BMW 330i 325i E46 Replace Steering Giubo DIY
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- How to replace a steering giubo, or flex disc, on an E46 BMW 3-series. The steering giubo is a rubber disc that absorbs vibrations in the steering system and it can become worn and degraded over time, resulting in excessive steering wheel play.
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Just finished doing this on my E46 (2005 325ci). I'm no mechanic; the only other thing I have ever done to a car is change the front brakes and rotors. Your video gave me the knowledge and confidence to complete this job. Thank you.
The humming noise with the key on it is the ICV (Idle Air Control valve). Perfectly normal
pretty sure it's the fuel pump
@@Unavalivle i though it was the secondary water pump for heating, and you use it when filling up the coolant
@@Unavalivle Nope, not the fuel pump.
Thanks for good video. I have few comments what i think about that job. When i did that guibo for my car, it was possible to put that lower shaft even it has that black plastic guide 2-3 teeths off from center. You have to basicly go drive with car and see i it is in center. If not, then move it 1 teeth to other direction. Another top tip. It is really important after loosing bolts from guibo, center steering wheel and take keys away from lock so it is centered and locked.
Now steering wheel and airbag slip ring will not be damaged if it spins too much when changing guibo.
bought new bolts from bmw.. Price was 2-3 eur / 2 bolts,included new threadlock. t. Antti / E46 fanatics.
Thank you 50skid. You are the best. !!!!That play was driving me nuts on my car. Hope my repair goes has easy as yours.
Great how to video. Just what I needed. Thanks a bunch.
Your video made the process smooth for me. I turned the spline toward me so I could aligned it correctly the first time. The hint about the indent on the shaft is useful too. The irritating play of the steering is fixed. It was surprising to me that the little bit of play in the joint translates to so much movement in the steering wheel.
As always you have the best e46 repair videos online!
Mine was a hell of a lot harder to remove, but i live in Indiana and mine had more rust and corrosion.
Great videos, as a fellow E46 owner, your videos are a great source of info and super easy to follow so thank you :)
At the 1min mark, you turn the steering wheel with the ignition off, is this 'play' in the wheel not related to the steering lock?
Thanks again - ps. would love to a see a video of a PAS fluid flush/change - that's next on my list of preventative maintenance jobs :)
+Harm Singh Nah that wasn't the steering lock I was hitting--it was the giubo play. I'll put a PS flush video on the list!
+50sKid Thanks for confirming - was the steering lock active? My 330ci makes the same noises and I know theres a little bit of play in the wheel. Super handy, I've just ordered a new steering coupler/guibo after watching your video :)
I have a feeling if I continue watching your vids, my life is about to get a whole lot more expensive lol!
Haha. I don't think my lock was active. What you saw was the giubo play without the lock interfering
Is that a loose bolt sitting behind the wiring harness of the oil level sensor at 6:00 min?
aha looks like it is
Wow...my 330ci...same exact issue. Thanks for the great video
I'm ordering this part today, as mine is 17 years old and there's a slight vagueness/slack even after replacing both tie rods (inner and outer), but not harsh like you would expect with a worn rack. Thank you for a clear explanation and video!
Wow, amazing difference after replacing, steers like new! Thanks for the video
would this be a problem for a 2002 330xi, where can i get this part
Noise is the ICV vibrating backwards and forwards at a million miles an hour. I always thought they were open or closed but read a strip down review on one and its in motion. It's why cleaning them only lasts a little while, you need to oil the bearing inside too or just buy a new one. It'll throw the 'icv stuck open' code even though it seems to clack backwards and forwards easily. TLDR, it basically vibrates.
my 2001 325ci has the same wheel play and its really annoying while driving! is this part the steering coupler? or are they both different parts?
+JayVeTV The giubo IS the steering coupler.
Hey tank you for tge video very helpful but the problem that i have is every time and driving on a not even streed the car pulls to the side i replace arm bushings shocks brakes stering pump and the car steel have the same problem
Bmw will always have play in the driver side wheel and no play in passenger side . This will make you think your rack is gone
Would this be the cause of a clunk/pop/crack noise coming from the rack area when I jab the wheel from right to left, or going over bumps?
any update?
Can this be the rootcause of my Heavy steering? , I have oil in the reservoir . when I'm parking or sneaking on 1st gear the steering is hard like there's no servo. And the Wheel does not roll back after i steer like it should do
50skid you're amazing! The flex disc is actually a "giubo", pronounced "JEW-BO". Keep videos coming!
Great video. I am going to do this as well and just wanted to know if anyone has done this and after installation your steering wheel ends up misaligned? I read this somewhere and was curious to ask before doing this job
If it's misaligned that means you completely turned your steering rack 360 degrees... which, i dunno why you would do that. That's why there is the black alignment notch on it. You can't screw it up unless you turn it 360 around.
50sKid
Thanks my friend!! I just completed the replacement of the steering coupling and it was 100% successful!! Steering wheel is perfectly straight as it was before!!! Thank you 50sKid!!!!!
Hey, you should do a video on replacing the guibo on the driveshaft
Where can buy this part?
Is there a BMW part number or can you send me a link? thanks...
Would you recommend loctite Red high strength thread lock or loctite Blue Medium Strength?
+SpartanA31xx For the steering giubo? Neither is called for.
Will this kind of make my steering wheel rattle/clunk when driving on rough roads?
Do you need to align the steering after this replacement?
i know this is an old comment but for anybody else wondering, no you dont need an alignment
Love your vids, thanks a mill!!! Steering column question...I've got a click in my steering column close to the steering wheel. I've swapped the guibo, and the slip ring, neither of which turned out to be the issue. Still a light clicking, (appears even when slip ring is taken off) particulary when i turn the wheel slightly to the right. Forums only mention slipring and guibo. Any tips aside from swapping the entire column? Thanks again.
What do you mean slip ring? I've never heard of a part with that name. Is the clicking inside the car or outside in the engine bay closer to the steering rack? Does it click only when you are moving forward/back?
good day, did it also crack??
Would this be the same process for an 02 325xi? Great video btw!!
I'm not sure what kind of access there is on an xi. If you can get at it, it's the same process.
50sKid hey man my wheel actually squeeks Everytime I turn it do you think that could be the cause?
Nate Cameron I know it’s been 7 months but if you haven’t fixed it already it’s normally bad tie rods that cause the wheel to squeak like that
Hi my BMW X3 got vibration on 50 MPH , did four wheel balancing still same problem. Anyone could help me out from this problem
anyone know if this is doable on the E39??
Have you ever figured out that buzzing sound is (2:35)? I also hear that sound every time I turn off the car and wonder what it is. I thought it was coming somewhere close to the disa valve area.
It’s the idle air control valve. I dunno why but every car has that thing engaged when the ignition is on. So stupid
Does this help the smoothness in the steering from left to right steering? Mine is kinda stiff.
No, if your steering wheel is difficult to turn, I would think that your power steering pump is going or has gone bad and that is where your trouble lies.
e46's have very heavy steering
i believe that sound is the coolant heater under your air box...i believe
tango echo it's actually the idle air control valve. Eventually figured it out
Good video dude, I did it from the top. Definitely the hard way....
Changing mine (04 325ci vert) along with the front control arm bushings....hopefully it will fix the front end "floating" feeling. Next big project will be head gasket on the 06 330.....pray the head bolts haven't pulled the threads :/
Hey 50's kid. you've helped me a lot since I've been working on a neighbors e46, thank you. My question is can you also feel the play by rocking the front wheels side to side as well? Can you mistake this problem for bad tie rods? Thanks again.
It wouldn't rock as easily as tierods. You'd have to be moving it so hard that you're moving the steering rack in and out and then feeling the play in the giubo. Jack up the car, get under it and look at the giubo when moving the tire with your hand--visually rule it out. Same with the tie rods.
Gonna try this and see if it fixes my steering wheel play.
I purchased the part in your video for my bmw e46 325 2001. Just jacked the car up and had a look! The parts different. Are there 2 different styles? Cheers
Isn'that sound the secondary air pump?
Hello, my 325Ci E46 had the same problem, but it was both the steering box and the rubber joint, I replaced the box, the joint I modified it, I disassembled it and instead of rubber I built a shim on the lathe in aluminum.
I'm in the middle of this and I don't see any fin that slides into the slot like in your video. Am I missing something? There's definitely no metal tab that was slotted into the old coupler.
Thank you very much for this great instruction video. After the replacement of the joint all the play in stearing is gone. I cannot be greatful enough for this 😊
Thanks for the Video and I pretty happy with your videos about the e46, we'll done!!
+Erick Murigande Thanks!
Hi Kid, Does the car need to be on ramps or can it be on jackstands?
Doesn't matter.
Thanks. Putting it on Jack Stands allowed me to do it myself as the guibo/tires can easily be rotated from under the car. 30 min. job and the car now handles like a BMW again.
I think that buzzing when the key is in the on position is the heater core pump. I forgot where I learned that.
Air hammer it if it’s stuck
Hi man. Sorry so you have a link where I can find this piece?
02:35 "Has anybody figured our what that horrible sound is when you have the ignition on? With the car not on by the way. I really wish I knew what that was, so I can take a baseball bat to it." - Ask JFOJ on E46Fanatics, he will probably approve of your baseball bat idea, as your have a 2002 E46 electric fuel pump (under the rear seat) should have failed by now at beyond 166K... These can soft fail and can be another cause of your running lean on both banks codes too.
Did you get a DSC error from your steering angle sensor complaining about an implausible angle after moving the plastic guide so much? I did mine on a four poster ramp with all wheels on the ground and still ended up 30-40 deg out! I think it has to line up precisely with an alignment notch on the rack itself and mine moved whilst cleaning and then greasing the splines.
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Was selling my car. Around 500€ lower than others. People who came and look wanted an other 300 off for this problem. Fixing this next weekend! Thanks mate!
Great video! Do you recommend changing the screws of the coupler when replacing the coupler itself? Thanks!
+Anoush R I don't find it to be necessary.
+50sKid Thanks for the response! I ended up buying new bolts anyways (they were $1.50 each so why not) and changed my coupler two days ago. Your video helped a lot! Keep up the good work!
That sound with the ignition on is the water heater. Don't hit it with the bat😂. I have this play on my xi wish there was a video for this for the xi its guibo is different
Will my 2000 Z3 look about the same?
That noise is the computer fan I believe. It collects dust and can be serviced. Its under the steering wheel dash somewhere
Not dme computer but some electronics maybe the climate control
That looks easy to do. Where do you buy your parts? Dealer?
I almost always buy parts off eBay. Even if I want the OEM brand, the price is better on eBay. In the case of the guibo, only the oem part was available.
+50sKid that's where I find parts for my car. BEWARE. I've purchased a fan belt off eBay. Check for quality. The fan belt I bought said BMW on the belt it's self, but it felt plastic like and very light. I had it on my car for one month till it shredded to pieces that it took out my transmission hose that ran from the radiator to tran. Those parts I will buy at Autozone. They text to have better quality parts. eBay has been there for me. It was just that one part. My next project is my Suspensions,, coilovers that I will buy on eBay. J2
The brake master cylinder from autozone that I installed in a recent video is getting replaced by an oem unit because it keeps leaking. So, your mileage always varies with the aftermarket. That's why I want people to share their experiences with aftermarket brands. Thanks!
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Hey man I got myself a steering guibo, and I'm just wondering after I do this am I going to need an alignment ?
+SpartanA31xx Nah--the worst that would happen is your steering wheel would be "crooked" when traveling straight forward if you rotate the wheel or the rack once you have the steering shaft out of the giubo.
+50sKid okay thanks, so I should just keep the steering shaft metal and still as possible and make sure not to rotate it
SpartanA31xx You will have to put your key in the ignition and unlock the steering wheel to do the job, and you will have to rotate everything in order to orient the bolts facing downward so you can get them out. Important thing is, once you take the giubo off, just put the new one back on without rotating the steering wheel. You would have to rotate it 180 or 360 degrees to really screw it up, as the giubo is keyed. This is all in the video.
+50sKid okay so basically after I take off the screws I don't go back up to the top and turn the steering wheel at all, just leave it unlocked and out it on? correct, thanks in advance!
Yes
That noise is the fuel pump
I noticed that you turn the coupler and shaft; does this change the alignment of the steering wheel? did you lock your steering wheel before you did this?
dennisvl1 you can't mess up the alignment as there is a locating tang. Just don't turn it 360 degrees
it’s ur fuel pump - that sound
Wait, isn't this the Coupler, not the Guibo. I thought the Guibo is the thick, big (about 4" diameter) Rubber disk with the 3 holes for the bolts. What's on this video, I thought was just the Steering Coupler.
is it the ICV
Thank you.
The piece you changed produced vibrations at speeds between 80-120km, thanks in advance
Part nr?
HEY WASSUP? WHAT SIDE OF THE CAR AND WHERE EXACTLY IS THE PART LOCATED ON THE CAR I CANT TELL
On the driver's side. Your steering wheel is bolted onto a shaft, right? When you turn it, you are turning this shaft clockwise and counterclockwise. You can see this shaft if you look underneath the dash where your pedals are. So follow that shaft where it goes through the firewall, then go look under the car and you will see the steering rack and you'll see where the shaft connects to the steering rack and boom, you have found the part.
Sounds the electric water pump
Your final shot still seems to have lot of play. Heck, next time you have that Odyssey in for something, check its steering. I have sneaking suspicion that your will find that steering to be tighter than your Bimmer. Immediately after watching your video, I drove our 99 Odyssey and noticed "non-rubbery" steering.
Nice I'll have to do mine soon