On a personal note back in late 80’s we built a house in Lahore defense. In those days getting a phone connection was like asking for a divine miracle. After paying the real charges it finally came to the line man who actually was going to give the physical connection. Long story short he only asked for few hundred rupees and sensing my inquisitive nature told me that this money goes all the way to the top. According to him when his supervisor tells him to get two chickens he has to pay for it somehow. I moved abroad in early 90’s. Seem nothing much has changed in the land of the pure in 30 plus years. It breaks my heart.
@@mehmood020 it's been 3 decades since we moved back to Pakistan... My grand + elder generations both left this world and i have personally spent above 2 decades serving in govt organizations. As per my experience and analysis which is based upon my everyday observations; things will only change if there's some revolution or being a nation we will accept the fact that we desperately need to change our habits... Till then, matters will remain the same and nothing is gonna change, Mark my words, Sir!
@@mehmood020 brother I have been trying my best to do so, but more than 90% of my efforts went in vain... And the most common reason I came up with, we as a nation are willing to criticize everyone else out there but unwilling to start bringing the change from ourselves!
Just last month in October I visited Pakistan on my short 2 weeks vacation for buying a car. That was one of the frustrated process of my life I have gone through. I ended up staying upto a month till I found a genuine car as majority of sellers in Pakistan would cheat you in many ways....surprisingly the accidental cars itself would look so brand new that you would never imagine its actual history. People would hide and do everything to cheat you in many ways. May Allah give us all hidayet and change the mindset of people in our nation. Perhaps this is the only reason, we people are treated in entire different way abroad...
My sis got the car transferred by herself at Excise office, Ibd. The rules are written on the board and help desk and people guide the directions as well. She got it done in an hour by visiting all the offices, even when there was no separate line made for women. It's not as bad as projected. It's best to go to govt offices around 8-9am, as afterwards work pace goes slow and ppl start leaving their seats/office, which causes extra delay.
In some government offices it is even worse than it is projected, you cannot do anything on your own simple as that. You need a reference or you need to bribe people (so called service charges) Harsh reality!
@@mohsinkazmi7189 She was asked for "more pics of quaid" by a young man taking applications for car transfer prior to that week, which she refused to pay and chose to wait for the prescribed time period. Maybe men are more corrupt as they are controlling the finances and expect other men to oblige to their antics and pay them an "additional fee" to feed their own sham egos and haram tummies!
Vid started with negative aspect of the society and ended on a positive note with young guy and his business. I believe every society has it's own aspects. I pray one day all this system gets easier. There was a time when ID card, domicile etc were made the same way. Now with Nadra all of it is super easy and fast.
I don't know about transfer. But for new car in Punjab, car registered can be done at show room when you are getting delivery via online system "Dealer vehicle registration system". After 4 to 5 week you will get registration card and file and number plates. From dealership. It is very easy. Dealership done all the processing legally.
Congratulations! I like your way of describing the fact of corrupt system. Being an overseas Pakistani I dealt with most of the system from passport office NADRA Property Registration Muncipl Corporation to get approval for construction and police to file report for stolen vehicle, unfortunately there is not a single office you get access directly you have to pay ( bribe ) service fee and use your contacts to get things done! It doesn't matter if they are legit for illegal you pay a bit more.
I avoided it by using Citizen portal. Still contine with Zero Bribe policy. e.g while Installing solar I paid zero bribe/speed money and still got everything installed even before my mates who had paid the bribes.
Welcome to Naya pakistan..if u landed afew weeks bk..Or Welcome to Purana Pakistan.. Im also fr uk lastr 6 months herr in ISB.. Good life if u have income to feed ur lifestyle
Mashallah, you are an angel to be sharing such hard learned lessons for other's benefits. My experience in Pakistan has been that the bigger the price tag the greater the scam. It's quite opposite to the culture in law abiding countries. People who've lived in any of those law abiding countries have to go through similar frustrations when they try to purchase products and services inside Pakistan.
I buy slightly used (same year, 10,000km) car to save money on registration fees and drive it off the same day. I use that money for tuning, setting, seat covers and accessories
In view of the hastle and trouble a person faces to register his or her car in Islamabad Capital city, comparatively to register a car in Punjab is easy and also the car dealers can register your car just like Europe and Canada and USA, also many services are available on line on their website.
Man it all looks horrible. I am living in UAE and it takes less than 2 hours to purchase a car from company showroom and go home. It seems very painful to return to Pakistan one day.
The video was quite inspiring . Yes its absolutely right to say that off normal approach to do things in Pakistan is good and relaxing but have to care that things should be as per rule . i have also seen your vedio on Netmetering and solar panneling . That was good also .
I don't know about rawalpindi or their car transfer system but in Lahore i changed like 10 cars and getting it transferred is as easy as abc. You have to hire nobody. Just took your file and letter, go to desk and they will charge and transfer it and file came to you home.
And here comes the Reality that we can't change the system in Pakistan. Being an overseas we are really much committed that we will change the pakistan but the reality is what we can see in this video..... Hopefully soon we will have the better Pakistan. I really appreciate your efforts man that you are documenting and highlighting these issues.
Nice video 👍 I also had my worst experience when registering my motor vehicle from excise department. I did all steps myself and didn't get anything happening during this process. They were sending me to multiple places for things that doesn't make any sense.
Great video guiding about the issues of buying a car and registering a car in Pakistan ❤ Only if we could have a one window operation in registering a car
It's a very sad state of affairs that illegal enterprises are facilitated by banks and other legitimate businesses in Pakistan. Also, our Government should learn to stream line it's various departments and facilitate it's citizens. On a positive note, we should promote and encourage young entrepreneurs so that they can be contributing members in society. Congratulations Owais for Yaris.
Same experience in passport office karachi Subah 8 bje se line men lgne k baad bhi 3 se 4 bje tk jakr kaam hwa Or agr ksi agent ko 2 3 hazar de deta to 1 se 2 hours men kaam go jata
What a sad state of affairs bro, here in NZ i bought a used car, paid the guy on spot via mobile banking and got the car, he just had to email to the relevant department that he sold the car to me with my address (no documents needed whatsoever) and in 3 days my ownership document came in mail. Same process can be done by buyer and seller by going to post office in under 5 minutes.
Brilliant vlog show the real culture process and truth of the system ….no matter which south Asian county you visit it’s entirely the same difficult n process …
Bhai may nay Austria may 600 euro pay gare khareda tha Jo cycle say sasta parta hay hamare Pakistan may log gare to keya do waqt k Kane ko nahe pora kar sakte
I'm now sharing my own experience in Pakistan 🇵🇰. Me apna Domicile banway ke liay kechary gia or wahan mujy isy tara banda mila or us ne muj se 1 amount charge ki or 5 minutes me domicile ki file tayar.
I was expecting you to show us how to by a car of our dream, by putting a small deposit followed by a manageable monthly payments. Anyway, this was helpful & educating video.
Best and heartening part of your video was the end . As always great video. May Allah keep the young entrepreneur on the right path, Ameen. Having said that this is plain old extortion. A country of 220 million, well every one needs to make a ‘ living’. How legit it is , well that’s an open question. Sadly in ignorance, we use the same tactics to fix our aakhiraa . We never get tired of saying Alhamdulillah in every other sentence! This is height of hypocrisy or munafiqat. Only He knows the real situation and hopefully we are guided. But keep on the good work aur apnaa daaman bachaa k rakhain. May Allah forgive us.
Great job Owais and keep it up. 👍👏👌Being an overseas Pakistani I also get fed-up of over complicated processes here which promote Rishwat culture and also add to our Khwari and the hassle n waste of time. Everything in Overseas is so easy and based on your rights
Also watched ur wife’s channel’s diapers video n subscribed to both of you. Same diaper issues and the hunt for the best money for value diaper. We try to stuff in as many in our luggage but eventually they end up n have to buy them here. Anyways Kudos to both of you. Allah khush rkhy aap ki family ko 🤲
Mainy 2.5 months pehly alto book karwayi thi and tentative delivery 9 dec hai but abhi bhi koi pata nahi kay December main deliver hogi ya nahi next time main bhi own par hi buy karu ga jo bhi car buy karni huwi Congratulations 🎉💖
Only solution to all this corrupt practices is a complete digitization of the system. And I am seeing major changes coming our way. Now I don't have to pay vehicle token tax by going in a post office etc, just online and that's it. Just applied renewel of my CNIC online. So things are moving forward despite obstructions created by Mafias.
After shortlisting proton saga on highest safety standards you bought the lowest safety standard car, Car manufacture monopoly can't be broken by public unless govt would play its role
Sorry to say but these people outside excuse office are entertained by us ourselves. When you don't even enter the office, how would you know that what is the procedure. There is first counter, from where you can get information about procedure maybe not in the most pleasant way but still they tell you which counter to go. And you have to move to counters number wise, There is obviously some labour involved, like standing in queue, filling in the forms. But the process takes 1-1.5 hr. I've done registration/transfer of my vehicles from excise office islamabad multiple times and went there during my office hours by taking short leave. It is a bit of a hastle for an overseas Pakistani, but not impossible. The only thing you need is to do some effort and dig out things yourself and most importantly give shut up call to those touts. On the other hand, your experience about own mafia is totally right.
On a personal note back in late 80’s we built a house in Lahore defense. In those days getting a phone connection was like asking for a divine miracle. After paying the real charges it finally came to the line man who actually was going to give the physical connection. Long story short he only asked for few hundred rupees and sensing my inquisitive nature told me that this money goes all the way to the top. According to him when his supervisor tells him to get two chickens he has to pay for it somehow. I moved abroad in early 90’s. Seem nothing much has changed in the land of the pure in 30 plus years. It breaks my heart.
Don't worry soon we will see better situation in Pakistan.
Seeing Owais’s experience, I am not holding my breath. I guess there is always hope.
@@mehmood020 it's been 3 decades since we moved back to Pakistan... My grand + elder generations both left this world and i have personally spent above 2 decades serving in govt organizations. As per my experience and analysis which is based upon my everyday observations; things will only change if there's some revolution or being a nation we will accept the fact that we desperately need to change our habits... Till then, matters will remain the same and nothing is gonna change, Mark my words, Sir!
@@xeeshaan786 I agreed and we will change the situation.we are common people.
@@mehmood020 brother I have been trying my best to do so, but more than 90% of my efforts went in vain... And the most common reason I came up with, we as a nation are willing to criticize everyone else out there but unwilling to start bringing the change from ourselves!
Just last month in October I visited Pakistan on my short 2 weeks vacation for buying a car. That was one of the frustrated process of my life I have gone through. I ended up staying upto a month till I found a genuine car as majority of sellers in Pakistan would cheat you in many ways....surprisingly the accidental cars itself would look so brand new that you would never imagine its actual history. People would hide and do everything to cheat you in many ways. May Allah give us all hidayet and change the mindset of people in our nation. Perhaps this is the only reason, we people are treated in entire different way abroad...
Thank you for sharing real time experiences . Your vlogs look very well thoughtful, well researched and to the point . May you progress Godspeed 🙌🏻
Thank you
@@syedowaisali love you
Whenever i am planning to move to pakistan a random video suggestion from your channel comes ... Then i choose to stay where i am already.
My sis got the car transferred by herself at Excise office, Ibd. The rules are written on the board and help desk and people guide the directions as well. She got it done in an hour by visiting all the offices, even when there was no separate line made for women. It's not as bad as projected. It's best to go to govt offices around 8-9am, as afterwards work pace goes slow and ppl start leaving their seats/office, which causes extra delay.
In some government offices it is even worse than it is projected, you cannot do anything on your own simple as that. You need a reference or you need to bribe people (so called service charges) Harsh reality!
Islamabad excise is one of the better departments if u can go early in the morning. Max 45-60 mins ans u are done with the registration or transfer
@@mohsinkazmi7189 She was asked for "more pics of quaid" by a young man taking applications for car transfer prior to that week, which she refused to pay and chose to wait for the prescribed time period. Maybe men are more corrupt as they are controlling the finances and expect other men to oblige to their antics and pay them an "additional fee" to feed their own sham egos and haram tummies!
Vid started with negative aspect of the society and ended on a positive note with young guy and his business. I believe every society has it's own aspects. I pray one day all this system gets easier. There was a time when ID card, domicile etc were made the same way. Now with Nadra all of it is super easy and fast.
I don't know about transfer. But for new car in Punjab, car registered can be done at show room when you are getting delivery via online system "Dealer vehicle registration system". After 4 to 5 week you will get registration card and file and number plates. From dealership. It is very easy. Dealership done all the processing legally.
Congratulations!
I like your way of describing the fact of corrupt system. Being an overseas Pakistani I dealt with most of the system from passport office NADRA Property Registration Muncipl Corporation to get approval for construction and police to file report for stolen vehicle, unfortunately there is not a single office you get access directly you have to pay ( bribe ) service fee and use your contacts to get things done!
It doesn't matter if they are legit for illegal you pay a bit more.
I avoided it by using Citizen portal. Still contine with Zero Bribe policy. e.g while Installing solar I paid zero bribe/speed money and still got everything installed even before my mates who had paid the bribes.
Such a pleasant addition to Pakistani vloggers! Masha Allah Tabarak Allah!
Thank you
You speak bitter straightforwardly, man.
May Allah have mery on us.
I am your fan, sir. JAZAKALLAH
You are spreading awareness and hope👍thank you Owais bhai for doing such a great work
So finally you also paid the own money. There is a saying DO IN ROME AS ROMANS DO. nice and worthy video to watch
Owais Bhai I am at present in U.K and in the process of migrating to Pakistan. Your videos to me are very helpful and I have learnt a lot by it.
Welcome to Naya pakistan..if u landed afew weeks bk..Or Welcome to Purana Pakistan..
Im also fr uk lastr 6 months herr in ISB..
Good life if u have income to feed ur lifestyle
ماشاءالله بھائ جی bohat der bad video ap.nay lagi hai
Mashallah, you are an angel to be sharing such hard learned lessons for other's benefits. My experience in Pakistan has been that the bigger the price tag the greater the scam. It's quite opposite to the culture in law abiding countries. People who've lived in any of those law abiding countries have to go through similar frustrations when they try to purchase products and services inside Pakistan.
ماشاءاللّه kaafi achi video bnaayi, behtreen storytelling and perfect cinematics and drone shots and vibrant colors 😍😍😍
Congratulations! You were lucky to purchase just before price hike.
Did Proton Pakistan respond to your legal notice?
I love how you show the real picture of Pakistan. All the unethical things we are forced to do because the system is unnecessarily overcomplicated.
I buy slightly used (same year, 10,000km) car to save money on registration fees and drive it off the same day.
I use that money for tuning, setting, seat covers and accessories
By seeing your video, I feel sometype of special comfort. I have seen your solar panel video. I have spent some time in Germany.
Nice video it's would good if you could explain the type of coating on car what its benefit and how much it's cost
Good detailing job, price was right..20% discount is a good value for money
In view of the hastle and trouble a person faces to register his or her car in Islamabad Capital city, comparatively to register a car in Punjab is easy and also the car dealers can register your car just like Europe and Canada and USA, also many services are available on line on their website.
Bro I,m live in Dubai when I buy a car since two month ago transfer procedure just two minte and( I.d) deliver after 5 days
thumbs up to the detailing guy👏🏻💯👍🏻 May Allah bless you with immense success and rizq. inspiring
Man it all looks horrible. I am living in UAE and it takes less than 2 hours to purchase a car from company showroom and go home. It seems very painful to return to Pakistan one day.
It's not only your thought, any person living his life by the rules would say that whether living inside or outside this country... Sad but true
Don't return
Will definitely visit SPARCO on next Saturday with your reference. Thanks
Congratulations 😘 thank you for making this kind of video
Thank you
@@syedowaisali pleasure
kudos owais very informative video 👍🏼
The video was quite inspiring . Yes its absolutely right to say that off normal approach to do things in Pakistan is good and relaxing but have to care that things should be as per rule .
i have also seen your vedio on Netmetering and solar panneling . That was good also .
Thank you
Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences. Did you cancelled your saga's booking.
very informative, thanks alot brother for sharing your experience!
very informative as always; but; one question; after all the effor why you havent bought Saga from this Market, why you went for Yaris
Very informative videos especially for oversees people, am one of them. Thanks awais.
I don't know about rawalpindi or their car transfer system but in Lahore i changed like 10 cars and getting it transferred is as easy as abc. You have to hire nobody. Just took your file and letter, go to desk and they will charge and transfer it and file came to you home.
Please make a video on converting a middle east driving licence to Pakistani driving licence. If you have come through with that experience.
Vehicle transfer in punjab is much smooth, just took 5 mins to complete the process.
And here comes the Reality that we can't change the system in Pakistan. Being an overseas we are really much committed that we will change the pakistan but the reality is what we can see in this video.....
Hopefully soon we will have the better Pakistan.
I really appreciate your efforts man that you are documenting and highlighting these issues.
Nice video 👍 I also had my worst experience when registering my motor vehicle from excise department. I did all steps myself and didn't get anything happening during this process. They were sending me to multiple places for things that doesn't make any sense.
MashaAllah, Congratulations. BTW what detailing work have been done on ur car
The story of Gufran's business is inspiring!
Great video guiding about the issues of buying a car and registering a car in Pakistan ❤
Only if we could have a one window operation in registering a car
That's the most Pakistani video ever 😂
Thank you Owais Bhai for sharing your experience.
You've covered it very well. Impressive stuff. 👍
You could have done car registeration thru Nadra door step registration.
The essence of of Video is " YA SAB JAN BOOJ KAR KIA HOOAA HAI".
salam brother 2 ton
ac
میں کونسا اے سی اچھا ھے آپ مجھے ایڈوائس دیجئے
It's a very sad state of affairs that illegal enterprises are facilitated by banks and other legitimate businesses in Pakistan. Also, our Government should learn to stream line it's various departments and facilitate it's citizens. On a positive note, we should promote and encourage young entrepreneurs so that they can be contributing members in society. Congratulations Owais for Yaris.
Same experience in passport office karachi
Subah 8 bje se line men lgne k baad bhi 3 se 4 bje tk jakr kaam hwa
Or agr ksi agent ko 2 3 hazar de deta to 1 se 2 hours men kaam go jata
What a sad state of affairs bro, here in NZ i bought a used car, paid the guy on spot via mobile banking and got the car, he just had to email to the relevant department that he sold the car to me with my address (no documents needed whatsoever) and in 3 days my ownership document came in mail.
Same process can be done by buyer and seller by going to post office in under 5 minutes.
Brilliant vlog show the real culture process and truth of the system ….no matter which south Asian county you visit it’s entirely the same difficult n process …
Bhai may nay Austria may 600 euro pay gare khareda tha Jo cycle say sasta parta hay hamare Pakistan may log gare to keya do waqt k Kane ko nahe pora kar sakte
Ceremic coating ki kiya zarorat ha bro enjoy your white car
Ab us saga ka kya banega jisko aapne book karwaya hua tha?
I'm now sharing my own experience in Pakistan 🇵🇰.
Me apna Domicile banway ke liay kechary gia or wahan mujy isy tara banda mila or us ne muj se 1 amount charge ki or 5 minutes me domicile ki file tayar.
How much own money u paid extra than original car price?
Kitnay ki pari Toyota Yaris? you didn't mention about model and specs of car? pls reply.
Bhai kia aap guide karo ga key Vlogs sey kitni earning ho jaati hai. Mera bhi khaial hai Pakistan settled hoony ka. Shukria
congratulations for the new car mashallah
Excellent video. Haven't found such information online so far.
I was expecting you to show us how to by a car of our dream, by putting a small deposit followed by a manageable monthly payments. Anyway, this was helpful & educating video.
Chalo shukar hay aap ko gari mil he gai at last u succeeded in buying a new car
What about that Alsvin???
Best and heartening part of your video was the end . As always great video. May Allah keep the young entrepreneur on the right path, Ameen. Having said that this is plain old extortion. A country of 220 million, well every one needs to make a ‘ living’. How legit it is , well that’s an open question. Sadly in ignorance, we use the same tactics to fix our aakhiraa . We never get tired of saying Alhamdulillah in every other sentence! This is height of hypocrisy or munafiqat. Only He knows the real situation and hopefully we are guided. But keep on the good work aur apnaa daaman bachaa k rakhain. May Allah forgive us.
Very good job brother...feel happy for you...
Really a nice informative video. What about ur Proton booking. did u get back money.
zabrdast vlog and very informative, exposing mafia and dark side of govt. procedures.
Bhaijaan main Saudi Arab mein hoon mujhe ek plot lena hay Islamabad main kya aap Meri madad kar sakte ho
Khud aa kar leijiye ga… kisi par bharosa nahi karna.
Just curious, why did you not buy Changan Alsvin? You were interested in it in one of your vids vs proton saga
Great job Owais and keep it up. 👍👏👌Being an overseas Pakistani I also get fed-up of over complicated processes here which promote Rishwat culture and also add to our Khwari and the hassle n waste of time. Everything in Overseas is so easy and based on your rights
Also watched ur wife’s channel’s diapers video n subscribed to both of you. Same diaper issues and the hunt for the best money for value diaper. We try to stuff in as many in our luggage but eventually they end up n have to buy them here. Anyways Kudos to both of you. Allah khush rkhy aap ki family ko 🤲
Owais bhai kamal ki information kamal ki car or kamal ki video 👌👌👌👌
Kia stonic ai hai 2 din baad delivery start ho gai full pymnt kry tu ap ko jaldi delivery milti hai
Please tell break down of all financial information!! Cost + own + all other costs
Hey please make a video regarding tax filing for overseas pakistanis
مبروووك يا حبيبي. بارك الله فيك
Speed money works and it works well in all Govt dept
As overseas Pakistani, I need one stop shop! and I agree with you Owais, I am sure they have installment options as well?
Your lens has a spot on it on your shirt
14:40 Yes, you can get a new smart card but it’ll be duplicate so it depreciates the value of your vehicle.
Sir ap ne Gari jaha se li ha un ka koi number ya address ager ho sake to share ker dain.
Mainy 2.5 months pehly alto book karwayi thi and tentative delivery 9 dec hai but abhi bhi koi pata nahi kay December main deliver hogi ya nahi next time main bhi own par hi buy karu ga jo bhi car buy karni huwi
Congratulations 🎉💖
Bro jahan tk mughe lg raha haii aapne apni proton bhi (ON) pr hi beechni hai you are part of mafia now
how much fee did you pay to agent for registration ?
Can u tell the amount of the premium u paid for ur car and the amount u gave to the guy who gave u service for transfer of car?
even trailer mil jayn gy? :D
Congrats bro for having a new car. I am just curious about outcome of your legal notice sent to Al Haj group.
Sirf Nano ceramic coating ke charges kitnay hotay hain?
Which place in i 8?
Bro welcome to Pakistan (Islami Jamuria Pakistan)
Mabrook for your car & to forcefully adopt unlawful process. So sad to hear how Legal process is made so complicated in our country.
agr complicate na kary to mafia kesy apna pait baray ga?
Yaris per koi own nahi ha. Bhai 4 to 6 weeks delivery time per ready mill gayi ha Yaris
Only solution to all this corrupt practices is a complete digitization of the system. And I am seeing major changes coming our way. Now I don't have to pay vehicle token tax by going in a post office etc, just online and that's it. Just applied renewel of my CNIC online. So things are moving forward despite obstructions created by Mafias.
At least, the registration process at the Excise office should be user-friendly like the NADRA do.
CONGRATULATIONS ♥︎
Very frustrating indeed, Proton Kahan gayee?
After shortlisting proton saga on highest safety standards you bought the lowest safety standard car,
Car manufacture monopoly can't be broken by public unless govt would play its role
Bahi showroom waly ko wahin kuch pesy dydyty to aap ko ghr bethy bethy hi kam hojata yes had to pay premium for this also
Thank you for sharing your experience
Owais bhai you can show us some new categories business in Pakistan 🇵🇰congrats 👏😀on new car
Sorry to say but these people outside excuse office are entertained by us ourselves. When you don't even enter the office, how would you know that what is the procedure. There is first counter, from where you can get information about procedure maybe not in the most pleasant way but still they tell you which counter to go. And you have to move to counters number wise, There is obviously some labour involved, like standing in queue, filling in the forms. But the process takes 1-1.5 hr. I've done registration/transfer of my vehicles from excise office islamabad multiple times and went there during my office hours by taking short leave. It is a bit of a hastle for an overseas Pakistani, but not impossible. The only thing you need is to do some effort and dig out things yourself and most importantly give shut up call to those touts. On the other hand, your experience about own mafia is totally right.