The Most Hated Philosopher. Philosophy in its Greatest Quotes.
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- Baruch Spinoza had one idea that nobody was ready for in his time: that we are all God.
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It's just fascinating how different cultures view and react to the same ideas. Poor Spinoza suffered endless persecution for proclaiming that we are all God, whereas among Hindus this idea was old hat and almost universally accepted since the time of the _Upanishads._
If you want to further enhance about the philosophy which he was talking about just search Swami sarvapriya anda" who am i" a hindu Vedanta scholar.
This is basically Advaita Vedanta philosophy teaches you but in way more depth analysis.
But both have a different god in mind ... That you have to keep in mind..... And it's sad that hindus abandoned that philosophy.... Because of it's simplicity... Because everyone wanted some fantasy instead of finding simple truth
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Tat tvam asi = Thou Art That for Spinoza.
@@harshkumar2473 I didn't realise Hindus abandoned that philosophy. So what do they believe in now instead?
I can't imagine a better recommendation for a philosopher's credibility than to be excommunicated.
“He thought that the world was rational.”
I think I have an idea of why everything went wrong for him…
We work on impulses. Even if we believe 'we are all God and same" we still gonna harm others for our selfish desires. At least that's what Evolution wants us to do.
Even if such a God exists reality is ultimately meaningless if he can't solve sufferings. May be that's why Buddha asked us to stop thinking about Supernatural and focus on the Here And Now. No meaning is needed in Life to be happy, what's necessary is acceptance of present moment.
We all came from one source, the Big Bang, so we all have a similar dna, fron a mushroom to a human
@@garyp1432 Similar on a grand fundamental scale, but couldn't be more different from an analaytical, scientific perspective. It sounds paradoxical but it really isn't.
@@garyp1432 Daily Philosophy is inserting his Nietzsche hit the nail on the head with his will to power hypothesis, and Spinoza is right about creator and creation; spirit and matter, being necessarily one and the same. That said, we are not "all the same". No two people are exactly the same.
@@playmobilegamescodmThis just goes to show how poorly you understand this concept. Or maybe I don't understand what you are trying to say 🤷♂️
if he was born in India and claimed that "We are all gods", he would have been considered "enlightened" as many enlightened individuals of our country have made that declaration
How enlighted are those people? Where is their wisdom, where are their fruits? Have they changed the world? Have they changed indias cast system or protected the indian people from the numerous quacks?
@@fickgooglefickthem6884 It's not an enlightened person's duty to change the world. They only heed to the deep questions in life. They are not social workers. They are truth speakers who speak about the ultimate truth of non duality. Also we Indians don't need any protection, like any other nation, we have our flaws. Recognising them is the first step to solving them and we are on our way .
@István Sipos One must start with the 'I'. The I is what is mysterious, says Wittgenstein. The "testable claim" for 'I' is embedded in the theory of relativity, and the Doppler effect. It is also at the heart of phenomenological perspective, the main example of which is optical perspective. Until Brunelleschi in 1416 and thereabouts people could not see what they were seeing: that parellel lines converge in the distance. This was due to ignoring the fact of 'I', and to the domination of the allocentric object-to-object frame of view, or way of seeing. When the 'I' is established as the centre of the epistemic world, the entire nature of the world changes. The 'I' is not the thinking ego. When the nature of the witness is established, so is the dream-like photocognitive nature of everyday, otherwise normal, reality. Wittgenstein covers this in the latter parts of Tractatus (1922). He notes that the I shrinks to zero and pure realism coordinates with it. In variations on a theme this is represented in Taoism, Zen, Vedanta etc. The state of understanding this is called magic even by the great existential atheist Jean Paul Sartre, in his essay on a theory of emotion. God and the angels have to do not with 'things' but modes or states of 'being in the world'. How to know this? For some of us it required a great struggle to consolidate our childhood clarity. For others it comes by accident and yet others they never lose it in the first place.
In South India and once upon a time all over the world the "mind" was the heart. Hsin in Chinese. Sinn in German (for sense). Manas in Sanskrit, Tamil, Pali etc. Latin: Mens rea in law refers to "state of mind". Mens from.manas is feeling. Conscience, empathy the texture and tone of quality. common sense. Mind in the head is quantity, to with objects, things. Etc. The psychological heart has to do with process, and the big picture. The psychological heart is the axle of consciousness, will, intention, intuition and so on. Sadly in this aggressively "educated" age people are unaware of their own deeper self.
...spinoza was rejected and rightly so, India....omg...never going back
It is also worth knowing the rumor about Spinoza that he played cards well and sometimes beat drunks in the bar. With what he won, he bought everyone a beer. People liked him a lot.
" I believe in Spinoza's god" Einstein
This man has influenced my thinking. I majored in Philosophy. I begged my Dean at my university to take a graduate course in Spinoza, as an undergrad. I got the course.
That's great. Although one must say that it's not much fun to read the Ethics itself.
@@dailyphilosophy My professor, Dr. Joel Friedman, took all the premises, corollaries, and axioms and made a chart connecting all the arguments. It was tedious work but I enjoyed learning these ideas. I had to refer to Aristotle's Metaphysics, the Kabbala, Latin, and Euclid to understand the terms. Substance is self causing blew my mind. Spinoza's breakdown of emotions, modes and attributes took some heavy thinking. Overall, Spinoza influenced my thinking and challenged many of my religious conceptions. I also realized that he was a man of courage, especially when he was confronted by a mob, during political upheavals in the Netherlands.
@@albertogutierrez8653 That sounds like a wonderful project. Has it been published anywhere? I'd love to have a look.
@@dailyphilosophy Wow! This brings back a lot of memories. I had the graph blown up and expanded. I have framed since then. I will go through my professor's body of work and locate that graph.
@@albertogutierrez8653 That would be brilliant, thanks! I'm teaching a class that includes Spinoza, so your graph would be put to good use and help educate a new generation.
A man before and after his time.
Nah brother may be he was ahead in time for European philosopher.
If you want to further enhance about the philosophy which he was talking about just search Swami sarvapriya anda" who am i" a hindu Vedanta scholar.
This is basically Advaita Vedanta philosophy teaches you but in way more depth analysis.
@@sanjaiyadav2080
There was no philosophy in India in those ancient times. Sure there were many texts, and many scholars, but in India philosophical thought never rise above religious thought because of the influence of religion, or religions. European philosophy was way, way ahead of everything, in fact, philosophy was born in Europe... That is explained in Hegel's History of Philosophy.
Not really, this video is not telling you the whole story. Frederick Nietzsche ended up hating Spinoza also.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 this is got to be one of the most ignorant statements I have come across in the comments sections of a TH-cam video.
@@grosbeak6130 Why are you telling that to me? You think I care what you think? I spent 6 years at the university and I am a professor. You think that you will achieve something by using an ad hominem, insult addressed to me? I don't care for such things, that insult speaks about you, that you are incapable of making civilized dialogue, the first thing that one should learn if one aspires to be a professor of philosophy or even a good amateur.
You are wasting my time, and shaming yourself... As one famous man said, the educated and ignorant are not problematic, the semieducated are problematic and boring.
What we see in others is recognition of what we see inside ourselves
Go back to sleep.
True, Carl Jung. Everyone is your mirror...
@@limitlessfelh1109 just because Carl Jung said it, it's true? 😆 Stop depending on what others say, or just go back to sleep.
@@grosbeak6130 🤔 but others are really me
@@grosbeak6130 yes
Whenever I begin new notebook or journal, the first thing I write in it: "All excellent things are as difficult as they are rare." Spinoza The metaphor of the unseen connections of the fruiting bodies of the mushrooms expresses the concept so well. Thanks for your work.
Thank you for your kind words!
That Spinoza quote got stuck in my head,too. Thanks!
Good idea.
In Hinduism ,this concept of we all are god is called Aham Bhrahasmi.
That is also why Abraham of the Christian Holy Bible, Abraham started breaking the Idols, because it is all God and the Idols take away from the belief in the Living God.
@@SW-ii5gg No it isn't 😂
@@noracola5285 argue with yourself all you want.
@@SW-ii5gg we are all gods there is no god outside of us
@@blackswan5034" I Am you and you are me and we are one and we are all together "
Thanks for watching! I'm still learning how to improve these videos, so I'm grateful for constructive comments.
You’re doing a fine job, thank you
His other book was also brilliant in which he pulled religion apart
@@liamonconlocha4898 Thanks a lot for your encouraging words!
Very interesting. As a Christian, I arguably see things from a Panentheist view rather than a pantheist view. How about yourself?
Thanks this was such a great video
I remember reading meditations of Marcus Aurelius and how he says that we should live in accordance with nature.
I didn’t really understood what that means, and my atheist ass was resistant to the idea.
But this makes so much sense
Yes, we must already have a natural inclination to live in accordance with the rest of nature. But somewhere along the line, human beings have deviated somewhat from that natural path. One might argue that we are now beginning to suffer as a result of this deviation.
Thank you for your comments! It's not only now, I think. There have been published multiple "ecological histories of the world" in recent years, which make clear that even in ancient times civilisations collapsed because they kept destroying the environments they lived in. If you go to Greece today, it's all rocky mountains without any trees. This is, in large part, due to deforestation that began in the 5th century BC when Athens built its fleet to create its maritime empire. The British did the same with their trees and the forests of Ireland, which now is among the least forested European countries -- because of the Empire's fleet of wooden ships. But humans learn very slowly, it seems, and our immediate interest always seems to trump our long-term needs.
This isn't meant to be mean, how can you not immediately understand it? It's, you know, pretty self evident?
Even if I disagree with him on that, Marcus Aurelius' greatest contribution for me, is the popularisation of pronoia.
We shouldn't live by, or with nature. Only as all other animals do, they don't have a special care for nature. They simply try to survive it.
@@BygoneT But isn't the problem that our rationality has made us too good at surviving? Other animal populations are naturally kept low and balanced by predators and scarce resources. We alone have managed to use our monkey brains to overcome these limitations, and now we're stuck in a situation where it's on us to care for nature and every other life form. It was different in Marcus' time, when Europe had one or two million people on it. Now it's half a billion, depending on how one defines Europe. I don't think we can escape our responsibility and say, let's go back to the state of natural innocence. We've lost that long ago.
@@dailyphilosophy Eh I don't know man. Apologies for the long ish comment, I included a practical, real example.
Are tigers inconvenienced by the virtually uncontested dominance over their environment? I don't think so.
In parallel we have always, as far as my modest public school education has let me understand, tried to find ways to overcome the harshness of survival.
When chasing after animals as hunter gatherers became a bit of a problem, or maybe we just gave it a try and got hooked, we became a species concerned over territory and farmland. We developed hierarchical structures stronger than before to hold the new world we were trying to build. When water was inconvenient to reach, we found ways to take it to us without holding it in buckets.
And at the same time, tried to solve the problems of having a mind that works independently from us, but with us.
Until we managed to stave off the elements, hunger, infant mortality, superstition, bad hygiene, and got to where we are today.
See, animals will do whatever they want. For them, every day is survival. They are not idiots, but to make an example, in Italy, wolves were quite literally going extinct some 15 years ago. This resulted in deers making trouble for the locals. The cause? Bears. Bears killed too many wolves, coupled with hunting as a traditional sport (Even if much less problematic and frequent in those years), this posed a problem for wild wolves. So, wolves were imported and now there is a new strain of wolves over there.
Nature appears to be in balance, but it isn't. Balance is in existence, as proven by some forces being described perfectly in mathematics, but not in an existential sense. Life doesn't balance out.
Life preys on other life to survive.
It might look like balance, but for the species going at it, it's brute force overpowering another existence. Balance is something we only derive out of looking at it from above, but we don't see bad things happening to us as balance, well, some do. But usually they have issues.
Sometimes, animals go overboard and make other species go extinct. Only we, maybe because we can afford the moral considerations, want to undertake something such as conservation of life.
In my opinion, the biggest problem for us, is an exponential increase in freedom we couldn't begin to comprehend what to do with, since we are busy living in the boxes we built ourselves. Soon enough, we will be able to decide things we refuse to consider, except for a few experts.
We always, without exception, step into territory that could be scouted and then develop into chaos ourselves.
What happens when we can decide whether or not a child can have down's syndrome? Or look a certain way from genes? Have an ai wife/husband? Child? Or the biggest elephant thanks to Elon musk, interplanetary diplomacy and war?
It’s amazing how institutional religion, hates ideas, that are outside their box. Spioza’s theory touches me. My being is filled by good company, or being as close to nature as possible.
Defined sacred places, are only special, in they are important to others.
“Few men think; yet all have opinions.” - *Bishop George Berkeley*
He was absolutely ahead of his time! We know that we are a carbon-based life, but what's fascinating is that another 2 huge transformations had to happen to give rise to this: first is the universe cooling down just enough after the big bang to form the first hydrogen atoms, second is those hydrogen gas clouds collapsing together to form stars that will create carbon atoms which will one day land on this very planet to start that carbon based life. Which of course itself had to go through many iterations too, we call that biological evolution, but the entire universe has been evolving, we are just a part of that on going process.
It's amazing to me that we got to figure out this process, like a cog in a complex machine gaining awareness and realizing the machine's existence and its place in it. It's no wonder then that people panicked so much as his philosophies (and many still do), it's a moment of existential dread for the cog, but I think it will pass and with the generations we will learn to appreciate and love this universe that is as much a part of us as we are a part of it.
It's all very fascinating iterations of the same fundamental building blocks moving from one form to another. In that way when we die, we simply return our borrowed atoms to the universe much like the dead stars that gave us those atoms did. Spinoza would have loved our current knowledge of astrophysics, cosmology, and biology. No wonder Einstein referred to his ideas, it's the closest to our current scientific understanding of the world we live in. He truly was before his time. May your atoms be part of future stars and worlds Spinoza.
Edit: this got long can you guess how much I'm excited for this xD
But I have to add: you see iterations and change in everything, the entire earth surface is an ever changing thing, mountains rise and erode away, tectonic plates ever moving form continents only to break and reform them again, the climate changes from ice ages to temperate back and forth, and so on, it's like earth itself is alive. It's a never-ending process, and should it ever end we would consider earth as dead as Mars. It's just that we are really short lived compared to these processes so we can't see them happen in real time, and yet we are smart enough to look for clues and figure out what happened in our absence!
I truly don't understand why some people think of science as some cold detached thing, what's more awe-inspiring and mesmerizing than a piece of the universe to arise in a tiny interlude after billions of years of cosmic evolution to look back at it all and ask in wonder "how?". I wish I could live forever to witness it all unfold, but I am honored and joyful that I got a chance to wonder at it all. To me this is the highest spiritual experience that one can feel.
Thank you for this wonderful, poetic comment. The connection to Einstein is particularly interesting. Unfortunately, our modern, technological ways of life tend to separate us more and more from nature, rather than making us feel a part of it. And as the climate effects get worse, our governments respond with more technological solutions rather than addressing the root of the problem. On the other hand, all the wonderful people who have watched and commented on this video are a reason for hope. We can still change things and try to live more sustainably.
@@dailyphilosophy aww I edited my comment and lost your like badge thingy :(. Yes, sustainability and the spread of misinformation and pseudoscience are major problems of our age, but I do believe we will overcome this as we overcame many of our own problems in the past. After all had Spinoza wrote his books today they wouldn't be burned, and many would have celebrated him during his life, and he wouldn't have died so early from the work he did. We overcame that kind of ignorance, and I am hopeful that we will overcome the kinds of ignorance we deal with in this age too. We are growing and learning as humanity.
Well said.
This is a true philosophy.
Hinduism also has a same philosophy
Named - Advait Vedant .
This is considered as to be the greatest philosophy of all time .
Many Saints In Hinduism and India have talked about this philosophy Saint Kabir etc.
After all, we are all the same human beings, so it's no wonder that our religions all express similar sentiments. Thanks!
@@dailyphilosophy Hmm.
But saying this disheartened that 15-20% of Hindus only know About this Philosophy.
@@michaelmcclure3383 upanishad is amalgamation of advait vedanda and vedanta
Great video. 7:30 -8:24 that segment really reminded so much of Alan Watts.
The source of confusion in life and our attempts to "make sense" of it is the nature of our consciousness and the nature of language. We break things into "parts". We bit (bite) them into concepts and "things" in order to be manageable for conscious attention to grasp and talk about. We imagine the universe to be a collection of parts separated and distinct from another acting on one another. Then we forget that we did that (or were never aware in the first place). This forgetfulness isn't an error in us as the us is what the entire universe is doing "here". We ultimately reduce the "things" to a duality leading to further confusion. Life/Death, being/non being, something/nothing etc and we become inclined to view one favourably and the other to be feared instead of seeing them as two aspects of the same process. The ego illusion is what gives rise to confusion.
I've always felt that Alan Watts was very inspiring, and he has this hypnotic voice and way of speaking that really captures one's attention. Unfortunately, my German immigrant English cannot quite compete with him for effect, but I'm still grateful to you for mentioning us together in one sentence. I also totally agree with what you say about duality. Unfortunately, we can't seem to be able to escape it. All our Western logic, since ancient times, is based on Aristotle's "laws of thought," which essentially cement this duality: if one statement is true, then its opposite must be false. Some Eastern philosophies have escaped that trap, and perhaps we ought to look more into Eastern thought for ideas on how to make more sense of our lives. Anyway, thanks a lot for your thoughts!
@@dailyphilosophy i enjoyed reading your reply. New subscriber, I look forward to digging through your videos. Yeah, Alan was a gifted speaker for sure. His ability to cut to the chase and simplify what could otherwise be presented as needlessly overcomplicated is a joy to listen to. His emphasis on Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist and Zen teachings instantly fascinated me. I agree with when you say that we could all benefit from looking at how the eastern traditions approached the fundamental questions of existence and consciousness. Good day to you Sir.
@@andromedarising5764 Thank you again for your kindness! Unfortunately, there are only three videos of mine currently to "dig into", so it won't be much of a digging. But I'm trying to catch up and more will be coming soon. Many thanks for subscribing and I hope that we can continue the discussion soon under another video :) (By the way, I published a new one about the concept of kings just yesterday, so you might want to see if you find it interesting). Thanks!
@@dailyphilosophy hey sir I really like this vedio, I am not known to many western philosophers but I came to know Spinoza few years ago and his writings really convinced me. I am from India and I am from Sikh religion and I do believe in god and I believe in concept of singularity only, I think duality is only mirror effect. like you say about duality that if one statement is true, then its opposite must be false( like day and night are totally opposite and considered as two things) but its good to say it like this that if there would be no day then there would be no night so day and night are not two things but actually one as they exist because of each other. and one more thing in our religion our gurus have already told that god is about experiencing not about knowing so we emphasizing more on chanting meditation and believe me once to started getting connect to universal energy or cosmos its amazing and its all true not even a single myth. And please try to read "Guru granth sahib ji" our holy granth, if youy have not. thank you
@@harman6730 Thank you so much for your comment! Yes, I agree with what you say about duality. I didn't know that this was also a topic in Sikh religion, but it is one of the main points also in Daoism. Especially Western languages (I'm not sure about Indoeuropean or Sanskrit) have this very strong focus on duality: yes and no. True and false. In our lived reality, things seldom are true and false in such a clear way. And, as you say, they always seem to appear as blending into each other. Even the best people have moments where they are evil, and even the evillest criminals may love their children. Thank you also for your reading suggestion! I will look it up.
Imagine an oak tree with tens of thousands of leaves.
Is an Oak leaf the tree?
Or is the Oak tree the leaf?
Together they are one. Neville Goddard said it best. "Me and my father are one but my father is greater".
Neville's ideas make a great deal of sense when people can let go of what they think they know and just listen...
I think Jesus himself hints at this too when he says things like, "I and the father are one" or "When you do this for the least of my brethren, you do it for me", etc.
@@thedude5740 Listen without actually thinking and presupposing
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My top Three; Spinoza, Bruno, PArmenides
This gives me some ideas on what to make a video about next :) Thanks!
Beautifully and simply done, as usual. I like your mushroom analogy!
Thank you!
Now you know I’m searching out the mushroom analogy!
It was in the Avatar!
The whole planet was one single connected organism.
Awesome video! Very thought provoking! There must be something to his belief! I am moving more and more into that direction myself.
Spinoza has influenced my thinking immensely. I think that whatever we say apart from Spinoza's pantheism, can only be in addition to it.
It is not pantheism exactly. It is one God who expands in everything.
@@babisbabinos8075 I agree that pantheism is not a perfect descriptor, but it was the best one I could think of.
@@ahobimo732 Yes, it is like Christ saying we are his body and that we are gods. We choose whether we will be one with him or separated because everything is connected. Hell is the separation from the source. I don't get why Christians were harsh against him. Maybe because the societies were agricultural and not even the priests cared to understand and analyze the scripture.
@@babisbabinos8075 Well, to be honest, I think most "Christians" would be shocked and appalled by the figure of Christ, if they ever encountered him in real life. There is an enormous gulf between the ideals presented in the Gospels, and the behaviour of most people claiming to follow those ideals.
In my view, "Christianity" refers mostly to a collection of institutions of social control that arose to exploit the message of love and unity associated with the figure of Christ.
The greatest irony is that the Gospels clearly describe how Jesus railed against religious corruption. This was the one sin for which he had no mercy, no compassion. Those "false shepherds" who exploit and mislead the lost, desperate masses were the very people who Jesus identified as the greatest evildoers.
And yet the story and meaning of Jesus life was ultimately co-opted by precisely such people.
Thank you for the video sir. I always have questioned God and the closest I've gotten to the idea of him is that everything is God and he is everywhere. Although, I always had doubts as I am a Hindu and there are a lot of people feeding all kinds of information to your brain. One common denominator I've found in all the major religions is that they all believe God is beyond space and time. I think this somehow relates to Spinoza's philosophy. It's sad to know that he had to live a terrible life. People do not like strange new ideas as it creates uncertainty, something that our minds hate like nothing else. I felt safe and heard so I wrote down a long comment. Thank you once again, you've earned a subscriber.
Many thanks for your kind words! They are a great encouragement to me. I hope that you will find my future videos also inspiring. Please keep telling me about your thoughts. I often find these discussions in the comments actually much more interesting than the videos themselves. To answer one of your points, I don't think that God cares whether we're Hindus or Muslims or Jews. If there is a God, there will be one only for all of us, and he will be generous enough to ignore our little fights about whose religion is better.
But the Hindu view of God is different from the Christian and Muslim one
They view God as a Master - these are Master/Slave religions
A slave may serve Only One Master - hence the One God and threats against others
Take their Terminology - "Commandments, Submit, beg, obey, judge, wrath, punish, mercy, forgive, Fear" - ALL Slave/Servant words totally absent in Hinduism/Buddhism
The word Lord has crept into Hinduism, but this came from outside and must be rejected by Hindus
For us God is not our Master, we are not slaves
We remain True Children of God - God Rama is our Father, we are His Children
We ALL are - but lured by the promise of an eternal life of comfort, Christians and Muslims have reduced themselves down to slaves/servants
That is their choice, not ours
We sit by the side of God, His arm around us
Christians and Muslims are down on the ground before us on their knees, begging for mercy, shaking with fear - all by choice!
They want a life of ease & comfort - that is why they have lowered themselves down to such
They will get it - but as lower life forms
Take dogs for example - free food, shelter, protection and care - no work, no worries, lay about all day, every day!
Heaven!
They will get their Heaven but at a terrible price
@@ramaraksha01 Thank you for your comment, but I must say that I strongly disapprove of any form of religiously motivated hatred, and I'd prefer that we discuss here as thoughtful, kind human beings rather than enemies. I don't see any single one of those age-old religious rivalries leading anywhere except into more suffering for all sides. I hoped that this would be one take-away from this video.
@@dailyphilosophy I look for rational explanations - And I look to philosophers to echo these ideas and sadly I find none
Don't see much value in philosophy, when in all other areas including philosophy we can discuss ideas, criticize or praise them
But when it comes to religion now it is a "rivalry" and so my views must be silenced
That's like saying Liberals promote Abortion access as a rivalry against Cons or vice Versa
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There is no evidence for God, so these ideas must come from us
Hindus don't condemn Non-Hindus to hell, neither does Buddhism
But both Christians and Muslims do - OPENLY! Why is that?
There is a history of mass killings in the name of religion. Again, why is that?
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To me the answer is clear
Christians and Muslims made God using their Kings/Dictator as a Guide, for Hindus and Buddhists God is a Parent/Teacher
Christians and Muslims view God as their ticket to an everlasting life of ease & comfort
And using that carrot these religions promote hate against unbelievers
And just like leeches, oligarchs have raped, tortured and killed those who did not support their benefactor, so have these people
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For Hindus and Buddhists - there is no such life of ease & comfort
The Buddha is a Teacher - all he can offer is knowledge, guidance
For us, God is everywhere, God is our Parent to ALL of us - hence the lack of hate in these religions
@@ramaraksha01 if "God" is the creator of the universe, there is evidence of that.
Two science experiments. The amazing resonance experiment and star in a jar. One shows the true "word" and the other shows light being created. Frequencies are the driving force of ALL creation. "God" is a fractal pattern endlessly expressing itself. You are the word made flesh...
Absolutely entrancing and insightful video sir. The way you have edited it is both subtle and purposeful. This video managed to hold my attention (despite being very less viewed.. Which is sad.), provide a novel insight and possibly change the the way my mind works atleast to some degree. Keep it up sir. You have earned a subscriber. I will watch other of your videos.
Thank you so much for your kind words! This is only my second video, so I'm very much aware of its shortcomings, but I hope that I will manage to improve the quality in the future. Please also feel free to tell me which topics or philosophers you'd like to see more about. I'm always grateful for ideas for future videos.
@@dailyphilosophy Thank you for this video! Maybe you could make a one explaining Nietzsche's "Eternal Recurrence"?
@@davidgarrett4852 That's a great idea! Thank you! I'll do that right after the next video, which is already in the making.
I have always found Spinoza's work intriguing. Thank you for this overview. I am subbing to your channel.
Thank you so much for your kind words! If you like, have a look at daily-philosophy.com, where we publish weekly articles on all sorts of philosophy-related topics.
@@dailyphilosophy Thank you. I shall.
Beautiful video with great analogies. Really enjoyed it!
Thank you so much! This was only my second attempt, so any positive feedback means a lot to me.
I loved that! Beautifully presented 👏. Clear and perfectly understandable. Spinoza's axiomatic treatise condensed into one simplified, comprehensible, eloquent and meaningful production.
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement! I'm just starting out on this TH-cam journey, and it means a lot to me to know that others enjoy what I'm trying to do.
What a brilliant mind from a brilliant person. RIP Sir Spinoza.
Brilliant beautiful summation. Thank you sir.
Spinoza must have read a lot on Hinduism, Sir. This is the ultimate in Hinduism as you may have known too. ADVAITHA PHILOSOPHY is what Spinoza has put forward basically. Not new to us Hindus. Thanks. MeenaC
Unfortunately, Hinduism is a pretty big area in itself, and difficult to get into if one doesn't have any background in it. So I have never really engaged with it, but I will give it a go now. Thanks!
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Incredible video. I love to learn about philosophy this way. The quality of this vid is top notch!
Thank you so much for your encouragement! I hope that you will enjoy the other videos on this channel too.
Glad I stumbled on this video. Just liked and subscribed, and look forward to viewing your other posts.
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement! It's only my second video of this kind, so many things are still suboptimal. For example, many remarked on the bad sound. I'll try to make it better next time. I hope I'll be ready with the next video tomorrow.
Whatever he said is true. It is also a philosophy in Hinduism called the Advaita vedant. There is also the great statement "Aham brahmasmi" that is "you are the absolute reality"
Tat tvam asi
Thank you for this video. You explain things with calm and nice illustrations so interesting to ear and nice to see. Thank you and I look forward to ear and learn more. May life be kind to you. Namasté
Thank you so much for your kind words! They mean a lot to me. I hope that I can continue to create videos that you'll enjoy.
It’s always the ones who tell you to love everyone that are hated the most, and often killed. I always wonder what that says about the humans?
It says humans are eating flesh. Go vegan.
Of course we are all one, one with Nature/God :) It's a good thing people are coming back to remembering this, it can't happen too soon! We must love one another and love our planet in order to survive.
You are so right! Unfortunately, modern life and technology are designed to isolate us more and more from each other and from nature. Let's hope that we can change this as long as there is still time.
Then what god are you talking about ?
A wonderful video!! Thank you!!
A fan of Spinoza here 🧡
That's great! He's very little known today, but Einstein, for example, was also a Spinoza fan.
From a Buddhist POV Descartes found the root of the Ego not the being when he wrote "I think therefore I am." But Spinoza really works for Physicists.
As in, who/ what is the "I" in "I think therefore I am"?
Now, there is a most fun and fascinating question! Getting to the root of that question is the beginning of a wonderful philosophical outlook.
@@andromedarising5764All long term meditators and many psychedelic drug trippers have the same Ontological observation which is the corner stone of Eastern Mysticism both from India and China; namely that you are the being. You aren't the thinking. The being is who is listening observing the thinking. Over time (for those on the path) the voice over the commentary the static goes fainter and less and less influential. You Begin to recognize your thoughts as a by product of your neural net as some baggage you must take with you through this life but not you. So one begins to see it as one's, would be imposter. And you can easily notice who's a slave to the noise between their ears and who isn't. We all are from time to time. So the I in I think isn't you at all it's basically existential fear in all it's many many forms. But it ain't the eternal you. Now thinking is actually related but distinct from intellect.
U hv a superb way to convey unconveyable things. Love it. Rare too.
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement! It really means very much to me.
Thank you Professor ,,, Keep it up
This is a very well made video. The imagery to go along with it fits so nicely too. I would love to see you do a video on another 'heretic', Jakob Boehme. His influence is vastly underrated in philosophy. He influenced a lot of German idealists, particularly Schelling and Hegel. To see his ideas brought to life in video form would be great!
One thing I would say about Spinoza as mentioned in this video, I think we are underestimating Spinoza's God by equating it to nature. Spinoza in my opinion is incorrectly labelled a pantheist. He uses the term Deus sive Nature - 'God or Nature' in his Ethics only twice, but that has been taken on by many modern interpretations as key to his philosophy. We need to take into context what Spinoza meant by 'God or nature' rather than taking it as a standalone equivalent.
“Whatever is, is in God, and nothing can be, or be conceived without God.” - Part 1 (Concerning God), Ethics, Spinoza.
Spinoza uses the term 'Being-in-God' far, far more often than he does 'God or Nature'. We can therefore say that Spinoza was more akin to a Panentheist than a Pantheist. All that nature is, is God, but God is more than nature.
Thank you so much for your kind comments! First, I'd love to do more on German Idealism, and especially the German Romantics, who, I always felt, expressed a valuable opposition to the technocratic thinking prevalent today (Novalis, for example). I don't know much about Boehme, but I'll take your suggestion for a future video and perhaps also go towards Schelling and Fichte. Hegel, honestly, I have trouble understanding, but there's always hope as long as one's alive :)
You are, of course, also right that reducing Spinoza to this one half-sentence is misleading. As is evident from the quote that is used in the video, the "sive" is not even the focus here, but Spinoza's determinism ("necessarily acts as it does"). But the aim of this TH-cam channel (and my blog and newsletter on daily-philosophy.com) is not to provide a precise introduction for students of experts, but to find something in Spinoza's thought that is relatable to us as we live today and that can help us in some way improve or enrich our own lives. The fact (about which I'm myself endlessly surprised) that this video reached 32k views in ten days shows that something in this "deus sive natura" resonates with us and our contemporary problems, and so the video achieved its goal in providing some little value or inspiration to its viewers.
Trying to popularise philosophy will always come with the danger of misrepresenting parts of the philosophies discussed (the same thing happens all the time with modern "Stoicism" or "Daoism"), but I believe that it is still worthwhile. I feel it's better to keep even one little insight of Spinoza's alive and to inspire others with it, than to miss this opportunity for reflection and inspiration. But, as I said, I understand and agree with you that this "sive" cannot justifiably be seen as the core of his philosophy, especially when taken out of all its (historical and textual) context.
I also agree with you about Spinoza's pantheism vs panentheism. But a video like this necessarily has to simplify as it does (to paraphrase Spinoza). It's always a struggle to balance scholarly precision against popular interest, and, depending on the communications channel one uses (lecture vs TH-cam), one will be more relevant than the other. I hope that the video still provides some value to the viewers, even if it simplifies Spinoza, perhaps even beyond what would be academically defensible.
Thank you so much again for the inspiring comment and your suggestions!
Very good summary, brother. Cheers from São Paulo, Brazil
Thank you for your kind encouragement! Greetings back to Sao Paulo!
First time watcher, I really enjoyed your video. You have a nice voice, and you compose the video very well, subscribe! This idea has been mine as well, of course it already exists, I shouldn’t be surprised the idea exists. Nature is “god,” we are nature, therefore we embody god. But nature is unpredictable, and even though we find more ways to control it, it will always outlast us in drastic change.
If people understood that nature will always change and evolve, we also could change and evolve- which is the worst thing to do for niches of power that control, that requires the idea that change is detrimental and wrong to keep said power.
You're right! And, despite our attempts to control nature, there have been estimates that a few tens of thousands of years after we're gone, nature will have removed most of our presence from the planet. To the extent where an alien visitor might not realise that we ever existed. So much for controlling nature :) Thank you for your comment!
It’s always the most excommunicated ones that hold truth. Truth always makes liars feel afraid
Namaskar from British Guyana...Nice presentation..
Thank you!
This video, so clearly explained, added an other tassel on my unfinished puzzle.
Excellent..... amazing insights
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement!
So when John Lennon wrote, “ I am you and you are me, and we are all together” in “ I Am The Walrus” he was expressing Spinoza’s idea. But then I’m pretty sure Lennon was getting that from the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Once again, we are back to eastern philosophy.
And for us Christians, there’s a similar idea in the gospel according to John 17:10 - Jesus’s high priestly prayer: “ All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them.”
This is not threatening; this is awesomely cool!
In hindsight, Spinoza was naively optimistic in thinking that an all-powerful and all-knowing deity or substance would be rational or benevolent- as opposed to strict Necessity or Fate, amoral and incomprehensible.
I must admit that I simplified things for this video. As I said, his philosophy is pretty complex, and you can see from the quote I had in the video: "The eternal being ... necessarily acts as it does" that Spinoza indeed thought that we are all driven by necessity and that the universe is deterministic. But of course, being identical with God, he wouldn't have seen it as amoral. Incomprehensible, perhaps.
Cognitive dissonance has always plagued the human mind. We have an eternal need to explain our world and give reasons for its existence. Then when we don’t agree we imprison, kill or banish those we disagree with. The worst first cause explanation was God. How futile to to try to explain the unknowable. The best and most profitable course of study is to understand Nature. We as human beings were nature’s worst mistake. We have a bigger brain than our primate cousins but have failed to use it with wisdom to solve our most basic problems, greed, wars, racism’s, global warming, etc. We are our worst enemy sad to say. Natures greatest enemy.
The Abrahamic gods certainly are not thus he disproved all of them
@@gowdsake7103 It seems you have a bias against the existence of evil gods, which is a very 'Abrahamic' bias to have.
@@francescocarlini7613 Until there is evidence of ANY god they are by definition non existent ALL of them
Another excellent, lucid examination of a fascinating figure. Spinoza showed nteresting connections to some strands of Jewish mysticism and was an important writer on ethics as well. Thanks.
Thank you for your kind encouragement!
Good presentation
Thank you for this talk, it's comforting and encouraging. Spinoza was worth his weight in gold. God bless 🙏🏻♥️
Thank you for your kind words!
Thanks for the video. Here are my thoughts on this, so basically what Spinoza wrote is similar to Lao Tzu's philosophy of the Tao and Wallace D Wattles' Original substance. And the more I read and listen to these unrelated texts, the more and more I see a trend of similarity and the harder it is not to believe in the existence of something greater in us and in all things.
You might be interested in a book by Aldous Huxley. The Perennial Philosophy (I think). He tries to show that all religions are connected by common ideas. The present Dalai Lama also often emphasises the point: you can be of any faith, but in the end, the basic ideas of a spiritual life are the same for all of us. Thanks!
@@dailyphilosophy Thank you, I'll check it out.
I received your response. Thank you. It was helpful.
Psalm 82:6, all of you are gods, for all of you are children of the most high!
Spinoza sounds like Thales, another brilliant, heroic unifier of reality.
Spinoza is very interesting the way he is using geometry to explain his ideas. I will investigate further. Thank you very much.
It *is* interesting, but very hard to read because he always refers back to something he's proven 20 pages earlier. Anyway, if you want to read the original, his Ethics is online, for example here:
www.gutenberg.org/files/3800/3800-h/3800-h.htm
Thanks!
@@dailyphilosophy Fantastic! I didn't have to look! Thanks! I am used to super-dense material and I can rely on second opinions ( like yours) if I get stuck. 👍
We are all energy, vibrating in unique patterns. Diety, people, plant, stone. The universe is a complex vibration that each contributes to, infinitely connected with others, in the now, in the past, and in the future.
Thank you for simplifying philosophy! I find philosophy fascinating but the actual writings are too dense and heavy. So happy you're bringing it down to a more easily digestible manner!
I find it fascinating how philosophers use their own bias to lie
Great video
Thank you for your encouragement! I really appreciate it.
Isn’t this what most Dharmic religions say? We have God in our hearts
Jesus said :"The Kingdom of Heaven is within you"
God is in heaven is he not?
Not dharmic hinduism:
Dvaita: cosmic soul and individual soul are apart.
Vishistadvaita: individual soul is on the body of cosmic soul
Advaita: cosmic soul alone exists
Spinoza was honored in the Netherlands by being on the last 1,000 Guilder bill issued in 1972.
Nice video !! This idea is central theme of Indian philosophy, known as advaita which means non dual.
Many thanks for your kind words. I'll have to learn more about this. Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about Indian thought.
@@dailyphilosophy disclaimer: plz read authentic translation of those books …there many books with wrong translations to defame HINDUS
Brilliant video!
Thank you so much! I just published another one yesterday about the concept of kings, just in case you're interested.
Telling the truth can still get you in a lot of trouble in this world.
Spinoza actually defended pantheism ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism) but died 20 years before the word was coined by a German philosopher.
Spinoza is my favourite philosopher when I read philosophy from 15 to 22.
Subscribed! Wonderful video! :)
Thank you so much! I'd actually like to know what you thought of the bits where I was talking to the camera. I had the impression that they are more distracting and that the video might have been better without them. What is your opinion? I'd like to get this right in the next video. Thanks!
@@dailyphilosophy I think some people will enjoy your talking directly to the camera, others may not. But (constructive criticism here) one of the nice things about your video is that you have a great voice - unfortunately the audio quality is not as good as it could be because it seems you are trying to speak into it from a distance. Are you speaking into a detached microphone or your computer mike? Take full advantage of your great voice - perhaps speak more closely into a separate microphone? :)
You are right, I had the microphone attached to the camera and not very close. I'll try to do this better next time. The next one will be without my face, so we'll see how it does. Thanks again for your feedback!
@@dailyphilosophy Love your work!
Funny, I came to the same conclusion as Spinoza after taking mushrooms and acid way back as a youth. He was correct in my mind.
What did the monk say at the hot dog stand? Make me one with everything 😂😂
Wonderful description, thank you! About this vision there is a neglected beatiful booklet on physics written by a brilliant physics scientist who, instead of working in Academia started his own company on laser and special optics and, when old, published his lifelong reasoning on some inconsistencies of today Standard Model and some weird experiment results. This PhD, J.A. Macken, explains that hypothising a special "subspace" normally unaccessible to us is possible to explain many properties of "matter" including inertia, charge, energy, DeBroglie waves etc. This subspace is made by tiny quantum oscillators, what oscillates is space-time (space expand while time contracts and viceversa) this subspace is inviscid and irrotational, like super fluid He. Remeber that Einstein said that "ether" was just not necessary not that exist or not and even in 1954 wrote to a friend that he was still wondering what really are photons. This book clearly explains many classical and quantistic physical effect and can be freely downloaded googling: only spacetime. According to J. Macken insights and computations every electron, and other fermions, is formed by a confined photon of the relevant energy "running chaotically on itself" forming a sort of vortex and this happens at specific energies somewhat similar to atomic orbitals. This approach reconciles Gravity with Electrodynamics and explains entanglement and double slit experiments. Accordingly everthing is made by "spacetime" and everything vibrate and exchange photons. We can't detect photon propagating in "vacuum" we detect only their interaction with ordinary matter, and this count as a measurement. I think Spinoza and Macken insights are very important in these days of almost pathologigical absence of any form of spirit and consequent nihilism.
There is a school of Indian philosophies called Adwaita (A-dwait : No- two : there are not two separate ultimate realities) which says : Aham Brahamasmi ( I am the God ). This is believed to be rooted in Vaidic (of Vedas) philosophy that's why also known as Vedanta (the essence of Vedas). Vedas are believed to be gotten in existence around 4500-3500 years ago. Later compiled by someone called Vedvyasa. Interesting to see that western philosophers also came up in with the similar way of thinking later.
There's a book from Aldous Huxley, The Perennial Philosophy, where he tries to show how all religions of the world are connected by the same basic ideas. I believe that, too. Why would we, when our lives are shaped by the same hopes and fears, come up with wildly different religious ideas? I often thought of approaching the Vedas, but it seems like such a huge tradition that it would take years to get to know them and all the relevant commentaries and later work in any useful way. So I never tried. But perhaps I should. Thanks for reminding me.
Wayne Dyer taught the same thing...for me, I am a piece of God, His reflection, His image an likeness, a combination including my background in Christian Science
You never really thought about that did you ! Are you African? Indian? Eskimo? Neanderthal are all those a reflection of you
Thank you for your content 🎉
Thank you for your encouragement! By the way, I just published a new video yesterday. I hope you'll like that one too.
@@dailyphilosophy subscribed and I'll check it out
@@anarmemmedli7136 Thanks a lot!
Incredibly pertinent!
We are all links in the same chain. All drops of water from the same ocean.
I don't like thinking that Hitler and me are one. It forces me to have compassion for those who I disagree with.
If we are aware of oneness we don't have enemies, just parts of ourselves that we need to help to a better place.
That was great. Well done.
Thank you so much!
Excellent excellent excellent!! Thank you!!
Thank you so much for your kind words. It's very encouraging for a beginner on TH-cam to see such positive feedback!
I would enjoy a video on the philosophy of John Scotus Eriugina. Much of what this man attempted to portray is eeriely similar to thoughts of my own. Not sure if Spinoza was influenced by the irish philosopher or not, but I am seeing similarities. I am just now starting to learn about Spinoza surprisingly...
It was rumored that John Scotus Eriugina was murdered by is students by them all stabbing him with their pens. Supposedly they did this bc Scotus made them think too much.
Reading these comments makes me realise how little I know myself of all the philosophy that is out there! Bertrand Russell seemed to have had a very high opinion of John Scotus Eriugena, so I'll certainly look him up and see if I can make a video on him. Thanks for the suggestion!
As you used Mushroom example
In Hinduism We use Example such as
Branches of a tree
They are many but connected to one Single Tree.
Similarly Reflection on moon in Utensils (Utensils filled with water).
When we see in Utensils we see lots of moon but all are just the reflection of real one.
You can Read Adi Shankaracharya , Saint Kabir to know more .
Also you can check Acharya Prashant videos who is teaching , talking about this philosophy.
Thank you for these additional examples! They brilliantly illustrate the point.
@@dailyphilosophyHope my comments helped
it might also be connected to spinoza's early education: as a jew, he was taught 'god is one'. he took this seriously.
thank you for an excellent presentation.
Thank you for your encouragement!
Came to same conclusion a while back, makes sense
Thoroughly enjoyed
Thank you so much!
Spinoza is a titan of Philosophy. He created the blueprint of philosophy, and biblical criticism
is spinoza collected works and spinoza complete works recommendable to read? I'm planning to buy, thanks for your sincere answer, Comrades!!
I would generally recommend to avoid reading the philosophers themselves if one does not already have a very good foundation in philosophy. The problem is that Spinoza (and essentially every philosopher in history) wrote their works at a particular time, and meant them to be a contribution to the wider discussion that was going on within the academic community of that time. So to understand them, one needs to know what the others before each philosopher had talked about, what the problems at the time where and so on. This is very hard to do if one reads only the original sources. I would always recommend reading histories of philosophy instead, which can provide a lot more insight and that are written in a modern style for today's readers. For example, in this case, Roger Scruton wrote an excellent and very fun to read history of modern philosophy that covers all this period from Descartes to Kant (I'm not sure right now where it stops). If one actually wanted to read a bit of the originals, to get an idea for how they sound, there's a wonderful collection by Cooper and Fosl, called something like Philosophy: The Essential Readings (not sure, from memory). It contains the most central passages from many of the famous books in all of the history of philosophy, together with short introductions to each that explain the context. This will bring you much more value than an edition of Spinoza's Ethics, which is really unreadable for the non-specialist. Thank you for the question!
@@dailyphilosophy Unfortunately, I bought Plato, Aristotle, complete works last week. however, I have no any intention on reading these yet. I need to build my philosophy foundation before reading these, just like you said. I really appreciated your reply sir!! And it's my pleasure to be guided by you.
Making telescopes at the time was very dangerous not just from the dust from grinding lenses and mirror blanks but from the putting the reflective mirror on the glass blanks for reflecting telescopes .the solid stone floor was damaged at William Herschel's observatory in Bath and was shattered when some of this hot stuff fell on it.Spinoza is very interesting and I think a Pantheist but he could have been a Panentheist.I suppose that the difference lies not in the substance of the Universe but in the purpose behind it?All rather perplexing.
Oh, I didn't know that about the mirrors! That's a fascinating detail I wish I had known when I made the video. Thank you for that. This whole story of how philosophers thought (and think) about substance and/or purpose has been going on since Aristotle, who, one might say, saw both substance and purpose as essential, defining parts of every thing, and it continues until today, where we still have the same debates in metaphysics. It's not likely that we will ever find any definite truth in any of these positions. I'd suspect that our brains, evolved to catch zebras and eat them more efficiently, are just not up to the task. But at least these questions keep us philosophy teachers in employment, so there's a positive side to it all :)
Thank you sir
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A beautiful explanation . Spinoza was a wise man. He was ahead of his time. It is only slightly different from the vedantic point of view where we and nature are the substance and God the essence.
It would be so interesting to explore this difference. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Indian thought to do that. But thank you for the suggestion!
Thank you.
Leibniz looking for Spinoza in a tavern. Would like to hear your take on it.
I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. Leibniz and Spinoza did meet once (Stewart, The Courtier and the Heretic), shortly before Spinoza's death, but I don't know anything more about that meeting. Personally, I can't make much sense of Leibniz's idea of a clockwork universe, in which nothing really interacts with anything. I think it's a pretty good demonstration of how not to do philosophy. But then, he's Leibniz and I'm just Andy, so I have likely misunderstood the whole thing. In any case, to come back to your question, Leibniz wouldn't actually be trying to look for Spinoza, because whether they meet or not would have been determined at the beginning of creation and woven into the pre-established harmony of the universe, in Leibniz's opinion. What do you think?
@@dailyphilosophy well, your answer really touched some strings, as an engineer and science enthusiast I really admire Leibniz, but at the same time I cannot but concur on your take on the deterministic way Leibniz himself would have thought about how Spinoza could be on his way on this world. Buy I cannot stop wondering as what such meeting would have look alike.
From a purely causal view, our realty is an infinite web of casualty, with every aspect being as it is because every other aspect is as they are.
As you say, this is what Spinoza also thought, which is why he wrote the "necessarily acts as it does" part. If there is only one substance and only one will, and if this is somehow aligned with the laws of nature, then it's difficult to see how we can avoid being determinists. Then everything "necessarily happens as it does."
We call ourselves The Murder of Crows among other names. We have never heard of Spinoza but fermly agree with these beliefs, we, the entire universe is God to us. We are 23, and autistic. We were raised as an atheist, our mortal father was our God, but there was no love, it was always a game and a truama bond. When we could no longer run from this truth, it shattered us completely. But we kept living in this new form, completely unrecognizable. The first time we sincerely quistioned our former Atheism was before being disowned, it was after we were diagnosed with autism and after we had accepted our true self as a man. We summoned a jinn with our sister, a man named He Who Walks on Iron Sands, he was an elephant from Mars with burns all over his legs. He told us stories about the wars on Mars and we could not see or hear him, but our sister could,
He asked us,
"Why are you here if you don't believe I exist?"
And we responded at the time,
"Because I want to believe that you do."
That night after the experience I declared myself an Agnostic, because we could not believe that our sister staged an experience so shocking and amazing.
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Now we're a chaos magician on the left hand path, and our sister is more traditional and on the right hand path.
We absolutely believe that everything to ever exist, IS God. Because God to us is Everything, including us.
Our favorite angel is Samiel.
He helped us after our father disowned us last year which split us into multiple identities, multiple people. We consider that angel our father now instead.
We praise him every Saturday by singing songs about death, playing the piano, and burning scent sticks.
Even though everything is God. We still have our favorite aspects of God.
Hello dr Andreas, I would really love to get to know your opinion on the following matter. I find it so hard not to notice similarities between the ideas of Spinoza and other philosophers such as Carl jung and his idea of the collective unconscious or the philosophy of sufi philosopher Ibn arabi and his idea of wahdat al wajood. do you think they were influenced by each other? it seems to me that all of such philosophers explained the same idea only in a different way.
Hello Mr Kelzi, and thank you for your interesting question! I'm afraid though that it is a little much to talk about within a TH-cam comment box. One problem is that one must be a little careful about what is a real "similarity" between theories that come from different cultures. When Christians and Muslims talk about God, although there are many similarities, there are also great differences, both in the theology and in the historical developments of these religions. So even when they use similar words, like forgiveness, mercy, or sin, these might in reality be very dissimilar concepts. And it gets even more problematic when you look at Asian thought, where something like the "Dao" is almost impossible to translate in a straightforward way into any Western spiritual term. So I'm not sure that identifying similarities between Spinoza and, say, Jung is as easy as it looks. Our brains have this tendency to always look for similarities, which is part of our survival skills: for example, there are these famous examples of rocks on Mars looking like a face and other such things. Our brains are always busy seeing similarities and recognising features. But sometimes it's wiser to resist this temptation and to focus on the significant differences instead.
That said, I do believe that there are also great, real similarities, even between different cultures. After all, we are all human, and we all have the same problems: fears, death, illness, anxiety about the future, limited resources to survive, competition, but also altruistic feelings, love, companionship, the wish to see our children grow up, and many more. All these are the common bedrock of human experience, and it doesn't seem to change much whether you're a Chinese of the Tang dynasty, an Amazon tribe-member, or CEO of a Silicon Valley startup. I suspect that the similarities you mention come down to this common core of human experience for the most part.
If you'd like to go deeper into this, there's a very interesting book by Aldous Huxley, The Perennial Philosophy, where he makes just this point: how similar religious and philosophical traditions are all around the world. It's a bit academic in tone, but has lots of great examples of common themes that one finds in all religions. You can easily get it online.
Many thanks again for your comment and best wishes!
@@dailyphilosophy Many thanks to you Dr. Andreas for your detailed comment which I found very useful indeed, specifically I found the idea you mentioned about the tendency of human nature to search for similarities very interesting and would surely like to get a deeper dive into it, perhaps starting with the suggestion you kindly provided.
I am not a student of philosophy myself, rather a medical doctor, but i do really enjoy philosophy in general and I will without a doubt give the book you mentioned a try!
Always looking forward to your next upload regarding such interesting themes.
Best wishes!
@@hussam17396 Thank you for your kind words! The new video is just out, by the way, and it even includes CG Jung, whom you mentioned in your comment. I hope you will also find it inspiring!
Carl Yung was essentially a mystic, all over the world and in different times mystics exist in different cultures and through self exploration tend to come to the same conclusions independent of each others influences. We're all God.
If you want to further enhance about the philosophy which he was talking about just search Swami sarvapriya anda" who am i" a hindu Vedanta scholar.
This is basically Advaita Vedanta philosophy teaches you but in way more depth analysis.
Thanks! I will look that up.
@@dailyphilosophy Really appreciate your willingness to learn.
And thank you for taking out the time to reply my comment.
One of the few westeners that got it right. There is only God. God is all there is, all that you are seeing, doing and experiencing.
I think it’s hard for a culture that is dominated by a church to see god as anything but a remote judge and observer
@@renzo6490 Mystics from the abrahamic traditions are legit but ignorance is indeed strong within those systems for the average practicioner
Spinoza’s light still shines.
Spinoza was the most remorselessly honest, rational and sincere thinker produced by the West that we know of.
But unfortunately, he doesn't have quite the impact today that many others have. He is much less popularly known than others (if one asked people in the street or perhaps even first-year philosophy students to name 3 philosophers, how many would say "Spinoza"?) And also if one looks at publications and conferences, or even university classes, Spinoza is almost always dealt with as part of some "Enlightenment" package, not on his own terms. One wonders why that is.
I have been searching for 50 years for truth and bliss and have found that the greatest wisdom is in advaita Vedanta non duality....we can actually BE INFINITE DIVINE BLISS PEACE AND LOVE....seek and you will find the answers to every question 🙏☮️🥰🕉️🙏