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- Some of your favorite pro golfers like Phil Mickelson, Patrick Reed, and Lexi Thompson have been caught cheating at golf. We will examine if Tiger Woods and Arnold Palmer broke the rules on the PGA.
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In the Pro Golfer Gets Caught CHEATING video we take a closer look at Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Phil Mickelson, Patrick Reed, Lexi Thompson and a few others to see if they broke the rules of golf.
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Useing the rules to your advantage is NOT cheating.
It's like being blamed for using the tax rules.
Its like you can move the ball free of penalty and you put it on a stone and hit it from there because you would use rule to take advantage if you would 've put it on a fairway
Right
But breaking a rule to your advantage is.
@@mrwonderful1584 who broke it ? Mickelson didn't he hit moving ball...he broke it, but we can play word games here what he did/didn't break it or use it for advantage...he broke it but stikl he had an advantege over if he didn't...even breaking rules, if you still have advantage is not CHEATING its breaking the rule...
Taking advantage of rules is fine.. but cheating is cheating
Patrick and his wife are douches
Using the rules to your advantage is not cheating.
Lexi got a raw deal. The mistake wasn't a 4 shot infraction. It had no bearing on the result it was only a fraction of an inch on the green with a short putt.
She knew how long has she been playing golf. It's just like brady and the footballs and people saying brady wouldn't be able to tell they had 2 psi lower than the 14psi😂😂 they are both pro athletes of course they cheated!😂 js no hate one love👍
@@bobbyhall7472 i mean brady's situation is a lot different especially because that is a different sport... she moved her ball less than an inch, no matter how she putted it, she would not have missed because it does not make a difference. she probably did it on accident
It’s still cheating and she has a responsibility to the field to play by the rules or accept the penalty. Since she finished the round and signed her score card incorrectly that could actually disqualify her. And as far as a fraction of an inch, if you play golf then you should know that that can be the difference in making and missing a short put. Why do you think players do it if it doesn’t help? And plenty of players do it, I know some who have made an art of it.
@@ishrocc4489 Do you golf? 1 inch can be a humongous difference, especially mentally
@@zanierrules do you know golf? I’m pretty sure i do cuz ive been playing before i started walking. It is by rule a penalty, we can’t change that, but i doubt she did it on purpose and it would not affect her putt at all for a few reasons.
1. It was a very close putt, looked around 1-2 feet, an inch either way would not change the aimpoint and result of the putt, especially because it looked like a very flat putt
2. It was moved forward, not to the side, and due to the reason stated before, it would not change her aimpoint
3. Due to these reasons why would she intentionally make this action knowing it’s would be a a penalty on a random 2ft putt??? It would make no sense for her to change it just due to the fact that it doesn’t change how she plays the putt at all.
One inch from that distance will not change how you should play that putt.
Once the scorecard is signed and accepted... should not matter. Stop the call-in and emails from spectators.
Paul Azinger got disqualified back in the early 90s at the Doral Open while on the lead when he accidentally caused a rock to move when hitting a mostly submerged ball out of a lake because some over zealous fan saw it on TV and called it in. He was DQed for signing an incorrect scorecard because the penalty was assessed the next morning.
Using the same standard Tiger should have been disqualified from the Masters the year he took an illegal drop for signing an incorrect scorecard...but the Masters and PGA knew how much money they would miss out on if Tiger didn't play the weekend.
But I agree 100% No other sport allows this.
Lexington Thompsons was ridiculous. Not a single person on this planet could replace ball EXECATLY in same spot without a shadow of a doubt.
The issue was that she placed the ball differently relative to her marker than when she picked it up to mark it. I've seen people put marker between the ball and the cup to pick it up, then when they replace the ball, they place the ball between the marker and the cup. They've moved one ball plus the marker closer to the cup. It's not a huge advantage, but it's not legal; however, it shouldn't be a 4-stroke penalty and viewers at home shouldn't be able to alert officials to the violation.
why would phil get disqualified. it literally says the penalty is 2 strokes and not disqualification. can people not read?!?
Mark O'Meara in Paris. I saw it live and almost fell out of my chair. Jarmo Sandelin called him out but was ignored because he's such a goofy character. But it was 100 percent intentional. Gotta love the European Tour camera shots back in the day. That ball rolled just outside Mark's comfort zone and it's almost like the cameraman knew it!
Is there a video of this somewhere?
Fans should NEVER have a hand in rule violations. If the rules official didn't catch it then we move on. PERIOD.
no
Reed makes a joke of the Green Jacket.
Palmers example was actually following the rules exactly.
If Reed move sand on his practice shot, is that not grounding the club in a bunker?
I don’t think it was a bunker.
@@michaelpace1075 Unfortunately, you are correct. The PGA likes to deem such areas as "waste bunkers" under local rule, as was the case in this tournament.
yep, and it was not mentioned.
It wasn't a bunker. It was a waste area.
knowing a rule and breaking the rule is not cheating. It is taking advantage of the rule. Not cheating
Breaking a rule is the definition of cheating. What are you even talking about lol
@@Boostyfourtee Is an intentional foul in the NBA cheating?
Reed's face screams the name "Patrick"
Yeah... what's your point? Spell it out for us.
@@DWilliams-ce8nb he is probably referring to the word 'trick" in Patrick
The rules are to be used. Not avoided. Genius.
The PGA allowing fans to interpret rules and call out players is the worst thing in sports.
Someone emailing in to report a rules violation is wild.
The rules of golf are you bill of rights as a player. Using those rights to your advantage is not cheating. No one is perfect. Mistakes get made. Mistakes are not cheating.
Reed nevers cheats. Just ask him, his attorneys, and Greg Norman.
Lolol
Funny though how most casual golfers that hate "cheating" pros fudge their own score cards...
Phil didn’t cheat.
How
Yes he did. You can’t hit a moving ball and should have DQ’d. Don’t forget about his $975,000 insider trading. Patrick Reed is a POS. I’ve never been on the Tiger wagon.
Woods also took and an illegal drop at the Masters
Those were great stories.🤣
Mcllroy took the same drop as Reed in a tournament without all the halabaloo
@@danbaumann6098 Reed's ball really did plug???? Where are you on the replay? Were you the fan who didn't see it bounce? When exactly did you personally get a look at it? Why didn't he wait for the official or at least ask his playing partner to have a look at it? He is obviously a cheating POS. I suppose you were standing at the camera angle he claimed would have shown he didn't move any sand after he lied about what was his ball to get a drop too.
@@danbaumann6098 Reed's ball 100% did not plug, no bouncing ball is plugging so far into GRASS that it's unplayable. The guy cheated for sure. Rory did too but let's not act like they BOTH didn't
@@zanierrules Agreed. Reed`s ball could not have been less plugged if it tried. LIV can have him..good riddance.
Whoever emailed about Lexi needs therapy. They clearly have nothing more in their life
she cheated,
In any competition, if you don't take advantage of rule that favor you means you didn't work/study hard enough.
If they let Tiger have an ottoman sized boulder moved under the loose impediment rule, don't blame Reed for moving an impacted ball. All of these pros bend the rules to their favor to their benefit. And, don't forget Arnold Palmer & his mulligan/redo!
Fans should not be allowed to chime in on rules or what they think is cheating
Yeah! No one should be allowed to have an opinion!
Why not? Because the golfer wouldn’t have been caught with a rules violation without the fan info? Because they would have gotten away with it otherwise?
Integrity: how you conduct yourself when no one is watching.
Ignorant people like to make their opinions known. It's like a fan right.
In fact, the commentator is guilty of this. He obviously doesn't understand the Rules of Golf, making numerous technical mistakes in describing what happened in in the Tiger Woods case. (BTW, Orlando Pope, PGA Rules Official, oversaw the entire situation and okayed the boulder being moved. In no way was this cheating. It was just intelligent golf.)
for the record, after that (and maybe some other similar call-in), NO call ins are allowed. If the situation isn't identified before the golfer signs their card, it's a non-issue. That is the problem with call-ins, the golfer is also penalized for signing an incorrect score. Not sure why Lexi wasn't DQ'd, so she caught a break there. No more call-ins from folks not at the golf course.
third party accounts of a fraction shouldn't be part of the rule placing a penalty on someone. what is needed is field and line judges watching every golfer in a tournament, like in "football". a judge has to actually see the rule break in action in order to penalize the player. it can be backed up on a replay camera, if they have one. what rule covers a golfer who while on the green uses his putter to "push" the ball by continuing contact with the putter and ball into the cup?
Well, heck with it. If Reed can get away with moving the ball. I can too. When a ball bounces off the cart path. No way it made a ball impediment. And the he moved 8 inches of sand. Give me a break.
There are countless videos of Reed improving his life with 'practice swings'. I remember one where the ball was deep in the rough and after he took a few practice swings it was sitting on top of the grass almost perfectly.
Phil gained an advantage? Nah, he gained +2 strokes
Thanks Mr Gabbles ⛳️
A ball can roll forever on a pro tour course
PGA has some out of date rules! Lets people move a huge bolder for certain player!
USGA governs the Rules of Golf. The PGA controls conduct of play, including course set-up and local rules.
The reed sand thing could be accidental if you saw from a different angle but we can’t know
The Lexi Thompson incident was complete BS.
every one who has ever played golf know that what lexi did is cheating. she knew exactly where her ball was supposed to go and tried to get away with it. someone of this prestige doesn't make "mistakes like that".
definitely, she put the ball on low side to take out the break going left to right,
Patrick Reed is infamous for improving his lie with 'practice' swings. There is video of his ball deep in the rough and after a few practice swings, his ball was setting perfectly on top of the grass.
The mickelson putt is following the rules just as much as waiting for the ball to stop. If the result is unacceptable then change the penalty. Its no different from dropping out of water, its just more expensive
John Daly did something similar at the US Open in the late 90s if I recall correctly...but we expect that kind of behavior from him when he is having a bad round.
Can’t cheat? Don’t play! 🤣
The Golden Rule applies to everything!
I disagree with the putting ball marker one. You can easily inadvertently misplace the ball and it shouldn’t cost anything.
I'll just remark my ball 1 inch at a time lol not a good rule to get rid of
No Vijay?
While I can appreciate various opinions over what someone’s “intent” was, the facts are what they are: Using the rules in a manner which helps you isn’t cheating - that isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact. In the first example Mickelson new what the penalty was for what he was doing and simply decided it was worth it. Again, you can question whether or not THAT OUGHT to be the rule, but IT IS the rule and therefore it’s not cheating. It’s just using the rules to your advantage.
I didn't think you were allowed to touch the sand in a bunker, even on practice swings.
Correct. But under this tournament's local rules, the unmaintained sandy areas outside the fairways were deemed "waste bunkers". Rule 12 does not apply to such areas.
If im not mistaken there are some rewards for people who are “whistle blowers” like if they call in someone breaking a rule and it turns out to be true, i can’t remember the whole story but I know there was something like that at one time at least
The only cheater in the video was Reed, Tiger’s was questionable but within the rules. Palmer never had to cheat, Venturi as always jealous of him and a sore loser.
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Mickelson was 4 over par. It wasn't like he was going to win the tournament.
A ball can roll forever on a pro course. Debatable whether or not it helped but keeping the ball on the green instead of it potentially rolling 50 feet or more or possibly into a trap or water could keep your placement. Placement in a pro tour is worth thousands of dollars.
i wouldnt trust reed in a car with my elderly grandmother
nor would I with 2 dollar in my car,
This whole video could be just about Patrick Reed.
Lexi is not a cheater at all. Patrick cheats non stop
Simple: It does not matter if you broke a rule intentionally or by accident, the rule stands.
Thanks for watching ⛳️
Two strokes is actually a huge penalty it can be the difference between 1st and 10th place
the first one is not cheating. smart players do that in every sport and game, like calling a timeout at a good time
Reed can deny that he cheats all he wants. Serial killers on death row maintain their innocence, that doesn’t make them not guilty either.
Reputation doesn't matter, only winning matters.
I can’t understand people who cheat and still manage to brag about their score. It’s really a funny thing to do. Trying to impress with lies. My bil plays golf every week and cheats at every hole, be it improving every lie, taking mulligans, moving ball from behind all obstacles or using the hand wedge to get out of sand traps. Still he manages to show off his score card and brags about how many birdies he’s made. Gives a hole by hole account of his best shots and tells of how he beat his other brother. They both equally cheat by the way, so in that sense it’s a fair game, as strange as that sounds. I can no longer play with them. It disheartens me.
I know a guy who plays golf with his Saturday foursome and one guy, who he was playing against, hit a long second shot into a short par 5, with the green severely elevated (blind shot). The other 2 golfers congratulated him on most likely landing it close to the stick. The “cheater guy” drove up to the green way ahead of everyone and threw the guys shot in the bunker and placed his own ball where the other was…2 ft from the cup. When the rest of the group got to the green, cheater guy said “you’re in the bunker and I’m here.” Everyone knew what must have happened, but no one said anything. smh.
I would have done the same as phil take the penalty move on to the next hole and forget about that disaster.
Tiger's wasn't even close to cheating.
"Taking advantage of the rules to get out of a tight spot.." Is not cheating.. its playing by the rule whether you agree with the rule or not.
The rules of golf are objective, not subjective. Calling someone a “cheater” in golf 99% of the time, is just a bunch of frat boys who can’t break 90, complaining
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Taking advantage of the rules isn't cheating.
It's a two shot penalty not a disqualification. No rule that says DQ if you intentionally break a rule, but if that's a rule than sure.
Otherwise the penalty for the rule is what it is, not what people deemed fit.
appreciate you tuning in Taylor ⛳️
Look, it’s a mute point on mickelson. If the rules say it’s a disqualification then that is what it is but it isn’t a disqualification. Mickelson smartly used the rules to his advantage. He broke the rule and paid the penalty that was in place for that infringement.
I don't think he even made the cut, so who cares? He played like trash at that tournament.
Woods was caught more than once at cheating. Of course they won't bring those up.
No the rules say take a 2 shot Penalty for hitting a moving ball not disqualification. Just play the game and know the rules, don’t have a cow about it.
Tiger woods taking advantage of the rules is not cheating.
He wasn’t even taking advantage of them, anyone could have done that, and I’m sure there would have been a ton of fans who were willing to help any pro out there who needed the rock moved just so they could be involved. The fact that it was tiger made no difference.
I hope some of those golfers on here that were wrongfully accused of being cheaters sue the maker of this video.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with taking advantage of rules to improve your situation.
Imagine how sick in the head you have to be to cheat at sports
Man, what defamatory statements! Whoever you are, you are either very brave or very foolish. The smart money is on foolish.
they all know exactly what they're doing.
Yes don’t make golf even more annoying
Reeds footprint thing was NOT cheating. Geez, go back and look at that sand, it's horrible. It looks like he's playing golf on the beach!
building sand castle lol,
WHY would Mickelson have to be disqualified ? Nonsense...this is like you get shot free of penalty (hitting drain on fairway) and drop the ball in the rough or play it from the drain...what are you even talking about?
But if those things were cheating i am wondering if thats video is cheating
And even Tiger DIDN'T cheat because it was moveable...
A violation of the rules, intentional or not, is still a violation of the rules. Any intentional violation of the rules is, in my opinion, cheating.
Why is Tiger in here? It's literally allowed by the rules 🤦🏻♂️
No pics of Blalock. Calling Phil a cheater was not at all fair. None of these people improved his or her lie. Tiger let the rules help him
Reed did it again last weekend.
Who wouldn’t help tiger move a Boulder
If I was a spectator I'd have sat on the boulder till he lined up his next shot.
Mickelson knew the rules. Not Cheating. Woods got clarification...not cheating (but really a boulder?) Reid got clarification of plugging. not cheating. unfortunate Mistake.
He disrespected Shinnecock
Not bad
How is he still playing golf?
That penalty on Lexi was ludicrous. She did what everyone does on every first putt. Every one involved in penalizing her must not officiate again!
Not everyone and certainly not me.
However, I don't like the way in which the penalty was flagged. It's a situation where I'd say call it as soon as you see it, so that the player can correct himself, or don't call it at all. Calling it in from home makes my skin crawl.
Nope. What she did was obvious even from a distance.
For Reed's imbedded ball, the video sgows that his bakl bounced after landing, so was not imbedded. He's a clear cheater
If you're gonna say Phil Mickelson "cheated" then you're gonna have to say that everyone who took a penalty to take a drop "cheated", lol.
... where's Judge Smails?.....
Hmmm no Gary player on this list
I like how the thumbnail shows Patrick Reed but the video is about Mickelson.
Using the rules is cheating? Like what
Eventhough I am not a Mickelson fan. He knows the rules.
Well he didnt last week and was corrected by the officials.
Knowing the rules, is not cheating.
Well this is misleading, I didn’t know knowing the rules to help you is cheating, what, I’m supposed to penalize myself by barring myself from using a perfectly legal action?
Phil Mickelson has never cheated
The AI voice kills this video for me…
Is Reed the chubby kid still on tour?
Reed is a CHEATER NOT ONCE BUT MANY TIMES. All his fellow players know it and call him a cheater.
Hardly any of this is actually cheating
So tiger woods followed exactly the rules, and Phil broke a rule and was awarded the appropriate penalty. I just got caught CLICKBAITING
Heh, heh! 🤭🤫😋
I cheat sometimes when playing alone. Don't post the scores.