2021 Tesla Model 3 70-mph Highway Range Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- I fully charge a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range, AWD and take it out on the NJ Turnpike to see how far it will go when driven at a constant 70 mph.
The temperature was in the high 70's when I started and got up to a peak of 86 degrees. The average temperature was about 83 F for the duration of the drive.
I was able to drive the Model 3 305 miles before the state of charge hit zero, and then continue on for another 5 miles before I arrived at the Supercharger station and end the test.
This version of the Model 3 has a combined EPA range rating of 353 miles. The highway range rating is 333.8 miles. While the 310 miles was definitely impressive, I did come up 24 miles short of the vehicle's EPA highway range, which is usually my goal.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:35 Supercharging up for the test
3:02 EPA range ratings explained
4:40 @75% state of charge
6:02 @50% state of charge
7:08 @25% state of charge
9:55 Wrapup at the Supercharger
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Beautifully done, Tom! Great info comparing the two year models. Thanks for ur effort here! -Ron
Thanks, Ron!
how do you like it?
As a cyclist, I am very aware the difference in power requirements between even 15mph and 20mph. . . The difference between 60 and 70 is huge!
Get off the road
@@freedivided2221 He'll do that once he gets off your mom
This might be the most "scientific" range test I've come across short of running the car in a lab. Taking into account the wind, tyre pressure, EPA Highway miles instead of the combined range, you even took the "below 0" buffer into account (which could be another 15 or so miles on top of the 310), unlike another tester *cough* Edmunds *cough*. Great job!
Great Test Tom. I'm picking my Model 3 2021 up Thursday May 6th Can't wait.
How has it been so far?
Lucid > Tesla. even Mercedes is better
According to my calculations you drove for 4 hours and 25.7 minutes 😄. That’s a young man’s endurance territory (in my younger years this was doable)…. Thanks Tom!
Oh, there was a bathroom break in the middle. There are rest stops right on the Turnpike, so it's about a 1/2 mile total off course to stop for 5 mins.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney So in the real world, with real human bladders, what we need is each of these stops to have chargers. Range will outlast the toilet/food craving!
FOUR HOURS is a young man's endurance territory? Seriously?
Just learned that I'm no longer considered young man, JK. I love drinking coffee on highway, that usually means stop every 1.5hrs
You should check your prostate man. 12 hours is young mans territory. I easily sleep 8 hours not needing to pee and I'm 40. Nothing special about me.
Using prostate issues to convince people that they don't need more range is overused, and it's not working. It's not cute either.. There's already more supply than demand for these as second cars for commutes and cool factor. But the people who don't have the luxury of multiple cars, that range matters. And honestly the whole point was to save money. Easy to save money when you aren't going anywhere. The best option is Model S LR but that's still $60k for a car with 30k miles and 2 years old. And that car barely meets the needs of someone living in Vegas wanting to go camping on the weekends in say Archs National Park. Few charging spots out there means you need to ne able to drive 100 miles away from a charger to the park. Then limit driving so you still have range to get back to the charger. BLM campsites don't have power outlets...
Great information,! I just ordered a Model 3 Long Range yesterday . I also live in North Jersey so I can relate to the driving you showed. Thank You!
Excellent job as always, Tom. I own exactly the same car and that is good to know as I am always asked that question.
Great tst and summary. Thank you for putting this together.
Great review. Clear, unbiased. Had been wondering about the range at 70 mph for my 2021 model 3 LR and here is the answer! Regarding the effect of wind, my guess is that a head wind of 10 mph would be equivalent to increasing the driving speed by the same amount, so a 50 mi hit in range might be expect under those circumstances. If the wind is at an angle you would only consider the component of the wind velocity directly opposite to the motion of the car.
COS (theta), where “theta” is the angle between the direction of the car and that of the wind……. Cheers!
It's a loop. Wind shouldn't have an effect. Tesla overstates their range estimates if you own one. Especially on the 2021 LR model because range totals are more advantageous with a 5 cycle EPA test cycle and having a heatpump.
That's reassuring, many thanks for doing that. My first road trip is coming up and I was worried about what kind of range to expect going that fast on the highway. It's only about 100 miles each way but I'm a noob at EV's haha! Thanks again!
Great stuff Tom….my only head scratcher is I can’t believe out of all the 70 mph hwy tests I’ve watched of yours, this is the first one that actually ran into traffic! I can’t imagine traffic got that much better since I lived in NY…LOL!
I try to do it when I have the best chance of not hitting too much traffic. Also, I did most of the 70 mph range tests in the past year and traffic was lighter due to fewer people driving during COVID.
Excellent real world test. Thanks.
Excellent video. Concise and to the point.
Hi, Tom! I remember reading through your blogs about the Mini-E and the Active E on the web. I never realized that you had your own TH-cam channel until a couple days ago. Glad to see you're still stirring the conversation about EVs. I've got some binge-watching to do.
Wow, you're an early adopter for sure if you remember those! Thanks for the loyal support!
Tom is a good communicator with a history of good shows. That said, the 70-mph dimension doesn't matter much to me. We do mostly local driving. I can imagine that it's important for others.
Thanks, Tom!
Great review 👍
310miles or 498km !! 70 m/h or 112 km/h- more than enough for me . SOLD.
you are a brave man driving the speed limit on the turnpike! great review, so much better at the big picture than many car reviewers!
Thanks!
Thank you. That was great!
Nice video ! New range king ! Efficiency king is still the 2020 Ioniq, 4.5 mi/kWh, tested by Tom himself.
A semi range test would also be nice, where an EV would be driven from 70% to 20% and the distance driven would be multiplied by 2 to get the approximate range. Sure that is extrapolation, but it saves time and electricity, especially when those 517 mile EVs arrive.
Nice one Tom, I love your channel. Do you think that wind would have brought the number a little higher?
If there were no wind, yeah, probably a few more miles.
Thanks for another informative video, Tom. Would you consider another test of the Setec CCS adapter on several different system chargers. There are likely several thousand Tesla owners holding off purchasing one until after the dependability stops being a crap shoot.
Thanks, yes I will do another SETEC video, I just have to make the time and I have some other videos in the queue first.
Nice video Tom! I would loan you my Model Y Standard Range, but Tesla stopped making them already.
Nice. 4.3 miles per kilowatt is impressive. Please do one for a range mile test from LA to Las Vegas. Normal driving condition, where you cruise at 75-80 mph on the slow lane, but often have to accelerate into the fast lane to pass the slow moving vehicles. The terrains is also have varying altitude.
You know you don't have to participate in the road rage/LA Vegas mad friday night dash. I've driven several trips in a plaid with aero 19" wheels from NW vegas (centennial area) to Universal Studios. Used about 80% Vegas to LA. 84% LA to Vegas. I've driven several friday nights from LA to vegas and I maintain 70mph and traffic out of the valley is great for regen. If your time is a problem get a gas car. The M3LR isn't a non stop car for that trip. Hell I was pushing it trying for a trip with more than 70% let allone 80% estimated range requirement. Key is learning how to be patient and less aggressive with your driving style. Just because most people drive that way doesn't mean you have to. You can drive however you like. But remember, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Nice video ! BTW you have video about your charge habits with your model 3 ? Thank you.
Not yet.
Thanks Tom. Always love your format and consistency. The 2021 has a heat pump (should not make a diff in warm conditions?) and I believe a larger pack (82 kwh vs 75 kwh before). The diff seems to be due to the extra 4 kwh that was used during this test (72 kwh vs 68 kwh before). That would mean the buffer is even bigger now? Did you notice any diff in charging time and specifically in how long you were charging at peak rates? I hope to get a MS LR later this year and you would be welcome to test it. I will let you know if/when I do unless you already got a test model. Thanks again!!
My car doesn't have an 82 kWh pack. When the 2021 Model 3 launched, most (including me) believed that Tesla was putting 82 kWh packs in all new 2021 Model 3s, but now we know that not the case. They were only using the 82 kWh pack for Performance Model 3's. The latest news is that Tesla will start using the 82 kWh pack in all Model 3s starting very soon (all we know is Q2 2021). The difference is most likely due to my 2019 Model 3 having lost capacity because it was a year old and also the fact that I drive 5 miles past zero in this new test.
Nice to see some "real-world" testing. Here in Florida, the first thing I would do is get the windows tinted., which would allow for a higher A/C setting. The model 3 is on my wish-list for when I win the lottery.
Great test. I wish you could do an 80 or 85 MPH test for those of us who live in areas with faster highways. Going 70 around here is right lane material.Of course that's not really practical as one must then contend with exit/entrance merge traffic constantly.
70 is Rt lane speed in Northern NJ too lol
Hey Tom. Great video. How much difference do you think the heat pump will make in the winter? That's the principal advantage I see between your older and now this new Model 3. My experience with my Standard Range Plus with the resistive element heater is that I can take a big range hit when it's cold. Keep up the great work!!!
It does make a considerable difference. I had a 2019 with the resistive heating system and sold it and bought the 2021 with the heat pump. I didn't do a comprehensive test, but I can say for sure it was more efficient in the colder months.
Great Test Tom , Hopefully, you will be the first person to test the range of the Mercedes EQS(Range 770km-480miles)
in the same condition (70mph and A/C on)
Very good range. Tesla is still the best range EV.
Very useful info , let’s say you didn’t use air conditioning , how many miles more you can get ?
I usually don't like gray cars, but the matte gray looks sharp!
Great video. Any chance doing a range test for 2021 refreshed Model Y?
Yes. I should have it in about 3 weeks
Very nice
Use Auto ac, continuous fan forces ac pump to run more often. Good test Tom. Do you check all cars speedometer accuracy or was this a first? I actually can't remember from your other videos even though I watch most twice lol. General consensus seems to be that speedometer is generally out by 1mph at 70 on Tesla's and that all vehicles vary in general but it is a good thing to check for sure.
Glad to see you acknowledging the bottom buffer, it seems to be around 30 miles remaining once you hit 0 and thats how the epa tests are performed, until the car stops.
Excited for the charging test assuming that is coming?
Charging video 0-100% coming up next. Yes, I always check the speedometer to GPS and mention it in each video.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Awesome! Eagerly waiting. Figured I probably missed it in the others but it's worth testing.
I'm excited for the charging video because I've heard rumors that new packs are charging slower in new cars due to a chemistry change. I think it might just be performance cars though. Even if they are charging slower I think it will just be while tesla gathers data on the new packs. The long range car was limited to 150kW until V3 was out and although that was mostly because V3 wasn't ready I do believe it allowed them to ensure the batteries were holding up before cranking it to 250kW. With SR+ cars they were actually limited to 100kW for the first bit, I think tesla was just making sure the smaller pack didn't have any weak points cooling wise and playing it safe, later on it was enabled to 180kW.
Tom, thanks! I lived in NJ until 1995 and I remember 55 mph as the speed limit. I bet at 55 mph you’d get the EPA range.
He'd get it at 65 because aerodynamic drag is an expontial increase in drag, not linear. 6% slower could easily be 15% less drag.
Also bottom buffer is about 30 miles, had he drove it right down it would of also hit 330, thats how the epa tests.
Yes, you likely would. But even where the speed limit is 55mph, very few, if any vehicles are driving at that speed.
@@larryspiller15 Bottom buffer varies; Edmunds showed the car doesn't always give the same range after 0%, making it risky to assume how much range you may have remaining. If Tesla wanted people dipping into this range, they wouldn't have been so conservative in setting the 0% mark.
As to EPA... it's interesting that IEVs has started using the EPA _ highway _ range instead of the combined range, but most OEMs still advertise only their combined range on their sites, which many people may confuse as being the highway range that they'll get on long trips. Why companies aren't stating their city / highway / combined ranges like they do with MPG is anyone's guess. Probably because media has confused people into believe they need all the range they get for the car to be capable of road tripping, so showing the lower highway EPA rating may turn people off. Just a guess.
Let's see that Lucid Air & Model S Plaid shootout when they come out.
Great video. With 4 people in the Model 3, avg. total weight of 800 lbs including suite cases and with the ac on blast at 70f. Outside temp of 100f and driving at 70mph would the range be 180 to 200 miles? We need real world family test driving. My 2013 Toyota Avalon limited gives me 30 mpg on highway speed with the condition listed above. I understand that city driving is better but every once in a while we have to travel and would love to know what to expect while traveling with the family.
Tom: Great as usual. Why did you choose the Model 3 over the Y for your personal car?
I didn't need the extra space the Y provides and I like how the 3 looks better.
Good to know.
Tom! Wow 👍 you do the best range test so much more accurate than anyone else!
Also the fact I use the same highways too lol that is awesome 305miles to 0% with large buffer under 0% very impressive,
So your setup is 2021 LR with 19” aero-wheels/cover on correct? Nice 👍 ..
I never tried doing just 70mph in my 2017 M3 but it was always good for 250miles with mix driving daily going to/from work
and basic local driving each week, I would only charge up once per-week .. the model 3 is a nice daily driver ...
BTW going at 60-65MPH range test and you should be able to hit the EPA ..
Yes, that's my current setup. Yeah, I think if you drove 60 mph in the same conditions you'd be able to exceed the EPA highway range.
Would love to see the standard plus. I order one 2 weeks ago
I have the 2020 model y DM long range with the acceleration boost and just love it.
Waiting on my cybertruck tri-motor. Wonder how the 500 mile range is going to do, if I get 380-400 I'll be a happy camper.
Excellent results, Tom !
It should give you at least additional 10 miles in that buffer.
Taking into account the 10mph wind and a 68F AC, it could easily reach the EPA.
EPA average speed on highway is much lower than 70mph ...
BTW, the new 82kWh battery should give you additional 20 miles.
The buffer is not included in the indicated range. if you own a model 3 you can see that you drive from 353 indicated miles of range down to 0. Moreover, it's a loop. Wind shouldn't have an effect. Tesla overstates their range estimates if you own one. Especially on the 2021 LR model because range totals are more advantageous with a 5 cycle EPA test cycle and having a heatpump.
@@lespaulranger Tesla does not overstate their EPA numbers.
EPA numbers do not match with 70mph highway speed, as the average speed is much lower.
With Model 3 SR+, I was able to pass the EPA in NYS highway speed, which on average, the speed was 55-65mph.
Other OEMs have less efficiency on variable speeds, as their energy recuperation and acceleration are less impressive than Tesla.
@@asaftzadok6647 Overstating is wrong. Apologies. I mean they are optimizing the car for the EPA test and do not derate their cars as much as other OEMs.
@@asaftzadok6647 I've had my 2021 Model 3 LR for 10k miles now. My lifetime consumption is 290 wh/mile, which is about 70% of EPA rating. I haven't seen EPA numbers on any kind of drive: backroads, city, stop and go, interstate, etc.
@@lespaulranger My SR+ had an average of 219Wh/mile, mostly driven in NYS parkways and in Westchester county.
I mostly used seats heater in winter and AC in summer.
Other OEMs do not derate their numbers as much as you think, on mixed driving and starting with cold battery with no battery preconditioning you will see how their mileage drop.
My unproven theory is that current 2170 cells have high resistance on high sustainable current needed for 70mph cruising, hence the efficiency drop.
This will get solved when moving to 4680 tabless design, other OEMs are using pouch cells which have lower resistance in highway speeds.
Hi Tom! GREAT video!! Question have you ever done a range test on a M3 SR+? I currently have a M3 sr+ purchased in Sept 20202. I would be VERY interested on what you found( if you did it) or what you will find ( if its in the works)! Thanks
No, I haven't. I'm looking for someone in the NJ area to loan me one for the test.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney damn wish I loved there.. Although I do have family up there BUT none have Teslas! If by any chance come dwn to s.fl..i will be more than happy to loan you mine:)
@@darknight2628 We'll see. I don't have any current plans to, but you never know. Thanks for the offer.
Nice
Yo wutttt. 145Wh/km at 70mph. That is madddd🤯
What color is this? MSM with a stealth ppf? if so where did you get yours done, I'm in jersey as well.
Can you do the same test with the new performance model 3?
Well, it would be interesting to see,what is the range with elevation changes of few hundreds meters,up and down.
Great video Tom. What was the elevation change from start to finish? I think Tesla needs to add more v3 superchargers on the 10, 40 and 70 highways from west to east coast. Lacking there.
I ended at the same supercharger I started at. The entire course had little elevation change and I drive in long loops for all of the tests.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney nice. Enjoyed it.
Thanks Tom. It is interesting that you had same wh/mile numbers for both the 2019 and 2021 model range tests. So what made the '21 drive 15 miles more than the '19 ? Was it change in weight, temperature, wind, or change in battery capacity or buffer between the two models?
I am hoping to find out what efficiency is added by the heat pump. I hope you can do a colder weather test with the two cars in tandem so they are in identical conditions.
The 2019 was a year old and had ~15K on it so I already lost about 2 kWh from normal capacity loss. That's good for 8-10 miles alone. Plus, I drove 5 miles past zero this time, and I didn't do that with the 2019.
Tesla was able to get lower consumption figures going through the 5 cycle EPA range test due to the benefits of the heatpump.
How much loss in range should one expect- approximately- in northeast winter driving (at 70mph)? 20%, 30%? Thanks for the great channel!
What temperature? 30 degrees? 5 degrees? It makes a difference. It could be as much as 30% in the worst conditions, bitter cold, wind, snow-covered roads.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney sorry - I should have clarified. I’m thinking a typically cold New England day - maybe temps in the 20s-30s. Just trying to get a sense of much range degradation to expect (approximately). I have a 200 mile commute a few days a week and am trying to figure out best EV options. Thanks again!
Does your M3 have any kind of paint protection film on it?
hey what did you wrap your car with and what color was it before
Will you be doing another test with the Tesla M3 LR? I was told by a Tesla salesman it is LFP.
Crazy how much more expensive a Model 3 is now. An AWD after sales tax is $61,770 in my state. That's insane!
Hi Tom.. i own a bmw i3 and I love it but i’m looking for more range, looking to purchase a model 3. Not sure if I should get a standard or long range but should I wait to purchase after the new year in 2022? Will there be a new battery design? thanks! Dan
No. We don't expect a battery redesign for the Model 3 for a while.
Kind of surprised how little videos there is of the M3 LR being range tested. It's either the performance or the SR.
My 2019 - AWD - Long range tesla shows 29kWh / 50% battery used and 100 miles driven on one straight drive after full charge .. and it is 75kWh battery - how do i prove to tesla there is issue with my car ?
I appreciate your video's and thank you for doing this..
I am having range issues - 100% charge only shows 250 miles on dashboard and Another experiment - one straight drive from Nanuet to Harrisburg PA - 178 miles (65 degrees) - when i reached 23 miles left showed on dashboard - pretty scary...This issue started with one tire charge due to puncture in Nov 2020 by Tesla (before it was fine and was showing 298 on dashboard also) .any tip you can give to establish there is issue here ? to Tesla ? It feels like part of battery is broken or disconnected..
I assume that you measured miles on the odometer rather than the 'miles' registered by the battery.
Hi, good review, can you address if the 2021 model 3 has a larger battery pack, I think I saw the paper work on german deliveries showing
the size of the pack had increased. This would account for the range, not the heat pump using aircon. Last week on a trip to Mammoth from Utah in a June 2019 Awd model 3 with 19” wheels I got 271 miles 75Kwh 277 wh/mi. Wind, elevation change, temperature change and the size of the wheels, plus some fast overtaking and variable speed limits from 65-80 mph all add to the mix. However in real wolrld driving I wanted a break every 2 hours so I just hopped between superchargers every 1-2 hours.
In 12 hours driving with several breaks I did 710 miles using 210 kWh 295 Wh/mi . My previous SUV did 22mpg and I would fill up at half full after covering a similar amount of miles so no real difference to me on road trips with the Tesla.
German here.
The new vehicles have a 82 kWh battery pack, of which are around 80 kWh usable. But these vehicles will be delivered no earlier than May (in Germany). The US probably will get those earlier. To my knowledge EPA 353 mi was tested with 79 kWh pack, so the new one should do even more. For reference, WLTP increased from 580 km to 614 km. The baseline 580 km was likely tested with the 77 kWh LG battery, so the 79 kWh battery probably already had around 600 km. Therefore the 82kWh vehicle should get around 10 miles more.
The test here is likely with a 79 kWh battery pack, which is the same size as previous Model 3 LRs.
There is also a 77 kWh battery pack from LG, but to my knowledge this is not sold in the US.
Also because of that, Tesla software limited the 79kWh battery pack to 77kWh for German customers, so it is balanced with the LG pack.
Tom's car has the same battery capacity as a 2019 LR.
I have 85 miles commute. I have charging port in my apt, Is it worth it to upgrade to LR from SR+? Just ordered the SR+, but not sure yet.
Good content. I would expect 2021 Model 3 to fare worse relative to EPA rating than prior years because the heat pump increases EPA rated range on 5 cycle test, but doesn't help real world range in warm weather.
Where do you find EPA highway range data? I can't only find combined range.
It's not easy. You have to really dig for it. We have a person at InsideEVs that does the research.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I guess they find the documents submitted to the EPA? They really should put city and highway range on the Monroney sticker.
@@pepstein in the EPA documents, with capacity tested and all the good stuff. Contrary to what Tom said - it is very easy, the epa.gov site is publicly available and you can google it.
@@marcusbiller867 thanks - will definitely check them out.
@@marcusbiller867 I downloaded a CSV file from fueleconomy.gov/feg/download.shtml that has city, highway, and combined EPA range for every EV sold in the US. Thanks again for your tip.
Hey Tom! So I heard you're in NJ, and I'm getting a model 3 delivered (hopefully, lol)within the month. I noticed you don't have a front license plate on your car. I don't want to attach one to my car because of aerodynamics and aesthetics. Have you ever gotten stopped in the state for not having a front license plate? In other words, is it worth the risk?
Never been stopped or ticketed. And I've been driving without a front license plate in Jersey for many years.
Would love to have you do a video on the Tesla Model 3 with LFP battery. I am totaly confused about how to charge-- Charge everyday to 100% seems to be what is recommended, but what if you sometimes don't drive for 2-3 days? Is it detrimental to the battery's degradation to have it sit at 100% for a period of time? or can anyone even answer this with any degree of confidence?
Interesting ...comparing screen shots of the 2019 test & 2021; same wh/m at 234. But the KWH used numbers were quite different (68 in 2019 vs 73 in 2021). I know the numbers aren't exact & you drove past 0% this time. Not sure how accurate the car is in reporting some of these figures. Curious how many miles on your 2019 when you did the test vs your 2021 as far as degradation goes. Despite all of those numbers (which can sometimes make my brain hurt) you ended up with a better result. Thanks for doing these - great info!
the new model 3 has a bigger battery - not mentioned in the review
@@paulprice6799 We don't know that for certain, and if so how much bigger? The 2021 Performance Model 3 does have an 82 kWh battery (we originally thought all 2021's would, but it turned out only the Performance versions do) It has a 78 kWh pack, which some reported that previous model years also had.
Probably his 2019 didn't calibrate the BMS. Happens in the 3 when you don't charge properly and leave sentry mode very often.
@@marcusbiller867 On the days before the tests, I drove it down close to zero and charged up to 100%. I did that twice in the week before the test.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney the 2019 or 2021? 0-100-0 - that doesn't do anything to the battery. The BMS on Tesla works differently - you have to leave the car unplugged and off (no sentry) at different state of charges over a couple of weeks to a month. Then you can gain back some of the messed up BMS. Basically the best way to screw up your BMS is to charge it high (60%/80%), never let it down during regular charges and have sentry mode running most of the time. This will kill the BMS.
We have a 2020 M3 SRP and a 2021 MY LR. We do a few long trip a year. Plus we live in Atl and have a home in Florida so e drive 5-6 hours once a month. My question is does it REALLY make a difference for arrival time to
Drive below 70 for 400-500 miles and arrive EARLIER to your destination or just drive like I normally would??? Most of my Tesla friends swear you will arrive quicker even with charging if you stay below 70mph. I generally charge to 90-95% each stop then just drive.
Hey Tom! Any chance you can get a hold of the Mach E Route 1 edition that Ford's says it can go over 300 miles of range to do the 70mph test 👍
I don't have that scheduled yet. My friend Kyle COnner from Out Of Spec Motoring has one scheduled for next month and he's going to do a 70-mph range test.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Sounds good 👍
Great video!
some of the 23 miles short of EPA range could be still embedded in the 0% SOC for your car by Tesla........
It definitely is but I don't expect him to actually drive it all the way down either.
Not 23 miles. But around 10 or so
@@marcusbiller867 "The two Model 3 variants drove the longest with an indicated zero miles of range. The Long Range kept going for 25.9 miles, while the Standard Range Plus went 17.6 miles past the point where its indicated range dropped to zero." -Green car reports.
@@larryspiller15 not at these speeds my dude. The buffer is exactly 3.5kWh. At 234Wh/m that is exactly 15 miles. So 5 miles he drove +10 I predicted. You can obviously get 50 miles out of the buffer, if only you can find a very long hill (ask Trevor Milton of one Nikola to show you that hill)
@@marcusbiller867 where did you find an exact buffer?
Where I live 55mph is for highways and 70mph is interstate.
test the current model s long range plus
What type of charger did you use to bring it back to full and how long did it take. I have a level 2 charger at home.Thanks
I did a V3 supercharger test right after this 0-100% in 63 minutes: th-cam.com/video/zwDI7moHvzg/w-d-xo.html
Try to get your hands on one of the 2020 model S long range plus and do the test. It will easily beat similar sized packs in Taycan, etc. It will just show how much Tesla cars are more efficient than the competitors.
Better 2021 S LR. It has bigger battery
Can you do city drive please
Nice video. Tesla never seems to meet their numbers.
Just the same as most other manufacturers. Real world figures hardly ever match manufacturers test figures
How many issues did it have when you accepted delivery of the new car? Body gaps and alignment issues?
Two. The reach hatch and the passenger's side front door both had to be adjusted. Tesla service did it and they are perfect now.
need your advice, i drive between 130 to 160 miles per day , a mix of city, country and freeway driving, should i buy a model 3 rwd standard range or a long range awd? thank you for your help
The RWD standard range will be fine for your daily needs as long as you can charge daily at home. It should always always do 160 miles, even in the winter when the driving range is less.
I know it's probably a very arbitrary figure, but having a matt finish rather than gloss must have a small effect on the drag co-efficient and reduce range a little?
I wouldn't think so. It feels as smooth as waxed paint.
How about doing the 2022 M3 SR+ (or do they call is RWD)
Is that the paint it comes with as an option? Or you had it custom painted
It's a $5000 3m wrap
Sooo i have been looking for videos like these because i bought a 2018 Model 3 Long Range but im getting less than 200 miles!! Is that a serious problem or what? I live in Los Angeles. And there are 20” wheels on the car. No roof rack or anything external. Why am I getting such poor mileage? Please help!!
The glass roof is terrible for heat gain, requiring a lot of A/C energy use. Wrapping my white Model Y's roof here in San Diego has made a night and day difference in solar gain, with *much* less use of the A/C.
Yes, here in Florida a glass top with no shade would be suicidal.
Interesting. I’m in NJ and I have a 2019 Model 3. I didn’t feel the need for a shade or tinting last summer, albeit it bakes when it’s parked. We’ll see this summer.
@@petebremy49 The sun in the southwest is very intense (southern latitudes and dry air). I moved here from the east coast and was shocked. Even with ambient temps in the 60s, you need to run A/C if windows are mostly up. Everyone tints their windows; I have 3M Crystalline-pricey but worth it.
When was this LR built? The new ones coming out this Q2 or next will have even bigger batteries and more range. You will be able to get about 15-20 miles more. Test them in September or late Q3.
November 2020. I don't have the larger battery.
Where did you get the information that they will have a bigger battery pack?
@@tommyvercetti7854 EPA documents and the first one are already delivered in Europe. Any Model 3 LR produced after 1 April has bigger battery, heated steering and new trim
teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/master-thread-2021-model-3-charge-data-battery-discussion-etc.214484/page-65
@@marcusbiller867 Ok I see. So, both Performance and Long Range now have 82 kWh packs it seems!
@@tommyvercetti7854 not yet ALL. There are still some LR with the old batteries in circulation. But soon. I guess as soon as Tesla announces the added range on their website, the bigger battery is there.
Being a long time Model 3 owner, do you think Tesla released some of their buffer after some time on their previous version? I’d be curious to know how many kWh you used for that 100-0% run.
Nvm I see you used 73kWh. So maybe they have a 9kWh buffer based on recent rumors ?
@@Hellfer14 I don't think it has an 82 kWh battery, I believe that's only for the Performance version. I think this has a 78 kWh total capacity pack.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Interesting
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney the new ones coming now are with the new bigger battery.
So given that the consumption was the same as your 2019, is the available battery larger in the new M3? 16 miles [305-289=16] would require 3.75 additional kWhs at 234 kWh per mile.
Yup.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Responsive but not helpful. Yup my math was correct or yup the newer Tesla battery is ___ kWhs and the 2019 is ___.
@@jeffg9612 Yup the math is right. It's difficult to say exactly if the battery is larger for 2021. Initial reports were that is was now 82 kWh, but then it was confirmed that was only for the performance version, which this isn't. We believe it has a 78 kWh pack (Tesla won't release its battery information as most other OEMs do), as the previous years did. But It's really hard to know for sure since Tesla won't release the official capacity.
No, he probably didn't utilize the buffer last time. Capacity is the same. The bigger batteries are just coming out now for the LR
How do compare the build quality and feel of the 2021 over the 2019?
I don't see any difference.
If the Model 3 and Y came with ventilated seats, you could save even more range without having to run the AC.
Tesla really needs to add ventilated seats already...
Wow I've never seen that low Wh/mi in my car. At a constant 70 the lowest I've seen is I think in the upper 260s. I usually average 300 or over. I may do a 70 mph test on my own car just for fun I feel like it would be much worse. (It is very windy here)
Just replicate the setting they used and you should be able to achieve similar results. Make sure to make a round trip to counter the wind, etc
What color is your car? Is it a wrap?
Yes, it's a wrap. 3M Satin Gray.
Please do with standard range
I will if I can get one to use.
300-mile range @ 70 mph isn't bad at all
Efficiency is important to me and that is why I am waiting for the Aptera!
lol
I like to see 2021 Model Y long range w 19"wheels and CHILL MODE on then see how far it can go on 70mph 👍
I'll be doing that test soon.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Can't wait to see the video 👍. Thanks Tom!!
Chill mode doesn't do anything at AP speeds, only acceleration. You will get about 5-10% less range, give or take. But the newer Ys will come with the bigger battery soon, so 300 miles.
@@marcusbiller867 Your wrong! I have a 2018 Long Range model 3 rear wheel drive and I'm getting better efficiency on road trip using the CHILL MODE while using EAP compare to using STANDARD MODE.
@@rj8u I am? Mine what? So you took two identical 2018 cars, same tires, same battery SOC and drove them at the same time, one after the other, with keeping exact distance, one in Chill mode and one in standard mode, with EAP and tested it and came to that conclusion? Because if you didn't, "your" wrong...
Is nice that you and others are doing these range tests. EPA range tests are unreliable. I’m much more important to have an accurate range estimate on a BEV versus an ICE vehicle. When driving long distances I estimate my range as 3 miles for each percent of battery remaining of my Tesla 3. This is way better than the 2.5 miles I can expect on my MME
310 with AC on the highway. Done deal for me
:)
1:56: Why do you think its Tesla's speedometer that is slightly fast as opposed to your GPS being slightly slow? I would have thought that out of the two the car would have the more accurate data upon which to calculate your speed.
I use two different GPS apps to test the speedometer of all the cars I di the range tests on. The two different apps are always in sync. Many others have also noted the speedometers are off also. That's not uncommon.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Very interesting! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I like it. But why not just use Auto for AC?
I could have but honestly, it wouldn't have made a difference. A certain amount of energy is needed to maintain a comfortable environment in the cabin, it really doesn't matter which setting it was on. I was keeping the temperature right on the edge of me being comfortable/uncomfortable.
You say you were short 24 miles of Tesla's EPA range, but you had the A/C on. That's a bit unfair, is it not? When you did the other mileage range tests, did you have the heat or A/C on?
Also, what speed is the EPA highway range tested at? I doubt it's tested at 70mph, which means you are comparing apples to oranges when you say you are short 24 miles from Tesla's EPA range
I always note the temperature and if I'm using the heat or A/C. I can' control when I get access to the cars on press loans, so the temperature isn't always the same. I make sure I explain that in the videos. No, it's not perfect or fair to each car, but I do explain that.