Relatively New Goodman System Completely Out Of Freon!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2024
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  • @July4.1776
    @July4.1776 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I used to have problems running out of nitrogen. Years ago I started keeping two tanks of nitrogen on my truck. When I crack open the second tank, I replace the first tank. I can run the bottles dry and I always have plenty of nitrogen. Complete game changer.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They should come up with a nitrogen pump so you can fill easy, the atmosphere is like 80% nitrogen.

    • @drodriguez394
      @drodriguez394 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jthonndoesn’t work that way. The air you breathe is not dry. You need to extract it, separate it and dry it, dry it with refrigeration. What you just suggested will never happen

    • @acrservicesmathewr7565
      @acrservicesmathewr7565 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hints the name dry nitrogen lol

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@drodriguez394 I hear ya, they aren't going to make something to replace what they are making money on either.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@acrservicesmathewr7565 You know, liquid nitrogen is as dry as it gets, right?

  • @mel904
    @mel904 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Turning off the disconnect was a good save. I was waiting for it to start. lol!

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What part of the video?

    • @stevee7774
      @stevee7774 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@realSamAndrew- At about 5:57 he remembers to pull the disconnect after he had started putting nitrogen in the system.

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@stevee7774Thank you. I don't know how I missed that even after looking for it on a rewatch 😮😮.

  • @zachsaul148
    @zachsaul148 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Nothing I’d rather do more than listen to Curtis breathe and do badass HVAC work! Great content as always!

  • @kendallgleason8622
    @kendallgleason8622 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Thanks for explaining what you’re doing all along the way and the great camera shots from inside the equipment really helps us learn how to troubleshoot.

  • @kg4muc
    @kg4muc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Good test for the ultrasonic. Great job as always

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!

  • @ABC-wz2db
    @ABC-wz2db 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We have these units where I work. Blower assembly is blocked by evaporator and a pain to replace. Also evap coils fail regularly.

  • @causeofdeath8941
    @causeofdeath8941 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Man...I cannot get enough of your videos. Thank you for being a solid resource for the trade. Curious why no oil was at the leak. Too slow of a leak to carry oil with it?

  • @dporrasxtremeLS3
    @dporrasxtremeLS3 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Curtis, great video. This would be a Great video when you come back to fix.
    Thanks!

  • @JRS-iq9pz
    @JRS-iq9pz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    That's a big bill. Yikes!

  • @optionstraderman
    @optionstraderman 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice Job! Need to add the AccuTrak Leak detector to your tool list above for those interested in acquiring one. Looks like it works pretty well.

  • @makinbac0n
    @makinbac0n 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You will do less "knuckle bustin" if you put the adjustable wrench on the nut then adjust it so it's a tighter fit. Also less likely to strip the nut or fitting. Well done. That AccuTrak is neat.

  • @VinnyV911GT3
    @VinnyV911GT3 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thanks for another great video! Keep them coming.
    I always learn something. Especially ways I can do prevent matinance.
    Thanks Much!

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @chrisseabolt9593
    @chrisseabolt9593 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Why do you think manufacturer doesn't ever guarantee refrigerant. 410 double the pressure as r 22. Once you've been to the factory and seen the assembly line you'll never feel confident that things won't happen down the road

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      'That's a good point. I knew it was more pressure, but I didn't realise that much more. I don't know why they don't go ahead make units that use CO2 or nitrogen. That way we could release the gas and not hurt the atmosphere.

    • @JesseDoesHVAC
      @JesseDoesHVAC 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      5 years pretty much standard here in Australia 🇦🇺
      But when you talk refrigerant leaks they always try to blame the installer, talking from experience

  • @Cavett24
    @Cavett24 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When using the ultra sonic leak detector, I've found it really helps to wet the coil with a spray bottle of water. Another great video, thanks for sharing!

  • @TomLawson05
    @TomLawson05 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great find on the leak look forward to the repair thanks for the video

  • @phillipjoy1305
    @phillipjoy1305 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That leak detector works better if you wet the coil.GREAT VIDEOS 😊

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for the tip

  • @jose01099
    @jose01099 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    why is there no oil where it all leaked out?

    • @douglasvalladares2025
      @douglasvalladares2025 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When is a small leak you see oil residue, but when is a big one there is not to much signs

  • @jhill.7216
    @jhill.7216 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1:44 best thing a customer has ever said salute to this guy 🫡🫡

  • @donquijote6030
    @donquijote6030 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent methodical troubleshooting. Well done!

  • @CarlosMendoza-bv5bw
    @CarlosMendoza-bv5bw 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for explaining more in depth and taking us along the way. feels like where next to you learning from a pro.

  • @williamserver4332
    @williamserver4332 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing

  • @raygunsforronnie847
    @raygunsforronnie847 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Curtis, your camera shots - the 'get in tight' stuff - is really good! Thanks for upping your game!

  • @OcRefrigeration
    @OcRefrigeration 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great video But You don't need to replace the drier on that call. Just Evacuate & Fill it up.
    You filled it with nitrogen. the nitrogen has an affinity for moisture and gathers any moisture and pulls it out with it. hence the name " Dry nitrogen "
    only time a drier needs changed is when replacing a Compressor or doing any more than 4 welds on a system or Physically rusty or old.
    That system was new u said.
    What's changing the drier going to do for the system ? it's a new drier. it's not old , rusty or clogged up.

    • @xcarpkidx3128
      @xcarpkidx3128 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well the systems was open for an extended period of time , And clearly the people who installed it didn't care to pull a vacuum so there was probably no precautions taken when brazing the unit and coil. If i was in his shoes i would also change the dryer while I'm at it

  • @garlandpomeroy8060
    @garlandpomeroy8060 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Just found a minisplit with no refrigerant in it today, have a good one Curtis!

  • @thesilentonevictor
    @thesilentonevictor 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good catch curtis

  • @butlerstouchHVAC
    @butlerstouchHVAC 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video tech appreciate your expertise

  • @mikemoseley8711
    @mikemoseley8711 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Typically with Goodman, it’s a leak in the condenser like a vibration or rub out

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I've yet to have a condenser to leak after installing several hundred Goodman however I always go above the quality level of most companies and I inspect all new units to see if anything can rub the insulation on the wires or lines rubbing together and secure if needed. I've personally had the most leaks from Rheem and York. Trane with the most compressor failures. If you only compare package units, Trane has the most leaks by far, but it's usually because the installer didn't do a good job and inspect the unit to see if lines were rubbing together. Yes we shouldn't have to do that but the quality of all new units, regardless of brand, is pretty much junk these days. That's why I don't push people into getting a new unit. With the new EPA standards in effect, I doubt any system will last 5 years without giving a major issue.

    • @gregvermillion495
      @gregvermillion495 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah that dam true suction port always rubs out its the first thing I check when I find a flat goodman or amana

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Mine was in the evaporator. My sister in law has 2 units and the evaporator on each one went out. The warranty covered them at 7 years old. They claimed that there was a bad batch of evaporators that went out.

    • @dgapp76
      @dgapp76 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Trane/American Standard condensers leak where suction and discharge lines pass under the coil. Sometimes on the aluminum spine fin tubes too, directly above the suction/discharge lines.

    • @zeldamoore8371
      @zeldamoore8371 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jthonnyes, my son has AC co. & replaced many leaking evaporator coils on Goodmans, including mine twice. He hesitated to continue to install them because of how many leaked. Reasonable priced units for customers without a lot of money.

  • @OIC-es6pi
    @OIC-es6pi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, thanks.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you liked it!

  • @Bunkysworkshop
    @Bunkysworkshop 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    So we had a Goodman system put in one other house and it stopped working after three months. The company that installed it came back and said the compressor was blown. He put a new one in and said it had blown because the system was cycling way too much and whoever installed the system didn’t set the blower speed correctly. I told the man that it was his company that did the installation of the in and outside unit. His face went red and went to the truck on his phone. Let’s just say it was replaced and I didn’t call them back.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That is why certain units get a bad name. It wasn't the unit's fault at all.

    • @Bunkysworkshop
      @Bunkysworkshop 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jthonn I don’t know that much about Goodman to really say if they are quality or not. What are your thoughts?

    • @dkinfishing
      @dkinfishing 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What a smart guy he was 🤣 and good call not calling them back to your house. And Goodman units are top of the line but they work

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Bunkysworkshop The one I have is a 4 ton, it is 18 years old r22. It has a slow leak that started when it was 13. I put stop leak in it last year and it is still working. Are they any good today, I don't know. I was putting about 3lbs. of freon a year in it, so I'll be posting if the stop leak worked at all when I check it, so far so good.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@dkinfishing I think you meant aren't top of the line. They aren't the worst either, I would say middle of the road.

  • @OcRefrigeration
    @OcRefrigeration 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i Like that Leak detector ! That thing works good ! Very cool. i might have to get me one of those.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im still learning to use it appropriately

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Be prepared to open your wallet wide. They ain't cheap.

  • @burtminshew4812
    @burtminshew4812 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    On a Goodman/Amana.....wow that's so rare!!! Said no one everrrr

  • @user-sp5eh7km7j
    @user-sp5eh7km7j 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Of course it would be the unit behind another.

  • @caru3257
    @caru3257 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I carry two of Nitrogen and two acetylene. I forgot how many map gas bottles I got but I may downsize to two.

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Curtis i look forwrd to the finished job 👍 Au

  • @10forthebigguy753
    @10forthebigguy753 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Was that leaking brass part the TXV?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes, the connections on either side of it

  • @alexv3866
    @alexv3866 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good job.

  • @andyvitz
    @andyvitz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cool hopefully you haveing a good day

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! You too!

    • @Pollito_frito_que_suda
      @Pollito_frito_que_suda 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@HVACGUY you can accept me on the work

  • @krishuntzeroable
    @krishuntzeroable 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    His first problem was wanting it to go below 70. 😂

  • @manhpham8052
    @manhpham8052 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    vey nice troubleshooting skills, i have been hooked to your video, im mainly do commercial refrigeration, learning my way to hvac with your video. which state that u live in?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Georgia

    • @manhpham8052
      @manhpham8052 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HVACGUY i live in lawrenceville GA. Lol which city that you live?

  • @stevencossaboon3237
    @stevencossaboon3237 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice work Curtis. Hopefully you'll get the repairs.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hope so too

  • @christopherdelon3026
    @christopherdelon3026 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Have seen it many times

  • @user-su5ft8lc9q
    @user-su5ft8lc9q 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm retired now but i used to buy xetra nitrogen and acetylene tanks at farm sales for 5 or 10 dollars. Sure beats paying new price at the supplier.

  • @woodystokes1543
    @woodystokes1543 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice work man as always. Frustrating that you have to wait for a approval while you are right there.

  • @ElonMusk-hx8yw
    @ElonMusk-hx8yw 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My guy was inhaling freon for who knows how long

  • @tedhicks5431
    @tedhicks5431 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Have you yet found a good sniffer yet?

  • @CarlosMendoza-bv5bw
    @CarlosMendoza-bv5bw 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Curtis what would happen if you flush the system with nitrogen and dont replace the filter drier ? I dont think there would be non condensables in the system especially if you pull a good vacuum

  • @brandonallen914
    @brandonallen914 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Opinion on concord units for residential?

  • @craigmarshall40
    @craigmarshall40 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you like the acutrac ? What model do you recommend?

  • @mikepekarek6220
    @mikepekarek6220 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get that pressure up to 450-500 psi.

  • @TimTakacs
    @TimTakacs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So sad that prices today are crazy high. A repair like that would have cost $240.00 in my day. Oh well times change.

  • @chesstime356
    @chesstime356 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did you say $1300.00 if yes ? so I think it’s very good price for customer … nice job 👍

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks

  • @brentmanzella4186
    @brentmanzella4186 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Freon ain't cheap!
    That's like almost the worst thing that can happen

  • @billkunert7281
    @billkunert7281 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Is it possible to put dye in home air conditioners like the do in automotive A/C sytems to help locate leaks?

    • @garlandpomeroy8060
      @garlandpomeroy8060 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It is, but it's not recommended, the dye is a non condensible and can gunk up valves and etc.

    • @caru3257
      @caru3257 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@garlandpomeroy8060the sealant maybe. I don’t know about the dye.

    • @garlandpomeroy8060
      @garlandpomeroy8060 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@caru3257anything that isn't refrigerant or oil is a non-condensable in my book.

    • @OcRefrigeration
      @OcRefrigeration 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Putting dye in a system should be a Last Resort When You Have Looked for Refrigerant leaks with leak detector & bubbles & can't find it.

  • @OnusBones
    @OnusBones 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ouch. Bad original installation, or did the joint there deteriorate?

    • @stevee7774
      @stevee7774 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He said it was fairly new so I’d go with bad install.

  • @harrydickson4575
    @harrydickson4575 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    👍👍👍

  • @sergiohernandez4163
    @sergiohernandez4163 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess i missed it where was the leak and why replace the dryer?

  • @38mullet
    @38mullet 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    is that ultrasonic leak detector do you like it there pricey

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It has its uses. Still need a sniffer.

  • @andrewhennerfeind9879
    @andrewhennerfeind9879 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Do you have a cutoff pressure that you consider it a total loss? i.e. anything under 20 psi gets vacuum and a dryer?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Basically zero.

    • @PhilipNation-xm5lh
      @PhilipNation-xm5lh 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HVACGUY I agree. When someone tells me that they have to add refrigerant on an annual basis and the gauge reads zero, it's time to aggressively look for the leak before adding even if they just want it "filled."

  • @raultorres9231
    @raultorres9231 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why would you have to replace the liquid line dryer?

  • @charlesplantjr2814
    @charlesplantjr2814 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You not showing another for the DIY .To know what you are doing.

  • @juliomoreno5370
    @juliomoreno5370 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So when it’s that low you just put nitrogen don’t pump down ?

  • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
    @JimAlderson-cn6ek 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I haven't even watched the video two things to check first tube for suckshion reading on heatpump and Schrader on evap coil air or heatpump got over heated on install

    • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
      @JimAlderson-cn6ek 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Then there's always the guy that dosnt no how to braze

    • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
      @JimAlderson-cn6ek 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can't say I haven't seen that one to its a good one man 😅😂😊

    • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
      @JimAlderson-cn6ek 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Good job as always I'm retired but still like watching a good tech at work trust me after 28 years iv seen some bad ones u are the man

  • @jthonn
    @jthonn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Simple fix 1300 bucks. That's a shame, but it is what it is. Nice job

  • @tamle3132
    @tamle3132 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1300$ 😢

  • @mikehouser5430
    @mikehouser5430 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    1st