To be known as a cheater is a greater shame than missing the cut. Once labeled, it never goes away. In fact, it's a person of high character who calls a penalty on himself.
I wish the PGA & LIV (as part of their negotiations) would have decided to throw PR out for good! He’s bad for business! No DP either, as they are affiliated with the others. He can play on the Asian or Sunshine tour. Check in on him once a year.
My brother is a golf fanatic . He volunteered to drive players from their hotels to the course in Montreal . Vijay was the passenger . My brother told him that he was his number one fan . Vijay replied “just drive “ ….😮
The worse one from Reed I think was the one he picked up before the official got there. He pushed an indentation in the thick stuff. Said the ball did it. That is ridiculous. No way it made a ball mark after bouncing off the cart path.
just one correction here: at about 4:35 the narrator says "...according to an unwritten code of ethics"...... - but actually the code is entirely written down. Every rule, and most of its appropriate interpretations can be looked up with great specificity. This is one of the beauties of this Ancient game.
Reed should be banned from playing professional competition golf ANYWHERE and FOREVER!! His relentless, remorseless cheating is disgusting and he should never be permitted to get away with it. Likewise, Vijay Singh and Chella Choi should also receive lifetime bans. Choi was shown the video which proved her cheating and she still denied it?!!!! Lifetime ban, right there!! For a golfer to be able to play golf professionally is a privilege - once that privilege is abused, they should lose that status, permanently.
You forgot to add Tiger Woods. Signed an incorrect score card and then the PGA let him off the hook. Having a crowd move a major and huge rock to get a clear shot. There are others.
Tiger Woods illegal drop at the Masters, signing his scorecard, should have been DQ’d but wasn’t. As for Reeds vid clip here, picking up his ball in the long rough, McIlroy did the exact same thing.
Yeah, and Tiger copped a penalty for that. The reason he wasn't DQ for the scorecard was because he was not informed of the penalty till the next morning and as such could not have known about it. That vid of Reed in the long rough was when his ball had hit the cart path and then went into the rough, so the ball wouldn't get plugged like he claimed. With McIlroy his ball went straight into the rough from his drive, so that would get plugged.
I'm fairly sure that significant context is missing regarding Vijay. His failure to make the cut, his fudging of score and the ensuing scandal was the incentive behind bis run of Top-10s. The impression given here is the other way around.
Reed always takes the most advantageous position then tries to figure out whether it conforms to the rule. He hit a shot into deep rough and rushed up to it to play it as an embedded lie but on TV you could see it bounce. Not possible for a ball to embed in tall grass after a bounce.
You even left out one more instance with Reed where he would tamp down the rough as though he was "resting" his club because he was about to swing. The ting is, he did it like 3-4 times .
She accepted it by not withdrawing and by signing her card with the 4-stroke penalty. Just because it was imposed doesn't mean she didn't have to accept the penalty. In contrast, the Asian lady who withdrew and didn't sign her card did not accept her penalty.
Its amazing how mentally immature some people are lol your given proof that your interpretation was wrong and even though your trying to walk some moral golf high ground you dont have the morality to even consider another view because you don't like someone? Hypocrites through and through
Someone better clearly define and explain the difference between cheating and breaking the rules. I think much of it has to do with intent, which is very difficult to prove. Having said that Tiger once hit his ball in the woods and found it. In his attempt to move a loose impediment the ball settled downward about an eighth of an inch and he immediately stopped his movement of the loose impediment, a twig. He knew the ball moved because it stopped him from moving the twig. He did not call an official over and no other player was near him or saw it. But the zoomed in camera did on replay. The fact that his ball moved was a rules violation. The fact that he knew it and did not announce it, take a penalty, or call a rules official over, meant that he cheated. The fact that the rules committee reviewed the video and deemed it not a penalty when clearly it was indicates potential bias toward their superstar who has made the tour billions. Justified?Perhaps. But cheating is cheating regardless of who it is. Do I care? Not really, I’m a golf fan who likes to watch professional golf. Who are we to judge the honesty of professional golfers, people we don’t know personally? On the whole the pros are about as honest a group as you’ll find in society, much more so than elected politicians who directly affect our lives.
I can wrap my head around the lucrative nature of golf. There’s endorsements, high value purses to be won, and so on. If you’re going to skirt the rules as they are though why not play with the rest of us who only play for the pleasure of playing the game? At least there’s no cameras and nobody’s going to care if you make a drop in the wrong place or move your ball somewhere it’s not supposed to be.
In my opinion the smoothing of the sand in the waste bunker was so blatant and obvious then his asinine excuse marked him as a cheater. Now whenever he plays he is so under the microscope. Pretty sad and pathetic actions.
so you can have a brown lose leaf like in autumn, which lies on the grass or so, that is a loose impediment. but you can also have a leaf grow from the dirt, many plants in the bush or under trees are like that, adjecent to rough etc. you can remove that brown autumn leaf any time. but you cannot push or pluck that grown leaf down or out. etc.
One needs to be sure there was premeditated cheating or a misunderstanding. Most professional golfers would never go out of their way to cheat on purpose. Too many people watching. This report is not that great as there is conjecture added with no proof.
This video is incomplete without mentioning Phil Mickelson... He chases down a rolling putt and hits it back towards the cup. One of the biggest cheats.
it was an exploit, not a cheat. cheating also implies trying to hide your attempts from the referees or prying audience. exploits happen openly. Mickelson did it in front of everybody. it was not honorable, but nuance still exists. exploits and cheats, two different things. (not a Mickelson fan btw).
"Cheating" or "Breaking the rules"???????? I think one implies actually attempting to get ahead by breaking the rules and one could be considered unwittingly (spellcheck) not following the rules. A lot of times it has to be an agreement of the players on the course because, believe it or not, rules are left to interpretation. Cheater is a strong word.
I cheat the rules book but not those I golf with. Golf is hard so being in my 60s I fluff the ball and tell everyone I do because I'm here to have fun. I do not take relief from anything without penalty. Nor do I foot wedge or move it away from bad lies next to trees or sand. Just a roll over once and awhile. Think that maybe seniors need a break.
Incorrect, it's official name is actually the British open championship, although it is commonly known as the Open championship, much like the Masters, which is actually the United States masters championship.
Patrick Reed is a disgrace to professional golf. But... he belongs to the right tour. Liv tour is a place for the outcasts and washed up players and most of all the greedy. Hopefully Reed will never play again on the PROFESSIONAL tour.
The inch wormer ball marker woman knew exactly what she was doing. Lexi may have been inadvertent or lax but that Asian woman probably does that on a regular basis
Yes, I seen that also. It was actually legal or ok, but it was real close. The ball can rock just a little bit as long as it goes back where it was. And that probably was about the little as allowed. IMO anyway and yes i played golf until my shoulders and back gave out.
Those were only SOME of Reed’s misdeeds. He’s a punk! But the worst instance of cheating I’ve ever seen was Phil’s intentional moving putt. That was disgraceful, and it was largely dismissed by most golf fans. To me, that one was unforgivable.
@@dh3279 yes it does, it was a calculated breaking of rules to take the penalty. that is an exploit. it is not honorable or sportsmanlike, but it is not worse than a cheat. that is only your interpretation, which is not the norm.
@@bobbys4327 Two Hall of Fame Swings for sure! Freddy vs Vijay is like comparing the swings of Ken Griffey Jr. & Barry Bonds. Both different but arguably as sweet as there ever was. Art in sports abounds!!! ✌️ Also 2 of my all-time favorite golfers.⛳
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You forgot Vijay's drug trouble...claimed it was ground deer horn.
Don’t know how reed got away so many times, a golfer who knows no sportsmanship, absolute disgrace.
To be known as a cheater is a greater shame than missing the cut. Once labeled, it never goes away. In fact, it's a person of high character who calls a penalty on himself.
That's just one of the reasons I love golf. Your character is at play with every single shot. ⛳️
Are you talking about the serial offender mcilroy?
Ben Hogan said after being praised for calling a penalty on himself " you might as well praise a man for not robbing a bank !"
@@tomwilliam8607 can you explain please?
I wish the PGA & LIV (as part of their negotiations) would have decided to throw PR out for good! He’s bad for business! No DP either, as they are affiliated with the others. He can play on the Asian or Sunshine tour. Check in on him once a year.
My brother is a golf fanatic . He volunteered to drive players from their hotels to the course in Montreal . Vijay was the passenger . My brother told him that he was his number one fan . Vijay replied “just drive “ ….😮
I would have pulled over and told him to get out. Something more important just came up….
LOL
The worse one from Reed I think was the one he picked up before the official got there. He pushed an indentation in the thick stuff. Said the ball did it. That is ridiculous. No way it made a ball mark after bouncing off the cart path.
He got in trouble at university for stealing peoples wallets. Look it up
just one correction here: at about 4:35 the narrator says "...according to an unwritten code of ethics"...... - but actually the code is entirely written down. Every rule, and most of its appropriate interpretations can be looked up with great specificity. This is one of the beauties of this Ancient game.
hmmm... what's worse marking a ball a fraction of an inch off spot or not paying your caddie ?
Reed should be banned from playing professional competition golf ANYWHERE and FOREVER!! His relentless, remorseless cheating is disgusting and he should never be permitted to get away with it. Likewise, Vijay Singh and Chella Choi should also receive lifetime bans. Choi was shown the video which proved her cheating and she still denied it?!!!! Lifetime ban, right there!! For a golfer to be able to play golf professionally is a privilege - once that privilege is abused, they should lose that status, permanently.
This guy is a cheat, when he scraped the sand 2/3 times, he is straight out a cheat.
Not to mention, a total azzhole!!
Tell lie enough & it becomes truth. Many people are like this, tell a lie enough and seems like a cult will follow.
We're going to pay your school loans and we're not taking away your gas stoves or lawnmowers.
@@ScratchGlass9 "The Democrats stole the election"
what happen to the picture shown ?
"I wasn't watching you..." "I saw you do it..." That has to be the dumbest couple of statements I've seen.
Not at all. Watson was just watching, not looking for an infraction, until it jumped out and bit him. I think yours is dumber dude.
You forgot to add Tiger Woods. Signed an incorrect score card and then the PGA let him off the hook. Having a crowd move a major and huge rock to get a clear shot. There are others.
I was screaming at the television when those people were moving that rock.
Woods earned that help. He's a hero in golf.
@@ricf9592 Earned has nothing to do with it
It was allowed in the rules. It does not say no one can help. The rules official was there and gave it the OK.
@@ricf9592so if you’re a hero in golf, you get to cheat?
Tiger Woods illegal drop at the Masters, signing his scorecard, should have been DQ’d but wasn’t. As for Reeds vid clip here, picking up his ball in the long rough, McIlroy did the exact same thing.
Yeah, and Tiger copped a penalty for that. The reason he wasn't DQ for the scorecard was because he was not informed of the penalty till the next morning and as such could not have known about it. That vid of Reed in the long rough was when his ball had hit the cart path and then went into the rough, so the ball wouldn't get plugged like he claimed. With McIlroy his ball went straight into the rough from his drive, so that would get plugged.
Does clickbait is cheating?
Read your comment and stopped watching. Thank you
I should have known better the second I saw Vito Corleone 😂
Focus on your grammar first😂🤦🏻♂️🤡
1, You forgot Vijay and his deer horn incident. 2 Player- was it a move of the leaf or a pressing down of the leaf?.
I'm fairly sure that significant context is missing regarding Vijay. His failure to make the cut, his fudging of score and the ensuing scandal was the incentive behind bis run of Top-10s. The impression given here is the other way around.
Arm chair refereeing should not be allowed. I can’t believe they accepted phone calls from idiot viewers.
Reed always takes the most advantageous position then tries to figure out whether it conforms to the rule. He hit a shot into deep rough and rushed up to it to play it as an embedded lie but on TV you could see it bounce. Not possible for a ball to embed in tall grass after a bounce.
You even left out one more instance with Reed where he would tamp down the rough as though he was "resting" his club because he was about to swing. The ting is, he did it like 3-4 times .
Cheating is sometimes costly but yet sometimes profitable
Guys who keep score fix their lay in rough and even fairway for better lay/better possible shot
Happens all the time Darren ⛳️
It's not a Rule 'infringement'; it is an infraction. Lexi did not 'accept' the penalty; it was imposed on her.
She accepted it by not withdrawing and by signing her card with the 4-stroke penalty. Just because it was imposed doesn't mean she didn't have to accept the penalty. In contrast, the Asian lady who withdrew and didn't sign her card did not accept her penalty.
And Lexi should not have either. Such nonsense
Its amazing how mentally immature some people are lol your given proof that your interpretation was wrong and even though your trying to walk some moral golf high ground you dont have the morality to even consider another view because you don't like someone? Hypocrites through and through
I'm amazed that Reed is still on tour !!! Does pga needs players so much?
He plays on the LIV tour...thankfully.
Someone better clearly define and explain the difference between cheating and breaking the rules. I think much of it has to do with intent, which is very difficult to prove.
Having said that Tiger once hit his ball in the woods and found it. In his attempt to move a loose impediment the ball settled downward about an eighth of an inch and he immediately stopped his movement of the loose impediment, a twig. He knew the ball moved because it stopped him from moving the twig. He did not call an official over and no other player was near him or saw it. But the zoomed in camera did on replay.
The fact that his ball moved was a rules violation. The fact that he knew it and did not announce it, take a penalty, or call a rules official over, meant that he cheated. The fact that the rules committee reviewed the video and deemed it not a penalty when clearly it was indicates potential bias toward their superstar who has made the tour billions. Justified?Perhaps. But cheating is cheating regardless of who it is. Do I care? Not really, I’m a golf fan who likes to watch professional golf.
Who are we to judge the honesty of professional golfers, people we don’t know personally? On the whole the pros are about as honest a group as you’ll find in society, much more so than elected politicians who directly affect our lives.
Spot on.
I can wrap my head around the lucrative nature of golf. There’s endorsements, high value purses to be won, and so on. If you’re going to skirt the rules as they are though why not play with the rest of us who only play for the pleasure of playing the game? At least there’s no cameras and nobody’s going to care if you make a drop in the wrong place or move your ball somewhere it’s not supposed to be.
In my opinion the smoothing of the sand in the waste bunker was so blatant and obvious then his asinine excuse marked him as a cheater. Now whenever he plays he is so under the microscope. Pretty sad and pathetic actions.
I like and play butgolf has some of dumbest rules. It would take me awhile to list all the dumb ones here.
Finally the computer is put to a worthy use in posting this clip
Didn't Vijay Singh also get caught using a banned substance, deer antler spray, a growth hormone?
Reed seems like a huge narcissist
I wouldnt trust the guy to water my plants...
Sorry I don't understand the rule, but how is pushing a leaf down a rule violation. How was the leaf *not* a loose impediment that can be moved?
According to Tom Watson, it was fixed or growing, not loose.
so you can have a brown lose leaf like in autumn, which lies on the grass or so, that is a loose impediment. but you can also have a leaf grow from the dirt, many plants in the bush or under trees are like that, adjecent to rough etc. you can remove that brown autumn leaf any time. but you cannot push or pluck that grown leaf down or out. etc.
Watson's a bad loser.
Player was known for tamping down behind the ball at address.
This is permitted off the tee!
@@nicholasdemetriades9154only off the tee
Is a leaf not a loose impediment and thus can be removed?
Is it a leaf of grass or a leaf off a tree? If it's off a tree it's a lose impediment. If grass it is .
Watson said the leaf was imbedded in the mud.
Golf should use the tool in pool billiards when cleaning the ball so as to replace the ball to its original position accurately.
I thinks Vijay's story is unbelievable. What guts it took to get where he did . That one shot thing was nothing at all
If I could of any change in equipment I wouldn't holed back this game is so hard
Ban Patrick Reed forever!!!!
I wanted the story about the drawings in the iron face grooves 🤬
So, one guy gets a 20 year ban and Reed gets nothing. Sounds fair.
Club pro on Borneo? It was in Brunei. A fabulous rich country and he was paid a ton of money. It was not a punishment; it was a well paid vacation.
One needs to be sure there was premeditated cheating or a misunderstanding. Most professional golfers would never go out of their way to cheat on purpose. Too many people watching. This report is not that great as there is conjecture added with no proof.
Show me a golfer who has never cheated and I'll show you a man who has never whacked his pudd.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right. Unless the man is off upstairs. 😂
There are plenty, just because you keep cheating doesn't mean everyone does. I've never cheated at any sport. Period, what's the point?
Best analogy! And even accidentally
This video is incomplete without mentioning Phil Mickelson... He chases down a rolling putt and hits it back towards the cup. One of the biggest cheats.
What score did he take? Without this info, which I suspect you don’t know, he didn’t cheat. Idiot
it was an exploit, not a cheat. cheating also implies trying to hide your attempts from the referees or prying audience. exploits happen openly. Mickelson did it in front of everybody. it was not honorable, but nuance still exists. exploits and cheats, two different things. (not a Mickelson fan btw).
@@104thironmike4if it went against the rules of golf it was cheating and Phil did it willfully. He should of been disqualified.
Wasn't cheating, he took the penalty.
Vijay is also a scratch golfer left handed, which is a huge feat.
"Cheating" or "Breaking the rules"???????? I think one implies actually attempting to get ahead by breaking the rules and one could be considered unwittingly (spellcheck) not following the rules. A lot of times it has to be an agreement of the players on the course because, believe it or not, rules are left to interpretation. Cheater is a strong word.
Not another cheat in golf
Where are the Tiger Woods cheating videos?
Reed is ruining the great game of golf.
Thanks
Reed’s not the only person ruining golf!
No, Tiger started that 28 years ago.
Tiger, 28 yrs ago ?
You need to add tiger to this list
Reed should be banned, period
If Patrick Reed should be banned Tiger W should be thrice over
@@Gatvol59 all cheats, Read cheats regularly, even when he was in college
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Penalties are too soft. Should lose a finger....televised. Man On Fire style. Will also improve ratings.
I hope you have proof positive as you could get sued for running hit pieces on the Liv golfers for the failing PGA Tour.
The rules are too complicated and this builds in controversy. A sensible rule would be: If a player cannot recover his ball, then it is lost.
I cheat the rules book but not those I golf with. Golf is hard so being in my 60s I fluff the ball and tell everyone I do because I'm here to have fun. I do not take relief from anything without penalty. Nor do I foot wedge or move it away from bad lies next to trees or sand. Just a roll over once and awhile. Think that maybe seniors need a break.
And that's why he plays on the LIV tour🤣
I actually know the pro he was playing with when he altered his score card to make the cut
No such tournament called the British Open, its the Open end off
No, it's called the British Open by everyone who's not British. Which is the overwhelming majority of the world population.
Incorrect, it's official name is actually the British open championship, although it is commonly known as the Open championship, much like the Masters, which is actually the United States masters championship.
If you watch TV clips from the 1980’s the Brits are definitely calling it the British Open
Choi is no cheater. She just made a mistake.
Nah. She put her mark in the wrong place and then put her ball in the wrong place.
Not even a mistake. A TV id10t called it in. Crazy!!!!!
I hate cheaters!
“i wasn’t watching but i saw you do it?..” anything to make your video longer, right?
reed in sand, the embedded bouncing ball, the tree shown here and who knows how many other times.
Did a Patrick Teed and touched the sand on the back swing 😂
Patrick Reed is a disgrace to professional golf.
But... he belongs to the right tour.
Liv tour is a place for the outcasts and washed up players and most of all the greedy.
Hopefully Reed will never play again on the PROFESSIONAL tour.
What's Sean Bean doing in this video?
Negative rating due to using a photo of tiger while taking about golf cheats. You should be ashamed of your self!
I prefer square grooves too
Phil didn’t cheat. He manipulated the rules. It’s pathetic, but not cheating.
Reed read red read very very complex. Made an honest mistake. That's my tree 🎄 right next to...
The inch wormer ball marker woman knew exactly what she was doing. Lexi may have been inadvertent or lax but that Asian woman probably does that on a regular basis
Get to the point! Singh wasn't caught cheating again so the history lesson is unnecessary.
This is just a reupload
WOW!!! The next time i fluff up my ball for a better shot...I won't feel so bad.
Played with a “friend”/that did this on every shot even when called on it. Finally just quit playing with him so we could remain social.
@@jimarcher5255 Understood and agree with ya
@@jimarcher5255 did you guys play for money or anything?
In the case of Reed cheating of claiminig
Cheating is just called Reeding now.
What about Clark at the US Open , so obvious the ball moved.
Yes, I seen that also. It was actually legal or ok, but it was real close. The ball can rock just a little bit as long as it goes back where it was. And that probably was about the little as allowed. IMO anyway and yes i played golf until my shoulders and back gave out.
Donald Trump kicks the ball so much, his caddies call him "Pele."
Band the turkey
Never band a turkey. Spatchcock a turkey to ensure even cooking and browning since the entirety of the skin and meat are exposed to even heat.
I like to cheat
a leaf is a loose impediment
Watson said it was imbedded in the mud...so, who knows. Player has a reputation for cheating, generally.
I’m sorry, but I love Patrick Reed. If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying. 😆
Another person without integrity.
@@mikeellis2025 I also love the Patriots, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa.
Known as a trumper. To cheat or not to cheat, that is not the question, as it is a certainty if a trumper.
You mean a Biden
Tom Watson is such a baby….
Do you mean when caught in the act, they play victim??????????? And in protest of their cheating, they leave with shame???????
He’s a cheater now, before, and will always be one. Everyone of his fellow competitors know it.
Reed is a CHEATER. ALWAYS HAS BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE. HE WILL NEVER CHANGE. HES A LIAR AND A CHEAT!
P.Reed is no longer an issue as he plays Social Golf now.
Those were only SOME of Reed’s misdeeds. He’s a punk! But the worst instance of cheating I’ve ever seen was Phil’s intentional moving putt. That was disgraceful, and it was largely dismissed by most golf fans. To me, that one was unforgivable.
That was about Math. The penalty for M's ball going down the hill would have been worse than the penalty shots added for the rule break.
@@ricf9592 Agreed, but it doesn’t justify it.
@@dh3279 yes it does, it was a calculated breaking of rules to take the penalty. that is an exploit. it is not honorable or sportsmanlike, but it is not worse than a cheat. that is only your interpretation, which is not the norm.
BS
@@55rhill Who is this, Patrick or Phil?
She plays like Patrick Reid out of the sand
Always been a cheat and a liar.
The worst cheater was Tiger Woods imho. Never called out because of his “ethnicity”.
This video is BS.
Yes it is.
Gary player has always cheated ..just like he did in the British open one year
Once a cheater always a cheater 👎🏼
Vijay may have been blessed with the most beautiful golf swing the world has ever seen. 🏌️♀️
nope, Freddy!
@@bobbys4327 Two Hall of Fame Swings for sure! Freddy vs Vijay is like comparing the swings of Ken Griffey Jr. & Barry Bonds. Both different but arguably as sweet as there ever was. Art in sports abounds!!! ✌️ Also 2 of my all-time favorite golfers.⛳