Amelia Newcomb Dressage, can't get enough now. I cannot wait to bring my horse back into work & start practising the tools, tips & demonstrations you have kindly shared.
This video is just great. We have been struggling a bit with our turning on a complete circle and I think that taking it back a notch and riding the square /pentagon exercises will absolutely do the trick. Thanks Amelia! Lovely horse.
Fantastic video, thank you! Buddy falls in on the right and bulges out to the left. Having watched you I now realise I've really been opening the gate for this to happen and now I have exercises to ride it to fix it.
Thanks much Linda! By the way, you probably know this but I'm giving a free webinar on the Dressage Training Scale, you will find it really helpful with your journey! You can sign up at the link below! I would love to see you there! But if you can't make it, sign up anyway as we can send you the recording! www.ameliasdressageacademy.com/trainingscalewebinar
my biggest problem the last weeks. but i lookt your older videos. and take this exercise earlyer en my problem is now less 70 % better. so thanks for the video. you are great.
This is the video that I needed cause I struggle a lot with my horse, I will put this into practice in our next flatwork. Thanks for making these videos Amelia.
Love your lessons and information Amelia. Practical and solution focused. You are a star. Thanks for all you do. This one particularly helpful for where we are at right now. Perfect timing. 🙏🏻
Great video! I’ve literally not found anything to showcase literally my problem! My friesian cross gelding is like riding a gummy worm, and all he does is bulge in or out like an expert. This video is wonderful and I can’t wait to try this on him :) thank you!!!
Once again great video. Pentagon canter here we come. Btw your video on the trot canter transitions already made a big difference to my mare's canter. I had forgotten about the walk squares. Know exactly what I am working on with my riding today.
Also, if you want to really get clarity, understanding, and progress on your dressage journey, sign up to my FREE webinar on the Dressage Training Scale on March 13th. www.ameliasdressageacademy.com/trainingscalewebinar I’m also on FB and IG (you might already know all this but I'm being super thorough today!) facebook.com/amelianewcombdressage & instagram.com/amelianewcombdressage/ Also, and this is super helpful too, join Amelia’s Dressage Club on Facebook, it’s a really active and engaged community of riders and no question goes unanswered! facebook.com/groups/ameliasdressageclub/ And finally, there’s my website! www.amelianewcombdressage.com/ And you can also sign up here for weekly dressage tips sent to your inbox www.ameliasdressageacademy.com/subscribe/ Ok that’s the lot I promise. Have an awesome day! 🐴
We were talking about this the other day so I find it interesting that you have a video on it. One of the things my mentor used to say about this was that it was really the hindquarters that needed help. It's one of those pieces that I haven't had many opportunities to dig into because my horses never seem to need it. I was wondering if walking or trotting the square is what you're thinking about because the horse has to disengage his hindquarters for the corner, reaching under with his inside hind foot. There are some elements that for some reason seem to work out well for me and I don't know why. I am not what I would consider a good rider, but I watch others who seem to be very graceful and smooth yet don't seem to get along with their horses. Someone said the other day that it feel they are missing. This journey gets very deep. Thank you for the great video. It is a highlight of my week to see you ride.
Super video once again, thank you! I ride a horse that likes to throw his shoulders in during the walk>trot transition - I assume it’s an evasion but I’m not sure how to fix it, any tips?
Thanks for explaining by demonstrating. I have a bad back and hips so my position makes the bulging worse and I seem to want to indirect rein over the neck, which my trainer always yells at me for. Now I can see it.
So my horse is crooked on the right. Really tough to just keep him going straight on that hand as he constantly falls in. Ignores my inside (right) leg, mostly. No problem on the other hand, and moves away from my inside leg then. Pretty frustrating. Will try what you suggested. Thanks for your helpful and clear videos.
Lol... YES! I NEED to watch my CHICKEN arms ❣❣ You have no idea how breaking down these 'issues' helps those of that have to struggle alone at home.. THANK you so very much❣❣ And the SQUARE exercise at different gaits REALLY helps clarify the signals/aids to the horse...yay!
I just had to comment that I tried the exercises at a walk and trot this morning with my green mule...and although it wasn't perfect yet, doing the square instead of circling him was SO much better, less frustrating for both of us! I also tried the pentagon, even though I think it's meant to do in canter, I did it in a trot. I sort of ended up with a different shape, but the theory was the same, I would trot a few strides straight then turn, few more strides, turn etc. Everything was so much smoother for us than the past few months trying to make even circles of varying sizes and patterns without a bulge! My big mule has big movement, but smooth, just steering has been so hard for me to work him through. With mules it really is about getting creative and changing things until you find what works...this is a success and I'm confident I will be able to train him more effectively now, thank you again and wanted to give you an actual update after application!
Hi Kelly, That is so cool that you are riding dressage with your mule! What great improvement you have made with him. It makes me so happy to know that you are finding the content helpful! I love hearing your success! So kind of you to take the time to give an update. If you have the time, would it be possible for you to put something similar in a Google review? g.page/r/CYIGmCINXFOQEAo/ It really helps give me more credibility and makes my content easier to find for other dressage students!
Thank you for this very helpful video! This is exactly what's happening to me with different horses so it must be something I'm doing wrong :) I'll definitely try this out next time!
Oooooh, why i didnt see that video before i went to ride my stable young horses.... thanks :) One, my favorite one is a nightmare and formed a habit to fall out or in, every corner...
This looks so useful to try with my mare. She falls in left almost constantly and my left leg gets very tired trying to keep her out. On the right rein she is much better but not very straight at all. Thank you Amelia I will certainly try these exercises!
Also, refer to Wendy Murdochs video on rib rotation. Sometimes a rib rotation one way or another can feel like a a dropped shoulder. She demonstrates this with a little horse skeleton and rider skeleton . My horse rotates his rib cage slightly right which causes my body to shear left, head tilt right. Tricky!
Laure McKinney A horse’s spine has different ability to bend depending on different parts of his body. For example the neck is flexible but the section through his rib cage can only bend a little bit. The theoretical bend is very small. He compensates by twisting his spine. This causes his rib cage to rotate. The rider feels this as one side of his ribcage dropping and the other side rising. It’s a little bit complicated. If his back is saggy he will tend to rotate counter clockwise on a left turn and clockwise in a right turn. I. E. versi versa on the other side. When a horse has been straightened by inappropriate exercises he may be sagged when turning one way and hogged when turning the other way. In that case he will tend to sagg on the same side regardless of which way he is turning This is hard to describe in writing. The easiest way to understand it is perform an experiment. Cut out a strip of stiff paper about 1/4 inch wide and about 6 inches long and try bending it in it’s own plane. You will see that it will twist and the direction of the twist will depend on whether you allow it to Hogg or sagg. You will notice that it HAS to twist in order to bend laterally. IMHO if you use the method I have suggested in my previous remarks you should have no trouble getting him straightened correctly. The basic method is based on an article that Charles Dekunfy had written many years ago in a magazine. Forgive me for for my inadequate explanation, but I’m typing this at 4:00 in the morning.🥵
@@danielthomas3333 Yes! My mare has a very rotated rib cage, possibly from foal bearing. She's very sprung and can really shove the rider around with her ribs. So she appears to be bending on the circle, but actually drops the inside shoulder. She doesn't appear counter bent, but it's fake. It's very difficult for her to bend her sprung ribs. The most challenging thing to teach her, which is completely counter intuitive to her but is helping is the HQ in. She wants to push from the shoulder. Was SO hard to get the tiniest understanding of this into her. She's also a big bossy lead mare who loves to push horses and people around on the ground. We've had a few talks about this and she doesn't pull it with me. I have pics of her standing 4 square with those ribs rotates and a very tilted pelvis. Ah, the joys of corrective work.
Thank you so much!! Your videos really help me to become a better rider and make my horse happier when I ride. I cant wait to try this out! ( By the way you are amazing at riding! )
My horse bulges his right shoulder on the left rein and doesn't want to give in his poll when going right. I think it is a right hind leg problem as he finds it harder to leg yield off my left leg than off my right. Whenever you ask him for something a little tougher his general reaction is to slow down - I think he is passive aggressive lol.. Thanks Amelia - I will try the square for sure!
Very good examples to show where the shoulder is going when the horse is falling in. Good reminder to pay attention to one's outside knee! Thanks again! You are a very good communicator and teacher!
Great video Amelia :) my horse likes to challenge me lol he does both lol I'm sure his thinking gate now and it's very mild and he tends to bulge going right and fall in going to the left slightly, we are working on that. Our spiral in and out on a circle was making it worse so I'll try these as I've done this in the past and it works really well. Also we need to look at our position and I've got a slight collapse in my left rib area due to injury and his very sensitive so tells me by falling in lol I'm working on that too and hope I can improve this over time.
I have the same with my blind mare. She falls out through the right shoulder on the left rein. It’s generally back towards the stables, so this makes complete sense. She must know where we are in the school and recognise the sounds of the stables and ‘would rather’ go back there. Will give these exercises a try. Thanks
Thank you for sharing this. My horse isn't young but does this when I ask him for trot!! Last night I practiced the exercises at the walk only. Any suggestions to help him go into a trot without blowing out his shoulder or giving me resistance would certainly appreciated. Thanks ❤
I started lessons for jumping about 10 months ago. I have been constantly taught that I should use my inside leg to bend the haunch of the horse and my outside rein to straighten the shoulder, using primarily my calf for pressure. I would like your take on this. I just recently purchased a horse, and he seems to like to fall out quite a bit. I feel like the instructions I have been given are exacerbating the situation instead of fixing it. Your video has techniques I would like to try on my next ride. I am also pretty new to technical riding, so I am not sure if this is only a dressage practice or if it ties over to all styles of riding (hunter/jumper especially). TIA for any input!
Great question! What happens when you use your inside leg is that your horse is moving over slightly to the outside, and your outside leg and rein are there to catch the horse and keep them from drifting out. This video on the bending aids might help clarify: amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/bend-your-horses-body/
A little question - I have a left knee issue, broken knee cap some time ago and a pin in it. My darn toe turns out LOOKS HORRIBLE of course! but its impossible to bring my knee in.
Since I found your videos I don't have enough time to watch them along they are so interesting and useful for me...thanks a lot for all your work and sharing! Best regards from France (Provence) .
Thanks Kim! So glad you like them! Have you taken the rider position assessment!? Here's the link if you'd like to! www.ameliasdressageacademy.com/dressage-rider-quiz/ Also, head over to Facebook and join the Dressage Club, there's a lovely engaged and supportive community of riders with a wealth of knowledge! No query goes unanswered! facebook.com/groups/ameliasdressageclub/ Thanks for watching and happy riding!
I've struggled with this since the year dot and now I know why. That's an absolutely fabulous explanation; so clear and precise. I especially loved the exercises at the end on the square, etc. I can't wait to get up to the yard to try this! Thank you!!!!!!
My horse is coming back to work after a tendon injury. He is sound and has been slowly increasing his workouts over the last few months. We are cantering him, BUT he has developed a really bad habit of running to the gate with me. He literally locks his head and drags me. No matter how much I try to use my outside leg and rein. I've even used the crop to tap his outside shoulder. I've tried a bigger spur and counter-bending. He is fine at the walk and trot. Canter is a disaster. He does NOT do it with the trainer. I am so frustrated. And, my trainer told me I need to find someone that can teach me better because he can't. I'm hoping to find help. Until then, I will keep trying using these tips. Any other help for a difficult horse that runs away at the canter would be helpful 😞
This video was so helpful. My 5 year old has this problem to the right and i cant figure out how to fix it. It makes perfect sense breaking it down by riding a square or pentagon. Thanks for the help!!!
Thank you for the video. I was having back problems. My pelvis was out of alignment. I see how I created the shoulder falling in. Now I see what I need to do.
Wonderful video. I am having issues with the left lead canter bulging out to the right. I am okay at walk and trot but shoulder bulges out on a circle. I believe his issue is crookedness so trying to schedule a chiropractor to evaluate. Should I stay with walk and trot going left until he is solid or just lunge going left instead of riding him so he does get to canter in that direction ?
You could also check out this video to see if it will help! amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/get-your-horse-straight-in-the-canter/?TH-cam&Weekly+Education
Hey you tube guys- your including annoying pain in the ass commercials every 90 seconds is very off putting.. Stop it.. If you don't stop doing this I am going to start an advertiser boycott movement that is going to cost you millions. You have been warned.. best Bruce Peek
really happy i found this! the mare i ride falls quiet a bit in on the left lead and seems to want to ignore my left leg. going to give this a try tomorrow!
Thank you Amelia!! The square and pentogram are excellent ideas for me. My horse bulges out going to the right trot and right lead canter. Can't wait to try this.
This was a great lesson!! As someone who has been riding for five years this is a problem that I've honestly only just begun to come to grips with. Love how you stressed the position of the outside knee and the consistency of hand position as critical. Your videos have been consistently helpful to me during the past year. Thanks.
Currently riding a Percheron cross who was formerly used for jousting. The boy Continuously tries to pull towards the middle (inside). Hoping this will work with him!
My instructor doesn’t allow me to use my outside leg/knee to correct the horse from bulging out. She emphasizes ‘knees and thighs away’ and ‘seat is king’ when riding all gaits. What would you suggest?
I've seen videos dealing with this problem before. But every trainer sees things from a different angle. That's why your demonstration is so informative. Though I'm a western rider I like ypur personal riding style and I try to emulate your riding position (not pulling the legs up, not sitting on the cantle and so on) The English and wester riding styles are not as different as people claim.
Amelia, when you use your inside leg, does the pressure of your calf is constant all the circle or you give only impulses (when hind leg is going under belly)?
I've not really had to work through a shoulder bulge issue until I got my new mount about 8 months ago, as this big guy is green broke and most of the equines I've ridden in my lifetime have been already trained. This video is so concise and informative for my issue! I know it is me as well as him of course, so I am excited to try this all out tomorrow, as I've been trying different things out on my own here and there and making minimal progress. I feel kind of silly for not thinking of trying squares instead of circles! I was actually doing MORE circles with him thinking that would help, but I think it's just making us both dizzy and nuts...I've been doing spiral ins/outs, 8s, small circles etc. Wish I had looked for help with this sooner! He is also a draft mule of which he is my 1st non-horse to ride ever, and his shoulder bulges are so strong I have been much more frustrated both physically and mentally as this has been a hurdle I haven't been able to move past with him yet. Other mule people have actually told me that shoulder bulges seem to be a common issue specifically with mules, but until my big boy started making a habit of this a few months ago, I just brushed it off. Well, I did get a green broke mule to challenge myself, so here I am haha...such a great video with clear and simple direction and tips to use for a variety of riders and mounts!
This video was extremely helpful. My gelding tends to lean to the inside. It is quite helpful to see the correction. Great tips and can't wait to try them this week.
I love these videos. I stumbled upon one while looking for videos for a friend who has been struggling with picking up the correct canter lead. Since then, I've watched several of your videos and really find them enjoyable and helpful, especially as I'm about to send one of my horses to a trainer to start, then I'll be continuing her education at home. I came to this video because I was trying to explain to that same friend how to keep her horse from falling through his shoulder, but it's all helpful and I look forward to watching many more videos. Even if it's not something I'm currently struggling with, I can store the info away and refer back if I need to. I have to comment on THIS video, because that horse is just gorgeous. (I'm a sucker for a baroque horse). Anyway, just wanted to relay that I love your videos and say thanks for sharing your knowledge in such well-produced content.
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Really great examples! I could clearly understand what the horse was doing and how you corrected it! Thank you as always!!
brilliant reminders of my old training days , thank you 😊 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
Wonderful to see someone giving advice while riding a PRE. So often it is only warmbloods, which move differently and what works for them frequently needs a bit of modification for a shorter backed more upright type of horse. Your timing with this video is perfect as I was riding my squares with quarter turns last night to encourage my fellow to get his big shoulders around. Now that our velocity has dropped from warp 9 to something more sane (thanks to your circle to reduce speed video) I am definitely going to use the pentagon form for training the canter to correct his desire to fall in substantially on the right rein. Really, really appreciate the effort you put into your videos. I should have a t-shirt for riding that says, "Thank you Amelia Newcombe". 👍🐴
A horse is a horse is a horse. This kind of crookedness is common to all breeds.
When you try to differentiate breeds you are causing yourself unnecessary confusion.
Have you ever ridden a PRE? If not then you are not speaking from experience.
Excellent and it works
Great teaching and really explained well
Glad you liked it
Beautifully explained - thank you!!
Thank you so much Amelia for sharing this. I have a big, green TB who has been dropping his shoulder's & making a big thing of going past the gate. I am a little rusty as it has been far too many years since I have taken on such a very green horse, but my boy is wonderful, very intelligent & very special. I had been trying to correct his shoulder drifts by trying to ride a deeper, longer outside leg (not forgetting to use the ask/hold then give/release of the outside rein) however this would sometimes work but not always & I would feel that I was sitting a little too deep in my outside hip at times. I watched your tutorial before riding today & everything you said + rode made complete sense. My knee has been coming off on the outside & even when this has happened slightly it has been enough for my green horse to get confused. So, I took on board all that you shared & the exercises that you rode.... and oh wow, fantastic, what a difference today's ride was! Thank you so much for helping me turn a big corner with my big fella (🙂literally!) We even got 3 excellent steps of the "Walk Pirouette" a couple of times today thanks to your instruction. Again, thank you so very much!
Yay! I love this - thank you so much for sharing. Great work with you and your boy!
Love this video! I’ve use the Pentagon and the turn on the hind quarters often to lighten the shoulders. Thank you for explaining it so succinctly!
This is terrific. My mare is bulging in and out at various times. Working on this very issue. Thanks so much.
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Very helpful video. I ride an older qh mare who is crooked to the left. Until I knew better I'd always be doing all sorts of crazy things with my hands wondering why it didn't work. That's a hard habit to break too. Using too much hand. Thanks for making this video. I'm going to use squares and pentograms today!! And leg not hand. 🤠
Wow! This video is exactly what I need to hear. My 6yo horse keeps fall out or in in a circle and I am trying hard to correct this problem. Thanks for the tips I will try it and see the effect. Thanks so much.
My horse falls to the right or going to the right in the open end he tries to change the bend to the left. He isnt supple to th right 😟
Super helpful and timely. My horse bulges in to the right and nothing I’ve been doing has helped correct it. As a result I now see that my position needs to be reset and we need to work on riding squares. My right leg thanks you!
That makes me so happy to hear!
This video really helped me. I will definitely use the exercises!
yes my horse bulges out on the right rein and falls in on the left. this video really helped me!
I'm coming back to this a year later & something else is helping me from the video.. The knees!!!! Thank u again 💓
Yes!! Less are helpful for turning!!
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage how did I manage before lol. Knees are so helpful!!
Well, I know this is an old video, but just wanted to say thank you so much for all the great explanations here. I knew the issue was mine and not my horse's. Turns out, I was correct and this video gave me the tool I needed to get my horse back into alignment on corners/circles. Thank you, again! I know my horse would thank you as well.
You're very welcome!
This is a FABULOUS video Amelia..very helpful for young, need a fix and new to dressage folks.
Of all the trainers videos I have watched & that is many, I absolutely love yours. You demonstrate exactly what is happening on the horse & why & what needs to happen to correct, you explain so very well. I am hooked on Amelia Newcomb Dressage, can't get enough now. I cannot wait to bring my horse back into work & start practising the tools, tips & demonstrations you have kindly shared.
What a wonderful idea to do a square instead of a circle to help with the release. I can't wait to try it! Thank you for another wonderful video!
Yes! It really does help!
This video is just great. We have been struggling a bit with our turning on a complete circle and I think that taking it back a notch and riding the square /pentagon exercises will absolutely do the trick. Thanks Amelia! Lovely horse.
Fantastic video, thank you! Buddy falls in on the right and bulges out to the left. Having watched you I now realise I've really been opening the gate for this to happen and now I have exercises to ride it to fix it.
Thanks much Linda! By the way, you probably know this but I'm giving a free webinar on the Dressage Training Scale, you will find it really helpful with your journey! You can sign up at the link below! I would love to see you there! But if you can't make it, sign up anyway as we can send you the recording!
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Thank you for reinforcing what my trainer says to do
my biggest problem the last weeks. but i lookt your older videos. and take this exercise earlyer en my problem is now less 70 % better. so thanks for the video. you are great.
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much for making these videos they are incredibly helpful!!
This is the video that I needed cause I struggle a lot with my horse, I will put this into practice in our next flatwork. Thanks for making these videos Amelia.
You're so welcome! Glad to hear the videos are helpful!
Love your lessons and information Amelia. Practical and solution focused. You are a star. Thanks for all you do. This one particularly helpful for where we are at right now. Perfect timing. 🙏🏻
Great video! I’ve literally not found anything to showcase literally my problem! My friesian cross gelding is like riding a gummy worm, and all he does is bulge in or out like an expert. This video is wonderful and I can’t wait to try this on him :) thank you!!!
Glad it helped!!
This is exactly what my horse does! Thank you so much!!! Perfect training for me ❤️❤️❤️
Once again great video. Pentagon canter here we come. Btw your video on the trot canter transitions already made a big difference to my mare's canter. I had forgotten about the walk squares. Know exactly what I am working on with my riding today.
Love that pentagon exercise at the canter ❤️🙏🏻
Thanks Chelsea! Yeah it's awesome! And thanks for watching!
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Extremely helpful. Thank you!😊
You're so welcome!
Amazingly helpful for me as I have a difficult time going in one direction! This is very practical and easy to remember. Thank you so much!
Wonderful content Amelia! I greatly enjoy your videos , the help so much in my riding journey!
We were talking about this the other day so I find it interesting that you have a video on it. One of the things my mentor used to say about this was that it was really the hindquarters that needed help. It's one of those pieces that I haven't had many opportunities to dig into because my horses never seem to need it. I was wondering if walking or trotting the square is what you're thinking about because the horse has to disengage his hindquarters for the corner, reaching under with his inside hind foot. There are some elements that for some reason seem to work out well for me and I don't know why. I am not what I would consider a good rider, but I watch others who seem to be very graceful and smooth yet don't seem to get along with their horses. Someone said the other day that it feel they are missing. This journey gets very deep. Thank you for the great video. It is a highlight of my week to see you ride.
It's so easy to point out others' flaws. It's much harder to work on our own.
Awesome tips again, thanks Amelia 😊👍🏻👌🏻can I just say that horse you are riding is just beautiful !! 😍😍😍
It’s Excellent & useful video Thanks very much Amella
This is a great help! Thanks Amelia👍🐎
Super video once again, thank you!
I ride a horse that likes to throw his shoulders in during the walk>trot transition - I assume it’s an evasion but I’m not sure how to fix it, any tips?
Thanks for explaining by demonstrating. I have a bad back and hips so my position makes the bulging worse and I seem to want to indirect rein over the neck, which my trainer always yells at me for. Now I can see it.
So my horse is crooked on the right. Really tough to just keep him going straight on that hand as he constantly falls in. Ignores my inside (right) leg, mostly. No problem on the other hand, and moves away from my inside leg then. Pretty frustrating. Will try what you suggested. Thanks for your helpful and clear videos.
When you push the shoulder with with your leg, do you mean “kick back” with your leg or touch the shoulder?
Loved this vdeo and he exercises are clear and look effective. Can't wait to try them!
Lol...
YES!
I NEED to watch my CHICKEN arms ❣❣
You have no idea how breaking down these 'issues' helps those of that have to struggle alone at home..
THANK you so very much❣❣
And the SQUARE exercise at different gaits REALLY helps clarify the signals/aids to the horse...yay!
Thank you, I’m going to try this today
I just had to comment that I tried the exercises at a walk and trot this morning with my green mule...and although it wasn't perfect yet, doing the square instead of circling him was SO much better, less frustrating for both of us! I also tried the pentagon, even though I think it's meant to do in canter, I did it in a trot. I sort of ended up with a different shape, but the theory was the same, I would trot a few strides straight then turn, few more strides, turn etc. Everything was so much smoother for us than the past few months trying to make even circles of varying sizes and patterns without a bulge! My big mule has big movement, but smooth, just steering has been so hard for me to work him through. With mules it really is about getting creative and changing things until you find what works...this is a success and I'm confident I will be able to train him more effectively now, thank you again and wanted to give you an actual update after application!
Hi Kelly,
That is so cool that you are riding dressage with your mule! What great improvement you have made with him. It makes me so happy to know that you are finding the content helpful! I love hearing your success!
So kind of you to take the time to give an update. If you have the time, would it be possible for you to put something similar in a Google review? g.page/r/CYIGmCINXFOQEAo/
It really helps give me more credibility and makes my content easier to find for other dressage students!
Thank you for this very helpful video! This is exactly what's happening to me with different horses so it must be something I'm doing wrong :) I'll definitely try this out next time!
Oooooh, why i didnt see that video before i went to ride my stable young horses.... thanks :)
One, my favorite one is a nightmare and formed a habit to fall out or in, every corner...
Chicken arm, liked that description. Sees that all the time :D
This looks so useful to try with my mare. She falls in left almost constantly and my left leg gets very tired trying to keep her out. On the right rein she is much better but not very straight at all. Thank you Amelia I will certainly try these exercises!
Also, refer to Wendy Murdochs video on rib rotation. Sometimes a rib rotation one way or another can feel like a a dropped shoulder. She demonstrates this with a little horse skeleton and rider skeleton . My horse rotates his rib cage slightly right which causes my body to shear left, head tilt right. Tricky!
The horse will rotate his thoracic torso when assuming a bend. How exactly he does this is a result of his straightness/crookedness.
Daniel Thomas Can you tell me more about this?
Laure McKinney
A horse’s spine has different ability to bend depending on different parts of his body. For example the neck is flexible but the section through his rib cage can only bend a little bit. The theoretical bend is very small. He compensates by twisting his spine. This causes his rib cage to rotate. The rider feels this as one side of his ribcage dropping and the other side rising.
It’s a little bit complicated. If his back is saggy he will tend to rotate counter clockwise on a left turn and clockwise in a right turn. I. E. versi versa on the other side.
When a horse has been straightened by inappropriate exercises he may be sagged when turning one way and hogged when turning the other way. In that case he will tend to sagg on the same side regardless of which way he is turning
This is hard to describe in writing. The easiest way to understand it is perform an experiment.
Cut out a strip of stiff paper about 1/4 inch wide and about 6 inches long and try bending it in it’s own plane. You will see that it will twist and the direction of the twist will depend on whether you allow it to Hogg or sagg.
You will notice that it HAS to twist in order to bend laterally.
IMHO if you use the method I have suggested in my previous remarks you should have no trouble getting him straightened correctly.
The basic method is based on an article that Charles Dekunfy had written many years ago in a magazine.
Forgive me for for my inadequate explanation, but I’m typing this at 4:00 in the morning.🥵
Daniel Thomas Thank you! I better study this as I have never been educated to understand this idea. I'll try to find the article.
@@danielthomas3333 Yes! My mare has a very rotated rib cage, possibly from foal bearing. She's very sprung and can really shove the rider around with her ribs. So she appears to be bending on the circle, but actually drops the inside shoulder. She doesn't appear counter bent, but it's fake. It's very difficult for her to bend her sprung ribs. The most challenging thing to teach her, which is completely counter intuitive to her but is helping is the HQ in. She wants to push from the shoulder. Was SO hard to get the tiniest understanding of this into her. She's also a big bossy lead mare who loves to push horses and people around on the ground. We've had a few talks about this and she doesn't pull it with me. I have pics of her standing 4 square with those ribs rotates and a very tilted pelvis. Ah, the joys of corrective work.
Dang, you just described my baby horse to a tee! I'll be working on this with him.
Thank you so much!! Your videos really help me to become a better rider and make my horse happier when I ride. I cant wait to try this out! ( By the way you are amazing at riding! )
My horse bulges his right shoulder on the left rein and doesn't want to give in his poll when going right. I think it is a right hind leg problem as he finds it harder to leg yield off my left leg than off my right. Whenever you ask him for something a little tougher his general reaction is to slow down - I think he is passive aggressive lol.. Thanks Amelia - I will try the square for sure!
Does your horse tend to lean (or bulge) more to the right or to the left? It will be interesting to see which is more common! Thanks for commenting!!
Right 🐎🐎
Super helpful, mine mainly falls out. Can’t wait to try this today, specifically the square and Pentagon.
Love that gorgeous gray!
Falls out to the right
Thank you so much for this video! This has been THE thing (to the right) my ottb and I have been struggling with!
Right!
Very good examples to show where the shoulder is going when the horse is falling in. Good reminder to pay attention to one's outside knee! Thanks again! You are a very good communicator and teacher!
Amelia: this is most common for young or green horses
Me with a 22 year old horse that isn’t green but falls in 😑😑😑
It will work for older horses too!
I love it looks so easy. Could you show turn on the haunches. I think about to much. Maybe making it harder then it is.
Here you go! th-cam.com/video/IxDWecimZC4/w-d-xo.html
Great video Amelia :) my horse likes to challenge me lol he does both lol I'm sure his thinking gate now and it's very mild and he tends to bulge going right and fall in going to the left slightly, we are working on that. Our spiral in and out on a circle was making it worse so I'll try these as I've done this in the past and it works really well. Also we need to look at our position and I've got a slight collapse in my left rib area due to injury and his very sensitive so tells me by falling in lol I'm working on that too and hope I can improve this over time.
I have the same with my blind mare. She falls out through the right shoulder on the left rein. It’s generally back towards the stables, so this makes complete sense. She must know where we are in the school and recognise the sounds of the stables and ‘would rather’ go back there. Will give these exercises a try. Thanks
Great ideas! 💙🐴
Thank you for sharing this. My horse isn't young but does this when I ask him for trot!! Last night I practiced the exercises at the walk only. Any suggestions to help him go into a trot without blowing out his shoulder or giving me resistance would certainly appreciated. Thanks ❤
I started lessons for jumping about 10 months ago. I have been constantly taught that I should use my inside leg to bend the haunch of the horse and my outside rein to straighten the shoulder, using primarily my calf for pressure. I would like your take on this. I just recently purchased a horse, and he seems to like to fall out quite a bit. I feel like the instructions I have been given are exacerbating the situation instead of fixing it. Your video has techniques I would like to try on my next ride. I am also pretty new to technical riding, so I am not sure if this is only a dressage practice or if it ties over to all styles of riding (hunter/jumper especially). TIA for any input!
Great question! What happens when you use your inside leg is that your horse is moving over slightly to the outside, and your outside leg and rein are there to catch the horse and keep them from drifting out. This video on the bending aids might help clarify: amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/bend-your-horses-body/
Thank you!!!@@AmeliaNewcombDressage
This is a really clear explanation of what happens and what to do .. thank you Amelia!
Thank you so much for breaking this down, I love to listen to your voice and words of encouragement
A little question - I have a left knee issue, broken knee cap some time ago and a pin in it. My darn toe turns out LOOKS HORRIBLE of course! but its impossible to bring my knee in.
Just " the square de la guérinière" a very good exercice !!
This is my life- I say turn; he says I don’t wanna turn… my trainer tells me to ride thinking squares which works better and now I understand why🎉❤
Since I found your videos I don't have enough time to watch them along they are so interesting and useful for me...thanks a lot for all your work and sharing! Best regards from France (Provence) .
GORGEOUS horse and wonderful tips. Exactly what I needed. Thxs
Great video!
Very helpful esp. Riding the square. Thanks so much for such good training instruction.
Very helpful thank you
Absolutely Brilliant! Great Examples
Thanks Kim! So glad you like them!
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This is very helpful demonstration & description of how to build symmetry. Thank you
I've struggled with this since the year dot and now I know why. That's an absolutely fabulous explanation; so clear and precise. I especially loved the exercises at the end on the square, etc. I can't wait to get up to the yard to try this! Thank you!!!!!!
My horse is coming back to work after a tendon injury. He is sound and has been slowly increasing his workouts over the last few months. We are cantering him, BUT he has developed a really bad habit of running to the gate with me. He literally locks his head and drags me. No matter how much I try to use my outside leg and rein. I've even used the crop to tap his outside shoulder. I've tried a bigger spur and counter-bending. He is fine at the walk and trot. Canter is a disaster. He does NOT do it with the trainer. I am so frustrated. And, my trainer told me I need to find someone that can teach me better because he can't. I'm hoping to find help. Until then, I will keep trying using these tips. Any other help for a difficult horse that runs away at the canter would be helpful 😞
Just had this lesson today on my youngster. His bulging shoulder makes LL canter difficult! The square will be so helpful.
This video was so helpful. My 5 year old has this problem to the right and i cant figure out how to fix it. It makes perfect sense breaking it down by riding a square or pentagon. Thanks for the help!!!
Thank you for the video. I was having back problems. My pelvis was out of alignment. I see how I created the shoulder falling in. Now I see what I need to do.
Wonderful video. I am having issues with the left lead canter bulging out to the right. I am okay at walk and trot but shoulder bulges out on a circle. I believe his issue is crookedness so trying to schedule a chiropractor to evaluate. Should I stay with walk and trot going left until he is solid or just lunge going left instead of riding him so he does get to canter in that direction ?
You could also check out this video to see if it will help! amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/get-your-horse-straight-in-the-canter/?TH-cam&Weekly+Education
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Bruce Peek
I never could imagine and thought about my knees opening the door of the shoulders ! Hope with this good advice I will improve 👍🏇🐴🤩🤩🇫🇷
really happy i found this! the mare i ride falls quiet a bit in on the left lead and seems to want to ignore my left leg. going to give this a try tomorrow!
I have a 4 year old that bulges and falls in. I can’t wait to try these exercises!
Thank you Amelia!! The square and pentogram are excellent ideas for me. My horse bulges out going to the right trot and right lead canter. Can't wait to try this.
Thank you! dealing with this problem currently & very fustrated
thanky ypu !
This was a great lesson!! As someone who has been riding for five years this is a problem that I've honestly only just begun to come to grips with. Love how you stressed the position of the outside knee and the consistency of hand position as critical. Your videos have been consistently helpful to me during the past year. Thanks.
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Currently riding a Percheron cross who was formerly used for jousting. The boy Continuously tries to pull towards the middle (inside). Hoping this will work with him!
yep, just had a work out today with a horse constantly falling right...
My instructor doesn’t allow me to use my outside leg/knee to correct the horse from bulging out. She emphasizes ‘knees and thighs away’ and ‘seat is king’ when riding all gaits. What would you suggest?
I've seen videos dealing with this problem before. But every trainer sees things from a different angle. That's why your demonstration is so informative. Though I'm a western rider I like ypur personal riding style and I try to emulate your riding position (not pulling the legs up, not sitting on the cantle and so on) The English and wester riding styles are not as different as people claim.
Best explanation video! Clearly explained the issue and how to work to improve. Thank you so much!
really well explained, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mine falls out terribly to the right!
Yes! Lost of them do !!!
Amelia, when you use your inside leg, does the pressure of your calf is constant all the circle or you give only impulses (when hind leg is going under belly)?
I've not really had to work through a shoulder bulge issue until I got my new mount about 8 months ago, as this big guy is green broke and most of the equines I've ridden in my lifetime have been already trained. This video is so concise and informative for my issue! I know it is me as well as him of course, so I am excited to try this all out tomorrow, as I've been trying different things out on my own here and there and making minimal progress. I feel kind of silly for not thinking of trying squares instead of circles! I was actually doing MORE circles with him thinking that would help, but I think it's just making us both dizzy and nuts...I've been doing spiral ins/outs, 8s, small circles etc. Wish I had looked for help with this sooner! He is also a draft mule of which he is my 1st non-horse to ride ever, and his shoulder bulges are so strong I have been much more frustrated both physically and mentally as this has been a hurdle I haven't been able to move past with him yet. Other mule people have actually told me that shoulder bulges seem to be a common issue specifically with mules, but until my big boy started making a habit of this a few months ago, I just brushed it off. Well, I did get a green broke mule to challenge myself, so here I am haha...such a great video with clear and simple direction and tips to use for a variety of riders and mounts!
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing! Riding really is a journey :)
This video was extremely helpful. My gelding tends to lean to the inside. It is quite helpful to see the correction. Great tips and can't wait to try them this week.
Glad it was helpful! Let me know how it works out for you!
one of my favorite videos of yours
aww thank you!
I love these videos. I stumbled upon one while looking for videos for a friend who has been struggling with picking up the correct canter lead. Since then, I've watched several of your videos and really find them enjoyable and helpful, especially as I'm about to send one of my horses to a trainer to start, then I'll be continuing her education at home. I came to this video because I was trying to explain to that same friend how to keep her horse from falling through his shoulder, but it's all helpful and I look forward to watching many more videos. Even if it's not something I'm currently struggling with, I can store the info away and refer back if I need to. I have to comment on THIS video, because that horse is just gorgeous. (I'm a sucker for a baroque horse). Anyway, just wanted to relay that I love your videos and say thanks for sharing your knowledge in such well-produced content.
Yay!! Glad to hear this!!