I was satisfied with my 2011 no bloody R, RS or RR, until I saw the 1200RR. Loved the RS as well but the looks of the RR especially in Crystal White with Gold coach lining. Ordered it last Sept. Got it in February. I heard the suspension on the RS was stiff. However with the RR's electronic Ohlins "road" mode softens the ride. Rider mode you cam make it softer. It does have the five modes "track" wasn't mentioned. Not a lot of miles on it, 833. The reason for that is two fold. First I live in the Tucson area and you guys know it can get pretty warm. Second, was two weeks after the 1200RR I bought a Thruxton RS Ton Up Special Edition. I must admit there are more miles on it and it's two weeks "younger" then the 1200RR. Love the channel Red! Keep at it and be well. Kenn
Hi Kenn, no worries at all about the few miles on the RR, it is a beautiful work of art that I think is worth the money just to look at!! Nice you have treated your self, love the Thruxton RS as well. Good point on the electronic suspension with the RR being softer in road mode, that is a benefit for sure. Many thanks and same you. All the best
My opinion, I also choose the RR, for appearance. Really like the fairing, everything about it. However the RS is such a great bike with the riding position, probably more practical as you explained. Really enjoy your commentary and your channel! 👍 Have a great day !
Hi Brian, many thanks I appreciate that and glad you enjoy the channel 👍 I just love the looks of the RR, however if it where my own money I would have the RS, just better on road! Cheers
Angus, the 1200RS engine comes alive above about 9k revs by which time you doing insane speeds, below this I found it quite flat. Agree with you the riding position is very comfortable and the ease with which the 1200RS turns and drops into a bend is sublime. Owing to the very firm suspension I think it is best suited to a smooth race track. I just don't like the aesthetics of the RR and it looks flippin uncomfortable I don't think Triumph will sell that many. I reckon it will be quietly dropped by Triumph from their range. Also I much prefer the dash of the older 1050RS don't like the 1200 dash on either the 1200 RS or RR. Oh and the twin high level Arrow exhausts of the 1050RS although add extra weight, sound and look awesome imho. Take care, ATB
Hi Alex, yes I would love to try out the 1050RS 👍 Perhaps that more mid range torque would make it better for on road riding. I LOVE the looks of the RR, but I agree, don't think they will sell too many of them (too expensive) and the RS makes more sense for riding on the road. Cheers
@@redangrevival Angus, Thanks for your reply. The RR seems very much like a Marmite bike, you either love it or hate it. Sadly I think I am one of the latter on reflection . Don't get me wrong I did like the 1200RS, its handling reminded me of it's smaller sibling the Street Triple RS, so quick to turn and light, very flickable, but to enjoy it fully you really need to be on a track. The 1200 engine with QS is just so good, but for me I prefer the 1050RS as it feels to me a better bike for the road. 148bhp is more than enough. it is still plenty fast enough It seems to hsve more low down torque, well it felt that way to me when I rode them back to back last summer. Maybe I should venture your way and you can have a go on mine? Failing this there must be a dealer/bike shop near you who has a nice s/h one available for you to ride so you can do a definitive comparison. How about Blade themselves? If I wanted semi active electronic suspension , rather than the Triumph Speed 1200RR, I would go for the KTM SDR 1290 3.0 EVO or the Aprilia Tuono 1100 Factory, probaby the SDR actually, but for the moment my 1050RS is scratching my itch. Too many nice bikes to own and ride now. Life was never this complicated. ATB, Angus
@@alexmorgan3435 Haha it is a real luxury having so many good bikes to choose from!! I have heard from other people as well that the 1050RS is a better road bike than the new models. I will try to get a ride on one locally, but failing that would love to take yours for a ride 👍 I really must try the Aprilia 1100!! 😁 Cheers
Do you think a tune will help that below 9000 the freaking thing is boring as hell I want instant power from the gecko that's one thing I hate about these liter bikes I hate that lag.
I've ridden both and IMO, I found the new RS better in almost every way. That said, the loaner 1050 I had for a month remains the excellent bike that made me buy the 1200RR.
The RS is - looks wise- the example of something only a mother can love. When we're dropping the amount of dough these bikes cost, you might as well have something that makes you smile every time you close the garage door. Call me vain/shallow, but I already have my car as an appliance, I want my bikes to be gorgeous.
I understand, looks are so subjective though. I love the look of the RR!!! Would have it just to look at 😁 The RS not as bad looking in the metal, but not great!
Iv the rs 1200 in black. Really like it, sweet handling, had the suspension setup at weardale racing, much improved, a little firm, but much more compliant. Pro race carbon can, servo delete, getting it Dyno set up at J33 next year. Only complaint is seat is a steep angle, an slide fwd a bit too much. Though, overall very happy with it.
Certainly a good sign of a good bike when you see lots of them 👍 Really impressive bikes!! Such quality in every department. Would get some miles under your belt before considering one of these haha
Nice looking, not sure on all these mean looking headlights and some of these prices, what do they do , think of a number then double it. Great review Angus Ride safe Cheers
Haha they are very pricey, but I suppose if you compare it to a Harley then it is relatively cheap!! I personally think if any bike can justify its price it is these. They are so good haha. The best of the best components etc... and the quality finish is better than most. But agreed I would rather have a Speedmaster and a Royal Enfield Interceptor 👍
Can you do the Himalayan Scram please? Id like your comparison on the Standard Himi and the Scram. I plan to test ride both in a few weeks but Id like your opinion.
I really wish Triumph would bring out an S model of this bike, as per the previous variant. The jump from my 2020 S model, to the new RS model with heated grips (£15,800), is a step too far for me 🥴
They are expensive bikes, and definitely packed with all the "tech"! I think the RR will be massively limited on sales just due to its price. Suppose the RS competes with the likes of Ducati etc... so they can justify the price.
I'm swapping in my s1000xr for a RS on Saturday, Baja orange one from 2023. Was really torn between the RR (got a superdeal on a 2022 model with full warranty for 2.500 euro less than the base RS price) and the RS. Eventually went for the RS anyway.. Dunno if that was a mistake but comming from the Sport-touring/naked bike sceene the RR seemed kinda extreme. And that colour scheme of the new RS...
I ride mine in rain mode most of the time because it’s easier to ride , I use road mode on the motorways and sport mode on B roads to have fun but tbh Road mode is perfectly fine, I disagree that it’s “ comfortable “ though it’s definitely not comfortable but that’s just my opinion and I also don’t care about the comfort because it makes me feel good so I can live with that 😅👍
Good use of the different modes 👍 OK I may have been getting carried away when saying it was comfortable!! Better than I thought is what I should have said, good for a very sports focused bike. If it was too comfortable then you would be making sacrifices in other areas. Great bike
@@redangrevival yeah definitely I agree when you ride it like a road bike it’s ok but you can feel it wants to do some more advanced stuff like when you lean it over it’s like “ aha yes yes let’s try for a 65 degree lean angle at the next roundabout “ 🤣🤣
2:10 What? I will never agree that the Speed 1200 likes the city. The biggest problem for me is a road with holes where the whole motorcycle jumps, you ride in 1st or 2nd gear below 30 mph then it jerks terribly with every slightest movement of the throttle... in addition, a large turning radius is another disadvantage and too quiet exhaust but I love it in general 😁
Fair enough, I agree on the suspension side. I didn't find the throttle jerky at all!! Nice comfortable riding position and smooth at low speed I thought. Who cares what it is like in town really haha It is a fantastic bike 👍
Its more than fine in the city. IThe suspension is fully adjustable and is fine once set up and it is a little unhappy at low speeds but nothing especially bad. The turning radius? You can turn it almost on its axis ... just like any other bike if you know what you are doing ... you can turn it on the spot if you know more and are a bit reckless.
Many bikes have some RR? upgrade. It is for the track. If you are into track, then get it, but if for the road DO NOT. The RS's are much more suited for public toad riding and will give a lot more pleasure.
I usually sum a bike up by how it “ behaves “ like the BMW s1000r behaves better than the RS but it doesn’t make you feel good because it’s a bit soulless don’t get me wrong the Bmw does everything perfectly but it just does it quietly.. the RS is like “ Come on then let’s see if we can end up in a hedge” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍!!!!
😂 Hopefully you don't end up in a hedge!! Although I have not ridden the s1000r I get what you mean, the triple engine just adds that extra bit of character to the bike 🤟 Enjoy
Still got my RS , just in for its first service and tbh even though I don’t absolutely love it it’s just got something about it that makes me want to keep it ! 😂 it’s probably the engine, I had a sit on the V2 Ducati and the Streetfighter but they just don’t have the “ soul” of the Triumph even the the Triumph is a bit ugly but I’m no supermodel so we’re a good match 😂👍🏾👍🏾so for now I’m gonna keep it 👍🏾
I have the 2019 1050RS and yes the bike is amazing, but the suspension is abysmal IMO, its not fit for purpose at its out of the gate set up, it is supposed to be a road going naked bike, and road is the key to my comment, 99% (at a guess) are not Track going folk, so why would Triumph insist on the harsh set up, especially when parting with a lot of money. Ive since taken the suspension to a ohlins specialist to soften the Compression to iron out the road, given at pace it makes my vision blurred at best. My biggest upset from this is Ive had bikes from a GSXR 1000 to a GS1200 and they where butter smooth, so come on Triumph admit you got the suspension wrong and get a recall to address it.
Must admit I haven't ridden the 1050RS, but that sounds too harsh setup to me. I suppose it is adjustable so you can soften it up somewhat. I think the pick out of the new models is the RS, not too hard out of the box suspension.
the rs is not the naked version of the rr as it is a speed triple. The rr is the faired version of the Speed Triple. RR is not really a speed triple imo and I've owned 6 of them, most new gens since 98.
@@redangrevival first Speed Triple...1994. Many generations since then and I have owned most if not all of them. Until the 1200...no fairings...nothing other than double headlights. Nuff said. Just picked up a new 2022 1200 today. RS.
I own the RS and can confirm that this bike is awesome.
I raised the handlebar for about an inch and it got way more comfortable (I'm 6´2).
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I was satisfied with my 2011 no bloody R, RS or RR, until I saw the 1200RR. Loved the RS as well but the looks of the RR especially in Crystal White with Gold coach lining. Ordered it last Sept. Got it in February. I heard the suspension on the RS was stiff. However with the RR's electronic Ohlins "road" mode softens the ride. Rider mode you cam make it softer. It does have the five modes "track" wasn't mentioned. Not a lot of miles on it, 833. The reason for that is two fold. First I live in the Tucson area and you guys know it can get pretty warm. Second, was two weeks after the 1200RR I bought a Thruxton RS Ton Up Special Edition. I must admit there are more miles on it and it's two weeks "younger" then the 1200RR. Love the channel Red! Keep at it and be well. Kenn
Hi Kenn, no worries at all about the few miles on the RR, it is a beautiful work of art that I think is worth the money just to look at!!
Nice you have treated your self, love the Thruxton RS as well. Good point on the electronic suspension with the RR being softer in road mode, that is a benefit for sure.
Many thanks and same you. All the best
@@redangrevival sorry ingot a little long winded. Had a couple ale's. Yap yap yap haha
@@TriumphLover Haha all good, I have just started 🍻
Yep RS for me too. I prefer the looks of it too once you have stuck the missing front fairing back on.
My opinion, I also choose the RR, for appearance. Really like the fairing, everything about it. However the RS is such a great bike with the riding position, probably more practical as you explained. Really enjoy your commentary and your channel! 👍 Have a great day !
Hi Brian, many thanks I appreciate that and glad you enjoy the channel 👍 I just love the looks of the RR, however if it where my own money I would have the RS, just better on road! Cheers
Angus, the 1200RS engine comes alive above about 9k revs by which time you doing insane speeds, below this I found it quite flat. Agree with you the riding position is very comfortable and the ease with which the 1200RS turns and drops into a bend is sublime. Owing to the very firm suspension I think it is best suited to a smooth race track.
I just don't like the aesthetics of the RR and it looks flippin uncomfortable I don't think Triumph will sell that many. I reckon it will be quietly dropped by Triumph from their range.
Also I much prefer the dash of the older 1050RS don't like the 1200 dash on either the 1200 RS or RR.
Oh and the twin high level Arrow exhausts of the 1050RS although add extra weight, sound and look awesome imho.
Take care, ATB
Hi Alex, yes I would love to try out the 1050RS 👍 Perhaps that more mid range torque would make it better for on road riding. I LOVE the looks of the RR, but I agree, don't think they will sell too many of them (too expensive) and the RS makes more sense for riding on the road.
Cheers
@@redangrevival Angus, Thanks for your reply. The RR seems very much like a Marmite bike, you either love it or hate it. Sadly I think I am one of the latter on reflection .
Don't get me wrong I did like the 1200RS, its handling reminded me of it's smaller sibling the Street Triple RS, so quick to turn and light, very flickable, but to enjoy it fully you really need to be on a track. The 1200 engine with QS is just so good, but for me I prefer the 1050RS as it feels to me a better bike for the road. 148bhp is more than enough. it is still plenty fast enough It seems to hsve more low down torque, well it felt that way to me when I rode them back to back last summer. Maybe I should venture your way and you can have a go on mine? Failing this there must be a dealer/bike shop near you who has a nice s/h one available for you to ride so you can do a definitive comparison. How about Blade themselves?
If I wanted semi active electronic suspension , rather than the Triumph Speed 1200RR, I would go for the KTM SDR 1290 3.0 EVO or the Aprilia Tuono 1100 Factory, probaby the SDR actually, but for the moment my 1050RS is scratching my itch.
Too many nice bikes to own and ride now. Life was never this complicated.
ATB, Angus
You’re dead right, I’ve had my RS 5 months now and I decided to to 7000 rpm and omg it’s insane even in road mode 😂 I love it
@@alexmorgan3435 Haha it is a real luxury having so many good bikes to choose from!! I have heard from other people as well that the 1050RS is a better road bike than the new models.
I will try to get a ride on one locally, but failing that would love to take yours for a ride 👍
I really must try the Aprilia 1100!! 😁
Cheers
Do you think a tune will help that below 9000 the freaking thing is boring as hell I want instant power from the gecko that's one thing I hate about these liter bikes I hate that lag.
Great comparison mate. However the best one for the road is the previous 1050 RS . All day long.
Thanks 👍 Have never ridden the 1050RS but have heard good things!
I've ridden both and IMO, I found the new RS better in almost every way. That said, the loaner 1050 I had for a month remains the excellent bike that made me buy the 1200RR.
Agree. That's why I got a 1050RS. More low down shove and a slightly more compliant ride
I have the white RR, love it!
👌 Such a gorgeous bike, very jealous!! That is definitely a keeper. Enjoy
The RS is - looks wise- the example of something only a mother can love. When we're dropping the amount of dough these bikes cost, you might as well have something that makes you smile every time you close the garage door. Call me vain/shallow, but I already have my car as an appliance, I want my bikes to be gorgeous.
I understand, looks are so subjective though. I love the look of the RR!!! Would have it just to look at 😁 The RS not as bad looking in the metal, but not great!
@@redangrevival the RR looks 🔥
@@cocky_potato 🤙
They are both beautiful
Disagreed. Its beautiful. In a world full of absolutely ugly bikes it is one of the few remaining lookers.
Iv the rs 1200 in black. Really like it, sweet handling, had the suspension setup at weardale racing, much improved, a little firm, but much more compliant. Pro race carbon can, servo delete, getting it Dyno set up at J33 next year. Only complaint is seat is a steep angle, an slide fwd a bit too much. Though, overall very happy with it.
👍 a stunning bike! Sounds like you have set yours up nicely, bet she sounds great as well 😁 Hope your suspension set up is not too stiff. Cheers
Thanks RedAng!
Many thanks Kenn, I really appreciate that 🙌 Glad you enjoyed the video, all the best and have a great bank holiday. Cheers
Saw at least eight of these at Ilfracombe bike show. Can't all be wrong 😉
Certainly a good sign of a good bike when you see lots of them 👍 Really impressive bikes!! Such quality in every department. Would get some miles under your belt before considering one of these haha
Yes probably a bit naughty for me😈
Nice looking, not sure on all these mean looking headlights and some of these prices, what do they do , think of a number then double it.
Great review Angus
Ride safe
Cheers
Haha they are very pricey, but I suppose if you compare it to a Harley then it is relatively cheap!! I personally think if any bike can justify its price it is these. They are so good haha. The best of the best components etc... and the quality finish is better than most. But agreed I would rather have a Speedmaster and a Royal Enfield Interceptor 👍
@@redangrevival Definitely live in a pricey world and it appears to be getting worse!
Anyway, onwards and forward Angus my good man :-))
Can you do the Himalayan Scram please? Id like your comparison on the Standard Himi and the Scram. I plan to test ride both in a few weeks but Id like your opinion.
Hi Scott, I am trying my best to get a ride on the Scram!! 👍 Will definitely do a comparison of the 2 soon. Cheers and enjoy your test rides.
I really wish Triumph would bring out an S model of this bike, as per the previous variant. The jump from my 2020 S model, to the new RS model with heated grips (£15,800), is a step too far for me 🥴
They are expensive bikes, and definitely packed with all the "tech"! I think the RR will be massively limited on sales just due to its price. Suppose the RS competes with the likes of Ducati etc... so they can justify the price.
Have you seen the current deals on the RR from Triumph? They’re clearly struggling to shift them.
@@SBKPete I haven't but that is music to my ears! Would love one.
Those roads kill me with the squiggly lines
Yes they are terrible roads! Great bike though
I'm swapping in my s1000xr for a RS on Saturday, Baja orange one from 2023. Was really torn between the RR (got a superdeal on a 2022 model with full warranty for 2.500 euro less than the base RS price) and the RS. Eventually went for the RS anyway.. Dunno if that was a mistake but comming from the Sport-touring/naked bike sceene the RR seemed kinda extreme. And that colour scheme of the new RS...
👍 I think you made a great decision! Especially from your back ground of riding. The RS is much nicer to ride on the road. Enjoy
I ride mine in rain mode most of the time because it’s easier to ride , I use road mode on the motorways and sport mode on B roads to have fun but tbh Road mode is perfectly fine, I disagree that it’s “ comfortable “ though it’s definitely not comfortable but that’s just my opinion and I also don’t care about the comfort because it makes me feel good so I can live with that 😅👍
Good use of the different modes 👍 OK I may have been getting carried away when saying it was comfortable!! Better than I thought is what I should have said, good for a very sports focused bike. If it was too comfortable then you would be making sacrifices in other areas. Great bike
@@redangrevival yeah definitely I agree when you ride it like a road bike it’s ok but you can feel it wants to do some more advanced stuff like when you lean it over it’s like “ aha yes yes let’s try for a 65 degree lean angle at the next roundabout “ 🤣🤣
@@pcarts232 😂 Definitely has some track pedigree in its DNA!
Do you know what compression setting the shock was set on? If it was set as soft as possible is that still good “out of the crate”?
Sorry I cannot recall what the setting was on. I really don't think it is a too stiffly damped bike as standard
Agree 100%, only thing better is a 2023 Tuono V4 1100
Ah now I must ride one of those!
2:10 What? I will never agree that the Speed 1200 likes the city. The biggest problem for me is a road with holes where the whole motorcycle jumps, you ride in 1st or 2nd gear below 30 mph then it jerks terribly with every slightest movement of the throttle... in addition, a large turning radius is another disadvantage and too quiet exhaust but I love it in general 😁
Fair enough, I agree on the suspension side. I didn't find the throttle jerky at all!! Nice comfortable riding position and smooth at low speed I thought.
Who cares what it is like in town really haha It is a fantastic bike 👍
Its more than fine in the city. IThe suspension is fully adjustable and is fine once set up and it is a little unhappy at low speeds but nothing especially bad.
The turning radius? You can turn it almost on its axis ... just like any other bike if you know what you are doing ... you can turn it on the spot if you know more and are a bit reckless.
Whats the engine rpm at 80 mph in 6th gear?
Apologies I cannot say exactly!! Certainly not straining the engine 😁 Plenty of rev range left.
Both beautiful
It can be turned on and started in one press!!! Just hold the starter down and it will do it all in one press, turn on, turn fuel on and start..
Haha that is good to hear! Was getting a bit frustrated 👍
@@redangrevival ezee when you know how! 😉
@@benkelly2190 😂
Many bikes have some RR? upgrade. It is for the track. If you are into track, then get it, but if for the road DO NOT. The RS's are much more suited for public toad riding and will give a lot more pleasure.
Give me RR paint and tank and emblem, and a fly screen to match, no clip ons and RS riding position and bar 👍
i owned an m3 competition until recently i’m sure the triumph is more comfortable than that!
Hahaha
I usually sum a bike up by how it “ behaves “ like the BMW s1000r behaves better than the RS but it doesn’t make you feel good because it’s a bit soulless don’t get me wrong the Bmw does everything perfectly but it just does it quietly.. the RS is like “ Come on then let’s see if we can end up in a hedge” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍!!!!
😂 Hopefully you don't end up in a hedge!! Although I have not ridden the s1000r I get what you mean, the triple engine just adds that extra bit of character to the bike 🤟 Enjoy
Still got my RS , just in for its first service and tbh even though I don’t absolutely love it it’s just got something about it that makes me want to keep it ! 😂 it’s probably the engine, I had a sit on the V2 Ducati and the Streetfighter but they just don’t have the “ soul” of the Triumph even the the Triumph is a bit ugly but I’m no supermodel so we’re a good match 😂👍🏾👍🏾so for now I’m gonna keep it 👍🏾
I’ve had my RS for almost a year now and I swear I’ve STILL not taken it above 7000 RPM 😂!!!
I have the 2019 1050RS and yes the bike is amazing, but the suspension is abysmal IMO, its not fit for purpose at its out of the gate set up, it is supposed to be a road going naked bike, and road is the key to my comment, 99% (at a guess) are not Track going folk, so why would Triumph insist on the harsh set up, especially when parting with a lot of money. Ive since taken the suspension to a ohlins specialist to soften the Compression to iron out the road, given at pace it makes my vision blurred at best. My biggest upset from this is Ive had bikes from a GSXR 1000 to a GS1200 and they where butter smooth, so come on Triumph admit you got the suspension wrong and get a recall to address it.
Must admit I haven't ridden the 1050RS, but that sounds too harsh setup to me. I suppose it is adjustable so you can soften it up somewhat.
I think the pick out of the new models is the RS, not too hard out of the box suspension.
the rs is not the naked version of the rr as it is a speed triple. The rr is the faired version of the Speed Triple. RR is not really a speed triple imo and I've owned 6 of them, most new gens since 98.
Horses for courses! Yes I suppose it could be seen that way around 👍
@@redangrevival first Speed Triple...1994. Many generations since then and I have owned most if not all of them. Until the 1200...no fairings...nothing other than double headlights. Nuff said. Just picked up a new 2022 1200 today. RS.
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