Pro Game Designer PLAYS My Game (I was scared)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2021
- I asked the creator of Swords and Sandals to give feedback on my game Blood And Mead.
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I just updated my steam trailer (huge visual updates!)
store.steampowered.com/app/1081830/Blood_And_Mead/
Want to take part in future play tests?
www.bloodandmead.com/playtest
(that wishlist link gives me a 404 error mate, just fyi).
This project looks promising.
I can't wait to try it out.
Will be interesting what kind of additions it gets, if it has regular patches.
If you care about any more feedback...
The slimes immediately confused me. They seem very misplaced and lack interesting animation (and AI, for the smaller ones). Hopefully they're just placeholders. A creature that is matching with the (Norse) theme would add a lot to the atmosphere and feel of the game. The slimes just seem lazy...like an asset flip.
Regarding positives, all the little added details are great. They often make the difference between a really good and a just mediocre game.
Really solid work overall. If I were in your shoes I'd just be worried whether the gameplay loop has enough attraction for a big audience. It seems a bit too generic/worn out for my own tastes.
You have those stair case popping in and out of existence around 18:58 …. I would suggest making it more flashy or magical maybe with some fitting sound … it simply looks a bit flat and illogical to me as it is now.
For example you could have some sort of magical clouds fading in and out of existence while inside those your staircases appear. What would be important though is having the timing of the fading in somewhat flexible in regards to when your stairs are supposed to appear so it isn’t to predictable. I think it would also make it more interesting that way as things appear that aren’t staircases and are a bit of a distraction making it a bit harder.
John , was a great privilege to have this game test session with you. Had a blast, even just looking at it now the game has so much appeal - looking forward to checking out the next build, if this blasted ever lockdown ever ends! Also, I was not aware of just how much I say "Ahh, yeah" or "Ahh, okay" all the time. Must have been hundreds in this video !
:D
I've been playing swords and sandals for over 15 years, my favorite version is Swords and Sandals 2. You've inspired me to start developing my own games. I'm now in school for software engineering, and I've spent a lot of my spare time learning programming so I can develop my own engine and games!
I came in expecting the "Pro game designer" to give out some shit and mainstream opinions, but I loved how you actually gave out such good observations and pure upgrades to systems that already exist. You didn't look at the developed things as something to be remade, but rather you gave tips on how to improve them, with some neat tricks that aren't that hard to incorporate. Most of the tips are just generally good tips for anyone creating any type of game, kudos
@@TifkPlays legit one of my fave games ever, played so many different character builds
Omg the old swords and sandals are the best! Shoutout from a super fan!
I really love how you put your game on the chopping block and essentially a project that is very close to your heart. I'm only halfway through the vid, but I can already tell how important this is to you and I have nothing but respect for teachers who are still willing to learn. Hat's off to you, Sir!
Are you an Indian?
3:38 Oliver: “What happens if you push the boxes over the edge?”
John: “Don’t…Don’t…Don’t!”
When the boxes fall off the edge of the viewable screen it causes a divide-by-zero calculation, in turn causing a byte overflow. A zero-day bug in Windows causes the dropped bits to save to a particular block of L1 CPU cache. The dropped bits happen to form a jump instruction paired with a legitimate memory address to the block of L1 cache right before it. So instead of crashing the game, the program jumps to the new address. It happens to be a NOOP statement so it runs and proceeds to the other memory address, creating an infinite loop.
The infinite loop causes a nano-scale electromagnetic field inside the CPU. Now, the new Intel Alder Lake CPU uses a newly-developed composite silicon material for its L1 cache. The particular crystal lattice structure of the material was accidentally engineered to match the fundamental spacetime geometry of our universe. The nano EMF field then resonated with this structure, opening a tiny quantum vortex. The vortex grew as it connected and resonated with more of the composite material. The material acted as an amplifier. The quantum vortex absorbed data from its surroundings. No longer bound by the limitations of computer electronics, it pulled data from the nearby fabric of spacetime itself. It found the concept “MEAD” over and over again from the local vicinity. In a process we mortal humans are too limited to understand, this vortex used this information to open a portal and connect to another plane/reality/dimension, and pull back data/energy/matter from it. Within seconds the vortex expanded to the size of the motherboard and now real fresh, stout Mead poured out of all ports, grates and openings! It flowed straight from the portal that the quantum vortex opened.
At first John thought and said, “Oh $*%!, my computer is ruined!” But he then realized he had a bigger problem on his hands, as about a gallon of mead per second gushed out of his computer’s orifices. His office floor quickly filled with the pungent liquid.
He evacuated what he could and called the fire department and explained there was a “big leak”. They sent out a pump unit and portable tank to vacate the liquid. Luckily they saved his house from completely flooding! But they quickly realized the profundity of the situation and that it needed “higher involvement”. The pressure was so high at the source of the vortex that they could only get as close as a foot to it. And it had no apparent source that could be cut off. At the rate it was gushing it would fill an Olympic-sized swimming pool every week!
They contacted Emergency Management in the Australian Department of Home Affairs. The Feds took over the scene, claimed Compulsory Acquisition on the house, and brought in more equipment. They called in the team that handled the wastewater from the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan since the amount produced per day was on a similar scale. Even higher up the chain of command CERN got involved to investigate and research the QPI “Quantum Phenomenon Incident”. Not even John or the Australian government knew about their involvement.
After months scientists and engineers found no way to turn off the Mead spigot. They eventually removed the now-rusted computer parts, but the portal was self-sustaining. So they initiated construction of an underground pipe to secretly carry the liquid to a local chemical plant several miles away. They set up a clandestine project to separate the Mead into water, ethanol fuel and fertilizer. They allowed John and the local government to keep proceeds from the sale of it in exchange for their help in keeping the situation secret.
Thus an uncaught user interaction in a game led to one of the most profound technological accidents in history. And Ulric got his mead, albeit in a very meta and roundabout way🍺
i chose not to read that. but i still will leave the boxes :V
Did chatgpt write this?
Really nice to have his feedbacks. And the game looks nice, can't wait to try it too
I like the quality and look of this game, it's just that it feels like there is no unique twist to it that sets it apart. It just kind of reminds me of old-school flash games I played in the early 2000's. I'll be curious to see how the sales go. Maybe a well executed game that feels a bit generic will still do well. Maybe that's enough. And having this channel definitely helps.
Truly generic and relatively easy to make on the coding side
@I ain't no millionaires son! That's not the point, realistically there is not a single soul that would buy this game, even if it was priced at 4.99$, cause it does what most free flash games do, and it doesn't add anything to it. The thing is, this type of game can be made from scratch within a week or two by an experienced coder/artist, hence why there is so many of them. A game this simple, needs to excel at something, like art, music, atmosphere, polished movement, combat feel, level design for it to be sucesful. You have Hollow knight, shovel knight, rogue legacy, and many others that excel at any of these things, but are basic platformers.
I don't want to be mean, but this game is poor to mediocre at most of these, If it was a f2p mobile game, yeah, it probably would get some traction, but as a PC/console game, it just feels like a project a student would make in a few weeks to just get it over with.
the biggest problem for me is the graphics it looks like a cool math game
@I ain't no millionaires son! It spunds like you're the one that's salty. I think he makes a great point. Maybe he's still trying to solidify his fundamentals here, but players don't care. I'm not a designer myself so I couldn't say what he's supposed to add but as a player I really don't see why I'd rather play this than another game of it's kind instead
Game looks good to me
Maybe add a mode where each level is available after finishing the game, and then you have a timer on each level aswell, for speedrunning (A huge replayability factor)
What an amazing little session, I wish I could have a guy like this around. The games looking amazing and that tutorial bit looks fine and good to teach the player.
It's nice to finally see more gameplay of your game! Keep it up dude, this looks awesome and most importantly, fun! 😁
Fascinating to see a solid play test session in action. Game is looking great too.
Thank you John for showing insight and feedback for your passion project! It shows the nature of game dev and how much work and decision making goes into making a good game. You are doing great, excited to see more! ❤️
Loving this! I love the sound and game feel. The impact of hits got me excited without even holding the controller. Keep up the great work! Can't wait to get my hands on it when it's finished :D
I remember having my professor analyzing my group's game projects weekly. He didn't hold back, lol! Thanks for sharing this, keep it up
This is probably too late but a subtle change I would like to suggest is when the scroll opens it would be neat to see it animate as if rolling open and rolling closed. There is also a slight lingering delay after accepting the close button to disappear, and I think it would look nicer if the button text animated away before the scroll closes to confirm to the player the action that occurred.
When a secret wall fades, there could also be a shaded vignette around the tunnel space to give the illusion of being under or inside. Not really needed but I thought it would be nice polish to add in the end.
This is very very valuable information man. Thank you so much for sharing this! Also it was just really nice getting to see some more alpha gameplay of your game too! Something about the movement and attacks in this game feel so damn satisfying and I haven't even tried it myself. It's enough to have me sold on the whole game honestly, and I don't usually play games like this!
Loved it! Great feedback. Excited to see your before and after!
Your game is so well crafted. I aslo wishlisted the game. Really looking forward to it! Well done!
Dude loving your content, your friends feedback was great right from the get-go at the menu screen!
Awesome video! Truly inspiring. I've seen most of your videos, and just such quality content. Going to steam now to wishlist this! Hoping one day to be on the game dev journey.
One quick thought I had after watching this. There seems to be several sections of each level where you can no longer go backwards. In this scenario, the player finds out at the end of the sublevels that they missed a hidden rune - what do they do then? Replay the whole level, sublevel, or continue from a specific checkpoint? I'm assuming the hidden runes and chests will give you some sort of power up, so going back would be beneficial. The completionist inside me needs to know :D
It's a good point. The game plays much like new Super Mario platformers, where're runes are analagous to mario's hidden golden rings. My game is not a vania, and follows more of the Mario map style with dedicated themed levels. Within those levels there will however be a degree of lateral movement, back and forth, up and down, exploration. Some levels more so than others. Levels will be repayable. But yeah a good observation on your part, and something I have been thinking about. Thanks for the comment!
Looks amazing already! Definitely gonna drop a wishlist. Well done, looks really fun.
I can really see the hard work,love and passion put into developing this game.It looks amazing
First time seeing your game. This was such a smart way to showcase your game AND have a devlog with a bunch of tips to other devs. Wishlisted.
wishlisted! Just subscribed - very keen to go through all your videos and your journey. This is inspiring stuff - thank you.
Last video I asked for an update or a dev blog on Blood and mead, We got a LOT more than that, LOVED The video, your game is looking really cool and great idea to have another dev playing your game, this guy really knows his stuff. Keep up the great job, looking forward for next video.
Very nice test session. The guy giving the feedback is doing an amazing job ! Good luck with your game bro :)
Seeing this game in an imperfect state is so motivating. When I'm struggling to get things to work, I eventually start feeling like "real devs wouldn't have these issues." This video helps keep things in a good perspective. Thank you for sharing!
It would be really interesting to know how you decide what to ultimately do yourself and what you contract out!
I can see this guy becoming as big as brackeys , almost all problems I've had in unity I saw the solutions on his channel , keep it up bro , don't forget us when you go big :)
Probably needed as Brackeys left
Wait, this isnt Brackeys?
Man, beautiful work! Really, congrats!! And happy new year! :D
Looks like you've put a lot of work into the game. Love all the little details, animations and touches. Cool. Great work!!!
This was such a fun video, loved the mix of test gameplay and commentary. Wishlisted on Steam :D
Looks great John! Can’t wait to play!
awesome job dude. keep it up. this game looks like a fun one
The polish is awesome! The attacks seem super satisfying and I love the effects on enemy deaths!
Great job man, really inspiring work you put in! I just started learning Unity a few months ago and I aspire to create something like this!
Nice man :) Loved this video. I added the game to my wish list. Happy new year!
Looks amazing, something I would love to do and might get round to doing some research. Game looks amazing and I love some of the effects you've added. Already added to wishlist. Good Luck on your Journey👍
Super excited, looks like a fun addition to the genre, will be playing this ASAP when it is available. Best of luck, this has personality galore!
I have been following your channel for about a week or two. Thank you for all of the great content. I just wishlisted your game Blood and Mead.
My pleasure, a thanks to you also
great game my friend , had so much fun watching the gameplay i am sure it will be more fun to play it too
The opening cabin part with the foreground grass and trees look SO GOOD! Although I feel like it got a little blander and emptier as he moved through the level. Might be just the alpha but regardless, great job so far
This game looks amazing and it’s only in alpha! Can’t wait for the finished product! This is super insightful to the game making process and what attention to detail a game needs to feel good. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us. You’ve taught me a lot, and given me a game to look forward to.
What a nice comment, I wish you the very best in life, your positive attitude will serve you well. 👍
That was a very helpful and full of information video! I like your videos because they are more down to earth videos. Like you know your stuff and obviously you could brag but you have a certain level of modesty which makes it relatable for me at least. I am a game dev student year two and I found this video very helpful as I work on my own little project. Thank you for sharing.
This is my first time seeing the game in action, it looks legitimately good. Nice work!
I've seen this game mentioned in your other videos. The art style never grabbed my interest but the gameplay looks fantastic, great work. I'll have to purchase this for myself one day.
The game is looking good! I'm glad you were able to get such solid feedback. I plan to support you by buying the game 100%. It looks fun and you're putting a lot of work into it.
It's a small touch to some, but I also really like the way you animate the grass that's super-close to the camera in the foreground. It's such an overlooked thing in platformer art direction, having foreground stuff as well as background/midground, and it helps enormously with immersion, especially when you don't have the advantage of 3D, much less a first-person view, to 'draw in' the player.
Hey thanks Johnny.
What a fun process! Great video
this is incredibly valuable! thank you so much for sharing this!
this is such a great game, smooth and professionally done. I envisioned it being like shovel knight like success in the future. Goodluck.
Love the first impressions this guy had. Title screen: pointers on how to improve. Valid pointers too. Then the game starts and his reaction is much in the way of, wow this is good. Love this thing, love that thing. Plopping some small pointers along the way still but mostly just being impressed.
This video was also fruitful for me as a starting hobbydev. Very interesting stuff.
Excellent video. I am totally stealing the black bars during story moments.
This looks really cool :D
good job!
Tbh i didn't expect to like the game, i just noticed i was so hooked to the gameplay i didn't hear a word you guys said. Excited to play for myself when it comes out!
I hope your game is a success, looks fun and promising and I can tell the amount of effort that's been poured into making it. I wishlisted ! :)
These inputs are invaluable insight for any project really. Thank you for this in-depth first reaction video.
Cool to see your reaction to your friends reaction. It's scary to share your work. Especially when it's still so early, but I think it's vital to get some outside eyes on a project. I think it might've been nicer if you'd set the camera n mic up properly, but also it does give it a pretty raw, live and real playtest feel the way you've filmed it, which is nice, cause that's how it actually is. Thanks as always for keeping it real :). Signed up for the playtesting, hope I get to have a play sometime soon too.
This looks really good! Congratulations brother!! 🧡🧡🧡
literally all game developers in their games: "don't fall or you'll die."
this guy: "don't fall because I have no Idea what happens when you do"
I feel like most of us are the bottom one really
Damn...I really enjoyed seeing the gameplay. I was not expecting. It has some precious details.
I think you have done a wonderful job so far! Looks like a great game!
Fantastic quality video, great as always John
I LOVE the axe turning into a Stein to fill up with mead, that could be the most clever gaming animation I’ve seen. Excellent!
Good luck bro with further development
Love it and put it on my wish list.
Funny thing at Steam:
In the "Similar to games you have played" section was only the game "Kingdom Come Deliverance" listed xD
Great game , best luck on launch , wish you the best❤
I'm working on a mobile game (puzzle platformer), hearing your friends feed back on your game was great, I can apply some of it to my game too. Also your game looks dope! Nice job.
This looks great, quite fancy playing it!
Really loved the content!! So much to learn from❤️
your game seems amazing bro i like the graphic a lot
This was actually so inspirational to watch for some reason
Also great tip at 15:03 lol
Bro your game looks dope! Any chance we're gonna see some devlogs?
Hey thanks man, 100% I'll do some more devlogs soon!
@@LostRelicGames Signed up for some beta testing!
Great video cant wait for the before n after one, that was the definition of constructive criticism! What a nice bloke, game looks great
I started creating my own game but i chose point and click one. Im working as an illustrator and i have some experience in animation but i have no idea how to make a game. I will learn tho. Its fun watching your videos and gameplay looks so cool. I love viking so of course I added your game to my wishlist. :D Good job!
Usually this kind of games are not on my play list but seeing this game I would be playing it for sure. :) Great job mate!!!
This is going to be my first game which I will buy on Steam…🖤 Your videos are very helpful. Captured so many screen recordings from this video so that I can get inspiration from this video. Thank you so much and please make more unity tutorial if possible. 🙏
TH-cam recommended me this video, and man I also subbed to you, this video is so rich in content and tips for indie devs, something kind of a "dream" I want to start persuing starting this 2022 giving it my all not matter how hard and long it takes, so I wanted to thank you.
Sounds awesome Alex, wishing you the best for 2022!
@@LostRelicGames thank you :D I'll check out your other videos and of course I wishlisted your game, looks pretty fun :)
This game looks tight! I love the blurry grass effect on the foreground btw. I would buy this tbh.
Great Job bro. Keep it up!
Love the feedback! It helps u a lot to fix and improve your game..keep it up!
first time ever watching u but i still went and added it to my wishlist cuz i see how much the game is important to you. also it looks cool!
Animated Title Screen - Ideas. Have the birds fly on and off screen. Have the guy's axe swaying slightly up and down. Move the waves slightly like Oliver said (maybe pop a shark fin out and back under if you can). Have his helmet glisten slightly, as if being caught by the sun. That's it.
Love the starting sound effect and the rooster. Great opening! The intro is great - don't take it away.
Game looks beautiful John! Breaking and killing things looks very satisfying. Love the Mario feel to the map.
You’re doing a great job! Wishlisted!
Overall looks very good, I really liked how the game feels, added to wishlist hope it becomes valuable to you. Couple of more designer additions that I think could be help full to make onboarding better and more user centered.
-The checkpoints, reminders can be made as hud reminders (ticker system) that goes into scene after trigger, stay for a while and go away so the players gameplay doesn't have to be broken. Ex : checkpoint reached, press button to use shield. I understand that appearing on signs looks cool but have to disappear with time not with location imo.
-Can be good to have a meta effect when health is too low to inform player, red screen flash maybe super subtle one.
-rewarding and coin collection can also have maybe very minor feedback to player that pushes emotion a bit forward.
-Can have some shake effects on objects for destruction as well on cage or same texture to represent action.
that looks fun! great work
Ha, I am very new to game dev but my very first game, I am working on, has a little animation in the title screen to make it more interesting. That made me happy. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I took a few things from this session.
That's a lot of insightful feedback in a single sitting, sounds like inviting him was a great idea. And quite and interesting video, too.
Really insightful and inspiring video ! :D
This was really fun to watch. Here's some thoughts I had:
Rather than having the player go left at the start to do the tutorial section then go back right to get to the boat, you could redesign it a little to just have the player traverse the tutorial section on the way to the boat. It's a quick section, it would remove the backtracking, and it might flow a little better.
For the secret passages you can walk through, it may look nice if only the front of the wall disappeared, so it looked more like you were walking through a tunnel. This is more so directed at the secret passages outside like the first one you come across.
When jumping backward if you're in the middle of an attack animation (whether throwing or main weapon) it may be nice to have the character not turn around. So you're not flipping back and forth and you're always facing the guy you're attacking.
It's really interesting to hear Olivers comments on the game.
9:13
The crack in the wall when walking through should have a backdrop of the wall still as if it's a tunnel in the wall and not a free floating wall
Looks amazing. Some thoughts:
- Making them walk back through the level at 4:50 is interesting. A good time to make sure they know they can hold to charge the jump over the double block. Maybe remove the old signs and have a new sign to catch players who have only tapped jump until then. Maybe add an enemy or chicken to kill on the way back.
- The idle is a bit too aggressively animated, I think it looks a little glitched. I think it would look better slowed down.
- The player is asked to wait for too long at 5:30, the ship should move at least as fast as the character does else it feels weird.
- AN emergent tutorial at 6:40 should remind the player they can throw if they have not done so already
Did not watch past 8:30
This was a very interesting video. Perhaps you can invite him again when your game is in a more polished state or final phase, so he can compare how much the game improved.
hey john! thats impressive, the animations look all really good! i just watched the 2 year old early trailer on blood and mead and man thats some great quality improvements on every end. i´m curious how this will be when finished.
That game looks nice ! Keep going!
Best of luck with your game dev. Just saw this video. Even if platformers are not my cup of tea, your game looks great even in alpha. I like the fact that it's very responsive; I think that's more important that graphics or anything else and what makes a game fun to play.
To be honest, I've had an idea for a fairly large and complicated turn based strategy game (that's the genre I like to play- in what little time I have - in addition to board games), but between two jobs, I've not done much coding on it yet. (past a couple of small prototypes testing specific concepts only) I don't know if I can find the time to code such a massive project, it can be a bit daunting, but we'll see.
If you have any insights, drop me a response. I've seen some of your other videos, and there is some more to see, maybe I will find some answer to my questions.
Keep up the good work, it's nice to see someone who's in it for the games (and the fun).
Looks great. As a suggestion I think the check point flag should come down right when you land on the platform because when it comes down with the player blocking it, it loses a bit of the flag effects. When you go over the flag maybe it could come up with the word check point like it did with the level name but not as large.
The Game looks very good! Wow been a while since I saw gameplay of your game ;) mostly I am just listening of your videos and doing something else
OMG the game looks just so great and polished. Just by watching I can say it's very addictive. I wishlisted it on steam. I am looking forward to make a review about it on my curator's page. Wish You everything best with the game!
Great video! he touched on a lot of things that i wouldn't have thought about.
Just leaving a comment for the algorithm!! Super nice video and the game look really funny good :) Lovde it! Not far into the vid but maybe coop?